NASCAR Discussion

[AngelAmy]

What bitches! ok so he didnt actually do anything to get the pole, but its still the pole

Auto Club 500 - Auto Club Speedway
Feb 24 - Auto Club 500 - Auto Club
1. Jimmie Johnson (48)
2. Jeff Gordon (24)
3. Clint Bowyer (07)
4. Matt Kenseth (17)
5. Casey Mears (5)
6. Tony Stewart (20)
7. Sam Hornish Jr. (77)
8. Jeff Burton (31)
9. Carl Edwards (99)
10. Kevin Harvick (29)

[Dan 'Hampton]

You could say he loves the pole!

[scottinnj]

I been checking the weather out in Cali, it's wet. Too bad Fox has the first set of races when the weather is always bad, it should be ESPN calling the races that get washed out.

[scottinnj]

If you look at the hood of Dale Jr.'s Nationwide car, it has the National Guard logo on it, and below the logo has the unit crest and name of a National Guard combat unit. Way to go Dale!

And don't forget to root for Shane Huffman in the squiddie Navy car. GO SHANE!

[scottinnj]

Found this link on the front page at NASCAR.com

Linkey Linkey (http://i.cdn.turner.com/nascar/.element/pdf/2.0/sect/2008/2/19/exhibit_a_notice.pdf)!

[AngelAmy]

I really hope they can dry off the track fast...I want to see a race or two

[scottinnj]

I really hope they can dry off the track fast...I want to see a race or two

It's 11:45 at night East Coast....you were saying?


This is why I hate having the second race in California. It just sets up the first 4 or 5 weeks for rain delays and cautions that shouldn't have happened.

AutoClub 500 = Blech!

[AngelAmy]

theyre still trying
my track pass is still up which means they havent called it off yet.............or they just forgot to shut it down

[AngelAmy]

omg theyre gonna start the race at 1am

race clock says the race has been going on for 5 hours 27 minutes wowee

[scottinnj]

The only thing to do now is to shut it all down and turn off the tv, make sure your cable box is on another channel so the Nielson ratings will show the sponsors that the race was restarted and watched by nobody.

NASCAR really fucks the TV viewers every time they have a rain delay.

It's time the sponsors figured that out, and have NASCAR have a race or postpone it. This shit is just ridiculous.

[PapaBear]

The only thing to do now is to shut it all down and turn off the tv, make sure your cable box is on another channel so the Nielson ratings will show the sponsors that the race was restarted and watched by nobody.

NASCAR really fucks the TV viewers every time they have a rain delay.

It's time the sponsors figured that out, and have NASCAR have a race or postpone it. This shit is just ridiculous.
I doubt that's really happening. I've checked Fox, Speed and ESPN 1 and 2. No race from what I can see.

[PapaBear]

1PM on Monday. (http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/cup/02/24/california.water.issues/index.html)

[joethebartender]

I all but missed the race...tuned in just in time for my driver to crash, get flipped, and catch on fire. Way to go nascar...wet track why not? at least let goodyear come up with rain slicks for them!
Still stickin with the 5!

[ScottFromGA]

Brad Kesowloski in the Navy car, Scottinnj.

I knew this was gonna happen....the most recent time I can remember that NASCAR took this long to dry a track cause they HAD to get the race in was at Charlotte. I think it was 1998 or so, they finished the race at about 3 or 4am with Jeffy Poo being the winner.


but I was 14 or 15 and it was during the summer break of school....so of course it was easy to stay up and watch.

Honestly, I don't blame NASCAR for trying to get this this race in. They have so much travel time involved now and because of that dumb schedule that NASCAR has set in place, it paints them into a box that they can not get out of until the next season.


I just feel bad for the Hauler drivers....THEY have more driving ahead of them than the actual drivers do.

[AngelAmy]

i stayed up the whole time just to find out it was going to be today, BAH

I'll get to watch an hour of it at least

[AngelAmy]

I still cant pay for spoon's friend's pool, I dunno what to do

[scottinnj]

Brad Kesowloski in the Navy car, Scottinnj.




Oops your right, my bad. Where did Shane go?

[AngelAmy]

Results of the race

Auto Club 500 - Auto Club Speedway

Feb 24 - Auto Club 500 - Auto Club Speedway

1. Carl Edwards (99)
2. Jimmie Johnson (48)
3. Jeff Gordon (24)
4. Kyle Busch (18)
5. Matt Kenseth (17)
6. Martin Truex Jr. (1)
7. Tony Stewart (20)
8. Kevin Harvick (29)
9. Kasey Kahne (9)
10. Ryan Newman (12)

2008 Standings

1. Kyle Busch (18) -
2. Ryan Newman (12) -6
3. Tony Stewart (20) -19
4. Kurt Busch (2) -36
5. Carl Edwards (99) -39
6. Kasey Kahne (9) -41
7. Kevin Harvick (29) -67
8. Jimmie Johnson (48) -68
9. Greg Biffle (16) -73
10. Jeff Burton (31) -74

[cougarjake13]

Results of the race

Auto Club 500 - Auto Club Speedway

Feb 24 - Auto Club 500 - Auto Club Speedway

1. Carl Edwards (99)
2. Jimmie Johnson (48)
3. Jeff Gordon (24)
4. Kyle Busch (18)
5. Matt Kenseth (17)
6. Martin Truex Jr. (1)
7. Tony Stewart (20)
8. Kevin Harvick (29)
9. Kasey Kahne (9)
10. Ryan Newman (12)

2008 Standings

1. Kyle Busch (18) -
2. Ryan Newman (12) -6
3. Tony Stewart (20) -19
4. Kurt Busch (2) -36
5. Carl Edwards (99) -39
6. Kasey Kahne (9) -41
7. Kevin Harvick (29) -67
8. Jimmie Johnson (48) -68
9. Greg Biffle (16) -73
10. Jeff Burton (31) -74



last time all year that kyle and newman will be in the top 5

[AngelAmy]

Sunday, Mar 2
UAW-Dodge 400 - Las Vegas Motor Speedway

Mar 2 - UAW-Dodge 400 - Las Vegas Motor Speedway

1. Kyle Busch (18)
2. Carl Edwards (99)
3. Mark Martin (8)
4. Jeff Gordon (24)
5. Mike Skinner (27)
6. Greg Biffle (16)
7. Scott Riggs (66)
8. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (88)
9. Kurt Busch (2)
10. Elliott Sadler (19)

[PapaBear]

The Labor Day Weekend race may be moved to Hotlanta... (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=txlasvegasnotebook&prov=st&type=lgns)

The plan would swap California’s Labor Day weekend date to Atlanta, with the current late October race date for Atlanta going to California.
That would provide a chance to have a Labor Day weekend race in the South and would give California a better time of the year for its second date.


I hope they do this. Not that Atlanta is usually very cold in October, but it would still make more sense to have the October race be in California instead.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Where did Shane go?

Not sure. Last seen with a little kid asking him to come back.

[cougarjake13]

5 minutes to the nationwide race !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AngelAmy]

nice, a police car is the pace car today.

[cougarjake13]

nice, a police car is the pace car today.

well you know how crazy those las vegasians get

[scottinnj]

Nice. Dale moves up 13 positions to be 10th in points.

[cougarjake13]

Nice. Dale moves up 13 positions to be 10th in points.

tis sweet


was hoping for a win

[Tenbatsuzen]

DW was killing Jr, saying that the Gordon accident was his fault because he spun his tires.

[AngelAmy]

i am beginning to think I am a jinx, i picked kenseth to win :(

[scottinnj]

DW was killing Jr, saying that the Gordon accident was his fault because he spun his tires.

Technically it was, because of the bottleneck he caused, but Gordon had already passed him and was caught up in Kenseth's check up which caused Matt to go up the track come back down and collect Jeff.

[AngelAmy]

2008 Standings

1. Carl Edwards (99) -
2. Kyle Busch (18) -21
3. Ryan Newman (12) -41
4. Kasey Kahne (9) -47
5. Kevin Harvick (29) -63
6. Greg Biffle (16) -64
7. Jeff Burton (31) -70
8. Martin Truex Jr. (1) -120
9. Elliott Sadler (19) -123
10. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (88) -130

[Tenbatsuzen]

2008 Standings

1. Carl Edwards (99) -
2. Kyle Busch (18) -21
3. Ryan Newman (12) -41
4. Kasey Kahne (9) -47
5. Kevin Harvick (29) -63
6. Greg Biffle (16) -64
7. Jeff Burton (31) -70
8. Martin Truex Jr. (1) -120
9. Elliott Sadler (19) -123
10. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (88) -130

Not for long. After tomorrow, those standings will change dramatically.

[scottinnj]

Not for long. After tomorrow, those standings will change dramatically.

You talking about the loose oil pan cover on Carl Edwards' car?

50 points, 10 grand and crew chief on "probation" for 6 races. In my opinion. I haven't checked the NASCAR website yet today, so I may be just blowing smoke out my ass.

[nevnut]

You talking about the loose oil pan cover on Carl Edwards' car?

50 points, 10 grand and crew chief on "probation" for 6 races. In my opinion. I haven't checked the NASCAR website yet today, so I may be just blowing smoke out my ass.

Probably not even that much, they got 6 Nationwide cars last week for that and charged 25 driver and 25 car owner points.

They did say however, that the Nationwide cars had "loose" covers and Carl's cover was off. Don't really know what that means or what the advantage would be.

[scottinnj]

What got me mad was the lack of ambulance to Tony's wreck Sunday, and then walking him off the track with an obvious back injury. He was complaining about being light headed and had a "tingly" sensation in his legs on impact. That should have been an automatic trip to the MRI exam room.

[scottinnj]

Probably not even that much, they got 6 Nationwide cars last week for that and charged 25 driver and 25 car owner points.

They did say however, that the Nationwide cars had "loose" covers and Carl's cover was off. Don't really know what that means or what the advantage would be.

I don't see any advantage either. It could be just NASCAR is concerned about the covers being loose and causing an accident or just debris being on the track that could be avoided.

[AngelAmy]

2008 Standings (Updated)



1. Kyle Busch (18) -
2. Ryan Newman (12) -20
3. Kasey Kahne (9) -26
4. Kevin Harvick (29) -42
5. Greg Biffle (16) -43
6. Jeff Burton (31) -49
7. Carl Edwards (99) -79
8. Martin Truex Jr. (1) -99
9. Elliott Sadler (19) -102
10. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (88) -109

[cougarjake13]

You talking about the loose oil pan cover on Carl Edwards' car?

50 points, 10 grand and crew chief on "probation" for 6 races. In my opinion. I haven't checked the NASCAR website yet today, so I may be just blowing smoke out my ass.

Probably not even that much, they got 6 Nationwide cars last week for that and charged 25 driver and 25 car owner points.

They did say however, that the Nationwide cars had "loose" covers and Carl's cover was off. Don't really know what that means or what the advantage would be.

edwards docked 100 points


seems a bit extreme if you ask me

[PapaBear]

Just think... In one day, Robby Gordon gained 200 points on Edwards!

[cougarjake13]

Just think... In one day, Robby Gordon gained 200 points on Edwards!

shit yeh


he wont win much though but its cool

[scottinnj]

edwards docked 100 points


seems a bit extreme if you ask me

QFT

And NASCAR can't even say it was an "advantage" they found over the other COT cars:

President Geoff Smith issued a statement Wednesday explaining what happened: "The bolt holding the lid in place failed in its purpose as a result of vibration harmonics generated by the car and the racetrack during the race. The bolt was secure enough to survive 225 miles of practice, perhaps up to 399 of 400 miles of the race and the scrutiny of numerous inspections."

And NASCAR admitted Edwards did not fail inspection.

So why penalize Edwards and the team for an alleged offense that was not malicious nor provided a significant amount of competitive advantage?

How can it? The oil reservoir is behind the drivers' seat inside the car. If anything, it was a safety hazard for Edwards and I'm confident the experts at Roush would not put their flagship driver in harm's way.

NASCAR's shoot now, ask questions later mentality has to be taken to task, much like Robby Gordon did this week. He gleaned a small victory by way of points returned after the driver appealed NASCAR's blanket penal tactics for an improper nose delivered from the manufacturer on his car in Daytona.

[cougarjake13]

well hopefully edwards will appeal this also

[Jughead]

Ok I will tell badwheel.com:tongue:

[Tenbatsuzen]

QFT

And NASCAR can't even say it was an "advantage" they found over the other COT cars:

An engineer for Toyota said that the missing cover can add some downforce, which is useful on a track like CAlifornia.

[nevnut]

Dale Jr. starting second along side teammate Gordon who got the pole.

http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2008/4/data/lineup.html

Can't hardly wait till Sunday!!!

[scottinnj]

An engineer for Toyota said that the missing cover can add some downforce, which is useful on a track like CAlifornia.

He went as far as to say Roush Racing knew it would create a competitive advantage, which is fancy Toyota-speak for "cheater" I disagree, but Roush had his say over Lee White's comments.

Like I said before, I'm no Edwards fan, but for the infraction, the penalty seems harsh.

Roush fires off at critics, denies intent of cheating (http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/cup/03/07/cedwards.jroush.penalty.reaction/index.html)

In the long run, it's Edwards, it's a Ford, and it's not my team. So I'm not going to worry about it anymore.

[Jughead]

Dale Jr. starting second along side teammate Gordon who got the pole.

http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2008/4/data/lineup.html

Can't hardly wait till Sunday!!!

Thanks Nev I missed it...thanks for the info I think I have 1&2 in our league??

[scottinnj]

Dale Jr. starting second along side teammate Gordon who got the pole.

http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2008/4/data/lineup.html

Can't hardly wait till Sunday!!!

How do you spell his name? W-I-N-N-E-R T-H-I-S S-U-N-D-A-Y!!!

[cougarjake13]

damn too late to change the drivers

[AngelAmy]

Sunday, Mar 9
Kobalt Tools 500 - Atlanta Motor Speedway

Mar 9 - Kobalt Tools 500 - Atlanta Motor Speedway

1. Jeff Gordon (24) 185.251
2. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (88) 184.862
3. Martin Truex Jr. (1) 183.807
4. Carl Edwards (99) 183.297
5. Bobby Labonte (43) 183.248
6. Kyle Busch (18) 182.910
7. Clint Bowyer (07) 182.753
8. Kevin Harvick (29) 182.627
9. Kasey Kahne (9) 182.344
10. Mark Martin (8) 182.332

[nevnut]

It's fucking snowing in Atlanta.

:annoyed:

Nationwide qualifying postponed.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Jesus Christ, Jr. is fucking DIALED.

[Jughead]

Edwards Gets past Gordon.....Ok please root for... Harvick ...Jr.....Kyle... and.... Vickers....I need R&F.net Karma...Im Our league....:bye:..Damn Jr is running high.....He always does that....:thumbup:

[Tenbatsuzen]

Robby Reiser calls Carl "Matt" by accident. Awesome.

[Jughead]

I think of the change over drivers...Dario has impressed me..and A.J ..well he is a great person but might be headed back to no fenders...

[Tenbatsuzen]

I think of the change over drivers...Dario has impressed me..and A.J ..well he is a great person but might be headed back to no fenders...

Hornish has impressed me more than Dario. JPM is still a jackass.

[AngelAmy]

maybe kyle will blow another tire

[Tenbatsuzen]

maybe kyle will blow another tire

He was such a dick after the race yesterday.

Not that Jamie Little doesn't deserve it, but still.

[Tenbatsuzen]

June fucking spun his tires AGAIN!

[AngelAmy]

He was such a dick after the race yesterday.

Not that Jamie Little doesn't deserve it, but still.

he said effin tires right?

i wasnt hearing things?

[scottinnj]

oh boy. at chuck e cheese for my daughters 9th birthday, and nascar.com is saying june is kicking ass. figures he'll get his first points win of the year withou me watching live. thank god for dvrs.

[AngelAmy]

ugh juan pablo montoya commercial

i just threw up in my mouth

[scottinnj]

almost home.

[Reephdweller]

Damn, Edwards could win again? Another gay ass flip!!! Noooooooooooooo he must be stopped!

[AngelAmy]

these kasey kahne commercials are my most favorite things on tv

[Reephdweller]

these kasey kahne commercials are my most favorite things on tv

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They're funny as hell.

[AngelAmy]

edwards black flagged due to smoke (and not tony stewart)

[DiabloSammich]

Damn, Edwards could win again? Another gay ass flip!!! Noooooooooooooo he must be stopped!



Fear not, Reef, one day those legs will be a little too rubbery from a particular grueling race and he will land on and subsequently break his neck.

Write it on a rock...

[AngelAmy]

hahaha smoke saying good year cant make a tire wortha crap....at least he didnt curse hahahahha

[Reephdweller]

Smoke just went off on a rant about Goodyear tires...I loved it.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Smoke just went off on a rant about Goodyear tires...I loved it.

That'll be a fine. But 100 bonus "AWESOME!" points.

[Jughead]

OMG Tony speak's
The truth

[Jughead]

And the Fox broadcast says it was a safe race...Well guess what 4 driver's were put in harms way last week because of bad tires...GOODYEAR WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!..you have no competition thats why you just care about the money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ScottFromGA]

I'm absolutely happy that I didn't get race tickets this year....I usually go to Atlanta every year, but I've been a defender of the COT since the idea was concieved. I must say that this has to be the worst Atlanta race I've seen in many many many years.....Goodyear flat out FUCKED this race up.


Its time for NASCAR to get other tire makes in the game and make this shit interesting again. I'm so sick of hearing Toyota Stewart cry about these shit tires.....even though he makes a 100000% point. This tire with this car isn't ready for racing on big tracks, and today proved it to me......California and Las Vegas wasn't terrible races, but they were entertaining. Today, I took 3 naps and I LOVE ATLANTA!!!

anyways....my point of this rant is that you can't run tanks around at 200 mph on a set of bricks.:furious:

[cougarjake13]

any thoughts on tony

will he get fined ???

[AngelAmy]

any thoughts on tony

will he get fined ???

my initial reaction was "oh my god he is so getting fined for this." not only did he say goodyear sucks but he rattled off names of other companies.

[AngelAmy]

Sunday, Mar 9

Kobalt Tools 500 - Atlanta Motor Speedway

Mar 9 - Kobalt Tools 500 - Atlanta Motor Speedway

1. Kyle Busch (18) 195/10
2. Tony Stewart (20) 170/0
3. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (88) 170/5
4. Greg Biffle (16) 165/5
5. Jeff Gordon (24) 160/5
6. Clint Bowyer (07) 155/5
7. Kevin Harvick (29) 146/0
8. Matt Kenseth (17) 142/0
9. Brian Vickers (83) 143/5
10. Jeff Burton (31) 134/0





2008 Standings

1. Kyle Busch (18) -
2. Greg Biffle (16) -73
3. Kevin Harvick (29) -91
4. Ryan Newman (12) -94
5. Jeff Burton (31) -110
6. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (88) -134
7. Kasey Kahne (9) -137
8. Tony Stewart (20) -140
9. Brian Vickers (83) -174
10. Kurt Busch (2) -187

[Jughead]

my initial reaction was "oh my god he is so getting fined for this." not only did he say goodyear sucks but he rattled off names of other companies.

That was my thoughts exactly....Believe me GoodYear and Firestone HATE each other....Its a Indy thing.....Good point Amy.......He Might as well said the f word as far as Goodyear goes...Oh wait he did....:tongue:

[scottinnj]

I hope Smoke isn't fined. I don't agree with him, I think we have a ways to go to get the new car down to a science. Everyone struggled with the handling, even Kyle although he was so dominant.
Chad Knaus made a point of the lack of downforce the new cars are having problems with, and since the car has more safety equipment in it, it is now heavier. Since it is heavier, the tires have to be harder, combine that with the lack of downforce, the handling is going to be harder to get into check. When the tires were new, the first few laps of cars that had good handling seemed to be going well, here and at Las Vegas. It's just that the tire is harder, so it wears easier and it's handling goes away faster then the old tire did.
I'm thinking Steve Letarte found out the hard way at California that the shock and spring packages have to be rethought and retooled. Bump stops have to be relocated, and springs have to be softer with more empahsis on spring rubbers to compensate for faster tire wear.
Goodyear is still working on it, and hopefully everyone is going to figure out a way to get the handling under control.

Bristol is coming, so this issue will certainly not go away. I expect to see a lot of sponsor logos get embedded into the wall there, and a lot of tempers flaring after the race.

[Tenbatsuzen]

What was Jr. docked when he said shit on the air? I'm pretty sure it was -25 points and 25 grand.

If they dock him anymore than 25/25, it's fucking ludicrous. If they even THINK about tagging him for 100/100, I'll lose my mind.

[Jughead]

I hope Smoke isn't fined. I don't agree with him, I think we have a ways to go to get the new car down to a science. Everyone struggled with the handling, even Kyle although he was so dominant.
Chad Knaus made a point of the lack of downforce the new cars are having problems with, and since the car has more safety equipment in it, it is now heavier. Since it is heavier, the tires have to be harder, combine that with the lack of downforce, the handling is going to be harder to get into check. When the tires were new, the first few laps of cars that had good handling seemed to be going well, here and at Las Vegas. It's just that the tire is harder, so it wears easier and it's handling goes away faster then the old tire did.
I'm thinking Steve Letarte found out the hard way at California that the shock and spring packages have to be rethought and retooled. Bump stops have to be relocated, and springs have to be softer with more empahsis on spring rubbers to compensate for faster tire wear.
Goodyear is still working on it, and hopefully everyone is going to figure out a way to get the handling under control.

Bristol is coming, so this issue will certainly not go away. I expect to see a lot of sponsor logos get embedded into the wall there, and a lot of tempers flaring after the race.
Scott..You have watched a lot of racing....Have you EVER seen cars look like they were on dirt @ 180mph....And last week....4 cars Hit the wall at 180+ Because of tire failure..Believe me these drivers don't want to bash Goodyear..BUT..Its there lives we are talking about..... and Goodyear has no competition to compete with....TONY SPOKE UP And is True as Usual ....:bye:

[scottinnj]

Scott..You have watched a lot of racing....Have you EVER seen cars look like they were on dirt @ 180mph....And last week....4 cars Hit the wall at 180+ Because of tire failure..Believe me these drivers don't want to bash Goodyear..BUT..Its there lives we are talking about..... and Goodyear has no competition to compete with....TONY SPOKE UP And is True as Usual ....:bye:

Oh I'm not totally disagreeing with him, I'm just not sure it's the tire itself, and not the tire along with a couple of other factors. I just want the finger pointing to quiet down fast so the problem can be fixed.

Last week, were they tire failures, all of them or were some of them cut tires? I know I didn't like the accident Smoke was in, I was really mad at the response crew, and I was REALLY pissed at the hit Jeff G. took.

I have the race DVR'ed I'll take another look at it and concentrate on those hits on the walls.

I can't disagree with you at all on the handling. It was atrocious. Even with Dale and Kyle lapping everyone DW was complaining that they were slower then usual.

But I hope Tony doesn't get fined for what he said. The drivers do need to feel free to speak their minds, that's the only way problems are going to get fixed.

[scottinnj]

What was Jr. docked when he said shit on the air? I'm pretty sure it was -25 points and 25 grand.

If they dock him anymore than 25/25, it's fucking ludicrous. If they even THINK about tagging him for 100/100, I'll lose my mind.

I don't even think he cursed or said foul language or anything at all close to an FCC violation. On the flip side, you should have heard Dale's pottymouth on the radio with Tony Eury.

Dale: Blankety Blank Blank Fucking tires!
Tony Eury: 10-4

Fucking Fabulous, I love my Hotpass.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I don't even think he cursed or said foul language or anything at all close to an FCC violation. On the flip side, you should have heard Dale's pottymouth on the radio with Tony Eury.

Dale: Blankety Blank Blank Fucking tires!
Tony Eury: 10-4

Fucking Fabulous, I love my Hotpass.

He was penalized for saying shit on the air after winning a race... He missed the chase last year, he was in 2006, missed in 2005, so I'm pretty sure this was in 2004.

[scottinnj]

He was penalized for saying shit on the air after winning a race... He missed the chase last year, he was in 2006, missed in 2005, so I'm pretty sure this was in 2004.

I remember the fine Dale got, but what I meant was what Tony was saying yesterday after the race. Tony didn't curse or say anything that had to be bleeped on Fox. That's why I'm with you on the "no penalty" thing, Tony should not be fined for what he said about Goodyear yesterday.

[nevnut]

What was Jr. docked when he said shit on the air? I'm pretty sure it was -25 points and 25 grand.

If they dock him anymore than 25/25, it's fucking ludicrous. If they even THINK about tagging him for 100/100, I'll lose my mind.

I have a somewhat love-hate thing with Tony, but I hope the give him 25 points for slamming Goodyear.

[AngelAmy]

heheh i was listening in on jimmie's radio and chad kept telling jimmie that everyone was having handling problems, they would just need to get up front

i know chad said shit at one point but i forget when...there isnt too much cursing on jimmie's radio...just chad saying bud a lot

[ScottFromGA]

Scott..You have watched a lot of racing....Have you EVER seen cars look like they were on dirt @ 180mph....And last week....4 cars Hit the wall at 180+ Because of tire failure..Believe me these drivers don't want to bash Goodyear..BUT..Its there lives we are talking about..... and Goodyear has no competition to compete with....TONY SPOKE UP And is True as Usual ....:bye:

i know you mean the other Scott.....but I have seen plenty of OLD races where they were going 180plus sideways, they were called Bias Plyed tires. I remember an old race at Dover on ESPNclassic, those guys were sideways, smoking the right rear tire and putting on one HELL of a show. Radial tires aren't meant to give and slide as much as a Bias Plyed tire can. Its just how they are constructed differently compared to the Radial.

I'm not a genius to tires, but I know how they feel in an actual racecar cause I use to race on dirt myself.....Stick the Bias Plyed tires on these COT's and you might actually see one hell of a race. Either that, or like I said in a previous post.........allow other manufactuers to come to the table with a tire that can support what the car gives it.


Booty Barker said it best on NASCAR Performance Saturday night....they are trying to make a little man do a big mans job with these tires, and making them hard as rocks isn't the answer. They went down this road a few years ago, and it had the same results.

[scottinnj]

I think a big problem NASCAR is having is having to adhere too much to sposorships and their contracts of exclusivity. We saw it last year when RCR and AT&T went to court with NASCAR, and this tire issue is a problem due to the lack of competition Goodyear has at the track. Firestone and Goodyear went round and round with big tire wars in the early
70s, and Bill France put the Kabosh on it back then.

But being the "exclusive" tire provider, gasoline, safety helmet, etc. can be a bad thing if the company with the right to be at the track has a product inferior to the company locked outside.

NASCAR should let Firestone and Hoosier compete for race teams' attention and dollars, by letting them shop their wares, and NASCAR should have a set of rules to ensure safety that each tire company has to measure up to.

[cougarjake13]

I hope Smoke isn't fined. I don't agree with him, I think we have a ways to go to get the new car down to a science. Everyone struggled with the handling, even Kyle although he was so dominant.
Chad Knaus made a point of the lack of downforce the new cars are having problems with, and since the car has more safety equipment in it, it is now heavier. Since it is heavier, the tires have to be harder, combine that with the lack of downforce, the handling is going to be harder to get into check. When the tires were new, the first few laps of cars that had good handling seemed to be going well, here and at Las Vegas. It's just that the tire is harder, so it wears easier and it's handling goes away faster then the old tire did.
I'm thinking Steve Letarte found out the hard way at California that the shock and spring packages have to be rethought and retooled. Bump stops have to be relocated, and springs have to be softer with more empahsis on spring rubbers to compensate for faster tire wear.
Goodyear is still working on it, and hopefully everyone is going to figure out a way to get the handling under control.

Bristol is coming, so this issue will certainly not go away. I expect to see a lot of sponsor logos get embedded into the wall there, and a lot of tempers flaring after the race.



but isnt this something that should have been worked on and tested in the off time between seasons ???

[Jughead]

i know you mean the other Scott.....but I have seen plenty of OLD races where they were going 180plus sideways, they were called Bias Plyed tires. I remember an old race at Dover on ESPNclassic, those guys were sideways, smoking the right rear tire and putting on one HELL of a show. Radial tires aren't meant to give and slide as much as a Bias Plyed tire can. Its just how they are constructed differently compared to the Radial.

I'm not a genius to tires, but I know how they feel in an actual racecar cause I use to race on dirt myself.....Stick the Bias Plyed tires on these COT's and you might actually see one hell of a race. Either that, or like I said in a previous post.........allow other manufactuers to come to the table with a tire that can support what the car gives it.


Booty Barker said it best on NASCAR Performance Saturday night....they are trying to make a little man do a big mans job with these tires, and making them hard as rocks isn't the answer. They went down this road a few years ago, and it had the same results.

Bias Don't sell in the store....so it is a non issue..Kevlar belts and radial...If I sponsored bias ply tires i would root for Fireball Roberts///:smile:

[AngelAmy]

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[scottinnj]

Caption This Picture
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...then when Cole Trickle's car went sideways,
it was like, whaapow!

[scottinnj]

Cup qualifying rained out, so lineup is set by owner's points:

"Qualified"
1 48 Jimmie Johnson
2 24 Jeff Gordon
3 07 Clint Bowyer
4 17 Matt Kenseth
5 5 Casey Mears
6 20 Tony Stewart
7 77 Sam Hornish Jr.
8 31 Jeff Burton
9 99 Carl Edwards
10 29 Kevin Harvick
11 1 Martin Truex Jr.
12 11 Denny Hamlin
13 12 Ryan Newman
14 16 Greg Biffle
15 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr.
16 8 Aric Almirola
17 01 Regan Smith
18 26 Jamie McMurray
19 43 Bobby Labonte
20 9 Kasey Kahne
21 42 Juan Montoya
22 18 Kyle Busch
23 41 Reed Sorenson
24 6 David Ragan
25 96 J.J. Yeley
26 40 Dario Franchitti
27 19 Elliott Sadler
28 7 Robby Gordon
29 15 Paul Menard
30 28 Travis Kvapil
31 66 Scott Riggs
32 38 David Gilliland
33 70 Jeremy Mayfield
34 22 Dave Blaney Toyota
35 45 Kyle Petty
36 2 Kurt Busch
37 44 Dale Jarrett
38 83 Brian Vickers
39 00 David Reutimann
40 55 Michael Waltrip
41 49 Ken Schrader
42 78 Joe Nemechek
43 84 Mike Skinner

"Failed to Qualify"

44 21 Jeff Green
45 34 John Andretti
46 10 Patrick Carpentier

[Tenbatsuzen]

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"Dude, I just saw Junior naked in the shower."

[AngelAmy]

"Dude, I just saw Junior naked in the shower."

:lol: hilarious

[cougarjake13]

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i swear i could almost fit my whole head in mike helton's ass

[Jughead]

I heard Perrys #3 song this am on the replay.....BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO : Homer.....Its really not the Earnhard getting killed parody that bothered me its just his music..Sleeves blows him away..........Looking for shock value on your show...Well hes gonna get it......Not just in Georgia ...Wait for it...

[joethebartender]

Caption This Picture
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"Kyle Busch's head is so big! It's like a bloody orange on a toothpic! He's got a huuuuuge Noggin'"

[ShelleBink]

"Dude, I just saw Junior naked in the shower."

God. What I would give for that.

[Jughead]

Who would have thought that four races into the 2008 Cup season, Hendrick Motorsports would be without a single victory?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Who would have thought that four races into the 2008 Cup season, Hendrick Motorsports would be without a single victory?

So much for the idea that Jr. is a shitty driver and the Hendrick tech would make no difference. If it wasn't for that 42nd place finish, he and Kyle would be neck and neck right now.

[scottinnj]

The one thing that is surprising is JJ is struggling the most among the HMS drivers. Even Casey Mears is in relative terms doing better then JJ, and could be in the Chase hunt except for the accident at Daytona and the one at Las Vegas.

[cougarjake13]

guess 3 in a row aint gonna happen

i know its still early

[ScottFromGA]

not a hendrick fan, but Chad Knaus will turn that 48 program around. That guy is one of the greatest minds running around that NASCAR garage. I only wish I had a portion of his knowledge of racecars.....I admire that guy.

[ScottFromGA]

So much for the idea that Jr. is a shitty driver and the Hendrick tech would make no difference. If it wasn't for that 42nd place finish, he and Kyle would be neck and neck right now.

I was one of those that said he'd go to the front again......but he's still running about how he did at DEI before they went to blowing engines left and right. So basically, him taking his ball and running to another team really hasn't done much for him in the short run.

[ScottFromGA]

Bias Don't sell in the store....so it is a non issue..Kevlar belts and radial...If I sponsored bias ply tires i would root for Fireball Roberts///:smile:

agreed....but these are racecars, put things on them that make them race better.

race on sunday, sell on monday moniker left years ago.

[Tenbatsuzen]

That Mountain Dew. Buick is fucking SWEET.

[Reephdweller]

Smoke just got spun out with just a few laps left!!

[Reephdweller]

Hamlin choked in the restart....Burton won it.

[AngelAmy]

Sunday, Mar 16
Food City 500 - Bristol Motor Speedway

Mar 16 - Food City 500 - Bristol Motor Speedway Unofficial

1. Jeff Burton (31) 0/0
2. Kevin Harvick (29) 0/0
3. Clint Bowyer (07) 0/0
4. Greg Biffle (16) 0/0
5. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (88) 0/0
6. Denny Hamlin (11) 0/0
7. Kasey Kahne (9) 0/0
8. Aric Almirola (8) 0/0
9. David Gilliland (38) 0/0
10. Matt Kenseth (17) 0/0

[Tenbatsuzen]

Junior is becoming ridiculously consistent.

[nevnut]

Junior is becoming ridiculously consistent.

And that's what wins championships.

[AngelAmy]

2008 Standings

1. Kyle Busch (18) -
2. Greg Biffle (16) -30
3. Kevin Harvick (29) -33
4. Jeff Burton (31) -37
5. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (88) -96
6. Kasey Kahne (9) -108
7. Tony Stewart (20) -126
8. Ryan Newman (12) -147
9. Clint Bowyer (07) -176
10. Kurt Busch (2) -177

[cougarjake13]

Hamlin choked in the restart....Burton won it.

did he choke or was it a mechanical problem ???

[scottinnj]

did he choke or was it a mechanical problem ???

Tony choked the restart, Denny's problem was the fuel pickup as he went to pass Tony.
I don't know what to say about Harvick. That was just awful. Those two are good freinds, so I know it wasn't intentional. Sucks to be Smoke today.

[cougarjake13]

Tony choked the restart, Denny's problem was the fuel pickup as he went to pass Tony.
I don't know what to say about Harvick. That was just awful. Those two are good freinds, so I know it wasn't intentional. Sucks to be Smoke today.



yeh maybe harvick thought he was faster and down there and tony would give up the spot

[PapaBear]

I was reading an article about Dale Jarrett (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-jarrettsfarewell&prov=ap&type=lgns) just now. It was about how he's going to finish his career in the all star race at Lowes Motor Speedway, and it mentioned a bad wreck he had there in 1980. So, I looked it up on YouTube.

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OUCH!!! When he crawls out of the car, you can see his foot is totally pointing in the wrong direction. It's almost Joe Theisman bad.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Joe Gibbs has announced a replacement driver for the #20 Home Depot Toyota:

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9721/tonystewart300copytt3.jpg

[AngelAmy]

I was reading an article about Dale Jarrett (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-jarrettsfarewell&prov=ap&type=lgns) just now. It was about how he's going to finish his career in the all star race at Lowes Motor Speedway, and it mentioned a bad wreck he had there in 1980. So, I looked it up on YouTube.

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OUCH!!! When he crawls out of the car, you can see his foot is totally pointing in the wrong direction. It's almost Joe Theisman bad.

gotta love the uh quickness of that emergency crew



AND WHY DID YOU HAVE TO POINT OUT THE LEG THING?!?!?!?! AHHHHHHHHHH

[AngelAmy]

How sad am I? I keep forgetting tomorrow is easter and I keep checking the nascar site for qualifying results. :down:

[cougarjake13]

How sad am I? I keep forgetting tomorrow is easter and I keep checking the nascar site for qualifying results. :down:

ive been doing the same for my fantasy team

took me a few times to realize that the race isnt until next week

[nevnut]

How sad am I? I keep forgetting tomorrow is easter and I keep checking the nascar site for qualifying results. :down:

ive been doing the same for my fantasy team

took me a few times to realize that the race isnt until next week

Don't feel alone.

We all suck.:help:

[AngelAmy]

Sunday, Mar 30


Mar 30 - Goody's Cool Orange 500 - Martinsville Speedway

1. Jeff Gordon (24) 96.288
2. Denny Hamlin (11) 95.757
3. Aric Almirola (8) 95.733
4. David Ragan (6) 95.569
5. Jamie McMurray (26) 95.492
6. Kasey Kahne (9) 95.487
7. Ken Schrader (49) 95.463
8. Kyle Busch (18) 95.347
9. Tony Stewart (20) 95.271
10. Jimmie Johnson (48) 95.213

[Jughead]

Joe Gibbs has announced a replacement driver for the #20 Home Depot Toyota:

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9721/tonystewart300copytt3.jpg

That is top 5 just for this hayseed...Funny Phucker..Ya know Ten you are a lot like Tony!!!!!

[AngelAmy]

well i was going to say "yay jimmie is up front this makes me happy" but denny just passed him

BASTARD

[joethebartender]

Casey's got a chance today.:popcorn:
C'mon 5!!!

[AngelAmy]

mother fucking ass shit fuck cunt cock

[joethebartender]

mother fucking ass shit fuck cunt cock

Isn't he in the 7 car?

[AngelAmy]

wow jimmie is back in 10th, thank god. pleanty of time to make his way back up to the front

[cougarjake13]

hamlin is your winner

[Tenbatsuzen]

Earnhardt continues the consistency 2008 tour.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Get Well Dick Trickle! - "It's just a fun name to say" - Myers

[AngelAmy]

well at least reef is happy

[cougarjake13]

Earnhardt continues the consistency 2008 tour.

you mean the 2008 sprint cup championship tour

[AngelAmy]

Sunday, Mar 30

Goody's Cool Orange 500 - Martinsville Speedway

Mar 30 - Goody's Cool Orange 500 - Martinsville Speedway

1. Denny Hamlin (11) 190/5
2. Jeff Gordon (24) 175/5
3. Jeff Burton (31) 170/5
4. Jimmie Johnson (48) 165/5
5. Tony Stewart (20) 155/0
6. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (88) 160/10
7. Casey Mears (5) 146/0
8. Jamie McMurray (26) 142/0
9. Carl Edwards (99) 138/0
10. Clint Bowyer (07) 134/0


2008 Standings

1. Jeff Burton (31) -
2. Kevin Harvick (29) -39
3. Greg Biffle (16) -60
4. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (88) -69
5. Kyle Busch (18) -84
6. Tony Stewart (20) -104
7. Kasey Kahne (9) -129
8. Denny Hamlin (11) -157
9. Jeff Gordon (24) -166
10. Jimmie Johnson (48) -169

[scottinnj]

Earnhardt continues the consistency 2008 tour.

you mean the 2008 sprint cup championship tour

You're Damn Skippy he is.

[scottinnj]

Quietly, Earnhardt Jr. is living up to the all the hype (http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/opinion/04/02/dcaraviello.junior.quietly.performing/index.html)


There are no more questions about whether he can meet expectations; he's doing it every week. No, he hasn't won yet. He doesn't need to. This is the real Earnhardt, the one unburdened by the family and equipment concerns that always seemed to shadow him at Dale Earnhardt Inc., the one capable of grinding out high finishes like a golfer shooting 71s that will keep him in contention at the end. Each week, it becomes more obvious that the genuine Junior isn't the one who finished 16th in final points in 2007, or
19th in 2005. It was the one who finished third in 2003 and fifth in '04 and '06. It's the one who's cranking out those requisite top-10s heading to Texas, where he earned his first Cup victory exactly eight years ago.

[ScottFromGA]

anyone see Michael Mcdowell's crash at Texas?


amazing....

[Tenbatsuzen]

anyone see Michael Mcdowell's crash at Texas?


amazing....

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/film/malcolm_mcdowell_cannes_460.jpg

http://www.sironaknight.com/mdon82.gif

[cougarjake13]

any relation to roger mcdowell

[Tenbatsuzen]

any relation to roger mcdowell

don't push it, I think I squeezed all the funny out of that one.

[SmallFry]

anyone see Michael Mcdowell's crash at Texas?


amazing....

Not live,


http://youtube.com/watch?v=PrfpWhLOTfY

horrific

[AngelAmy]

Sunday, Apr 6

Samsung 500 - Texas Motor Speedway

Apr 6 - Samsung 500 - Texas Motor Speedway
1. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (88) 190.907
2. Carl Edwards (99) 189.487
3. Kyle Busch (18) 189.069
4. Ryan Newman (12) 189.043
5. Jimmie Johnson (48) 188.772
6. David Reutimann (44) 188.732
7. David Ragan (6) 188.534
8. Matt Kenseth (17) 188.475
9. Mike Skinner (84) 188.390
10. Kasey Kahne (9) 188.245

[cougarjake13]

pole for dale jr..


thinks are looking good

wonder how teresa feels right now

[PapaBear]

wonder how teresa feels right now
"I wish I knew how to make the racey cars go vroom."

[cougarjake13]

"I wish I knew how to make the racey cars go vroom."

hahaha :clap:

[Tenbatsuzen]

"I wish I knew how to make the racey cars go vroom."

Actually, if she thought that, Jr. would probably still be at DEI. She was always concerned with marketing, not technology.

[ScottFromGA]

"I wish I knew how to make the racey cars go vroom."

Funny....but its more like this....

"Put more money into making the cars go faster or put money into my pocket.....hmmm...my pockets sure are empty!"

[cougarjake13]

Actually, if she thought that, Jr. would probably still be at DEI. She was always concerned with marketing, not technology.

not to wish bad on anyone but hopefully she fails so bad that she has to either go bankrupt or sell it back to junior

[AngelAmy]

I really love Smoke's Old Spice car for the Nationwide Series

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/b0/fullj.29c60c81377d76eb41b495a350574ac7/29c60c81377d76eb41b495a350574ac7-getty-80453572jh021_o_reilly_300.jpg

[cougarjake13]

I really love Smoke's Old Spice car for the Nationwide Series

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/b0/fullj.29c60c81377d76eb41b495a350574ac7/29c60c81377d76eb41b495a350574ac7-getty-80453572jh021_o_reilly_300.jpg

that is quite awesome

[nevnut]

I am so fucking psyched for this race, I'm going nuts.

Can't wait for the next 2 hours 16 minutes to get by!!







Go 88!!!

[cougarjake13]

http://www.rfmsracing.com/jr88.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

I really love Smoke's Old Spice car for the Nationwide Series

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/b0/fullj.29c60c81377d76eb41b495a350574ac7/29c60c81377d76eb41b495a350574ac7-getty-80453572jh021_o_reilly_300.jpg

http://maccise.com/uploaded_images/oldspice-746050.jpg

"Ha! Ha! Ha!"

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://www.rfmsracing.com/jr88.jpg

Driving the Natty car today, CJ. Sorry.

[Tenbatsuzen]

The beautiful weather weather at Texas makes the Jr. car look awesome. The sun shining off that Blue, White, and Red car is amazing.

Another thing about Jr: Not only is he being consistent, he's getting bonus points. That's huge.

[nevnut]

The beautiful weather weather at Texas makes the Jr. car look awesome. The sun shining off that Blue, White, and Red car is amazing.

Another thing about Jr: Not only is he being consistent, he's getting bonus points. That's huge.

Great pit stop.:thumbup:

He also needs the bonus points for most laps led.

My fingers are crossed.

[Kris10]

I :wub: Carl Edwards but Bobby is still my main man.

[cougarjake13]

nice win for edwards

[AngelAmy]

Sunday, Apr 6

Samsung 500 - Texas Motor Speedway
Apr 6 - Samsung 500 - Texas Motor Speedway

1. Carl Edwards (99) 195/10
2. Jimmie Johnson (48) 175/5
3. Kyle Busch (18) 170/5
4. Ryan Newman (12) 160/0
5. Denny Hamlin (11) 155/0
6. Jeff Burton (31) 150/0
7. Tony Stewart (20) 146/0
8. Mark Martin (8) 142/0
9. Matt Kenseth (17) 143/5
10. Clint Bowyer (07) 134/0

2008 Standings Behind

1. Jeff Burton (31) -
2. Kevin Harvick (29) -59
3. Kyle Busch (18) -64
4. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (88) -87
5. Tony Stewart (20) -108
6. Jimmie Johnson (48) -144
7. Denny Hamlin (11) -152
8. Greg Biffle (16) -164
8. Ryan Newman (12) -164
10. Carl Edwards (99) -184

[scottinnj]

I gotta say thanks to AngelAmy for keeping us up to date after each race. I missed Texas, I was coming home from a weekend in D.C., and even though Dale finished 12th, I'm pleased to see he is still fourth in points.

[AngelAmy]

Saturday, Apr 12

Subway Fresh Fit 500 - Phoenix International Raceway

Apr 12 - Subway Fresh Fit 500 - Phoenix International Raceway

1. Ryan Newman (12) 133.457
2. Elliott Sadler (19) 133.412
3. Carl Edwards (99) 133.378
4. Mark Martin (8) 133.368
5. Kasey Kahne (9) 133.304
6. Kyle Busch (18) 133.274
7. Jimmie Johnson (48) 133.240
8. Jamie McMurray (26) 133.190
9. Martin Truex Jr. (1) 132.876
10. Scott Riggs (66) 132.871

[Tenbatsuzen]

I just saw Smoke's car for Phoenix. Jesus Christ.

[cougarjake13]

I just saw Smoke's car for Phoenix. Jesus Christ.

i missed it

what did it look like ??

[Tenbatsuzen]

i missed it

what did it look like ??

Bright yellow and green for Subway, along with HOME DEPOT ORANGE. It's ATROCIOUS.

BTW, when did Tony Cut his hair? They just showed him and he looks 20 lbs lighter and has a haircut.

[cougarjake13]

Bright yellow and green for Subway, along with HOME DEPOT ORANGE. It's ATROCIOUS.

BTW, when did Tony Cut his hair? They just showed him and he looks 20 lbs lighter and has a haircut.

aww man thats god awful

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6620/20subwayshopd6a22anp3.jpg

It looks ATROCIOUS in HD.

[Jughead]

Where are you guys and gals..are ya watching...Yes im a fan....surprise ya does it...snob..:tongue:

[hurlmon]

Where are you guys and gals..are ya watching...Yes im a fan....surprise ya does it...snob..:tongue:

I'm watching.

Saturday night racing is great. Especially when you don't need to leave the house.

[Jughead]

Ive been posting ..crap and misspelled words....Newman killed me in our league...Its really crazy but I don't have a favorite driver ..My wife had Burton.she is bumming also...As far as Kenseth..get the Gun.....Oh and im listening to D&A also...To many thing for my pea brain....I see Gordon is back to 8th thats good for my A drivers(Fantasy)

[Jughead]

Cool Jr leading I would love to see him win

[Jughead]

I should have taken Mark He was so fast in practice...Damn

[hurlmon]

.Its really crazy but I don't have a favorite driver )

I hear ya. My buddies refer to me as a Nacar whore since I like a bunch of guys.

I'm in the Yahoo league too.
I'm Fat Guy's Skid Marks.

[Jughead]

I hear ya. My buddies refer to me as a Nacar whore since I like a bunch of guys.

I'm in the Yahoo league too.
I'm Fat Guy's Skid Marks.

Love the name Tippy Tom.....lol..Im CoffeeCan..because my last name is Coffman..I know its like a lot of thing i do...BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

[Jughead]

88 vs the 8...could not be better

[hurlmon]

[QUOTE=Jughead;1689940]Love the name Tippy Tom.....lol.....BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOo[/QUOTE/]

tippy...nice... :)


I don't even remember where my name came from but i've had it for years in another league.

bear with my typing, i'm not on a computer. and as the beers go down this little fucking keyboard is getting smaller or my thumbs are geting bigger?

[Jughead]

[QUOTE=Jughead;1689940]Love the name Tippy Tom.....lol.....BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOo[/QUOTE/]

tippy...nice... :)


I don't even remember where my name came from but i've had it for years in another league.

bear with my typing, i'm not on a computer. and as the beers go down this little fucking keyboard is getting smaller or my thumbs are geting bigger?

Buddy you are talking to the worst typer on this board..Mikey has asked me to leave 3 times.....But I wont give up...I wear the hayseed badge here with honor :king:

[hurlmon]

[QUOTE=hurlmon;1689944] I wear the hayseed badge here with honor :king:

It dont' make you a bad person. I'm a hayseed at heart.

when it shows itself it frightns my wife.

I'm psyched that edwards worked his way back up to the top 10. he's my A pick.

[scottinnj]

what's going on with the race? i'm in a total blackout. no tv, no radio just my smartphone.

[Jughead]

[QUOTE=Jughead;1689947]

It dont' make you a bad person. I'm a hayseed at heart.

when it shows itself it frightns my wife.

I'm psyched that edwards worked his way back up to the top 10. he's my A pick.

My wife also.(Edwards).I was pming a few friends here Have they pitted yet???Did Jr lose the lead on the track???

[Jughead]

Hayseed speaking..What does a sticky thread mean with the little pin....I'm embarrassed....

[hurlmon]

no pits yet

[Jughead]

no pits yet

There will be wont they buddy..Could be the decider....:drunk:

[Jughead]

what's going on with the race? i'm in a total blackout. no tv, no radio just my smartphone.

19 to go every one of the leaders needs to pit

[hurlmon]

Hayseed speaking..What does a sticky thread mean with the little pin....I'm embarrassed....

those are threads that always stay at the top of the list no matter when the last post was. imposrtant info usually.

I hope this doesnlt come down to fuel mileage

[Jughead]

Martin hamlin Johnson Jr........Hamlin stopping!!!!!!!!

[hurlmon]

pit stops.

here we go.....

[Jughead]

those are threads that always stay at the top of the list no matter when the last post was. imposrtant info usually.

I hope this doesnlt come down to fuel mileage

Except for us.....:smile:........Thanks..for the info

[Jughead]

Please Not Jimmy..No offense just someone else..Good song right now on 202..fyi

[Jughead]

Cool R&F replay on 202

[Jughead]

It was fuel..Damn.......

[AngelAmy]

yaaaaay jimmie won!!!

finally


that was pretty intense at the end

((i fucking picked harvick tho :( ))

[hurlmon]

fuck.

anyone but ole' waxed eyebrows..

time to relax with the R&F replay

[Jughead]

yaaaaay jimmie won!!!

finally


that was pretty intense at the end

((i fucking picked harvick tho :( ))

Newman killed me............ oh well next week....Where are we next week???

[Jughead]

fuck.

anyone but ole' waxed eyebrows..

time to relax with the R&F replay

Have a good one nite all!!!!

[PapaBear]

Shit. The race was tonight?:wallbash:

[hurlmon]

off next week then I think tallagega.

[scottinnj]

off next week then I think tallagega.

aaron's 499 at talladega april 27.

how did dale do tonight @ phoenix?

[hurlmon]

how did dale do tonight @ phoenix?

7th

[scottinnj]

7th

ty. that should keep him in 4th place overall...nice for talladega, he'll do well there.

[scottinnj]

i'm looking for dale to be in the second spot in points after talladega. i'm sure kyle will pick up another dnf there-he is not that good on superspeedways. i checked the stats, and the top 5 are tightening up!

[Philly Franko]

Dale E Rules...immy ohnson not so much...:drunk:

[scottinnj]

Dale E Rules...immy ohnson not so much...:drunk:
q to the f to the motherfucking t

[cougarjake13]

i'm looking for dale to be in the second spot in points after talladega. i'm sure kyle will pick up another dnf there-he is not that good on superspeedways. i checked the stats, and the top 5 are tightening up!

that'd be sweet but as long as he's in the top 12

[AngelAmy]

Saturday, Apr 12
Subway Fresh Fit 500 - Phoenix International Raceway
Apr 12 - Subway Fresh Fit 500 - Phoenix International Raceway Final Pts/Bonus
1. Jimmie Johnson (48) 195/10
2. Clint Bowyer (07) 170/0
3. Denny Hamlin (11) 165/0
4. Carl Edwards (99) 160/0
5. Mark Martin (8) 160/5
6. Jeff Burton (31) 150/0
7. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (88) 151/5
8. Martin Truex Jr. (1) 142/0
9. Greg Biffle (16) 138/0
10. Kyle Busch (18) 134/0

2008 Standings Behind

1. Jeff Burton (31) -
2. Kyle Busch (18) -80
3. Dale Earnhardt Jr. (88) -86
4. Jimmie Johnson (48) -99
5. Kevin Harvick (29) -103
6. Denny Hamlin (11) -137
6. Tony Stewart (20) -137
8. Clint Bowyer (07) -171
9. Carl Edwards (99) -174
10. Greg Biffle (16) -176

[cougarjake13]

kinda sucks theres no race today

[AngelAmy]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/29/fullj.cdd4aa7d49f64c3f10b8d02ce272524c/cdd4aa7d49f64c3f10b8d02ce272524c-getty-80561610jb115_subway_fresh_.jpg

[AngelAmy]

kinda sucks theres no race today

I know, every time there is a night race I am so so excited because I love the races under the lights but then my Sundays feel very empty.

I'm looking forward to the Yankees game tonight but that's about it

[Tenbatsuzen]

I know, every time there is a night race I am so so excited because I love the races under the lights but then my Sundays feel very empty.

I'm looking forward to the Yankees game tonight but that's about it

...playoff hockey?

Oh wait, you're a devils fan along with that harlot Michelle

[AngelAmy]

...playoff hockey?

Oh wait, you're a devils fan along with that harlot Michelle

I'm actually a Flyers fan and I watched that game. Never liked the Devils.

[PapaBear]

Woo Hoo! Dale is only 6 points out of second place!!! Burton really does have a commanding lead. Though I want Dale to win this year, I'm happy to see Burton there.

[scottinnj]

Never liked the Devils.


Nascar Fan and hates the Devils. My kind of girl.

[scottinnj]

I copied this from my alter ego over at FBA.com, but jeebjeebjeebjeeb and scottinnj are one in the same:


Let's Sing!

Chorus:
"Talladega!
Awesome Talladega!
Talladega!
It's the track for me!"

Verse 1:
"Do they go 195?
Yes they go 195!
195!
195!
Whooooaaah"

Chorus:
"Talladega!
Awesome Talladega!
Talladega!
It's the track for me!"

Verse 2:

"Did Sadler flip upside down?"
Yes Sadler flipped upside down!
Upside Down!
Upside Down!
Whooooaaah"

Chorus:
"Talladega!
Awesome Talladega!
Talladega!
It's the track for me!"

Verse 3:

"Did Gordon get hit with beer?
Yes Gordon got hit with beer!
Hit with beer!
Hit with beer!
Whooooaaah!"


Chorus:

"Talladega!
Awesome Talladega!
Talladega!
It's the track for me!"

Verse 4:

"Does Dale Jr. RULE THE ROOST?
Yes Dale Jr. RULES THE ROOST!
RULES THE ROOST!
RULES THE ROOST!
Whooooaaah!"

Chorus:
"Talladega!
Awesome Talladega!
Talladega!
It's the track for me!"







What? So I'm excited we're back at Talladega! Just sayin

[joethebartender]

Nice song.
Will Junior have to ask his fans to throw toilet paper again when someone else wins?
A class bunch of fans they have down there.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Woo Hoo! Dale is only 6 points out of second place!!! Burton really does have a commanding lead. Though I want Dale to win this year, I'm happy to see Burton there.

The lead will mean nothing. He could be up by a zillion points and it still starts at plus 100 at race 27.

[scottinnj]

The lead will mean nothing. He could be up by a zillion points and it still starts at plus 100 at race 27.

This is why I'm still not a fan of the "playoffs" NASCAR invented.

[cougarjake13]

The lead will mean nothing. He could be up by a zillion points and it still starts at plus 100 at race 27.

exactly

so most drivers are gonna just do enough to hopefully stay in the top 12 so they can qualify

i guess thats why they added the 10 points for every win part to make them wanna race harder

its better than the original format but not perfect if there is such a thing

[led37zep]

Hey kiddos,

I'll be at Talladega this weekend shooting some B-roll. Woo Hoo! My first live Nascar event!

Who wants a Talladega beer cozy?

[joethebartender]

Hey kiddos,

I'll be at Talladega this weekend shooting some B-roll. Woo Hoo! My first live Nascar event!

Who wants a Talladega beer cozy?

Just make sure that it stays in the stands!

[bigredd]

I'm leaving for Talladega in a few minutes! Woo Hoo! Me and 200,000 of my closest buddays for the next two days. I can't wait.

[led37zep]

I'm leaving for Talladega in a few minutes! Woo Hoo! Me and 200,000 of my closest buddays for the next two days. I can't wait.

I'll keep an eye out for ya. Will you be the drunk guy in the stands? Shirt or no shirt? VERY IMPORTANT!

[Freitag]

Tony Stewart wants to drive Chevys.

Tony Stewart is good friends with Dale Jr.

Rick Hendrick has no issue firing underperforming drivers.

Man, Casey Mears must be sweating right now.

[Jughead]

Hey kiddos,

I'll be at Talladega this weekend shooting some B-roll. Woo Hoo! My first live Nascar event!

Who wants a Talladega beer cozy?

That is awesome Zeppy...Have fun ....:drunk:

[Jughead]

I'm leaving for Talladega in a few minutes! Woo Hoo! Me and 200,000 of my closest buddays for the next two days. I can't wait.

Lucky Guy....:bye:

[Tenbatsuzen]

Wow, is Kevin Lepage an idiot?

[cougarjake13]

Wow, is Kevin Lepage an idiot?

dont know

why what did he do ??

[Tenbatsuzen]

dont know

why what did he do ??

Merged onto the track getting up to speed with the entire field (at full speed) directly behind him. Took out a shitload of cars.

[cougarjake13]

Merged onto the track getting up to speed with the entire field (at full speed) directly behind him. Took out a shitload of cars.

fucking dumbass

[led37zep]

I was in the infield when that huge crash took place. I didn't get a good view of it, I just saw half a car being towed off the course. I'm going to try and take some pics tomorrow and post of in this thread.



I know this tho, I'm now a big fan of live races.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Jr's car is fubared.

[Reephdweller]

Nice finish for Kyle and Denny. Great race.

[Tenbatsuzen]

After all of that, Jr. only lost 1 point in the standings. I'll take it!

[Freakshow]

Mabye JP should have the Juicyfruit car more often. Some real nice moves at the end.

[scottinnj]

Once again, Jeff Gordon and Jimmy Johnson can 69 each other. Before the restart that occurred ahead of the Stewart caution that Dale got caught up in, I heard him on the radio saying "I don't trust the 88" and left him to dry following another driver instead of his TEAM MATE, who seemed to have no problem at all earlier in the race working with his spotter to tell JG to pass him so he could get a lap lead and get 5 points.

Well, leaving Dale out to dry put him in the middle of where Tony's accident took out 8 cars.

Nice thing about the finish is Dale hooked up with Jamie McMurray and in 3 laps went from 29th to 10th. It's too bad Jamie lost a tire at the end of that run, he could have enjoyed a top ten as well. Good part about it is the HMS drivers who ran as TEAM MATES, Dale Jr. and Casey Mears finished top ten. The two cocksuckers, Jeff Gordon and his bitch Jimmie Johnson, lost track position and also standings in the overall points.

[scottinnj]

After all of that, Jr. only lost 1 point in the standings. I'll take it!

Even better, now that the dust settled, Dale and the top three didn't move. NICE!

[scottinnj]

BTW, the drafting at Dega was weird. Two cars drafted better then three cars, three cars did better then five cars, and five cars making a run on the outside lane could dominate a ten or twelve car train on the inside lane.

Made for some awesome racing.

[Tenbatsuzen]

BTW, the drafting at Dega was weird. Two cars drafted better then three cars, three cars did better then five cars, and five cars making a run on the outside lane could dominate a ten or twelve car train on the inside lane.

Made for some awesome racing.

DW said this a lot on the broadcast, and I agree; the COT is a lot better for bumping than the old cars are. There is NO WAY you'd see the shit we saw today with the old car without MASSIVE accidents.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I said this on FARK, bears repeating here:

Juan Pablo Montoya is a shitty driver, but has hilarious commercials. He's basically the Latin Michael Waltrip.






I wish I had a guy who plays piano and whispers "Nobody"...

[scottinnj]

DW said this a lot on the broadcast, and I agree; the COT is a lot better for bumping than the old cars are. There is NO WAY you'd see the shit we saw today with the old car without MASSIVE accidents.

And 4 wide ALL THE WAY THROUGH the turns! Talladega w/the COT = Amazing!

[scottinnj]

Did JPM take out Paul Menard there at the end of the race? Or did Paul realize he was doing well and panic?

Either way, I'm not crying for Paul, but sometimes JPM gets shit on for taking out other drivers, no matter the douchebaggery they are doing in front of him.

[PapaBear]

I just finished watching the race. Montoya really is not good with this type of racing. There was one point, when he was in second, and he just kept moving from right to left when trying to bump the guy in first (can't remember who was ahead of him). It's pure luck that he didn't cause a crash in the front of the field. He sucks.

[joethebartender]

I just finished watching the race. Montoya really is not good with this type of racing. There was one point, when he was in second, and he just kept moving from right to left when trying to bump the guy in first (can't remember who was ahead of him). It's pure luck that he didn't cause a crash in the front of the field. He sucks.

I don't like him in NASCAR either...but to say he sucks, well...

2008 Rolex 24 Hour
The Chip Ganassi with Felix Sabates racing program became the first team to capture three straight Rolex 24 victories with a win by the No. 01 TELMEX/Target Lexus Riley and drivers Scott Pruett, Memo Rojas, Juan Pablo Montoya and Dario Franchitti.

http://www.daytona24hr.com/24hr2008/dp01wins.jpg

[PapaBear]

I don't like him in NASCAR either...but to say he sucks, well...

2008 Rolex 24 Hour
The Chip Ganassi with Felix Sabates racing program became the first team to capture three straight Rolex 24 victories with a win by the No. 01 TELMEX/Target Lexus Riley and drivers Scott Pruett, Memo Rojas, Juan Pablo Montoya and Dario Franchitti.

http://www.daytona24hr.com/24hr2008/dp01wins.jpg
By "sucks", I mean he sucks in NASCAR. He just hasn't learned how to race that race.

[ScottFromGA]

I though Montoya did a great job, the deal between him and Menard was that Montoya got a good run underneath him, Menard tryed to block him spinning himself out. Give and Take is a great term for Talladega. True, Montoya forced his way through.....but that much left in the race and Menard had a great car....he could have back up and made a run back.

on another note, isn't it kinda "funny" how no one has blamed Junior for that 1st big wreck? True, Tony shouldn't have made it 4 or 5 wide there, but Junior didn't exactly hold his line at all.

I seen them run 5 wide around that track many times yesterday....mean to tell me that the Great One, that hasn't won a restrictor plate race in ages, couldn't hold his line?:blink:

[led37zep]

Hey guys,

We ended up being pretty busy so I wasn't able to get that many shots of the race but here are a few I snapped with my phone.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/led37zep/IMG_0119.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/led37zep/IMG_0121.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/led37zep/IMG_0122.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/led37zep/IMG_0123.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/led37zep/IMG_0124.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/led37zep/IMG_0125.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/led37zep/IMG_0126.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/led37zep/IMG_0127.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/led37zep/IMG_0128.jpg

[Freakshow]

I just finished watching the race. Montoya really is not good with this type of racing. There was one point, when he was in second, and he just kept moving from right to left when trying to bump the guy in first (can't remember who was ahead of him). It's pure luck that he didn't cause a crash in the front of the field. He sucks.

I don't think that's what was going on. I was watching from about 20 laps to go, at which point he pushed Kyle Busch to the front (who thanked him repeatedly after the race, by the way). A few laps later there was a group that was trying to do the same thing on the outside, and he started weaving back and forth (all the cars on the inside line we doing this) and the ouside line losts its momentum. I have to think he was trying to break the draft of the outside line, cause it was effective. And the last two or three laps he made a move to outside, cut back to the inside and got himself back into second, were just pure racing moves. I almost think if the caution didn't come out, he would have had a shot at winning the thing.

He won on ovals in Cart, he won on road courses in F1 (including Monaco--the toughest race in the world), and the rolex 24 hours race twice, as point out above. He was a far superior open wheel racer to Tony Stewart, so I think he's going to be as good as Stewart with experience, and a few friends (looks like he's on his way--I saw Jeff Gordon giving him a push, and his old teammate David Stremme).

And his finish put him into 12th in the chase, so don't expect him to go anywhere.

[joethebartender]

Hey guys,

We ended up being pretty busy so I wasn't able to get that many shots of the race but here are a few I snapped with my phone.



Too bad you couldn't get close to the drivers. Wow. (Just kidding!) Were you carrying an air-wrench at any point?

[led37zep]

Too bad you couldn't get close to the drivers. Wow. (Just kidding!) Were you carrying an air-wrench at any point?

No, but I'm going to start asking chicks if they want to play with my "Air Wrench" at all future races.

[scottinnj]

The polls are open at NASCAR.com to vote on your driver to get into the All Star Race at Lowes Motorspeedway. My guy is already in, so I'm voting like crazy for Kasey Kahne, as a bunch of my friends are big fans of his.

Anyhow, Here is the Link to the page you vote on. (http://www.nascar.com/promos/allstar/vote/) Have fun and good luck to your driver getting in.