can anyone recommend me a gun

[patsopinion]

so i really want a fucking powerful cheap accurate rifle
or a really cheap shot gun

but pref a rifle
i want something that can put a pretty sizable hole in a zombie from a like a mile away

[Bossanova]

so i really want a fucking powerful cheap accurate rifle
or a really cheap shot gun

but pref a rifle
i want something that can put a pretty sizable hole in a zombie from a like a mile away

Did you watch Shaun of the Dead today?

[MellySmelly]

How about a SKS? That's my favorite one.

[patsopinion]

Did you watch Shaun of the Dead today?

no i was watching wall street with mike Douglas and charlie sheen
and football of course

[patsopinion]

How about a SKS? That's my favorite one.

i live in califonia and im pretty sure thats an assault rifle

[PapaBear]

so i really want a fucking powerful cheap accurate rifle
or a really cheap shot gun

but pref a rifle
i want something that can put a pretty sizable hole in a zombie from a like a mile away
Depends on the zombie. For slow zombies, a shotgun will work quite nicely. For fast zombies you'll want a sniper rifle.

[TheGameHHH]

Did you watch Shaun of the Dead today?

i did, it was actually the first time ive ever seen it. people always say how funny it is, so i had to watch it.

[patsopinion]

Depends on the zombie. For slow zombies, a shotgun will work quite nicely. For fast zombies you'll want a sniper rifle.

the sniper rifle i would say would actually be less effective against fast zombies

so cheap sniper rifle
that takes cheap ammo
but does damage

[PapaBear]

the sniper rifle i would say would actually be less effective against fast zombies

so cheap sniper rifle
that takes cheap ammo
but does damage
Wrong. You'll need to be far away from fast zombies. To use a shotgun on the fast ones, you'll need to be close. They might overwhelm you.

[Bossanova]

i did, it was actually the first time ive ever seen it. people always say how funny it is, so i had to watch it.

So, what did you think?

[TheGameHHH]

So, what did you think?

it wasn't bad, it def. had it's moments. sometimes people can build up a movie a little too much. i think thats what happened with me and this movie.

[MellySmelly]

i live in califonia and im pretty sure thats an assault rifle

I think the SKS that doesn't have the detachable magazine would be legal in CA, but there might be some new law that I don't know about.

[topless_mike]

for a herd of zombies, you might need to up the ante to ol' painless

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/texanstc/GE_XM214_Minigun-2.jpg

[MellySmelly]

for a herd of zombies, you might need to up the ante to ol' painless

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/texanstc/GE_XM214_Minigun-2.jpg

Now that's a fucking gun. :thumbup:

[patsopinion]

it looks to much like a penis replacement

[sr71blackbird]

Get a Marlin 22 semi auto rifle. They are relatively cheap and nicely made and accurate.
Youll need to get a scope and adjust its accuracy which is a little tricky and youll need to shoot it while the gun is securely held in place and keep adjusting the windage and elevation until the cross hairs line up with the bullet hole in your target, but after that, itll be fine. Just be careful! Rifle bullets travel over a mile! Dont shoot at water, because the bullet will "skip" and possibly hit someone far away.

[DolaMight]

leave the kennedy's alone. they've suffered enough

[patsopinion]

this?http://www.alsarmynavy.com/images/PRODUCT/large/007681.jpg

[patsopinion]

okay ive slimmed the pack some

looking for a 25 or 30 mm bolt action accurate cheap rifle

any suggestions?

[PapaBear]

Try Wal Mart or the classifieds. Take some shooting and safety lessons. Don't drink when the gun is unlocked.

[Sarge]

Why do you want a bolt action?

[sr71blackbird]

I have this one:
http://www.businessweek.com/1999/99_33/art33/bw3397.jpg
It has a tubular magazine that holds 15 rounds.
I love it.
Get some sub-sonic ammo and it sounds like an air rifle!

[PapaBear]

Why do you want a bolt action?
Inexpensive and less maintenance for someone who is inexperienced.

[patsopinion]

Inexpensive and less maintenance for someone who is inexperienced.

and i live in california and for reasons we will not get into i personally am not allowed to own anything else

[PapaBear]

and i live in california and for reasons we will not get into i personally am not allowed to own anything else
Weird laws there, huh? I can't own or use any gun at all (though I hear it's OK for me to have black powder).

[Sarge]

and i live in california and for reasons we will not get into i personally am not allowed to own anything else

Thats strange, you would think if you could own a bolt action, you could own a semi-auto. it still fires the same round.

[sr71blackbird]

Wal-Marts sometimes have the Marlins. Or, a gun shop.
It has a bolt action, but it also has the magazine.
Be fucking careful! I killed two raccoons with 5 shots in 3 seconds. I am serious, these things are dangerous and certainly not toys.

[Sarge]

Wal-Marts sometimes have the Marlins. Or, a gun shop.
It has a bolt action, but it also has the magazine.
Be fucking careful! I killed two raccoons with 5 shots in 3 seconds. I am serious, these things are dangerous and certainly not toys.

Marlin makes a nice .22 cal bolt action. I cant remember the model number, but we use it at work to put down small animals. It has a polymer stock, and stainless barrel, and receiver which makes it pretty corrosion proof. I think it has a 5 round magazine.

[PapaBear]

Marlin bolt action at Wal Mart. (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4665643)

[patsopinion]

Marlin bolt action at Wal Mart. (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4665643)

the walmarts in ca dont sell guns

[PapaBear]

California sounds like a stupid place.

[patsopinion]

California sounds like a stupid place.

well we've got the 1 and 2 murders per capita cities withing 30 miles of my house so...

richmond and oakland

but we all know murders are with unlicensed hand guns/fully auto uzi like weapons not rifles with clips but whatever

[MadMatt]

Here's a gun I'm sure you can try - if you ask nicely...

http://www.daslu.com.br/admin/smarty/templates/img_upload/Timguide.jpg

[patsopinion]

if i was gay i know hed totally be out of my league

[midwestjeff]

Anyone helping Mr. Opinion find a gun may be an accessory to murder. You've been warned.

http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=65022

[patsopinion]

so if i were to buy a 30-06 bolt action rifle will that fire any 30-06 round (http://www.internetarmory.com/rifle_hunting.htm)?

[PapaBear]

As far as I know, 30 06 is 30 06. Why the sudden need? Really? I honestly don't think you're up to anything bad, or else you wouldn't be worried about it being legal. I'm just curious.

[patsopinion]

As far as I know, 30 06 is 30 06. Why the sudden need? Really? I honestly don't think you're up to anything bad, or else you wouldn't be worried about it being legal. I'm just curious.

there are 6 different rounds on that site i was looking at with drastic weight differences
it seems like a good gun just because you can get heavier rounds as you progress and feel more comfie with the gun
but i just cant tell if any 30-06 gun can shoot any 30-06 round

and i may be moving to reno at the end of the year and would need to buy myself a new toy to justify it

[Chigworthy]

Wait till you move to buy a gun; less headache, cheaper and more diverse selection available in Nevada. If it is your first gun (if so, please take at least one safety course), a .22 is a great place to start. The guns are cheap and so is the ammo. A 30-06 has a lot of powder behind it (As does the new and improved, flatter-trajectoried 30-06, the .270 Win) and may not be the most fun gun to shoot at the range.

But if you really want a long-distance beast, the 30-06, .270, and even a .308 would be a good choice. Savage makes pretty decent and affordable bolt-actions, most with an Accu-trigger which is adjustable but comes out the box at something like 2.5 pounds pull. My wife has a Savage 111 in .270 Win with the accu-trigger and it breaks nice. It's not as nice shooting as say a Winchester Model 70, but it is a good rifle for the money.

As far as I know, a rifle chambered in 30-06 will shoot any 30-06 round, but the manual that comes with the rifle will tell you exactly what ammo you can and can't use.

[patsopinion]

ty

[waltermitty]

http://www.hollywoodtoday.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/sam-in-jackie-brown.jpg

AK-47....
When you absolutely, positively have to kill every last mother fucker in the room....

http://www.airsplat.com/Images/ER-UTG-M-AK-47.gif

[SniperDudeMJS]

it looks to much like a penis replacement

And this is a problem because . . . ?

[Turtle]

so i really want a fucking powerful cheap accurate rifle
or a really cheap shot gun

but pref a rifle
i want something that can put a pretty sizable hole in a zombie from a like a mile away

You can get a replica of the M-1903A3 Springfield rifle for about $600.00 The Springfield fires the 30-06 round and will "put a pretty sizable hole in a zombie from like a mile away"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1903_Springfield_rifle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Ph9IX3QZQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MnCqWdgeqc&feature=related

[RhinoinMN]

I travel in my RV from time to time and there are a few border towns in Texas that have a problems with "travel home invasions." The snowbirds down there tend to have a lot of cash on them and make easy marks. I went to a gun shop and talked to the owner about getting a pistol for this reason. He recommended that I get a 12ga shotgun and use the shortest barrel legally possible (which I believe is 18") and use buckshot or something similar. The main people that commit these crimes are trashy white people and non-english speaking legal immigrants. The owner said that the beauty of a pump action shotgun is that 9 times out of 10 you will never need to use it. He described that racking a shotgun when an intruder is in your house is universal language for "get the FUCK out."

[furie]

Dude, don't go cheap:

JAE-100 (http://www.jallenenterprises.com/)

[joethebartender]

"my little carbine":
http://www.glamguns.com/mylittleponycarbine.jpg

or
"hello Kitty AK"
http://www.glamguns.com/hk47.jpg

Something about an assault rifle with pink crochet work on the stock.

[deliciousV]

Try a Mannlicher-Carcano, this guy hit the target 2 out of 3 shots.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/CE746A.jpg/150px-CE746A.jpg

[Heather 8]

Did you watch Shaun of the Dead today?


Kill the Queen!


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[polack]

A 22 is a childs gun. It's great if your poaching deer at night cause it has little or no sound, but the thing is not great at long distances(200 plus yards). A 270 or 243 is a descent gun cause it's a flat shooting gun. You can usually take 500 to 600 yard shots with descent accuracy. A 30-06 is a powerful gun just horrible at long shots. You have to aim pretty high up on the target cause the round is gonna drop almost a foot at 600 yards. A 7mm mag is a great gun cause it has alot of power and shoots relatively flat. I use this and have been pretty accurate at 800 plus yards. It kicks like a bastard but worth it.

[PapaBear]

I held a 7mm round last night. I was impressed with how much powder there was for such a small round.

[Chigworthy]

A 22 is a childs gun.

A .22 LR is probably used more in "adult" jobs than other chamberings. You can't really compare a .22 to a .270 as they are entirely different things, like comparing a paring knife to a meat cleaver. A .22 is a very "descent" gun.

[SouthSideJohnny]

so i really want a fucking powerful cheap accurate rifle
or a really cheap shot gun

but pref a rifle
i want something that can put a pretty sizable hole in a zombie from a like a mile away

Other than zombie poaching, why are you looking for one? The answer depends on the purpose. Self defense for home - I wouldn't go with a .22 - I would go with the shotgun.
Target shooting or plinking - .22 is fine. Be advised that there is a world of difference between a .22 and a 30-06. Give us a little more detail, and you'll get a better answer. Either way, take a gun safety course. The gun shop can probably refer you to one.

[Chigworthy]

I held a 7mm round last night. I was impressed with how much powder there was for such a small round.

Check out the WSSM rounds.
http://www.gunhuntermag.com/Assets/images/QuarterB.jpg

I bought a Model 70 .223 WSSM last year because it was half price and they don't make Model 70's anymore. It is a pretty silly round, but I guess people like 'em for prairie dogs and such. I only do target shooting, and the round is too expensive to be too much fun.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

http://www.retrogames.co.uk/stock/assets/images/Mach_-_Nes_Zapper.jpg


perfect for shooting these


http://www.racketboy.com/retro/duckhunt.jpg


:king:

[Chigworthy]

That game was maddening because you couldn't shoot that cakling dog.

[jauble]

I might suggest the Tommy Gunn

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZR2A91CGL._AA240_.jpg

[topless_mike]

And this is a problem because . . . ?

its supposed to:
if your starin at the barrel of that you're fuct....

[led37zep]

so i really want a fucking powerful cheap accurate rifle
or a really cheap shot gun

but pref a rifle
i want something that can put a pretty sizable hole in a zombie from a like a mile away

If you want a decent but not expensive shotgun go with the Remington 870 Express. They usually run around $300-350 and its never let me down. (I'm a duck hunter so it been put through some pretty shitty weather and always worked well)

[Soupy_Dreck]

If you want a decent but not expensive shotgun go with the Remington 870 Express. They usually run around $300-350 and its never let me down. (I'm a duck hunter so it been put through some pretty shitty weather and always worked well)

you spent $350 on an 870 express? i bought an 870 express 3" magnum for $219.

[Chigworthy]

We get it. We pay shitty taxes in California.

[polack]

A .22 LR is probably used more in "adult" jobs than other chamberings. You can't really compare a .22 to a .270 as they are entirely different things, like comparing a paring knife to a meat cleaver. A .22 is a very "descent" gun.

I do agree that it is used alot but it still doesn't mean it's not a childs gun. It is great for small game or deer. The only problem is you have to shoot the deer in the head for them to go down. A vital shot to the heart or lungs won't stop a deer. That is why I said it's a childs gun. In most cases in rural areas when a child grows out of the pellet gun phase the first gun he owns is a 22. It helps them to learn to fire a rifle and teaches them the importance of firearm safety. No adult would honestly tell you he uses a 22 for adult situations other than small game. The gun is great, But it is small and childlike.

[Chigworthy]

I do agree that it is used alot but it still doesn't mean it's not a childs gun. It is great for small game or deer. The only problem is you have to shoot the deer in the head for them to go down. A vital shot to the heart or lungs won't stop a deer. That is why I said it's a childs gun. In most cases in rural areas when a child grows out of the pellet gun phase the first gun he owns is a 22. It helps them to learn to fire a rifle and teaches them the importance of firearm safety. No adult would honestly tell you he uses a 22 for adult situations other than small game. The gun is great, But it is small and childlike.

So target shooting is not an "adult situation"? The reason why kids usually get one to learn on is because they are good to learn on, not because they are small and childlike.

[led37zep]

We get it. We pay shitty taxes in California.

yep, hence the higher price. Oh well.

[earthbrown]

i live in califonia and im pretty sure thats an assault rifle

check local laws, a sks with a 10round FIXED magizene, may be legal, and can be had for $175-250.

Or look for a Maverick88 it is made by Mossberg and similar to Mossberg 500.

I own a Maverick88 and an SKS, I have fired THOUSANDS of rounds through each and both are good well made firearms.

SKS is accurate on a Zombie sized target for 200-300 yards, and 12ga like 100 yards.

FOr home defense 12ga is BEST, use 00buck, it is a stereotype, but 00buck is best home defense round IMHO.

K

[earthbrown]

you spent $350 on an 870 express? i bought an 870 express 3" magnum for $219.

you got a deal, $300 is normal for a 870.


K

[patsopinion]

check local laws, a sks with a 10round FIXED magizene, may be legal, and can be had for $175-250.

Or look for a Maverick88 it is made by Mossberg and similar to Mossberg 500.

I own a Maverick88 and an SKS, I have fired THOUSANDS of rounds through each and both are good well made firearms.

SKS is accurate on a Zombie sized target for 200-300 yards, and 12ga like 100 yards.

FOr home defense 12ga is BEST, use 00buck, it is a stereotype, but 00buck is best home defense round IMHO.

K

cool
yea its the mag that makes it an assult rifle and i didnt know they made them with a fixed mag

[TeeBone]

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:PX9BqFVrbEhE9M:http://www.airguns-online.co.uk/CO2%2520Walther%2520PPK%2520lge.jpg

[PapaBear]

cool
yea its the mag that makes it an assult rifle and i didnt know they made them with a fixed mag
A magazine doesn't make a gun an assault rifle. The law there probably limits the number of rounds a magazine can hold. I'm willing to bet that the little magazines that only hold about 7-15 rounds are perfectly legal.

[Chigworthy]

For rifles classified as an assault rifle, they must have a fixed 5 round magazine. This means that the receiver is entirely different from a regular one in that the magzine is part of it, similar to a lot of bolt action rigs.

[patsopinion]

A magazine doesn't make a gun an assault rifle. The law there probably limits the number of rounds a magazine can hold. I'm willing to bet that the little magazines that only hold about 7-15 rounds are perfectly legal.

no any rifle can not have a mag what so ever
and handguns are limited to x ammount of rounds per clip

* (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
o (A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
o (B) A thumbhole stock.
o (C) A folding or telescoping stock.
o (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
o (E) A flash suppressor.
o (F) A forward pistol grip.

gun laws (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_(by_state)#Californi a)

[earthbrown]

cool
yea its the mag that makes it an assult rifle and i didnt know they made them with a fixed mag


you can disassemble and fit a larger mag, BUT it in stock form is made to load with 10rd stripper clips.


Mine now has a scope and folding stock.


K

[Chigworthy]

Bolt action and rimfire rifles can have magazines up to 10 rounds.

[PapaBear]

o (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher

Now that's just going too far. I'm calling the NRA.

[scottinnj]

so i really want a fucking powerful cheap accurate rifle
or a really cheap shot gun

but pref a rifle
i want something that can put a pretty sizable hole in a zombie from a like a mile away

Hands down the SKS.

7.62x39 mm

About 100 to 150 bucks (new)

About 50 bucks to upgrade the stock to stable fiberglass, and add a peep sight and a fairly decent scope w/mount.

Avoid the Chinese SKS models, and look for the Czech models-or any ex Eastern Soviet Satellite Country.

It is incredibly accurate for the price (I can consitently hit bulleyes with the peep sights at 300 meters) and durable, and replacement parts are cheap.

Replacing the stock was mainly an aesthetic option for me, but since I am six feet tall, the longer shoulder stock was more comfortable.

[scottinnj]

no any rifle can not have a mag what so ever
and handguns are limited to x ammount of rounds per clip

* (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
o (A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
o (B) A thumbhole stock.
o (C) A folding or telescoping stock.
o (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
o (E) A flash suppressor.
o (F) A forward pistol grip.

gun laws (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_(by_state)#Californi a)


All gone. The Assault Weapons Ban has expired, and all those features are okey-dokey again.

[PapaBear]

All gone. The Assault Weapons Ban has expired, and all those features are okey-dokey again.
The Federal one expired. The law he's talking about is in California.

[patsopinion]

Now that's just going too far. I'm calling the NRA.

http://www.zastava-arms.co.yu/images/vojni/bga/8.jpg

what u never seen a fucking ice cream maker before?

[scottinnj]

The Federal one expired. The law he's talking about is in California.

Gotcha.

[PapaBear]

Admit it. You're trying to get Pat arrested.

[scottinnj]

Other than zombie poaching, why are you looking for one? The answer depends on the purpose. Self defense for home - I wouldn't go with a .22 - I would go with the shotgun.
Target shooting or plinking - .22 is fine. Be advised that there is a world of difference between a .22 and a 30-06. Give us a little more detail, and you'll get a better answer. Either way, take a gun safety course. The gun shop can probably refer you to one.


A good varmint rife would be the .22-250.

From groundhogs to coyotes, it's the round to use. Small but high velocity, and the rounds are cheap

[scottinnj]

Admit it. You're trying to get Pat arrested.

You got me. I've always had it in for him. :innocent:

[earthbrown]

A good varmint rife would be the .22-250.

From groundhogs to coyotes, it's the round to use. Small but high velocity, and the rounds are cheap

sks works well for coyotes and varmits too....but a nice bolt action 22-250 is way more accurate.

K

[scottinnj]

What about a T-16? Luke and me would go out to Beggar's Canyon and blast womp rats with them...and womp rats are only a meter wide.

But I don't know if they are still made. We haven't done that since we were teenagers, which was a long, long time ago..........

[patsopinion]

What about a T-16? Luke and me would go out to Beggar's Canyon and blast womp rats with them...and womp rats are only a meter wide.

But I don't know if they are still made. We haven't done that since we were teenagers, which was a long, long time ago..........

chuckle

i thought the t 16 was a kind of craft