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JustJon
07-21-2008, 09:57 AM
I need to buy a copy of "The Boys" ... because they seem like the shit ... I am thinking movie ()write that down).

two trades so far, great series.

djjd
07-21-2008, 10:48 AM
just picked up scott mcclouds "zot" collection, it's all the black and white issues, i have some of the original eclipse comics, kinda cool stuff, american manga type comic from the late 80's

got "all star batman and robin" tpb and the "batman and son" tpb

JustJon
07-21-2008, 01:44 PM
just picked up scott mcclouds "zot" collection, it's all the black and white issues, i have some of the original eclipse comics, kinda cool stuff, american manga type comic from the late 80's

got "all star batman and robin" tpb and the "batman and son" tpb

I love Zot, never read the whole series, just the first color trade years ago. need to pick up the new trade.

Batman and Son ws great, as was the story that came after it. All Star has its own thread...

djjd
07-21-2008, 02:49 PM
I love Zot, never read the whole series, just the first color trade years ago. need to pick up the new trade.

it's a weird compilation, it's almost 600 pages (it's bigger than a paperback, but not as big as a TPB) and it collects the black and white comics, which means it starts with issue #11. (the first 10 were colour books)

it also leaves out issues that scott mccloud didn't illustrate, which means that the story "getting to 99" is not included, all that being said, it's a well put together compilation with lot's of liner notes and other extras

JustJon
07-22-2008, 09:26 AM
it's a weird compilation, it's almost 600 pages (it's bigger than a paperback, but not as big as a TPB) and it collects the black and white comics, which means it starts with issue #11. (the first 10 were colour books)

it also leaves out issues that scott mccloud didn't illustrate, which means that the story "getting to 99" is not included, all that being said, it's a well put together compilation with lot's of liner notes and other extras

I'll have to see what the color trades have covered. At the very least I know the first color trade had the first 10 issues.

Sheeplovr
07-23-2008, 02:23 AM
i want to get bone

list of things i need is a mile long

JustJon
07-23-2008, 09:10 AM
i want to get bone

list of things i need is a mile long

The individual B&W trades? The all in one trade? The color Scholastic trades?

TheMojoPin
07-23-2008, 09:46 AM
The individual B&W trades? The all in one trade? The color Scholastic trades?

Hopefully the color trades. The coloring they did is amazing and I think really adds to the stories. And don't get the omnibus trade...it falls apart once you're about halfway through.

AnnoyedGrunt
07-23-2008, 12:23 PM
I don't know, I've read the Bone omnibus three or four times and it's still in fine condition.

TheMojoPin
07-23-2008, 03:04 PM
I don't know, I've read the Bone omnibus three or four times and it's still in fine condition.

All I know is we always had to return it back to the publisher damaged every few months at my old bookstore. Granted, people are animals when browsing, but softcover collections that big are generally a bad idea for something you open up more than once in a blue moon.

JustJon
07-24-2008, 09:05 AM
I have the first two trades, original pressing (they changed the issues in it when they reprinted), and all the original issues from about 15 up to the end. After I saw the color trades, I started picking up those hardcovers.

EliSnow
08-12-2008, 05:42 AM
For you Batman fans out there, especially those who are enjoying Batman RIP, I just read some news (http://newsarama.com/comics/080727-didio-gaiman.html)that may interest you.

The news has been out for two weeks now, but apparently, following Batman RIP, Neil Gaiman will be writing a two part Batman story called "Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader," an obvious reference to Alan Moore's classic Supes tale "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow."

Now a part of me sort of dislikes the use of this title, and fears that this will start a wave of such comics, including "Whatever Happened to the Amazon Princess," "Whatever Happened to the Fastest Man Alive," and "Whatever Happened to the Pinko Liberal Treehugger Archer?"

However, I do like the concept, and Neil Gaiman on Batman really makes me happy. I don't think this will match Alan Moore's original, but with Gaiman on board, it could get close.

Columbus
08-12-2008, 06:13 AM
I am really enjoying the Batman RIP Series and I am catching up on older Batman Series. Are there any you might recomend? I would like to hear what you think.

EliSnow
08-12-2008, 06:25 AM
I am really enjoying the Batman RIP Series and I am catching up on older Batman Series. Are there any you might recomend? I would like to hear what you think.

I think others have answered this question pretty well. I liked Batman Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, Long Halloween, Dark Victory, The Killing Joke, Mad Love (which is Harley Quinn/Joker one-shot), any Detective Comics written by Greg Rucka.

But maybe the best Batman stories have been on Batman: The Animated Series, and the subsequent Batman tv series. If you haven't seen any of that, go get it. Rent eps at Blockbuster or Netflix. There's some okay and bad stories, but I think it's the best Batman stuff out there.

I really don't like most of the Batman crossovers DC has done within the last 15 years or so (Knightfall, War Games, etc.)

Columbus
08-12-2008, 06:39 AM
I think others have answered this question pretty well. I liked Batman Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, Long Halloween, Dark Victory, The Killing Joke, Mad Love (which is Harley Quinn/Joker one-shot), any Detective Comics written by Greg Rucka.

But maybe the best Batman stories have been on Batman: The Animated Series, and the subsequent Batman tv series. If you haven't seen any of that, go get it. Rent eps at Blockbuster or Netflix. There's some okay and bad stories, but I think it's the best Batman stuff out there.

I really don't like most of the Batman crossovers DC has done within the last 15 years or so (Knightfall, War Games, etc.)

I picked up the legand of the Dark Knight yesterday. I am picking up those others today. Thanks...I have some of the tv stuff. It is really good.

djjd
08-12-2008, 06:56 AM
I don't know, I've read the Bone omnibus three or four times and it's still in fine condition.

me too, i've got the huge B&W TPB, read it about 3 times no problem

djjd
08-12-2008, 07:00 AM
took some old trades on vacation

Supreme: The Return & Story of the Year

the first 5 Powers

and Matt Wagner's Trinity (Superman, Wonder Woman & Batman)

some good reading

EliSnow
08-12-2008, 07:02 AM
took some old trades on vacation

Supreme: The Return & Story of the Year

the first 5 Powers

and Matt Wagner's Trinity (Superman, Wonder Woman & Batman)

some good reading

I'm a huge Powers fan. It's been late for awhile now, but I still love them.

What's a clitoris?

Columbus
08-12-2008, 07:46 AM
Ok I know I really enjoy my batman comics. And there are a few others I really like. But what else is good that I can catch up on easily and with out spending a hell of a lot.

EliSnow
08-12-2008, 08:36 AM
Ok I know I really enjoy my batman comics. And there are a few others I really like. But what else is good that I can catch up on easily and with out spending a hell of a lot.

Check out the following, all of which are available in TPB or in some cases are still running.

The aforementioned Powers (starts with Who Killed Retro Girl)
Planetary
All Star Superman (still ongoing)
Authority
Starman
Buffy The Vampire Slayer, season 8 (if you're a fan, and still ongoing)
Gotham Central
Checkmate (Greg Rucka's run)

weekapaugjz
08-12-2008, 08:52 AM
Ok I know I really enjoy my batman comics. And there are a few others I really like. But what else is good that I can catch up on easily and with out spending a hell of a lot.

the sinestro corps war really got me into the ongoing green lantern series.

weekapaugjz
08-12-2008, 08:54 AM
I am really enjoying the Batman RIP Series and I am catching up on older Batman Series. Are there any you might recomend? I would like to hear what you think.

the resurrection of ra's al ghul was really good too.

Columbus
08-12-2008, 08:55 AM
the sinestro corps war really got me into the ongoing green lantern series.

the resurrection of ra's al ghul was really good too.

Thank you Sir. I will check those out.

JustJon
08-12-2008, 08:56 AM
For you Batman fans out there, especially those who are enjoying Batman RIP, I just read some news (http://newsarama.com/comics/080727-didio-gaiman.html)that may interest you.

The news has been out for two weeks now, but apparently, following Batman RIP, Neil Gaiman will be writing a two part Batman story called "Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader," an obvious reference to Alan Moore's classic Supes tale "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow."

Now a part of me sort of dislikes the use of this title, and fears that this will start a wave of such comics, including "Whatever Happened to the Amazon Princess," "Whatever Happened to the Fastest Man Alive," and "Whatever Happened to the Pinko Liberal Treehugger Archer?"

However, I do like the concept, and Neil Gaiman on Batman really makes me happy. I don't think this will match Alan Moore's original, but with Gaiman on board, it could get close.

If you read Lying in the Gutters, and know the significance of Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow, then it sorta gives away the ending of Batman RIP.

booster11373
08-13-2008, 03:19 PM
I just got my hands on an elusive comic gem featuring the work of both Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman

Miracleman or Marvelman if you prefer

Now granted it is in virtual form but its something that I wanted to read for a very long time and since back issues are hard to come by and expensive and legal issues prevent and sort of trade's or reprints this will have to do

KIMOTA

JustJon
08-14-2008, 08:39 AM
I started reading SCUD The Disposible Assassin this morning. Fun book for the first two issues so far.

J.Clints
08-14-2008, 08:58 AM
Can someone tell me What story the Dark Knight is based on?

booster11373
08-14-2008, 09:02 AM
Can someone tell me What story the Dark Knight is based on?

It wasnt based on any one story but had elements from a few different stories and runs

Batman the Long Halloween is a good start

EliSnow
08-14-2008, 09:03 AM
Can someone tell me What story the Dark Knight is based on?

It's not really based on any one Batman story. Obviously it borrow some stuff from different stories, but nothing in particular. For instance, in the comics, the Joker has nothing to do with the creation of Harvey Dent. Nor was Harvey dating Bruce Wayne's ex.

J.Clints
08-14-2008, 09:15 AM
It wasnt based on any one story but had elements from a few different stories and runs

Batman the Long Halloween is a good start

I will check that one out..

It's not really based on any one Batman story. Obviously it borrow some stuff from different stories, but nothing in particular. For instance, in the comics, the Joker has nothing to do with the creation of Harvey Dent. Nor was Harvey dating Bruce Wayne's ex.

Thank you Sir.

Aqualad
08-14-2008, 10:56 AM
If you like "Dark Knight," check out 'Long Halloween', 'Dark Victory', and 'Batman: Year One.'

J.Clints
08-14-2008, 11:00 AM
If you like "Dark Knight," check out 'Long Halloween', 'Dark Victory', and 'Batman: Year One.'

All right.....Is RIP any good?

weekapaugjz
08-14-2008, 11:43 AM
All right.....Is RIP any good?

its pretty bizarre, its only about half way through the run so its still in single issue form. so the trade is still a while out.

donnie_darko
08-14-2008, 11:47 AM
RIP is an ongoing series

if you really like batman start with the ones listed, some of the lesser known series i enjoy are face the face and batman hush, both have harvey in em, and if you really enjoy2 face you'll enjoy face the face i'm gonna say.

dark victory is good stuff too

but the movie shares little with the comic....harvey dent was married, jim gordons daughter was batgirl, the bat car has doors, etc.

a good ongoing series you can check out is batman/superman, those are well drawn and are mostly good stories, there's a few in there that seem a little strange...but i'd feel safe suggesting them.

and when if you really find yourself enjoying them there's always no mans land/cataclysm, and knightfall.

EliSnow
08-14-2008, 11:52 AM
its pretty bizarre, its only about half way through the run so its still in single issue form. so the trade is still a while out.

There's only two more issues of RIP left. It will conclude in October.

Amazon is listing the trade coming out on February 10, 2009.

While it is bizarre, I'm liking it a lot.

EliSnow
08-14-2008, 11:58 AM
but the movie shares little with the comic....harvey dent was married, jim gordons daughter was batgirl, the bat car has doors, etc.


Only one change: In current continuity, Barbara Gordon is Gordon's niece/adopted daughter. His eldest natural child was a son: James, Jr.

When Gordon got a divorce from his first wife, Jim Jr. went with her, and Barbara stayed with Jim.

donnie_darko
08-14-2008, 12:23 PM
current continuity is always funny.
cause it can change next week...

and i was just saying in the movie he had a son and a daughter.....odd thing is in the movie they never show the daughters face.................

"When Gordon got a divorce from his first wife, Jim Jr. went with her, and Barbara stayed with Jim."


i still think hush/hush returns/ face the face/ would be a good starting point for the next film.

EliSnow
08-14-2008, 12:54 PM
current continuity is always funny.
cause it can change next week...

and i was just saying in the movie he had a son and a daughter.....odd thing is in the movie they never show the daughters face.................

"When Gordon got a divorce from his first wife, Jim Jr. went with her, and Barbara stayed with Jim."


i still think hush/hush returns/ face the face/ would be a good starting point for the next film.

I disagree. I think doing Hush would be a mistake, because a) he's not a well known villain, and b) so therefore, you would need to have flashbacks etc. to establish Hush's place in Bat's life. Because that's pretty much the big thing about Hush, a childhood brilliant friend of Wayne's that has a mad-on for him. And I don't think the movies can do flashbacks now. We did it to show Batman's origins in the first movie, but, I think that would slow down a third movie.

The better route, I believe, is to do a variation of Dark Knight Returns in the movie. Remember that in DKR, the police are after Batman in a big, big way. They will be the same way in a third Batman movie. I'm not sure what villain would step in well there (since the villains in DKR are Two-Face, Joker, Supes and the government), but I think that would work.

cougarjake13
08-14-2008, 06:52 PM
I disagree. I think doing Hush would be a mistake, because a) he's not a well known villain, and b) so therefore, you would need to have flashbacks etc. to establish Hush's place in Bat's life. Because that's pretty much the big thing about Hush, a childhood brilliant friend of Wayne's that has a mad-on for him. And I don't think the movies can do flashbacks now. We did it to show Batman's origins in the first movie, but, I think that would slow down a third movie.

The better route, I believe, is to do a variation of Dark Knight Returns in the movie. Remember that in DKR, the police are after Batman in a big, big way. They will be the same way in a third Batman movie. I'm not sure what villain would step in well there (since the villains in DKR are Two-Face, Joker, Supes and the government), but I think that would work.


sounds interesting enough

i wanna read that now

WampusCrandle
08-15-2008, 08:52 AM
so, some may know i work in a library. i have just been asked to join the "readers advisory," which means i help chose books and material and what not. anyway, i have been specifically asked to bring some good graphic novels/ comics into the mix. now, are library has a massive, new budget for a this type of reading. i ask you all, what should go into this collection? im open to all suggestions!

booster11373
08-15-2008, 10:40 AM
so, some may know i work in a library. i have just been asked to join the "readers advisory," which means i help chose books and material and what not. anyway, i have been specifically asked to bring some good graphic novels/ comics into the mix. now, are library has a massive, new budget for a this type of reading. i ask you all, what should go into this collection? im open to all suggestions!

There would seem to be a few must haves but ....

1. Watchmen

EliSnow
08-15-2008, 10:51 AM
so, some may know i work in a library. i have just been asked to join the "readers advisory," which means i help chose books and material and what not. anyway, i have been specifically asked to bring some good graphic novels/ comics into the mix. now, are library has a massive, new budget for a this type of reading. i ask you all, what should go into this collection? im open to all suggestions!

There would seem to be a few must haves but ....

1. Watchmen

Watchmen, Maus, Sandman, Ultimate Spider-man first couple of trades, Ultimates, v. 1 and 2; Kingdom Come; DKR, Marvels;

booster11373
08-15-2008, 11:56 AM
Watchmen, Maus, Sandman, Ultimate Spider-man first couple of trades, Ultimates, v. 1 and 2; Kingdom Come; DKR, Marvels;

I am going to respectfully disagree and say no way to "The Ultimates" I don't feel that they have any kind of literaterary value at all

They were the equivalent of a pop corn movie

But I would add Superman "For all Seasons"

and Superman "Secret Identity"

EliSnow
08-15-2008, 12:01 PM
I am going to respectfully disagree and say no way to "The Ultimates" I don't feel that they have any kind of literaterary value at all

They were the equivalent of a pop corn movie




So you don't think this library has books that are the equivalent of pop corn movies? They don't have any books by Grisham, James Patterson, or romance books or anything considered a beach or plane book? Because if it doesn't, then maybe I'd agree with you.

I think if you're going to have graphic novels or comic books, you should have those with serious literary value, but also those with pure entertainment value.

booster11373
08-15-2008, 12:07 PM
So you don't think this library has books that are the equivalent of pop corn movies? They don't have any books by Grisham, James Patterson, or romance books or anything considered a beach or plane book? Because if it doesn't, then maybe I'd agree with you.

I think if you're going to have graphic novels or comic books, you should have those with serious literary value, but also those with pure entertainment value.

you may be right (you are) its just I dont think 10 years from now people will still be talking about The Ultimates they way some of the other books listed will be

EliSnow
08-15-2008, 12:13 PM
you may be right (you are) its just I dont think 10 years from now people will still be talking about The Ultimates they way some of the other books listed will be

They will be talking about v.2 as one of the best "Avengers" books ever. Will they rank it with Watchmen and DKR and Sandman? No, but there's not many comic books you would rank with those.

Most of the books in the library aren't remembered as well as War and Peace, Mark Twain, Tale of Two Cities, etc.

I think you have to mix it up a little. Some people like younger kids may be turned off by Watchmen, DKR, Sandman, etc.

boobieman
08-15-2008, 01:56 PM
If anyone wants a really good read. Punisher MAX series. Garth Ennis just ended his run. The whole series is great, but the last story arc was excellent. Issues 55-60 which just came out last week called Valley Forge, Valley Forge. Not your typical super hero shoot and kill your bad guy, just a really good read. More of a sort of reflection on the Vietnam war. And how it sort of a look at the war going on today.

The collection of these issues will be out in a few month.

SEEYAYAYAYAAAAAAAAAA

EliSnow
08-15-2008, 03:54 PM
I just remembered one other group of books that should be in the library: Y The Last Man.

MIKEYDAKEN
08-15-2008, 05:47 PM
did anyone bring up the Ed brubaker run of Daredevil. really good stuff and real street level

AnnoyedGrunt
08-15-2008, 07:07 PM
If anyone wants a really good read. Punisher MAX series. Garth Ennis just ended his run. The whole series is great, but the last story arc was excellent. Issues 55-60 which just came out last week called Valley Forge, Valley Forge. Not your typical super hero shoot and kill your bad guy, just a really good read. More of a sort of reflection on the Vietnam war. And how it sort of a look at the war going on today.

The collection of these issues will be out in a few month.

SEEYAYAYAYAAAAAAAAAA


I only read Punisher MAX in trade so maybe I'll eat my words in a few months, but I wish they had chosen someone other than Goran Parlov as the artist. I find his work to be hit and miss. Ennis deserves to go out with a top notch talent. Considering the story is connected to Born, Darick Robertson would have been my pick.

However, I did read that Ennis has one more story coming out in the near future. It's a follow up to Welcome Back, Frank that's being released to tie in with the new movie.

MIKEYDAKEN
08-15-2008, 07:25 PM
did anyone bring up the Ed brubaker run of Daredevil. really good stuff and real street level

I ment to say the bendis run not brubaker

boobieman
08-16-2008, 11:02 AM
I only read Punisher MAX in trade so maybe I'll eat my words in a few months, but I wish they had chosen someone other than Goran Parlov as the artist. I find his work to be hit and miss. Ennis deserves to go out with a top notch talent. Considering the story is connected to Born, Darick Robertson would have been my pick.

However, I did read that Ennis has one more story coming out in the near future. It's a follow up to Welcome Back, Frank that's being released to tie in with the new movie.

It is a 6 part weekly series..Punisher War Zone. It is going to deal with the Gnucci's family again. Starting in December. Also Ennis said in a interview that he will return to the Punisher in the future. He said I just love writing this character.

The art work in the last story arc for the MAX series I thought was really good. The art work for the upcoming arc is ok, not as sharp. If you want to see bad art work, read Punisher War Journal, current issues...I HATE IT. Like the story but hate the art.

SEEYAYAYAYAAAA

Foster
08-16-2008, 12:53 PM
Just finished reading the first two trades for the Boys, I really got into it.
I forgot who recommended it on this thread, but thanks.
It didn't disappoint.

JustJon
08-17-2008, 06:08 PM
For the library, (should this be its own thread?) add V for Vendetta, Ex Machina, Y: The Last Man, and Preacher.

Sheeplovr
08-18-2008, 05:17 AM
(should this be its own thread?) .

HERE (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1825642#post1825642)

done and done

JustJon
08-18-2008, 08:38 AM
HERE (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1825642#post1825642)

done and done

good jorb

J.Clints
08-18-2008, 09:13 AM
For the library, (should this be its own thread?) add V for Vendetta, Ex Machina, Y: The Last Man, and Preacher.

add V for Vendetta? Is there a comic? Or is a Novel? I would like to find it. Loved the movie.

EliSnow
08-18-2008, 09:20 AM
add V for Vendetta? Is there a comic? Or is a Novel? I would like to find it. Loved the movie.

V For Vendetta was a comic book written by Alan Moore in the '80's. It blows the movie away.

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/3627/400/3627_4_01.jpg

http://neverneutral.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/v4vendettaidea2.jpg

J.Clints
08-18-2008, 09:29 AM
V For Vendetta was a comic book written by Alan Moore in the '80's. It blows the movie away.

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/3627/400/3627_4_01.jpg

http://neverneutral.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/v4vendettaidea2.jpg

Is it easy to find? And do you know how many Issues are out there?

EliSnow
08-18-2008, 09:33 AM
Is it easy to find? And do you know how many Issues are out there?

You can find it in trade paperback on Amazon (http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/3627/400/3627_4_01.jpg)or at virtually any book store like Barnes & Noble or Borders.

WampusCrandle
08-18-2008, 11:01 AM
Watchmen, Maus, Sandman, Ultimate Spider-man first couple of trades, Ultimates, v. 1 and 2; Kingdom Come; DKR, Marvels;

I just remembered one other group of books that should be in the library: Y The Last Man.



For the library, (should this be its own thread?) add V for Vendetta, Ex Machina, Y: The Last Man, and Preacher.

im writing this down and going to bring it to my reader's advisory meeting to get them in the library by the end of the month!

J.Clints
08-18-2008, 11:02 AM
You can find it in trade paperback on Amazon (http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/3627/400/3627_4_01.jpg)or at virtually any book store like Barnes & Noble or Borders.

Well What I am asking is it all one book now?

EliSnow
08-18-2008, 11:06 AM
Well What I am asking is it all one book now?

I guess I could have been clearer and said it was collected in one trade paperback ("TPB's), but so you know, TPB's at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, etc are collections of a groups of issues.

In this case, the book being sold is the entire V for Vendetta mini-series sold in one collection. I included a link to Amazon in my post above that shows it.

J.Clints
08-18-2008, 11:07 AM
I guess I could have been clearer and said it was collected in one trade paperback ("TPB's), but so you know, TPB's at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, etc are collections of a groups of issues.

In this case, the book being sold is the entire V for Vendetta mini-series sold in one collection. I included a link to Amazon in my post above that shows it.
Thank you I will be picking it up soon.

badorties
08-18-2008, 11:14 AM
loved these books:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f0/Prideofbaghdad.jpg/180px-Prideofbaghdad.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_of_baghdad)

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/23585/200/23585_2_001.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalped)

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/23585/200/23585_2_007.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalped)


but this book just blew me away, and i've loved everything by this guy:

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/31030/200/31030_2_001.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/Too-Cool-Forgotten-Alex-Robinson/dp/1891830988/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219086754&sr=8-1)

AnnoyedGrunt
08-18-2008, 12:36 PM
The art work in the last story arc for the MAX series I thought was really good. The art work for the upcoming arc is ok, not as sharp. If you want to see bad art work, read Punisher War Journal, current issues...I HATE IT. Like the story but hate the art.

I'd have to disagree with you there. I hate both the writing AND the art on War Journal. I know everyone online loves him but Matt Fraction may be my least favourite regular Punisher writer ever.

JustJon
08-19-2008, 08:47 AM
I'd have to disagree with you there. I hate both the writing AND the art on War Journal. I know everyone online loves him but Matt Fraction may be my least favourite regular Punisher writer ever.

You must have missed alot of those 90s Punisher books.

TheMojoPin
08-19-2008, 08:51 AM
You must have missed alot of those 90s Punisher books.

No kidding. Outside of Ennis, the Punisher has mostly been a terrible character. I'm really liking Matt Fraction's work, but this writing for the Punisher has been a huge stumble.

TheMojoPin
08-19-2008, 08:53 AM
http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/23585/200/23585_2_001.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalped)

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/23585/200/23585_2_007.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalped)

Great call on this series. Quality crime/noir series are few and far between these days, and this one is one of the best by far.

but this book just blew me away, and i've loved everything by this guy:

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/31030/200/31030_2_001.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/Too-Cool-Forgotten-Alex-Robinson/dp/1891830988/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219086754&sr=8-1)

Alex Robinson is the man. I was worried this one was gonna be real cheesy and cliche based on the description, but it ended up being one of the best books I've read all year. I was only let down that it was so short compared to Box Office Poison and Tricked.

EliSnow
08-21-2008, 06:03 AM
For anyone who is a fan of sort of old-fashioned, fun space-based books, I have to recommend picking up the Annihilation trades, and then getting into the new Guardians of the Galaxy.

These books have been a lot of fun, and good reads. The new Guardians is a really good book. Reminds me of some of Peter David's work mixed in with some Geoff Johns and others.

J.Clints
08-26-2008, 05:50 AM
I have been reading the Batman RIP comics and I am confussed. What Comics go with this series and which ones are out? Please help I think I am loosing it.

EliSnow
08-26-2008, 06:12 AM
I have been reading the Batman RIP comics and I am confussed. What Comics go with this series and which ones are out? Please help I think I am loosing it.

It's just the Batman series; Batman ##676-681. However, there are numerous threads in that series that were started earlier in Morrison's run. So essentially, Morrison's entire run is needed for this.

J.Clints
08-26-2008, 07:28 AM
It's just the Batman series; Batman ##676-681. However, there are numerous threads in that series that were started earlier in Morrison's run. So essentially, Morrison's entire run is needed for this.

So Is all his stuff the RIP stuff? and Has the Joker / Scarecrow stuff came out yet.

EliSnow
08-26-2008, 07:33 AM
So Is all his stuff the RIP stuff?

Yes and no. Batman RIP is the last arc in his run, but the other arcs established certain plot points, including stuff happening to the Joker, the "club" of Batmen, Black Glove, and his son, that lead into RIP.

and Has the Joker / Scarecrow stuff came out yet.

What stuff? I know the Joker is part of RIP -- I'm not sure that Scarecrow is, so I don't know the stuff to which you refer.

J.Clints
08-26-2008, 07:35 AM
Yes and no. Batman RIP is the last arc in his run, but the other arcs established certain plot points, including stuff happening to the Joker, the "club" of Batmen, Black Glove, and his son, that lead into RIP.



What stuff? I know the Joker is part of RIP -- I'm not sure that Scarecrow is, so I don't know the stuff to which you refer.

Jokers Asylum. The Scarecrow.......I think it is advertised in one of the batman RIP issues. Sorry I ask so many questions.

EliSnow
08-26-2008, 07:49 AM
Jokers Asylum. The Scarecrow.......I think it is advertised in one of the batman RIP issues. Sorry I ask so many questions.

I don't think that series has anything to do with RIP and/or is not necessary to read for RIP.

I'm not sure though, because I'm not reading it.

J.Clints
08-26-2008, 07:50 AM
I don't think that series has anything to do with RIP and/or is not necessary to read for RIP.

I'm not sure though, because I'm not reading it.

I do not think it has anything to do with RIP but I am going to check it out.im Trying to find stuff to check out.

Aqualad
08-26-2008, 12:20 PM
Nothing has anything to do with RIP. Detective, Robin, Nightwing-- they're the most unessential tie-in issues since Secret Wars 2.

weekapaugjz
09-11-2008, 01:17 PM
bump

i miss this thread being posted in.

so for discussions sake, who is your current favorite writer? for me it's geoff johns. i have loved his work on green lantern (sinestro corps war, secret origin) and his stuff on action comics (superman and the legion of superheroes, brainiac).

also, i am getting really sick of the secret invasion in marvel. it seems all their books have something to do with it and it is getting old.

ive been loving the tie ins with final crisis especially revelations, rogues revenge, and legion of three worlds. i can't wait for the rage of the red lanterns to come out in october.

EliSnow
09-11-2008, 01:46 PM
bump

i miss this thread being posted in.

so for discussions sake, who is your current favorite writer? for me it's geoff johns. i have loved his work on green lantern (sinestro corps war, secret origin) and his stuff on action comics (superman and the legion of superheroes, brainiac).

also, i am getting really sick of the secret invasion in marvel. it seems all their books have something to do with it and it is getting old.

ive been loving the tie ins with final crisis especially revelations, rogues revenge, and legion of three worlds. i can't wait for the rage of the red lanterns to come out in october.

I've been enjoying Secret Invasion much more than Crisis, but with both books I haven't been following all the tie-ins. Absolutely no need. For me Chrisis is being too weird, which Morrison can do from time to time. I am enjoying rogues revenge, but legion of three worlds is too early too judge.

Geoff Johns is my favorite writer at DC by far. Warren Ellis may be my favorite writer period right now. At Marvel Brubaker is my favorite with Captain America, Daredevil, (formerly) Iron Fist, and Uncanny, although Uncanny isn't as good as the others.

But I still like Bendis too. I know why people bitch but I enjoy his writing.

TheMojoPin
09-11-2008, 02:37 PM
I've been enjoying Secret Invasion much more than Crisis, but with both books I haven't been following all the tie-ins. Absolutely no need. For me Chrisis is being too weird, which Morrison can do from time to time. I am enjoying rogues revenge, but legion of three worlds is too early too judge.

Crisis seems to be plaing out like all of Morrison's big storylines: they're frustrating as hell to get through on a month by month basis, but then it kills when it's all done and collected.

Of course, I am biased since he's my favorite comic writer.

Geoff Johns is my favorite writer at DC by far. Warren Ellis may be my favorite writer period right now. At Marvel Brubaker is my favorite with Captain America, Daredevil, (formerly) Iron Fist, and Uncanny, although Uncanny isn't as good as the others.

I like Johns as a really solid workhorse of a scribe, but he just doesn't have a "voice" to me. Not that that's a bad thing...it allows him to write many different types of characters very well...I just don't find him all that "WOW!"

Ellis is the man. Brubaker kicks ass, too, though I can't really fault him for the X-Men stuff. That mutant crap hangs up almost any writer, no matter how good they are.

But I still like Bendis too. I know why people bitch but I enjoy his writing.

Love Bendis' stuff, too, but he's like Morrison to me...agony to read monthly, a genius when it's all collected.

cougarjake13
09-11-2008, 02:45 PM
so whats been happening in the new running of thor ??


after the 5th issue i just havent been able to get around and get any new issues

EliSnow
09-11-2008, 02:47 PM
so whats been happening in the new running of thor ??


after the 5th issue i just havent been able to get around and get any new issues

Loki is making her move, and poisoning the relationship between Balder and Thor.

I've really been liking the book since JMS took over.

cougarjake13
09-11-2008, 02:51 PM
Loki is making her move, and poisoning the relationship between Balder and Thor.

I've really been liking the book since JMS took over.




when did loki become a she ???

JustJon
09-11-2008, 06:40 PM
Fave writers: (mostly not in order, except #1)

Neil Gaiman tops this list
Brian K. Vaughn
Grant Morrison
Warren Ellis
Geoff Johns is good, but some stories are hit or miss for me
Bendis has a way of nothing happening, even in the collected editions, but you feel like you read something.

Captain Rooster
09-11-2008, 06:42 PM
Is the "X Baby" ... Jean Grey ... that's all I want to know.

Honestly ... I want her back.

JustJon
09-11-2008, 06:44 PM
Is the "X Baby" ... Jean Grey ... that's all I want to know.

Honestly ... I want her back.

Jean or what's left of her is in the heart of a sun or star or whatever.

And who is Mutant Zero?

weekapaugjz
09-11-2008, 06:49 PM
I see warren ellis on a lot of peoples favs but I don't think I have ever read anything of his. What are some suggestions of his stuff should I check out?

Captain Rooster
09-11-2008, 06:53 PM
Jean or what's left of her is in the heart of a sun or star or whatever.

And who is Mutant Zero?

I dont know ... but my interested has been piqued.

MisterSmith
09-11-2008, 07:14 PM
Jean or what's left of her is in the heart of a sun or star or whatever.

And who is Mutant Zero?

I'm betting on Psylocke/Betsy Braddock.

lleeder
09-11-2008, 07:16 PM
Is the "X Baby" ... Jean Grey ... that's all I want to know.

Honestly ... I want her back.

I believe so but I haven't read anything in two months so it might not be her.

CousinDave
09-11-2008, 07:44 PM
What is this new Spider-Man story, I haven't read anything since that awful One More Day story?

JustJon
09-12-2008, 09:00 AM
I'm betting on Psylocke/Betsy Braddock.

Kwannon (sp?) died of the Legacy Virus, Betsy has been in the Claremont X-Men book since the 198.

TheMojoPin
09-12-2008, 09:12 AM
I see warren ellis on a lot of peoples favs but I don't think I have ever read anything of his. What are some suggestions of his stuff should I check out?

Above anything else, Transmetropolitan.

His Wildstorm "trilogy" would be next for me, in this order: Stormwatch - The Authority - Planetary.

I really liked his Global Frequency mini series.

He's doing awesome things right now with the Marvel series Thunderbolts.

Not collected, but the issues are cheap: his run on Doom 2099 is one of the best things ever.

His take on Marvel's failed New Universe line is very good. It's called Newuniversal.

He had a way too short run on Hellblazer that's excellent and collected in a couple of cheap trades.

Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E. is a great superhero parody series he did for Marvel.

He did a re-launch of Iron Man a few years ago that's pretty decent.

He's got a ton of other titles available, but those are, in my opinion, the best ones to start with to get a good across-the-board feel for his writing, especially the first two suggestions.

donnie_darko
09-12-2008, 09:28 AM
i'm really enjoying doktor sleepless, invincible, walking dead a lot.

"Geoff Johns is my favorite writer at DC by far. Warren Ellis may be my favorite writer period right now. At Marvel Brubaker is my favorite with Captain America, Daredevil, (formerly) Iron Fist, and Uncanny, although Uncanny isn't as good as the others.

But I still like Bendis too. I know why people bitch but I enjoy his writing."

i'll have to agree with you there as well, i can't deal with iron fist any longer without brubaker, but captain america/daredevil are always good, i'm wondering whats up with all the lady bullseye ads i've been seeing.


and i still dont quite see how the new squadron supreme stuff fits in with the old ones, i really enjoyed that original series with hyperion etc.

TheMojoPin
09-12-2008, 09:52 AM
i'll have to agree with you there as well, i can't deal with iron fist any longer without brubaker, but captain america/daredevil are always good, i'm wondering whats up with all the lady bullseye ads i've been seeing.

Yeah, IF sucked as soon as Brubaker was gone, but don't forget he wrote that series with Matt Fraction. Fraction is a pretty impressive writer-on-the-rie.

Knowledged_one
09-12-2008, 11:11 AM
I believe so but I haven't read anything in two months so it might not be her.

could be revanche

My guess is Typhoid Mary

EliSnow
09-12-2008, 02:20 PM
Above anything else, Transmetropolitan.

His Wildstorm "trilogy" would be next for me, in this order: Stormwatch - The Authority - Planetary.

I really liked his Global Frequency mini series.

He's doing awesome things right now with the Marvel series Thunderbolts.

Not collected, but the issues are cheap: his run on Doom 2099 is one of the best things ever.

His take on Marvel's failed New Universe line is very good. It's called Newuniversal.

He had a way too short run on Hellblazer that's excellent and collected in a couple of cheap trades.

Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E. is a great superhero parody series he did for Marvel.

He did a re-launch of Iron Man a few years ago that's pretty decent.

He's got a ton of other titles available, but those are, in my opinion, the best ones to start with to get a good across-the-board feel for his writing, especially the first two suggestions.

I'd have to say that Planetary is probably the best work he has ever done. But what would you expect from someone who took his handle from the lead character of the series. The next best I've read is the Authority. Hellblazer run was excellent, and Nextwave was incredible. His run on Thunderbolts (which is over now, I believe) was great tood.

Never read Transmet, so I can't comment on that (I know, I know, no excuses).

One thing I liked that hasn't been mentioned is Orbiter. Also liked Jack Cross a lot -- definitely has a huge 24 vibe to it, but loved it.

The Iron Man relaunch was Iron Man: Extremis that I think was used (in part at least) in the Iron Man movie.

Boiling Ellis down, he may be the best "futurist" in comics today, bringing in scientific concepts better than almost anyone. He also can be controversial and risque. If you ever read his novel, Crooked Little Vein, you would know what I mean. And he's a very funny writer and person. If I had to pick any a seminar/Q&A session for any current comic book writer, it would be his.

donnie_darko
09-12-2008, 02:37 PM
iron man extremis was great, and got me interested in iron man....(which didnt last long)

extremis was great though.

EliSnow
09-12-2008, 02:59 PM
Jean or what's left of her is in the heart of a sun or star or whatever.



Actually, I'm fairly certain they are setting her up as the mutant Messiah featured in Messiax Complex and being raised by Cable in the series Cable. They've had certain visual hints that the baby is Jean.

Aqualad
09-12-2008, 03:15 PM
I

Never read Transmet, so I can't comment on that (I know, I know, no excuses).

Boiling Ellis down, he may be the best "futurist" in comics today, bringing in scientific concepts better than almost anyone. He also can be controversial and risque. If you ever read his novel, Crooked Little Vein, you would know what I mean. And he's a very funny writer and person. If I had to pick any a seminar/Q&A session for any current comic book writer, it would be his.

For fuck's sake, read Transmetropolitan already! Fantastic sci-fi concepts and a very funny main character...it's the quintessential Ellis book.

JustJon
09-12-2008, 06:37 PM
Actually, I'm fairly certain they are setting her up as the mutant Messiah featured in Messiax Complex and being raised by Cable in the series Cable. They've had certain visual hints that the baby is Jean.

I only read trades. And I wouldn't read a Cable trade. So I had no way of knowing that.

AnnoyedGrunt
09-12-2008, 07:05 PM
I only read trades. And I wouldn't read a Cable trade. So I had no way of knowing that.

Your loss.

http://www.zaldivacomics.com/images/gn/feb09_05/cableandthenewmutants_tp%20(Large).jpg

TheMojoPin
09-12-2008, 08:00 PM
Your loss.

http://www.zaldivacomics.com/images/gn/feb09_05/cableandthenewmutants_tp%20(Large).jpg

*BARF*

hedges
09-12-2008, 08:18 PM
Did anyone collect or get a look at the Frank Miller series Ronin (from the mid-eighties). I think it was a six part series, I still have mine tucked away, on a shelf I can't get to right now. I thought it was brilliant.

AnnoyedGrunt
09-12-2008, 08:40 PM
Ronin was interesting. I can't say that I liked Miller's rough, sketchy art style at the beginning but it grew on me. The story was pretty solid from what I remember, but I could see it being seen as fairly inventive in its day. I don't think i really 'got' the ending, but since I don't see a lot of discussion about it online it could be that it just flew over my head.

hedges
09-12-2008, 08:58 PM
I just moved, so I unearthed them for the first time in about ten years. I have them put away now but I'm gonna get them out and flip through them. I just remember loving the artwork

J.Clints
09-12-2008, 10:37 PM
Help me get this little thing started.


http://johnsbackpack.myfreeforum.org/index.php

JustJon
09-13-2008, 06:27 AM
Your loss.

http://www.zaldivacomics.com/images/gn/feb09_05/cableandthenewmutants_tp%20(Large).jpg

You do realize it says Liefeld, right?

donnie_darko
09-13-2008, 07:07 AM
i've been slowly making my way through all the valiant comics.
i'm surprised at how well they hold up.

Aqualad
09-13-2008, 04:46 PM
i've been slowly making my way through all the valiant comics.
i'm surprised at how well they hold up.

I never "got" Valiant. I don't see the appeal.

TheMojoPin
09-13-2008, 08:35 PM
I agree that Valiant was pretty top-notch the first year or two it was around, but it fell off REAL fucking fast when they decided to try and out-Image Image.

Vol. 2 of Jason Lutes' Berlin trilogy finally came out today.

It's good AND good for you, fuckers.

Mike Kingston
09-13-2008, 11:00 PM
The first two issues of my new mini-series Headlocked: The Tryout are available for pre-order. You can read the first issue for free on wowio, if you'd like to see what its all about. Being an indy comic, I need all the help I can get.

Plus its Fez approved!

And seriously, if you're not already....read Scalped. It's awesome!

Mike Kingston
09-13-2008, 11:01 PM
Has anyone here read Arsenic Lullabye? I just got the new compilation...it's so twisted but it cracks me up. Easily the most offensive comic on the shelves...but funny.

donnie_darko
09-15-2008, 11:58 AM
well i read harbinger, then the visitor, it took a couple issues for me to get into it, but i did enjoy it.

and yeah, the later valiant comics are pretty bad, but harbinger and miracleman are good through the initial issues....

CofyCrakCocaine
09-15-2008, 12:59 PM
Valiant comics. Holy hot shit... I haven't even thought of them in years. They disappeared right around the time Starlog did too...

I loved their comics, even the stupid ones like the space viking series. Hard Corps was another.

They definitely jumped themselves right into a pit of shit in the final years though... damn shame. They had far higher quality storylines than any of the Image series of the time.

Come to think of it, the only intelligent storyline I've ever seen from Image showed up some ten years after Valiant disappeared.

donnie_darko
09-15-2008, 01:14 PM
from image i like the walking dead and invincible, though both are re-hashes of old stories...

invincible reminds me of surpremeverse/ult. spiderman combined...

walking dead is a pretty interesting long term take on the zombie thing..pretty cool.

both are ongoing...

TheMojoPin
09-15-2008, 08:38 PM
from image i like the walking dead and invincible, though both are re-hashes of old stories...

invincible reminds me of surpremeverse/ult. spiderman combined...

walking dead is a pretty interesting long term take on the zombie thing..pretty cool.

both are ongoing...

Both are pretty amazing. I have no idea how they could be seen as "rehashes."

donnie_darko
09-15-2008, 09:38 PM
rehashes, well most superheros are very derivative.

have you ever read the surpremeverse stuff? with hyperion? thats what invincible reminded me of.

and walking dead is another zombie story, neither are really breaking any new ground, but they're both excellent stories.

i didnt call them rip off's, i said they are derivative.

even the surpremeverse stuff was obviously a re-telling of superman/batman etc.

anywho.

TheMojoPin
09-16-2008, 07:16 AM
have you ever read the surpremeverse stuff? with hyperion? thats what invincible reminded me of.

I have no idea how, either with the Hyperion stuff in the 80's or the recent relaunch, especially since Hyperion and co. are, for the most part, purposely modeled on the classic DC Silver Age heroes and their origins. Outside of Hyperion and Invincible both having Superman-esque powers, I really don't see much, if anything, similar in how their series or the characters have played out.

and walking dead is another zombie story, neither are really breaking any new ground, but they're both excellent stories.

Just because stories with zombies have existed before doesn't make a new one derivative. WD is very original in the perspective it takes in that it's simply a story of survival. The zombies are almost incidental...you could change the story to be about some kind of animal somehow taking over the world and it would essentially play out the same way. It's very unique in that the focus is on how the survivors survive ad the drama that plays out between them without the short term ideas of "we need to find out what caused this" or "we need to escape for the happy ending" that pretty much all zombie stories had up until WD. The "why" doesn't matter in WD, and there's no escape.

"Derivative" is something that obviously apes something else with little or nothing original being offered. That's hardly the case with either of these titles.

donnie_darko
09-16-2008, 07:22 AM
derivative : originating from, based on, or influenced by

i didnt call them rip off's, i said they are derivative.

TheMojoPin
09-16-2008, 07:24 AM
Fine, but I still think it's silly to call a superhero comic out for being about superheroes or a zombie comic for having zombies in it when both are very original takes on those genres. You're trying to lump them in with everything that came before, and I think that sells them short since both DO break new ground with their respective themes and subjects.

MisterSmith
09-16-2008, 07:53 AM
Fine, but I still think it's silly to call a superhero comic out for being about superheroes or a zombie comic for having zombies in it when both are very original takes on those genres. You're trying to lump them in with everything that came before, and I think that sells them short since both DO break new ground with their respective themes and subjects.

I think you're giving Donnie_Darko a little too much grief on this one. True, the books are unique and very interesting (I love WD), but they are obviously pulling from previous source material. They aren't beholden to the source, but they use certain aspects to gain [reader] attention.

Of course ANY character that has powers even remotely similar to Superman is going to cause some people to draw a parallel. And although it is a new spin, Walking Dead came out during (what some would call) the Zombie Resurgence where Zombies are once again a popular subject for entertainment. It's hard NOT to makea comparison in that type of situation.

In conclusion, while I agree that both are interesting and unique takes on thier respective subjects, they are also derivative of popular superhero and zombie archetypes.

EliSnow
09-16-2008, 07:59 AM
It looks like the problem is the use of the word "rehash." While Walking Dead is derivative of zombie movies, I don't think it's a rehash. A rehash is essentially a remake -- putting a story in another form without material alteration.

Is Squadron Supreme derivative of DC heroes, and the JLA? Sure, but is the Squadron Supreme story by Mark Gruenwalk a "rehash?" No, because that story did something with those characters that up until that point, DC had not done.

TheMojoPin
09-16-2008, 08:07 AM
It looks like the problem is the use of the word "rehash." While Walking Dead is derivative of zombie movies, I don't think it's a rehash. A rehash is essentially a remake -- putting a story in another form without material alteration.

Is Squadron Supreme derivative of DC heroes, and the JLA? Sure, but is the Squadron Supreme story by Mark Gruenwalk a "rehash?" No, because that story did something with those characters that up until that point, DC had not done.

Exactly. Invincible is derivative of the idea of the kid in high school with superpowers, but it's handled it and explored the idea in very unique and creative ways compared to what we've seen before.

EliSnow
09-17-2008, 07:40 AM
The final issue of All-Star Superman comes out today. That will be the first book I read of today's new releases. Great, great series.

On a side note, in looking at the list of today's comic and seeing X-Factor on it, the question came to my mind, which books shouldn't be good but are?

For example, X-Factor. Both of Peter's David's runs on X-Factor are great books, but really should they have been? The first X-Factor was just another way to capitalize on the X-Men and when he took it over, it was the X-Men as run by the government. But it was a really good, humorous book.

This X-Factor is run by the Multiple Man, and has some d-list mutant characters plus a mini-series character that was somewhat annoying (Layla Miller). But David pulls it off, and it's consistently my favorite X-Men book in the last two or so years.

Any other books that people are "surprised" to like?

TheMojoPin
09-17-2008, 07:45 AM
I definitely did not expect to like X-Factor because I've found almost all of David's work to be insufferable over the last decade.

I did not expect to enjoy that last She-Hulk relaunch a couple of years ago as much as I did.

JustJon
09-17-2008, 08:41 AM
I definitely did not expect to like X-Factor because I've found almost all of David's work to be insufferable over the last decade.

I did not expect to enjoy that last She-Hulk relaunch a couple of years ago as much as I did.

I agree on both these. I wanna know the backstory for Layla after that last trade.

ChimneyFish
09-17-2008, 07:22 PM
Finally received and am through the first three chapters of "Watchmen".

So far I am fucking loving this.

Have to reorder the second part of the Nightcrawler series I got.
They refunded my money because they only had one issue left and it was damaged.

donnie_darko
09-17-2008, 07:58 PM
i LOVED the new x-factor, and i thought i was the only one. Who would've thought layla miller would be such a polarizing figure?

i really didn't have much hope in green lantern, i never really found kyle rayner that interesting, but the new direction has been great.

JustJon
09-19-2008, 08:45 AM
Finally received and am through the first three chapters of "Watchmen".

So far I am fucking loving this.

Have to reorder the second part of the Nightcrawler series I got.
They refunded my money because they only had one issue left and it was damaged.

Are you reading the pirate stories at the end of each chapter?

i LOVED the new x-factor, and i thought i was the only one. Who would've thought layla miller would be such a polarizing figure?

i really didn't have much hope in green lantern, i never really found kyle rayner that interesting, but the new direction has been great.

How can you not like Kyle? Hal was fucking boring in the 80s and 90s until they killed him off. Ron Marz writing Kyle was completely original and creative compared to Hal.

Aqualad
09-19-2008, 07:20 PM
How can you not like Kyle? Hal was fucking boring in the 80s and 90s until they killed him off. Ron Marz writing Kyle was completely original and creative compared to Hal.

I hate Hal. Rayner is where it's at.

EliSnow
09-25-2008, 06:26 AM
So I get my comics yesterday, and what do I find?

First, the conclusion of the Deena Pilgrim/Virus storyline in Powers. Wow. I mean it wow. This issue resolves Deena's status in the Powers 'verse, and what the consequences are of her actions while havnig the Powers Virus. Great, great issue, plus a reveal to a longstanding question that could have gone either way, but went the way it should.

Second, I read the conclusion of the Death of Captain America storyline in Captain America. While it left a number of threads open, it was quite a rush of an ending. It really felt like the last episode of an exciting season of 24. Lots, lots of action. Long live Captain America.

Third, Daredevil revealed a new villain that I am cautious about, but so far so good. Brubaker is a god. Well, maybe not a god, but he's a really great comic book writer.

Fourth, Fantastic Four was very very interesting. I think I'm seeing how we get to the next arc, but right now I do have a problem with where the storyline is going. And if anyone saw the season 3 finale of Doctor Who, you may have a similar question. Maybe Millar will answer it, but right now, it's wide open.

Everything else I got was okay.

EliSnow
09-25-2008, 06:36 AM
How can you not like Kyle? Hal was fucking boring in the 80s and 90s until they killed him off. Ron Marz writing Kyle was completely original and creative compared to Hal.

I hate Hal. Rayner is where it's at.

I'm liking what Johns is doing with Hal now, but I really can't see how anyone can complain about Kyle. He really was a great character that added a lot to the mythos.

As was said in the Rebirth mini-series, Kyle kept the Green Lantern tradition going and I believe made it better.

AnnoyedGrunt
09-25-2008, 08:15 AM
I stopped reading comics entirely in 1999 and there were the HEAT guys who wanted Hal back but most people liked Kyle well enough. I get back in to things in 2002 and it seemed like the entire internet decided that they always hated Kyle and that his costume was stupid. Was there a big turning point that I missed or were the fans just be whiners?

JustJon
09-25-2008, 09:01 AM
I stopped reading comics entirely in 1999 and there were the HEAT guys who wanted Hal back but most people liked Kyle well enough. I get back in to things in 2002 and it seemed like the entire internet decided that they always hated Kyle and that his costume was stupid. Was there a big turning point that I missed or were the fans just be whiners?

This is the internet. They're whiners.

jab
09-25-2008, 12:45 PM
war heroes was suprisingly awesome.

but nothing will fill that voidy hole all star superman is leaving.

cougarjake13
09-25-2008, 02:49 PM
So I get my comics yesterday, and what do I find?

First, the conclusion of the Deena Pilgrim/Virus storyline in Powers. Wow. I mean it wow. This issue resolves Deena's status in the Powers 'verse, and what the consequences are of her actions while havnig the Powers Virus. Great, great issue, plus a reveal to a longstanding question that could have gone either way, but went the way it should.

Second, I read the conclusion of the Death of Captain America storyline in Captain America. While it left a number of threads open, it was quite a rush of an ending. It really felt like the last episode of an exciting season of 24. Lots, lots of action. Long live Captain America.

Third, Daredevil revealed a new villain that I am cautious about, but so far so good. Brubaker is a god. Well, maybe not a god, but he's a really great comic book writer.

Fourth, Fantastic Four was very very interesting. I think I'm seeing how we get to the next arc, but right now I do have a problem with where the storyline is going. And if anyone saw the season 3 finale of Doctor Who, you may have a similar question. Maybe Millar will answer it, but right now, it's wide open.

Everything else I got was okay.





is bucky still the new cap ??

TheMojoPin
09-25-2008, 08:56 PM
How has nobody mentioned Darwyn Cooke's take on The Spirit yet? Cooke is the man.

weekapaugjz
09-25-2008, 09:00 PM
How has nobody mentioned Darwyn Cooke's take on The Spirit yet? Cooke is the man.

How many issues in is the series? I havnt seen it at the local shop. I like Cooke too. I'm gonna start reading Superman: kryponite tonight.

TheMojoPin
09-25-2008, 09:05 PM
How many issues in is the series? I havnt seen it at the local shop. I like Cooke too. I'm gonna start reading Superman: kryponite tonight.

That one is great, too.

The first Spirit trade has 6 issues plus the Batman/Spirit one-shot, and the next 6 issue trade is out within a couple weeks, so at least a dozen so far.

weekapaugjz
09-25-2008, 09:11 PM
Cool. Ill have to keep my eye out for the trade. There is a sweet shop in erie pa I go to when I am down there that has pretty much every tpb out. I drop at least 60 bucks everytime I go in.

EliSnow
09-26-2008, 05:50 AM
is bucky still the new cap ??

James Buchanan still is Captain America.

Although if you read the story, there is at least one person disputing that fact.

PhishHead
09-26-2008, 06:15 AM
Wooo Comics!!

cougarjake13
09-26-2008, 05:26 PM
James Buchanan still is Captain America.

Although if you read the story, there is at least one person disputing that fact.

yeh i havent bought any comics since feb or march

ChimneyFish
09-29-2008, 04:12 PM
Finally received and am through the first three chapters of "Watchmen".

So far I am fucking loving this.


Are you reading the pirate stories at the end of each chapter?



There are different things at the end of each chapter.
Only one of them was about the pirate stories that are in the storyline.

Did I not get the right edition or something????:sad:

TheMojoPin
09-29-2008, 05:34 PM
There are different things at the end of each chapter.
Only one of them was about the pirate stories that are in the storyline.

Did I not get the right edition or something????:sad:

You're fine, Jon is mixed up.

ChimneyFish
09-29-2008, 05:51 PM
Was scared there for a little, because there is the pirate comic within the story.



Just started chapter X, and I really don't see how they can pull this off in the theater.

jab
09-29-2008, 06:13 PM
does anybody post the weeks comic releases? would anyone be interested if i do it here on .net? i used to on fba so i wouldnt mind luggin it over like scott did with cd/dvd releases.

ChimneyFish
09-29-2008, 07:16 PM
While I'm just getting back into them and reading older stuff I missed out on, I'm all for it.
It would be nice to see if theree's anything new I might be interested in getting into.

EliSnow
09-30-2008, 05:17 AM
does anybody post the weeks comic releases? would anyone be interested if i do it here on .net? i used to on fba so i wouldnt mind luggin it over like scott did with cd/dvd releases.

I'd advise against posting the entire list, as that can be a pretty huge list. You can post a link to the list.

But even with that, I don't know if there's much interest. I used to post links to the articles about upcoming DC and Marvel releases, but there didn't seem to be too much interest in what Marvel or DC was releasing. A large part of it is because I think the majority of comic book readers here don't collect weekly anymore.

booster11373
09-30-2008, 06:52 AM
I'd advise against posting the entire list, as that can be a pretty huge list. You can post a link to the list.

But even with that, I don't know if there's much interest. I used to post links to the articles about upcoming DC and Marvel releases, but there didn't seem to be too much interest in what Marvel or DC was releasing. A large part of it is because I think the majority of comic book readers here don't collect weekly anymore.

I think, but could be wrong, tha most comics fans know where to get that info if they want it

Aqualad
09-30-2008, 12:59 PM
I'd advise against posting the entire list, as that can be a pretty huge list. You can post a link to the list.

But even with that, I don't know if there's much interest. I used to post links to the articles about upcoming DC and Marvel releases, but there didn't seem to be too much interest in what Marvel or DC was releasing. A large part of it is because I think the majority of comic book readers here don't collect weekly anymore.

How bout people just post their own pull lists, so the rest of us can laugh at your shitty taste.

I've been buying: Batman, Detective, Teen Titans, Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man, Kick-Ass, Final Crisis and assorted tie-ins, Secret Invasion.

I've been trying to make the leap to trades-only, but I can't seem to let go of the weekly habit. My list used to have three times as many titles...

jab
09-30-2008, 03:23 PM
its really not that long of a list, but ok. anywho i do the same on rgf so ill link away, but yeah there are a number of sites that list them too. shrug.


http://www.radiogoldfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6436

EliSnow
09-30-2008, 03:30 PM
How bout people just post their own pull lists, so the rest of us can laugh at your shitty taste.


I used to do that. Didn't get a lot of feedback on it, either negative or positive.

Aqualad
09-30-2008, 03:37 PM
I used to do that. Didn't get a lot of feedback on it, either negative or positive.

Post it again, I'll give you feedback.

I sometimes feel kind of guilty that my list is exclusively Marvel/DC superhero stuff. I like lots of different types of comics but the non-superhero titles didn't seem to make the cut when I pared down to save money.

EliSnow
10-01-2008, 07:06 AM
Okay, it looks like a slow comics week this week. I'll be buying Batman and Top Ten Season #2 (though not expecting a lot from it). I'm also getting Hellboy: The Crooked Man #2 and #3. My shop were sold out of these two when I went to buy them, but they reordered for me.

donnie_darko
10-01-2008, 07:12 AM
anyone else read golly?
oddly intriguing.

weekapaugjz
10-01-2008, 12:45 PM
Okay, it looks like a slow comics week this week. I'll be buying Batman and Top Ten Season #2 (though not expecting a lot from it). I'm also getting Hellboy: The Crooked Man #2 and #3. My shop were sold out of these two when I went to buy them, but they reordered for me.

very slow week. i only picked up batman and trinity. i saw the list of delays from dc last week for october and it was long. shop owner said the same thing for marvel.

anyone else still reading trinity?

donnie_darko
10-01-2008, 12:55 PM
i started reading trinity 15....and seriously just said "WHY THE FUCK AM I READING THIS" and just stopped.

it's just not interesting, neither the story or art have done anything for me.

guess we'll wait to see what this lady bullseye is about.....

Aqualad
10-01-2008, 01:30 PM
This week I'm getting Batman, Teen Titans, Terror Titans (if it looks good), Deadpool #2 (maybe). That's probably it.

Anybody read the Star Wars comics? I am kind of intrigued by the premise of "Legacy" but I am hesitant to jump into a new universe and have to play catchup.

Aqualad
10-01-2008, 01:31 PM
Okay, it looks like a slow comics week this week. I'll be buying Batman and Top Ten Season #2 (though not expecting a lot from it).

Alan Moore doesn't have anything to do with this series anymore, does he?

EliSnow
10-01-2008, 01:41 PM
Alan Moore doesn't have anything to do with this series anymore, does he?

He's not writing it. I don't know if he has any involvement at all. That's why I'm not expect a lot from it. My shop was sold out so I didn't get it.

Read Batman. It's really good but I'm confused, which is not suprising.

Aqualad
10-01-2008, 05:06 PM
Read Batman. It's really good but I'm confused, which is not suprising.

I love the hell out of Batman RIP. I never would have thought that anybody would have the balls to try to make 50-year-old Batman stories cool and relevant but Morrison's giving it a go. It had better have one spectacular pay-off though, or there's going to be a lot of cheated fans registering their disgust on the internets.

Anybody who isn't familiar with Zurr-En-Arrh, Bat-mite, or Thomas Wayne's Bat-costume needs to check out the Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told tpb...if anything those 1950's stories are stranger and more confusing than anything Grant's attempting.

EliSnow
10-07-2008, 08:19 AM
Big week for comic books this week. I'm going to get:

BPRD THE WARNING #4
ACTION COMICS #870
GREEN LANTERN #35
GREEN LANTERN CORPS #29
100 BULLETS #96
AVENGERS INVADERS #5
DARK TOWER TREACHERY #2
STAND CAPTAIN TRIPS #2
TWELVE #8 (OF 12) $2.99

JustJon
10-07-2008, 09:05 AM
Loved The Boys vol 3 last week. I like how the Legend's story gives us a history of the world, and Wee Hughie hooking up with Starlight (to questionable ends)

weekapaugjz
10-08-2008, 12:11 PM
just got back from the shop a few minutes ago and was very happy with the books. here's my pull:

action, detective, green lantern, green lantern corps, two face: year one pt. 2, trinity, final crisis revelations, magneto testament pt. 2, and invincible iron man.

i think this will be the last time that iron man will be in my file because i ended my sub for it a few weeks ago in an attempt to cut down on some of my titles.

Aqualad
10-08-2008, 12:20 PM
I got Detective, Terror Titans, and Final Crisis: Revelations part 3. I am surprisingly really digging Revelations- I like the art, and I love the Montoya and Allen characters.

Don Stugots
10-08-2008, 12:24 PM
if this warrants its own thread then, please, Mr. Moderator spin it off.

I will be getting a new tattoo soon and I want it to be Thor inspired. Anyone know of any cool pics to suggest?

EliSnow
10-08-2008, 12:35 PM
if this warrants its own thread then, please, Mr. Moderator spin it off.

I will be getting a new tattoo soon and I want it to be Thor inspired. Anyone know of any cool pics to suggest?

http://henshinjustice.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/Thor03CoverA.jpg

http://mannythemovieguy.com/images/thor.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/688/688682/ultimates-20060214035924458_640w.jpg

Furtherman
10-08-2008, 12:40 PM
Your First Glimpse At Battlestar Galactica's Black Ops Spin-Off (http://io9.com/5060123/your-first-glimpse-at-battlestar-galacticas-black-ops-spin+off)

It wasn't just the Galactica and her fleet that escaped the destruction of the twelve colonies, according to new comic Battlestar Galactica: Ghosts — but that doesn't mean that the smuggler crew of the Orion's Pride or black-ops Viper "Ghost Squadron" have escaped the Cylons altogether. We've got some exclusive pages from the first issue of the new series that show you the vote that doomed the colonies, as well as an introduction to the new survivors.

The series, published by Dynamite Entertainment, is the first time that an all-new cast have taken center-stage (although they did publish a Pegasus comic last year) — offering fans a chance to see what future Galactica spin-offs, both in terms of comics and TV, may have to offer.

The first issue hits stores today.

Don Stugots
10-08-2008, 12:41 PM
i love Ultimate thor but there are not a lot of good pics to choose from. I found one that is the cover to Thor Ages of thunder but the hammer needs to altered.


http://www.comicbooknews.us/imgs/ThorAgesofThunder_SecondPrinting.jpg

weekapaugjz
10-08-2008, 12:48 PM
http://www.comicboards.com/avengers/attachments/061122094342/thor%20by%20oliver%20copiel.jpg

TheMojoPin
10-08-2008, 12:53 PM
if this warrants its own thread then, please, Mr. Moderator spin it off.

I will be getting a new tattoo soon and I want it to be Thor inspired. Anyone know of any cool pics to suggest?

Anything not Thor-inspired.

TheMojoPin
10-08-2008, 12:54 PM
Awesome:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51qRVcwfRWL._SS500_.jpg

Don Stugots
10-08-2008, 12:57 PM
http://www.comicboards.com/avengers/attachments/061122094342/thor%20by%20oliver%20copiel.jpg

i am checking that site now for it.

TheMojoPin
10-08-2008, 01:03 PM
What kind of Italian gets a fucking Aryan uberman tattooed on himself?

Get somthing more close to home, like Stained T-Shirt Man or the Amazing Bigot.

Don Stugots
10-08-2008, 01:08 PM
What kind of Italian gets a fucking Aryan uberman tattooed on himself?

Get somthing more close to home, like Stained T-Shirt Man or the Amazing Bigot.

I dont know. i have been looking for a while and everything i look at, Thor sticks out in my mind. I will probably change it a million times before I get it. my other tattoos were never even on the long list of ideas but when i saw them, i know.

P.S. I know you are not saying that i am a bigot but just to make it clear, I am not.

Furtherman
10-08-2008, 01:10 PM
I dont know. i have been looking for a while and everything i look at, Thor sticks out in my mind..

Stop watching Vikings football and This Old House.

TheMojoPin
10-08-2008, 01:14 PM
Blowhard would probably plotz seeing someone so swarthy befouling his beloved Thor. Thor is like his Nazi god.

Don Stugots
10-08-2008, 01:15 PM
Blowhard would probably plotz seeing someone so swarthy befouling his beloved Thor. Thor is like his Nazi god.

that is a good point. when i am searching through images on thor online, i see how the skin heads have made him theirs. that may be the deal breaker for me. maybe hulk then.....

EliSnow
10-08-2008, 01:16 PM
i love Ultimate thor but there are not a lot of good pics to choose from. I found one that is the cover to Thor Ages of thunder but the hammer needs to altered.


http://www.comicbooknews.us/imgs/ThorAgesofThunder_SecondPrinting.jpg

Go to comics.org. It's the imdb of comic books and has the covers to most if not all Thor comic book issues. Do a search for Thor, and take a look at the covers. One of them should have an image you'd like.

Don Stugots
10-08-2008, 01:17 PM
Go to comics.org. It's the imdb of comic books and has the covers to most if not all Thor comic book issues. Do a search for Thor, and take a look at the covers. One of them should have an image you'd like.

thanks, i was using comiccovers.com and it is pretty limited.

EliSnow
10-08-2008, 01:22 PM
The Punisher is Italian BTW.

Don Stugots
10-08-2008, 01:25 PM
The Punisher is Italian BTW.

i know. i have to look at Punisher and superman stuff next. When Punisher War Zone first came out, Romita jr did some great covers. I also have always lover Punisher 2099 #2's cover.

PhishHead
10-08-2008, 01:38 PM
I just received the Starman Omnibus from the coolest person ever:wub:!! I shall be reading this tonight I am so excited!!!

torker
10-08-2008, 01:45 PM
I recently unearthed signed copies of The Eudaemon that I stored away in 1992. I thought I was gonna sell them on EBay and retire. I don't know much about comics.

Tall_James
10-08-2008, 02:24 PM
I just received the Starman Omnibus from the coolest person ever:wub:!! I shall be reading this tonight I am so excited!!!

I don't recall sending you these.

TheMojoPin
10-08-2008, 02:57 PM
i know. i have to look at Punisher and superman stuff next. When Punisher War Zone first came out, Romita jr did some great covers. I also have always lover Punisher 2099 #2's cover.

Personally, I think the best Punisher art is the Tim Bradstreet covers:

You'll find them all here. (Links to more covers at the bottom) (http://www.punisher-art.com/artists/bradstreet/covers/bradstreet_2001_13-24/pun2001_covers_13-24.htm)

http://www.punisher-art.com/artists/bradstreet/covers/bradstreet_2001_13-24/punisher2001_22_cover.jpg

http://www.punisher-art.com/artists/bradstreet/covers/bradstreet_2001_13-24/punisher2001_21.jpg

http://www.punisher-art.com/artists/bradstreet/covers/bradstreet_maxi/bradstreet_7.jpg

http://www.punisher-art.com/artists/bradstreet/covers/bradstreet_maxi/bradstreet_1.jpg

http://www.punisher-art.com/artists/bradstreet/covers/bradstreet_mvl_max/punisher_max_4.jpg

http://www.punisher-art.com/artists/bradstreet/covers/bradstreet_mvl_max/pun_max_cover_12.jpg

http://www.punisher-art.com/artists/bradstreet/covers/bradstreet_mvl_max/pun_max_45_cover.jpg

He's the only artist to actually make the Punisher look Italian.

Aqualad
10-08-2008, 04:30 PM
Skinheads like Thor? Weak.

Don Stugots
10-08-2008, 04:41 PM
Mojo, those covers rock. I just made a screen saver with them and will be looking at more for a tattoo idea. the punisher is on the list. thanks.

MisterSmith
10-08-2008, 05:33 PM
Stugots - check out deviantart.com (http://www.deviantart.com/). I have found a lot of great stuff on there in the past and a quick search for Thor turned up some pretty cool images.

JustJon
10-08-2008, 05:51 PM
I just received the Starman Omnibus from the coolest person ever:wub:!! I shall be reading this tonight I am so excited!!!

I bought this when it came out. Fucking fantastic book. can't wait for the other 5.

AnnoyedGrunt
10-08-2008, 05:55 PM
If we're talking Bradstreet Punisher covers my favourite is easily #54.

http://morb.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/punmax054.jpg

biozombie
10-08-2008, 06:55 PM
http://www.zonalibre.org/blog/fettuchini/archives/archpun.jpg

EliSnow
10-09-2008, 05:43 AM
You're welcome.

JustJon
10-09-2008, 11:44 AM
This week's pickup:

The new Serenity TPB


Won't look right on the shelf being smaller than Left Behind, but I can't complain about the price.

EliSnow
10-09-2008, 11:55 AM
BTW, it looks like Geoff Johns may again have a soon-to-be-classic comic book run. He's still kicking major ass over on Green Lantern, but his current run on Action Comics has been really, really good. It actually may be become one of the very few great, in-continuity Superman stories.

dryerdoor
10-09-2008, 12:27 PM
Been catching up with The Walking Dead.

Holy fucking shit. I can't believe how great the series is.

Aqualad
10-09-2008, 02:44 PM
http://www.zonalibre.org/blog/fettuchini/archives/archpun.jpg

I have that issue, and the variant cover. Best. Crossover. Ever.

weekapaugjz
10-09-2008, 03:52 PM
BTW, it looks like Geoff Johns may again have a soon-to-be-classic comic book run. He's still kicking major ass over on Green Lantern, but his current run on Action Comics has been really, really good. It actually may be become one of the very few great, in-continuity Superman stories.

ive been loving johns work on action. the brainiac arc has been one of my favorite superman stories. im really looking forward to new krypton, i really like the idea behind it. i only wish johns was writing the whole story, not just the ones for action.

JustJon
10-09-2008, 05:45 PM
I really liked his General Zod story.

cougarjake13
10-09-2008, 06:08 PM
i have a thor tattoo

does that make me a nazi ?

weekapaugjz
10-09-2008, 06:12 PM
i have a thor tattoo

does that make me a nazi ?

is your name anthony cumia?

torker
10-11-2008, 07:39 AM
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/2880_4_001.jpg
My boy has a poster of this cover. I can't name all the guys. Can I get a little help?

Don Stugots
10-11-2008, 07:42 AM
i have a thor tattoo

does that make me a nazi ?

no, your swsatika tattoo does.

P.S. I just downloaded Planet Hulk and World war Hulk. WWH looks great.

Aqualad
10-11-2008, 07:47 AM
no, your swsatika tattoo does.

P.S. I just downloaded Planet Hulk and World war Hulk. WWH looks great.

Those are both awesome stories. Planet Hulk has the edge because it has a definite ending, where WWH ends with a setup for future plotlines. They were both seriously kickass though.

TheMojoPin
10-11-2008, 07:54 AM
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/2880_4_001.jpg
My boy has a poster of this cover. I can't name all the guys. Can I get a little help?

From left to right:

Top row:

Iron Man (Not Tony Stark, though. This is when his buddy James Rhodes was wearing the armor because Stark was too busy being drunk)

Hulk

Spider-Man

Human Torch

Next row down:

Nightcrawler

Captain Marvel II

Storm

Colossus

Next row down:

Rogue

Hawkeye

Thing

She-Hulk

Bottom row:

Cyclops

Wasp

Captain America

Wolverine

torker
10-11-2008, 08:01 AM
From left to right:

Top row:

Iron Man (Not Tony Stark, though. This is when his buddy James Rhodes was wearing the armor because Stark was too busy being drunk)
Hulk

Spider-Man

Human Torch

Next row down:

Nightcrawler

Captain Marvel II

Storm

Colossus
Next row down:

Rogue

Hawkeye

Thing

She-Hulk

Bottom row:

Cyclops

Wasp

Captain America

Wolverine

Thanks.

JustJon
10-11-2008, 04:47 PM
no, your swsatika tattoo does.

P.S. I just downloaded Planet Hulk and World war Hulk. WWH looks great.

Planet Hulk was a Conan story. WWH was just ok.

Aqualad
10-12-2008, 04:48 AM
Planet Hulk was a Conan story. WWH was just ok.

But a Conan story...WITH THE HULK!!!!

Don Stugots
10-12-2008, 05:01 AM
But a Conan story...WITH THE HULK!!!!

i read about half of it last night, it is very good so far.

Knowledged_one
10-12-2008, 06:08 AM
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/2880_4_001.jpg
My boy has a poster of this cover. I can't name all the guys. Can I get a little help?

And the wasp almost slept with Magneto, shes such a tramp

Aqualad
10-12-2008, 07:22 PM
i read about half of it last night, it is very good so far.

I'm not really a Hulk guy but that book rules.

EliSnow
10-14-2008, 09:56 AM
So this week, I'm getting the following books:

Final Crisis Legion of Three Worlds
Final Crisis Rogues Revenge
Astonishing X-Men
Captain Britain and MI 13
Mighty Avengers
Ultimate Origins
Uncanny X-Men

weekapaugjz
10-15-2008, 12:00 PM
i just picked up legion of three worlds #2, rogues revenge #3, trinity #20, mighty avengers #19, and uncanny xmen #503

Knowledged_one
10-15-2008, 12:09 PM
So this week, I'm getting the following books:

Final Crisis Legion of Three Worlds
Final Crisis Rogues Revenge
Astonishing X-Men
Captain Britain and MI 13
Mighty Avengers
Ultimate Origins
Uncanny X-Men



I have read that Final Crisis hasnt been that great at all

But Batman RIP looks really good

Knowledged_one
10-15-2008, 12:16 PM
Ok, so i have read some things and apparently the person behind the Alliance of Evil back when X-Factor first started was going to be the Owl. Instead they went with a new character who ended up being Apocalypse.

How drastic do you think things would be changed had they gone with teh Owl as the primary figure?

I mean the whole age of apocalypse as well as the characters there would have never been (for instance dark beast)

It makes me wonder how about you

donnie_darko
10-15-2008, 12:27 PM
batman RIP is kinda weak.

nowhere near as interesting as the hush story lines, or alot of the other recent storylines.

i'm wondering what kevin series stab is gonna turn into though...

everyone should read the new captain america..it really is a great storyline, winter soldier angle is awesome.

ChimneyFish
10-15-2008, 12:28 PM
Finished "Watchmen".

Absolutely fantastic story.
A great read, and weel worthy of all the hype that so many have given it.

After that, I read through Nightcrawler: "The Devil Inside" and Nightcrawler: "The Winding Way".

Should have waited a little while before reading another comic after "Watchmen", but by the time I finished them, they were decent reads.
Like how the artist did Nightcrawler, but didn't like how he did Wolverine.

Not sure where I'm going after this, but I'm thinking either "The Long Halloween" or Sandman Vol 1.

MisterSmith
10-15-2008, 01:29 PM
I just checked out the "Just Imagine Stan Lee..." take on the DC superheroes. It was a whim because I had been interested since hearing about their original release and the "what if" type books are usually pretty interesting.

What an amazing bunch of hackery. Stan Lee may have been in his glory in the 1960's and helped create many of the modern superheroes we love, but his re-imagining of the DC Universe was pretty darn crappy. I am actually angry about what he did to Superman.

I wish I could somehow un-read those books.

weekapaugjz
10-15-2008, 01:55 PM
really liked both the rogues revenge and legion of three worlds. i wish the rogues could have had a five part series like the legion, but it was still a great story. should be interesting once barry allen comes after them.

mighty avengers, meh. i think im done with this series. might get next month but i doubt it.

uncanny xmen. im still not sure what i think about them moving to san fran.

TheMojoPin
10-15-2008, 01:58 PM
batman RIP is kinda weak.

nowhere near as interesting as the hush story lines, or alot of the other recent storylines.

I will never understand why people like anything about the "Hush" storyline outside of Jim Lee's art. The whole things is insanely cliche and packed with way too many characters and the ending and the main villain is such a fucking cheap copout

TheMojoPin
10-15-2008, 02:02 PM
Comic snob time:

Jason Lutes is fucking amazing.

I jut finished book 2 of his planned Berlin trilogy...holy God. This is the kind of stuff that really shows what someone can do with this medium.

Read the two Berlin collections. Read Jar of Fools. Read Houdini" The Handcuff King. Jason Lutes is a comic book master.

JustJon
10-15-2008, 03:27 PM
I will never understand why people like anything about the "Hush" storyline outside of Jim Lee's art. The whole things is insanely cliche and packed with way too many characters and the ending and the main villain is such a fucking cheap copout

I agree with you on this one. I don't like Hush, I thought the story was mediocre, but really liked the art.

Aqualad
10-15-2008, 04:14 PM
I agree with you on this one. I don't like Hush, I thought the story was mediocre, but really liked the art.

The story was fine up until the bullshit ending. It got people interested in the Bat-books in a big way though, and they've been riding that wave with All-Star Batman and Batman RIP. I don't have any numbers in front of me (nor do I care to have any) but I'd guess that Batman sales increased across the board after Hush. It was one of those must-read comics when it was coming out monthly...I believe Batman was number one on the sales charts for the first time in like 30 years during that arc.

EliSnow
10-16-2008, 06:29 AM
I will never understand why people like anything about the "Hush" storyline outside of Jim Lee's art. The whole things is insanely cliche and packed with way too many characters and the ending and the main villain is such a fucking cheap copout

I agree with you on this one. I don't like Hush, I thought the story was mediocre, but really liked the art.

QFT.

The story was fine up until the bullshit ending. It got people interested in the Bat-books in a big way though, and they've been riding that wave with All-Star Batman and Batman RIP. I don't have any numbers in front of me (nor do I care to have any) but I'd guess that Batman sales increased across the board after Hush. It was one of those must-read comics when it was coming out monthly...I believe Batman was number one on the sales charts for the first time in like 30 years during that arc .

I think there were problems with it even before the ending. I was excited and enjoyed for awhile, but that fell off mid-way through.

EliSnow
10-31-2008, 05:19 AM
Some random comic book thoughts:

Was excited for Superman this week because it would be part 2 of the New Krypton series. For those unaware, Geoff Johns is writing it and what has happend is that the city of Kandor minaturized by Brainiac was freed by Superman and went back to normal size on the north pole. So there are thousands of kryptonians now on Earth. The buzz is that this will do for Supes what Sinestro Corps War did for Green Lantern.

The problem is that my shop didn't realize this issue could be a great seller and didn't order enough. Ugh.

Also, in the last 6 months or so, I've been going back to old back issues of comics and reading various runs that I have. I read Morrison's JLA run as well as other runs on JLA after that. And then I went back to read Peter David's run on Hulk (or at least the last portion that I have). Enjoying it for the most part, except for two things. The first is that David's run was often interrupted by various Marvel events in the 90's and it really interrupted the flow of the comic.

The second is that a run of the comic was done by Angel Medina, and I can't stand his art. The foreheads on Hulk, Thor, and other characters are so huge and actually lean forward. It's just so painful to look at.
http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/1866/400/1866_4_000446.jpg

Sheeplovr
10-31-2008, 05:35 AM
I will never understand why people like anything about the "Hush" storyline outside of Jim Lee's art.

i don't like Jim lees art everyone looks the same is that Bruce Wayne or Clark Kent who can tell i can't

JustJon
10-31-2008, 08:51 AM
i don't like Jim lees art everyone looks the same is that Bruce Wayne or Clark Kent who can tell i can't

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/Batman_superman.PNG

Clark is on the left.

EliSnow
10-31-2008, 09:28 AM
Bowen Designs just put up a new statue of the Destroyer for sale. I won't buy it, but my inner geek so wants to.

http://www.bowendesigns.com/images/sculptures/Destroyer%20statue.jpg

weekapaugjz
10-31-2008, 01:29 PM
Eli, any thoughts on the rage of the red lanterns?

EliSnow
10-31-2008, 01:57 PM
Eli, any thoughts on the rage of the red lanterns?

I thought it was great. I think the whole road to Blackest Night has been awesome. Interesting to see the other new Lantern Corp at the end and how it's power works.

weekapaugjz
10-31-2008, 02:25 PM
Some random comic book thoughts:

Was excited for Superman this week because it would be part 2 of the New Krypton series. For those unaware, Geoff Johns is writing it and what has happend is that the city of Kandor minaturized by Brainiac was freed by Superman and went back to normal size on the north pole. So there are thousands of kryptonians now on Earth. The buzz is that this will do for Supes what Sinestro Corps War did for Green Lantern.

The problem is that my shop didn't realize this issue could be a great seller and didn't order enough. Ugh.



i really liked the issue. i find the idea of new krypton really interesting because of how all the citizens of kandor have their "new" super powers and not really understanding the potential power they hold. the reason superman is such a great hero for earth is how he was raised by the kents, but the kryptonians have come to earth not understanding its culture.

also, the action comics in two weeks should be great with the event that unfolded in the last couple of pages.

rage of the red lanterns has been my favorite issue i have read in a long time. the rage cat was awesome. my only question is (because ive only really read johns work on lantern and not much before) has saint walker been a character from earlier in green lantern comics or is he a new character? im really interested in seeing who else will be recruited as blue lanterns.

Aqualad
11-01-2008, 06:54 AM
I went to the Albany Comic Convention last week. It was a nice little con...as always I sought out the cheap back-issue bins.
I bought some Gold Key Uncle Scrooge comics, both issues of "The Adventurous Uncle Scrooge", the first issue of the Robin III miniseries (with cover enhancement!), and the Dream Nails Trilogy from the Warren Ellis Excalibur run. Oh and a 90210 comic for my chick.

Aqualad
11-01-2008, 06:55 AM
Also, in the last 6 months or so, I've been going back to old back issues of comics and reading various runs that I have. I read Morrison's JLA run as well as other runs on JLA after that. And then I went back to read Peter David's run on Hulk (or at least the last portion that I have). Enjoying it for the most part, except for two things. The first is that David's run was often interrupted by various Marvel events in the 90's and it really interrupted the flow of the comic.


Love both of those runs. JLA is about the best comic ever, and Peter David's the only guy to ever make the Hulk interesting.

Don Stugots
11-01-2008, 07:05 AM
Eli, any thoughts on the rage of the red lanterns?

i read the first one at forbidden planet yesterday and thought it was bad ass. i will pick up a TPB of it when/if it comes out.

EliSnow
11-04-2008, 07:06 AM
my only question is (because ive only really read johns work on lantern and not much before) has saint walker been a character from earlier in green lantern comics or is he a new character? im really interested in seeing who else will be recruited as blue lanterns.

I've done some internets searches and haven't found anything suggesting he is a pre-existing character.

Mike Kingston
11-05-2008, 07:52 AM
I went to the Albany Comic Convention last week. It was a nice little con...as always I sought out the cheap back-issue bins.
I bought some Gold Key Uncle Scrooge comics, both issues of "The Adventurous Uncle Scrooge", the first issue of the Robin III miniseries (with cover enhancement!), and the Dream Nails Trilogy from the Warren Ellis Excalibur run. Oh and a 90210 comic for my chick.

Hey I was there as a guest....did I meet you?

Mike Kingston
11-05-2008, 07:53 AM
Anybody reading Daredevil? The last few arcs have been fantastic.

TheMojoPin
11-05-2008, 07:54 AM
Anybody reading Daredevil? The last few arcs have been fantastic.

Brubaker's my favorite writer going right now. His work with Daredevil and Captain America is outstanding.

J.Clints
11-05-2008, 08:35 AM
Brubaker's my favorite writer going right now. His work with Daredevil and Captain America is outstanding.

The Captin America are on Fire. I have been loving them.

JustJon
11-05-2008, 08:50 AM
His cap is amazing, I still haven't gotten to his Daredevil.

EliSnow
11-05-2008, 08:53 AM
Brubaker's my favorite writer going right now. His work with Daredevil and Captain America is outstanding.

Make sure you check out his Iron Fist run as well. He's done now, but he really made that character and his backstory great.

TheMojoPin
11-05-2008, 08:54 AM
Make sure you check out his Iron Fist run as well. He's done now, but he really made that character and his backstory great.

Already have. Matt Fraction is also a kickass writer. Cassanova is a really cool series.

Aqualad
11-05-2008, 01:09 PM
Hey I was there as a guest....did I meet you?

No, in fact I saw your table but didn't put two and two together...I knew I recognized the name Headlocked but didn't know from where. Next time

Mike Kingston
11-07-2008, 10:23 PM
No, in fact I saw your table but didn't put two and two together...I knew I recognized the name Headlocked but didn't know from where. Next time

I think there's one in the spring as well.

Incidentally, Issue #1 and #2 (thanks Diamond) of my new mini-series, Headlocked: The Tryout is shipping this Wednesday.

Check it out. As an indy, I need all the help I can get.

The Ogre
11-09-2008, 08:34 AM
Bowen Designs just put up a new statue of the Destroyer for sale. I won't buy it, but my inner geek so wants to.

http://www.bowendesigns.com/images/sculptures/Destroyer%20statue.jpg





That is fucking pure class. I wish I could justify blowing the money on it. I'll have to settle for the action figures instead.

The Ogre
11-09-2008, 08:38 AM
His cap is amazing, I still haven't gotten to his Daredevil.

See I thought Bru's Cap was amazing until it became apparent that his plan was to insert Bucky in a tin foil suit into the Cap role. I think he worked much better as the Winter Soldier and that his progression into the Cap suit was way to accelerated.

I don't know if this is Marvel's fault for needing the end of Civil War to have an exclamation point with Cap's death or not, but it feels very hollow and phony. Bucky always wins, gets all the chicks, strikes fear in the hearts of men, and effortlessly fills the role of the world's greatest soldier/fighter/tactician just because. It smacks of the writer's wish fulfillment and general laziness to me.

TheMojoPin
11-09-2008, 06:27 PM
See I thought Bru's Cap was amazing until it became apparent that his plan was to insert Bucky in a tin foil suit into the Cap role. I think he worked much better as the Winter Soldier and that his progression into the Cap suit was way to accelerated.

I don't know if this is Marvel's fault for needing the end of Civil War to have an exclamation point with Cap's death or not, but it feels very hollow and phony. Bucky always wins, gets all the chicks, strikes fear in the hearts of men, and effortlessly fills the role of the world's greatest soldier/fighter/tactician just because. It smacks of the writer's wish fulfillment and general laziness to me.

I was going to agree with everything you said because I thought you were talking about Jason Todd over in the DC Universe.