Breaking Bad

[KnoxHarrington]

Everything that was said about this show today, from Bryan Cranston down to the callers, is right on the money. This show kicks all kind of ass. If you missed the first episode, it's on AMC's On Demand service now.

What I love about this show is its pitch-black sense of humor, which leavens what could be some brutal drama (and will be) with smart humor. Bryan Cranston's performance is incredible, the supporting cast is great, and the writing and direction are spot-on.

Very, very highly recommended.

[OGC]

It is repeating at 10 pm and midnight tonight also

[smiler grogan]

I definetely digged the show. I got the impression that they were going for an HBO type channel since they blurred out some titties and edited some swearing.

[Slumbag]

I really wanted to catch this show, but I have to work Sunday nights. Are there any other replays throughout the week?

[KnoxHarrington]

It's on now. And less than a minute in, you get to see Malcolm's dad's bare ass in all its glory. Hot. 50 year old man ass is some prime batch material, let me tell you.

It's on again tomorrow night at 11 if you miss this showing, though if you have digital cable with VOD, you might want to see if you have AMC on Demand.

[KnoxHarrington]

Another post, 15 minutes in: damn, this show is far riskier and even darker than a lot of the new stuff HBO is showing these days (which seems to be pretty much, "Hey, let's do another show about therapy.")

[Dan G]

I don't know if this is the norm, but my cable company (Insight) has an InDemand page specifically for Breaking Bad. Actually they have 2, one for HD and the other for regular TV. I gotta wait for Mondays to watch the HD version, so I have to try and avoid the spoilers.

[jeoyramone]

Thanks to the great interview with the actor that played Tim Watley I watched the first two episodes and the show, and his acting, is awesome. I can't imagine how they can keep up this pace but I hope they can and the writers strike didn't derail the filming. If you missed this you should definitely check it out on AMC:

Thursday
January 31, 2008
10:30 PM

Friday
February 01, 2008
2:00 AM

Sunday
February 03, 2008
10:00 PM

Sunday
February 03, 2008
11:00 PM

Monday
February 04, 2008
1:00 AM

Monday
February 04, 2008
2:00 AM

Thursday
February 07, 2008
11:00 PM

[Dan G]

I checked out AMC's site and they have a full list of cable providers that offer Breaking Bad in HD.

http://blog.amctv.com/breaking-bad/2008/01/breaking-bad-on.php

[Dan G]

dp

[NortonRules]

I enjoy the show very much. He was cool on R&F, too.

[foodcourtdruide]

I thought Bryan Cranston was AWESOME on R&F, looking forward to finally catching this show.

[LordJezo]

Got around to watching the first episode, it was awesome.

The main dude looks almost exactly like my dad, that made it both disturbing and all the more funny at the same time.

[celery]

I just watched the fifth episode, and boy is this show fantastic.

Brian Cranston is great as Walt, but I expected that. The big surprise is his partner Jesse who we're realizing is more than just a meth-head, but a multi-layered sympathetic character. Walter and Jesse still can't stand each other, but I can't wait to see how their bond develops over time.

I've heard so little about Breaking Bad - is anyone else watching it?

[sailor]

i don't know how regular it will be, but i saw the first two episodes unedited on ifc a few days ago. i enjoyed it, but wouldn't want to watch the edited version on amc. ugh. might have to wait for a box set to come out down the road.

[Stedman]

I'm watching them too. I really really like this show.

At first i hoped that they'd stay away from Jesse and not try to tell his story because i couldn't stand the way the talked and was constantly being a wigger.

i agree with you now though, i'm almost just as interested to see what happens to him as i am with walt.

I think my favorite aspect of the show right now is the brother-in-law's relationship with Walter Jr.

[donnie_darko]

i've met a lot of wiggers, never met one who scream talks.
wtf

loving the show though, i just hope this slow start doesn't kill em.... i hope they're safely assuming it'll be on a few years.

[Stedman]

not me man, i dont want to watch a show with such an obvious ending for more than 3 seasons. 2 is ok, but i'd really like to see them end at the 2nd season finale.

i think the show is great now but i dont want to keep watching it after they've run out of good original ideas.

[lleeder]

Got around to watching the first episode, it was awesome.

The main dude looks almost exactly like my dad, that made it both disturbing and all the more funny at the same time.

Don't worry he's not your dad. He never molests his son.

[riverofpiss]

not me man, i dont want to watch a show with such an obvious ending for more than 3 seasons. 2 is ok, but i'd really like to see them end at the 2nd season finale.

i think the show is great now but i dont want to keep watching it after they've run out of good original ideas.

Everything that is really good doesn't have to last forever.

[KnoxHarrington]

I really like that the last couple of shows have slowed the pace down and sort of dealt with Walter's family. The show just couldn't continue at that crazy pace it had the first three episodes.

But things are going to pick up again, I think.

[frye hole]

Its painful to watch but I can't stop! Been catching up on the On Demand shows ....

[LordJezo]

Finally got all caught up on this show and loved every episode. It's a shame that it's on AMC though, it feels buried in a place on the dial that no one will ever find. It's a great show.


Anyone know when new shows are coming?

[celery]

Finally got all caught up on this show and loved every episode. It's a shame that it's on AMC though, it feels buried in a place on the dial that no one will ever find. It's a great show.


Anyone know when new shows are coming?

Season 2 will be starting March 8th, with Bob Odenkirk as a new character.

The show is fucking great.


"Walt and Jesse upgrade their cooking process, pile up the fat stacks, and build their street cred," creator Vince Gilligan told the magazine, hinting that their move upwards in the drug trade will draw "unpleasant attention" from other drug cartels and endanger the life of Walt's DEA brother-in-law. As a result, Walt will get some legal advice from a Godfather-like consigliere, Saul Goodman (played by Mr. Show's Bob Odenkirk). "Saul hides behind that veneer of buffoonery," Gilligan explained, "but he's actually going to give Walt a lot of very sage advice."


http://blogs.amctv.com/breaking-bad/2009/01/entertainment-weekly-winter-tv-preview.php

[GreatAmericanZero]

Season 2 will be starting March 8th, with Bob Odenkirk as a new character.

The show is fucking great.



http://blogs.amctv.com/breaking-bad/2009/01/entertainment-weekly-winter-tv-preview.php

thanks alot! Bob Odenkirk is on the show now? That is so amazing its beyond words

[Serpico1103]

I like it. Glad they are keeping it up.

[realmenhatelife]

I just hope Odenkirk doesn't play it too over the top, which is the achilles heel of a lot of that gen x class of comedy.

[GreatAmericanZero]

all i want is for Bob Odenkirk to check out the batch of crystal meth that bryan cranston made and say "Great Job!"

[celery]

It's also cool that it'll be a full 13 episode season (the first was only 7)

[PD]

reminder, coming back soon-

and it is on AMC on demand, which is free on most cable systems.

[hammersavage]

Thanks PD. Just started watching ondemand today. 2 episodes in and I like it mucho.

[Chimee]

Friday night they're replaying all of the first season starting at 8. It's how I'm planning on getting into the show before season two starts.

[monkfish]

Friday night they're replaying all of the first season starting at 8. It's how I'm planning on getting into the show before season two starts.

Thanks man. Amazing show - I'd never have thought to watch it had it not been for the R&F Cranston interview.

[JimBeam]

I just started watching it On Deamnd and it's not bad.

A little slow at times and I don't care for the wife or son characters but other than that it's been entertaining.

The bits between the brother-in-law and his partner are pretty funny.

I haven't figured it out yet but is the BIL Walt's sister's husband or his wife's sister's husband ?

[Friday]

i am about halfway through on the 1st season and i can't stand the wife character.
so far... no redeeming value. maybe that will change.

but otherwise, i like it so far.

[PD]

i am about halfway through on the 1st season and i can't stand the wife character.
so far... no redeeming value. maybe that will change..

I agree that her character often is annoying- i do see a purpose though - to kind of represent his "normal" life before all of this.

Brian Cranston's character though is so dominant.

[JimBeam]

The BIL is awesome.

That awkward hug he gave Skyler when she was venting was funny.

[Enabler]

I love this show. So glad they're doing a second season. I even love the wife. She's foxy. I just wish Mr.White and Jesse weren't constantly yelling at each other. In nearly every scene they're in, one of them flies of the handle on the other.

[JimBeam]

It's also cool that it'll be a full 13 episode season (the first was only 7)

Based on the previews I've seen it looks like it ends ths season.

[drusilla]

i'm 3 episodes in to the marathon from the other night. it's kind of slow so i didn't know how well i'd stick with it, but at the same time i can't seem to want to turn it off.

but i can not stand the wife or her sister.

[hammersavage]

The episodes were off of On Demand before. I'll have to find another way to watch it now.

[biozombie]

The DVD of Season 1 is sold out at every store I've been to in this town, and I can't find any of that blue glass Tuco's been slinging either....

[GreatAmericanZero]

i swear, this show is the most intense tv show or movie i have ever seen. I have to watch it standing up and occasionally pacing. I don't know if my heart can take watching this show

hopefully i can relax a bit now that Tuco is dead cuz it was too intense with that guy. it is brilliant but jeez

[drusilla]

i swear, this show is the most intense tv show or movie i have ever seen. I have to watch it standing up and occasionally pacing. I don't know if my heart can take watching this show




when the dea brought in tuco's uncle to scare jesse i was sooooo scared. i wanted to yell out "holy shit" but then i realized i was sitting in my apartment by myself. but then i couldn't help myself when his uncle shit himself. i almost fucking died. i was just sitting here cackling so loud.

i really wish i had someone to watch & freak out with

[Chimee]

Every scene that the uncle was in was very intense. Every time they showed his finger hovering over the bell, I was holding my breath waiting to see what would happen.

[angrymissy]

i swear, this show is the most intense tv show or movie i have ever seen. I have to watch it standing up and occasionally pacing. I don't know if my heart can take watching this show

hopefully i can relax a bit now that Tuco is dead cuz it was too intense with that guy. it is brilliant but jeez

The episode w/ Tuco and the old guy w/ the bell was fucking nerve wracking to watch.

[Jeffdc5]

that last episode was crazy i love this show i hope they keep it up

[hammersavage]

Thank god he fucked up that asshole with the blue tooth's car. I hated him almost as much as I hate his wife.

[drusilla]

catch up already!

[hammersavage]

Just watched episode 5. Boom!

[drusilla]

i fucking hate his wife so much

[Chimee]

I didn't like this episode as much as the past couple. The suspense wasn't as great as it had been and, to me, the show is at its best when you're sweating more and more with every passing moment.

[TheMojoPin]

I got the DVD set for season 1 this weekend and watched the whole thing in 2 days. I'll catch up wih the season 2 episodes with On Demand in the next day or so. Lovin' this show.

[hammersavage]

2 episodes into Season 2. Very intense stuff.

[TheMojoPin]

I'm finally all caught up with everything.

I love this show.

[Stankfoot]

Its so intense its almost painful to watch. Especially if you are older and have a family you feel for the guy trying to find a way to provide for his family when he's gone. I wouldn't cook meth but in a desperate situation like his its almost understandable.

[hammersavage]

Keep an eye on this chick, Pinkman.

[realmenhatelife]

Keep an eye on this chick, Pinkman.

I think they're just putting her in to raise the stakes for Jesse when stuff starts going wrong, right now Walt has much more risk and Jesse just stands to lose cash. Although if she turns out to be a meth head I'll be into it.

[Jujubees2]

Keep an eye on this chick, Pinkman.

Pinkman, I thought his last name was James... :thumbup:

[ONYONN]

Jessie Jackson Has A Girlfriend

[hammersavage]

I think they're just putting her in to raise the stakes for Jesse when stuff starts going wrong, right now Walt has much more risk and Jesse just stands to lose cash. Although if she turns out to be a meth head I'll be into it.

Fuck that'd be hot.

[drusilla]

i wasn't sure if i liked the brother in law too much, but he really grew on me. this last episode made me pretty happy to watch those douchebags he was working with get fucked up.

though i'm always sad when danny trejo gets it.

[TheMojoPin]

i wasn't sure if i liked the brother in law too much, but he really grew on me. this last episode made me pretty happy to watch those douchebags he was working with get fucked up.

though i'm always sad when danny trejo gets it.

Yeah, it sucks Trejo was gone so quick.

[drusilla]

oh & i loved how they opened the episode with a narcocorrido

[GreatAmericanZero]

i wasn't sure if i liked the brother in law too much, but he really grew on me. this last episode made me pretty happy to watch those douchebags he was working with get fucked up.

though i'm always sad when danny trejo gets it.

That whole sequence i was like "please don't end up being a dream" because it was so fucking awesome i couldnt believe it. And i thought they were adding Trejo has a series regular so to see him bite it out of no where really shocked me

I think its my favorite hourlong of all time. I'm way more into "Breaking Bad" than i ever have been into "Sopranos"

[lleeder]

I like how they made us feel for Hank. He went from being a cocky douche to a sympathetic figure. I can see Jesse having to kill Walt at the end of this series. He is becoming more and more power hungry. With next weeks previews its funny how the more they earn the more expenses they encounter.

[LordJezo]

Oh damn, AMC is streaming the videos now.

Season 2 online (http://www.amctv.com/videos/breaking-bad/?bcpid=9787693001&bclid=10178222001&bctid=17299524001)

This is great, I'll be watching there instead of downloading so I can show my support for stations putting all their stuff online and hopefully get more stuff on the net legally.

[JimBeam]

I've loved Hank from the beginning. Glad their giving him more of a character.

I think he's starting to suspect Walt though.

I can see Jesse having to kill Walt at the end of this series. He is becoming more and more power hungry.

I actually think Walt is more into this than Jesse.

The scenes w/ Jesse and the junkies' kid were really cool. Showed that he's not really a bad dude and just got caught up in somebad things.

The guy playing the lawyer had some pretty funny lines.

[Jujubees2]

Saul "Better Call Saul" Goodman is a great character and the Godfather reference was priceless. I loved Jesse explaining to Walt that we don't need a criminal lawyer, we need a CRIMINAL lawyer...

[realmenhatelife]

I really hope the series keeps up with 'meta' sequences like the music video and the saul goodman commercials. I also cant believe how much I liked Badger, and I was semi right about the girl being an addict.

Is Saul Goodman supposed to be a pun? If it is I'm very happy with them not spelling it out.

[Zipgun]

Is Saul Goodman supposed to be a pun? If it is I'm very happy with them not spelling it out.



I saw that immediately, so I would think it is. Really fucking clever. Also, Walt was wearing an Isotopes baseball hat. Homage to the Simpsons?

[JimBeam]

Is Saul Goodman supposed to be a pun?

Am I missing it ?

[The Ogre]

Saul Goodman = (it)s'all good man

[JimBeam]

Ahhhhhhhhh, that would be interesting if they planned it that way.

[Dan G]

Also, Walt was wearing an Isotopes baseball hat. Homage to the Simpsons?

The show takes place in Albuquerque, where the AAA Isotopes play. It's a real Minor League baseball team that did get it's name from The Simpsons.

[TheMojoPin]

Bob Odenkirk is a great addition to the show. Love his character.

[hammersavage]

Pinkman is seriously the greatest

[yojimbo7248]

Bob Odenkirk is a great addition to the show. Love his character.

Couldn't agree more. If it wasn't my favorite show before, it definitely is now with BO.

[xekrubx]

Ive heard nothing but great things about this show. Never watched it on tv but bought season 1 on dvd. Havent gotten around to watching it yet.

[Jujubees2]

This week's show seemed to drag a little but the ending with the showdown at the home improvement store was great.

[TheMojoPin]

Walt is really turning into a prick. It's really impressive how the show has turned characters like Hank and Jesse into such sympathetic characters while Walt's downward spiral fucks him up.

[TheMojoPin]

Yeah, things are not going to end well for Walt this season. God only knows who those two bodies (that they've been foreshadowing all season) by his pool are going to be.

Tonight's ending? Coldblooded. Walt has turned downright evil this season.

[GreatAmericanZero]

the show is really the best i've ever seen. if it was all a movie it would be one of the best movies i've ever seen. Next week is the season finale, I hope it doesn't last much longer because I want it to stay this perfect series....not long overstay its welcome when the creativity runs dry like so many other great shows

[thepaulo]

I'm in love with the girl.

[GreatAmericanZero]

I'm in love with the girl.

yeah...that chick was my "hottest on tv" girl, shes my type

but i am still so depressed from the ending of tonights episode, I just want to sit around in silence and think. Its really hard for me to get so emotionally involved with a tv show or movie too

[TheMojoPin]

the show is really the best i've ever seen. if it was all a movie it would be one of the best movies i've ever seen. Next week is the season finale, I hope it doesn't last much longer because I want it to stay this perfect series....not long overstay its welcome when the creativity runs dry like so many other great shows

Yeah, as much as I love the show I hope the creators have a plan a la The Wire in terms of this being finite show with a fully mapped story arc. I know they've changed things along the way (Jesse was originally going to die at the end of the first season).

I love the quality of actors they've gotten even for smaller roles. I just realized that Jane's dad is played by Q from ST:TNG and Giancarlo Esposito as the "careful" drug kingpin is great. I hope he shows up some more.

[paulisded]

I have this whole season dvr'd but haven't watched it yet...I think I may spend the day tomorrow watching them all.

[GreatAmericanZero]

I have this whole season dvr'd but haven't watched it yet...I think I may spend the day tomorrow watching them all.

most episodes are so intense that i end up watching them standing up on my feet (and sometimes pacing back and forth) because i get so nervous. So try not to take too much caffeine or anything else that will have your heart racing before you watch 'em

[TheMojoPin]

So what are the guesses as to the two bodybags by the pool? In the last couple weeks I was thinking it was going to be Jane and Jesse, but half of that equation is out of the picture now.

[joeyballsack]

So what are the guesses as to the two bodybags by the pool? In the last couple weeks I was thinking it was going to be Jane and Jesse, but half of that equation is out of the picture now.

In the episode where Walt was changing out the hot water heater, I was really thinking it was going to be an explosion because he had hooked something up wrong. I guess that could still be in play, but who knows with this show.

[Chimee]

I think someone is going to go after him and his family because of the website thing, but he isn't the one that ends up dead. I also think the pool alarm is going to play a role in the finale.

[TheMojoPin]

In the episode where Walt was changing out the hot water heater, I was really thinking it was going to be an explosion because he had hooked something up wrong. I guess that could still be in play, but who knows with this show.

Something along those lines would be a good guess since we've seen all the guys in what look like hazmat suits cleaning up and investigating the scene. Those guys made you think that it was some kind of meth lab explosion, but that doesn't make sense at Walt's house since none of that stuff is there.

[The Ogre]

After the Tortuga head explosion earlier this season I've given up trying to predict anything that happens. So those two bodies could be agents of the cartel, Hank, Walt Jr, or any other number of characters.

Also I think Walt hasn't really become an evil man this season. If he had truly put himself on a different path he would have shot Jane up with a fatal dosage from the syringe he found. As it stands he was only indirectly responsible for her death and had a truly emotional response to it, leaving him firmly in shades of gray. His actions still are based more in protecting his family than in any other motive.

[TheMojoPin]

After the Tortuga head explosion earlier this season I've given up trying to predict anything that happens. So those two bodies could be agents of the cartel, Hank, Walt Jr, or any other number of characters.

Also I think Walt hasn't really become an evil man this season. If he had truly put himself on a different path he would have shot Jane up with a fatal dosage from the syringe he found. As it stands he was only indirectly responsible for her death and had a truly emotional response to it, leaving him firmly in shades of gray. His actions still are based more in protecting his family than in any other motive.

True, but it's disconcerting how cavalier he's gotten about other people's lives. He seemed genuinely affected by Jane's death but he still let it happen, and remember how ready he seemed to be to have Badger killed. He also barely flinched when he found out how the guy that ripped off Jesse got killed, plus he basically sent Jesse there to fuck up or worse that guuy and his "skank." Yeah, he changed his mind on that after the fact, but we're seeing a steady slide of of Walt's morality. It was one thing when he killed Crazy 8: that happened only after he realized that he basically had to die to protect himself and his family. Jane didn't have to die.

[FatassTitePants]

After the Tortuga head explosion earlier this season I've given up trying to predict anything that happens. So those two bodies could be agents of the cartel, Hank, Walt Jr, or any other number of characters.

Also I think Walt hasn't really become an evil man this season. If he had truly put himself on a different path he would have shot Jane up with a fatal dosage from the syringe he found. As it stands he was only indirectly responsible for her death and had a truly emotional response to it, leaving him firmly in shades of gray. His actions still are based more in protecting his family than in any other motive.

I think that he is slowly turning away from protecting his family and turning into something else. He had the chance to change course when he got the new diagnosis after finding out the treatment was working, but he immediately went back to distributing the meth. Also, he seems to be getting sloppier. He left the phone on in the classroom and now there will be a police investigation into Jesse since Jane had the OD. Even though she was blackmailing him, why would he invite any situation that would bring law enforcement closer to him?

[TheMojoPin]

I think that he is slowly turning away from protecting his family and turning into something else. He had the chance to change course when he got the new diagnosis after finding out the treatment was working, but he immediately went back to distributing the meth. Also, he seems to be getting sloppier. He left the phone on in the classroom and now there will be a police investigation into Jesse since Jane had the OD. Even though she was blackmailing him, why would he invite any situation that would bring law enforcement closer to him?

Yeah, that's the first thing I thought of after the end. Jane's dad is going to want the cops to tear Jesse apart, so he's a huge liability now. I'm glad the episode cut out when it did because I thought Walt might honestly shoot up Jesse with an OD dose himself to finish off the loose ends.

[JimBeam]

I still don't think Walt is being intentionally evil.

Obvioulsy letting that girl die was a terrible thing and it impacted him greatly but I think in his mind it was him acting alturistically. He felt as though that needed to be done to save Jesse.

I also think if he had known that it was Jesse who was the bad influence on her, to a point because it was her idea to do the heroin, and that she had been clean for 18 months he might've felt differently about her.

The scene w/ Walt and the girl's dad was cool because they were both thinking the same things but about the 2 opposite people.

There is a part about Walt that is slipping though. I think in the beginning he couldn't have cared less how the family got the money as long as they did have it. Now he's kinda making it all about him and while the family needing the money is still the priority he's too involved in having to be " the man " that made it happen.

I thought I read early on that they were ending it after 2 seasons. I was totally expecting next week's episode to be the show's finale ?

Is that not the case ?

[Jujubees2]

I thought I read early on that they were ending it after 2 seasons. I was totally expecting next week's episode to be the show's finale ?

Is that not the case ?

Last month they announced there would be a season three but they didn't say how many episodes.

[TheMojoPin]

The AV Club has a great analysis of the last episode (http://www.avclub.com/articles/phoenix,28398/?utm_source=channel_tv-club) and just how off the rails Walt is getting.

[TheMojoPin]

Save Walter White! (http://savewalterwhite.com/)

[EddieMoscone]

Article on next week's final in Newsday (http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/blog/2009/05/breaking_bad_the_finale.html)

Time to get excited.

[yojimbo7248]

Article on next week's final in Newsday (http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/blog/2009/05/breaking_bad_the_finale.html)

Time to get excited.

Thanks for that article. I loved this show from the start but Odenkirk's character is one of the best I have ever seen on t.v. Easily the best show currently on t.v. and one of the best of all time. can't wait for the finale.

[Jujubees2]

Article on next week's final in Newsday (http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/blog/2009/05/breaking_bad_the_finale.html)

Time to get excited.

Bravo. Can't wait for Sunday night!

[hammersavage]

I liked the symmetry last episode when Jane turned Jesse to his side and put a blanket rolled up underneath his back so he wouldn't roll over. Moments after Hank did it to the baby.

And Hank letting her die was shocking to me, I thought she'd go tonight. I will finally watch live.

[GreatAmericanZero]

obviously theres spoilers in my post because the finale just aired, but i can't imagine anyone clicking this thread after its aired and not expect it to be talked about


at 10:18 when i started my DVR i was almost too nervous to watch it. I'm like "i dont know if i can handle it"

the season finale was more poetic than nerve wrecking, but the way the show was constructed, your mind thinks of everything that could possible go wrong that any simple action makes you nervous

even when Jane's dad was in her room I was like "oh no, Jane has a diary!"

My biggest worry during the episode is that a goon of Giancarlo Esposito would go to Walt's house to kill him when he already moved out and take out Skylar and Walt Jr and totally fuck with our heads


anyway they went totally out of left field for an ending that none of us could ever predict and it was cool. And it sets up next season to be really interesting with hopefully a bigger role of Giancarlo Esposito's character

it will probably be a year before another new episode so i will enjoy my year of relaxation but in the back of my mind i will worry of how this show is going to fuck with my head next season

[The Ogre]

See I went the opposite way. I don't expect my shows to be like a game of Clue where I can nail down that the the butler did it in the dining room with the candlestick, but there has to be some reasonably logical confluence of events. A fucking plane crash? Really? I'll still be watching next year but my level of anticipation is severely down, Between the tightening of all of the characters' circles in very forced ways, to that completely unforseen ending I'm pretty disappointed.

[monkfish]

Yeah - that ending was totally not what I expected all of those pool clips from earlier episodes to be - but the two fires in the background at the start of this episode kind of threw me. Great season.

[GreatAmericanZero]

i want to watch the episode again because my feeling is that the true appreciation of that episode will come when your heart isn't racing worried about whats going to happen and you can focus on what does happen. The best acting on tv...the most interesting characters. i loved it

[The Ogre]

I really have to disagree. I love the show as well, but i just don't think this episode deserves any appreciation. Maybe if it was the penultimate episode of the season and the next dealt with the fallout, but this? Everyone lives except for the nameless passengers of the 737. There is no resolution of any story that was started this season. Only the start of a new story(Sky leaving Walt) that we'll have to wait 9 months to a year to see come to fruition. The way this show has resolved character arcs(Tortuga, Combo, Jane, Tuco, Crazy 8) led the audience to believe there would be some type of serious resolution even if it wasn't going to be two violent murders that filled the driveway body bags. The "resolution" we got was about as random as if a martian had landed next to Walt, farted, then did a breakdancing routine.

[hammersavage]

Again, the symmetry when Jane's dad laid out her dress then the cut to the baby laying out on the bed. Good stuff

[GreatAmericanZero]

I really have to disagree. I love the show as well, but i just don't think this episode deserves any appreciation. Maybe if it was the penultimate episode of the season and the next dealt with the fallout, but this? Everyone lives except for the nameless passengers of the 737. There is no resolution of any story that was started this season. Only the start of a new story(Sky leaving Walt) that we'll have to wait 9 months to a year to see come to fruition. The way this show has resolved character arcs(Tortuga, Combo, Jane, Tuco, Crazy 8) led the audience to believe there would be some type of serious resolution even if it wasn't going to be two violent murders that filled the driveway body bags. The "resolution" we got was about as random as if a martian had landed next to Walt, farted, then did a breakdancing routine.

the ending was a swerve, everybody was guessing what was going to happen and got it wrong. Most of it was resolved, Saul is taking care of everything..Jesse is in rehab...all the drugs he made were sold and being distributed. If you can't appreciate the swerve and you feel like the show misled you than i don't know what to tell you but i can say i loved it

[The Ogre]

The swerve was called a few weeks ago by a sharp eyed dude who realized the episodes with the bear opening had the titles of "737" "Down" "Over" "ABQ". I thought it was just coincidence at the time and thought that there was no way they'd end such a realisitic season with a plane crash, but we see how that ended up.

I disagree about the resolutions as well. You're talking about somple mechanics. Of course Saul has the money. The money isn't the issue, Jesse is. And knowing the failure rate of rehabbed junkies, Jesse's story is still up in the air.

The drugs being sold and distributed isn't the story either. It's whether or not Walt will continue to cook the meth.

I am not shitting on this show because I hate it. It's easily my favorite drama on TV. I just think that in order to not give the audience an obvious answer(Jane's dad killing Jesse/the cartel killing Sky and Walt Jr), Vince gilligan went waaay too fucking far into left field.

[FatassTitePants]

I agree with GAZ. Walt's body count just skyrocketed, which supports my theory that he is going to lose everything he is trying to preserve through his meth business. I also think the producers added an extra season to the origional script, so a left-field swerve was to be expected. I admit, though, that I had thought for a while that the 2 bodies were Skylar and Walt Jr after some kind of explosion from the house. I love it. I have no idea what is going on and I will have to watch the whole season again before the new one starts. Well done.

[GreatAmericanZero]

The swerve was called a few weeks ago by a sharp eyed dude who realized the episodes with the bear opening had the titles of "737" "Down" "Over" "ABQ". I thought it was just coincidence at the time and thought that there was no way they'd end such a realisitic season with a plane crash, but we see how that ended up.

I disagree about the resolutions as well. You're talking about somple mechanics. Of course Saul has the money. The money isn't the issue, Jesse is. And knowing the failure rate of rehabbed junkies, Jesse's story is still up in the air.

The drugs being sold and distributed isn't the story either. It's whether or not Walt will continue to cook the meth.

I am not shitting on this show because I hate it. It's easily my favorite drama on TV. I just think that in order to not give the audience an obvious answer(Jane's dad killing Jesse/the cartel killing Sky and Walt Jr), Vince gilligan went waaay too fucking far into left field.

like i said before, sorry you didn't like it but i left feeling very satisfied with it all

[hammersavage]

like i said before, sorry you didn't like it but i left feeling very satisfied with it all

I say the same thing after sexual intercourse

[The Ogre]

like i said before, sorry you didn't like it but i left feeling very satisfied with it all

I'm picking up some irritation. Is a discussion about this episode bothering you in the thread dedicated to the show? I kind of like the back and forth instead of just having us agree that it sucked or that it was wonderful.

[GreatAmericanZero]

I'm picking up some irritation. Is a discussion about this episode bothering you in the thread dedicated to the show? I kind of like the back and forth instead of just having us agree that it sucked or that it was wonderful.

its not irritating me, i just said my opinion, then you said something and all i can do is state my exact opinion again. Why would i want to keep typing the same thing over and over again, its not that important to me. You didn't get enjoyment out of something I did..I'm suppose to talk all night about it? I have things to do

[yojimbo7248]

I thought that was one of the best season finales I have seen in years - just the right balance of tying together plot lines and bringing up enough questions to make me want to watch next season. Easily one of the best shows of all time.

[TheMojoPin]

Yeah, I enjoyed it. I'm sad that Q likely isn't going to be back. He did a great job with the small roll he had. The look on his face when he pulled up to the condo and saw the ambulance was heartbreaking.

Walt's pretty much fucked.

[Jujubees2]

Did anyone else notice in the beginning of the show when the people in the HazMat suits brought the container with the stuffed animal out to the front of the house that they put it in a van with NTSB on the roof? At that point I figured it was a plane crash and as the truck drove off to see the two pillars of smoke confirmer it though I didn't know Jane's dad was an air traffic controller.

How about the collection bucket that Hank passed around at the office? The positioning of Walt’s photo at times was funny (once it was position just under a wanted poster). And to see Gus’ reaction when he sees Walt’s photo at the DEA office!

I was at the edge of my seat waiting for something “major” to happen.

Does anyone know if the guy who plays Walt Jr. really has CP or is he just acting?

[hammersavage]

I thought Gus would do something. That was a bit of a tease.

I guess we didn't know Jane's dad enough to see this coming or not. I was surprised, didn't think he was at that point.

[TheMojoPin]

I thought Gus would do something. That was a bit of a tease.

I guess we didn't know Jane's dad enough to see this coming or not. I was surprised, didn't think he was at that point.

I would have been let down if all the teasers had been leading up to Gus somehoe being involved in the bodies at Walt's place. He's only just shown up, and he seems like too precise a character to just leap to bloodshed like that.

The more I think about it, Q probably will be around next season in some capacity. He's likely going to want to have dealings with Jesse.

The scene between Skylar and Walt is probably one of the most uncomfortable and agonizing things I've watched on TV or in a film.

I think the ending is fitting. It's symbolic of all the destruction Walt is bringing with his new profession. In a roundabout way, the crash is his fault. We've been seeing bodies pile up because of him (and God knows how many more we haven't seen thanks to his side job): now they're literally falling out of the sky all around him due to his lies and manipulations.

[hammersavage]

I think the ending is fitting. It's symbolic of all the destruction Walt is bringing with his new profession. In a roundabout way, the crash is his fault. We've been seeing bodies pile up because of him (and God knows how many more we haven't seen thanks to his side job): now they're literally falling out of the sky all around him due to his lies and manipulations.

But only we know that. For now I guess

[PD]

I would have been let down if all the teasers had been leading up to Gus somehoe being involved in the bodies at Walt's place. He's only just shown up, and he seems like too precise a character to just leap to bloodshed like that.

The more I think about it, Q probably will be around next season in some capacity. He's likely going to want to have dealings with Jesse.

The scene between Skylar and Walt is probably one of the most uncomfortable and agonizing things I've watched on TV or in a film.

I think the ending is fitting. It's symbolic of all the destruction Walt is bringing with his new profession. In a roundabout way, the crash is his fault. We've been seeing bodies pile up because of him (and God knows how many more we haven't seen thanks to his side job): now they're literally falling out of the sky all around him due to his lies and manipulations.

this was how I felt.
(what MojoPin said)

The teddy bear in the pool threw me- i had thought it was related directly to a meth hit earlier that I missed. Once we found out that Jane's father was an air traffic controller we knew what would happen, although I kept thinking "pleas, dont let it happen".

Watching all the ramifications of Walt's new career cause all of the pain he was looking to avoid, watching his relationship with Jesse, this is such a well crafted show, I too hope there is a satisfying plan.

[TheMojoPin]

But only we know that. For now I guess

True, but there's a lot of things that we know watching a TV show that the characters don't.

I look at this largely as a very dramatic and sudden metaphor for the death suffering that Walt is causing through his choices.

That scene with him and Jesse at the smackhouse was pretty heartbreaking.

[GreatAmericanZero]

the plane crash was def a metaphor for his whole life and situation

i can only assume that Gus will have a much larger role next season...which he should, something about him really fascinates me

[lleeder]

I was so excited after the second to last episode that I couldn't wait to see the season finale. I was disappointed at the way everything ended. The point of a season finale isn't only to set up the next season. Some things need to be resolved. I wish they would have just killed Jane in the last episode if they were gonna let her OD. The end of this season had a very Sopranos feel to it for me. I think they made us feel like some serious shit was gonna happen with the shots each week of the bear in the pool. I never thought that there was even two bodies in those bags on the driveway but what they gave us felt like it went too far off the reality of that world.

[drusilla]

Did anyone else notice in the beginning of the show when the people in the HazMat suits brought the container with the stuffed animal out to the front of the house that they put it in a van with NTSB on the roof?


i noticed that too & thought it was odd that they would start the episode with something so random. then jane's dad goes to work & you see he's an air traffic controller. my heart just sank. i thought to myself "oh no, this is not going to be good". but for some reason i thought there were alarms or something that would go off like in pushing tin that would alert other people to a possible situation. so i just sat here watching with my jaw dropped as the crash happened.

this show is the most mellow yet the most intense show on tv. i'm amazed that they can pull that off every week.

[TheMojoPin]

I was so excited after the second to last episode that I couldn't wait to see the season finale. I was disappointed at the way everything ended. The point of a season finale isn't only to set up the next season. Some things need to be resolved. I wish they would have just killed Jane in the last episode if they were gonna let her OD. The end of this season had a very Sopranos feel to it for me. I think they made us feel like some serious shit was gonna happen with the shots each week of the bear in the pool. I never thought that there was even two bodies in those bags on the driveway but what they gave us felt like it went too far off the reality of that world.

Personally, I think they resolved just about everything they could while still leaving some stuff going for the next season. I think you could actually end the show right now and it would be a satisfying ending. There would still be questions, but a good show should always leave some questions unanswered or possibilities that things could go on and on this way or that. Wrapping everything up is trite and totally unrealistic, especially for a show like this.

[underdog]

I haven't read anything in this thread yet, but my tivo recorded a random season 2 episode on Sunday, so I decided to check it out to see what the hype was about (it was the episode with the plane crash).

I dl'ed the first season and watched the first 6 episodes yesterday and finished it up this evening. I'm waiting for the 2nd season to arrive on my computer now. I'm totally, utterly hooked on this show. And so isn't my wife. This show is so well written and so well acted. I love it.

[TheMojoPin]

I haven't read anything in this thread yet, but my tivo recorded a random season 2 episode on Sunday, so I decided to check it out to see what the hype was about (it was the episode with the plane crash).

I dl'ed the first season and watched the first 6 episodes yesterday and finished it up this evening. I'm waiting for the 2nd season to arrive on my computer now. I'm totally, utterly hooked on this show. And so isn't my wife. This show is so well written and so well acted. I love it.

Yeah, I did the same thing. I checked out the first episode of the 2nd season when it premiered and immediately went out and bought the season 1 DVD's and watched them all that weekend.

[underdog]

so it turns out the one episode I watched to start it all off was the season 2 finale. What an interesting way to watch this series, having already seen the end of season 2.

Watching Jane's dad and Walt talk in the bar was fucking brutal knowing that she was going to die. Knowing that ending made that scene so much more emotional and real. It was crazy.

And I took the plane crash as symbolism (I guess that's the word) of how this one, formally good high school chemistry teacher can effect so many people's lives so negatively. I thought it was such an interesting and great ending to the season.

I absolutely adore this show. The acting is fantastic. Almost everyone's emotion seems so, so real (especially Jesse's).

[GreatAmericanZero]

i read a review of "Breaking Bad" stating that it is the 2nd best show on tv after "Mad Men"

Is "Mad Men" really that good?

For an hour long show I need a certain amount of "edge"...like I need to say "whoa thats fucked up" a lot of times for me to be really into a series. I say that a lot during "Breaking Bad". Is "Mad Men" that type of show? Or is it just loved because its a period piece with great acting and witty dialogue and so forth? If there is a chance I would think its a better series than "Breaking Bad" i would definitley give it a shot

[biozombie]

I wish Los Pollo Hermanos was a real chicken joint in Albuquerque. (those scenes were filmed at an nice local chain called Twisters, they don't sell fried chicken, but they have outstanding breakfast burritos...)

[hammersavage]

i read a review of "Breaking Bad" stating that it is the 2nd best show on tv after "Mad Men"

Is "Mad Men" really that good?

For an hour long show I need a certain amount of "edge"...like I need to say "whoa thats fucked up" a lot of times for me to be really into a series. I say that a lot during "Breaking Bad". Is "Mad Men" that type of show? Or is it just loved because its a period piece with great acting and witty dialogue and so forth? If there is a chance I would think its a better series than "Breaking Bad" i would definitley give it a shot

Mad Men is really that good. That shows blows my mind. Not the edge of your seat deal BB is, but they get the era so right and its such a compelling, well acted story. Definitely check it out GAZ

[indymike]

Wait - seriously that was it? I dunno why I am shocked but I thought there would be more to this season.

Ughhhhhhh.....

I say one more season and wrap it up. Love the show - but it is an emotional rollercoaster and I want the ride toend before it get old.

[TheMojoPin]

How can anyone say "that was it?"

Walt's entire side career has blown up in his face. His family has left him. That's gigantic.

[drjoek]

The show is brilliant. Second season was way darker than the first which was a little lighthearted The finale was awesome. Loved Bob Odenkirk.

[TobyWong]

Stupid fucking show. Ooooh, so clever. Chem teacher uses knowledge to make good meth. Rest is dweeby guy worm has turned story. Boring

[PD]

Stupid fucking show. Ooooh, so clever. Chem teacher uses knowledge to make good meth. Rest is dweeby guy worm has turned story. Boring

ooh, such a clever analysis.

[indymike]

How can anyone say "that was it?"

Walt's entire side career has blown up in his face. His family has left him. That's gigantic.


I can....

That was it?

Can I help it I am a bit ticked off that the show is over for another what - year almost?

Love the show - even though it really made me uncomfortable at times this season - but I don't want it to be over - I wanted to have a few more episodes this season.

[TheMojoPin]

I can....

That was it?

I can only assume this is referring to the body bags that we had been seeing outside the house for most of the season.

Most of the theories seemed to be thinking that it was going to be major characters in those bags, but if it had been THAT would have been the ultimate "that's it?" moment. There's nothing more final than death. Killing off vital characters in a series this compelling is ultimately much more of a cop-out since it removes critical conflicts and dimensions that make the show what it is. If Skylar or Jesse or Walt jr. or people along those lines are in the bags then all you've done is subtract critical elements of the show without adding anything. The finale we got instead ADDED more conflict, complication and tension to a series already masterfully rife with it. The finale has ideally added more to what makes the show so strong as opposed to taking the easy way out and subtracting.

[Zipgun]

It's just such a good fucking show, period.

[Jujubees2]

It's just such a good fucking show, period.

QFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Enabler]

Has everyone checked out the "minisodes" on amctv? They advertised them at the end of every show but I never checked them out until today. They are fucking great!

TWAUGHTHAMMER FOREVER!

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[ANC]

I just finished season 2 last night.. This show is fuckin' genius.

I'm glad I was late to the party on this so I could watch season 1 and 2 back to back, but now I'm jonesin' for season 3.