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badorties

11-27-2007, 07:20 AM

i'm excited and apprehensive about this coming out (although a march 2009 release seems really far away)

but they just released this production still, and i'm intrigued

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/wm1.jpg

here's the current cast:

Malin Akerman (upcoming The Heartbreak Kid) as Laurie Juspeczyk aka Silk Spectre
Billy Crudup (The Good Shepherd) as Jon Osterman, aka Dr. Manhattan
Matthew Goode (Match Point) as Adrian Veidt, aka Ozymandias
Jackie Earle Haley (Little Children) as Walter Kovacs, aka Rorschach
Jeffrey Dean Morgan (TV’s Grey’s Anatomy) as Edward Blake, aka the Comedian
Patrick Wilson (Little Children) as Dan Dreiberg, aka Nite Owl

Doctor Manhattan

11-27-2007, 07:45 AM

I can not wait to see this film, Hope it's better than the DVD I just got:http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4925/watchmenbabiesxe0.jpg

badorties

11-27-2007, 07:49 AM

that was a great episode ...

TheMojoPin

11-27-2007, 07:57 AM

Well, it's cool that they got a director that's clearly going to be as faithful to the source material as possible...though in terms of content ad then adapting it to a movie, Watchmen is light years beyond 300. I'm not saying that to be snooty or anything...300 is relatively simple and straightforward whereas WM is one of the most complex and textured pieces of literature I've ever read. There are some obvious things that can be cut out for a film adaptation for it to theoretically still be effective, but still, it seems like it would have to be around 3 hours long at the least to come close.

That said, I'm still excited and curious to see this film. V For Vendetta and From Hell were film adaptations very much removed from similarly amazing and very dense comic by Alan Moore, and I enjoyed both films as different entities from the books. Hopefully I can do the same here.

realmenhatelife

11-27-2007, 08:51 AM

I was talking to someone about this last night when these stills broke and I realized I have completely lost all optimism about how this movie is going to turn out. It would take nothing short of a miracle to turn a good and faithful movie out of that source material. There has never been a successful adaptation of a moore property because he's way more into literary forms than actual narratives. You cant really make a movie about a literary condition the same way you can write a book about one.

TheMojoPin

11-27-2007, 09:29 AM

kdubya

11-27-2007, 10:07 AM

I wish they had just left it as a comic book.

CaptClown

11-27-2007, 10:19 AM

I am rigid with anticipation.

Thebazile78

11-27-2007, 10:43 AM

You cant really make a movie about a literary condition the same way you can write a book about one.

Didn't they try that with the film version of Tristram Shandy?

realmenhatelife

11-27-2007, 11:35 AM

Didn't they try that with the film version of Tristram Shandy?

film maker # 1: Hey, lets make a shitty movie about a book people only pretend to read.

film maker # 2: Can we make it bad metafilm?

film maker #1: Why not, who wanted to write a fucking script anyway. Pass that blow.

MadMatt

11-27-2007, 11:54 AM

I don't want to be "Ned Negative" but I am not thrilled about this still of Rorscach:

http://watchmencomicmovie.com/photos/rorshach_badge.jpg

The mask is supposed to be a "liquid cloth" that is continually changing and morphing - and it occasionally mirrors Rorscach's mood/emotional state. I really hope this is an early still and they are going to improve the final version.

Rorschach

11-27-2007, 12:32 PM

hrrmmmmm.....

JustJon

11-27-2007, 12:51 PM

TheMojoPin

11-27-2007, 01:07 PM

Early still? You know where it comes from? It was a single keyframe hidden in the trailer for 300 when Zack Snyder was first announced to be doing Watchmen.

Yeah, it was just a test shot and not actually part of what's being shot now.

TheMojoPin

11-27-2007, 01:08 PM

film maker # 1: Hey, lets make a shitty movie about a book people only pretend to read.

film maker # 2: Can we make it bad metafilm?

film maker #1: Why not, who wanted to write a fucking script anyway. Pass that blow.

Hater.

badorties

11-27-2007, 01:18 PM

TheMojoPin

11-27-2007, 01:22 PM

the project languished for years with terry gilliam attached ... he noted that the project could only work as a 12 hour (one per episode) series

similiar to mojo's point: i've accepted that're gonna make the film, and rarely any movie can come close to a book's scope ... but i won't concern myself too much on the smaller aspects if the film works on it own

there's something very special about this book, and it's very well gaurded by its fanbase -- anything less than a personal realization on the screen, will be considered a disaster

On the plus side, at least the director has gone out of his way to show that he's a fan of the book ad has read it many times, going so far as to involve Dave Gibbons (the artist) as much as possible.

Gilliam was the original "big name" attached, but other names were signed to it before moving on, including Darren Aronofsky and Paul Greengrass.

LiddyRules

11-27-2007, 04:39 PM

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4925/watchmenbabiesxe0.jpg

I have been laughing about that for the past 2 weeks.

Didn't they try that with the film version of Tristram Shandy? I liked that movie.

And since no one put up the stills from the sets, here goes:

http://rss.warnerbros.com/watchmen/2007/11/the_backlot.html

I think it looks great.

Rthentic

11-27-2007, 05:25 PM

I really hope that they stick to the way the book is and don't go off on a tangent. Every one of films that have been made from Alan Moore books have been taken off track (The League Of ExtraOrdinary GentleMen...I liked the film but the books are WAAAAAY better...From Hell...Also liked the film but the book is a work of brilliance).

By The Way.....If there was any doubt in anyone's mind to whether or not Alan Moore is a genius just go pick up the new League of ExtraOrdinary GentleMen, The Black Dossier. WOWZERS

Peace
RTNC

realmenhatelife

11-27-2007, 05:38 PM

Hater.

I'm full of literary rage.

DarkHippie

11-27-2007, 05:44 PM

I'm full of literary rage.

that's like black rage that got its GED

kdubya

11-27-2007, 05:51 PM

By The Way.....If there was any doubt in anyone's mind to whether or not Alan Moore is a genius just go pick up the new League of ExtraOrdinary GentleMen, The Black Dossier. WOWZERS

Peace
RTNC

I agree he is a genius so why is there this desire to take his work and change it from it's original intended medium into something else.

I mean has there ever been a move based on a noval, graphic or otherwise, that was as good as the original?

booster11373

11-27-2007, 06:01 PM

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/wm1.jpg

I already see a problem, where are the electric cars? where are the power" hydrants"?

TheMojoPin

11-27-2007, 06:41 PM

Good catch, Booster. I wonder why they would cut that out...unless they just don't want a hydrat on the newsstand corner. A lot of stuff happens there, and in a film having people refuleing and such would probaly make scenes very cluttered. I'm hoping they keep it in because stuff like that and the airships really help set the world we're in during the story. I'll bet they show up since the other photos show other details that are true to the comic:

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/wm2.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/wm3.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/wm4.jpg

Though looking over the pics, the cars seem to be giving off exhaust, which pretty much negates them being electric, right? It's not a huge deal if it's cut out, since it has nothing to do with the main parts of the story, but I wonder why they would opt to cut it out.

The Nixon sign is a HUGE plus (someone important is walking in front of it). I was really worried they were going to try and change him still being the presiden in that world's 80's. Based on the cas and fashion, it looks like they're still setting it in the mid-80's, too.

booster11373

11-27-2007, 07:06 PM

There is no way to tell the entire story that is Watchmen in the confines of a 2 hour, at the most 2 hour and 25 minute film, cant be done.

I first read Watchmen when I was 15 (I think) and I have read it probaly 10-15 times

It took me probaly 5 times before I truly understood it

And I still pick a new thing with every reading for instance

I never understood why Nixon was still Prez until a recent reading and the throw away flashback with The Comedian talking about the 2 dead reporters

Holy Shit that was dense for a comic......

Im rambling here...........

chubbyknuckles

11-27-2007, 07:12 PM

Early still? You know where it comes from? It was a single keyframe hidden in the trailer for 300 when Zack Snyder was first announced to be doing Watchmen.

And the thing that really sucks is the "Frank Miller" look is in, so def expect this movie to have that type of feel. I'm a huge Frank Miller fan, but to push watchmen into that style is going to push Alan Moore even further into the cave he lives in.

TheMojoPin

11-27-2007, 07:18 PM

And the thing that really sucks is the "Frank Miller" look is in, so def expect this movie to have that type of feel. I'm a huge Frank Miller fan, but to push watchmen into that style is going to push Alan Moore even further into the cave he lives in.

Where else do you see the "Frank Miller" look? I've only seen it in 300 and Sin City...movies made with him directly from his comics.

Snyder is now working with the Watchmen artist, Dave Gibbons, in the making of this.

TheMojoPin

11-27-2007, 07:25 PM

The main part of the book that I'll bet will be cut out are Rorschach's scenes with the psychiatrist. In the grand scheme of the book, they have little to nothing to do with the primary narrative, but they have such impact emotionally to the reader and the the rest of the book. The movie will be missing something huge by not having these scenes in there (or drastically cut down), but I don't see how they can be kept in within the expected timeframe.

I hope to God the DVD has like 90 minutes+ of deleted scenes.

chubbyknuckles

11-27-2007, 07:29 PM

Where else do you see the "Frank Miller" look? I've only seen it in 300 and Sin City...movies made with him directly from his comics.

Snyder is now working with the Watchmen artist, Dave Gibbons, in the making of this.

It's a style thats exsclusive to Miller's properties, but the watchmen stills i've seen have the 300 look, initially color wise, and you know that the spirit film, that miller himself is directing, is going to have his trademark look, which it should, but snyder , whos doing watchmen is using the same guys from 300, art director and cinematographer. And as much as i like gibbons style, its nothing stylish enough to make a film stuyle by any means, so best bet is its another , more urban 300 type look.

wow i ramble

chubbyknuckles

11-27-2007, 07:30 PM

Rthentic

11-27-2007, 07:42 PM

chubbyknuckles

11-27-2007, 07:44 PM

With all the creative energy and avenues that Alan Moore has been through, I'm actually alittle surprised that he hasn't tried to get behind the lense even if it were to be for an entirely new creation, not even an adaption of one of His own books.
Frank Miller seems to be really do a great job at it. Sin City is very true to the books, 300 was dang near panel for panel, and His next film, Will Eisner's "The Spirit" looks like it'll kick ass.

That said....With the Pirate Ship inner storyline, the vast number of characters, and alot of the underlying political stuff.....I'd like a Trilogy or atleast 2 extra subfilms in the DVD package.

Peace
RTNC

Sadly that's prolly not gonna happen, but i do know the original daredevil was supposed to be like sin city, but marvel studios nixed it, saying it wouldnt work on screen, imagine how good that could have been

realmenhatelife

11-28-2007, 11:51 AM

With all the creative energy and avenues that Alan Moore has been through, I'm actually alittle surprised that he hasn't tried to get behind the lense even if it were to be for an entirely new creation, not even an adaption of one of His own books.
Frank Miller seems to be really do a great job at it. Sin City is very true to the books, 300 was dang near panel for panel, and His next film, Will Eisner's "The Spirit" looks like it'll kick ass.

That said....With the Pirate Ship inner storyline, the vast number of characters, and alot of the underlying political stuff.....I'd like a Trilogy or atleast 2 extra subfilms in the DVD package.

Peace
RTNC

I imagine that Alan Moore hasnt gotten into film because he couldn't shoot on one of those big hand crank cameras or induce his visions in the audience with mercury vapors or laudenum spirits. Theater audiences would be hesitant to participate in mass seances and commune with the dead by having absinthe soaked bisexual orgies in graveyards. He objects to passing of velvet from popular fashion etc etc.

What I'm saying is Alan Moore is batshit crazy. He's also not a visual dude, he's a writer.

TheMojoPin

11-28-2007, 12:32 PM

JustJon

11-28-2007, 12:59 PM

With all the creative energy and avenues that Alan Moore has been through, I'm actually alittle surprised that he hasn't tried to get behind the lense even if it were to be for an entirely new creation, not even an adaption of one of His own books.
Frank Miller seems to be really do a great job at it. Sin City is very true to the books, 300 was dang near panel for panel, and His next film, Will Eisner's "The Spirit" looks like it'll kick ass.

That said....With the Pirate Ship inner storyline, the vast number of characters, and alot of the underlying political stuff.....I'd like a Trilogy or atleast 2 extra subfilms in the DVD package.

Peace
RTNC

They are filming the entire Pirate Ship story and intercutting it in the movie. Whent he DVD comes out, the pirate story, in its entirety, will be on a second disc.

Rthentic

11-28-2007, 02:44 PM

I imagine that Alan Moore hasnt gotten into film because he couldn't shoot on one of those big hand crank cameras or induce his visions in the audience with mercury vapors or laudenum spirits. Theater audiences would be hesitant to participate in mass seances and commune with the dead by having absinthe soaked bisexual orgies in graveyards. He objects to passing of velvet from popular fashion etc etc.

What I'm saying is Alan Moore is batshit crazy. He's also not a visual dude, he's a writer.

I think Moore is very visual actually. In some of the "Absolute Editions" on His books, if I remember correctly, He pretty much goes into very specific detail as to how this and that should look, be shaped, it's color, etc... That's why His initial drafts are so massive. He writes tons on direction notes for the ilustrators.
I guess all in all, It would be great to see Him get on the set and give direction to the vision of the film.
Rock On
RTNC

TheMojoPin

11-28-2007, 02:59 PM

I think Moore is very visual actually. In some of the "Absolute Editions" on His books, if I remember correctly, He pretty much goes into very specific detail as to how this and that should look, be shaped, it's color, etc... That's why His initial drafts are so massive. He writes tons on direction notes for the ilustrators.
I guess all in all, It would be great to see Him get on the set and give direction to the vision of the film.
Rock On
RTNC

Right, but like I said, the man himself has specifically said he has no interest in being involved in filmmaking, either on original projects or adaptations of his work.

And while the man clearly has a vision with his works, he really respects and sits back ad lets the artists he work worth add their parts to the story being told. Gibbons literally added issues' worth of material to Watchmenl...Moore had only written enough for 6 issues until he and Gibbons started working together and Gibbons stated sharing his ideas. I think it's unfair and very inaccurate to make it sound like the visual product of his comics are based solely or even mostly on his direction and notes, and a disservice to the artists involved who contributed tons to the finished product.

Rthentic

11-28-2007, 06:12 PM

Right, but like I said, the man himself has specifically said he has no interest in being involved in filmmaking, either on original projects or adaptations of his work.

And while the man clearly has a vision with his works, he really respects and sits back ad lets the artists he work worth add their parts to the story being told. Gibbons literally added issues' worth of material to Watchmenl...Moore had only written enough for 6 issues until he and Gibbons started working together and Gibbons stated sharing his ideas. I think it's unfair and very inaccurate to make it sound like the visual product of his comics are based solely or even mostly on his direction and notes, and a disservice to the artists involved who contributed tons to the finished product.

Oh By No Means Am I saying that Gibbons didn't do a fantastic job with the art, but, Moore was very specific in what He wanted. Nonetheless, I think that it was one of the greatest shining lights that has every been cast for them both.
I do wish He had crashed the set of "The League Of ExtraOrdinary GentleMen" though.
You should check out the PodCast from FanBoy Radio where He was interviewed when "Lost Girls" came out. Dude is really on some next shit.
Peace
RTNC

TheMojoPin

11-28-2007, 06:31 PM

Oh By No Means Am I saying that Gibbons didn't do a fantastic job with the art, but, Moore was very specific in what He wanted. Nonetheless, I think that it was one of the greatest shining lights that has every been cast for them both.
I do wish He had crashed the set of "The League Of ExtraOrdinary GentleMen" though.
You should check out the PodCast from FanBoy Radio where He was interviewed when "Lost Girls" came out. Dude is really on some next shit.
Peace
RTNC

Well, he's not going to get involved since he thinks no film adaptation can be done of his books that can match them. Egotistical, yes...but pretty much true.

The script in the Absolute edition of WM is one of the final drafts after he and Gibbons had aready mapped out what they were going to do. Like I said, Moore's original ideas only ran 6 issues. It wasn't until he started working with Gibbons did it expand to the final 12.

Rthentic

11-28-2007, 09:15 PM

Well, he's not going to get involved since he thinks no film adaptation can be done of his books that can match them. Egotistical, yes...but pretty much true.

The script in the Absolute edition of WM is one of the final drafts after he and Gibbons had aready mapped out what they were going to do. Like I said, Moore's original ideas only ran 6 issues. It wasn't until he started working with Gibbons did it expand to the final 12.

You're totally write about the series getting expanded. That right there may have been one of the most understated happening that changed the comics/books world.
I need to go recrack that Absolute WatchMen again.....Not tonight though, Ron's attack on America going down the drain is brilliant.

Peace
RTNC

Tall_James

03-06-2008, 03:10 AM

FIRST PICTURES OF THE CHARACTERS IN COSTUME!!! (http://rss.warnerbros.com/watchmen/)

Tall_James

03-06-2008, 03:14 AM

The got The Comedian right and I'm pleased with how the other characters look as well. I can't believe I have to wait another year for this.

http://rss.warnerbros.com/watchmen/ComedianFull.jpg

sailor

03-06-2008, 03:25 AM

nite owl looks like batman.

chubbyknuckles

03-06-2008, 04:25 AM

That pic has me more than amped to se this flick, and i can't wait till people se the ending. That will make them flip!

Doctor Manhattan

03-06-2008, 04:44 AM

That pic has me more than amped to se this flick, and i can't wait till people se the ending. That will make them flip!

They could just get the graphic novel and find out now.

Sheeplovr

03-06-2008, 05:47 AM

i don't want a watchmen movie anymore

Doctor Manhattan

03-06-2008, 06:00 AM

i don't want a watchmen movie anymore

This just in: Zack Snyder, Lloyd Levin, Lawrence Gordon and Deborah Snyder just held a press conference where it was announced that the whole project has been cancelled due to the fact that the release of the movie would force Alan Moore and Sheepy to buy tickets to something they feel should remain a graphic novel.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2445/posterln4.jpg

Doctor Manhattan

03-06-2008, 06:15 AM

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8443/ozymandiasyf7.png
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2332/ozymandiasfullht3.jpg

Looking at Ozymandias which reminds me of Batman and Robin, I might have to agree with Sheepy. Nite Owl isn't too bad, Comedian is great, Rorschach is too blurry to tell but so far it works for me.

Once I see Doctor Manhattan, I will have a better feeling about this thing (at least the costumes. The quality of the film doesn't depend on the costumes.)

Despite Ozy, I will trust in Zack

badorties

04-17-2008, 07:30 AM

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080415/watchmen_l.jpg

AnnoyedGrunt

04-17-2008, 08:08 AM

I thought they nixed the idea of action figures due to being ethically very uncertain about Rorschach and Nite Owl. Instead they were going to create a costumed army of terrorists because they traditionally sold well during war time.

badorties

04-17-2008, 08:10 AM

sr71blackbird

04-19-2008, 07:05 PM

I wonder if they will go with an owlship and isn't Nite Owl suppose to be over weight after years of inactivity?
Will Dr Manhattan be done CGI like the Silver Surfer?

Here is Rumrunners door:

http://www.firstshowing.net/img/watchmen-rumrunner-dr.jpg

sr71blackbird

04-19-2008, 07:35 PM

Check this out...

<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/NkV-irbIa-k&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/NkV-irbIa-k&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

Drunky McBetidont

05-15-2008, 05:23 AM

i just hope jon is big, blue and naked.
is jj abrahms lending the cloverfield monster to viedt?

i actually just read the book over the last couple of days. i have to say it was the best graphic novel i have ever read and i feel like talking about it to someone else who read it. so many questions.....

Drunky McBetidont

05-15-2008, 09:00 AM

http://darwen.us/darrell/blographics/061006a.jpg

sailor

05-15-2008, 09:09 AM

great cast

Doctor Manhattan

05-15-2008, 09:59 AM

i just hope jon is big, blue and naked.
is jj abrahms lending the cloverfield monster to viedt?

It has been way too long since I read it so I am not the best person to ask questions. I will re-read it before the movie.

Was the "monster" shown in the book? Or was it just the aftermath that we see?

AnnoyedGrunt

05-15-2008, 01:14 PM

We kind of see it. A couple times before we even know what it is we see the artist renderings. Then when we see the real thing it's half inside a building. It kind of looks like Mother Brain from Metroid, but with multicolored tentacles and an asshole for a mouth.

ste7en

05-17-2008, 02:11 AM

Here is a better Ozymandias

http://www.nbc.com/American_Gladiators/images/photos/scet/1927/titan_0327.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8443/ozymandiasyf7.png
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2332/ozymandiasfullht3.jpg

Looking at Ozymandias which reminds me of Batman and Robin, I might have to agree with Sheepy. Nite Owl isn't too bad, Comedian is great, Rorschach is too blurry to tell but so far it works for me.

Once I see Doctor Manhattan, I will have a better feeling about this thing (at least the costumes. The quality of the film doesn't depend on the costumes.)

Despite Ozy, I will trust in Zack

AnnoyedGrunt

05-27-2008, 01:34 PM

A look at the 40's Minutemen

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/5121/mmpicqr2.jpg

Gvac

05-27-2008, 03:59 PM

This is the only comic book movie I've ever given a shit about.

If they fuck this up I'll be inconsolable.

Rorschach

05-27-2008, 04:00 PM

This is the only comic book movie I've ever given a shit about.

If they fuck this up I'll be inconsolable.

faggot

Bossanova

05-27-2008, 04:03 PM

faggot

WOW, and I thought I was gay

Gvac

05-27-2008, 04:05 PM

WOW, and I thought I was gay

We'll find out once and for all who's gayer.

I've gone straight to the authority - Mr. Jay Mohr. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=69733&page=3)

TheMojoPin

05-27-2008, 04:27 PM

Prepare to be inconsolable.

DiabloSammich

05-27-2008, 04:31 PM

This is the only comic book movie I've ever given a shit about.

If they fuck this up I'll be inconsolable.

Prepare to be inconsolable.

Please allow me to be the first to say....

I'm sorry, is there anything I can do?

badorties

05-28-2008, 08:50 AM

Watchmen: Three Hour Theatrical Cut? 4 1/2+ Hour Directors Cut DVD Planned (http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/05/27/watchmen-three-hour-theatrical-cut-4-12-hour-directors-cut-dvd-planned/)

But the New York Times confirms that the budget was indeed too high (over $20 million), and that Warner Bros will be releasing a 100% animated Tale of the Black Freighter on DVD a mere five days after Watchmen hits theaters on March 6th 2008.

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/watchmennewsstand.jpg

TheMojoPin

05-28-2008, 09:12 AM

booster11373

05-28-2008, 11:34 AM

Watchmen needs a theatrical releases budget and production abilities with a TV mini-series time allowances.

Tall_James

07-17-2008, 12:55 PM

Here is the teaser trailer.... (http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1670081657)

booster11373

07-17-2008, 01:15 PM

WOW I think they might have done it justice

AnnoyedGrunt

07-17-2008, 03:33 PM

The comic geek in me says that it looks pretty faithful, even if they had to add more flare to the action.

As a movie geek I find it laughable to consider Zack Snyder a visionary director. And the CGI looks kind of cheap to me, though I suppose they still have time to work on it.

HBox

07-17-2008, 05:42 PM

That was the best trailer I've ever seen in my life.

TooLowBrow

07-17-2008, 05:49 PM

they made a cheesy looking comic look like hollywood movie. i liked it

booster11373

07-17-2008, 05:54 PM

they made a cheesy looking comic look like hollywood movie. i liked it

are you kidding me?

blakjeezis

07-17-2008, 07:03 PM

I'm into it. The trailer, that is. I can't say it made me believe they've successfully done what most considered to be impossible, but it is a pretty sick trailer.

New link, since the old one appears to have been yanked (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x65tqi_watchmen-trailer_news)

I just watched it again: Not so into the Smashing Pumpkins or whatever, but that's merely a taste thing. The shot of Doc Manhattan being ripped apart is fucking amazing, dude.

spadanko

07-17-2008, 07:14 PM

TheMojoPin

07-17-2008, 08:54 PM

they made a cheesy looking comic look like hollywood movie. i liked it

OK, Wolverine fan. Sorry it doesn't have the gravitas of "bub-snikt-snikt-bub."

TheMojoPin

07-17-2008, 08:59 PM

I don't know what to think about this.

Snyder is clearly passionate about translating the book as much as possible, and some parts of that trailer are downright chill-inducing, but other parts just seem way too glossy and "pumped up."

Well, here's hoping.

SHANEFROMGA

07-18-2008, 07:44 AM

this movie will have to be 5 hours long to get all the plots and at least enough of the subplots that make the book so good.

TheMojoPin

07-18-2008, 07:49 AM

KingGeno

07-18-2008, 08:18 AM

It broke today that Snyder is struggling to get the movie under 3 hours. Maybe a Kill Bill-like split?

HBox

07-18-2008, 08:39 AM

I really could have done without them showing Mars in the trailer. I mean it looks fuck awesome but its going to cheapen the movie a bit.

07-18-2008, 09:04 AM

Supposedly Snyder has shot most or all of the pirate story for the director's cut DVD, which reportedly will hover around 4 hours.

nice.

I love when they do that- you can make it "theater length" but add back the all of the stuff for DVD for those who want to see your vision.

KingGeno

07-18-2008, 09:17 AM

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Watchman - Comic Panel to Movie Comparison
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Pretty accurate translation, I must say.

Aqualad

07-18-2008, 09:26 AM

I see no reason for this movie to exist.

Tall_James

07-18-2008, 09:56 AM

Warner Bros. Digital Distribution and Warner Premiere announced today a new way for graphic novel fans to connect with their favorite characters and the stories they know and love through short-form digital content. “Warner Premiere’s Motion Comics” draw on a massive amount of source material to bring a visually engaging experience to life through the use of subtle movements, voice-overs, sweeping music scores and stunning comic book artwork. The highly anticipated debut episode of DC Comics “Watchmen” is now available exclusively as a free iTunes download for the next two weeks via Entertainment Weekly’s website (www.ew.com/watchmen).

I downloaded this for free to my iPod and was very impressed with the quality of the production.

booster11373

07-18-2008, 11:15 AM

I was very happy to see the amount of physical sets as opposed to all green screen.

Ive come to really dislike the virtual sets in films like 300 and Sin City and was worried that Watchmen would resemble them because of things Ive read and Snyders past use

MisterSmith

07-18-2008, 11:25 AM

this movie will have to be 5 hours long to get all the plots and at least enough of the subplots that make the book so good.

Supposedly Snyder has shot most or all of the pirate story for the director's cut DVD, which reportedly will hover around 4 hours.

It broke today that Snyder is struggling to get the movie under 3 hours. Maybe a Kill Bill-like split?

I read an article (it may be linked in this thread) that stated "Watchmen" is going to be on the level of "Lord of the Rings." The release is going to be around 3 hours with the extended DVD version clocking around 5 hours and will include tons of extras.

Also, they are supposed to be making a mini-movie of "Tales of the Black Freighter" that is going to be animated and released around the time of the Watchmen wide-release (along with other extras related to the creation of Watchmen). "...Black Freighter" was originally going to be live-action in the style of "300" but the $20 million price tag forced them to rethink it. Now it is going to be 'anime style.'

MisterSmith

07-18-2008, 11:31 AM

badorties

07-18-2008, 11:44 AM

Supposedly Snyder has shot most or all of the pirate story for the director's cut DVD, which reportedly will hover around 4 hours.

i think it'll be released around the week of the movie's debut ... then probably re-released and packaged with the LOTR type DVD set

KingGeno

07-18-2008, 11:49 AM

Also, does anybody know what song they use in the trailer? It sounds like Billy Corgan and/or Smashing Pumkins, but I don't know their catalog very well; it could be an old song and I would never know.

The name of the song is 'The Beginning is the End is the Beginning' - Smashing Pumpkins.

BUT

This version of the song is the one released on the Batman & Robin soundtrack. If you try to find the normal version, it is real fast tempo. I like the slower one better.

King Imp

07-21-2008, 10:28 AM

Freitag

07-21-2008, 10:41 AM

So, I never read this novel, so I don't know much about these guys. The trailer looks really cool, but I gotta ask something.

Aside from Dr. Manhattan, what do any of these others do that makes them "superheroes"? I mean, take Rorschach for example. I could walk around with a lighter and an aerosol can as well. Would that make me a superhero?

That's the interesting thing. Outside of Ozy and Manhattan (Ozy being an equivalent to Captain America with extreme intelligence), none of them in fact have powers.

All of them are the equivalent to Batman, with varying levels of insanity. Nite-Owl has all the gadgets and the money, Rorshach is the investigator, Silk Spectre is the fighter, Comedian was the muscle/dark side craziness.

07-21-2008, 10:41 AM

So, I never read this novel, so I don't know much about these guys. The trailer looks really cool, but I gotta ask something.

Aside from Dr. Manhattan, what do any of these others do that makes them "superheroes"? I mean, take Rorschach for example. I could walk around with a lighter and an aerosol can as well. Would that make me a superhero?

I'm currently reading it now, so there are others more knowledgeable, but I think that's kind of the point; the others don't have special powers - they just worked to get themselves to be "costumed adventurers"

King Imp

07-21-2008, 03:00 PM

TheMojoPin

07-21-2008, 03:04 PM

That's the interesting thing. Outside of Ozy and Manhattan (Ozy being an equivalent to Captain America with extreme intelligence), none of them in fact have powers.

Is Ozy really like Cap? Unless I'm blanking, Ozy is just in Olympic-class physical shape through an insane training routine over the years. Cap in any version gets his from a "super soldier serum" that gives him varying degrees of superhuman strength and abilities.

frye hole

07-21-2008, 03:16 PM

rotuine

Isn't that where most of Star Wars takes place?

TheMojoPin

07-21-2008, 03:18 PM

Isn't that where most of Star Wars takes place?

It's a wretched hive of virginity and back acne.

thejives

07-21-2008, 05:57 PM

The name of the song is 'The Beginning is the End is the Beginning' - Smashing Pumpkins.

BUT

This version of the song is the one released on the Batman & Robin soundtrack. If you try to find the normal version, it is real fast tempo. I like the slower one better.

Actually, I think the Batman and Robin won (which startlingly won a Grammy) was The End is the Beginning is the End. This song is the B-Side to that single, the Beginning is the End is the Beginning.

Which, if you ask me, is pretty ballsy for the director to use a song so closely associated with one of the shittiest comic book movies of all time. We're being goaded, but it looks like he's got it all lined up.

The movie looks damn good so far--except for Dr. Manhattan's absurdly dark nipples. Why do comic book movies always fail when it comes to nipples?

Tenbatsuzen

07-21-2008, 06:05 PM

Is Ozy really like Cap? Unless I'm blanking, Ozy is just in Olympic-class physical shape through an insane training routine over the years. Cap in any version gets his from a "super soldier serum" that gives him varying degrees of superhuman strength and abilities.

Ozy's intelligence is his "powers".

thejives

07-21-2008, 06:17 PM

Ozy's intelligence is his "powers".

Like Mikeyboy...

TheMojoPin

07-21-2008, 06:25 PM

Ozy's intelligence is his "powers".

Which still doesn't make him like Captain America since Cap's tactial thinking stems from the serum.

MisterSmith

07-21-2008, 06:29 PM

That's the interesting thing. Outside of Ozy and Manhattan (Ozy being an equivalent to Captain America with extreme intelligence), none of them in fact have powers.

All of them are the equivalent to Batman, with varying levels of insanity. Nite-Owl has all the gadgets and the money, Rorshach is the investigator, Silk Spectre is the fighter, Comedian was the muscle/dark side craziness.

Is Ozy really like Cap? Unless I'm blanking, Ozy is just in Olympic-class physical shape through an insane training routine over the years. Cap in any version gets his from a "super soldier serum" that gives him varying degrees of superhuman strength and abilities.

Most of the characters were actually based on early Charlton Comics characters that DC had purchased. Moore was going to use several of the characters for Watchmen, but after reading an early draft of the story, the higher-ups at DC had him create new characters based on the Charlton characters. They knew that they couldn't be used for anything else after Watchmen finished.

Although all of the characters were modified slightly (or substantially in the case of Dr. M and his power level), Ozymandias is actually based on the Charlton character Thunderbolt.

Wikipedia has a good bit of info on this stuff, as well as several comic and fan websites.

TheMojoPin

07-21-2008, 06:54 PM

MisterSmith

07-21-2008, 07:00 PM

Yeah, Rorschach was originally going to be the Question, Dr. Manhattan would have been Captain Atom and Night Owl would have been Blue Beetle. They ultimately didn't really adjust those characters all that much.

Yeah, the biggest changes were in Dr. Manhattan/Captain Atom. In the Watchmen, Dr. M has immense, god-like powers while Captain Atom is very powerful but conventionally so.

TheMojoPin

07-21-2008, 07:05 PM

Yeah, the biggest changes were in Dr. Manhattan/Captain Atom. In the Watchmen, Dr. M has immense, god-like powers while Captain Atom is very powerful but conventionally so.

Nowadays he is, but at the time he just had very vague "atomic powers" and hadn't been used for years.

Tall_James

07-22-2008, 06:34 AM

Has anyone been able to find any good pics of Carla Gugino as Silk Spectre? All I keep seeing are pics of this other woman who is playing Silk Spectre II and frankly she really doesn't have the body to fill out that costume like Gugino can.

http://superherohype.com/nextraimages/sallyjupiterpinup.jpg

From Superherohype.com:

James Jean created this illustration for the Watchmen movie that can be seen briefly in the trailer. He writes on his site:

At 1:32 into the Watchmen trailer, you can see a glimpse of an illustration I did for the movie. Alex McDowell asked me to create a Vargas-esque portrait of Sally Jupiter, played by Carla Gugino. It only appears for 1 second in the trailer, but the illustration is supposed to play a larger role in that particular scene.

grlNIN

07-22-2008, 06:59 AM

IMDB has a still shot of Sally Jupiter and The Comedian, i'm sure you were probably looking for a body shot 'cause this one is only shoulders up.

KingGeno

07-22-2008, 07:00 AM

Carla Gugino is so hot, yet she is somehow manhandled while half-naked/naked in every movie she is in. So smokin.....

07-22-2008, 09:27 AM

I thought this was interesting.

Watchmen Comic Book to Movie Comparison Video (http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/22/watchmen-comic-book-to-movie-comparison-video/)

/Film reader Andrew F created a video which inter-cuts between Zack Snyder’s Watchmen movie trailer and the original comic book panels. I wish it had been done in a side by side format, but it’s cool none the less.

booster11373

07-22-2008, 05:22 PM

I know it might be to early to tell but does anyone know what part of the comics the scene at 1.35 in the trailer is referencing?

Nite Owl is screaming and appears to be falling to his knees

The background has snow which so its might be Ozy's Antartic fortress but I dont remember Nite Owl screaming in that part and I just reread the series over the last 2 days and that scene in the trailer bothers me

Did I miss something?

Any thoughts?

TeeBone

07-22-2008, 05:33 PM

How can they make this movie under 7 hours long?
I hope this is a long movie with an intermission.
I can't wait...

booster11373

07-22-2008, 05:41 PM

While read the "Black Freighter" parts the first time I read Watchmen I skip over them whenever I re-read it

If its not part of the movie or a stand alone extra wont really bug me

JustJon

07-23-2008, 09:15 AM

While read the "Black Freighter" parts the first time I read Watchmen I skip over them whenever I re-read it

If its not part of the movie or a stand alone extra wont really bug me

It's part of the movie and being filmed in its entirety to be a dvd extra.

Doctor Manhattan

07-24-2008, 07:23 AM

Has anyone been able to find any good pics of Carla Gugino as Silk Spectre? All I keep seeing are pics of this other woman who is playing Silk Spectre II and frankly she really doesn't have the body to fill out that costume like Gugino can.

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2387/silkspectreju1.jpg

I agree. I think Carla would have been good as Laurie Juspeczyk.

I like the look of the movie but don't really like the look of the characters themselves (except for The Comedian who looks great.) Doctor Manhattan is growing on me, I realize that would be impossible to make him look exactly like he does in the graphic novel.

badorties

07-24-2008, 08:07 AM

'Watchmen' Video Game Preview: Rorschach And Nite Owl Star In Subversive Prequel Set In 1970sThe downloadable episodic game will coincide with movie's release in 2009. (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1591385/20080723/index.jhtml?rsspartner=rssMozilla)

gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6194913.html) has another article about the game, and how it might set a precedent for video games (distribution)

loved the book, cautiously excited for the movie and completely indifferent towards any video games

AnnoyedGrunt

07-24-2008, 08:07 AM

I still wonder how they'll deal with Jon's nudity. Is he just going to be like a Ken doll?

Doctor Manhattan

07-24-2008, 11:35 AM

I still wonder how they'll deal with Jon's nudity. Is he just going to be like a Ken doll?

It looked like I/he was nude in the cafeteria in the trailer, I think a penis is okay if it's a non-human color (ala Silver Surfer, whom I think had his silver junk out in the Fantasic Four 2 trailer)

TheMojoPin

07-24-2008, 11:41 AM

CAWK & BAWLS OR NOTHING AT ALL.

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booster11373

07-24-2008, 11:43 AM

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2387/silkspectreju1.jpg

I agree. I think Carla would have been good as Laurie Juspeczyk.

I like the look of the movie but don't really like the look of the characters themselves (except for The Comedian who looks great.) Doctor Manhattan is growing on me, I realize that would be impossible to make him look exactly like he does in the graphic novel.

I will agree with you on that point, The costumes are growing on me, Silk Specters is, I think better then the book

But all of the actors are 2 young!!!

These are middle age people!!!

Doctor Manhattan

07-24-2008, 11:51 AM

But all of the actors are 2 young!!!

These are middle age people!!!

That is Hollywood for you. They want a "sexy" cast. I understand why Alan Moore doesn't want any of his stuff turned into a film.

King Imp

07-24-2008, 01:26 PM

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2387/silkspectreju1.jpg

Yeah, I've seen that pic and strangly enough that seems to be the only pic of Gugino in the movie. What, does she get killed off in the first 5 minutes?

Freitag

07-24-2008, 01:36 PM

Which still doesn't make him like Captain America since Cap's tactial thinking stems from the serum.

Ozy was a mutant, it seems... born smart, hiding his intelligence from his parents.

SpicyMcHaggis

07-24-2008, 02:35 PM

Perhaps the opium he took in the desert at a young age opened his mind so much he was able to take massive amounts of information into his brain thus developing it to think faster than most.

Or he's just born smart.

KingGeno

07-24-2008, 02:41 PM

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37561

Capone Interviews Ozymandias! Matthew Goode Talks WATCHMEN!

Capone: So you realize I'm only going to be asking you WATCHMEN questions, right?

MG: Perfect! I'm so happy to do that.

Capone: So are you going to San Diego for the big ComicCon presentation?

MG: Yes, I am.

Capone: I'll probably see you there. Do you have any idea what [director] Zack Snyder will be showing?

MG: I would imagine, considering the trailer is going out with DARK KNIGHT. That makes good sense for Warner Brothers. So I'd imagine they're going to be showing extra material, otherwise people who made the effort to get down there will go, "I'm pissed. This is the shit we've already seen." I haven't seen anything myself really. I've had to looping, some re-recording of sound on one or two tiny scenes in it, so they've either cut me out of the movie or the original recording was as good as it needs to be. So I've seen so little, but the stuff I've seen has been "Oh, fuck me! Wow! There's Bubastis; there's my fucking cat!" Because there's very little CGI in it.

Capone: I noticed that just from the video diaries that Zack put on line. I wasn't seeing, like he did with 300, the green screens every single shot. Everything looked very real and practical.

MG: Well, we had these huge, huge sets. There's so much attention to detail, and they had this massive backlot, which was New York. It was incredible. And thank God because it is the CITIZEN KANE of graphic novels. It needs to be visionary and real. We're actually not as accepting of false things these days. We want to go back to old school and the scale of a CITZEN KANE. I fucking hate CGI.

Capone: You mentioned DARK KNIGHT a minute ago, there's hardly any CGI in that.

MG: Yeah, we want the sets, we want the kind of old school visionary. And the minute some crap CGI comes on [in other films], it takes you right out of the story. Obviously, when we have things like a 100-foot Dr. Manhattan, sorry to disappoint you, but that's CGI. Having not seen it myself and having spoken to Zack, he said, "The running time is about three hours right now, and what Warner Bros. don't really get yet is that I've made a three-hour arthouse film." [laughs] "That sounds great!" So I think his integrity with it, and even the color palate he's using, it's trying to serve only the novel and the fans. It's not something he's come on board and reinvented. Obviously, you have to have your own vision, but you've got it storyboarded there, right there for you. He's done as much as he can with the way he's cast it and give as much of the budget as he can to fulfilling the vision of the film. And there were other directors attached like Paul Greengrass [and Darren Aronofsky and Terry Gilliam], who have a great back catalog, and with Zack, other than 300, he's very new. He's been working with a camera for however many fucking years, but to the film world, he's only done two films. But I honestly think we've got the best man for the job.

Capone: Zack was kind enough to bring a nearly completed 300 to our Butt Numb-a-Thon a couple of Decembers ago, and I know more than a few of us are hoping he bring WATCHMEN this year.

MG: The movie is cut now. He's just doing the CGI now. I could imagine by December, it could well be done. It goes out worldwide in March. It just depends on how secretive they're going to be.

Capone: It must have been pretty much impossible not to want to play the smartest man in the world. That's not a title that is bestowed upon many actors in their lifetime.

MG: My God. And it certainly won't be when this interview comes out, will it? [laughs] It's one of those weird things, I didn't have any knowledge of WATCHMEN. It's not a world where I came from. And a lot of my friends did have knowledge, and I'd say, "I've been given this job. I'm playing this guy called Ozymandias in WATCHMEN." And they're like, "I fucking hate you." "But I don't know anything about it." "READ IT!!!" It was only after I read it that I was like, "Oh my God." I then understood the enormity of what I was undertaking, because it's the best graphic novel out there. I don't have a huge amount to compare it to, but the depth of the story, the way it's written, the peculiarities in the structure of it. It's the most thought-out, deeply intelligent of the lot of them. So you sign on. And I was one of the last to be cast, and knowing the interest of other, much larger actors who wanted the role, combined with the fact that Zack just gave it to me on a plate really, I would have been an idiot to turn it down. I was scared, for sure.

Capone: Your character is one of those classic comic book villains who isn't evil per se; he thinks what he's doing is for the greater good. He does see some righteousness in what he's doing.

MG: For sure. He's morally ambiguous. He's kind of a crossover to Rorschach really, because people go right to him; he's the character people love. And by the end, people realize there's a sociopathic-ness between both these characters, but really you just want to be right and you would forsake the world's safety because of that. As opposed to Ozymandias, who's like, "I get it, but we needs someone to be fucking practical about this." It's the reverse of SAVING PRIVATE RYAN. I've done it, I save the world, and I've done it in the way, but it's pretty much the only way it could have been done. I don't know about you, but I've sat around and joked with people about how it's going to take some outside force for the whole world to unite, which is giving a little bit away. It may or may not be this rather large creation of Adrian Veidt that comes to attack and kill people. I loved the character, and I love that you don't know anything about his real backstory, and that may or may not upset the fanbase. I mean, you know his parents were very wealthy, you now that he gave that wealth away and went on a trip, and he took some hash, and he had these vision with the Ozymandias, the King of Thebes. But we said there has to be some understanding with it.

And I came in to Zack one day because I'd gotten quite drunk--I find that always really helps, as I learned from Paul Newman, go get drunk and think about your character on your own--and I said to him, it would be interesting in a very comic book kind of way to ask why did he give his parents' money away? Perhaps it's because his parents were Nazis, and he was ashamed of that wealth. And also it would be a way to challenge his own intellect. Did he live in Germany before? Wouldn't it be interesting if he did come over here post-WWII after having grown up there as a child? He speaks the German language, and he has an accent. So when he comes over, he works himself up into being this very successful man when we first see him, but how can we distinguish between the public and the private persona? That way, he's the epitome of the American dream. He's built himself up as a self-made man effectively. So the entire world knows him as this guy who speaks with a perfect American accent…hopefully [laughs], but actually with the Watchmen, there's a hint of German, which grows a bit stronger. But that's more from a technical standpoint for me. But having that sort of duplicity made it much more layered and interesting.

Capone: Is that something you came up with or something you and Zack did together?

MG: My idea, but he let me do it.

grlNIN

07-24-2008, 04:41 PM

Yeah, I've seen that pic and strangly enough that seems to be the only pic of Gugino in the movie. What, does she get killed off in the first 5 minutes?

Ireadinaninterviewthattherapesceneistheopenertothe movie.

Myfuckingkeyboardbroke,also.

TheMojoPin

07-24-2008, 09:01 PM

Ozy was a mutant, it seems... born smart, hiding his intelligence from his parents.

Is he? He just seems exceptionally intelligent and determined and focused.

Pretty cool this flick got the cover and big feature in the new EW. I didn't know that it's going to be rated R, which is pretty cool.

Apparently an extended trailer and more footage is going to be screened at Comic Con this weekend, like with TDK last year, though none of that ever leaked.

TheMojoPin

07-24-2008, 09:05 PM

It's really amazing how just one trailer has sent people out in droves to pick up the book. My store sold out on Monday of the 5 copies we had and 4 people asked me alone tonight if we had it.

07-25-2008, 08:53 AM

Is he? He just seems exceptionally intelligent and determined and focused.

Pretty cool this flick got the cover and big feature in the new EW. I didn't know that it's going to be rated R, which is pretty cool.

Apparently an extended trailer and more footage is going to be screened at Comic Con this weekend, like with TDK last year, though none of that ever leaked.

the EW is available online.
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20213067_20213068_20213273,00.html

MisterSmith

07-25-2008, 09:28 AM

I'm sorry, but every picture of Ozymandias that I see makes me think he is horribly miscast. He is just a scrawny, douchey looking guy that doesn't inspire much of anything besides laughter.

Even before he was in The Dark Knight, I thought Aaron Eckhart would be good as Ozymandias. He just has "the look" IMO. Plus he is a good actor.

TheMojoPin

07-25-2008, 09:37 AM

I'm sorry, but every picture of Ozymandias that I see makes me think he is horribly miscast. He is just a scrawny, douchey looking guy that doesn't inspire much of anything besides laughter.

I agree that his costume looks ridiculous and makes him look tiny, but the upside is that he's only in it towards the end.

Oddly enough, it's a costume that should translate easily since it isn't mostly of the tights 'n' trunks variety in the comic and consists mostly of what seems like a tunic, yet they opted to make it the former for the movie version.

As for his size, it actually makes sense that he wouldn't be a hulking brute since he seemed to be more of a gymnast/martial arts-style athlete.

Back in the day, I always wanted to Tom Cruise to play him since he had to be "pretty," egotistical and aloof but had to ultimately seem like all kinds of craziness lurking just below the surface.

MisterSmith

07-25-2008, 09:45 AM

I agree that his costume looks ridiculous and makes him look tiny, but the upside is that he's only in it towards the end.

Oddly enough, it's a costume that should translate easily since it isn't mostly of the tights 'n' trunks variety in the comic and consists mostly of what seems like a tunic, yet they opted to make it the former for the movie version.

As for his size, it actually makes sense that he wouldn't be a hulking brute since he seemed to be more of a gymnast/martial arts-style athlete.

Back in the day, I always wanted to Tom Cruise to play him since he had to be "pretty," egotistical and aloof but had to ultimately seem like all kinds of craziness lurking just below the surface.

Sadly, they seem to have gone with the costume they did to make up for what the actor lacks. Ozymandias is the biggest disappointment I have going into the movie

For example, look at somebody like Paul Hamm who is an Olympic level gymnast. He is not a hulk, but is very thoroughly muscled. Even if you go the route of an athlete that is in the decathlon, they still have some bulk although they are also pushing for speed, endurance, and flexibility.

For somebody who is supposed to be "the complete package" as far as physical ability and intelligence, the person they chose for the role simply seems to be less than the role requires.

Again, it is totally my opinion and am happy to alter my viewpoint depending on how the movie turns out. It is really too early to make a complete judgment call.

TheMojoPin

07-25-2008, 09:56 AM

Sadly, they seem to have gone with the costume they did to make up for what the actor lacks. Ozymandias is the biggest disappointment I have going into the movie

For example, look at somebody like Paul Hamm who is an Olympic level gymnast. He is not a hulk, but is very thoroughly muscled. Even if you go the route of an athlete that is in the decathlon, they still have some bulk although they are also pushing for speed, endurance, and flexibility.

For somebody who is supposed to be "the complete package" as far as physical ability and intelligence, the person they chose for the role simply seems to be less than the role requires.

Again, it is totally my opinion and am happy to alter my viewpoint depending on how the movie turns out. It is really too early to make a complete judgment call.

Nah, I hear you. The costume looks goofy. It's way too over-sculpted and over-muscled for the actor. I think it actually makes him look smaller than he really is, because if that's him clobbering the dude into a fountain and not a stuntman, he's bigger than he looks in the 'roid-costume.

Tall_James

07-26-2008, 05:49 AM

New posters. The Sally Jupiter one is so S&M!

http://pics.livejournal.com/lay_of_luthien/pic/006kb519
http://pics.livejournal.com/lay_of_luthien/pic/006k64hr
http://pics.livejournal.com/lay_of_luthien/pic/006k77w6
http://pics.livejournal.com/lay_of_luthien/pic/006k8dr3
http://pics.livejournal.com/lay_of_luthien/pic/006k9rzy
http://pics.livejournal.com/lay_of_luthien/pic/006kapw9

booster11373

07-26-2008, 07:10 AM

Why is the Nite Owl quote from 1986?

Doctor Manhattan

07-30-2008, 11:15 AM

Did they include the "Who watches the Watchmen" quote somewhere on Sally's poster? I see it in all the others

KingGeno

07-30-2008, 11:37 AM

Did they include the "Who watches the Watchmen" quote somewhere on Sally's poster? I see it in all the others

They didn't include it on hers, because that was before the passing of the Superhero Registration act.

Another:
http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/894/894141/watchmen-20080727055402611.jpg

Doctor Manhattan

07-30-2008, 12:09 PM

They didn't include it on hers, because that was before the passing of the Superhero Registration act.[/IMG]

That's right, I need to re-read the books

AnnoyedGrunt

07-30-2008, 12:18 PM

The Keene Act is what made the vigilantes in Watchmen retire. The Superhuman Registration Act is what kicked off the Cicil War storyline.

< /nitpick>

Drunky McBetidont

07-30-2008, 12:22 PM

That's right, I need to re-read the books

but, but... you lived it. :sad::huh::unsure:

MisterSmith

07-30-2008, 12:54 PM

That's right, I need to re-read the books

but, but... you lived it. :sad::huh::unsure:

Yeah, and as soon as he said it, Doctor Manhattan was back at the first time he read Watchmen.

The picture falls from my hand.

TheMojoPin

07-30-2008, 01:04 PM

Yeah, and as soon as he said it, Doctor Manhattan was back at the first time he read Watchmen.

The picture falls from my hand.

A beautiful woman hands me a cold glass of beer.

MisterSmith

07-30-2008, 01:07 PM

A beautiful woman hands me a cold glass of beer.

:thumbup:

KingGeno

07-30-2008, 08:04 PM

http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/hw800/28775.jpg
http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/hw800/28774.jpg
http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/hw800/28773.jpg
http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/hw800/28776.jpg
http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/hw800/28771.jpg
http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/hw800/28772.jpg

booster11373

07-31-2008, 03:33 PM

Anyone watch the "animated" comic?

Its interesting but its distracting that the same guy does all the voices even the female

TooLowBrow

07-31-2008, 03:46 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3257/2720382605_00749d8980_o.png
check out the close-up on jean grey

Dr Steve

07-31-2008, 08:06 PM

It's really amazing how just one trailer has sent people out in droves to pick up the book. My store sold out on Monday of the 5 copies we had and 4 people asked me alone tonight if we had it.

Mojo:

Do you have any ABSOLUTE Watchmen? I wanted to send one to our dear Fezzie, but they're out of print.

I hear they're resoliciting for November...ugh, why do they let stuff like this disappear like that? Thanks to a dearth of supply, a $69 book is now selling for $200 online. Great for collectors (mine is worth $200, but I'd never sell it, ha), but poopy for people who'd just like to buy a great copy of a great book.

For everyone else, here's a link to this edition...check out the fan photos!

http://www.amazon.com/Watchmen-Absolute-Alan-Moore/dp/1401207138/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217563334&sr=8-13

ALSO! For the longest time I was sure "The Comedian" was being played by Robert Downey Jr. In the trailer, Jeffrey Dean Morgan looks just like him. Poo. I was getting really excited about a RDJr cameo.

TheMojoPin

07-31-2008, 08:24 PM

Mojo:

Do you have any ABSOLUTE Watchmen? I wanted to send one to our dear Fezzie, but they're out of print.

Sadly, no. Sold the last one a couple months ago.

Tha's why I snatch up the Absolutes pretty fast...DC keeps very few of them in print.

Rthentic

07-31-2008, 08:39 PM

Sadly, no. Sold the last one a couple months ago.

Tha's why I snatch up the Absolutes pretty fast...DC keeps very few of them in print.

WOW, Is it really out of print? I'm glad I have one.....Glad I have a League Of ExtraOrdinary GentleMen as well

08-02-2008, 08:49 AM

I bought Absolute Watchmen around April from Buy.com (it was cheaper than Borders).

If anyone wants, I was able to grab online computer scans of the Watchmen.
You download the cbr files (basically fancy jpg).
go here and d/l a reader.

ComicDisplayReader (http://www.geocities.com/davidayton/CDisplay)

Here is volumes 1-4 (of 12)
https://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=batch_download&batch_id=Q01INnFKYUl3NUpjR0E9PQ

Parts 5-8
https://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=batch_download&batch_id=Q01INnFCZEtubHcwTVE9PQ

Part 9-12

https://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=batch_download&batch_id=Q01INnFOR0Y4aU94dnc9PQ

donnie_darko

08-03-2008, 12:17 PM

the links are cool, but normally the mods on this site frown upon such things.

i saw the preview for this before batman (finally) and i have to say i was impressed, this may be the first instance for me where the film is better than the source material.. I never found the watchmen too interesting.

but the preview has me excited to see it, but i definitely won't be re-reading it before hand.

MisterSmith

08-03-2008, 02:02 PM

I bought Absolute Watchmen around April from Buy.com (it was cheaper than Borders).

If anyone wants, I was able to grab online computer scans of the Watchmen.

Thanks a lot PD. Those are a lot better resolution than the scans I have viewed previously.

And before anybody gets up in arms, I already own a hard copy of Watchmen (although not the Absolute Edition), so it is completely legit to have an electronic "backup" of it.

Thanks again PD. :bye:

08-05-2008, 07:58 AM

Thanks a lot PD. Those are a lot better resolution than the scans I have viewed previously.

And before anybody gets up in arms, I already own a hard copy of Watchmen (although not the Absolute Edition), so it is completely legit to have an electronic "backup" of it.

Thanks again PD. :bye:

actually I own the absolute edition, but lent it to a friend.
I also have a version of the comic display reader for my palm pilot (yes, I'm the guy who still has a palm) so I can re-read some stuff on that while commuting; way easier than bringing the absolute edition with me.

King Imp

08-09-2008, 11:00 AM

This is silly, but I got a kick out of it nonetheless.

Rorschach (http://please-kill-me.ytmnd.com/) (sound needs to be on)

MisterSmith

08-09-2008, 12:01 PM

This is silly, but I got a kick out of it nonetheless.

Rorschach (http://please-kill-me.ytmnd.com/) (sound needs to be on)

:lol: That's a good one.

Foster

08-09-2008, 12:07 PM

This is silly, but I got a kick out of it nonetheless.

Rorschach (http://please-kill-me.ytmnd.com/) (sound needs to be on)

What he is saying makes no sense what so ever.
....but maybe thats because its out of context

mikeyboy

08-09-2008, 12:26 PM

What he is saying makes no sense what so ever.
....but maybe thats because its out of context

Or maybe it's a joke put together for YTMND...:happy:

MisterSmith

08-09-2008, 12:35 PM

What he is saying makes no sense what so ever.
....but maybe thats because its out of context

The real quote in the comic is "...All the whores and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!'... and I'll look down, and whisper 'No'"

Obviously they made the quote a little nicer for the movie, substituting "the world" for "whores and politicians."

Here is the full quote from the book: Issue 1, page 1, panel 3 (see below).

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/705/watchmen0101arn8.jpg

***Sorry; I create a new, smaller image.

Foster

08-09-2008, 12:45 PM

The real quote in the comic is "...All the whores and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!'... and I'll look down, and whisper 'No'"

Obviously they made the quote a little nicer for the movie, substituting "the world" for "whores and politicians."

Here is the actual page and quote: Issue 1, page 1, panel 3 (see below).

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9121/watchmen0101bi7.jpg

***Sorry, had to create a new image link.

:wallbash:
I give up

CofyCrakCocaine

08-09-2008, 05:13 PM

I've never read this newfangled Watchman comic you darn kids keep talking about. Is it any good? Does it have good old fashioned family values? I picked it up one day then put it back down because I didn't have a $20 on me that day. So I went and got me a $20 and picked it back up. Whippersnappers, etc.

All BS aside, I just started reading it a week ago. The trailer for this movie got me interested. I'm loving what I'm reading so far.

By the way, if you're up to chapter IV and you haven't picked up yet that Nixon is still president, does that mean you really really suck at reading? Or is it just me?

From what I've read so far, it seems that Veidt guy is the most wholesome of the lot.

Tenbatsuzen

08-09-2008, 05:21 PM

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/236/comlaurie1oi6.jpg

spadanko

08-19-2008, 12:16 PM

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/va/20080818/121911997700.html

Don Stugots

08-19-2008, 12:44 PM

well, the trailer looked cool.

MIKEYDAKEN

08-19-2008, 01:13 PM

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/236/comlaurie1oi6.jpg

best pic ever:lol:

cougarjake13

08-19-2008, 06:09 PM

well, the trailer looked cool.

love that russian supes sig there don

MIKEYDAKEN

08-19-2008, 07:28 PM

TheMojoPin

08-19-2008, 10:06 PM

sad to hear on aots today that fox is filed suit to kill the movie. i'm just lazy so no links but from what i heard fox does not want any money they just want it dead. the fox boycott if only if it's just me will be on if this happens

Ridiculous.

It's all about money and getting cut into the action.

Nothing is actually getting "killed" or shelved. This is just a studio playing hardball trying to get as much money out of a project they think they still have some right to and is clearly going to be huge.

badorties

08-20-2008, 06:10 AM

sad to hear on aots today that fox is filed suit to kill the movie. i'm just lazy so no links but from what i heard fox does not want any money they just want it dead. the fox boycott if only if it's just me will be on if this happens

Fox Is Allowed to Press Warner Over Rights to ‘Watchmen’
LOS ANGELES — The dark and damaged superheroes of Warner Brothers’ “Watchmen,” set for release next March, have a new problem on their hands: a federal judge here ruled last week that they may belong to 20th Century Fox.

The judge, Gary A. Feess of United States District Court for the Central District of California, denied a request by Warner last Wednesday to dismiss Fox’s infringement claims.

In the suit, Fox said Warner had infringed its copyrights and interfered with contracts by filming the movie in spite of earlier agreements under which Fox acquired rights to the graphic novel on which it is based.
(http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/19/business/media/19movie.html?_r=3&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin)

some cool news:

Speaking at the British Film Institute, Gibbons hinted at plans for the movie's second planned DVD release:
Dave has seen a 2 hour, 45 minute rough assembly of the – in his words – “very sexy, very violent” movie which he expects will receive an 18 certificate from the British censor. There’s no Black Freighter animation, that will be released as a separate ‘Animatrix’ style DVD and probably (eventually) be remarried with the live action film in a future ‘Absolute Watchmen’ DVD release.

08-21-2008, 12:48 PM

I found this cool.

http://rss.warnerbros.com/watchmen/2008/08/a_mysterious_discovery_in_new.html

10-15-2008, 11:23 AM

so, who lives in Portland ?

Watchmen: Test Screening in Portland (http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp/aid/9493/tcid/1)

MisterSmith

10-15-2008, 11:36 AM

so, who lives in Portland ?

Watchmen: Test Screening in Portland (http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp/aid/9493/tcid/1)

I think Badinia is in Portland. Maybe we should PM her. I don't know if she would be into the movie or not, but it's worth a shot.

Badinia

10-15-2008, 03:00 PM

Hilarious. I'll seriously consider standing around outside Lloyd Center tomorrow if it's not rainy out...I haven't seen a free screener there since the agony and the ecstasy that was the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy!

biozombie

10-15-2008, 04:34 PM

wow.
http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Watchmen/watchmen_movie_image_malin_akerman_as_silk_spectre _ii_and_patrick_wilson_as_nite_owl_l.jpg

ChimneyFish

10-15-2008, 04:46 PM

wow.
http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Watchmen/watchmen_movie_image_malin_akerman_as_silk_spectre _ii_and_patrick_wilson_as_nite_owl_l.jpg

I'm getting a funny feeling in my pants.

I don't see how this can work as a movie, but God love 'em for trying.

Don Stugots

10-15-2008, 04:53 PM

Last month I re-read the GN and I thought the same thing.

ChimneyFish

10-15-2008, 05:15 PM

Last month I re-read the GN and I thought the same thing.

Gn????

Don Stugots

10-15-2008, 05:17 PM

Gn????

graphic novel? oh crap, it is a trade paper back, sorry.

ChimneyFish

10-15-2008, 05:23 PM

graphic novel? oh crap, it is a trade paper back, sorry.

I don't know how I couldn't get "graphic novel" out of "gn".:laugh:
Wow.

I just got done reading it for the first time.
The story is just too deep, I think, to really be put to film in a way that's really going to do it justice.

mikeyboy

10-15-2008, 05:25 PM

I don't know how I couldn't get "graphic novel" out of "
gn".:laugh:
Wow.

I just got done reading it for the first time.
The story is just too deep, I think, to really be put to film in a way that's really going to do it justice.

I just read it for the first time as well. I have my doubts that it will work, but I am interested in the results.

ChimneyFish

10-15-2008, 05:40 PM

Don't get me wrong, I'm very interested to see how it's put together.
I just can't see it being done.
Then again, I'm not a screen writer or a director.

There's so much information packed into the between chapter segments, and while it isn't all of the utmost importance, it all matters on some level.

On a different note, book sales for this thing in the past year must be fantastic.

Badinia

10-16-2008, 01:29 PM

I've been looking at rumors about this screening on the computer, and ran across this headline:

CONFIRMED: Dr. Manhattan's Penis is in the Watchmen Movie!

Why doesn't someone stop this crazy carousel planet? I wanna get off.

Badinia

10-16-2008, 06:53 PM

OK, continuing this branch of the thread that I am in by myself- the screening in Portland was stocked with people who a) paid to see a movie on Sunday and received a potential movie pass, b) took a survey on the internet, and c) printed their survey results indicating that they were non-nerdy people between 18 and 25. No Watchmen for me. :glurps:

Don Stugots

10-16-2008, 07:04 PM

Boooooo

KennethC

10-16-2008, 09:12 PM

Badinia

10-16-2008, 10:01 PM

I would have gone, if only to yell out "looks like you need a watch, men!"

You wouldn't gad about so casually if you had seen Dr. Manhattan's penis.

DiabloSammich

10-17-2008, 03:51 AM

Badinia, you should go to the screening anyway wearing a fake moustache and top hat, and tell them you are Sir Reginald Pinkbottom the Archduke of Canterbury, and you demand satisfaction.

I can't tell you how many times that's worked for me.

KingGeno

10-21-2008, 11:18 AM

Well, my friends and fellow Watchmen fans. The movie has been screened and a lot of people are mixed on this NEW ENDING that they have in place.

NOTE: Do NOT read the following article if you haven't read the book

http://www.cinematical.com/2008/10/20/the-bleak-ending-of-watchmen-changed/

This may or may not be an alternate ending that they wanna show to test crowd reaction, but with the REMOVAL of the Squid and emotional scenes closing out certain characters, I am not liking this new ending at all. I can understand them saying that some stuff needs to be changed, in order for it to be not gay, but respect the source material. The monster attacking in Cloverfield worked, so why not here?

AnnoyedGrunt

10-21-2008, 01:07 PM

I'd wager that the ending is the same simply because Snyder has been saying that Alan Moore will love the film if only he gave it a chance. I could see changing the alien squid to something else since it might not fit with the rest of the redesigns of the characters. However, Alan Moore would throw a shit fit over Ozymandias and Dr Manhattan working together.

Don Stugots

10-21-2008, 01:14 PM

BULLSHIT! why would it need to be changed? the ended was fine the way it was.

realmenhatelife

10-21-2008, 01:26 PM

My brother works in a comic book store and watchmen sales have indeed been apeshit.

From what I read about the new ending it doesn't change the intent or final action, but seriously why would you change it? You're already dealing with people who are sticklers for accuracy, not to mention probably the most celebrated and canonized work of this genre. These assholes are going to kill Alan Moore.

ChimneyFish

10-21-2008, 01:26 PM

BULLSHIT! why would it need to be changed? the ended was fine the way it was.

Agreed.

I don't know how you change the ending of that, and actually think that it's going to be "good".

Doctor Manhattan

10-21-2008, 01:44 PM

These assholes are going to kill Alan Moore.

I don't think it matters in his eyes. He does not want his work adapted.

KingGeno

10-21-2008, 02:39 PM

They also made it an international incident, not localized on New York. The scenes where the squid is destroying everything, and the newspaper man and comic book reader embrace each other shows great emotion. Strangers that really aren't strangers comforting eachother. That is cut out also. THIS is what pisses me off, and pisses on Alan's way of showing that emotion.

biozombie

10-21-2008, 02:56 PM

I hope this movie doesn't become a sanitized pile of shit like most of the other Alan Moore movie adaptations. In the trailer, they changed Rorschach's line about the "whores and politicians" to "the people" or whatever it was, maybe it's just for the trailer, but if they remove all of the really antisocial shit (like was done in most of the other movie adaptations), it's going to lose a certain amount of meaning. (then again, i just watched V for Vendetta then read the comic book...I liked the movie until I read the comic)

AnnoyedGrunt

10-21-2008, 04:23 PM

Plus, how would this new ending even work? It sounds like Ozy sets off bombs all over the world and framing Dr Manhattan. I guess the world is supposed to unite against him instead of the aliens. But wouldn't Russisa immediate think "Hey, the blue, naked American superman is attacking!" and retaliate right away?

Drunky McBetidont

10-21-2008, 04:40 PM

blue, naked, and sad. so very sad.

KingGeno

10-22-2008, 05:57 AM

Holy Moly! new Spike TV Awards footage :ohmy: SPOILERS! BEWARE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GUmgQHvqqc can't embed.

realmenhatelife

10-22-2008, 08:15 AM

I don't think it matters in his eyes. He does not want his work adapted.

I know and I'm on his side in that respect, but I think he cares. When Snyder said that maybe, some day, Moore would pop a copy of the Watchmen into his DVD player and not hate it Moores response was not "Wait, they're making that?" it was "Mate, it will never fucking happen."

He strikes me as the type that wants to know when he has the right to be outraged.

KingGeno

10-22-2008, 08:20 AM

One of his biggest complaints about Zac Snyder was the use of slomo in his films. Watch the video posted above, and it seems like the whole movie is in slomo. That better be just for the trailer. All slomo will piss me off.

AnnoyedGrunt

10-22-2008, 12:41 PM

Holy Moly! new Spike TV Awards footage :ohmy: SPOILERS! BEWARE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GUmgQHvqqc can't embed.

Can anyone tell me what scene that's supposed to be at 0:22?

Don Stugots

10-22-2008, 01:01 PM

it looks great.

TheMojoPin

10-22-2008, 01:43 PM

I know and I'm on his side in that respect, but I think he cares. When Snyder said that maybe, some day, Moore would pop a copy of the Watchmen into his DVD player and not hate it Moores response was not "Wait, they're making that?" it was "Mate, it will never fucking happen."

He strikes me as the type that wants to know when he has the right to be outraged.

Nah, Moore really wants no part in adaptations of his work. He's stated that when he wrote them it was the intention of telling those stories through the medium of comics and not anything else. He doesn't want anything to do with the films because he's already told the story he wanted to tell.

I think it's pretty cool that doesn't take any money from the films and gives it all to the artists that worked with him.

biozombie

10-22-2008, 03:46 PM

Can anyone tell me what scene that's supposed to be at 0:22?

Dr. Manhattan & Silk Spectre II teleportation?

AnnoyedGrunt

10-22-2008, 03:57 PM

Nah, Moore really wants no part in adaptations of his work. He's stated that when he wrote them it was the intention of telling those stories through the medium of comics and not anything else. He doesn't want anything to do with the films because he's already told the story he wanted to tell.

I think it's pretty cool that doesn't take any money from the films and gives it all to the artists that worked with him.

He also wants nothing to do with them because of LXG. Not only was it a shit movie, there was a lawsuit by a screen writer who claimed that Fox stole his idea and hired Moore to write comic so they could then make a movie out of it. Rather than go through that hassle again he wants nothing to do with them.

KingGeno

11-06-2008, 06:38 AM

<a href="http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=45930866">Watchmen Exclusive: Girls Kick Ass</a> <object width="425px" height="360px" ><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"/><param name="movie" value="http://mediaservices.myspace.com/services/media/embed.aspx/m=45930866,t=1,mt=video"/><embed src="http://mediaservices.myspace.com/services/media/embed.aspx/m=45930866,t=1,mt=video" width="425" height="360" allowFullScreen="true" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed></object>

Doctor Manhattan

11-06-2008, 08:33 AM

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4282/drmanhatsuitwy6.jpg

That's the suit that will be replaced by the CGI Dr. Manhattan? Boy I bet he felt silly acting in that thing...

badorties

11-06-2008, 08:39 AM

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4282/drmanhatsuitwy6.jpg

That's the suit that will be replaced by the CGI Dr. Manhattan? Boy I bet he felt silly acting in that thing...

as opposed to being dressed as a owl ...?

mikeyboy

11-06-2008, 08:41 AM

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4282/drmanhatsuitwy6.jpg

That's the suit that will be replaced by the CGI Dr. Manhattan? Boy I bet he felt silly acting in that thing...

Who knew Dr. Manhattan was really Tron?

hammersavage

11-06-2008, 08:57 AM

http://www.geekitude.com/Pictures/Linucon2004/Ex45TronUpCloseRot.jpg

Looks Hi-tech close up.

KingGeno

11-06-2008, 09:09 AM

Thought of tron guy too when I saw it.

I can't wait for this movie (in theatre and Ultimate DVD).

Doctor Manhattan

11-06-2008, 10:16 AM

as opposed to being dressed as a owl ...?

Well, most of his face is covered while Tron/Manhattan has to look people in the eye. But I'm sure that's nothing for most actors.

KingGeno

11-11-2008, 05:48 AM

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4909/charactercomedianig7.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2684/characterspectreov6.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1333/characterrorschachhh6.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4182/characterozymandiasra3.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/5002/characterniteowlvy4.png
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/640/charactermanhattanxv4.jpg

KingGeno

11-13-2008, 03:54 PM

NEW WATCHMEN TRAILER
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/watchmen.html?showVideo=1

<object width="400" height="327" id="uvp_fop"><param name="movie" value="http://l.yimg.com/cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/fop/embedflv/swf/fop.swf"></param><param name="flashVars" value="id=10658091&rd=eyc-off&ympsc=&postpanelEnable=1&prepanelEnable=1&infopanelEnable=1&carouselEnable=0"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed width="400" height="327" id="uvp_fop" allowscriptaccess="always" src="http://l.yimg.com/cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/fop/embedflv/swf/fop.swf" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" flashvars="id=10658091&rd=eyc-off&ympsc=&prepanelEnable=1&infopanelEnable=1"></embed></object>

KingGeno

11-13-2008, 04:03 PM

Direct HD links.

HD Theatrical Trailer

480p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=75031206)

720p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=75031207)

1080p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sdm=web&pt=rd&sid=75031208)

KingGeno

11-13-2008, 04:04 PM

Interesting music, no squid, and I always pictures Manhattan's voice being more ominous and deep/god like. Hmm. Likee though.

DiabloSammich

11-13-2008, 04:04 PM

Me likey.

badorties

11-13-2008, 04:17 PM

Me likey.

yep, damn good trailer

biozombie

11-13-2008, 04:25 PM

Even if it stinks, at least Silk Specter II has a fantastic ass & Kelly Leak most likely got a sweet paycheck....

I just realized the closest Imax theater to me is about 400 miles :(

HBox

11-13-2008, 04:34 PM

Even if it stinks, at least Silk Specter II has a fantastic ass & Kelly Leak most likely got a sweet paycheck....

I just realized the closest Imax theater to me is about 400 miles :(

Really? You'd probably be closer to one in Old Mexico.

biozombie

11-13-2008, 04:39 PM

heh, I wouldn't be surprised. If it ends up being a big hit movie, I'll catch the Imax version over the summer back on the east coast...anywhere but that awful Franklin Institute, that place is the worst.

HBox

11-13-2008, 04:39 PM

I just got half way through that trailer. DO THEY HAVE TO SPOIL EVERY MOTHERFUCKING THING IN THE FUCKING TRAILER!

cougarjake13

11-13-2008, 04:46 PM

Even if it stinks, at least Silk Specter II has a fantastic ass & Kelly Leak most likely got a sweet paycheck....

I just realized the closest Imax theater to me is about 400 miles :(

the dude from bad news bears ???

biozombie

11-13-2008, 04:50 PM

the dude from bad news bears ???

Jackie Earle Haley is Rorschach, how great is that? The only thing that could make me happier is if Tanner Boyle was Night Owl II.

GreatAmericanZero

11-13-2008, 04:52 PM

I just got half way through that trailer. DO THEY HAVE TO SPOIL EVERY MOTHERFUCKING THING IN THE FUCKING TRAILER!

i read the graphic novel..i know whats going to happen

anyway it looks just like the graphic novel...exactly. can't wait!

HBox

11-13-2008, 04:53 PM

"Hey, my name is Rorschach and I'm Batman. My name is Batman and I'm Rorschach."

cogsdoc

11-13-2008, 06:40 PM

love the Muse song in the trailer

badorties

11-13-2008, 07:34 PM

"Hey, my name is Rorschach and I'm Batman. My name is Batman and I'm Rorschach."

yeah, i picked up on that ... but at least rorschach is behind a mask

Dirtbag

11-13-2008, 09:24 PM

Rorschach isn't nearly as bad as Bale's Batman. Especially since he won't be doing nearly as much yelling.

And they're only spoilers if you've read the comic, in which case they're not really spoilers anyway. If you've never read the comic you're pretty clueless. I know I was when I first saw it before the Dark Knight.

Doctor Manhattan

11-14-2008, 08:34 AM

Holy Shit this looks like it will be a great movie.

So now I'm ready to be disappointed in March...

And yes, I thought Dr. Manhattan's voice would be different. Something like they did on those motion comics on iTunes.

TheMojoPin

11-14-2008, 08:55 AM

I always assumed Dr. Manhattan sounded like a normal dude, just more monotone.

I'm already sick of the all the goddamn slo-mo. You wouldn't be having as much trouble gettin more of the film cut if you didn't waste minutes slowing shit down unecessarily, Zachy-boy.

Besides that, everything looks great except...

...for the clips that looks like confirmation of the change to the climax. Unless I'm blanking on a scene from the book, the clip of the blue energy wave damaging what looks like New York presumably would be the reported ending that Ozymandias somehow "uses" Dr. Manhattan to cause the disaster that brings the world back from the brink of nuclear war.

This COULD work, but the way it supposedly goes down makes no sense. A lot of rumors/reports hae been that Ozy uses Doc to cause attacks on cities around the world, not just New York. Isn't that the last thing you want to do when countires are this close to letting the missiles fly? Secondly, the whole point of the alien hoax in the book was to create a menace so obviously "different" from us and horrifying that it makes the world forget it's rivalries and enemies and come together. Using a being that is a symbol of US imperial capabilities doesn't seem like the best idea in calming countires with nuclear abilities, and even if Ozy somehow "hides" that it's Doc's powers, it's still basically random explosions...odds are that would case countires to paic and fire their missiles thinking they were under attack. The "alien" was so obviously not something from another country that it horrified the world into stepping down. There was physical damage at ground zero where it was "beamed" in, but most of the death was caused by the "psychic pulse" it send out, frying people's brains around NYC.

I dunno, maybe the clip is the alien being beamd in and they "pumped" it up abi, but the reported changes to the climax just don't make a whole lot of sense in terms of what Ozy's goals are.

KingGeno

11-14-2008, 08:59 AM

You are correct, Mojo.

My feeling on it is:

By making it look like Manhattan, an American, as the attacker of the world you take away a lot of what ozy was talking about. He wanted a world that would be united against an outside or alien force. Now it gets a little to international with the ending. i don't like it, but what can ya do?

TheMojoPin

11-14-2008, 08:09 PM

EW interviews Alan Moore. (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20213004,00.html)

Love the slam of Frank Miller.

SP1!

11-14-2008, 08:25 PM

here's the current cast:

Malin Akerman (upcoming The Heartbreak Kid) as Laurie Juspeczyk aka Silk Spectre
Billy Crudup (The Good Shepherd) as Jon Osterman, aka Dr. Manhattan
Matthew Goode (Match Point) as Adrian Veidt, aka Ozymandias
Jackie Earle Haley (Little Children) as Walter Kovacs, aka Rorschach
Jeffrey Dean Morgan (TV’s Grey’s Anatomy) as Edward Blake, aka the Comedian
Patrick Wilson (Little Children) as Dan Dreiberg, aka Nite Owl
I didnt read all 10 pages of this thread and I dont know if anyone else caught this name but:

Kelly? Mother fucking Kelly Leak from the bad news bears? The last film I remember him in was him being a pervert and jerking off on the first date in the girls car. Weird casting choice I guess.

Not up on the series but it may be ok.

joeyballsack

11-14-2008, 10:49 PM

EW interviews Alan Moore. (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20213004,00.html)

Love the slam of Frank Miller.

Alan Moore loves The Wire.

Fuck an Emmy..I would rather get an Alan Moore endorsement.

cougarjake13

11-15-2008, 09:41 AM

I didnt read all 10 pages of this thread and I dont know if anyone else caught this name but:

Kelly? Mother fucking Kelly Leak from the bad news bears? The last film I remember him in was him being a pervert and jerking off on the first date in the girls car. Weird casting choice I guess.

Not up on the series but it may be ok.

i did yesterday i didnt realize it was real

GreatAmericanZero

11-15-2008, 02:13 PM

if you remember in the novel, Rorschach was a goofy looking motherfucker when they took the mask off him. He looked kinda like Eastside Dave

drjoek

11-15-2008, 02:18 PM

if you remember in the novel, Rorschach was a goofy looking motherfucker when they took the mask off him. He looked kinda like Eastside Dave

Miss Gvac
:glurps:

TheMojoPin

11-15-2008, 02:38 PM

if you remember in the novel, Rorschach was a goofy looking motherfucker when they took the mask off him. He looked kinda like Eastside Dave

It's basically Dave's autobiography. This is Dave trying to get home every night:

http://wtw.lowtion.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/watchmen-05-28.jpg

TheMojoPin

11-15-2008, 02:41 PM

I just got half way through that trailer. DO THEY HAVE TO SPOIL EVERY MOTHERFUCKING THING IN THE FUCKING TRAILER!

Seems like most of it is pretty random and meaningless for anyone who hasn't read the book. The Comedian's murder is something that happens right at the beginning of the book, and presumably the film, too, and that's the only thing really "spoiled."

biozombie

11-15-2008, 02:46 PM

mikeyboy

11-15-2008, 02:48 PM

biozombie

11-15-2008, 02:52 PM

The only problem I see is that isn't Jackie Earl Haley like 5'3"? It makes it a little harder to believe that he's able to beat the piss out of criminals on his own.

Smoking stunted his growth :(

joeyballsack

11-15-2008, 03:05 PM

Kelly Leak is from Van Nuys, he was born to drive...

by the way, anyone check out his little picture on imdb? he's a creepy looking motherfucker. I hope he isn't bald-headed as Walter Kovacs.

I thought he would be perfect for Spider Jerusalum role in Transmetropolitan when I saw it.

TheMojoPin

11-15-2008, 03:07 PM

The only problem I see is that isn't Jackie Earl Haley like 5'3"? It makes it a little harder to believe that he's able to beat the piss out of criminals on his own.

edit: I checked. He's 5'5" (http://www.celebheights.com/s/Jackie-Earle-Haley-4697.html). Not so intimidating.

Rorschach isn't that big. He wears lifts in his shoes when in costume to appear taller than he is. Besides, forced perspective is a beautiful thing, especially given most of Hollywood is filled with midgets.

biozombie

11-15-2008, 03:12 PM

not sure if i need the spoiler tags, but the beauty of Rorschach is his brutality followed by the big reveal of a less than impressive freckly dork who almost looks like a teenager.

GreatAmericanZero

11-15-2008, 04:50 PM

The only problem I see is that isn't Jackie Earl Haley like 5'3"? It makes it a little harder to believe that he's able to beat the piss out of criminals on his own.

edit: I checked. He's 5'5" (http://www.celebheights.com/s/Jackie-Earle-Haley-4697.html). Not so intimidating.

wow that is a short man...but Ian McKellan wasn't really 8' tall and Frodo wasn't really 3' tall...movie magic can make wonders!

11-17-2008, 09:36 AM

has anyone posted this?
Watchmen movie trailer #3 (http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/11/13/watchmen-movie-trailer-3-what-do-you-think/)

cougarjake13

11-17-2008, 09:54 AM

has anyone posted this?
Watchmen movie trailer #3 (http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/11/13/watchmen-movie-trailer-3-what-do-you-think/)

i have now

thanks

KingGeno

11-17-2008, 09:58 AM

has anyone posted this?

i have now
thanks

Well? What did both of you think?