MLB Offseason Discussion...HOT STOVE, SSSSSSSSS!!!

[A.J.]

I don't understand the propaganda and gibberish coming out of that communist place that Boston is. Manny seems to be like a lovable down to earth, cuddly teddy bear.

Sure...when he's not in agonizing pain and has to sit out of important games.

I'm glad to see that "sore knee" healed for him.

[cougarjake13]

i wanna fuck erin andrews so bad, she gets me all excited when she talks sports


that is all

[Knowledged_one]

Chad Bradford goes from Bmore to teh Rays

[TeeBone]

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:rkuINxfRJcgVZM:http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/7/74/150px-Tb-rays-3rdlogo.jpg

[Towelie]

Adam Dunn to Arizona for 3 prospects

[Knowledged_one]

Adam Dunn to Arizona for 3 prospects

SOurce?

[Towelie]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3529966

[cougarjake13]

watching the dodgers-phillies game on espn


i thought i saw an article that said that manny was gonna change his number from 99 to 30 but he still has 99, obviously he didnt change, wonder why

[cougarjake13]

maddux a dodger again


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3541723

[hexy68]

maddux a dodger again


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3541723

i thought the trade deadline passed last month? How are teams still able to make trades now? :help: ...i thought players had to pass through waivers...did Maddux?

[TheMojoPin]

i thought the trade deadline passed last month? How are teams still able to make trades now? :help: ...i thought players had to pass through waivers...did Maddux?

How else would he have been moved at this point? Magic?

[hexy68]

How else would he have been moved at this point? Magic?

none of the stories i read said he passed through waivers...if he did i just assumed other teams would have been interested in picking him up

[TheMojoPin]

But how else would he have been moved at this point?

[JimBeam]

My understanding of waivers is that a team can pick him up, before the team wanting him, but then that team would be stuck w/ him and not many teams would want him right now.

I guess a team could take him to block the trade but then they'd have to take his salary and 60 MPH fastball.

I think only Arizona would really have an issue w/ this trade and it's possible that they wouldn't get a chance to claim him before the Dodgers.

Not sure if that's the case.

[hexy68]

thanks for the info Jim! :thumbup:

[cougarjake13]

plus maddux has openly stated that he only wants to play for west coast teams


which pretty much limits him to the padres (where he was), dodgers, giants, A's, angels, and i guess if he wanted to go up there, the mariners

[Meve]

MLB, umps agree on instant replay (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/08/20/instant.replay.ap/index.html)

This is a Sad day for baseball. :sad:

[midwestjeff]

I don't like it, but I guess I'll get used to it.

[Towelie]

Cliff Lee is pretty good.

[Knowledged_one]

I don't like it, but I guess I'll get used to it.

on the dreadful mike and mike today the little leprechaun tim kurkjian said there have only been 16 instances in close to 1500 games this year, its not that common of an occurrence

[Towelie]

on the dreadful mike and mike today the little leprechaun tim kurkjian said there have only been 16 instances in close to 1500 games this year, its not that common of an occurrence

Thats gotta be incorrect.

If every team had two there would be 60.

I can think of two that happened to the Mets (Delgado hit the foul pole at Yankee Stadium and Beltran hit a HR that hit a bar along the seats in Fla. that was ruled a double)

[Knowledged_one]

i dont usually believe all of that but Kurkjian is usually pretty accurate and the info came from the league

[underdog]

This is a Sad day for baseball. :sad:

Seriously. Now they'll get home run calls correct. That's awful.

[brettmojo]

MLB, umps agree on instant replay (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/08/20/instant.replay.ap/index.html)

This is a Sad day for baseball. :sad:
Gay...

Can they stop fucking with all the sports please? First the NFL turned into the No Fun League, Hockey got pussified, Nascar sold out to Toyota... And now this.

[cougarjake13]

Gay...

Can they stop fucking with all the sports please? First the NFL turned into the No Fun League, Hockey got pussified, Nascar sold out to Toyota... And now this.



so true, sad, but true

[underdog]

Gay...

Can they stop fucking with all the sports please? First the NFL turned into the No Fun League, Hockey got pussified, Nascar sold out to Toyota... And now this.

What?

How does the MLB getting home run calls correct correlate at all to any of the examples you've provided?

[JimmieHats]

K-Rod has 50 saves. 50. Is that a testament to how great he is as a closer, or does it show how the Angels can't put their opponents away soundly? It's still impressive as hell...

[Da Fish]

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:rkuINxfRJcgVZM:http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/7/74/150px-Tb-rays-3rdlogo.jpg

:clap:

Good for the Rays. I hope they are able to keep their lead in the East.

[ChrisTheCop]

:clap:

Good for the Rays. I hope they are able to keep their lead in the East.

You are no longer welcome here.

[Da Fish]

You are no longer welcome here.

Sorry, Florida Teams FTW:devil2:

[K.C.]

I'm ready to make some early projections...don't hold me to it...just my intial impression.

*-denotes Wild Card

AL East
1. Yankees
2. Red Sox
3. Blue Jays
4. Devil Rays
5. Orioles

AL Central
1. Tigers
2. Indians*
3. White Sox
4. Twins
5. Royals

AL West
1. Mariners
2. Angels
3. Athletics
4. Rangers

NL East
I'll come back with this one in a little bit. There's something I'm still mulling over in regards to the Phillies, Mets, and Braves...namely how I think the Braves will figure into this.

NL Central
1. Cubs
2. Astros
3. Brewers
4. Reds
5. Cardinals
6. Pirates

NL West
1. Rockies
2. Dodgers*
3. Padres
4. Diamondbacks
5. Giants


NL East and NL West will be the most competitive divisions in baseball.



Yikes...talk about shitting the bed on predictions.

The Mariners are the worst team in baseball.

In my defense, I don't know anyone that had the Rays in the AL East, or anyone other than the Tigers or Indians in the AL Central at the beginning of this season.

[Da Fish]

Yikes...talk about shitting the bed on predictions.

The Mariners are the worst team in baseball.

In my defense, I don't know anyone that had the Rays in the AL East, or anyone other than the Tigers or Indians in the AL Central at the beginning of this season.

Thats one reason why baseball is so great. Every season is going to have success stories, surprises, and great story lines.

[cougarjake13]

Thats one reason why baseball is so great. Every season is going to have success stories, surprises, and great story lines.



hells to the yeah

[A.J.]

I watched the BoSox-ChiSox game on WGN last night and never realized how awful the White Sox' announcers are. What's with all this "us" and "we" shit? Stop it.

[epo]

I watched the BoSox-ChiSox game on WGN last night and never realized how awful the White Sox' announcers are. What's with all this "us" and "we" shit? Stop it.

I believe the team is Ken Harrelson & Darrin Jackson? Here's the irony...they were worse when it was Harrelson & Tom Paciorek.

Let that sink in for a minute or two.

[cougarjake13]

I watched the BoSox-ChiSox game on WGN last night and never realized how awful the White Sox' announcers are. What's with all this "us" and "we" shit? Stop it.

I believe the team is Ken Harrelson & Darrin Jackson? Here's the irony...they were worse when it was Harrelson & Tom Paciorek.

Let that sink in for a minute or two.




you can put it on the boooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd dddddddd


yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[A.J.]

I believe the team is Ken Harrelson & Darrin Jackson? Here's the irony...they were worse when it was Harrelson & Tom Paciorek.

Let that sink in for a minute or two.

That was The Hawk???? Former Red Sox player and TV38 commentator??????

[Kevin]

I watched the BoSox-ChiSox game on WGN last night and never realized how awful the White Sox' announcers are. What's with all this "us" and "we" shit? Stop it.

KO Is still recovering from his aneurysm after watching that.

GET WELL SOON!

[razorboy]

That was The Hawk???? Former Red Sox player and TV38 commentator??????

Hawk Harrelson is the single worst play-by-play in broadcast history. Simply unlistenable.

[spadanko]

600 People at Marlins/Braves game

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=280903128

[Knowledged_one]

I watched the BoSox-ChiSox game on WGN last night and never realized how awful the White Sox' announcers are. What's with all this "us" and "we" shit? Stop it.

I wont even go into my tirade on this one, my #1 pet peeve is the "we" and "us" usage by people not on the team

[Knowledged_one]

KO Is still recovering from his aneurysm after watching that.

GET WELL SOON!

I just go to my happy place when this happens

[TheMojoPin]

Hawk Harrelson is the single worst play-by-play in broadcast history. Simply unlistenable.

So true.

The baffling things is, almost all of the White Sox fans I ask about him hate him, too. I have no idea why he still has a job with them.

[Towelie]

If anyone just saw the slide Milledge put on Utley that is the way you're suppose to play ball.

The go ahead run on third and the 2nd baseman wants to hold the bag for the double play? Fucking destroy him.

[cougarjake13]

600 People at Marlins/Braves game

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=280903128

at least the rays are outdrawing someone

[Da Fish]

600 People at Marlins/Braves game

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=280903128

Well those two teams are out of the playoff race.

[jauble]

I wont even go into my tirade on this one, my #1 pet peeve is the "we" and "us" usage by people not on the team

This is why I love ron santo as the wgn cubs homer brodcaster...he can say we. Plus he just gets so excited and becomes a fan.

[Towelie]

Hurting for attendance, Nats decide to lower some ticket prices

Associated Press

Updated: September 4, 2008, 2:33 PM ET

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WASHINGTON -- The Washington Nationals, who rank in the bottom half of Major League Baseball in attendance despite a new ballpark, are lowering some of their season-ticket prices for next season.

Prices will go down for 7,500 seats in the 41,888-seat Nationals Park, mostly in the outfield sections. Seats in most of the discounted sections will cost $5 to $10 less per game, lowering the stadium's average season-ticket price for a non-premium seat to approximately $29.

The team opted not to lower the prices of the expensive seats behind home plate, where sparse attendance has sometimes created an embarrassing image on television. Those tickets sell for as much as $400 per game.

The Nationals, in last place in the NL East, are averaging 29,509 fans per game, 18th in the majors and well below the National League-average of 34,204 following Wednesday's games.

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press

Embarrassing.

They should have never moved that franchise there.

[cougarjake13]

sadly for any team not in major cities with long time histories with a franchise all seem to struggle

[Towelie]

sadly for any team not in major cities with long time histories with a franchise all seem to struggle

Yeah but the MLB had already failed there twice in the past.

The other cities that made bids made much more sense:

Las Vegas; Norfolk, Va.; Monterrey, Mexico; Portland, Ore.; and Northern Virginia

I don't think we'll ever see a pro-franchise in Vegas, but I think Norfolk or Portland could have done much better

[cougarjake13]

Yeah but the MLB had already failed there twice in the past.

The other cities that made bids made much more sense:

Las Vegas; Norfolk, Va.; Monterrey, Mexico; Portland, Ore.; and Northern Virginia

I don't think we'll ever see a pro-franchise in Vegas, but I think Norfolk or Portland could have done much better



yeh vegas or prob anywhere in nevada is out

hows the attendance at trail blazer games ??

and it rains too much so they better put a dome on the m-effer like seattle had with the kingdome, not sure if safeco has a dome or retractable

[cougarjake13]

would norfolk or northern virgina be any better than dc ??


i dont know what the population size is there, and whether or not the city is big enough to carry a franchise

[Towelie]

yeh vegas or prob anywhere in nevada is out

hows the attendance at trail blazer games ??

and it rains too much so they better put a dome on the m-effer like seattle had with the kingdome, not sure if safeco has a dome or retractable

Portland draws well when they were winning.

Safeco is retractable. I can't find the total number of games they have played with the roof closed though

would norfolk or northern virgina be any better than dc ??


i dont know what the population size is there, and whether or not the city is big enough to carry a franchise

2007 Population:
DC-588,292 (27th)
Portland-568,380 (30th)
Norfolk-235,747 (79th)

But you have to realize that that the Orioles are 39 miles away from the Nationals, the Phillies are 100 miles and the Mets and Yankees are about 200 miles away whereas if Norfolk got a team the Orioles would be 250 miles away and the Braves would be 500 miles away

In Portland you only have the Mariners who are 175 miles away and the Giants and A's are 640 miles away.

Its more of a case of geography then population.

[razorboy]

So true.

The baffling things is, almost all of the White Sox fans I ask about him hate him, too. I have no idea why he still has a job with them.

Photos of a Reinsdorf, Einhorn, Ken Williams three-way, perhaps?

[cougarjake13]

Portland draws well when they were winning.

Safeco is retractable. I can't find the total number of games they have played with the roof closed though



2007 Population:
DC-588,292 (27th)
Portland-568,380 (30th)
Norfolk-235,747 (79th)

But you have to realize that that the Orioles are 39 miles away from the Nationals, the Phillies are 100 miles and the Mets and Yankees are about 200 miles away whereas if Norfolk got a team the Orioles would be 250 miles away and the Braves would be 500 miles away

In Portland you only have the Mariners who are 175 miles away and the Giants and A's are 640 miles away.

Its more of a case of geography then population.



true but its the immdeiate area around the stadium that will go to the games

yeh you may have a fan base that stretches over state lines or into other cities but how many are going to go to a decent amount of games or buy season tix ??



like down here the rays are trying to market themselves towards gaining more fans in orlando and i think they will move the team closer to them by moving it to tampa

[Towelie]

true but its the immdeiate area around the stadium that will go to the games

yeh you may have a fan base that stretches over state lines or into other cities but how many are going to go to a decent amount of games or buy season tix ??



like down here the rays are trying to market themselves towards gaining more fans in orlando and i think they will move the team closer to them by moving it to tampa

Well Virginia Beach, Chesapeake, Hampton and Newport News all have fairly large populations and are very close to Norfolk.

The Rays new ballpark plan is set in St. Pete. They don't draw because A. they have sucked forever and B. the Trop is a disaster.

[cougarjake13]

Well Virginia Beach, Chesapeake, Hampton and Newport News all have fairly large populations and are very close to Norfolk.

The Rays new ballpark plan is set in St. Pete. They don't draw because A. they have sucked forever and B. the Trop is a disaster.

ill add C


theres nothing but old people and snowbirds in pinellas county, they dont care about baseball and dont really have the money to spend

hillsborough county where tampa is located has a more younger demographic while desposable income to spend on going to games, plus it'll be closer to orlando and pasco county, the county just north of hillsborough, it'd take close to 2 hrs for anyone in pasco to get to st pete but if you put it in tampa it'd be 30-45 minutes

[Towelie]

Carlos Quentin has a fractured right wrist and will undergo surgery Monday to insert a screw, the White Sox announced..
This seems nearly certain to cost him the rest of the regular season. Perhaps he'll make it back in October, but it's nothing the White Sox can count on. They'll go with Nick Swisher and Ken Griffey Jr. as their regular outfielders for the rest of the season. Brian Anderson and Jerry Owens will step in when someone needs a day off.

Thats going to hurt

[cougarjake13]

sorry white sawx fans

[epo]

Apparently MLB is thinking about moving the Cubs/Astros series to Miller Park. Link here. (http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2008/09/12/astros-cubs-coming-to-miller-park.aspx)

[cougarjake13]

Apparently MLB is thinking about moving the Cubs/Astros series to Miller Park. Link here. (http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2008/09/12/astros-cubs-coming-to-miller-park.aspx)



that;d be coool

[TheMojoPin]

Just do it already. Is there anyone more ineffectual than Selig? Everyone has been pointing out for a week how it would be incredibly unlikely for the Cubs/Astros series to b completed in Houston, if played at all. Selecting another park NOW is all well and good, but can all of the Astros even get out of Houston at this point to play the series?

[Towelie]

I'm just more shocked that this series is actually going to have serious playoff implications

Baseball is a funny, funny game

[Snoogans]

seriously? Tied for the playoffs, in a dogfight, and the Brewers just fired Ned Yost. Guess who replaces him for the year....


Dale SEND EM HOME Svuem

cant make this shit up

[Knowledged_one]

seriously? Tied for the playoffs, in a dogfight, and the Brewers just fired Ned Yost. Guess who replaces him for the year....


Dale SEND EM HOME Svuem

cant make this shit up

I heard they were sending in Zeke to finish this one up

[Towelie]

2 years in a row the Brewers fall apart.

Who would have thunk it looks like the NL East will push out two playoff teams

[epo]

seriously? Tied for the playoffs, in a dogfight, and the Brewers just fired Ned Yost. Guess who replaces him for the year....

Dale SEND EM HOME Svuem

cant make this shit up

I am so depressed.

[Snoogans]

I am so depressed.

dont worry, buddy. Ill go easy on you today. This really is terrible

[epo]

dont worry, buddy. Ill go easy on you today. This really is terrible

Brewers get swept by the damned Phillies.
Zambrano throws a no-hitter at our park.
Yost fired. Ted Simmons re-assigned.
Dale Sveum named manager.

:wallbash:

[Snoogans]

Brewers get swept by the damned Phillies.
Zambrano throws a no-hitter at our park.
Yost fired. Ted Simmons re-assigned.
Dale Sveum named manager.

:wallbash:

and stros are hitless through 5.1

[Snoogans]

6

[epo]

6

I wish Hippos would comment on this NO-HITTER.

[Snoogans]

I wish Hippos would comment on this NO-HITTER.

stay away hippos. Dont ruin a chance to see history. 2 straight no hitters

[epo]

stay away hippos. Dont ruin a chance to see history. 2 straight no hitters

Fuck that. What do you think Hippos? We WANT your opinion!

[K.C.]

Fuck that. What do you think Hippos? We WANT your opinion!

*Spyreport* *Spyreport*

Just talked to Hippos...he doesn't think back to back no hitters are possible.


Congrats, Cubs fans!

[epo]

*Spyreport* *Spyreport*

Just talked to Hippos...he doesn't think back to back no hitters are possible.

Congrats, Cubs fans!

An error? That was a single!

BULLSHIT! :wallbash:

[Snoogans]

Fuck that. What do you think Hippos? We WANT your opinion!

you know it doesnt work when people ask epo. DONT BREAK THE HIPPO.

HAHHAHA. GOOD CALL GIVING THE CUBS THAT ERROR

[epo]

you know it doesnt work when people ask epo. DONT BREAK THE HIPPO.

HAHHAHA. GOOD CALL GIVING THE CUBS THAT ERROR

Thank you former Brewer Mark Loretta!

[Snoogans]

booooooooooooooooooo

[Snoogans]

at least i dont have to watch this shit anymore

[Earlshog]

The Milwaukee Brewers have fired manager Ned Yost in the midst of a late-season slump that has jeopardized the team's chances of making the playoffs for the first time since 1982

[cougarjake13]

yost is toast !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (yost is toast !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[underdog]

Dale SEND EM HOME Svuem

I really hadn't read this before I posted in the Red Sox thread.

And look at the bright side, Epo; you'll have a LOT of exciting plays at the plate for the next couple of weeks.

[epo]

I really hadn't read this before I posted in the Red Sox thread.

And look at the bright side, Epo; you'll have a LOT of exciting plays at the plate for the next couple of weeks.

Probably less. He was coaching 3rd base all year.

[TheMojoPin]

epo, surely you can't still be defending Yost.

[Snoogans]

epo, surely you can't still be defending Yost.

Ned yost needs to get back in the game


I dont know butchie instead

[K.C.]

Arizona's not quite dead yet.

Cut the lead to 2.5 today (two in the loss column).

D-Backs have four with the awful Cardinals, and finish up with three at home against Colorado.

Dodgers get the Padres for three and then finish up in San Francisco.


Dodgers Pitching Probables
Chad Billingsley (15-10) vs. Jake Peavy (9-11)
Clayton Kershaw (4-5) vs. Wade LeBlanc (1-1)
Greg Maddux (7-12) vs. Shawn Estes (2-3)
Derek Lowe (14-11) vs. Brad Hennessey (1-1)
Hiroki Kurdoa (9-10) vs. Matt Cain (8-13)
Chad Billingsley (15-10) vs. Tim Lincecum (17-3)

Diamondbacks Pitching Probables
Brandon Webb (21-7) vs. Todd Wellemeyer (12-8)
Randy Johnson (10-9) vs. Kyle Lohse (14-6)
Max Scherzer (0-3) vs Adam Wainwright (10-3)
Doug Davis (5-8) vs. Joel Pineiro (6-7)
Dan Haren (15-8) vs. Aaron Cook (16-9)
Brandon Webb (21-7) vs. Greg Reynolds (2-7)
Randy Johnson (10-9) vs. Ubaldo Jimenez (11-12)

D-Backs could conceivably push Davis up against Wainwright and shift everyone ahead one start.

[midwestjeff]

awful Cardinals,

Unnecessary and just plain rude.

You are no longer welcome in the great Busch Stadium.

Dick.

[A.J.]

epo, surely you can't still be defending Yost.

Stop calling him Shirley.

[albo60s]

I really hadn't read this before I posted in the Red Sox thread.

And look at the bright side, Epo; you'll have a LOT of exciting plays at the plate for the next couple of weeks.


Yeah that play at home on Saturday night when they tried to score Fielder from 2nd was pretty exciting.

[Dirtbag]

Jeez, the Cardinals shit the bed on the bases a couple times tonight and won't let the Dbacks kill themselves quite yet. Only 2 games back, I'm hoping the Dodgers crawl back into the shitter where they were last month.

[K.C.]

Jeez, the Cardinals shit the bed on the bases a couple times tonight and won't let the Dbacks kill themselves quite yet. Only 2 games back, I'm hoping the Dodgers crawl back into the shitter where they were last month.

I'd revist my 'awful Cardinals' comment, but midwestjeff takes offense.


They really took a nose dive off a cliff. To be fair, though, no one really expected them to stay in as a long as they did this season.

They're a good comeback candidate for '09, though, with Wainwright and Carpenter at full strength, if they can patch their bullpen together.

...and if Pujols puts off his inevitable Tommy John surgery.

[KnoxHarrington]

Well, Hank Steinbrenner is marking the occasion of the Yankees being eliminated from playoff contention in a classy way, congratulating the Red Sox for yet another playoff appearance, and congratulating the Rays on their ascent.

Nah, just kidding. He's bitching about how divisions are set up in baseball.

"The biggest problem is the divisional setup in Major League Baseball," Steinbrenner wrote. "I didn't like it in the 1970s, and I hate it now. Baseball went to a multi-division setup to create more races, rivalries and excitement. But it isn't fair.

"You see it this season, with plenty of people in the media pointing out that Joe Torre and the Dodgers are going to the playoffs while we're not. This is by no means a knock on Torre -- let me make that clear -- but look at the division they're in. If L.A. were in the AL East, it wouldn't be in the playoff discussion. The AL East is never weak."

The Dodgers (81-75) are pacing the National League West, one season after Torre turned down an incentive-based one-year contract offer to continue managing the Yankees.

"I'm happy for Joe, but you have to compare the divisions and the competition," Steinbrenner said. "What if the Yankees finish the season with more wins than the Dodgers, but the Dodgers make the playoffs? Does that make the Dodgers a better team? No."

Boo hoo, Hank. The problem is that the Rays pursued a smart strategy to improve their team, while you continued to sign 'roid-heads past their prime to fat contracts and raped your farm system doing it.

And how'd you like to end up in a 6 team division like the teams in the NL Central are in?

Hank Steinbrenner: as obnoxious as his daddy, but way stupider.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080923&content_id=3535497&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

[cougarjake13]

Well, Hank Steinbrenner is marking the occasion of the Yankees being eliminated from playoff contention in a classy way, congratulating the Red Sox for yet another playoff appearance, and congratulating the Rays on their ascent.

Nah, just kidding. He's bitching about how divisions are set up in baseball.



Boo hoo, Hank. The problem is that the Rays pursued a smart strategy to improve their team, while you continued to sign 'roid-heads past their prime to fat contracts and raped your farm system doing it.

And how'd you like to end up in a 6 team division like the teams in the NL Central are in?

Hank Steinbrenner: as obnoxious as his daddy, but way stupider.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080923&content_id=3535497&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb



stupid loud mouthed steinbrennars making assine comments are good for baseball

[barjockey]

Dodgers magic number is 1

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2008/09/ipt/1222329078.jpg

will be 1st time since '04 that they are NLWest champs:king:

[spadanko]

An anonymous clubhouse insider told the Seattle Times that Mariners teammates were so annoyed with Ichiro Suzuki earlier this season that they considered beating him up.

"I just can't believe the number of guys who really dislike him," said the insider. "It got to a point early on when I thought they were going to get together and go after him." The coaching staff and then-manager John McLaren intervened when one player was overheard talking about wanting to "knock him out." Perhaps the goal would have been to knock him around like the rest of the league has done to Carlos Silva this year, but given Mariners' hitters reputations, it's likely that the team could land several blows and still not do any damage. It's not as though Richie Sexson had a chance of making contact. Sep. 25 - 1:28 pm et

[cougarjake13]

man what the hell did he do to piss the team off ???

[K.C.]

Dodgers magic number is 1


Dodgers clinch.


Guess the Cardinals weren't as awful as I thought.

[epo]

Although nobody is talking about them....the Minnesota Twins have taken over first place from the Chicago White Sox.

Great for the Twins. They place a great style of baseball and should remind us all that while a big payroll is great...it isn't everything.

[barjockey]

Dodgers clinch.


Guess the Cardinals weren't as awful as I thought.

dodgers playoff foe could be the phils mets or cubbies

[Dirtbag]

The Dodgers will do what the NL West does. Get beat in the first round.

[TheMojoPin]

Great for the Twins. They place a great style of baseball...

Playing in a really shitty division?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

The Twins are in ..........


I am not sure, The Royals have been playing some good baseball recently, they have won 8 out of 10




The Injuns were playing good also, but the Saux humbled them with a sweep, I have a feeling both teams will win only 1 of 3 and the TWINS ARE IN...........



:bye: Rhino

[epo]

Playing in a really shitty division?

Well that would be a factor.

But the way they play great defense, have solid pitching and manufacture runs is a very impressive way to play the game. Kudos to Ron Gardenhire for the way he manages that team.

[K.C.]

Alright, it's prediction time.

-Phils take two of three from Washington to win the East.
-Brewers sweep the Cubs to win the Wild Card; Mets drop two of three to Florida.
-Twins hang on to win the AL Central.

[PD]

Alright, it's prediction time.

-Phils take two of three from Washington to win the East.
-Brewers sweep the Cubs to win the Wild Card; Mets drop two of three to Florida.
-Twins hang on to win the AL Central.

Phils sweep (1st 2 close)
Mets win 2, Brewers win 2, forcing playoff
Twins hang on.

[K.C.]

Phils sweep (1st 2 close)
Mets win 2, Brewers win 2, forcing playoff
Twins hang on.

If the Mets get in, it'll almost certainly be with a one game playoff, because I can't see Pinella playing many of his starters this weekend against Milwaukee

I think the Mets' best chance to jump on Florida early. If they can get out to a 4-0, 5-0 lead early in a couple of these games, I think Florida will quit.

But if Florida stays in these games, they'll play hard, for the bragging right of knocking the Mets out two years in a row, and that's where it's just hard to trust the Met bullpen.

That said, the Mets have done pretty well in the first three innings all year.


Honestly, I have a slight, slight inclination towards the Brewers, but I have no clue what the hell will happen.

I will say, I'd be absolutely stunned if the Phillies got knocked out. You can't ask for a much easier set up then they have right now. It would be pretty crushing.

[TheMojoPin]

If the Mets get in, it'll almost certainly be with a one game playoff, because I can't see Pinella playing many of his starters this weekend against Milwaukee

He better fucking not. They dodged a bullet the other day with DeRosa only being day to day. Fuck the "integrity of the game"...you're in, sit your best players and let them rest. Let the kids get some MLB experience.

Plus, the on paper ideal for the Cubs has the Brewers getting into the playoffs over either of the NL East teams.

[K.C.]

Plus, the on paper ideal for the Cubs has the Brewers getting into the playoffs over either of the NL East teams.

You'd rather play the Dodgers than the Mets?

I don't sweat the Dodgers this year either, but the the Cubs almost took three of four from the Mets with their JV squad.

How can you not want the Mets?...you'd only have to face Santana once, as well, since they won't be able to set their rotation even if they got in.



I know I'd rather the Phillies play the Brewers than the Dodgers.

[TheMojoPin]

You'd rather play the Dodgers than the Mets?

I don't sweat the Dodgers this year either, but the the Cubs almost took three of four from the Mets with their JV squad.

How can you not want the Mets?...you'd only have to face Santana once, as well, since they won't be able to set their rotation even if they got in.



I know I'd rather the Phillies play the Brewers than the Dodgers.

The Dodgers or Mets or Brewers are a toss-up; if the Cubs lose to them it's because they played shittily and slumped in a short series and lost to crappier teams. The only team I would like to see the Cubs avoid are the Phillies. The Phillies have so much power and such a good bullpen...scary. I think the Cubs have much better starters and a more consistent lineup, but it ends up being about a wash as to which team is actually better.

[cougarjake13]

He better fucking not. They dodged a bullet the other day with DeRosa only being day to day. Fuck the "integrity of the game"...you're in, sit your best players and let them rest. Let the kids get some MLB experience.

Plus, the on paper ideal for the Cubs has the Brewers getting into the playoffs over either of the NL East teams.




normally id agree but the football giants kinda proved that thinking wrong


but that could just be football



baseball is different though and personally i think all mgrs should do what they think is in the best interest of their team and no one elses

[disneyspy]

rhino for you im going to wear my new tigers cap tommorow at work
its undeated and i didnt wear it alot this year

[disneyspy]

tigers vs white sox
game about to start
if the tigs win they wont finish in dead last
if the sox win they get a 1 game playoff with the twins
game on ESPN2 now

[disneyspy]

oh ya,go tigers,make my season
and ive got the lucky hat on

[cougarjake13]

i hope the sawx win just to force another 1 game playoff

[disneyspy]

i hope the sawx win just to force another 1 game playoff

this is as close to the playoffs my tigs are gonna get

[cougarjake13]

this is as close to the playoffs my tigs are gonna get

a decent addidtion to the rotation and they should contend next year

[disneyspy]

a decent addidtion to the rotation and they should contend next year

our relivers suck
led the league in blown saves

[cougarjake13]

our relivers suck
led the league in blown saves

wasnt rodney out for a good part of the year ??

[disneyspy]

wasnt rodney out for a good part of the year ??

ya and zumaya
jones is gettin old
got so bad they traded pudge for another crappy reliever,farnsworth

[cougarjake13]

ya and zumaya
jones is gettin old
got so bad they traded pudge for another crappy reliever,farnsworth

jones retired

[disneyspy]

jones retired

no shit?
this is the first game ive paid attention to since they traded pudge
it felt like they gave up on tryin to win so ive ignored baseball til the playoffs
like i said,this is as close to a playoff game as im gonna see
plus i hate chicago sports teams

[disneyspy]

this game is great.tigers best pitcher came in to pitch relief
rhino should be thankful

[disneyspy]

im an idiot,2 wild pitches,4 walks in 1 inning,bases loaded,games tied
tigers in 08 season surmised in 1 fn inning

[disneyspy]

grandslam,ill stay outta da post season discussion
with the tigers

[TheMojoPin]

Interesting: (http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/designated_hitter/)

Many people call the baseball playoffs a “crapshoot” including Braves skipper Bobby Cox. A’s GM Billy Beane was quoted in Moneyball as saying: “My (expletive) doesn’t work in the playoffs. My job is to get us to the playoffs. What happens after that is (expletive) luck.” The historical data presented in this article absolutely supports those sentiments. Considering that 51% of all playoff series are won by the lesser team indicates that it might as well be a coin flip. The MLB playoffs are indeed a crapshoot. Good luck to the Angels, the Cubs and all the playoff teams…with emphasis on LUCK.

[MagillaGorillaz]

You know what makes this postseason worse for New York Mets and Yankees fans, the fact that the other two cities with two MLB teams, Los Angeles and Chicago are now all in the postseason. You know Bud is hoping for a Cubs White Sox match up or Angels Dodgers series.

[K.C.]

You know what makes this postseason worse for New York Mets and Yankees fans, the fact that the other two cities with two MLB teams, Los Angeles and Chicago are now all in the postseason. You know Bud is hoping for a Cubs White Sox match up or Angels Dodgers series.

Wasn't the 2000 Subway Series a colossal failure outside of New York?

I don't think the two team rivalries play very well outside of the host city.

Cubs/White Sox could be the exception the rule this year, because of the storyline of the Cubs breaking the 100 year curse, with the cross-town rivals as the only obstacle in the way.

[underdog]

You know Bud is hoping for a Cubs White Sox match up or Angels Dodgers series.

No, Bud is hoping for a Cubs / Red Sox matchup.

[TheGameHHH]

Interesting: (http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/designated_hitter/)

that is pretty interesting, but how do you define "lesser team"?

[K.C.]

how do you define "lesser team"?

http://www.israelity.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/ny-mets-3d-logo.jpg




...oh, come on...you knew I was going to do that....

[TheMojoPin]

that is pretty interesting, but how do you define "lesser team"?

It seemed to me like he was basing most of his figures on a team's record.

[Epschtein]

red sox vs dodgers is the series of destiny...

poor twins couldnt even score a run to keep hope alive :(

[barjockey]

Todays winners are
Brewers
Dodgers> I'm a dodger fan:smoke:
Angels

[A.J.]

ESPN.com World Series predictions. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3619261)

[IMSlacker]

Uh oh. "Playoff" Brad Lidge has returned.

[TheMojoPin]

Uh oh. "Playoff" Brad Lidge has returned.

For a bit there I thought we were gonna see the sequel to this:

http://www.whiterose.org/pete/blog/images/pujols02.jpg

[TheMojoPin]

Good great fuck, how is Frank Caliendo still on the air?

Are we gonna see spots for that dreck every break like last year?

[barjockey]

Good great fuck, how is Frank Caliendo still on the air?

Are we gonna see spots for that dreck every break like last year?

Who watches that shite? AWEFUL

[MacVittie]

Good great fuck, how is Frank Caliendo still on the air?

Are we gonna see spots for that dreck every break like last year?

Frank Caliendo is the poor man's Jay Mohr.

oops, wrong thread

[cougarjake13]

Wasn't the 2000 Subway Series a colossal failure outside of New York?

I don't think the two team rivalries play very well outside of the host city.

Cubs/White Sox could be the exception the rule this year, because of the storyline of the Cubs breaking the 100 year curse, with the cross-town rivals as the only obstacle in the way.


yeh and outside of anaheim and san fran i dont think that 2002 ws was recieved too well

[TheGameHHH]

i've seen majority of every game today and they have been awesome. here's a few observations

1) Cole Hammels is a beast, just a flat out stud.

2) Manny hit a ball tonight that was low and it looked like he got it off the end of the bat, it still sailed a good 75 feet into the left center stands. thats power.

3) The Cubs are playing not to lose instead of playing to win.

4) The Red Sox eat babies and I hope the Angels shit on their chests. though knowing Papi I'm sure he gets off on dudes pooping on his chest.

[Fallon]

Good great fuck, how is Frank Caliendo still on the air?

Are we gonna see spots for that dreck every break like last year?

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[razorboy]

My boy Longo! Two postseason at-bats, two home runs!

[KnoxHarrington]

By the way, Fezzie, attendance at the Rays game today is just over 35k, which, with reduced seating due to things like having to create additional press areas, is a sellout.

[Doctor Z]

CC Sabathia: Great, Until The Playoffs

This is why I am NOT INTERESTED. We already have Wang filling that role.

[epo]

Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!

[TheGameHHH]

CC Sabathia: Great, Until The Playoffs

This is why I am NOT INTERESTED. We already have Wang filling that role.

bro, he's pitching his 4th straight game on 3 days rest. its going to catch up to you eventually. sometimes its like you think every ball player sucks unless they are on the yankees. c.c. is an outstanding pitcher and if you aren't interested in obtaining him then i'd like to see how you evaluate talent.

[cougarjake13]

plus with the yanks i dont think he'll be pitchimg many games on 3 days rest

[Doctor Z]

Like I said, GREAT pitcher... until the playoffs. If you're a Yankee fan, you go into the regular season intending to make the playoffs. When we get there, I want a guy who can lock the fuck down. Look at Lester, and Beckett. We need guys who are not only good in October, but actually get BETTER in October.

[albo60s]

Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!



amen

[lleeder]

The Cubs are such losers its unbelievable. Mojo and all the rest of you Cubs fans are doomed. Back to back errors they will choke up this shit again. Not even cupcake power can save their sorry asses. Bunt in a run. hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

[TheGameHHH]

Like I said, GREAT pitcher... until the playoffs. If you're a Yankee fan, you go into the regular season intending to make the playoffs. When we get there, I want a guy who can lock the fuck down. Look at Lester, and Beckett. We need guys who are not only good in October, but actually get BETTER in October.

C.C. Sabathia, not pitching his 4th game in 12 days, will lock down a game for you just as sharp in April as he will in October.

If your concern for not wanting him was due to the fact that the Brewers might be ruining his arm right now then that's one thing. but your concern about him not being good in October is really just silly.

[underdog]

Nice season, cubbies.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb159/artinthebush/Thewheelsfelloff.jpg

[skyscraper]

who the fuck are these tbs announcers?!?!?!?!?! the play by play guy keeps saying "erra" instead of "error." it's driving me out of my mind!

[brettmojo]

MANNY GOES BOOM!!! IT'S AN A-BO... Ooops. My bad.

[lleeder]

Standing ovation? More like 75% boos. What a fat douche, 6 runs and down 2-0. hahahahahahahahaha

[TheGameHHH]

Standing ovation? More like 75% boos. What a fat douche, 6 runs and down 2-0. hahahahahahahahaha

instead of actually playing the season why not just line up every Cubs fan on opening day, kick them in the balls and then let them have 6-7 months of peace and tranquility.

[TheMojoPin]

Eh, that's the peril of the 5-game series and a team pressing. It happens every year.

[TheGameHHH]

Eh, that's the peril of the 5-game series and a team pressing. It happens every year.

if there were two playoff formats that i could eliminate it would easily be the 5 game series and the 2-3-2 home/away splits.

[TheMojoPin]

if there were two playoff formats that i could eliminate it would easily be the 5 game series and the 2-3-2 home/away splits.

The 5-game series is definitely the thing that stresses me out the most when the Cubs have made the playoffs in recent years. There's so little margin for error and losing that first game.

[K.C.]

The 5-game series is definitely the thing that stresses me out the most when the Cubs have made the playoffs in recent years. There's so little margin for error and losing that first game.

I'm inclined to agree with you, Mojo, but you can't blame this year on the five game series after this complete disaster of a game the Cubs have thrown up there tonight.

They haven't even really been competitive in this series.

[TheMojoPin]

I'm inclined to agree with you, Mojo, but you can't blame this year on the five game series after this complete disaster of a game the Cubs have thrown up there tonight.

They haven't even really been competitive in this series.

Where did I "blame" the 5-game series for the Cubs losing? As I said before the postseason, if the Cubs lose a series, it'll be due to them beating themselves. They're clearly pressing and blowing the whole deal. All I said is that the 5-game series stresses me out because they're so short.

[K.C.]

Where did I "blame" the 5-game series for the Cubs losing? As I said before the postseason, if the Cubs lose a series, it'll be due to them beating themselves. They're clearly pressing and blowing the whole deal. All I said is that the 5-game series stresses me out because they're so short.

It seemed like you were implying it.

If not, my bad...misread it.

[ADF]

Being a Dodgers fan, these first two games have far exceeded my expectations. The one thing the Cubs fans can be happy about is that the droves of new Cubs fans will leave the sinking ship that is the Cubs' postseason.

[Fallon]

Where did I "blame" the 5-game series for the Cubs losing? As I said before the postseason, if the Cubs lose a series, it'll be due to them beating themselves. They're clearly pressing and blowing the whole deal. All I said is that the 5-game series stresses me out because they're so short.

You really want one more loss?

[Doctor Z]

Congratulations to Joe Torre on getting out of the first round.

[cougarjake13]

Congratulations to Joe Torre on getting out of the first round.



its not done yet but yeh congrats

[JimBeam]

Article from earlier this week in the LA Times about Manny Ramirez :

http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-sp-simers28-2008sep28,0,7148173.column

I used to defend this guy, even as a non-Red Sox fan, but the more I read about him now the more I despise him.

The one thing that sticks out to me, when people especially now in LA try to make him seem misunderstood, is the story about him throwing down the old guy that worked in red Sox management.

I thought it was horseshit that the Red Sox themselves seemed to ignore the matter but for that incident to not be forever attached to his personal legacy is a joke.

He wants the game to end and not to be talked about when it's over well then the non-game things that happen off the field should be talked about more.

[cougarjake13]

well mannys a loveable misanthrope not the angry albert belle misanthrope



he's a first ballot hall of famer and the media will love it when he takes the stand at the induction

[TheMojoPin]

Manny fucking rules.

[TheGameHHH]

Article from earlier this week in the LA Times about Manny Ramirez :

http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-sp-simers28-2008sep28,0,7148173.column

I used to defend this guy, even as a non-Red Sox fan, but the more I read about him now the more I despise him.

The one thing that sticks out to me, when people especially now in LA try to make him seem misunderstood, is the story about him throwing down the old guy that worked in red Sox management.

I thought it was horseshit that the Red Sox themselves seemed to ignore the matter but for that incident to not be forever attached to his personal legacy is a joke.

He wants the game to end and not to be talked about when it's over well then the non-game things that happen off the field should be talked about more.

you should be just as angry with Scott Boras as Manny.

[underdog]

I can't wait for Shane Victorino to get beaned next game.

[Doctor Z]

I can't believe how much I've gone from HATING Manny's guts to loving the guy.

[RingWraith]

I can't believe how much I've gone from HATING Manny's guts to loving the guy.

Maybe because deep down you want him as a Yankee. :dry:

[epo]

I can't wait for Shane Victorino to get beaned next game.

I want Mota to do it. That way it will hurt.

[brettmojo]

I can't believe how much I've gone from HATING Manny's guts to loving the guy.
It really is weird all it took was for him to take off the uniform.

But I still don't want him on the team.

[ralphbxny]

Congrats LA!

[TheMojoPin]

Congrats LA!

Indeed.

They stepped up when it counts.

Besides, Manny rules. I'd love to see a Dodgers vs. Red Sox series.

[cougarjake13]

I want Mota to do it. That way it will hurt.

speaking of mota


is he juicing again ??

[K.C.]

Besides, Manny rules. I'd love to see a Dodgers vs. Red Sox series.

Everyone's a Phillies hater....

[epo]

speaking of mota

is he juicing again ??

I wish!

[Friday]

Everyone's a Phillies hater....

it's true... not even sure why... but i am with Mojo. I would love to see the Dodgers in the WS against the Sawx.

And while i have love for some very wonderful Sawx fans... i would have to favor the Dodgers. If only for the ultimate Fuck You to the Skankees from Joe Torre's perspective.

[brettmojo]

Dodgers vs. Red Sox is the best match up. West Coast vs. East Coast, Manny vs. Red Sox, Torre going to the series after the Yankee brass drummed him outta' the organization, Sox trying to establish themselves as team of the decade.

Rays vs. Phillies would be a disaster and having either one of those teams facing either one of the other teams really doesn't have any appeal to anyone outside their fan bases.

[ralphbxny]

Great game in Boston tonight. Stinks I wont be in the country for the NL and ALCS!!

Damn Vacation !!!

[ralphbxny]

yay I got baseball to watch tomorrow!!

[Da Fish]

Enough with all this Bon Jovi crap.:surrender:

[TheGameHHH]

B.J. Upton took his cock out and pissed on Gavin Floyd today

[Marc with a c]

B.J. Upton took his cock out and pissed on Gavin Floyd today

according to harold reynolds he understands floyd very well because they faced each other in high school.

[TheGameHHH]

according to harold reynolds he understands floyd very well because they faced each other in high school.

well harold reynolds is a genius, i mean most MLB calibur pitchers never change their mechanics or their pitching styles from high school to the pros. they just go out there and wing the same shit year after year.

[IMSlacker]

well harold reynolds is a genius

He's a poor man's Joe Morgan.

[cougarjake13]

He's a poor man's Joe Morgan.




both of them should die horrible firey deaths

[Da Fish]

He's a poor man's Joe Morgan.

He's better than Joe Buck at least.

[Bossanova]

I swear to god if I have to watch two white trash cities like Philly and Boston in the Series, I may actually cry

[midwestjeff]

Apparently one of the Astros still has some fight left in him.

http://sports.aol.com/mlb/story/_a/bbdp/backe-arrested-after-brawl-at-reception/202665?icid=100214839x1210555518x1200658886

[cougarjake13]

Apparently one of the Astros still has some fight left in him.

http://sports.aol.com/mlb/story/_a/bbdp/backe-arrested-after-brawl-at-reception/202665?icid=100214839x1210555518x1200658886


man he looks angry as hell in that pic

[underdog]

I swear to god if I have to watch two white trash cities like Philly and Boston in the Series, I may actually cry

I can't believe you brought up white trash and didn't mention Tampa.

[cougarjake13]

I can't believe you brought up white trash and didn't mention Tampa.

actually the white trash isnt in tampa for the most part

now the surrounding counties ...

[K.C.]

Report: Japan tries to discourage amateurs from playing in MLB with ban
ESPN.com news services

Established Japanese professional players have been coming to Major League Baseball for several years. However, Japan's 12 pro baseball teams are trying to make it so the country's amateur players don't follow suit.

Japan's 12 teams have voted on a conditional ban on any amateur player who signs with an overseas professional team, the Mainichi Daily News reported. The move comes after Junichi Tazawa, a 22-year-old star pitcher, announced his intentions to play in Major League Baseball instead of Japan.

Japanese amateurs who sign with an overseas pro team out of high school will be banned from playing in Japan for three years, while amateurs who sign with an overseas pro team from a university or company team would be banned for two years.

The ban will be in effect for Japan's professional draft on Oct. 30 and should apply to Tazawa. The ban will apply to players who choose to play with an overseas pro team despite being drafted by a Japanese team or players who refuse to be nominated for the Japanese draft.

Tazawa led the Nippon Oil Corp. team to the title in Japan's intercity baseball tournament and was named MVP. He announced his intentions to the play in the majors on Sept. 11 and wrote a letter to Japan's pro teams requesting not to be drafted.


I imagine it's three years from the point you reapply for instatement, so it'd be essentially three additional years after a player returned to Japan.

That said, I don't think it'll cause a huge effect. All it will do is boost the initial contract offers from the MLB clubs to the amateur free agents, because there's some risk involved for the Japanese players if they bottom out in the MLB minor league system.

[Doctor Z]

Son of a bitch bastard. Can't ONE team I'm rooting for win?

Fuck.

[Fallon]

Son of a bitch bastard. Can't ONE team I'm rooting for win?

Fuck.

Seems like you're the problem.

[MacVittie]

Nice win last night for the Rays, but they look fragile. I can't see them having much success in Fenway. I hope that at least one of these series goes long though, there's nothing better than a Game 7.

[cougarjake13]

beltran to yanks or cubbies ??


its internet rumors so take it for what its worth


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/67061-come-to-think-of-itcarlos-beltran-would-look-good-in-cubbie-blue

[cougarjake13]

HOW BOUT DEM DODGERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheGameHHH]

beltran to yanks or cubbies ??


its internet rumors so take it for what its worth


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/67061-come-to-think-of-itcarlos-beltran-would-look-good-in-cubbie-blue

there will be no Beltran move to the Yankees, that im sure of. as far as the Cubbies, who knows?

[cougarjake13]

FURCAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[barjockey]

Nice Job Wakefield

[brettmojo]

HOW BOUT DEM DODGERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9651/m8e5d9259a037c27a80ecb4fu4.gif

[RickMcCrank47]

GO RAYS!!

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x185/RickMcCrank47/boston-sucks.jpg

[cougarjake13]

lets go m-effers

[cougarjake13]

damn about a foot away from a homer

[cougarjake13]

i'd say have navi bunt aybar to 3rd

[cougarjake13]

bal fucking delli !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





2-1 rays !!!!!!!!!!!

[KingGeno]

Sup CJ? Good game so far, ya? Four posts in a row, didn't want ya to feel all lonely. :wink:

[joeyballsack]

Garza has looked really good tonight.

Apart from the pockmarks and huge beak that is.

[cougarjake13]

Sup CJ? Good game so far, ya? Four posts in a row, didn't want ya to feel all lonely. :wink:

yeh it was getting quiet in here


fucking awesome


i won the online lottery to buy tix for tonights game but by the time i saw the email the game was sold out

[cougarjake13]

willy

motherfucking

aybar


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[brettmojo]

Wheeler for 6 outs???

Kiss of death Maddon.

[cougarjake13]

Wheeler for 6 outs???

Kiss of death Maddon.


normally id agree

but wheeler pitched excellant for 3 innings the other night

[cougarjake13]

Wheeler for 6 outs???

Kiss of death Maddon.



well so much for that

[joeyballsack]

I thought Tito would put Ellsbury in as a pinch runner for Cora to up the pressure a little bit.

One out, two on, this could be the best chance the Sox get.

[cougarjake13]

david


motherfucking


price


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KingGeno]

That cocksucker with the cowbell should be brough to the pitcher's mound and shot. ALthough that bell still isn't near as bad as Joe Buck.

And that cool guy behind home plate wearing the Bucs jersey with "Super Bowl" as the name on the back of it.

[joeyballsack]

Cowbell or thunder stick.

Which is worse?

[cougarjake13]

Cowbell or thunder stick.

Which is worse?

they both suck ass

but it seemed like the thunderstix caught on more and thus were louder and more annoying

[brettmojo]

My god is Youkilis a hideous chud.

[cougarjake13]

That cocksucker with the cowbell should be brough to the pitcher's mound and shot. ALthough that bell still isn't near as bad as Joe Buck.

And that cool guy behind home plate wearing the Bucs jersey with "Super Bowl" as the name on the back of it.



it was killing me all night trying to figure out who the fuck wore 37 as a buc

[K.C.]

My god is Youkilis a hideous chud.

He looks like a slimmer Bastion Booger.

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m393/bugman25/BastionBooger.jpg

[cougarjake13]

RAYS WIN
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[led37zep]

There isn't a group of fans who deserve seeing their team go to the world series any less.

[K.C.]

There isn't a group of fans who deserve seeing their team go to the world series any less.

Well.....


http://img.webring.com/r/b/braves47/logo

[brettmojo]

There isn't a group of fans who deserve seeing their team go to the world series any less.
http://thenastyboys.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/cubs.jpg

[KnoxHarrington]

I really hope this really turns the Rays into a real solid franchise that can play at this level for a long while, and it's not a Marlins situation where they win it all and then get dismantled.

My guess is that Rays' ownership will try their absolute best to avoid that, particularly if they want a new park. And I don't know what the contract situations on the team are, so they might not have to pay up too much next year.

But if they can hold it together, I think for the next few years, at least, it'll be the Red Sox and Rays battling for the AL East, and not a certain other team.

[brettmojo]

But if they can hold it together, I think for the next few years, at least, it'll be the Red Sox and Rays battling for the AL East, and not a certain other team.
Yeah... Good luck with that.

[cougarjake13]

Last team to beat the phillies in a world series the blue jays


who are the facing the rays

[OGC]

Last team to beat the phillies in a world series the blue jays


who are the facing the rays


shhhhh..... talk like that can get a guy :banning: around here.

[TheMojoPin]

Odds that this beats out 2005 as the lowest-rated WS of all time?

[TheMojoPin]

http://thenastyboys.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/cubs.jpg

Wait, we don't "deserve" it?

Suck my taint.

[RickMcCrank47]

so do i go to a world series game or do i go watch the buffalo bills play at the dolphins.....

im torn....not really a huge rays fan, but i live 35 mins from the stadium, so its a local team kind of thing....

but im a diehard bills fan.... decisions decisions....

[Da Fish]

so do i go to a world series game or do i go watch the buffalo bills play at the dolphins.....

im torn....not really a huge rays fan, but i live 35 mins from the stadium, so its a local team kind of thing....

but im a diehard bills fan.... decisions decisions....

How often do you get a chance to go to a world series game.

[TheGameHHH]

so do i go to a world series game or do i go watch the buffalo bills play at the dolphins.....

im torn....not really a huge rays fan, but i live 35 mins from the stadium, so its a local team kind of thing....

but im a diehard bills fan.... decisions decisions....

that is a tough one, i went to the dolphins game yesterday and just a heads up its hot as fuck. i think id stay in tampa and watch a world series game, im thinking of making the drive up and going if i can get a decent priced ticket. and i dont even like either team.

[A.J.]

There isn't a group of fans who deserve seeing their team go to the world series any less.

Precisely why I want Philly to win.

[cougarjake13]

so do i go to a world series game or do i go watch the buffalo bills play at the dolphins.....

im torn....not really a huge rays fan, but i live 35 mins from the stadium, so its a local team kind of thing....

but im a diehard bills fan.... decisions decisions....


why not both ???


games 1 and 2 are at the trop, wed and thurs

bills -dolphins are on a sunday while the world series will be in philly

[TheGameHHH]

if you're the Braves do you trade a starting pitching prospect and outfield prospect, plus either Escobar or Johnson, for Jake Peavy? i think this is a move you have to make, but ESPN is reporting the Braves GM doesn't want to do it. this doesnt make sense to me.

[TheMojoPin]

if you're the Braves do you trade a starting pitching prospect and outfield prospect, plus either Escobar or Johnson, for Jake Peavy? i think this is a move you have to make, but ESPN is reporting the Braves GM doesn't want to do it. this doesnt make sense to me.

The Braves are in rebuilding mode trying to maximize their farm system.

[K.C.]

The Braves are in rebuilding mode trying to maximize their farm system.

The Braves aren't in full rebuilding mode until they trade Chipper Jones, which they don't appear like they're going to do.


But regardless, I'd do it in a second if I were them. Peavy is signed through 2013. He's a guy you can build around.

Peavy, McCann, Kotchman, one out of Escobar/Johnson (assuming the other gets traded in the deal), Jurrjens, Campillo.

That's the beginnings of a pretty impressive core.

If they could just figure out Francoeur, they'd only be another year or two away.

[TheMojoPin]

I'll bet good money Chipper isn't a Brave next year.

And there's no chance Peavy ends up on the Braves. They're out. (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/11056557) In fact, I'd bet any leftover money on Peavy not being moved at all this offseason.

[TheGameHHH]

I'll bet good money Chipper isn't a Brave next year.

And there's no chance Peavy ends up on the Braves. They're out. (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/11056557) In fact, I'd bet any leftover money on Peavy not being moved at all this offseason.

thats why i made my original post. i said the GM doesnt wanna do it and i dont understand why.

[K.C.]

I'll bet good money Chipper isn't a Brave next year.

And there's no chance Peavy ends up on the Braves. They're out. (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/11056557) In fact, I'd bet any leftover money on Peavy not being moved at all this offseason.

It would be smart to trade Chipper now, because I don't think they're going to contend next year either.

They'd be lucky to finish 4th in the NL East in 2009.

But I'm not so sure he'll get moved. He has a no trade and he doesn't really want to.


I can't understand why the Padres were shopping Peavy to begin with. It's completely ridiculous. But it's more ridiculous for the Braves to completely disregard negotiating for him.

I'm not sure there's a prospect I wouldn't trade for him (maybe David Price). He's still young, he's under contract until '13, and he's one of the best pitchers in baseball.

I'd be tossing coke and hookers through the Padres GM's window night and day to get this guy.

[epo]

It would be smart to trade Chipper now, because I don't think they're going to contend next year either.

They'd be lucky to finish 4th in the NL East in 2009.

But I'm not so sure he'll get moved. He has a no trade and he doesn't really want to.


I can't understand why the Padres were shopping Peavy to begin with. It's completely ridiculous. But it's more ridiculous for the Braves to completely disregard negotiating for him.

I'm not sure there's a prospect I wouldn't trade for him (maybe David Price). He's still young, he's under contract until '13, and he's one of the best pitchers in baseball.

I'd be tossing coke and hookers through the Padres GM's window night and day to get this guy.

If I were a Braves fan I'd be pissed if they traded Chipper.

Call me sentimental, but there are some guys you don't trade in baseball. The Phillies didn't trade Mike Schmidt to "extract his value", or the Cubs trade Ryne Sandberg. There are some lines a team shouldn't cross.