Who Should I Root For in the NFC Championship?

[Tenbatsuzen]

This Sunday, in the NFC Championship game, the Giants are playing the Packers at Lambeau Field.

Now, I am a tried and true Jets fan. And I don't apply myself that because you root for one New York team, you must automatically hate the other. I don't call them my team or root for them. They are there and I'll watch them.

BUT...

I've always had a weird relationship with Green Bay. One of the first players I became aware of other than the Jets and Giants growing up was Don Majkowski.

Don't ask.

So I've always watched the Packers out of the corner of my eye. I like Green Bay, I like how they do football. I'm a big fan of "retro" - and Green Bay is the very definition of retro football.

Plus, how can't you like Brett Favre? He's the most popular NFL player. He's a crusty old man! And he's getting the job done.

So who should I root for?

[Bunny™]

Well who would you like to see get demolished by New England in the Super Bowl?

I say.. GO GIANTS!

[ToddEVF]

I went Giants just so I can see them blow it in the Superbowl.

Come on Big Blue (balls of failure), you have to win your next game before you get ready for golfing.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Packers,. we dont want any Jet fans to cheer for us

esp if we play the pats, drink away your failure

you should have grown up a giants fan

[Freakshow]

I'm rooting for snow. That way, we all win.

[Chip196]

Root for the Packers .... I want to see the Perfect Pats take on Farve ... see if he's got any of that magic left.

[donnie_darko]

wow, i'm about to go poop, should i wipe with my left or right hand??

[epo]

Matty, we've got room on the bandwagon for 1 more.

http://rightwingnuthouse.com/images/p1_brett_td_getty.jpg

[Marc with a c]

majkowski is the last quaterback to start for the packers after favre.

[ToddEVF]

wow, i'm about to go poop, should i wipe with my left or right hand??

tough call, i want to say left. . .

[Marc with a c]

you should root for whomever you think has better chance to beat new england

[OGC]

wow, i'm about to go poop, should i wipe with my left or right hand??


I think that should be another poll.

[ralphbxny]

Id like to see the giants go so I say go Giants!

[Bulldogcakes]

Now, I am a tried and true Jets fan. And I don't apply myself that because you root for one New York team, you must automatically hate the other.


I think you answered it right there. You're a Jet fan, and a Jersey guy. Gotta go with the other local team unless you hate them for some reason, which you don't. A passing interest in another team would factor in for me only if both local teams were out of the mix.

[IMSlacker]

I'll be rooting for the Giants. My hate for the Green Bay Packers is second only to my hate for the St. Louis Cardinals, and it's a close second (no offense, epo).

[Gvac]

No Jet fan could ever root for the Giants and feel good about himself.

[Tenbatsuzen]

No Jet fan could ever root for the Giants and feel good about himself.

No Jet fan could ever root for the JETS and feel good about himself. We're a fucking masochistic bunch.

[Snoogans]

Glad you decided to come around to a real team. I voted packers, just cause i dont want anyone who thinks joe namath belongs in the HOF rootin for my team

[TheMojoPin]

If there's a another "local" team near your favorite team, it is your duty to fucking hate them. Anyone who says they're a Giants and Jets fan, or a Mets and Yankees fan, or a Cubs and White Sox fan or of multiple California or Texas teams or whatever should get the ol' soap in a sock routine. If your team is out, that should just make you hate and root even harder against the other local team.

[spoon]

Nice, way to root for the other conf. A true Jets fan would root against the Pats that's for sure! And fuck the Jets, I say root for the Knicks and stay away from real football.

[Snoogans]

If there's a another "local" team near your favorite team, it is your duty to fucking hate them. Anyone who says they're a Giants and Jets fan, or a Mets and Yankees fan, or a Cubs and White Sox fan or of multiple California or Texas teams or whatever should get the ol' soap in a sock routine. If your team is out, that should just make you hate and root even harder against the other local team.

ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY

FUCK THE OTHER LOCAL TEAMS

AND FUCK ANY TEAM IN PHILLY

[Kevin]

How aboot that Eli Chad comparison??

HE JUST WINS BABY!!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

If there's a another "local" team near your favorite team, it is your duty to fucking hate them. Anyone who says they're a Giants and Jets fan, or a Mets and Yankees fan, or a Cubs and White Sox fan or of multiple California or Texas teams or whatever should get the ol' soap in a sock routine. If your team is out, that should just make you hate and root even harder against the other local team.

QFT

by the way Mojo can you put on a (white)Sox hat, that would be lovely

[TheMojoPin]

by the way Mojo can you put on a (white)Sox hat, that would be lovely

Urge to kill...rising...

[spoon]

Urge to kill...rising...

Just read a few yank bdc posts to bring down the swelling! :furious:

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Urge to kill...rising...

your choice

http://www.paragonsports.com/Paragon/images/medium/5-w.sox6432__pd.jpg

or

http://www.statty.com/images/sox_hat_good.jpg

[Kevin]

OLD SCHOOL!

http://www.mickeysplace.com/images/hccws17h.jpg

[BoondockSaint]

I now root for who my money is with and that made for a terrible weekend.

[TheMojoPin]

your choice

http://www.paragonsports.com/Paragon/images/medium/5-w.sox6432__pd.jpg

or

http://www.statty.com/images/sox_hat_good.jpg

I'd rather wear the shorts.

[PapaBear]

I want Green Bay to take it all the way. That way we get to see how Fez and Dave handle the Favre retirement question for next year.

[Snacks]

Glad you decided to come around to a real team. I voted packers, just cause i dont want anyone who thinks joe namath belongs in the HOF rootin for my team

aint that the truth.

As for your thread/question. Didnt you pretty much answer the question yourself in your post? You sound like your going to root for GB. No need to ask a question when you already know the answer.

[Devo37]

I'm rooting for snow. That way, we all win.

I'm rooting for an earthquake to swallow Lambeau Field.

(Jets fan; also, I hate Brett Fav-re)

at any rate, Packers vs. Patriots would probably be a better game for the Superbowl.

[Tenbatsuzen]

If there's a another "local" team near your favorite team, it is your duty to fucking hate them. Anyone who says they're a Giants and Jets fan, or a Mets and Yankees fan, or a Cubs and White Sox fan or of multiple California or Texas teams or whatever should get the ol' soap in a sock routine. If your team is out, that should just make you hate and root even harder against the other local team.

I'M MOJO PIN AND I'M RUNNING MY MOUTH AND MISSING THE POINT.

First, I'm not a "Jets and Giants" fan. I'm a Jets fan, first and foremost, and the only teams I hate are the teams who have messed around with the Jets the most - the Patriots, the Dolphins, and the Raiders.

Am I going to run out and stock up on Plax or Favre jerseys? No. I don't regularly root for both NY teams, I just don't understand the animosity you supposedly have to have for the other team in market just because they are there. It makes ZERO sense, especially since the Jets and Giants play each other once every four years.

In hockey, I can understand (and embrace) the animosity. In baseball, I can understand it. But in football? Makes no sense. They never play each other.

I understand sports bigamy. I don't like people who say they root for both teams. But I don't have a dog in the fight in the playoffs anymore. I'll definitely be rooting for the Chargers because I HAAAAAATE the Patriots, but I'm unsure who to root for in this game.

I'm leaning more towards Green Bay, because I found that I have a Reggie White jersey in my closet, one of the few non-Jets jerseys I have in my collection.

[TheMojoPin]

I'M TENBATS AND I NEED TO START A THREAD ABOUT MYSELF SO PEOPLE WILL TALK ABOUT ME EVEN THOUGH I MADE UP MY MIND BEFORE I HIT "POST."

I think the hatred makes perfect sense, just as much in football as any other sport. You're rasied to root for one team...anyone else is the enemy, especially the other local teams. Who cares if they don't play each other that often? How do baseball rivalries make more sense when teams have been doing the interdivisional thing for less than 15 years now?

It's like gangs scrapping over the same territory. You can only join one and wish destruction on the rest.

[Freitag]

I'M TENBATS AND I NEED TO START A THREAD ABOUT MYSELF SO PEOPLE WILL TALK ABOUT ME EVEN THOUGH I MADE UP MY MIND BEFORE I HIT "POST."

I think the hatred makes perfect sense, just as much in football as any other sport. You're rasied to root for one team...anyone else is the enemy, especially the other local teams. Who cares if they don't play each other that often? How do baseball rivalries make more sense when teams have been doing the interdivisional thing for less than 15 years now?

It's like gangs scrapping over the same territory. You can only join one and wish destruction on the rest.

The Yankees-Mets rivalry makes sense is because there has been about 100x more "heat" on the Yankees and Mets playing against each other than there ever has on the Giants and Jets playing against each other, ESPECIALLY since the Yankees and Mets faced off in the World Series.

The Jets are nowhere near this game, the Jets have nothing to do with this game, so I'm viewing it from a completely neutral standpoint as a Football Fan. This is not a gang-war because I don't have a deep emotional investment in either team, outside the fact that I watch the Giants every weekend simply because "it's on" and I like to watch football.

I understand that all other teams are "the enemy", but that only counts in the season, on game day. So you're telling me that I have to get all worked up about a team we only play once every four years? Why? Because of "bragging rights"? What bragging rights? We're the Jets, for God's sake, we haven't won a championship in close to 40 years and our most legendary player is a recovering alcoholic who made a complete fool of himself on national TV. Well, wait, the Giants have LT, so I guess it's a push.

Do you know why, as a Jets fan, I can't get worked up to hate the Giants? Because unlike the other sports, I'll always be on the losing side of the argument. The Giants have consistently fielded better teams with better front office management and two more Super Bowl appearances than we have. So why hate a team who constantly outclasses yours, just because they play in the same building?

So I can sound like those idiots who froth at the mouth on WFAN? No thanks. I'll take a pass on that.

[sailor]

fuck the giants

[DiabloSammich]

Sorry Giants fans, Packers are the better story. Eli will have his day, he's still young, and he's a decent qb.

It looked for the longest time that Favre would end a historic career on a whimper. There's nothing sadder. I have always tended to not get wrapped up in any one team (the Eagles make that easy for me) as much as I love the "great story"

Like it or not, Favre going to, and winning the Super Bowl will be a bigger story than 16 and 0.

[DiabloSammich]

fuck the giants


That too.

[Earlshog]

No Jet fan could ever root for the Giants and feel good about himself.

The Giants and Jets are not in same conference. They really don't have any significant history against each other. No rivalry at all. I like to see the Jets do well ( well except for the Parcels years, those were rough) it makes things more interesting.

[Earlshog]

If there's a another "local" team near your favorite team, it is your duty to fucking hate them. Anyone who says they're a Giants and Jets fan, or a Mets and Yankees fan, or a Cubs and White Sox fan or of multiple California or Texas teams or whatever should get the ol' soap in a sock routine. If your team is out, that should just make you hate and root even harder against the other local team.

I disagree if the two teams do not have a significant history against each other its kind of a phony made up hatred. For example I am a lifelong Knicks fan, I hate Miami, Indiana, Chicago, Boston. I hate them for the rivalries that existed between the teams over the years. At the same time I like to see the Nets do well. The Nets for the most part were always a doormat when the Knicks were good and when the Nets had there run the Knicks were bad. So the two teams never had a meaningful rivalry.

Now if Michael Jordon would have been a Net and they would have beat the Knicks every year in the Playoffs sure I would hate them with a passion. To me you don't have to hate based on geography, it should be because that team ripped your heart out of you chest.

[buzzard]

it does NOT matter who loses to New England might as well be Giants!

[Jujubees2]

I've always had a weird relationship with Green Bay. One of the first players I became aware of other than the Jets and Giants growing up was Don Majkowski.

<b>Don't ask.</b>

Did he lure you in the locker room one day and show you what a real set of NFL balls?

[TheMojoPin]

Do you know why, as a Jets fan, I can't get worked up to hate the Giants? Because unlike the other sports, I'll always be on the losing side of the argument. The Giants have consistently fielded better teams with better front office management and two more Super Bowl appearances than we have. So why hate a team who constantly outclasses yours, just because they play in the same building?

You can recognize that they're better, but why let that downplay the hatred? What's the fun in that? Being a sports fan in general isn't supposed to be well thought out and rational. An hell, you should ESPECIALLY hate the other team that plays in the same damn place as yours.

[Snoogans]

The Giants and Jets are not in same conference. They really don't have any significant history against each other. No rivalry at all. I like to see the Jets do well ( well except for the Parcels years, those were rough) it makes things more interesting.

WHAT. We are still annoyed cause the whiney jet bitches constantly complain there arent enough Jet logos on a stadium that THEY BEGGED US TO BE ALLOWED IN

The main reason I hate the Jets is, watch a game. JETS GAMES ARE THE MOST BORING FUCKIN THINGS IVE EVER SAT THROUGH. AWFUL GAMES

[Snoogans]

Do you know why, as a Jets fan, I can't get worked up to hate the Giants? Because unlike the other sports, I'll always be on the losing side of the argument. The Giants have consistently fielded better teams with better front office management and two more Super Bowl appearances than we have. So why hate a team who constantly outclasses yours, just because they play in the same building?


Yet you still try to argue that Pennington is better then Eli Manning?

[Earlshog]

WHAT. We are still annoyed cause the whiney jet bitches constantly complain there arent enough Jet logos on a stadium that THEY BEGGED US TO BE ALLOWED IN

The main reason I hate the Jets is, watch a game. JETS GAMES ARE THE MOST BORING FUCKIN THINGS IVE EVER SAT THROUGH. AWFUL GAMES

ha-ha... come on, you mean you didn't love seeing Rich Kotite staring at that clipboard, with that dopey bewildered look on his face, when the Jets were down 35 - 7 with ten minutes left in the third.... ha-ha..

[Snoogans]

ha-ha... come on, you mean you didn't love seeing Rich Kotite staring at that clipboard, with that dopey bewildered look on his face, when the Jets were down 35 - 7 with ten minutes left in the third.... ha-ha..

i mean even today. The Jets could find a way to be in a 51-49 game and it would somehow be boring. It really is remarkable

[Freitag]

WHAT. We are still annoyed cause the whiney jet bitches constantly complain there arent enough Jet logos on a stadium that THEY BEGGED US TO BE ALLOWED IN


So annoyed that Mara's corpse came out of the grave and applauded when the Jets decided to give you the other half of the money you needed for a new stadium? Come on now.

Show me evidence that the Jets themselves complained. They never rebranded the stadium until Woody took over. It was mainly the Jets FANS who were complaining, not the front office.

Giants Stadium itself lacks any kind of discernible "personality", so I'm not complaining about it, I just don't like fake turf.


The main reason I hate the Jets is, watch a game. JETS GAMES ARE THE MOST BORING FUCKIN THINGS IVE EVER SAT THROUGH. AWFUL GAMES

Right. Because the consistently ranked most exciting Monday Night Football game ever is the Monday Night Miracle. How's it feel knowing that your team's most memorable play is the fact the other kicker missed?

[Freitag]

Yet you still try to argue that Pennington is better then Eli Manning?

Take notice Snoogs: The press is not saying that Eli "led the Giants" to these victories. More often that not, you'll see the backhanded compliments that "Eli wasn't great, but he got the job done."

At this point, he's Trent Dilfer.

I really shoot root for the Giants just to annoy you.

[Freitag]

You can recognize that they're better, but why let that downplay the hatred? What's the fun in that? Being a sports fan in general isn't supposed to be well thought out and rational. An hell, you should ESPECIALLY hate the other team that plays in the same damn place as yours.

What sense does that even make? It's hard to downplay Hatred when there is none to begin with. They're the Giants. As Earlhog said, there's NO HEAT THERE. Other than sharing a building, which has no personality, it's hard to get worked up.

[Snoogans]

Take notice Snoogs: The press is not saying that Eli "led the Giants" to these victories. More often that not, you'll see the backhanded compliments that "Eli wasn't great, but he got the job done."

At this point, he's Trent Dilfer.

I really shoot root for the Giants just to annoy you.

are you fuckin kidding? they have been ALL OVER Eli's jock the past 2 weeks. Are you even really a sports fan?

"Right. Because the consistently ranked most exciting Monday Night Football game ever is the Monday Night Miracle. How's it feel knowing that your team's most memorable play is the fact the other kicker missed?"

HAHAHAHA. You are gonna compare winning a regular season monday night game to the giants WINNING THE SUPER BOWL. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAhAHAHAHAHAHAhAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And you named 1 game from like 8 years ago. Get over it. Im talking week to week Jets games are always fuckin BORING. As evidenced by you bringing up an 8 or 9 year old regular season game and comparing it to a Giants Super Bowl win.


You cant honestly act like you know sports now. You might watch them, but only cause alot of people do so its cool to like it. But you cant honestly think you know about them after these comments

[Snoogans]

you are aware that the missed FG is only a memorable thing cause IT WON A SB. If that happened in week 8, no one would remember. Kickers miss game winning kicks all the time. you should know, you had John Hall and now have Nugent. You are just retarded

[King Hippos Bandaid]

trying to talk Jets- Giants is like me trying to argue 1969 and 1986 against all 26 of the Yanks titles


Jet fans are such a sad creature, esp the ones like Matty and my bro who were born after 1969, It has been failure after failure

How does it feel to be the Royals of the NFL. ( I know you make the playoffs once in a while, and thats A Dor a able)


As you get your beer and pretzels ready to watch the NFC and AFC Championship Game, keep in mind that all you Jet fans said that we suck and that Pennington will get us past the Pats this year. Just realize, it was all for nothing, no matter what coach QB or RB you have, you will never be a good franchise.

Jet fans live vicarious through either

A: Hating the Fins Giants or Pats
B: Finding a good franchise to bandwagon through the playoffs


Excuse me but I have an NFC championship to prepare for

[cougarjake13]

go giants !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tenbatsuzen]

you are aware that the missed FG is only a memorable thing cause IT WON A SB. If that happened in week 8, no one would remember. Kickers miss game winning kicks all the time. you should know, you had John Hall and now have Nugent. You are just retarded

Next time you try to talk trash, at least get it fucking right. It's Doug Brien you're referring.

[Tenbatsuzen]

are you fuckin kidding? they have been ALL OVER Eli's jock the past 2 weeks. Are you even really a sports fan?



Manning wasn't spectacular. He threw only 18 times. But he didn't make mistakes. And really that was all the Giants needed.



The facts remain clear - it's not so much Eli outplayed the Cowboys, it's that the cowboys FAILED.

I will give Eli credit - that drive in the end of the first half showed flashes of brilliance. BUT HE IS NOT A HIGH CALIBER QB YET.


Im talking week to week Jets games are always fuckin BORING. As evidenced by you bringing up an 8 or 9 year old regular season game and comparing it to a Giants Super Bowl win.


You cant honestly act like you know sports now. You might watch them, but only cause alot of people do so its cool to like it. But you cant honestly think you know about them after these comments

You're a dolt. You talk how Jets games are "boring". You also keep harping on how Namath shouldn't be in the HOF, when I've proven you wrong on that. Ugh. It's like banging my head into a wall.

[cougarjake13]

What sense does that even make? It's hard to downplay Hatred when there is none to begin with. They're the Giants. As Earlhog said, there's NO HEAT THERE. Other than sharing a building, which has no personality, it's hard to get worked up.

except for that one time we lost to the jets and it cost us a playoff spot

[spoon]

The facts remain clear - it's not so much Eli outplayed the Cowboys, it's that the cowboys FAILED.

I will give Eli credit - that drive in the end of the first half showed flashes of brilliance. BUT HE IS NOT A HIGH CALIBER QB YET.



Let's be honest here, Eli is graded much tougher simply bc he was traded for four fucking picks and the other QB they gave up is playing pretty much the same type of ball. If he was even just a normal 1st pick of the draft his expectations would be lower. Now both QBs have won two big games and lead them to upset wins to get the their respective Conference Championships. I'd easily put Eli in the top 15 Qbs in the league, simply bc he gets his team to the playoffs EVERY year and is pretty damn durable. Hell, he was drafted in 04 so in terms of development, he's also shown he can adapt, is becoming a leader (as the old guard continues to leave and lose their voice/Shockey/Barber) and truth be told is better since Coughlin stopped trying to go deep on every play. In fact, I'd argue that Coughlin had the most to do with hurting Eli's game in the past. It seems he's found the right mix, and to say Eli hasn't been huge in these playoffs would simply be wrong. There hasn't been one big receiver, one big back or any player of interest carrying them so far. Yet if any could be named it's Manning, Toomer and some D really stepping up. However, I'd rather the team stand tall vs. that of one player. Now GB can't key on just Plex or Toomer, they have to prepare for a team. I think you're WAY off on this and a lot of the topics you bring up here.

[spoon]

You're a dolt. You talk how Jets games are "boring". You also keep harping on how Namath shouldn't be in the HOF, when I've proven you wrong on that. Ugh. It's like banging my head into a wall.

Oh God! Please inform me how Joe Namath deserves bc I for one am not convinced one bit. If we only need image, one title or a fur coat to get in, we'll have to do this whole thing over. He DOESN'T deserve to be in. His CAREER was really good, with SOME great years, but he's NOT a HOF QB sorry.

His comp % is just 50%, record is 77-108-3, threw for 173 TDS (very light) versus 220 Interceptions (terrible ratio) for an averaverage of only 197 yards per game. Hell, in his 13 year career guess how many years he threw for more TDS versus Ints? Two, that's right two. I'm sorry, one Super Bowl a few gay cover shots, a fur coat and arrogance doesn't get you in with those stats if you ask me. Let me hear your argument though, as I'd be interested as to how you claim he's worthy.

[Snoogans]

Next time you try to talk trash, at least get it fucking right. It's Doug Brien you're referring.

I wasnt referring to anyone. just pointing out shitty kickers the jets had. Learn how to read what other people say intstead of pretending it says what will make your point

[Snoogans]

The facts remain clear - it's not so much Eli outplayed the Cowboys, it's that the cowboys FAILED.

I will give Eli credit - that drive in the end of the first half showed flashes of brilliance. BUT HE IS NOT A HIGH CALIBER QB YET.




You're a dolt. You talk how Jets games are "boring". You also keep harping on how Namath shouldn't be in the HOF, when I've proven you wrong on that. Ugh. It's like banging my head into a wall.

ok you put one article from a chicago newspaper. how about the fact that there was a HUGE headline/picture with Eli and some awful caption about him basically being the man now. Go read the fluff piece on him and favre. You are just wrong

and how have you PROVEN ME WRONG on namath being in the hall? Says fuckin who? Again ill do this. This is going to be the third time I've posted this, so seriously, when did you prove me wrong:

Year Age Tm Pos G GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk%
Career 129 110 2110 3602 58.6 25094 128 3.6 98 2.7 96 7.0 6.1 11.9 194.5 80.4 353 2654 5.7 4.9 8.9 Ken O'Brien

Career 140 130 1886 3762 50.1 27663 173 4.6 220 5.8 91 7.4 5.2 14.7 197.6 65.5 109 1052 6.9 4.8 2.8 Joe Namath

[Gvac]

The Giants are gay!



That's all I have to say about that.

[Snoogans]

that comes out not great, but basically, namath is pretty equal to ken obrien. That isnt HOF to me. You havent proved one point to anyone other then the fact that you are a JETS homer to the BDC Yankee level. You might even know less about sports then BDC after reading the shit you actually posted in here. Just nonsense

[Bossanova]

Giants eat a fat dick, and Namath is over rated.

[furie]

got to pull for Favre

[Hottub]

Actually, No I don't.

[Bulldogcakes]

I'M TENBATS AND I NEED TO START A THREAD ABOUT MYSELF SO PEOPLE WILL TALK ABOUT ME EVEN THOUGH I MADE UP MY MIND BEFORE I HIT "POST."

I think the hatred makes perfect sense, just as much in football as any other sport. You're rasied to root for one team...anyone else is the enemy, especially the other local teams. Who cares if they don't play each other that often? How do baseball rivalries make more sense when teams have been doing the interdivisional thing for less than 15 years now?

It's like gangs scrapping over the same territory. You can only join one and wish destruction on the rest.

Its really pointless, if your main concern is winning. The Cubs and the ChiSox don't compete with each other in any real sense for anything baseball wise. Different league altogether. Unless you want to count playing interleague a few games a year, and that more of a fan thing than a baseball thing. Those games count as much as playing the Marlin as far as the Cubs are concerned.

To me, divisional rivals I can understand hating. Yanks-RedSox. Cubs-Cards. Giants-Dodgers. That makes sense, because you compete with them directly in very meaningful divisional games. Games that can decide who gets into the playoffs or not. But the crosstown teams I don't get. Do I root for the Mets? No, but I wish them well. Most of my family are Mets fans. I wish them well, until they play the Yanks. Then I want to sweep the motherfuckers.

[Bossanova]

Its really pointless, if your main concern is winning. The Cubs and the ChiSox don't compete with each other in any real sense for anything baseball wise. Different league altogether. Unless you want to count playing interleague a few games a year, and that more of a fan thing than a baseball thing. Those games count as much as playing the Marlin as far as the Cubs are concerned.

To me, divisional rivals I can understand hating. Yanks-RedSox. Cubs-Cards. Giants-Dodgers. That makes sense, because you compete with them directly in very meaningful divisional games. Games that can decide who gets into the playoffs or not. But the crosstown teams I don't get. Do I root for the Mets? No, but I wish them well. Most of my family are Mets fans. I wish them well, until they play the Yanks. Then I want to sweep the motherfuckers.

I root for the Mets and wish death on the Yankees every day. When the Mets collapse and the Yankees go to the playoffs, I still wish death. I pull for no other team, I just watch the sport because I love it. I have nop horse in the rest of the playoffs, but I know I hate the Giants, Packers and Patriots, but that doesn't mean I have to root for the Chargers

[TheMojoPin]

Its really pointless, if your main concern is winning. The Cubs and the ChiSox don't compete with each other in any real sense for anything baseball wise. Different league altogether. Unless you want to count playing interleague a few games a year, and that more of a fan thing than a baseball thing. Those games count as much as playing the Marlin as far as the Cubs are concerned.

To me, divisional rivals I can understand hating. Yanks-RedSox. Cubs-Cards. Giants-Dodgers. That makes sense, because you compete with them directly in very meaningful divisional games. Games that can decide who gets into the playoffs or not. But the crosstown teams I don't get. Do I root for the Mets? No, but I wish them well. Most of my family are Mets fans. I wish them well, until they play the Yanks. Then I want to sweep the motherfuckers.

I definitely place more stock in divisional rivalries, but the local stuff has always been something I've just felt when it comes to the White Sox and the Cubs. It's not a matter of them actualy playing each other (though now they do)...it's just more for who has bragging rights for Chicago being "their" town. It's not just the teams themselves...it's indicative often of where you are in the city, where your family is from, your social status, your economic status, your identity, etc., etc.. Just rooting for anyone from your city or opting to vote for another local team even temporarily seems incredibly wishy-washy and disingenuous. Pick a team and stick with them and everyone else be damned.

[Heather 8]

You already know my answer, Matty.

[TheMojoPin]

I root for the Mets and wish death on the Yankees every day. When the Mets collapse and the Yankees go to the playoffs, I still wish death. I pull for no other team, I just watch the sport because I love it. I have nop horse in the rest of the playoffs, but I know I hate the Giants, Packers and Patriots, but that doesn't mean I have to root for the Chargers

Exactly. Why do we NEED to root for a team if ours is out?

[Tenbatsuzen]

You already know my answer, Matty.

What does Stevie Richards covered in baby oil have to do with this?!

[Hottub]

What does Chrono Chris covered in baby oil have to do with this?!


:clap::wub:

[Tenbatsuzen]

ok you put one article from a chicago newspaper. how about the fact that there was a HUGE headline/picture with Eli and some awful caption about him basically being the man now. Go read the fluff piece on him and favre. You are just wrong

and how have you PROVEN ME WRONG on namath being in the hall? Says fuckin who? Again ill do this. This is going to be the third time I've posted this, so seriously, when did you prove me wrong:

Year Age Tm Pos G GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk%
Career 129 110 2110 3602 58.6 25094 128 3.6 98 2.7 96 7.0 6.1 11.9 194.5 80.4 353 2654 5.7 4.9 8.9 Ken O'Brien

Career 140 130 1886 3762 50.1 27663 173 4.6 220 5.8 91 7.4 5.2 14.7 197.6 65.5 109 1052 6.9 4.8 2.8 Joe Namath

You're using a QB who played in an ENTIRELY different era than Namath.

Compare Namath to the HOF QBs that played at the time or in the years before him, and you'll see my point.

Every single Super Bowl winning QB with the exception of Earl Morral for the first 10 SBs made the HOF.

Namath had intangibles that helped lead to the merger. You bring up the fur coat, but what you don't understand is that at the time, NO OTHER PLAYER IN THE NFL WAS LIKE THAT.

[Heather 8]

I hate you both.

[Thebazile78]

Exactly. Why do we NEED to root for a team if ours is out?

So I don't ask which team he's rooting for 5 million times each commercial break.

Duh.

[spoon]

I root for the Mets and wish death on the Yankees every day. When the Mets collapse and the Yankees go to the playoffs, I still wish death. I pull for no other team, I just watch the sport because I love it. I have nop horse in the rest of the playoffs, but I know I hate the Giants, Packers and Patriots, but that doesn't mean I have to root for the Chargers

I definitely place more stock in divisional rivalries, but the local stuff has always been something I've just felt when it comes to the White Sox and the Cubs. It's not a matter of them actualy playing each other (though now they do)...it's just more for who has bragging rights for Chicago being "their" town. It's not just the teams themselves...it's indicative often of where you are in the city, where your family is from, your social status, your economic status, your identity, etc., etc.. Just rooting for anyone from your city or opting to vote for another local team even temporarily seems incredibly wishy-washy and disingenuous. Pick a team and stick with them and everyone else be damned.

U guys nailed it here so I have very little to add. I will say that I'll pull more for the team I HATE LESS, but that's as far as I'll go. For example, I'll root for ANYONE over the yanks or red wings.....ANYONE! I'd pull for a Russian team backed by the Chinese under age workers alliance over either of those fucking teams any day of the week.

[scottinnj]

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[A.J.]

Oh God! Please inform me how Joe Namath deserves bc I for one am not convinced one bit. If we only need image, one title or a fur coat to get in, we'll have to do this whole thing over. He DOESN'T deserve to be in. His CAREER was really good, with SOME great years, but he's NOT a HOF QB sorry.

His comp % is just 50%, record is 77-108-3, threw for 173 TDS (very light) versus 220 Interceptions (terrible ratio) for an averaverage of only 197 yards per game. Hell, in his 13 year career guess how many years he threw for more TDS versus Ints? Two, that's right two. I'm sorry, one Super Bowl a few gay cover shots, a fur coat and arrogance doesn't get you in with those stats if you ask me. Let me hear your argument though, as I'd be interested as to how you claim he's worthy.

Well, he DID throw that touchdown pass to Bobby Brady.

[Snacks]

Oh God! Please inform me how Joe Namath deserves bc I for one am not convinced one bit. If we only need image, one title or a fur coat to get in, we'll have to do this whole thing over. He DOESN'T deserve to be in. His CAREER was really good, with SOME great years, but he's NOT a HOF QB sorry.

His comp % is just 50%, record is 77-108-3, threw for 173 TDS (very light) versus 220 Interceptions (terrible ratio) for an averaverage of only 197 yards per game. Hell, in his 13 year career guess how many years he threw for more TDS versus Ints? Two, that's right two. I'm sorry, one Super Bowl a few gay cover shots, a fur coat and arrogance doesn't get you in with those stats if you ask me. Let me hear your argument though, as I'd be interested as to how you claim he's worthy.

I said the exact same thing in a thread about this a couple of years ago. Namath has no business being in the HOF for the reasons spoon stated above. ESPN did a story on the hall of fame and writers/experts said he is the #1 Hall of Famer that doesnt deserve to be in it. He was shit, he didnt guarantee anything he said it in jest and like the media always does they turned it into a guarantee. In this case the media helped his ass. And most importantly he didnt even win the SB, the defense and the running back did.

As for watching Jets games. They are the most boring teams to watch. One thing I hate about living in jersey is we are forced to watch the Jets. Every sunday of every season my cousin and I talk on sunday and one of the 1st things we talk about is how we a re forced to watch the shitty jets and always wish we had the football package.

They did play in the best MNF of all time against Miami. I was at the game and Miami was killing them by halftime so I left and went to a gogo bar. When we walked in the door the game was just about tied. My fav team is Miami and the Jets made a great come back to win but thats it. I would rather do anything else then watch the Jets play.

[Freitag]

"He's not Tom Brady." "He's not making his typical mistakes. That's the reason why the Giants are where they are." "The media should not be pumping him up like this. He's confident, yes, but not great."

- Boomer Esiason, WFAN, 1/15/08.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

" Chad Pennington is a half a fag who will never be a successful QB"

King Hippos Bandaid ronfez.net 1/15/08

[Earlshog]

Carton is an unlistenable douche, find a new partner.

Earlshog 1/15/08

[Tall_James]

Tom Brady meets Phillip Rivers' girlfriend...

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c174/cheeseeatingbird/brady.gif

[cougarjake13]

"He's not Tom Brady." "He's not making his typical mistakes. That's the reason why the Giants are where they are." "The media should not be pumping him up like this. He's confident, yes, but not great."

- Boomer Esiason, WFAN, 1/15/08.

we dont need him to be brady

just a dilfer or a brad johnson

[Snoogans]

"He's not Tom Brady." "He's not making his typical mistakes. That's the reason why the Giants are where they are." "The media should not be pumping him up like this. He's confident, yes, but not great."

- Boomer Esiason, WFAN, 1/15/08.

so this is the second person in the country you found not lapping Manning's balls. Is that supposed to prove a point. Watch 7 minutes of ESPN from yesterday or sunday night and you will see 80 people lapping his balls.

The main point is, do you not see how pathetic you are coming off. I will never again take anything you say seriously after you tried to compare a regular season jets win to a SB game. Even if you say something that happens to be correct, we all know its only cause you got lucky or heard someone who was correct say it. You are awful and no nothing about sports.

And who decided boomer is an authority on all things NFL now? Why cause he played? How is that working for Isiah Thomas' opinions on things. SHUT UP

[EliManning]

I think I am better then Chad Pennington.

[BillBelichick]

I think I am better then Chad Pennington.

I've know Chad Pennington. I've coached against Chad Pennington.





You're no Chad Pennington.

[EliManning]

I've know Chad Pennington. I've coached against Chad Pennington.





You're no Chad Pennington.

Because I can throw?

[BillBelichick]

Because I can throw?

Because you're a stupid overthrowing faggot.

[EliManning]

Because you're a stupid overthrowing faggot.

You shouldnt say those type of things when you have a sweet guy like Wes Welker on your team. That would be very hurtful to him. And for the record, I believe Matt Cassel to be a better QB then Chad Pennington.

[BillBelichick]

You shouldnt say those type of things when you have a sweet guy like Wes Welker on your team. That would be very hurtful to him. And for the record, I believe Matt Cassel to be a better QB then Chad Pennington.

Wes Welker is a useful faggot. You are useless faggot.

[MattCassel]

You shouldnt say those type of things when you have a sweet guy like Wes Welker on your team. That would be very hurtful to him. And for the record, I believe Matt Cassel to be a better QB then Chad Pennington.

Gee, Eli, you really think so?????

[MattCassel]

Wes Welker is a useful faggot. You are useless faggot.

What kinda faggot am I?

[BillBelichick]

Gee, Eli, you really think so?????

WHAT ARE YOU DOING OUT OF TOM BRADY'S ASSHOLE!!!! GET BACK IN THERE!!!!!!!!

[BillBelichick]

What kinda faggot am I?

An ass spelunking faggot. NOW GET BACK IN THERE!!!!!!!!!!!1

[EliManning]

You really are a mean guy, Mr Bellichick

[BillBelichick]

You really are a mean guy, Mr Bellichick

I win Super Bowls. You throw picks and pretend to care. Go fuck yourself.

[RodneyHarrison]

Rodney Harrison think Eli Manning throw perfect passes. Perfect passes that make their way right to Rodney Harrison

[Neckbeard]

Dudes, I totally would have won a couple of Super Bowls if it weren't for coach benching me for that Vulcan-looking midget.

PUT ORTON IN THE GAME, COACH! PUT ORTON IN!

[BillBelichick]

I'm rooting for the Colts in the NFC championship. I'm pissed I missed a chance to rape that mongoloid again.

[EliManning]

I'm rooting for the Colts in the NFC championship. I'm pissed I missed a chance to rape that mongoloid again.

Mr Belichick, again you havent payed attention. My mongoloid brother lost. I am the Manning who is in the Championship game.

[Neckbeard]

Eli, bro, wanna go out for some brews and bitches?

[EliManning]

Eli, bro, wanna go out for some brews and bitches?

Brews I'm down for. I know this great bar called Feathers. We can go and then you can crash at my place in the Old Tea Building in Hoboken

[BillBelichick]

Mr Belichick, again you havent payed attention. My mongoloid brother lost. I am the Manning who is in the Championship game.

You what?




ha



hahaha






HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA



THIS IS BETTER THAN MARTY!!!!!!!!!!! I think I'll give the whole roster off on Super Bowl Sunday and field a squad of Special Olympics athletes.

[Neckbeard]

Brews I'm down for. I know this great bar called Feathers. We can go and then you can crash at my place in the Old Tea Building in Hoboken

DUDE, ALRIGHT! We're gonna get so much ass!

[BillBelichick]

Eli, bro, wanna go out for some brews and bitches?

Brews I'm down for. I know this great bar called Feathers. We can go and then you can crash at my place in the Old Tea Building in Hoboken

I can't wait to see the retarded, overthrowing, neckbearded football monstrosity you two girls spawn.

[EliManning]

DUDE, ALRIGHT! We're gonna get so much ass!

Yea they have this REALLY cute bartender there. His name is Rickey, and he loves beards too!!!!

[Neckbeard]

...

What?

I don't overthrow. That would require arm strength. Arm strength that might interfere with my Jack drinking.

[Neckbeard]

Yea they have this REALLY cute bartender there. His name is Rickey, and he loves beards too!!!!

Dude, you said "he" by mistake. It's cool, though. I dig chicks with dude names.

[EliManning]

Dude, you said "he" by mistake. It's cool, though. I dig chicks with dude names.

Actually he is a dude in chicks clothes. But whatever, right

[BillBelichick]

...

What?

I don't overthrow. That would require arm strength. Arm strength that might interfere with my Jack drinking.

That other faggot has to add something to the kid.

WHY AM I TALKING TO YOU?!?!?! YOU ARE STINKY MCNECKBEARDFACE AND I AM FOOTBALL PERFECTION GIVEN HUMAN FORM. BE GONE YEE!!!!!

[Neckbeard]

Hey! MY BEARD IS CLEAN!!!

[EliManning]

Hey! MY BEARD IS CLEAN!!!

Sorry, then, Kyle. Eli likes his men dirty

[Neckbeard]

There's another Eli here?!?

[EliManning]

There's another Eli here?!?

No. LOL, I was tryin to copy Rodney Harrison. But you saw right through it. Maybe you are the man for me......Dont tell Wes

[Neckbeard]

Can you find out where your brother gets his hair cut like an autistic 6-year-old? I might try rocking that look.

[EliManning]

Glad they missed this one

[WesWelker]

I'm a sad gay boy.

[EliManning]

I can be with both, Wes. I mean it. DONT GO

[WesWelker]

I can be with both, Wes. I mean it. DONT GO

Tommy said before the season I could eat his ass if I broke 100 tackles. I'm only two away! I can't bail yet.

Bet your jealous.

[EliManning]

Tommy said before the season I could eat his ass if I broke 100 tackles. I'm only two away! I can't bail yet.

Bet your jealous.


Uhh, I'm a top

[Neckbeard]

Bros, this is some HEAVY SHIT.

[WesWelker]

Uhh, I'm a top

I'm whatever Tommy wants me to be.

[RodneyHarrison]

You bes not go over the middle in practice, Wes. Rodney Harrison be waitin

[cougarjake13]

funny shit here man