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ScottFromGA

09-07-2008, 03:15 PM

Pussy, Money, and Racecars.....man what a life. I have dreamed of that kinda life since I was a child. Growing up around dirtcars, I know how this man feels about the love he has for racing. The cars now may be ugly and race like shit, but won't give up on them cause I have a sheer love for motorsports......They are a helluva lot better now than they were 1 year ago.

cougarjake13

09-08-2008, 12:32 PM

led37zep

09-14-2008, 10:58 AM

Kyles day hasn't started off so well...already a lap down with some sway bar issues.

or "broken bolt" as they are reporting.

led37zep

09-14-2008, 01:09 PM

How many races this year have boiled down to "do we have enough fuel to make it?"

Seems the only one with enough fuel to make it is Smoke unless we get a few more yellows.

I'm still pulling for Biffle tho.

Tenbatsuzen

09-14-2008, 02:48 PM

To see Kyle's "insurmountable" lead vanish in one race... awesome.

disneyspy

09-14-2008, 03:28 PM

To see Kyle's "insurmountable" lead vanish in one race... awesome.

QFT,i cant believe i just agreed with tenbats
GO HARVICK

cougarjake13

09-15-2008, 02:04 PM

To see Kyle's "insurmountable" lead vanish in one race... awesome.

thats the beauty of the race for the chase

Tenbatsuzen

09-15-2008, 02:06 PM

thats the beauty of the race for the chase

And here's the cool thing: They are putting 'Dega in the Chase next year. Which means that The Big One can become The Really, Really Big One

cougarjake13

09-15-2008, 03:07 PM

And here's the cool thing: They are putting 'Dega in the Chase next year. Which means that The Big One can become The Really, Really Big One

thats awesome

i know they'll never move daytona but imagine if the last 2 races were talledega and daytona ??

scottinnj

09-15-2008, 04:58 PM

thank you you dirty iggles fan

Ha Ha! I like this boneheaded author-

Talladega superspeedway. The Wimbledon of American motor sports. Set plum in the center of the lower heartland, near Atlanta.

Talladega-near Atlanta. That's rich! It's 115 miles, douche. That's like saying Giants Stadium is near Wildwood, NJ.

scottinnj

09-15-2008, 05:00 PM

To see Kyle's "insurmountable" lead vanish in one race... awesome.

That was a thing of beauty.

scottinnj

09-15-2008, 05:03 PM

And here's the cool thing: They are putting 'Dega in the Chase next year. Which means that The Big One can become The Really, Really Big One

It's in the Chase. Next week is Dover, then Kansas, and Talladega is October 5th.

nevnut

09-15-2008, 06:15 PM

It's in the Chase. Next week is Dover, then Kansas, and Talladega is October 5th.

I think it's totally awesome.

I'm goin out on a limb here and predicting that 'Dega will be one of Jr's wins in the chase this year along with at least one other win.

It's probably the only way he can win the championship.

Tenbatsuzen

09-15-2008, 06:53 PM

It's in the Chase. Next week is Dover, then Kansas, and Talladega is October 5th.

What the hell is wrong with me. Talladega's been in the Chase since the inception. I'm stupid.

disneyspy

09-15-2008, 07:19 PM

What the hell is wrong with me. Talladega's been in the Chase since the inception. I'm stupid.

QFT AGAIN! i cant believe how much i agree with tenbats in this thread
its scary
GO HARVICK!

scottinnj

09-15-2008, 07:19 PM

What the hell is wrong with me. Talladega's been in the Chase since the inception. I'm stupid.

I like the suggestion of ending the season at Daytona, not Homestead. Homestead, Fla is a nice track, but that could be put somewhere else in the schedule during the season. Maybe get rid of going to Cali twice in the season, or that Louden track.

ScottFromGA

09-15-2008, 07:23 PM

And here's the cool thing: They are putting 'Dega in the Chase next year. Which means that The Big One can become The Really, Really Big One

Dega is already in the Chase....:unsure:

nevnut

09-15-2008, 07:25 PM

I like the suggestion of ending the season at Daytona, not Homestead. Homestead, Fla is a nice track, but that could be put somewhere else in the schedule during the season. Maybe get rid of going to Cali twice in the season, or that Louden track.

Don't think you'll ever see the season beginning and ending at Daytona although that would be very sweet.

disneyspy

09-15-2008, 07:26 PM

id like to see the daytona races be the 1st and last.went to a firecracker 400 race back in the 70s and got heatstroke.july in daytona is too hot.feb and nov are just right

scottinnj

09-15-2008, 07:29 PM

id like to see the daytona races be the 1st and last.went to a firecracker 400 race back in the 70s and got heatstroke.july in daytona is too hot.feb and nov are just right

You got that right. Go there during testing in January, its downright chilly.

scottinnj

09-21-2008, 11:54 AM

Right now, approaching the halfway point at Dover, I'll be happy if Dale finishes on the lead lap.

That car was horrible going in, and those tires are just completely useless.

scottinnj

09-21-2008, 11:56 AM

But it's still sweet watching Kyle's car get pushed into the garage. Meltdown in the Chase-I knew they'd choke.

scottinnj

09-21-2008, 12:07 PM

I posted that with 175 laps in, figuring we'd reach the halfway point in 5-10 minutes.

Four cautions later, we're still 12 laps to the halfway point.

scottinnj

09-21-2008, 12:16 PM

Tenbatsuzen

09-21-2008, 12:36 PM

195 to go, and Dale's car is horrible. It's like they put tires on that have 50 psi on the last stop, and they're just spinning out everytime he hits the gas coming out of the corners. Just awful-you can't win championships with setups like this at short tracks.

Another reason why Rick needs to step up and get Tony Jr. out of there.

The only reason Jr. won earlier this year is because of dumb, stupid luck.

Dale Doesn't say much and Tony Jr. doesn't ask the right questions.

And see Kyle 43rd is just awesome beyond words.

cougarjake13

09-22-2008, 03:27 PM

But it's still sweet watching Kyle's car get pushed into the garage. Meltdown in the Chase-I knew they'd choke.

havent watched much of the races but are they choking or is it bad luck, ie accidents and such

Jughead

09-22-2008, 03:45 PM

havent watched much of the races but are they choking or is it bad luck, ie accidents and such

Lose sway Bar last week caused him to wreck in the first few laps.............. Engine failure yesterday....43rd...

cougarjake13

09-24-2008, 04:40 PM

Lose sway Bar last week caused him to wreck in the first few laps.............. Engine failure yesterday....43rd...

wonder if he doesnt win the championship if he cry about the new format

scottinnj

09-27-2008, 08:08 AM

Wow! Lot's of non-Chase drivers starting in the top 12 for Kansas.

JPM won the pole but got put at the back for an illegal shock absorber setup.

Mark Martin-2nd
Elliot Sadler-4th
Martin Truex Jr.-5th
Paul Menard-6th
Bill Elliot-7th
Kasey Kahne-8th
Brian Vickers-9th
Casey Mears-10th
David Ragan-12th

Looks like it will be an interesting race points wise.

cougarjake13

09-28-2008, 02:04 PM

johnson beats edwards for the win

he's looking good for the 3 peat

scottinnj

09-28-2008, 04:30 PM

johnson beats edwards for the win

he's looking good for the 3 peat

I'm not a big Jimmie Johnson fan, but a three-peat is awesome (only done once before by Cale Yarborough) and that would give big respect points from me to Johnson.

RickMcCrank47

09-28-2008, 04:49 PM

o0oof.....its hard to be a stewart fan right now....

scottinnj

10-03-2008, 09:56 PM

Dale had a blowout and it totally destroyed the car.

Backup car, and Back of the Field.

This Chase sucks.

Goodyear = Fuckos.

PapaBear

10-03-2008, 10:01 PM

Dale had a blowout and it totally destroyed the car.

Backup car, and Back of the Field.

This Chase sucks.

Goodyear = Fuckos.
Before that, he blew the engine. He still would have been in the back. Goodyear got lucky.

scottinnj

10-03-2008, 10:26 PM

Before that, he blew the engine. He still would have been in the back. Goodyear got lucky.

But it's two tires in the last three races. He blew the same passenger rear tire at Dover.

That car must be setup soooooooo bad.

PapaBear

10-03-2008, 10:30 PM

But it's two tires in the last three races. He blew the same passenger rear tire at Dover.

That car must be setup soooooooo bad.
I'm a huge Dale fan, but he probably shouldn't be driving with a passenger. That can really mess up the setup.:tongue:

Yeah. The tires really have sucked this year (and in recent years). But I don't see a change coming any time soon.

scottinnj

10-03-2008, 10:37 PM

I'd like to see them widen the tire for the new car. Or allow more shock pressure.
Or maybe let Cooper back in. I don't know. I just read Goodyear is saying it was a puncture, but the tire is supposed to be designed to prevent an explosion like that. Dude, you see the video? The whole back of the car disintegrated.

cougarjake13

10-04-2008, 01:47 PM

kvapil on the pole

http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/cup/startingGrid?gameId=20081005041

ScottFromGA

10-05-2008, 02:51 PM

HIGHWAY ROBBERY

Regan Smith was robbed.....flat and simple.

Tenbatsuzen

10-05-2008, 03:23 PM

HIGHWAY ROBBERY

Regan Smith was robbed.....flat and simple.

I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am

Tenbatsuzen

10-05-2008, 03:25 PM

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081005/capt.32955a9c1e114d57b9c4dd128f378f74.nascar_talla dega_auto_racing_aldm113.jpg?x=294&y=345&q=85&sig=SDw7QUqGXAgMR9Z2b168DQ--

disneyspy

10-05-2008, 04:25 PM

Tenbatsuzen

10-05-2008, 07:13 PM

Dale had a blowout and it totally destroyed the car.

Backup car, and Back of the Field.

This Chase sucks.

Goodyear = Fuckos.

Scott, I know it's a day late and a dollar short, but at a track like Dega, it simply does not matter where you start.

scottinnj

10-06-2008, 02:14 PM

HIGHWAY ROBBERY

Regan Smith was robbed.....flat and simple.

No way, he wasn't forced down by Tony, he went down towards the line to pass, Tony blocked him and he kept going down and went below the line and made the pass.

scottinnj

10-06-2008, 02:16 PM

Scott, I know it's a day late and a dollar short, but at a track like Dega, it simply does not matter where you start.

Yep, you're right. Absolutely. It just sucked the primary car got whacked like it did.

cougarjake13

10-06-2008, 02:52 PM

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081005/capt.32955a9c1e114d57b9c4dd128f378f74.nascar_talla dega_auto_racing_aldm113.jpg?x=294&y=345&q=85&sig=SDw7QUqGXAgMR9Z2b168DQ--

congrats smoke !!

scottinnj

10-07-2008, 02:20 PM

Foxsports on MSN.com is reporting "racetracks" are getting some help in the bill. (http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/8640660/Federal-bailout-bill-includes-tax-break-for-racetracks)

In the portion of the bill related to auto racing, racetracks will be treated similar to amusement parks and other entertainment complexes for tax purposes, according to a report in the Miami Herald. As a result, capital investments like new concession stands and other improvements could be written off over a seven-year period. Without the provision, racetrack owners would have had to write off investments over 15 years per the IRS, making improvements more expensive over the short term.

I don't understand how the difference of 7 years to 15 years makes the improvements more expensive though. Anyone in business who can explain that would be a help.
But there you have it! Is this a good thing, or a bad thing, or is it something that could have been done with the tax code at a later time, or was it needed now?

scottinnj

10-07-2008, 02:24 PM

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081005/capt.32955a9c1e114d57b9c4dd128f378f74.nascar_talla dega_auto_racing_aldm113.jpg?x=294&y=345&q=85&sig=SDw7QUqGXAgMR9Z2b168DQ--

Congrats to Tony for the WIN at 'Dega, and for pulling the Army sponsorship from DEI (http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/cup/10/07/rnewman.sponsor/index.html)to Sewart-Haas Racing for Newman's car.

cougarjake13

10-07-2008, 05:33 PM

Foxsports on MSN.com is reporting "racetracks" are getting some help in the bill. (http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/8640660/Federal-bailout-bill-includes-tax-break-for-racetracks)

I don't understand how the difference of 7 years to 15 years makes the improvements more expensive though. Anyone in business who can explain that would be a help.
But there you have it! Is this a good thing, or a bad thing, or is it something that could have been done with the tax code at a later time, or was it needed now?

im not in business but i think i know the answer

lets say its costs 1 million to make new concession stands

if you divide that million over 15 years thats less money you can write off per year versus the same amount of money over only 7 years

Tenbatsuzen

10-07-2008, 06:56 PM

Congrats to Tony for the WIN at 'Dega, and for pulling the Army sponsorship from DEI (http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/cup/10/07/rnewman.sponsor/index.html)to Sewart-Haas Racing for Newman's car.

That's hysterical. One of the reasons Mark Martin was shown the door at DEI is because they wanted someone younger for the sponsor. So they get Amirola, and what happens? Army leaves. BAHAHAHAHAH

Seriously, I'm glad Truex didn't sign a long term deal. He's biding his time.

scottinnj

10-07-2008, 07:16 PM

if you divide that million over 15 years thats less money you can write off per year versus the same amount of money over only 7 years

Got it. I was thinking the opposite way. You could use the write off for a longer period of time, but you're right-the money you'd save in taxes in the short run would help to pay off the improvement faster, so it will have more time spent in service making a profit instead of just paying for itself.

scottinnj

10-11-2008, 09:54 PM

A DNF at Talladega and a 36th place finish Saturday at Lowe's were pretty much the last two nails in the "not gonna be a champion again" coffin.

At least he was riding the wall when the tire blew, or else he could have been hurt like Denny was last week.

All in all, a great first year with HMS, though. I'm looking forward to seeing how much better he is going to get next year.

cougarjake13

10-12-2008, 11:16 AM

cougarjake13

10-12-2008, 11:19 AM

RANK +/- DRIVER POINTS BEHIND

1 -- Jimmie Johnson 5878
2 +2 Jeff Burton 5809 -69
3 -- Greg Biffle 5792 -86 31
4 -2 Carl Edwards 5710 -168
5 -- Clint Bowyer 5693 -185
6 -- Kevin Harvick 5671 -207
7 -- Tony Stewart 5650 -228
8 -- Jeff Gordon 5633 -245
9 +2 Kyle Busch 5552 -326
10 -- Dale Earnhardt Jr. 5524 -354
11 -2 Matt Kenseth 5518 -360
12 -- Denny Hamlin 5498 -380

scottinnj

10-12-2008, 06:16 PM

not to stir any shit up but is it possible that maybe jimmie and jeff get the better cars, set ups, etc ??

i know they'll say they all get the same stuff

Not really, I think Chad Knaus is a better crew chief then Tony Eury Jr. or Steve Latarte. And there have only been a few races Dale did bad at this season you can blame it on the setup. One was the last Dover race.

Dega he got wrecked and at Lowes his tire blew and he went into the wall.

Jeff was struggling a lot this year though, and still hasn't gotten a win all season, which looks weird after winning 5 races last season.

ScottFromGA

10-17-2008, 12:07 PM

means Letarte didn't do his homework in the offseason....Hendrick being so dominant, he probably didn't think he had to do anything to make himself faster with the rest of the field.

on a side note, just got my confirmation for Cold Passes and Suite Passes to next sundays Atlanta race....woohoo!! Never had Cold Passes before!:clap::clap::clap::clap: I've been to Club One, the Suites in turn 3 and in the pits numerous times....never in the garage though, I'm so excited!!

and I'm going on Standard Products Inc.'s Tab!! FREE FREE FREE RULES!!

cougarjake13

10-18-2008, 09:30 AM

man ihate when qualifying gets rained out

it kinda screws things up and gives the advantage to the guys higher in the standings

scottinnj

10-26-2008, 03:51 PM

Well, you can blame Dale going from sixth to eleventh all on Dale.

"I'm tight!"

"Caution's out"

"I'm staying out."

Tenbatsuzen

10-26-2008, 04:04 PM

Well, you can blame Dale going from sixth to eleventh all on Dale.

"I'm tight!"

"Caution's out"

"I'm staying out."

...he really did that? I didn't pay attention to the race at ALL today.

cougarjake13

10-26-2008, 05:38 PM

edwards wins johnson increases lead

RANK +/- DRIVER POINTS BEHIND STARTS POLES WINS TOP 5 TOP 10
1 -- Jimmie Johnson 6248 Leader 33 5 6 14 21
2 +2 Carl Edwards 6065 -183 33 1 7 16 24
3 -1 Greg Biffle 6063 -185 33 2 2 11 16
4 -1 Jeff Burton 6030 -218 33 0 2 7 17
5 +1 Kevin Harvick 5941 -307 33 0 0 6 16
6 +1 Jeff Gordon 5936 -312 33 3 0 11 17
7 -2 Clint Bowyer 5934 -314 33 0 1 5 15
8 -- Tony Stewart 5847 -401 33 0 1 10 15
9 +1 Matt Kenseth 5835 -413 33 0 0 9 19
10 -1 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 5829 -419 33 1 1 10 15
11 -- Denny Hamlin 5823 -425 33 1 1 11 17
12 -- Kyle Busch 5783 -465 33 2 8 17 19

scottinnj

10-26-2008, 06:11 PM

...he really did that? I didn't pay attention to the race at ALL today.

Oh yeah. At the caution that came out at about 37 laps left.

Great race, but that team can't seal the deal, and it's not always Tony's fault at the end.

Tenbatsuzen

10-26-2008, 06:16 PM

Oh yeah. At the caution that came out at about 37 laps left.

Great race, but that team can't seal the deal, and it's not always Tony's fault at the end.

If it's 60 percent Tony, 20 percent Garage, and 20 percent Dale, the problem still lies to Tony.

scottinnj

10-26-2008, 06:36 PM

If it's 60 percent Tony, 20 percent Garage, and 20 percent Dale, the problem still lies to Tony.

Agreed. I'd love to see him move to car chief next season.

J.Clints

10-27-2008, 03:57 AM

I could Easly make a Change for Next season to the 99

ScottFromGA

10-27-2008, 06:14 AM

Agreed. I'd love to see him move to car chief next season.

I've said it for years, he will never win a championship with his cousin being his crew chief. Too many variables to go wrong while working with family....sounds like this team is falling apart at the seams.

Also can't blame Tony too much when Junior drives the car into the damn wall in the turns.

and I don't wanna hear "He has too look for a line to run to make his car turn" argument...believe me, I know ALL about racing around in the high line.....if the car isn't turning, you move up the track to find a groove that will help the car and then you still hit the wall, thats the drivers fault.

cougarjake13

10-27-2008, 05:56 PM

Agreed. I'd love to see him move to car chief next season.

what the hell is a car chief ??

scottinnj

10-27-2008, 07:30 PM

what the hell is a car chief ??

The guy in charge of building them. I could be wrong on the name though. That's what I've heard it called.

scott in georgia, a little help with my terminology?

cougarjake13

11-10-2008, 02:35 PM

is there any chance that someone would be vindictive enough to crash double j out of the race early, thereby giving edwards a chance at the title ??

scottinnj

11-12-2008, 05:24 PM

is there any chance that someone would be vindictive enough to crash double j out of the race early, thereby giving edwards a chance at the title ??

If it's anyone it's Tony. But however it happens it better be early, because all JJ has to do is finish 36th, and Carl still has to win in order for the upset to happen.

Freakshow

11-13-2008, 06:16 AM

Ganassi and DEI are going to merge according to espn.com

Freitag

11-13-2008, 09:44 AM

Ganassi and DEI are going to merge according to espn.com

Good thing Truex only signed for one more year. He bails to hendrick after Mark's done, and it's OVER Johnny.

cougarjake13

11-13-2008, 03:42 PM

If it's anyone it's Tony. But however it happens it better be early, because all JJ has to do is finish 36th, and Carl still has to win in order for the upset to happen.

yeh its a longshot i was more curious to know if anyone would do it

scottinnj

11-14-2008, 09:52 PM

Ganassi and DEI are going to merge according to espn.com

Yeah, I read that too. Dale is spinning in his grave right now.

Tenbatsuzen

11-14-2008, 10:00 PM

Yeah, I read that too. Dale is spinning in his grave right now.

No he's not.

Sr's intention was for Jr. to take over.

It's taking the long road to get there, but when DEI fails, and I'm guessing they WILL fail after 2009, Jr. will pick up the pieces.

cougarjake13

11-15-2008, 08:20 AM

i couldnt be happier that that cunt teresa is failing miserably

scottinnj

11-16-2008, 05:28 PM

i couldnt be happier that that cunt teresa is failing miserably

I'm not. DEI as a company the way Dale created it and wanted it run is no more. Not even Jr. can come back now and restore it to where it was when his dad was alive.

It's over Johnny. And it sucks watching the company of my hero implode the way it is.

scottinnj

11-16-2008, 05:33 PM

From a legend:
http://www.gt350h.com/pearson/yarborough_spoiler.jpg

To the new Three-Peater:
http://www.thefastandthefabulous.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/newyork_chandrajohnson_03.jpg

Congrats to all the JJ fans. Hopefully next year an Earnhardt will get the next Cup.

scottinnj

12-18-2008, 03:56 PM

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- NASCAR has settled a $225 million lawsuit filed by a former official who said she was subjected to racial discrimination and sexual harassment during her two-plus years working for the stock-car organization, The Associated Press has learned.

The suit was settled during a Dec. 3 mediation held in New York between Mauricia Grant and NASCAR. Settlement terms were confidential.

Rest of story HERE (http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/news/story?id=3780335)

scottinnj

12-18-2008, 03:58 PM

Ganassi and DEI are going to merge according to espn.com

And now that it is no longer DEI and now Earnhardt-Ganassi Racing, they will not be racing in the Nationwide Series.

Tenbatsuzen

12-18-2008, 04:10 PM

Rest of story HERE (http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/news/story?id=3780335)

Translation:

She got her money

cougarjake13

12-18-2008, 04:27 PM

Translation:

She got her money

thats why theyre cutting costs

scottinnj

12-18-2008, 04:31 PM

Translation:

She got her money

http://cfgcanada.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/bingo_logo.jpg

Puggle_kicker

12-18-2008, 04:53 PM

nascar discussion.

a bunch of cars went around a fancy circle really fast. they made a lot of left hand turns. someone crashed and i got drunk. then i fucked my sister.

cougarjake13

12-18-2008, 04:54 PM

nascar discussion.

a bunch of cars went around a fancy circle really fast. they made a lot of left hand turns. someone crashed and i got drunk. then i fucked my sister.

that was your choice you didnt have to

Puggle_kicker

12-18-2008, 04:58 PM

Im sorry but I had to. I'll just let myself out now.

:sleep:

scottinnj

12-30-2008, 07:02 PM

Out at GEM racing, Elliot Sadler after having signed a two-year extension earlier in the 2008 season.

Story Here (http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/8994710/Allmendinger-tabbed-to-drive-No.-19-for-GEM)

It's not so much the driver change, because AJ looks like a good fit alongside Kasey Kahne for the GEM organization, but the way George stepped on Ray while he is politely exiting the company by ditching Elliot 2 days before Christmas was a bad move in the eyes of a lot of NASCAR fans.

Elliot was brought in by Ray, and it looks like (according to the NASCAR channel on XM) they'll have to buy out his contract to do this.

Snoogans

12-30-2008, 07:21 PM

that story broke like 4 days ago. Whats wrong, the cable not on in the trailer park?

scottinnj

12-31-2008, 09:17 PM

that story broke like 4 days ago. Whats wrong, the cable not on in the trailer park?

Bwahahahaha!

My dial-up took that long to download the text.

cougarjake13

01-01-2009, 05:22 AM

can double j 4 peat ??

im saying no

kevin harvick will win it this year

scottinnj

01-01-2009, 10:43 AM

can double j 4 peat ??
im saying no
kevin harvick will win it this year

That's a bold statement. If I were going to go with an RCR driver to win it 2009, I'd say it would be Clint Bowyer taking it.

But I think you're right. JJ won't do it again. I'm feeling a Jeff Gordon resurgence after a winter of information sharing at HMS while all the other teams are begging for sponsors.

It's going to be a HMS driver, and I'm hoping for Dale, but probably it will be Jeff.

cougarjake13

01-01-2009, 11:31 AM

That's a bold statement. If I were going to go with an RCR driver to win it 2009, I'd say it would be Clint Bowyer taking it.

But I think you're right. JJ won't do it again. I'm feeling a Jeff Gordon resurgence after a winter of information sharing at HMS while all the other teams are begging for sponsors.

It's going to be a HMS driver, and I'm hoping for Dale, but probably it will be Jeff.

my first thought was clint but i figured thats the easy pick

harvick is my darkhorse pick

Snoogans

01-01-2009, 11:34 AM

Boris Said is gonna win the points championship this year.

He will shock the world with a win at daytona, and continue his dominance all year, even on ovals

BORIS SAID

cougarjake13

01-01-2009, 11:38 AM

Boris Said is gonna win the points championship this year.

He will shock the world with a win at daytona, and continue his dominance all year, even on ovals

BORIS SAID

one problem is he usually only runs the road courses, he doesnt run a full schedule

KnoxHarrington

01-01-2009, 11:46 AM

Dick Trickle's coming out of retirement to shock the world!

PRINT IT

Snoogans

01-01-2009, 11:48 AM

one problem is he usually only runs the road courses, he doesnt run a full schedule

But after he wins daytona and gets locked in you will see what happens when he gets to run the ovals

and knox STOP STEALIN MY BITS

Jamarcus Russel is a great player.....get over it

scottinnj

01-01-2009, 04:28 PM

my first thought was clint but i figured thats the easy pick

harvick is my darkhorse pick

That's a pretty healthy choice for the darkhorse category of picks. He may not be a frontrunner or a favorite among the writers to win a Sprint Cup Championship, but it's not like it's impossible for him either.

Interesting.

ScottFromGA

01-19-2009, 10:42 AM

Neat deal about GEM and Petty Enterprises joining forces.

They even kept the Petty name and now its called RPM for Richard Petty Motorsports. Thats pretty cool, if I may say so myself.

denko

01-25-2009, 07:38 AM

WILD finish in last night toyota all-star showdown in irwindale. last lap (2:20) logano loses it and takes out the leader and goes on to win. i hate joey logano and hope he fails miserably at the cup level.

side note, my cousin john salemi finished dead last after being caught up in a lap 10 incident that also involved steve park.

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Tenbatsuzen

01-25-2009, 10:46 AM

Think it's time for a new thread. La-la-la-la-la-la LOCK IT UP!

cougarjake13

01-25-2009, 12:35 PM

why ??

isnt this thread just fine ??

scottinnj

02-16-2009, 04:43 PM

scottinnj

02-16-2009, 04:46 PM

How 'bout that exciting Daytona 500 finish everybody with a microphone promised us? I thought for a second Matt wouldn't be able to pull that cork off the champagne bottle, but he pulled it off!

In other words, YECH!

Thank God for the truck race