Overrated Rivalries?

[jauble]

Today is the Ohio State-Michigan game. I go to a small liberal arts school in Ohio so I am quite exposed to this rivalry and not being connected to either team I find this whole rivalry a bit much. What is the most overrated rivalry?

[cougarjake13]

yankees- red sox


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[JimBeam]

Just one that comes to mind immediately is Bama/Tenn.

3rd Saturday in October this honkus.

Not nearly as " juicey " as Bama/LSU or Bama/Auburn.

Maybe when Peyton was there but I now look forward to this game as much as I do Ole Miss/UGA or any other random SEC matchup.

[Crispy123]

chocolate and peanut butter

[TheMojoPin]

yankees- red sox


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Seriously, how is it overrated? Overcovered, maybe, but that is one of the most genuine and emotional and longest-lasting rivalries in pro sports.

[A.J.]

The last time this rivalry mattered, the Cubs were a World Series dynasty.

http://www2.aya.yale.edu/clubs/japan/images/thegame1876.jpg

[Judge Smails]

Sharks vs Jets

[King Hippos Bandaid]

The last time this rivalry mattered, the Cubs were a World Series dynasty.

http://www2.aya.yale.edu/clubs/japan/images/thegame1876.jpg

QFT

Was my choice

the only heated rivalry between Harvard and Yale is Chess

:king:

[cougarjake13]

Seriously, how is it overrated? Overcovered, maybe, but that is one of the most genuine and emotional and longest-lasting rivalries in pro sports.

over rated b/c they make reg season matchups like they are game 7 of the ALCS

[ralphbxny]

Wackbag v FBA

[JimBeam]

To Cougar's point I think it's more of a regional thing.

People out West and in the South, that aren't a fan of either team, couldn't give a shit about that series.

Like the World Series with the Yanks and Mets that whole Suway Series didn't make sense to anybody that wasn't from a place that had a subway.

I'm sure some of the West Coast series mean a lot to the folks out there but wouldnt mean crap to any of us back east.

It's kinda like a self fulfilling prophecy.

MLB and televevision continuoulsy show that matchup and it leads people to believe that it might be one of the bigger rivalries but is it really any bigger than some others ?

[EliSnow]

QFT

Was my choice

the only heated rivalry between Harvard and Yale is Chess

:king:

As a former player for Yale, I can say that the Game is a heated rivalry for those schools. It is important for the rest of the world? No, because these teams won't be in NCAA championship picture anymore. But to say that the rivalry between the two isn't heated, is completely ignorant. The Game was the most important part of any season, and a great event for the schools.

Yes, it's not what it once was, but as shown by 60k showing up today, it's still pretty big for those schools.

[jauble]

I do think that because of the amount of fans outside of the Boston New York area (bandwagon or otherwise) the red sox/yankee rivalry is a big one. It may be the arrogance of some of the fans and/or players on both sides that makes people outside of the rivalry despise it. For the record Im a cubs fan so I don't really participate in this rivalry but I can appreciate it.

[A.J.]

As a former player for Yale, I can say that the Game is a heated rivalry for those schools. It is important for the rest of the world? No, because these teams won't be in NCAA championship picture anymore. But to say that the rivalry between the two isn't heated, is completely ignorant. The Game was the most important part of any season, and a great event for the schools.

Yes, it's not what it once was, but as shown by 60k showing up today, it's still pretty big for those schools.

Oh, I was just making a slight goof, that's all. Having grown up outside of New Haven, I know how big that game is. Just as I work for the Navy, I know how big the Army-Navy game is. Sure, they're not vying for a national championship but the history and tradition are as compelling as any other rivalry - if not moreso.

http://www.junkyville.net/content/multimedia/framegrabs/4F05/large/13.jpg

[EliSnow]

Oh, I was just making a slight goof, that's all. Having grown up outside of New Haven, I know how big that game is. Just as I work for the Navy, I know how big the Army-Navy game is. Sure, they're not vying for a national championship but the history and tradition are as compelling as any other rivalry - if not moreso.

I was reacting to Hippo's comments that this rivalry wasn't heated, except for chess.

I really didn't have that much of a problem with your comments, because the rivalry hasn't mattered to the rest of the college football world since the 1920's (Yale won its last football championship in 1927). But that doesn't mean it's not a heated rivalry for those schools.

Plus, since these schools' alumni rule the world (see Jezo's latest thread), you all would be wise not to say otherwise. :tongue:

[jauble]

on a side/related note does anyone think that Loyd Carr is going to hang it up after this one?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I was reacting to Hippo's comments that this rivalry wasn't heated, except for chess.

I really didn't have that much of a problem with your comments, because the rivalry hasn't mattered to the rest of the college football world since the 1920's (Yale won its last football championship in 1927). But that doesn't mean it's not a heated rivalry for those schools.

Plus, since these schools' alumni rule the world (see Jezo's latest thread), you all would be wise not to say otherwise. :tongue:

I apologize, I was just being mean, mainly because of Jealousy

:king:

[cougarjake13]

on a side/related note does anyone think that Loyd Carr is going to hang it up after this one?

well i remembering hearing a few days ago that he was gonna retire after the season

[EliSnow]

I apologize, I was just being mean, mainly because of Jealousy

:king:

Eh, I'm just touchy right now because Harvard is kicking our ass.

So all is forgiven.

[donnie_darko]

maggie and that baby with one eyebrow.

[BMoses]

Fez vs Big A

[Ritalin]

yankees- red sox


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http://www.p-q.com/trinity/images/Church.jpg

[Ritalin]

As a former player for Yale, I can say that the Game is a heated rivalry for those schools. It is important for the rest of the world? No, because these teams won't be in NCAA championship picture anymore. But to say that the rivalry between the two isn't heated, is completely ignorant. The Game was the most important part of any season, and a great event for the schools.

Yes, it's not what it once was, but as shown by 60k showing up today, it's still pretty big for those schools.

is Eli
http://images.footballfanatics.com/productImages/_127000/FF_127626_l.jpg

[Ritalin]

As a former player for Yale, I can say that the Game is a heated rivalry for those schools. It is important for the rest of the world? No, because these teams won't be in NCAA championship picture anymore. But to say that the rivalry between the two isn't heated, is completely ignorant. The Game was the most important part of any season, and a great event for the schools.

Yes, it's not what it once was, but as shown by 60k showing up today, it's still pretty big for those schools.

Or is Eli:

http://www.pkwy.k12.mo.us/unique/images/StonePhillips.jpg

[Ritalin]

As a former player for Yale, I can say that the Game is a heated rivalry for those schools. It is important for the rest of the world? No, because these teams won't be in NCAA championship picture anymore. But to say that the rivalry between the two isn't heated, is completely ignorant. The Game was the most important part of any season, and a great event for the schools.

Yes, it's not what it once was, but as shown by 60k showing up today, it's still pretty big for those schools.

or is Eli:

http://img.search.com/thumb/d/d5/Ruth_Bader_Ginsburg_official_portrait.jpg/250px-Ruth_Bader_Ginsburg_official_portrait.jpg

edit: goddamn buttons.

[Ritalin]

As a former player for Yale, I can say that the Game is a heated rivalry for those schools. It is important for the rest of the world? No, because these teams won't be in NCAA championship picture anymore. But to say that the rivalry between the two isn't heated, is completely ignorant. The Game was the most important part of any season, and a great event for the schools.

Yes, it's not what it once was, but as shown by 60k showing up today, it's still pretty big for those schools.

or is Eli:

http://img.search.com/thumb/d/d5/Ruth_Bader_Ginsburg_official_portrait.jpg/250px-Ruth_Bader_Ginsburg_official_portrait.jpg

[sailor]

I do think that because of the amount of fans outside of the Boston New York area (bandwagon or otherwise) the red sox/yankee rivalry is a big one. It may be the arrogance of some of the fans and/or players on both sides that makes people outside of the rivalry despise it. For the record Im a cubs fan so I don't really participate in this rivalry but I can appreciate it.

but what rivalry is ever really cared about by anyone other than the fans of the two teams? and given how large the national fan-bases of both teams are...it's obviously the most cared about rivalry in this country.

[Kevin]

over rated b/c they make reg season matchups like they are game 7 of the ALCS

isn't that one of the main criteria s for a rivalry??? Make ANY game seem important??

[Bulldogcakes]

Whopper vs Big Mac

[sailor]

Whopper vs Big Mac

whopper pwns big mac.

[Snoogans]

the best rivalry going in sports right now is the New Yorks Knicks vs an all you can eat buffet

[King Hippos Bandaid]

whopper pwns big mac.

QFT

Whopper knocks the Big Mac out in the 1st Round

:king:

[TheMojoPin]

QFT

Whopper knocks the Big Mac in the 1st Round

:king:

General quality in terms of fast food, yes, Whopper owns...but I more often get the craving for the weird taste of a Big Mac.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

General quality in terms of fast food, yes, Whopper owns...but I more often get the craving for the weird taste of a Big Mac.

When i used to smoke up , i had Big Mac Cravings all the time, do you remember the Big King, that was better burgers with their "special sauce" That pwned the Big Mac, but couldnt catch on



But with FIVEGUYS, who cares about Burger King or Macdowells......


:king:

[sailor]

When i used to smoke up , i had Big Mac Cravings all the time, do you remember the Big King, that was better burgers with their "special sauce" That pwned the Big Mac, but couldnt catch on



But with FIVEGUYS, who cares about Burger King or Macdowells......


:king:

i don't know, i found the big king burger to be lacking for some reason.

[Snoogans]

the Arch Deluxe was the shit. They got rid of that and the mcrib, now it's stricktly breakfast only at McD's

[King Hippos Bandaid]

the Arch Deluxe was the shit. They got rid of that and the mcrib, now it's stricktly breakfast only at McD's

fucking loved the Arch Deluxe

I still crave that Peppercorn Bacon

I used to have them add that Bacon to the Mcmuffin for Breakfast

:king:

[ChimneyFish]

Upper Merion Vikings vs Norristown Eagles.

[Bossanova]

QFT

Whopper knocks the Big Mac out in the 1st Round

:king:

As of 11:16 on Sunday morning. Burger King announces that they have pulled the Whopper from its menu

[Snoogans]

Hahahahahahahahaha

[sailor]

the Arch Deluxe was the shit. They got rid of that and the mcrib, now it's stricktly breakfast only at McD's

mcdonald's has by far the worst breakfast. burger king breakfast croissants destroy anything on the mcdonald's menu.

[SonicAssault]

baseball rivalries are ok but you have to have some physical confrontations to really heat up a rivalry. Football comes close but nothing comes close to a good hockey rivalry. Detroit/Colorado. Devils/Rangers. Calgary/Edmonton. And my personal favorite Flyers/Raners.

[Snoogans]

mcdonald's has by far the worst breakfast. burger king breakfast croissants destroy anything on the mcdonald's menu.

you are fuckin insane. First off all, those little hockey puck excuses for hashbrowns are fuckin horrible. The ONLY good thing at BK breakfast is french toast sticks. BACON EGG AND CHEESE BISCUITS DOMINATE

[sailor]

you are fuckin insane. First off all, those little hockey puck excuses for hashbrowns are fuckin horrible. The ONLY good thing at BK breakfast is french toast sticks. BACON EGG AND CHEESE BISCUITS DOMINATE

dry ass biscuits and vile eggs. i've never had a worse egg than at every mcdonald's i've ever been to.

[TheMojoPin]

the Arch Deluxe was the shit. They got rid of that and the mcrib, now it's stricktly breakfast only at McD's

Hah, the McRib is back here.

The only serious craving I still get fats food-wise is for a case of White Castle cheeseburgers.

[Snoogans]

white castle rules, but seriously. Overnight me some fuckin McRibs bitch

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Hah, the McRib is back here.

damn you, first you have Sonics, now the Mcrib




as far as Breakfast, Burger King is Better

but I do like the McMuffin even though its processed crap

:king:

[sailor]

damn you, first you have Sonics, now the Mcrib




as far as Breakfast, Burger King is Better

but I do like the McMuffin even though its processed crap

:king:

fuck sonic and their commercials. i saw one that made me want to run out right away and philly was the nearest one. never had a mcrib, they scared the fuck out of me.

[Snoogans]

fuck sonic and their commercials. i saw one that made me want to run out right away and philly was the nearest one. never had a mcrib, they scared the fuck out of me.

yes you have, its the exact same thing as the boneless rib sandwich in your HS cafeteria

[sailor]

yes you have, its the exact same thing as the boneless rib sandwich in your HS cafeteria

i don't think we had those. granted, i usually just had a blt there.

[TheMojoPin]

The McRib is fucking awful. I don't know if they put something in it that makes certain people get hooked on them like crack, but it is truly one of the most revolting things I've had from McDonald's and that's saying something.

[Snoogans]

The McRib is fucking awful. I don't know if they put something in it that makes certain people get hooked on them like crack, but it is truly one of the most revolting things I've had from McDonald's and that's saying something.

good, you dont have to eat them. JUST SEND ME A FEW DAMMIT

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I know the Mcrib diddn't taste good, but it was a pot special for me, and only a buck

fucking Sonic commercials run all the time on Dircect TV

Whats wrong with NY/NJ, one fucking Sonic please

also some more Arbys

:king:

[Snoogans]

I know the Mcrib diddn't taste good, but it was a pot special for me, and only a buck

fucking Sonic commercials run all the time on Dircect TV

Whats wrong with NY/NJ, one fucking Sonic please

also some more Arbys

:king:

arby's sucks if you have a sonic. I went to one in Virginia and it fuckin rules. I don't see how this hasn't caught on here

[led37zep]

baseball rivalries are ok but you have to have some physical confrontations to really heat up a rivalry. Football comes close but nothing comes close to a good hockey rivalry. Detroit/Colorado. Devils/Rangers. Calgary/Edmonton. And my personal favorite Flyers/Raners.

I just can't imagine the pros take professional sports rivalries seriously. With free agency and players going from one rival to another (Johnny Damon BOS-NYY comes to mind) it pretty much becomes something for the fans to talk, bitch, and dwell on. Back in the day the professional players were the ones involved in the rivalries. Hell, Jackie Robinson retired than play for the Giants! He hated them that much, thats what a rivalry is. The difference is, I hate the Dodgers with a passion, but I can't image Matt Cain, Rich Aurilla, or Bruce Bochy feel the same way.

The real rivalry lies in college sports. Players and fans are attached to that school and will be for the rest of their lives. In Oregon the two key games all year (no matter how awful the season) is to beat Washington and Oregon State. ESPECIALLY Oregon State. The players know it, the coaches know it, and the fans live for it. Joey Harrington cared about beating Oregon State, do you think TO even knows who Dallas considers a rival?

[TheMojoPin]

Some players clearly take the rivalries seriously. The Cubs and Cardinals have always been like that...there's always multiple guys on both sides who are very vocal about their dislike of the other team/stadium/city/etc..

Cubs and White Sox, too.

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/bbw/_photos/2006-05-31-barrett.jpg

[King Hippos Bandaid]

arby's sucks if you have a sonic. I went to one in Virginia and it fuckin rules. I don't see how this hasn't caught on here


had Sonic once in Chicago Area

was too drunk to enjoy it

Hey Mcdonalds , BurgerKing its called creativity, Sonic atleast tries

Checkers tries a lil, but is generic at best

:king:

[K.C.]

Delaware vs. Delaware State...


...oh...ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, right

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/070920&sportCat=ncf

[ChimneyFish]

as far as Breakfast, Burger King is Better



:blink:








There is no tastier breakfast food than McD's hotcakes and sausage in the known universe.
It's just a simple scientific fact.

[ChimneyFish]

Delaware vs. Delaware State...


...oh...ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, right

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/070920&sportCat=ncf

Had no idea about this.

So stupid.(and DSU isn't a "black school". Their kicker's white.):smoke:

[underdog]

mcdonald's has by far the worst breakfast. burger king breakfast croissants destroy anything on the mcdonald's menu.

I've never seen a more wrong statement in my life.

McGriddles own everything.

[Snoogans]

I've never seen a more wrong statement in my life.

McGriddles own everything.

this is an informed post

[sailor]

I've never seen a more wrong statement in my life.

McGriddles own everything.

i took one bite of a mcgriddle once and almost puked.

[underdog]

i took one bite of a mcgriddle once and almost puked.

Too much delicious flavor?

[sailor]

Too much delicious flavor?

precisely.

[jauble]

Some players clearly take the rivalries seriously. The Cubs and Cardinals have always been like that...there's always multiple guys on both sides who are very vocal about their dislike of the other team/stadium/city/etc..

Cubs and White Sox, too.

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/bbw/_photos/2006-05-31-barrett.jpg

I loved Barrett from that point on. I was a little sad to see him go because he was into being a cub, but things change and you have to keep moving. How do you feel about Soto coming up?

[TheMojoPin]

I loved Barrett from that point on. I was a little sad to see him go because he was into being a cub, but things change and you have to keep moving. How do you feel about Soto coming up?

I had been clamoring for Soto to get more starts as soon as Barrett was gone. Most Cubs fans that paid any attention to the minors were, too, which just made it even more frustrating!

I wonder why Barrett fell off so dramatically with his bat this year. He stunk it up with the Padres, too. I hear the Rockies are interested in him, so maybe that'll help pick his numbers up again.

[cougarjake13]

I've never seen a more wrong statement in my life.

McGriddles own everything.

yeh they own my ass in the bathroom every time i eat them

[K.C.]

Had no idea about this.

So stupid.(and DSU isn't a "black school". Their kicker's white.):smoke:

Well, apparently the NCAA fixed it for them...they matched up UD and DSU in the I-AA playoffs.

So for the first time ever, Delaware vs. Del State this week...I shall be in attendence.

Delaware should probably kill Del State, but it should be interesting.

[cougarjake13]

Well, apparently the NCAA fixed it for them...they matched up UD and DSU in the I-AA playoffs.

So for the first time ever, Delaware vs. Del State this week...I shall be in attendence.

Delaware should probably kill Del State, but it should be interesting.

funny they run that outside the lines sow and now we have a game

[Snoogans]

I saw the thing on ESPN about the dickheads at Delaware. So I hope DSU kicks the fuckin shit out of them

[cougarjake13]

I saw the thing on ESPN about the dickheads at Delaware. So I hope DSU kicks the fuckin shit out of them

would be an awesome end to the story

[ChimneyFish]

I'm guessing this will be on some station up in these here parts.

I'll have to remember to check it out.

[Snoogans]

the Delware vs Deleware St. game is on Friday on ESPN at 1:30

[K.C.]

I saw the thing on ESPN about the dickheads at Delaware. So I hope DSU kicks the fuckin shit out of them

DSU winning would make UD look like an incredible bunch of assholes. For one thing, they'd HAVE to schedule them now, or else pretty much confirm that the people alloting the money for the program, and the boosters, are incredibly racist. And UD would gain no benefit from playing DSU each year, especially if they start losing to them.

I go to UD, and even I actually kind of hope DSU pulls it out...it'd be too funny to watch UD try and spin there way out of the fact that they've purposely avoided that school for so many years.


All that said, UD, on paper, should kill them.

[Snoogans]

DSU winning would make UD look like an incredible bunch of assholes. For one thing, they'd HAVE to schedule them now, or else pretty much confirm that the people alloting the money for the program, and the boosters, are incredibly racist. And UD would gain no benefit from playing DSU each year, especially if they start losing to them.

I go to UD, and even I actually kind of hope DSU pulls it out...it'd be too funny to watch UD try and spin there way out of the fact that they've purposely avoided that school for so many years.


All that said, UD, on paper, should kill them.

why do you say that? I dont know much about either team, but when I checked the schedule, UD was 8-3 and DSU is 10-1. Is one team really that much better then the other?

[Knowledged_one]

Sonic is money they have one about two miles from my place in Ohio. Cherry Limeade best cure for cotton mouth but their food is a little substandard as far as burgers and such go but they have money onion rings and tater tots

Plus they dont have checkers in the midwest they are called Rally's but they have the best burgers/chicken samiches in the fast food game

[K.C.]

why do you say that? I dont know much about either team, but when I checked the schedule, UD was 8-3 and DSU is 10-1. Is one team really that much better then the other?

I guess there's no way to say for sure, but generally, there's really no comparison between the Colonial conference that UD plays in, and the MEAC which Del State plays in...the competition is far and away tougher in the Coloniel, and Delaware has all-around better recruiting classes.

That said, this is the biggest game in Del State's history, so I've got to believe they're going to be juiced for it, and this may be the best team they've ever had.

I'm kind curious what the crowd reaction will be...it's at Delaware, but the papers and radio have been treating UD as the heel in this matchup, big time, for obvious reasons. I could see a 50/50 split in the crowd.

[sailor]

if one team doesn't want to play another, i don't see what the big deal is.

[Knowledged_one]

its because UD doesnt like blacks

Serious note, John Taylor played at Del State and our high school QB coach was the QB of that team, now John Taylor was sick to watch

[sailor]

its because UD doesnt like blacks

Serious note, John Taylor played at Del State and our high school QB coach was the QB of that team, now John Taylor was sick to watch

seems like a stretch. i think it's more not wanting to risk things against the small local school. not that i could care less if their decision was based on race.

[Knowledged_one]

you thought i was serious, sarcasm really is hard to read

[Hottub]

Chichester v Sun Valley.:ohmy:

[sailor]

you thought i was serious, sarcasm really is hard to read

haha it seems like a lot of people are saying that.

[Snoogans]

they ran a huge piece about it. Maybe you can find something on ESPN.com if it's still there, about how it is racist. And the article was written by someone who graduated from UD, i think.

[Knowledged_one]

I played a year at UD back in the day, the only thing they were predjudiced against is how the NJ whores were better then the other whores at teh school

[Snoogans]

I played a year at UD back in the day, the only thing they were predjudiced against is how the NJ whores were better then the other whores at teh school

not students, the old time faculty or whatever and boosters and shit. Apparently DSU has been tryin to play then for a long time. Ill see if i can find it

[Knowledged_one]

On another note there Snoogans my brother from a different mother

You still playing Maddens at all and if so on the 360, want a Giants vs. Skins match-up

Or maybe an NBA2k8 Wizards vs. Knicks?

[Snoogans]

i never had xbox, always a sony person.

anyway, here is that story (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/070920&sportCat=ncf)

30+ years DSU has been trying to play them.

"Indeed there is. Unlike the wealthy, white-as-snow University of Delaware (African-American enrollment: 6 percent), Delaware State is a small black college lacking in prestige, finances and facilities (its stadium holds 6,800 spectators; Delaware's holds 22,000). The school came to be in 1891 only because the men running the First State wished not to allow blacks into their grand university. Under the Morrill Act, a state either could open its public educational facilities to all peoples, or start a separate-but-equal school for blacks. Hence, Delaware State."

[sailor]

i never had xbox, always a sony person.

anyway, here is that story (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/070920&sportCat=ncf)

30+ years DSU has been trying to play them.

"Indeed there is. Unlike the wealthy, white-as-snow University of Delaware (African-American enrollment: 6 percent), Delaware State is a small black college lacking in prestige, finances and facilities (its stadium holds 6,800 spectators; Delaware's holds 22,000). The school came to be in 1891 only because the men running the First State wished not to allow blacks into their grand university. Under the Morrill Act, a state either could open its public educational facilities to all peoples, or start a separate-but-equal school for blacks. Hence, Delaware State."

yeah, i read that article (i think k.c. posted it earlier in the thread) but it's just one guy's opinion that the decision is racist, based on nothing but the fact that they don't want to play the other school. they don't want to play a school that is black so obviously there's no other possible explanation than they're racist. and the fact that the state made a racially motivated decision 116 years ago is kind of irrelevant.

[K.C.]

yeah, i read that article (i think k.c. posted it earlier in the thread) but it's just one guy's opinion that the decision is racist, based on nothing but the fact that they don't want to play the other school. they don't want to play a school that is black so obviously there's no other possible explanation than they're racist. and the fact that the state made a racially motivated decision 116 years ago is kind of irrelevant.

I still go there now...I'll be honest, it's partially about race, but not entirely.

Delaware State was built legitimately under the 'seperate but equal' clause back in the segregation days, so it's always been considered the black school (which it pretty much always has been, I think it's over 90% black).

The point Snoogans made about the boosters, alumni, rich old men in power at UD is correct. They've more or less written it off as 'it's a black school.'

It has nothing really to do with DSU being a small school...Delaware's played West Chester (and destroyed them) pretty much every year since around 1991 (coincendtally, West Chester is UD's former president who just retired, David Roselle's alma-mater).


Now the other side of it is that Delaware doesn't have a whole lot to gain financially from playing Del. State. They already sell out all their games, and get televised regularly. In fact, if Del. State beats them a couple times, it could actually hurt Delaware's recruiting in the region.

The only benefit would be a fun game each year for the fans if both schools are competitive. Now, that's all that should matter, is if the students are into it, but college football has never been about it.


I hope it becomes a regular rivalry. It'd be fun.

[sailor]

I still go there now...I'll be honest, it's partially about race, but not entirely.

Delaware State was built legitimately under the 'seperate but equal' clause back in the segregation days, so it's always been considered the black school (which it pretty much always has been, I think it's over 90% black).

The point Snoogans made about the boosters, alumni, rich old men in power at UD is correct. They've more or less written it off as 'it's a black school.'

It has nothing really to do with DSU being a small school...Delaware's played West Chester (and destroyed them) pretty much every year since around 1991 (coincendtally, West Chester is UD's former president who just retired, David Roselle's alma-mater).


Now the other side of it is that Delaware doesn't have a whole lot to gain financially from playing Del. State. They already sell out all their games, and get televised regularly. In fact, if Del. State beats them a couple times, it could actually hurt Delaware's recruiting in the region.

The only benefit would be a fun game each year for the fans if both schools are competitive. Now, that's all that should matter, is if the students are into it, but college football has never been about it.


I hope it becomes a regular rivalry. It'd be fun.

sounds a lot more reasonable than the article.

[Knowledged_one]

KC do you happen to be in a fraternity there?

[K.C.]

KC do you happen to be in a fraternity there?

Nah, I'm a wanderer...actually do pretty well for myself without being in the frats.

[K.C.]

sounds a lot more reasonable than the article.

Yeah, the guy who wrote the article went a bit overboard, to get people to pay attention, and it worked.

Don't get me wrong, though...he's right about a lot of stuff. I think race is a component of it, and there's absolutely no way for Delaware to justify playing West Chester every year for their
annual slaughter, when Del State would be a much better fit.

But if you treat college football as a business, it's not in UD's best business interests to play them. They really don't have a lot to gain other than an easy victory most years (Del State's been horrible up until the last couple years), which they already get with West Chester without running the risk of being embarassed if they somehow lost to WCU.

[Snoogans]

Yeah, the guy who wrote the article went a bit overboard, to get people to pay attention, and it worked.

Don't get me wrong, though...he's right about a lot of stuff. I think race is a component of it, and there's absolutely no way for Delaware to justify playing West Chester every year for their
annual slaughter, when Del State would be a much better fit.

But if you treat college football as a business, it's not in UD's best business interests to play them. They really don't have a lot to gain other than an easy victory most years (Del State's been horrible up until the last couple years), which they already get with West Chester without running the risk of being embarassed if they somehow lost to WCU.

the main part of the racist angle is, thats now. Today it may not make much sense for UD to play them. But they have been asking for over 30 years. Even if now they just dont break away from how it was, for a long time it prob was MOSTLY based on racism.

[toasterpoodle]

I'm going to have to go Casey v. Lilly.
It is a total snoozefest whenever the subject comes up on the air.
You're women who don't like each other, WE GET IT!

[K.C.]

the main part of the racist angle is, thats now. Today it may not make much sense for UD to play them. But they have been asking for over 30 years. Even if now they just dont break away from how it was, for a long time it prob was MOSTLY based on racism.

It definitely was, and it definitely today is still somewhat racism.


Here's the bottom line on the situation, though:

-If UD/DSU played each other in an annual game, it'd be a phenominal game for the students and fans when both teams are competitive.
-UD doesn't really have anything to gain from it, other than giving their students a great rivalry. Now, you'd think that would be reason enough, and under the circumstances, I think most schools would do it. But they don't...partially because I think there's a lot of racism involved, and partially out of the fear that a few DSU victories, and suddenly UD's local recruiting operations takes a hit.


If UD trounces DSU on Friday, it's not a big deal. If DSU beats UD, it's one of the worst losses in UD's history for a number of reasons, even though DSU is actually a pretty good team, and it's totally conceivably they'd win the game.

[buzzard]

DA Berger

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/FILM/DVDReviews22/a%20perry%20mason%20raymond%20burr%20dvd/a%20perry%20mason%20raymond%20burr%20PDVD_012.jpg

Perry Mason

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDreviews26/a%20perry%20mason%20season%201%20vol%202/a%20perry%20mason%20PERRY_MASON_SEASN1_VOL2_DISC2_ US-6.jpg

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Rock Scissors and Paper

:king:

[buzzard]

boxers & briefs

[buzzard]

oil & water

http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/792/961578.JPG

[TheMojoPin]

Dan and Dave.

[IamFogHat]

The Orioles and the Yankees, in the sense that only the Orioles think there's a rivalry.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Dan and Dave.

nice Reebok callback

Dan O'Brien fan since day one

:king:

[underdog]

Jews v Palestinians

[ralphbxny]

Beta v VHS

[sailor]

barkley vs. angola

[Marc with a c]

Moe v. Spoon

[buzzard]

Russia and the USA

[sailor]

snoogans vs pt cruiser fag

[cougarjake13]

nice Reebok callback

Dan O'Brien fan since day one

:king:

ahh that explains why they bombed at the olympics

[Snoogans]

It definitely was, and it definitely today is still somewhat racism.


Here's the bottom line on the situation, though:

-If UD/DSU played each other in an annual game, it'd be a phenominal game for the students and fans when both teams are competitive.
-UD doesn't really have anything to gain from it, other than giving their students a great rivalry. Now, you'd think that would be reason enough, and under the circumstances, I think most schools would do it. But they don't...partially because I think there's a lot of racism involved, and partially out of the fear that a few DSU victories, and suddenly UD's local recruiting operations takes a hit.


If UD trounces DSU on Friday, it's not a big deal. If DSU beats UD, it's one of the worst losses in UD's history for a number of reasons, even though DSU is actually a pretty good team, and it's totally conceivably they'd win the game.

yea but you cant keep saying UD has no real incentive. What good would Michigan have got beating App St., What help is it to alotta schools to play 3 or 4 games they play. Every college plays games that will not benefit them if they win and can only do harm if they lose. UD is just a bunch of racist pussies

[Snoogans]

snoogans vs pt cruiser fag

That was overrated cause he didn't even fight back. But that makes sense, since he was a fag enough to buy a PT Cruiser in the first place.

[cougarjake13]

chichester vs sun valley

[underdog]

Delware currently destroying DSU (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=48)

[K.C.]

Delware currently destroying DSU (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=48)

Destroying was a bit of an understatement...I thought Delaware would beat them comfortably, but that game was a joke.

[cougarjake13]

Delware currently destroying DSU (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=48)

Destroying was a bit of an understatement...I thought Delaware would beat them comfortably, but that game was a joke.

im too lazy to look it up

what was the final score ???

[underdog]

im too lazy to look it up

what was the final score ???

44-7

[Fallon]

Celtics and Lakers are going at it tonight. C's up 18 at the half.

[sailor]

Destroying was a bit of an understatement...I thought Delaware would beat them comfortably, but that game was a joke.

yay, racism wins!! :)

[ChimneyFish]

That was overrated cause he didn't even fight back. But that makes sense, since he was a fag enough to buy a PT Cruiser in the first place.

Careful....my Dad bought a PT Cruiser.






























He's 7 foot 4, 560 pounds, from Grenoble France.:smoke: