MLB Offseason Discussion...HOT STOVE, SSSSSSSSS!!!

[led37zep]

I'd love to post in this thread but my Giants aren't fucking doing anything!
:furious::wallbash::furious::wallbash::furious::wa llbash:

[Knowledged_one]

What do you mean they overpaid for Aaron Rowand

[Neckbeard]

And most of the team all got even older. That's doing something.

[led37zep]

What do you mean they overpaid for Aaron Rowand
The Giants? Overpay for a player? Wha? Noooooooooooooo
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAGP038~Barry-Zito-2005-Studio-Plus-Posters.jpg

Here are the last transactions the giants have made since the new year.


February 8, 2008 Agrred to terms with pitchers Vinnie Chulk and Kevin Correia on one-year contracts.
January 18, 2008 Agreed to terms with pitcher Brad Hennessey on a one-year contract.
January 11, 2008 Invited pitchers Victor Santos, Bartolome Fortunato and Keiichi Yabu, catchers Steve Holm, Pablo Sandoval and Jackson Williams, infielders Brian Bocock, Emmanuel Burriss, Brett Harper, Justin Leone, Scott McClain and Ivan Ochoa and outfielders Ben Copeland, Brian Horwitz and Mike McBryde to spring training.

[Knowledged_one]

Could you pick any of those guys out of a lineup

I have never seen such a non-descreipt list of players in my life

[led37zep]

Could you pick any of those guys out of a lineup

I have never seen such a non-descreipt list of players in my life

EXACTLY!!!!!!:wallbash:


I have a feeling Sabean is trying to deal either Matt Cain or Tim Lincecum for a big name bat. Its too quiet over there right now....I don't like it.

[Bulldogcakes]

Will Angelos kill Roberts deal? (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/jon_heyman/02/11/heyman.Feb11scoop/index.html?eref=writers)

Orioles owner Peter Angelos, who is famous for meddling in baseball matters and killing deals, showed some definite progress in allowing Baltimore VP Andy MacPhail to trade two of Angelos' favorites -- shortstop Miguel Tejada and starting pitcher Erik Bedard -- and many figured that once Angelos signed off on Bedard, he'd also give the go-ahead to trade second baseman Brian Roberts to the Cubs.

It only makes sense. Bedard's trade signaled that the Orioles' rebuilding process is in full flight, so there's less reason to keep Roberts. But sense and the Orioles don't always go hand-in-hand.

There is now a feeling in Orioles land that Angelos may be balking at the negotiated haul for Roberts, which according to sources, is a very fair three-player package of young pitcher Sean Gallagher, outfielder Matt Murton and infielder Ronny Cedeno. There is also a sense that Angelos has an unreasonable attachment to Roberts, who may well remind the owner of himself: a little guy who's scrapped his way to the top of his profession

Angelos has killed trades involving Roberts before. And apparently even Roberts' inclusion in the Mitchell Report and admission as a steroid user hasn't dulled Angelos' affection for him.

[Knowledged_one]

Matt Murton does not make sense the Orioles are already crowded in the OF and dont need another one, Murton is the trash the Cubs are simply trying to peddle and i dont think the orioles will take him unless the cubs take someone like Jay Payton back from them. Cedeno is only being included because the need to fill the 2B slot when Roberts is gone but Murton makes no sense.

I also think Angelos has given the reins in full to MacPhail to do what he sees fit to make the team better, but since Roberts is under control for two more years they may hold him for a year and deal him next year

[jauble]

Murton is a decent bench player just not always for the whole season

[Knowledged_one]

Murton is a decent bench player just not always for the whole season

Oh im not doubting that he can play but the Orioles already have in the OF: Luke Scott, Adam Jones and Markakis who are the starting 3. They then have Tike Redman, Jay Payton and Jay Gibbons in the OF as back ups and even if you move Gibbons to DH they would already have 5 OF's and Murton just does not fit, so like i said they would take him if the Cubs take Jay Payton back in the deal which we all know wont happen, not to mention the O's have a young OF by the name of Nolan Reimold in the minors who they want to bring up.

It just doesnt make sense to trade for another OF and a few posts above I even said that Pie doesnt even really make sense in a deal

[jauble]

Oh im not doubting that he can play but the Orioles already have in the OF: Luke Scott, Adam Jones and Markakis who are the starting 3. They then have Tike Redman, Jay Payton and Jay Gibbons in the OF as back ups and even if you move Gibbons to DH they would already have 5 OF's and Murton just does not fit, so like i said they would take him if the Cubs take Jay Payton back in the deal which we all know wont happen, not to mention the O's have a young OF by the name of Nolan Reimold in the minors who they want to bring up.

It just doesnt make sense to trade for another OF and a few posts above I even said that Pie doesnt even really make sense in a deal

Point taken...also as a cubs fan I dont want to lose Pie yet because I dont think he was at his potential last year but he may be this year. We are also saturated with outfielders though.

[Neckbeard]

Matt Murton does not make sense the Orioles are already crowded in the OF and dont need another one, Murton is the trash the Cubs are simply trying to peddle

While I agree that the O's potentially have a crowded outfield, Murton is pretty fucking far from "trash." He's only being used as a trading piece since he's effectively shut out of the starting corner OF slots by Soriano and Fukudome. Personally, I want to hold onto him either as the main corner OF backup, a good, patient bat of the bench with some power, or as a trading chip for someone more useful and necessary than Roberts. Murton is young, cheap, and has succeeded at the ML level for a couple years now...teams will want that. Don't waste him on a redundant player like Roberts.

And I'm not slamming Roberts...he's a very good player and if the Cubs had a need for a better 2B, I'd be all for him. But with DeRosa and Eric Patterson, they don't need a 2nd bagger at all. What they desperately need is a SS, but Jim Hendry is delusional and thinks that the Cubs are fine with Ronnie Cedeno and Ryan Theriot fighting out for that spot. I actually have some faith that Cedeno will turn into a decent SS, given how well he's done in the minors and how young he is, but it's not a good move to go into this season waiting and seeing if Cedeno can hack it AND basically testing Pie as a ML CFer. That's just not smart. You gotta stagger rookies at such key positions.

And I really don't wat to give up Gallagher. He's shown a lot in the minors already and he's just shed about 25 pounds, helping put a few more miles on his fastball. With guys like Lieber, Marquis and Dempster seemingly battling for the #4 and #5 starting pitcher slots, shedding guys like Gallagher who are likely about to make the leap seems really dumb unless it's for a slam bang improvement in a spot the Cubs need to improve. I've been clamoring for the Cubs to try and offer Pie and Gallgher and Cedeno (and even another top pick if needed) for either Kahlil Greene or Hanley Ramirez to shore up SS and then just sign Lofton for CF. Then they still have Kevin Hart and Sean Marshall who can start (and maybe even Carlos Marmol down the line) and they would have just cemented their lineup. Sign Lofton for 2 years and then their other CF prospect, Tyler Colvin, would take over after him. Done and done.

But what do I know?

[Knowledged_one]

While I agree that the O's potentially have a crowded outfield, Murton is pretty fucking far from "trash." He's only being used as a trading piece since he's effectively shut out of the starting corner OF slots by Soriano and Fukudome. Personally, I want to hold onto him either as the main corner OF backup, a good, patient bat of the bench with some power, or as a trading chip for someone more useful and necessary than Roberts. Murton is young, cheap, and has succeeded at the ML level for a couple years now...teams will want that. Don't waste him on a redundant player like Roberts.

And I'm not slamming Roberts...he's a very good player and if the Cubs had a need for a better 2B, I'd be all for him. But with DeRosa and Eric Patterson, they don't need a 2nd bagger at all. What they desperately need is a SS, but Jim Hendry is delusional and thinks that the Cubs are fine with Ronnie Cedeno and Ryan Theriot fighting out for that spot. I actually have some faith that Cedeno will turn into a decent SS, given how well he's done in the minors and how young he is, but it's not a good move to go into this season waiting and seeing if Cedeno can hack it AND basically testing Pie as a ML CFer. That's just not smart. You gotta stagger rookies at such key positions.

And I really don't wat to give up Gallagher. He's shown a lot in the minors already and he's just shed about 25 pounds, helping put a few more miles on his fastball. With guys like Lieber, Marquis and Dempster seemingly battling for the #4 and #5 starting pitcher slots, shedding guys like Gallagher who are likely about to make the leap seems really dumb unless it's for a slam bang improvement in a spot the Cubs need to improve. I've been clamoring for the Cubs to try and offer Pie and Gallgher and Cedeno (and even another top pick if needed) for either Kahlil Greene or Hanley Ramirez to shore up SS and then just sign Lofton for CF. Then they still have Kevin Hart and Sean Marshall who can start (and maybe even Carlos Marmol down the line) and they would have just cemented their lineup. Sign Lofton for 2 years and then their other CF prospect, Tyler Colvin, would take over after him. Done and done.

But what do I know?

Garbage probably the wrong word but in terms of what dem OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO's need on their roster he just doesnt fit

Your posts are very intelligent reminiscent of a young MojoPin

[cougarjake13]

February 8, 2008 Agrred to terms with pitchers Vinnie Chulk and Kevin Correia on one-year contracts.
January 18, 2008 Agreed to terms with pitcher Brad Hennessey on a one-year contract.
January 11, 2008 Invited pitchers Victor Santos, Bartolome Fortunato and Keiichi Yabu, catchers Steve Holm, Pablo Sandoval and Jackson Williams, infielders Brian Bocock, Emmanuel Burriss, Brett Harper, Justin Leone, Scott McClain and Ivan Ochoa and outfielders Ben Copeland, Brian Horwitz and Mike McBryde to spring training.


Could you pick any of those guys out of a lineup

I have never seen such a non-descreipt list of players in my life


pick them out ??? no

but i've heard of Kevin Correia, Brad Hennessey, Bartolome Fortunato, and maybe victor santos

[Bulldogcakes]

Fallout from the Santana contract (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/02/baseball-blog-4.html)

Baseball Blogs Weigh In: Johan Santana's Contract
The biggest move of this year's Hot Stove League was clearly the trade of Johan Santana. The subsequent contract given to Santana by the Mets set a new benchmark for pitchers and could have a lasting trickle-down effect on other pitchers in baseball. The players most likely to cash in on the Santana deal are other young lefties with strong track records. The first fallout appears to be in Cleveland, with the recent news that C.C. Sabathia has broken off contract talks. With pitchers and catchers conducting their first workouts in many camps today, let's take a look at how Santana's deal is affecting other pitchers in the blogosphere.

Let's Go Tribe feels that Sabathia could command $150MM on the open market and breaking off contract talks means Sabathia will not be a member of the Indians in 2009.
Indians Confidential agrees that Sabathia is "as good as gone."
Tribe Report does not think the Indians should give Sabathia a seven-year deal as it is a stretch to think he will be worth $20MM at age 35.
MLB Fleece Factor calls it "The Santana Effect" and believes that Santana's new deal means that A.J. Burnett will likely opt out of his contract in Toronto following the 2008 season. In addition, they believe that there is a possibility that the Jays will look to trade Roy Halladay prior to his 2010 free agency.
Rays Index believes there is a good chance the Rays will look to trade Scott Kazmir following the 2008 season. They feel that Santana's deal will make it nearly impossible for the Rays to sign Kazmir to an extension prior to his 2010 free agency. In addition, the recent bounty obtained by the Orioles for Erik Bedard and the pipeline of top pitching prospects in the Rays' system, suggest that it is in the best interest of the franchise to move their young ace.


If I'm a Met fan I wouldn't care much about this, but that record setting deal is sending shockwaves across Baseball.

[hexy68]

please my friends..can someone explain why my Phillies are paying adam eaton 7+mill...and paying ryan howard 900K....signed...pissed off philly fan :furious:

[cougarjake13]

Fallout from the Santana contract (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/02/baseball-blog-4.html)



If I'm a Met fan I wouldn't care much about this, but that record setting deal is sending shockwaves across Baseball.

as a met fan i would care, b/c i'd love to get kazmir back

[Bulldogcakes]

K-Rod likely to leave Angels after 08 (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/02/k-rod-may-lea-1.html)

It's looking more and more like 2008 will be Francisco Rodriguez's last season with the Angels. His '08 contract situation is not said to be the reason he's late to camp. But the two sides are a solid $2.5MM apart and Rodriguez will try to become the first player to win a hearing this year on Thursday. Mike DiGiovanna thinks the hearing "could lead to animosity."

Rodriguez recently turned 26. He has a career ERA of 2.37 in 383 innings, with 146 saves under his belt. That's the most saves in baseball history for a pitcher before his 26th birthday. Gregg Olson is next with 131, then Chad Cordero with 128.

Currently scheduled to join K-Rod in the free agent closer class of 2008-09: Joe Nathan, Brad Lidge, Jason Isringhausen, Trevor Hoffman, and Eric Gagne.


Wow, I had no idea he's still that young. He could get 5 years or more from somebody.

[cougarjake13]

K-Rod likely to leave Angels after 08 (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/02/k-rod-may-lea-1.html)



Wow, I had no idea he's still that young. He could get 5 years or more from somebody.

why would they even let him have a chance to leave ???

[TheMojoPin]

I posted this in the Cubs thread, but I'm putting it here, too, since it's been determined to be the longest HR in all of baseball last year at 495 feet. LISTEN TO THE CRACK OF THAT BAT!!! (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w_id=600853&w=mms%3A//a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2007/open/tp/archive09/092107_pitchn_ramirez_hr_tp_350.wmv&pid=mlb_tp&gid=2007/09/21/pitmlb-chnmlb-1&mid=200709212221991&cid=mlb&fid=mlb_tp400&v=2&mType=w&urlstr=&mUrl=&type=v_free&_mp=1)

[Doctor Z]

Wow, Howard actually won his 10 mil arbitration case. A new record.

[Knowledged_one]

New Rays stadium proposal, actually looks alright

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/mlb_experts/post/Tampa-takes-quantum-leap-in-ballpark-design?urn=mlb%2C67665

[K.C.]

Wow, Howard actually won his 10 mil arbitration case. A new record.

Figured he would...$7 million was a low ball.

If the Phillies went something like $7.8, or $7.9, I think they would have won.

[K.C.]

I'm ready to make some early projections...don't hold me to it...just my intial impression.

*-denotes Wild Card

AL East
1. Yankees
2. Red Sox
3. Blue Jays
4. Devil Rays
5. Orioles

AL Central
1. Tigers
2. Indians*
3. White Sox
4. Twins
5. Royals

AL West
1. Mariners
2. Angels
3. Athletics
4. Rangers

NL East
I'll come back with this one in a little bit. There's something I'm still mulling over in regards to the Phillies, Mets, and Braves...namely how I think the Braves will figure into this.

NL Central
1. Cubs
2. Astros
3. Brewers
4. Reds
5. Cardinals
6. Pirates

NL West
1. Rockies
2. Dodgers*
3. Padres
4. Diamondbacks
5. Giants


NL East and NL West will be the most competitive divisions in baseball.

[TheMojoPin]

How the HELL would the Astros possibly come in 2nd in the NL Central?

[Knowledged_one]

How the HELL would the Astros possibly come in 2nd in the NL Central?

I didnt want to be the first one to say it

[Ogre]

I'm ready to make some early projections...don't hold me to it...just my intial impression.


NL East
I'll come back with this one in a little bit. There's something I'm still mulling over in regards to the Phillies, Mets, and Braves...namely how I think the Braves will figure into this..

What about the National's ? We've got uniforms and everything.

[Bulldogcakes]

I posted this in the Cubs thread, but I'm putting it here, too, since it's been determined to be the longest HR in all of baseball last year at 495 feet. LISTEN TO THE CRACK OF THAT BAT!!! (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w_id=600853&w=mms%3A//a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2007/open/tp/archive09/092107_pitchn_ramirez_hr_tp_350.wmv&pid=mlb_tp&gid=2007/09/21/pitmlb-chnmlb-1&mid=200709212221991&cid=mlb&fid=mlb_tp400&v=2&mType=w&urlstr=&mUrl=&type=v_free&_mp=1)

He was fooled. Pure luck.

[TheMojoPin]

He was fooled. Pure luck.

Just because I need a laugh after a long day, please explain.

[Bulldogcakes]

Just because I need a laugh after a long day, please explain.

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/rhprhbbabip.png

http://www.anacondasports.com/wcsstore/anaconda10/images/is5000_lge.jpg

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3678/moosepitchesvp2.jpg

If you don't understand now, then you're just retarded.

[TheMojoPin]

No, no, go on, Baseball Svengali. You're clearly on a roll. You've gotta keep up that streak of everything you have an opinion on baseball-wise, the rest of us know the opposite is true.

[Bulldogcakes]

No, no, go on, Baseball Svengali. You're clearly on a roll. You've gotta keep up that streak of everything you have an opinion on baseball-wise, the rest of us know the opposite is true.

Wow are you dense. I follow up an obvious joke with a more obvious joke and you still can't unclench. Relax.

[TheMojoPin]

Wow are you dense. I follow up an obvious joke with a more obvious joke and you still can't unclench. Relax.

I'm betting it's obvious in Yankee-land.

[Bulldogcakes]

I guess I'll post this here, since it applies to just about everyone.

Out Of Options - 2008 (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/02/out-of-options.html)

Athletics -

Angels -

Astros - Reggie Abercrombie, Humberto Quintero

Blue Jays -

Braves - Blaine Boyer, Chris Resop, Royce Ring, Scott Thorman, Brayan Pena, Jeff Bennett

Brewers -

Cardinals -

Cubs - Ronny Cedeno, Geovany Soto, Angel Guzman

Diamondbacks - Dustin Nippert, Brandon Medders

Dodgers -

Giants - Rajai Davis, Fred Lewis, Erick Threets, Merkin Valdez

Indians - Andy Marte, Shin-Soo Choo

Mariners - Mike Morse

Marlins -

Mets - Ruben Gotay

Nationals -

Orioles - Guillermo Quiroz, Luis Hernandez, Dennis Sarfate

Padres - Paul McAnulty

Phillies -

Pirates -

Rangers - Robinson Tejeda, John Rheinecker

Rays - Edwin Jackson, Jason Hammel, Carlos Pena, Jonny Gomes, Gary Glover, Scott Dohmann, Willy Aybar

Red Sox -

Reds - Bronson Arroyo, Juan Castro, Francisco Cordero, Ryan Freel, Scott Hatteberg, Jeff Keppinger, Brandon Phillips, David Ross, Javier Valentin, David Weathers

Rockies -

Royals - John Bale, Jorge De La Rosa, Jimmy Gobble, Luke Hudson, Ron Mahay, Gil Meche, Leo Nunez, John Buck, Alberto Callaspo, Joey Gathright, Esteban German, Ross Gload, Jose Guillen, Justin Huber, Tony Pena Jr.

Tigers - Denny Bautista, Yorman Bazardo, Tim Bydrak, Francisco Cruceta, Jason Grilli, Bobby Seay, Mike Hessman, Ramon Santiago, Freddy Guzman

Twins -

White Sox - Nick Masset, Gavin Floyd

Yankees - Sean Henn



Ruben Gotay could get tricky for the Mets. If they bring back Valentin as their back infielder they could lose Gotay, who's much younger.

I think its safe to say Carlos Pena won't be sent back to the minors after last year.

Anyone remember Andy Marte? Thats was the big time prospect that the Bosox got from the Braves in the Rentaria trade, who they flipped for Coco Crisp. If he can't earn a spot on the Tribe, he could hit the wire. Amazing.

BTW-Here's the rules if anyone needs them. (http://espn.go.com/mlb/s/transanctionsprimer.html)

[PD]

I guess I'll post this here, since it applies to just about everyone.

Out Of Options - 2008 (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/02/out-of-options.html)



Ruben Gotay could get tricky for the Mets. If they bring back Valentin as their back infielder they could lose Gotay, who's much younger.

I think its safe to say Carlos Pena won't be sent back to the minors after last year.

Anyone remember Andy Marte? Thats was the big time prospect that the Bosox got from the Braves in the Rentaria trade, who they flipped for Coco Crisp. If he can't earn a spot on the Tribe, he could hit the wire. Amazing.

BTW-Here's the rules if anyone needs them. (http://espn.go.com/mlb/s/transanctionsprimer.html)
Those are a few interesting names. I agree that Pena is pretty safe to make the team, and Gotay questionable- however I doubt it would be due to Valentin (although its possible) - he has been making big strides post injury. The big things they need is a backup SS (Gotay did it last year) and a right handed bat.

[K.C.]

What about the National's ?

Maybe 4th...Florida's not looking too sharp.

The Nats will actually have a solid offense...and a great bullpen. Absolutely dreadful starting pitching, though.

[K.C.]

How the HELL would the Astros possibly come in 2nd in the NL Central?

They're going to have a pretty damn good offense this year...and their bullpen will shake out to be solid, I think.

Still have questions about the rotation, but the Central's not a particularly good division.

[TheMojoPin]

They're going to have a pretty damn good offense this year...and their bullpen will shake out to be solid, I think.

Still have questions about the rotation, but the Central's not a particularly good division.

It's not, but the Brewers, Cubs and even Cardinals track to be better than them. I'm not sure why you think the Astros have an all around good offense. They have like 3 threats and then a lot of middling or worse or just plain old. Combine that with a starting rotation that's shaping up to be a disaster, I don't see the Astros getting higher than 3rd as anything short of a huuuuuuge upset.

[K.C.]

It's not, but the Brewers, Cubs and even Cardinals track to be better than them. I'm not sure why you think the Astros have an all around good offense. They have like 3 threats and then a lot of middling or worse or just plain old. Combine that with a starting rotation that's shaping up to be a disaster, I don't see the Astros getting higher than 3rd as anything short of a huuuuuuge upset.

I think the Cardinals are the mess...I could see the Brewers/Astros flipped at 2 and 3, but Berkman/Lee/Pence/Tejada is a good foundation...then throw in Michael Bourn who I saw a lot of last year, and I think that team will score a lot of runs in that ballpark.

I will say that the rotation is my one caveat with the team, but Oswalt is still an ace, and I think Backe back healthy will help a lot. Wandy could go either way.

I can legitimately see them in 2nd....I think 2nd in the NL Central isn't necessarily going to be that good, though...a few games over .500....maybe 83-79.

[Bulldogcakes]

Those are a few interesting names. I agree that Pena is pretty safe to make the team, and Gotay questionable- however I doubt it would be due to Valentin (although its possible) - he has been making big strides post injury. The big things they need is a backup SS (Gotay did it last year) and a right handed bat.

I don't think the Mets will carry 2 backup infielders on the 25 man unless one could play 1B and be a right handed defensive caddy for DelGado. So far, Gotay hasn't played any 1B (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?statsId=7396&type=batting3)If he does learn, he's a decent fit, hits lefties. Not as much pop as you'd like, but you could live w/it. Beats losing him.

The Mets might also end up going with an extra bullpen pitcher. The Mets will be using their bullpen plenty with Pedro and El Duque on the staff. Maine and Perez appear to be a 6 inning pitchers as well.

[TheMojoPin]

I think the Cardinals are the mess...I could see the Brewers/Astros flipped at 2 and 3, but Berkman/Lee/Pence/Tejada is a good foundation...then throw in Michael Bourn who I saw a lot of last year, and I think that team will score a lot of runs in that ballpark.

I don't think Berkman or Tejada are at the points in their careers where they can do enough to carry the dead weight in their lineup. Hitting in that joke of a park helps, but then when they hit the road, they're screwed.

I agree, the Cardinals are a mess, but they've managed to pull off "miracles" with garbage too many times under LaRussa for me to count them out.

I'd just be very surprised i the Astros end up higher than 3rd, or if they even end up in 3rd.

[Knowledged_one]

The Reds have a better offense and starting pitching staff then the Astros

Tejada is washed up and over the hill his numbers have decreased significantly over the last few years and even more hes a slacker who has poor defensive range and doesn't hustle at all

[TheMojoPin]

The Reds have a better offense and starting pitching staff then the Astros

I agree that the Reds are better than people give them credit for...though Dusty is the x-factor. He could easily kill that potential. If he doesn't fuck things up too bad, I could see them placing ahead of the Cards and Astros.

[cougarjake13]

rays signrd pena to as long term deal


so he'll be the everday 1st baseman for a while

[TeeBone]

Barry Bonds to join the Tampa Bay Rays?
Bonds is a prick but this might be the best hype story in years for Thunder Bay.

Do you know of any sports-hype stories that rival this one?

[BeerBandit]

I thought he didn't want to play in the Minor Leagues.

[K.C.]

I don't think Berkman or Tejada are at the points in their careers where they can do enough to carry the dead weight in their lineup. Hitting in that joke of a park helps, but then when they hit the road, they're screwed.

I agree, the Cardinals are a mess, but they've managed to pull off "miracles" with garbage too many times under LaRussa for me to count them out.

I'd just be very surprised i the Astros end up higher than 3rd, or if they even end up in 3rd.

Berkman's still good enough...Tejada could go either way...I wonder how much of his decline in production was playing for a dead team and being out of the playoff hunt in May most of the time, for so many years.

Guys like Pence and Bourn could be future stars in the making...just to give people an idea...Michael Bourn was the fastest guy on a team that had both Shane Victorino and Jimmy Rollins. And Lee is still a basher.

I don't know...I think if they can find a little starting pitching from within their system, they'll be solid.

Would it surprise me if they're horrible, though? No.

[cougarjake13]

I thought he didn't want to play in the Minor Leagues.

rays will win 82 games this year

[TheMojoPin]

Berkman's still good enough...Tejada could go either way...I wonder how much of his decline in production was playing for a dead team and being out of the playoff hunt in May most of the time, for so many years.

Given that his decline has been steady as he's gotten older and he's suffered a bad wrist injury relatively recently, I wouldn't bet on him.

[Snoogans]

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[TheMojoPin]

Goddamn page change.

[TheMojoPin]

good news Dodger fans:

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But...WHERE ARE THE BAT BOYS?!?

[Kevin]

But...WHERE ARE THE BAT BOYS?!?

Where we playing next?

[Tom Coughlin]

Where we playing next?

VEGAS.. THE BIG ROOM!!

[Bulldogcakes]

Cabrera, Tigers talking extension (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/02/miguel-cabrera.html)

SI.com's Jon Heyman reports that the Tigers and Miguel Cabrera's agent have "begun to talk" about a long-term deal. Heyman believes a deal could be hammered out fairly quickly given the nice fit with Detroit for Cabrera. Heyman doesn't have inside info on the years or amount, but got Cabrera to admit that ten years, $200MM sounded about right.



As eye popping as that number is, teams generally are the winners with these extensions. That's why everyone is doing them with their young stars. Risk of career ending injury is fairly small, and with baseball salary inflation at around 14% annually since the 94 strike even a deal like this ends up looking cheap about halfway through it.

[cougarjake13]

Cabrera, Tigers talking extension (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/02/miguel-cabrera.html)



As eye popping as that number is, teams generally are the winners with these extensions. That's why everyone is doing them with their young stars. Risk of career ending injury is fairly small, and with baseball salary inflation at around 14% annually since the 94 strike even a deal like this ends up looking cheap about halfway through it.

how old is he ??? 10 years sounds like a bit much

[TheMojoPin]

how old is he ??? 10 years sounds like a bit much

24.

He's very, very, very good with the bat. Hell, it's the AL, so even if he porks out, he can just DH.

[cougarjake13]

24.

He's very, very, very good with the bat. Hell, it's the AL, so even if he porks out, he can just DH.

damn it feels like he's been around for like 7 -10 yrs already

[TheMojoPin]

damn it feels like he's been around for like 7 -10 yrs already

I think he turns 25 in the next month or two.

[cougarjake13]

I think he turns 25 in the next month or two.

so he'd be 35 at the end of the deal, which isnt bad, but look how badly out of shape he is now, what the fuck would he do after he gets the big pay day ???


i'd go 5 or 6

[Snoogans]

Cabrera, Tigers talking extension (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/02/miguel-cabrera.html)



As eye popping as that number is, teams generally are the winners with these extensions. That's why everyone is doing them with their young stars. Risk of career ending injury is fairly small, and with baseball salary inflation at around 14% annually since the 94 strike even a deal like this ends up looking cheap about halfway through it.

this statement is fundamentally retarded and you are monumentally retarded. I cant even make points to you anymore cause everyone knows you dont even listen, but I really felt you needed to know this. Enjoy the rest of your day, Bagels from Bayside

[Bulldogcakes]

Angelos Gives MacPhail Permission To Move Roberts (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/03/angelos-gives-m.html)

This morning it was reported that the Cubs had two scouts at the Orioles' spring game yesterday to watch Brian Roberts.

Now, several people have written in to let us now that Bruce Levine of ESPN 1000 is reporting that Peter Angelos has given Andy MacPhail the green light to trade Roberts. It has long been rumored that Angelos might have been holding up the trade to the Cubs because of his personal affection for Roberts. With Angelos' blessing, this deal may finally happen in the next few days.



Yes, it looks like its really looks like the deal is going to happen.





No really. This time he means it.







Promise.

[Bulldogcakes]

Mariners Working On Multi-Year Deal For Hernandez (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/03/mariners-workin.html)

Yet another big extension, buying out his arbitration years. This one is more risky, though. Doing one for a pitcher makes less sense than a position player. But they probably feel he's poised to develop into the stud pitcher we all heard he'll be, so they'd rather make a deal now than go in front of an arbitrator after he wins 20 and strikes out 250-300.

[ralphbxny]

Just got my Texas Rangers and Houston Astros Tickets...I love baseball road trips!

[The Majik Man]

Go Brewers, lets be majikal

[cougarjake13]

Go Brewers, lets be majikal

why ?? so you can just be let down when another milwaukee/green bay team gets beat by a new york team in the playoffs

[The Majik Man]

why ?? so you can just be let down when another milwaukee/green bay team gets beat by a new york team in the playoffs

Your lack of Majik simply astounds the Majik Man that and your majikless teams leave me to believe that i have the majik

[cougarjake13]

Your lack of Majik simply astounds the Majik Man that and your majikless teams leave me to believe that i have the majik


lets see brewers last world series championship - 19.. oh yeh never


packers last championship ?? 1996


since 1996 theres been 4 yankee world series championships and 1 giants super bowl victory

and a few devils stanley cups if you wanna count them

[The Majik Man]

lets see brewers last world series championship - 19.. oh yeh never


packers last championship ?? 1996


since 1996 theres been 4 yankee world series championships and 1 giants super bowl victory

and a few devils stanley cups if you wanna count them

Poor misguided un-majikal one. dont you realize that no team wins a title i simply annoint them as my Majikal team and then they are majikally carried to a title
I wouldnt expect you to know how things of my majikal ways work

[QuentinRichardson]

I wanna eat until I'm the size of Kirby Puckett. Im close, but I can get fatter

[The Majik Man]

I wanna eat until I'm the size of Kirby Puckett. Im close, but I can get fatter

You are much to unmajikal at baseball but you do remind me of a young John "Hot Fudge" Williams

[QuentinRichardson]

My original goal was to be the fattest NY Knick. I even beat Zach Randolph, but Curry is just too fat. I don't know if I can make it.

So instead I think ill just go be the fattest in the MLB. Andruw Jones and Miggy aint got shit on my tits

[The Majik Man]

My original goal was to be the fattest NY Knick. I even beat Zach Randolph, but Curry is just too fat. I don't know if I can make it.

So instead I think ill just go be the fattest in the MLB. Andruw Jones and Miggy aint got shit on my tits

You're mits are majikal

[QuentinRichardson]

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/6f36ca8e-9c9a-4ad8-b754-bc6af58e7e5a.jpg

GLORIOUS TITS

[cougarjake13]

Poor misguided un-majikal one. dont you realize that no team wins a title i simply annoint them as my Majikal team and then they are majikally carried to a title
I wouldnt expect you to know how things of my majikal ways work

so why wouldnt you deem your packers or fellow wisconsinions the brewers majik worthy

[cougarjake13]

I wanna eat until I'm the size of Kirby Puckett. Im close, but I can get fatter

well i guess since you guys are doing nothing on the court you have time to post here


hey where's marbury ??? he aint playing

[underdog]

Red Sox threatening to Boycott Japan trip (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3301195)

[cougarjake13]

Red Sox threatening to Boycott Japan trip (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3301195)

crisis averted

sawx will go

coaches to be paid the same as players

[goreds2]

Tomorrows scheduled games on XM:

http://www.xmradio.com/schedule/sport/get_mlb_schedule.jsp


3/23/2008

Indians @ Tigers 1:05PMET XM 178
Nationals @ Marlins 1:05PMET XM 176
Yankees @ Pirates 1:05PMET XM 179
Rays @ Reds 1:05PMET XM 180
Cardinals @ Mets 1:10PMET XM 177
Giants @ Rangers 4:05PMET XM 183
Cubs @ Padres 4:05PMET XM 182
Diamondbacks @ Brewers 4:05PMET XM 181

[Bulldogcakes]

Miguel Cabrera Set To Sign Extension (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/03/miguel-cabrera.html)

According to ESPN's Enquire Rojas, Tigers third baseman Miguel Cabrera is set to sign an eight-year, $153.3MM extension. That's $19.16MM per year for 2009-16. Definitely less than I expected him to sign for.

[cougarjake13]

who's getting up at 6am to watch baseball ??????????/

[Bulldogcakes]

who's getting up at 6am to watch baseball ??????????/

I'm up then anyway. I'll be watching. Its a kick to see a game on at such a weird time, plus its such an event given the locale and the fact its the season opener. I really liked it when the Yanks did it a few years back. They didn't, but I did.

[goreds2]

who's getting up at 6am to watch baseball ??????????/

3/26/2008

Red Sox @ Athletics 6:05AMET XM 179
Red Sox @ Athletics 6:05AMET XM 177
Red Sox @ Athletics 6:05AMET XM 178

[cougarjake13]

I'm up then anyway. I'll be watching. Its a kick to see a game on at such a weird time, plus its such an event given the locale and the fact its the season opener. I really liked it when the Yanks did it a few years back. They didn't, but I did.

yeh i woke up early in 2000 when the mets played the cubs

[goreds2]

I am not sure if this has been posted anywhere here:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:clap:

WASHINGTON, March 26 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- XM Satellite Radio today announced that its 24-hour baseball talk radio channel MLB Home Plate will be available online for the first time , starting March 29 at XM Radio Online (http://listen.xmradio.com), the exclusive home on the Internet for XM's premium content.

MLB Home Plate (XM Channel 175) offers round-the-clock baseball news, commentary, call-in shows, and in-depth interviews with the greats of the game. XM's all-star team of on-air talent on the MLB Home Plate channel includes Hall of Famer Cal Ripken, Jr. and fellow major-league veterans Buck Martinez, Rob Dibble, Kevin Kennedy, and Bill Ripken. XM launched the channel on the satellite radio service in 2005.

The MLB Home Plate channel is the latest addition to XM Radio Online, which offers web users more than 80 channels of commercial-free music and XM exclusive programming from Oprah Winfrey, Bob Dylan, Bob Edwards, and Opie and Anthony.

New users of XM Radio Online can sign up for a 14-day free trial at www.xmradio.com/mlb. XM Radio Online is offering an introductory rate of
$2.99 a month, a savings of more than 50 percent compared to the standard monthly rate of $7.99. The introductory rate will apply for the first six months of service. Customers can sign up for this introductory rate through May 30.

If you are already an XM Satellite Radio subscriber, you can listen to XM Radio Online at no charge.

[midwestjeff]

Every time I hear about Scott Rolen's broken finger I laugh and laugh. Rolen is the biggest pussy on the planet. He's so damn fragile. Have fun with that Blue Jays fans.

[Gvac]

Fear the Cincinnati Reds, and remember this name - Johnny Cueto.

[TheMojoPin]

Pity the Cincinnati Reds, and remember these names - Dusty Baker and Corey Patterson.

Fixed.

You guys don't deserve this.

[Gvac]

Why must you crush my dreams? It's not even April yet!

[cougarjake13]

Why must you crush my dreams? It's not even April yet!

so you can get it out of the way early

[Knowledged_one]

Fear the Cincinnati Reds, and remember this name - Johnny Cueto.

Dont forget about Edison Volquez

[OGC]

It's almost the end of spring training and Joe Morgan STILL sucks on espn.

[TheMojoPin]

When does Joe Morgan ever NOT suck at being on TV?

[Kevin]

When does Joe Morgan ever NOT suck at being on TV?

Maybe if he got hit by a screaming liner?

[Snacks]

Fear the Cincinnati Reds, and remember this name - Johnny Cueto.

dont forget to look out for joey votto and if they are smart jay bruce. they have some young bats and pitchers, problem is dusty baker rather use average veterans rather thee use a prospect.

[Earlshog]

nl east philly
nl central milwaukee
nl west LA
wild card arizona

al east toronto
al central detroit
al west Angels
wildcard cleveland

[cougarjake13]

It's almost the end of spring training and Joe Morgan STILL sucks on espn.

like its ever gonna change

[Knowledged_one]

When does Joe Morgan ever NOT suck at being on TV?

When he's sitting next to Emmitt Smith on set

[Knowledged_one]

dont forget to look out for joey votto and if they are smart jay bruce. they have some young bats and pitchers, problem is dusty baker rather use average veterans rather thee use a prospect.

Yeah i cant believe they sent Jay Bruce down for Corey Patterson, they are saying its because they want speed at the top of the order and that only left Hopper and Patterson and they both play CF for them so. My question is, if they were going to do this with Jay Bruce (sign Patterson keep Hopper), why didnt they just make the trade with the Orioles for Bedard? The Orioles would have gotten a very similar package from the Reds then what they got from the Mariners (centerpiece Adam Jones).

And i will say that listening to the Reds games out here on 700 AM is pretty good when driving around, hes very good at keeping things entertaining

And Votto could have a monster year with Griffey, Dunn, Phillips all batting in front of him

[Towelie]

Corey Patterson sucks, but he did hit .455 this spring

Bruce only hit .262

He'll be up early for sure

[Bossanova]

Thank fucking god baseball is back. I don't even care that its the jerkoff Braves and Nats tonight. BASEBALL IS BACK!!!

[TheMojoPin]

THANK YOU, O GOD OF BASEBALL.

All praise be unto him.

[TheMojoPin]

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAAAAAAH!!!

Dodgers manager Joe Torre informed Juan Pierre that he'd begin the season on the bench.

Way to go, Joe. Of course, it took a huge spring disparity to make it happen, even though Andre Ethier was the better option in left field from the moment Andruw Jones was signed. Pierre hasn't demanded a trade, though he's clearly going to be unhappy to find himself on the bench. It's hard to blame him, considering he's the same player now that he was when the Dodgers gave him a five-year, $44 million contract. Mar. 30 - 3:55 pm et
Source: Los Angeles Daily News

Sit down, Slappy. God, Juan Pierre sucks.

[Tenbatsuzen]

That reporter has to check his facts. It's "New York Yankees manager" Joe Torre.

[Tenbatsuzen]

OK, I'm going to put this out there, and I'm not trying to be racist...

But does everyone notice in all the major sports, ESPN has an "integrated" studio crew? In NASCAR, they have a black guy, in MNF, they have a black guy, in baseball, they have a black guy, etc. etc.


I know kudos should be given to ESPN for this, but it also makes me think that it's one of the main reasons that Morgan has a job. For God's sake, they got rid of irvin for Keyshawn, SURELY there's a well-spoken mulatto former player who can usurp Morgan's position.

[cougarjake13]

OK, I'm going to put this out there, and I'm not trying to be racist...

But does everyone notice in all the major sports, ESPN has an "integrated" studio crew? In NASCAR, they have a black guy, in MNF, they have a black guy, in baseball, they have a black guy, etc. etc.


I know kudos should be given to ESPN for this, but it also makes me think that it's one of the main reasons that Morgan has a job. For God's sake, they got rid of irvin for Keyshawn, SURELY there's a well-spoken mulatto former player who can usurp Morgan's position.

well at least daughtery is or was a part owner in nascar so it makes some sense

[A.J.]

I know kudos should be given to ESPN for this, but it also makes me think that it's one of the main reasons that Morgan has a job. For God's sake, they got rid of irvin for Keyshawn, SURELY there's a well-spoken mulatto former player who can usurp Morgan's position.

?

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/richard_deitsch/10/10/gywnn.qa/p1_gwynn.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

?

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/richard_deitsch/10/10/gywnn.qa/p1_gwynn.jpg

Might be too fat + has too weird of a voice for an entire game. He's kinda high pitched.

[cougarjake13]

this stadium looks huge

[Fallon]

this stadium looks huge

That's Tony Gwynn.

[cougarjake13]

That's Tony Gwynn.

oh my bad

i saw the plaque and thought it was their version of monument park

[El Mudo]

Ah...dare be it to say it got a little dusty in the room with all the ceremonies tonight.

What a sight :clap::clap:

[K.C.]

Ryan Zimmerman....the guy is this close to breaking out into some major stardom....great job by the Nats (minus that disaster of an inning by Rauch).

[Bulldogcakes]

Yeah i cant believe they sent Jay Bruce down for Corey Patterson, they are saying its because they want speed at the top of the order and that only left Hopper and Patterson and they both play CF for them so.

Teams do that alot to lower their service time so they become free agents later than they would if they brought them up at the beginning of the year. The Rays are being accused of doing it with Evan Longoria as well. It sucks, but that's the system. The players certainly get even once they become free agents.

[spadanko]

Ryan Zimmerman....the guy is this close to breaking out into some major stardom....great job by the Nats (minus that disaster of an inning by Rauch).


Gonna be fun watching kids like Zimm, wright, reyes, utley, howard, and hanley for a long time in the NL east...

[TheMojoPin]

Kickass opening win by the Nats. I hope Zimmerman breaks out this year...he's been good since he came up. Nice looking stadium, too.

[K.C.]

Thank God Opening Day is here, boys.

I'll put the over/under at 8:58 AM for my first sip on a fine alcoholic beverage tomorrow...checking out Phils/Nats at Citizens Bank Park tomorrow.

Anyone else seeing some baseball up close and personal, tomorrow?

[jauble]

Not going to the game (as Im in Ohio) but I will be watching the Cubs game on HD tomorrow.

[TheMojoPin]

I'll be at the game...weather show they've likely got a 3 hour window from about 1 until 4, so hopefully they can squeeze it in. Temps pushing 60, which is nuts considering how cold it's been the last several years. Ernie Banks is having his statue dedicated and unveiled tomorrow, and he'll be tossing out the first pitch!

[jauble]

I'll be at the game...weather show they've likely got a 3 hour window from about 1 until 4, so hopefully they can squeeze it in. Temps pushing 60, which is nuts considering how cold it's been the last several years. Ernie Banks is having his statue dedicated and unveiled tomorrow, and he'll be tossing out the first pitch!

Have fun at that, I am jealous.

[TheMojoPin]

Buncha big time baseball greats gonna be there!

[Kit the Eskimo]

Thank God Opening Day is here, boys.

I'll put the over/under at 8:58 AM for my first sip on a fine alcoholic beverage tomorrow...checking out Phils/Nats at Citizens Bank Park tomorrow.

Anyone else seeing some baseball up close and personal, tomorrow?

I'm checking out the Mariners game here in Seattle tomorrow. But I'm more excited about my trip to DC in two weeks to see the Nats new ballpark.

/Let's Go Yankees!!!

[El Mudo]

Ryan Zimmerman....the guy is this close to breaking out into some major stardom....great job by the Nats (minus that disaster of an inning by Rauch).



I STILL think he got shafted when they gave Hanley Ramirez ROY over him a few years ago.


Zimmy's the only guy EVER to drive in 100 as a rookie and NOT win the award...

Ah...what a beautiful night!! :clap::clap::clap:


I NEVER thought I would see anything like this in my lifetime....its overwhelming...

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/25a8af3a-95f2-4499-b119-944a487bb216.jpg


http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/8358c9b0-48db-42a6-a9fa-1dae88cc681f.jpg

[K.C.]

I STILL think he got shafted when they gave Hanley Ramirez ROY over him a few years ago.


Ahhhhh....that's at tough one...I really like Zimmerman, too, and he had impressive numbers in the triple crown categories, but Ramirez scored over 100 runs, stole over 50 bases, hit like 45 doubles, close to 200 hits, and batted for higher average that year. Plus, he still hit 17 HRs from the lead-off spot.

That's pretty sharp.

[Snacks]

Ahhhhh....that's at tough one...I really like Zimmerman, too, and he had impressive numbers in the triple crown categories, but Ramirez scored over 100 runs, stole over 50 bases, hit like 45 doubles, close to 200 hits, and batted for higher average that year. Plus, he still hit 17 HRs from the lead-off spot.

That's pretty sharp.

i agree with you. i like zim but hanley is 1 of the top2,3 or 4 players in all of baseball. he (hanley)had a monster rookie year, zim only had 20 hr, batted 280. i dont think it was even close.

look at last year. i know it has nothing to do with rookie of the year but hanley had 29 hr's, 125 runs scored, 51 sb and batted .331.

[AKA]

Amazing fucking night. We got there butt-ass early just to soak it all up - went with my (now 22 year old) godson. I love the stadium and this team - moments before Ryan won it all, I had just finished saying that my favorite memory of the Nats was 2 years ago during the Yankees game when Zim got his first walk off hr to win it big. It was freakish last night.

We had zero problems with the metro, even switching trains at L'Enfant Plaza; cold as hell; huge open concorses, so if you are stuck in a food or bathroom line, you still can see into the stadium (even if you can't see the playing); I do hate the two above-ground parking garages, but i will give them credit in having them blend in as best they could; it's very cool that there are stands for Five Guys, Red Hot and Blue, Hard Times and (hell to the yeah) Ben's Chili Bowl (most of the hot dog stands have the "Bens" options too!); i spent way too much money, but it was THE first.

[A.J.]

it's very cool that there are stands for...Ben's Chili Bowl (most of the hot dog stands have the "Bens" options too!);

Now that's a nice touch. Five Guy's has gotten more famous with franchising but Ben's is DC's signature place (http://www.benschilibowl.com/).

[Snacks]

Amazing fucking night. We got there butt-ass early just to soak it all up - went with my (now 22 year old) godson. I love the stadium and this team - moments before Ryan won it all, I had just finished saying that my favorite memory of the Nats was 2 years ago during the Yankees game when Zim got his first walk off hr to win it big. It was freakish last night.

We had zero problems with the metro, even switching trains at L'Enfant Plaza; cold as hell; huge open concorses, so if you are stuck in a food or bathroom line, you still can see into the stadium (even if you can't see the playing); I do hate the two above-ground parking garages, but i will give them credit in having them blend in as best they could; it's very cool that there are stands for Five Guys, Red Hot and Blue, Hard Times and (hell to the yeah) Ben's Chili Bowl (most of the hot dog stands have the "Bens" options too!); i spent way too much money, but it was THE first.

i go down to dc 2-3 times a year. i have been to rfk when the nats played there and we took a train (DC's version of a subway i think) and it took us right to the stadium. it was the hottest sweatiest ride i have ever been on. anyway, i heard that the new stadium is much further away from the old stadium and that you have to drive to it. is this true? i usually stay somewhere in the heart of dc (k st, penn ave, 19th st etc) how would i get to the stadium and how long would it take?

[A.J.]

i go down to dc 2-3 times a year. i have been to rfk when the nats played there and we took a train (DC's version of a subway i think) and it took us right to the stadium. it was the hottest sweatiest ride i have ever been on. anyway, i heard that the new stadium is much further away from the old stadium and that you have to drive to it. is this true? i usually stay somewhere in the heart of dc (k st, penn ave, 19th st etc) how would i get to the stadium and how long would it take?

It's on the Navy Yard stop on the Green Line (RFK was the Stadium Armory stop on the Blue/Orange Line). If you stay downtown, you can switch over at L'Enfant Plaza.

Map and info here. (scroll to the Metrorail link at the bottom of the page) (http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/was/ballpark/directions.jsp)

[Snacks]

It's on the Navy Yard stop on the Green Line (RFK was the Stadium Armory stop on the Blue/Orange Line). If you stay downtown, you can switch over at L'Enfant Plaza.

Map and info here. (scroll to the Metrorail link at the bottom of the page) (http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/was/ballpark/directions.jsp)

thanks. i was hoping to still be able to take the train.

have you noticed that the train system is so fucking hot? do they have ac on the train? last time we went me, crippler and my friend were soaked with sweat once we got to rfk.

[TheMojoPin]

last time we went me, crippler and my friend were soaked with sweat once we got to rfk.

Yeah, yeah, blame it on the train and not the PASSION.

[A.J.]

I should have mentioned before that during rush hour in DC, particularly at downtown stops, the Metro trains are always packed with the great unwashed. It's not uncommon to have to wait to catch another train. The same thing is now going to happen on gameday. The beginning and end of the season could be problematic when you have overlap of Wizards/Caps games at the Verizon Center and Nats games at the Stadium. Metro Center (downtown) is going to be crazy.

The trains have AC but when they're packed like that, it's not noticeable. Now picture the middle of summer when it's hot, full of tourists, AND people going to the game.

If you time your trip right (either way early or cutting it close to the first pitch), it shouldn't be too bad.

[AKA]

The Navy Yard metro stop is MUCH closer to National's Park than the subway stop at RFK was. It feels like it's almost right on top of it, actually.

The Green Line intercuts with two major transfer stations - Gallery Place and L'Enfant Plaza - which connects the entire system together (Red, Orange, Blue and Yellow lines). The switchover at L'Enfant will take people some getting use to, but it went so smooth last night with us that i'd easily do it again.

There is free parking at RFK with free shuttle to the new stadium - supposedly that runs about 30 minutes. I loved the parking at RFK - huge lot, with a lot of tail gating. I'll miss that.

Five Guy's has gotten more famous with franchising

True, but no matter how big it gets, it did start here, and there was something about smelling those burgers in the stands that made me happy.

The line for Ben's was the biggest in the park, but like i said, it was pretty sweet that you could get the chili at most of the regular "Nat's Dogs" vendors.

[TheGameHHH]

Cabrera just went deep for Detroit, its starting already

[Kevin]

Where the hell did Cabrera lose all the weight?? He is HUGE!

And when a broadcaster goes, Oh OH, When a ball is hit, its not a good sign..

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Haw Haw, Glavine gets a no decision


the Braves Pen :lol:


losing 9-4 to the Pie Rats

[A.J.]

Eric Gagne still sucks.

[Kris10]

Soooo sweet was the Braves loss to the Pirates! May that be the first of many L's in their column!

[cougarjake13]

Soooo sweet was the Braves loss to the Pirates! May that be the first of many L's in their column!

one thing we can agree on

[cougarjake13]

Haw Haw, Glavine gets a no decision


the Braves Pen :lol:


losing 9-4 to the Pie Rats



love it
fuck that fucking fuck

[Bulldogcakes]

Q&A with Bill James (http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/01/bill-james-answers-all-your-baseball-questions/)


Good stuff.

[Ogre]

Hmmm...Washington Nationals 3-0. um 3-0 against the NL East. Hmm. Suck not as much as you think, we do. Hmmmm.

[outlawfrank]

Hmmm...Detroit 0-2, it's over their done.

[cougarjake13]

Hmmm...Washington Nationals 3-0. um 3-0 against the NL East. Hmm. Suck not as much as you think, we do. Hmmmm.

still 159 left to go

[K.C.]

HAHAHA...just saw this scroll across the ticker on ESPN and had a good laugh.

"Dodgers third base coach Larry Bowa suspended for three games for inappropriate and aggressive behavior vs. Giants on Monday."

Good old Larry!...the last truly crazy bastard left in baseball. Billy Martin would be proud.

[cougarjake13]

HAHAHA...just saw this scroll across the ticker on ESPN and had a good laugh.

"Dodgers third base coach Larry Bowa suspended for three games for inappropriate and aggressive behavior vs. Giants on Monday."

Good old Larry!...the last truly crazy bastard left in baseball. Billy Martin would be proud.



yeh all b/c he was standing too close

i say fuck it if he wants to stand there, let him

[K.C.]

yeh all b/c he was standing too close

i say fuck it if he wants to stand there, let him

He's pissed to say the least:


Bowa was tossed in the sixth inning against the San Francisco Giants by umpire Ed Montague, who had told him to keep within the boundaries of the coaching box. Bob Watson, baseball's vice president in charge of discipline, cited Bowa for "inappropriate and aggressive conduct," which included making contact with Montague several times.

"It's ludicrous is what it is. Probably the suspension's more ludicrous than the rule," Bowa said before Wednesday night's game. "There's no due process. For getting kicked out of the game, you get a three-game suspension. It's totally uncalled for. I have no idea why. You have to ask the people in New York that wear the coats and ties and don't get on the field.

"You've got guys who tested positive for steroids and admitted they took them -- no suspensions. They're still playing," Bowa said.

The very least Bowa expected from Watson after his ruling was an explanation.

"I got a fine, which I expected. But I don't even know what the fine is, to be honest with you," Bowa said. "I left a voicemail, and obviously I knew I wouldn't get a return call from him. They don't want to hear the coach's side of the story."

Bowa is convinced that Watson is trying to make an example out of him.

"He's done it since I've been out of baseball as a player -- as a coach and as a manager. That's his gig. He wants to get me any way he can get me," Bowa said. "Bob Watson's very prejudiced against me for some reason."

[TheMojoPin]

HAHAHA...just saw this scroll across the ticker on ESPN and had a good laugh.

"Dodgers third base coach Larry Bowa suspended for three games for inappropriate and aggressive behavior vs. Giants on Monday."

Good old Larry!...the last truly crazy bastard left in baseball. Billy Martin would be proud.

One of the best crazies...and helpful with the hand gestures, too!

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[AKA]

Hmmm...Washington Nationals 3-0. um 3-0 against the NL East. Hmm. Suck not as much as you think, we do. Hmmmm.

http://www.readexpress.com/read_freeride/photos/20080330-nats30centergate.jpg

[spadanko]

Interesting stuff in Cincy

not any more... Upton ends Cueto's perfect game in the 6th

[underdog]

Fear the Cincinnati Reds, and remember this name - Johnny Cueto.

Interesting stuff in Cincy

not any more... Upton ends Cueto's perfect game in the 6th

Shhh... you're going to make Gvac's head bigger.

[spadanko]

Cueto is going to be a monster as is Volsquez... watch out for the reds on the sneak this season

[King Hippos Bandaid]

1 inning away from a Royal Sweep


picked up Greinke when Pedro got hurt

7 Strong Innings

These Royals may win 80 games

[Ogre]

still 159 left to go

Way to go Jinxy Jinxerton. 5 run lead blown. Walk in the winner in extra frames. That's the Nats I have come to know and love.

[cougarjake13]

Way to go Jinxy Jinxerton. 5 run lead blown. Walk in the winner in extra frames. That's the Nats I have come to know and love.

law of averages my friend

[jonyrotn]

Cueto's perfect game in the 6th

Cueto is going to be a monster... watch out for the reds
I watched alot of this game an I was impressed, However, I think his fast ball is way to straight..There didn't seem to be much action on it..A straight fast ball in the majors is only gonna get you so far just ask Steve Dalkowski..

[TheMojoPin]

Everyone join in! (http://www.rickrollthemets.com/)

[cougarjake13]

Everyone join in! (http://www.rickrollthemets.com/)

move along nothing to see here

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I just stopped my order for Royals Post Season Tickets

[cougarjake13]

I just stopped my order for Royals Post Season Tickets



wise choice

[King Hippos Bandaid]

wise choice

I just ordered Orioles post season tickets

this is the 1 week, that Mikeyboy can brag about his team

[cougarjake13]

I just ordered Orioles post season tickets

this is the 1 week, that Mikeyboy can brag about his team

you 'd have a better chance at rays post season tix

[TheMojoPin]

Everyone join in! (http://www.rickrollthemets.com/)

VOTE!!! Often and early, dammit!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

you 'd have a better chance at rays post season tix

I am not gonna joke about the Rays

I like their talent and the direction that the team is going

[cougarjake13]

I am not gonna joke about the Rays

I like their talent and the direction that the team is going

yeh im actually not embarrassed to go to a rays game

[cougarjake13]

griffey jr 6 homers away from the 600 homer club

[bobsnin]

griffey jr 6 homers away from the 600 homer club

He'll break his acl or tear his femur soon. trust me.

[Kris10]

He'll break his acl or tear his femur soon. trust me.

Hmm, what are the odds?? I may want to bet on this.

[cougarjake13]

it'll happen right after homer 599

[bobsnin]

Hmm, what are the odds?? I may want to bet on this.

I've been burnt by the Reds too many times, so I can't bet either way.

[Kris10]

I've been burnt by the Reds too many times, so I can't bet either way.

ya but you beat the shit out of us today... & I'm use to getting burnt as well, you know who my team is....

[Doctor Z]

He'll break his acl or tear his femur soon. trust me.

...anybody else catch this?

[bobsnin]

...anybody else catch this?

"It's a joke."

[bobsnin]

ya but you beat the shit out of us today... & I'm use to getting burnt as well, you know who my team is....

Lets hope for a Reds-Phills NLCS.

[Kris10]

Lets hope for a Reds-Phills NLCS.

That'll be the day...one could hope.

[Doctor Z]

"It's a joke."

Well played.

[Kris10]

...anybody else catch this?

lol thats why I was asking the odds

[bobsnin]

That'll be the day...one could hope.

Its going to happen. Meet me in October.

[cougarjake13]

Its going to happen. Meet me in October.

you know that mlb the show is just a video game right ???

[Da Fish]

I hope the fish can pull out a .500 season. SP will be the key.

[bobsnin]

you that mlb the show is just a video game right ???

Proofreed you writing.

[TheMojoPin]

Everyone join in! (http://www.rickrollthemets.com/)

Don't forget about this!

[bobsnin]

I hope the fish can pull out a .500 season. SP will be the key.

Steve Philips? Is he rumored to take over the GM position?

[Da Fish]

Steve Philips? Is he rumored to take over the GM position?

They just got a new GM before the season.

[cougarjake13]

Proofreed you writing.

done

[bobsnin]

My friend, did you make it to Pt St Lucie for any spring training games?

[Doctor Z]

Enjoy it while it lasts, Baltimore fan(s).

http://www.gotmelk.com/uploads/orioles.jpg

[TheGameHHH]

this was hilarious, i found it on Page 2......rejected t-shirt ideas

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0407/pg2_aleast.jpg

[cougarjake13]

My friend, did you make it to Pt St Lucie for any spring training games?

a few

plus i went to winter haven to see them play the indians, and at disney to play the braves

[Da Fish]

I see a lot of people are live florida. Are any of you born in FL. I myself was born and raised in Florida.

Why no love for FL teams in this thread?

[cougarjake13]

I see a lot of people are live florida. Are any of you born in FL. I myself was born and raised in Florida.

Why no love for FL teams in this thread?

not born in florida

born in staten island and lived there til 26

[Da Fish]

not born in florida

born in staten island and lived there til 26


I've always wondered what the draw was to Florida for New Yorkers. They always find their way here.

[cougarjake13]

I've always wondered what the draw was to Florida for New Yorkers. They always find their way here.

for me it was the job and at the time cheaper cost of living

[Bulldogcakes]

If we have any Tigers fans out there, your magic number for playoff elimination is down to 151.

[Da Fish]

If we have any Tigers fans out there, your magic number for playoff elimination is down to 151.

152 according to mlb.

[Knowledged_one]

is there any better time waster at work then daytime baseball?

With fantasy guys playing it makes my day go by so fast

[Epschtein]

apparently there is some sort of celebration going on at fenway park, more news as details come in...

;)

[Epschtein]

sweetness - billy buckner get a HUGE ovation and throws out the first pitch at the sox home opener, great moment...

[K.C.]

If Detroit gets swept by the Sox and goes 0-9, can we officially write them off?

The baseball logic in me says absolutely not...but how the hell do you start 0-9 and come back from that?? Especially in the AL.

[Bossanova]

If Detroit gets swept by the Sox and goes 0-9, can we officially write them off?

The baseball logic in me says absolutely not...but how the hell do you start 0-9 and come back from that?? Especially in the AL.

Tim McCarver said Sat that no team went 0-4 to start the season and won the WS, so yes we can write them off

[Knowledged_one]

If Detroit gets swept by the Sox and goes 0-9, can we officially write them off?

The baseball logic in me says absolutely not...but how the hell do you start 0-9 and come back from that?? Especially in the AL.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

[K.C.]

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Boone: Germans?

[Knowledged_one]

Boone: Germans?

Shhhhhh, I'm on a roll

[cougarjake13]

If Detroit gets swept by the Sox and goes 0-9, can we officially write them off?

The baseball logic in me says absolutely not...but how the hell do you start 0-9 and come back from that?? Especially in the AL.



by going 18 -2 over the next 20 games

[cougarjake13]

mlb.com is showing randy johnsons season debut for free tonight at 1015 pm

[Repent13]

this padres vs rockies game just won't end

1-1 in the top of the 20th

[TheMojoPin]

Hey, ESPN.

Not everyone gives a shit about Joba Chamberlain. Plenty of teams have lights out young relievers. Just because this one is fat, has a weird name and is a Yankee doesn't make him any more remarkable or newsworthy.

[Knowledged_one]

Hey, ESPN.

Not everyone gives a shit about Joba Chamberlain. Plenty of teams have lights out young relievers. Just because this one is fat, has a weird name and is a Yankee doesn't make him any more remarkable or newsworthy.

I think you can expect a kneecapping from Orestes Estrada

[Da Fish]

Hey, ESPN.

Not everyone gives a shit about Joba Chamberlain. Plenty of teams have lights out young relievers. Just because this one is fat, has a weird name and is a Yankee doesn't make him any more remarkable or newsworthy.

I feel that way about Yankees as well as the Red Sox and Mets.

[IMSlacker]

Hey, ESPN.

Not everyone gives a shit about Joba Chamberlain. Plenty of teams have lights out young relievers. Just because this one is fat, has a weird name and is a Yankee doesn't make him any more remarkable or newsworthy.

Even during a Cubs/Mets game, apparently, there's not enough Cubs/Mets stuff to talk about. They had to take a half-inning to discuss the Joba Chamberlain situation. Assholes.

[cougarjake13]

Even during a Cubs/Mets game, apparently, there's not enough Cubs/Mets stuff to talk about. They had to take a half-inning to discuss the Joba Chamberlain situation. Assholes.

fuck joba and fuck espn

[K.C.]

fuck joba and fuck espn

I think we can all come together around that statement.

[K.C.]

I feel that way about Yankees as well as the Red Sox and Mets.

Fish are playing good ball...how's it feel to be one of four Marlins fans that knows their in first?

[Da Fish]

Fish are playing good ball...how's it feel to be one of four Marlins fans that knows their in first?

Go to Marlinsbaseball.com. There are plenty of us.:bye:

[jauble]

Go to Marlinsbaseball.com. There are plenty of us.:bye:

Thats probably a link to third tier board.

[K.C.]

Go to Marlinsbaseball.com. There are plenty of us.:bye:

There should be....two world series in the past decade, and consistently the best minor league system in baseball.

It's a travesty that so few people in Miami support that team. And I don't really buy that it'll be dramatically different when they get the new stadium.

[Da Fish]

There should be....two world series in the past decade, and consistently the best minor league system in baseball.

It's a travesty that so few people in Miami support that team. And I don't really buy that it'll be dramatically different when they get the new stadium.

They have good tv and radio ratings. People just don't go to the games.

[cougarjake13]

They have good tv and radio ratings. People just don't go to the games.

will it change with the new stadium ???

[Da Fish]

will it change with the new stadium ???

Who knows...I hope so.

The fans always complain about the heat, rain games, bad angles, locatation, etc. Hopefully the new stadium will stop all the excuses.

[TheMojoPin]

Who knows...I hope so.

The fans always complain about the heat, rain games, bad angles, locatation, etc. Hopefully the new stadium will stop all the excuses.

I think you'd see a huge difference. The current stadium is out of the way and brutal to sit in for 3+ hours in the Florida weather.

[K.C.]

Who knows...I hope so.

The fans always complain about the heat, rain games, bad angles, locatation, etc. Hopefully the new stadium will stop all the excuses.

But....but....they have the Manatees this year!!

[Da Fish]

But....but....they have the Manatees this year!!

Those guys are awesome:thumbup:

[scottinnj]

Congrats to Smoltz for 3000 Ks. That is all.

The rest of the Braves can still eat shit.

[jauble]

I hate television and its lack of baseball coverage. I wish I could afford an mlb account or my damn inno would work.

[TheGameHHH]

and here come the Tigers..........

[K.C.]

Anyone see the humor in the fact that A-Rod makes more than the Marlins, and the Marlins are playing better ball than the Yanks?

[cougarjake13]

Anyone see the humor in the fact that A-Rod makes more than the Marlins, and the Marlins are playing better ball than the Yanks?

i love it

unfortunately it wont last

[K.C.]

i love it

unfortunately it wont last

Oh, of course not...which is why I wanted to get the jab in now.

[Da Fish]

i love it

unfortunately it wont last

At least the Yankees aren't going to the WS.:lol:

[A.J.]

Well, I finally went to my first Nats game at the new stadium last night. Very impressive place. We started out in the right field upper deck near the foul pole then, later in the game, managed to get into the left seats right behind Wily Mo Pena. Honestly, I'd be happy watching the game from the standing room only seats on the terraces in the outfield.

The only bad thing was that the concessions are incredibly slow.

[Bulldogcakes]

Twins send struggling Liriano to minors (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=mlb/news/newstest.aspx?id=4146514)

The Minnesota Twins sent struggling pitcher Francisco Liriano to Triple-A Rochester on Friday.

Liriano missed the entire 2007 season after undergoing "Tommy John" surgery and is 0-3 with an 11.32 earned run average in three starts this season.

In 2006 before the injury, Liriano was one of the best pitchers in baseball, posting a record of 12-3 with a 2.16 earned run average. His move into the starting rotation that season helped the Twins turn their season around and capture the AL Central title.

Amazing. From one of the best pitchers in baseball to TJ surgery to the minors. What a (not so) long, strange trip it's been.

[cougarjake13]

Twins send struggling Liriano to minors (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=mlb/news/newstest.aspx?id=4146514)



Amazing. From one of the best pitchers in baseball to TJ surgery to the minors. What a (not so) long, strange trip it's been.


betcha they wish they maybe held onto johan

[cougarjake13]

i havent heard anything about this until i stumbled across it today on fox sports

according to article it will be available to both cable and direct tv


MLB NETWORK (http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/04/petitti_confirmed_as_president.php)

[TheMojoPin]

Well, it's the end of a REALLY long era:

Julio Franco finally called it quits.

The 49-year-old announced his retirement from baseball after a 23-year career in the major leagues and stints in his native Dominican Republic, South Korea, Japan and Mexico. In 2007, he became the oldest player to hit a home run in the majors.

"It was the hardest decision in my life," Franco said in an interview published Saturday by Mexican sports daily Record. "I always said I would be the first one to know the exact moment. I think the numbers speak for themselves, the production speaks and this is the right moment.

"I understand that my time has passed and the great men and athletes know when to say enough." (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=3379845)

Here's all the teams he played on:

Butte Copper Kings
Central Oregon Phillies
Peninsula Pilots
Oklahoma City 89ers
Philadelphia Phillies
Cleveland Indians
Texas Rangers
Chicago White Sox
Chiba Lotte Marines
Milwaukee Brewers
Tampa Bay Devil Rays
Samsung Lions
Angelopolis Tigers
Atlanta Braves
Rome Braves
Richmond Braves
New York Mets
Quintana Roo Tigers

[cougarjake13]

Well, it's the end of a REALLY long era:



Here's all the teams he played on:

Butte Copper Kings
Central Oregon Phillies
Peninsula Pilots
Oklahoma City 89ers
Philadelphia Phillies
Cleveland Indians
Texas Rangers
Chicago White Sox
Chiba Lotte Marines
Milwaukee Brewers
Tampa Bay Devil Rays
Samsung Lions
Angelopolis Tigers
Atlanta Braves
Rome Braves
Richmond Braves
New York Mets
Quintana Roo Tigers

i was rooting for him to get to 50 yrs old and still playing

[jauble]

http://www.wmur.com/news/16163408/detail.html

Fantastic fans out there.

[Bulldogcakes]

http://www.wmur.com/news/16163408/detail.html

Fantastic fans out there.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0505/mlb_a_hernandez_200.jpg

I'd fuck her. I've always had a thing for band aids.

[cougarjake13]

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0505/mlb_a_hernandez_200.jpg

I'd fuck her. I've always had a thing for band aids.

no thanks

[Epschtein]

gavin floyd of the white sox has a no-hitter going, espn should pick it up soon, its in the bottom of the 8th now.

[cougarjake13]

well now since you jinxed it they wont

[Epschtein]

yes, clearly this post will have some magical effect on the actual game taking place 1500 miles away. :P its only a jinx if its your team anyway.

[Bulldogcakes]

This is what blow up dolls in the clubhouse can do for a baseball team.

[midwestjeff]

It's on XM 182.

[Kevin]

yes, clearly this post will have some magical effect on the actual game taking place 1500 miles away. :P its only a jinx if its your team anyway.

Obviously you have not seen the Hippo effect.

[cougarjake13]

yes, clearly this post will have some magical effect on the actual game taking place 1500 miles away. :P its only a jinx if its your team anyway.

how many times have you seen an announce crew not mention the no-no and when they finally do, it ends within a few at bats

[hammersavage]

haha, fuck the phillies.

[cougarjake13]

what team has had the most no-'s thrown against them

[K.C.]

haha, fuck the phillies.

why? We're winning 2-1.

Fuck Gavin Floyd. His team won't be in the playoffs this year.

[Marc with a c]

fart

[cougarjake13]

and there you go epstein