2009 qb draft class

[patsopinion]

is this just me or is this one of the greatest years in a long time to be drafting qbs

with dixon being a smarter/better team player then vic

and matt ryan being the real toast of the draft because of the system he plays in
all time qb record setter for college football (colt brennan)

The kid out of kansas being a legit pic
it just seems to me that the teams with question marks dotting their rosters will have a great opportunity this off season to shore up the long term quarter back

what are your thoughts on it?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I'll get back to you late 2008 or early 2009

:king:

[cougarjake13]

well first off wouldnt it be 2008 ??

not sure what their ages are


anyway im not too high on colt brennan, anyone heard from the last u of hawaii qb since he graduated ???

[patsopinion]

well first off wouldnt it be 2008 ??

not sure what their ages are


anyway im not too high on colt brennan, anyone heard from the last u of hawaii qb since he graduated ???

no and tim rattay is in the top 5 td throwers in college football history and the current number 1 (chen i think) graduated in 2001 and i cant find him
but i think colt brennan could be drafted by a team that would impliment the same system he had in college instead of asking him to become a system back

[PhishHead]

don't you mean 2008?? As these guys would get drafted in 2008 and play int he 2008 season

Yes i just confirmed this as Dixon did not redshirt and he is a senior this year.

[patsopinion]

don't you mean 2008?? As these guys would get drafted in 2008 and play int he 2008 season

i cant edit the tittle

[PhishHead]

Woodson
Ryan
Brohm
Dixon
Johnson (SD QB)
Henne
Ainge
Booty
Brennan
Flynn

probably the top 10 QB's its a good class not the best

[cougarjake13]

no and tim rattay is in the top 5 td throwers in college football history and the current number 1 (chen i think) graduated in 2001 and i cant find him
but i think colt brennan could be drafted by a team that would impliment the same system he had in college instead of asking him to become a system back

so you want colt brennan to become a running back ???

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Woodson
Ryan
Brohm
Dixon
Johnson (SD QB)
Henne
Ainge
Booty
Brennan
Flynn

probably the top 10 QB's its a good class not the best

QFT

a good but not Great class

Maybe someone can be a Diamond in the rough like Mr. Brady

:king:

[AlabamaMan]

Woodson
Ryan
Brohm
Dixon
Johnson (SD QB)
Henne
Ainge
Booty
Brennan
Flynn

probably the top 10 QB's its a good class not the best

Nice work, you beat me to it. There are only 4 that will actually get any play time though.

[patsopinion]

Nice work, you beat me to it. There are only 4 that will actually get any play time though.

teams that need a draft qb

ravens
vikings
falcons
dolphins
kansas city should
49ers should

[cougarjake13]

Nice work, you beat me to it. There are only 4 that will actually get any play time though.

yeh i dont see henne being anything more then a perennial backup

[King Hippos Bandaid]

teams that need a draft qb

ravens
vikings
falcons
dolphins
kansas city should
49ers should


Jets do
Cardinals do
Redskins Kinda, (jury is not fully out on Campbell)
Jaguars do
Panthers Do, (who know what Delhomme will be after coming back from injury)


Lots of teams need a QB

I feel bad for QBs like Volek Cassel and Rodgers, they can play for other teams and are stuck

:king:

[patsopinion]

Jets do
Cardinals do
Redskins Kinda, (jury is not fully out on Campbell)
Jaguars do
Panthers Do, (who know what Delhomme will be after coming back from injury)


Lots of teams need a QB

I feel bad for QBs like Volek Cassel and Rodgers, they can play for other teams and are stuck

:king:

for my money ryan would work on any of these teams and be a star
i think dixon could be one of the exciting options but works out of the gun and not many teams would be willing to go a guy like that

[cougarjake13]

dolphins just drafted beck so i dont se them drafting another first rd qb

but the other teams listed could use some qb help

[PhishHead]

matt ryan sucks just admit it already.

[cougarjake13]

matt ryan sucks just admit it already.

he does but he he's basically this years brady quinn

[PhishHead]

he does but he he's basically this years brady quinn

I am bias i think brady was better.

[patsopinion]

he does but he he's basically this years brady quinn

with a better arm and a comeback mentality
i have him being much better than brady quinn

[PhishHead]

49ers could use help but not at QB, they have so much invested in Smith no point in wasting in when they guy has never played 100% healthy and doesnt have the tools around him, when your best receiver is Arnaz Battle (who I love dont get me wrong) there are problems.

[Snacks]

teams that need a draft qb

ravens
vikings
falcons
dolphins
kansas city should
49ers should

I know my team sucks but Miami did draft their qg of the future or so they think this past draft. John Beck. We will see how he does he will star this week.

Jets do
Cardinals do
Redskins Kinda, (jury is not fully out on Campbell)
Jaguars do
Panthers Do, (who know what Delhomme will be after coming back from injury)


Lots of teams need a QB

I feel bad for QBs like Volek Cassel and Rodgers, they can play for other teams and are stuck

:king:

Volek could have been a starter a lot of places but Cassel is a bum and the only thing Rodgers has proven is he can fall 20 spots in the draft and he can get hurt in his only time playing during the preseason.

[PhishHead]

with a better arm and a comeback mentality
i have him being much better than brady quinn

you really are stupid sometimes, Quinn had many comeback victories at ND and played with a worse defense then what Ryan has.

[Earlshog]

QFT

a good but not Great class

Maybe someone can be a Diamond in the rough like Mr. Brady

:king:

well back to the drawing board.... :tongue:

at least we know its going to be either a terrible or great class.. it def won't be good

[King Hippos Bandaid]

you really are stupid sometimes, Quinn had many comeback victories at ND and played with a worse defense then what Ryan has.

:lol:

Viva la Phishy

:king:

[patsopinion]

:lol:

Viva la Phishy

:king:

hes bitter im not a hippy
as a niners fan i cant find a very good list of the top wide receiver prospects which is what my team will prob go for
any know what that list is?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

hes bitter im not a hippy
as a niners fan i cant find a very good list of the top wide receiver prospects which is what my team will prob go for
any know what that list is?


nad hes mad at you because you rant without true facts

facts are smart all the time , opinions (Pat's) are stupid sometimes

:king:

[cougarjake13]

hes bitter im not a hippy
as a niners fan i cant find a very good list of the top wide receiver prospects which is what my team will prob go for
any know what that list is?


doucet from lsu and manningham off the top of my head


the rest below


http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2008WR.php

[patsopinion]

nad hes mad at you because you rant without true facts

facts are smart all the time , opinions (Pat's) are stupid sometimes

:king:

yea im okay with that
but at least i have something to say and im not a lurker

[King Hippos Bandaid]

yea im okay with that
but at least i have something to say and im not a lurker

true

and to compliment ya, you're threads\ topics have gotten better since the beginning

:king:

[patsopinion]

true

and to compliment ya, you're threads\ topics have gotten better since the beginning

:king:

hey at least i gotz an upside

[PhishHead]

being a niner fan as well, i know the facts of the team.

Our first pick is #30 we arent getting a great WR with that pick or a great anything really.
We need to stock pile picks for the coming years.

We need a RB to take over for Gore he will not hold up for another 5 years or less.
We need a WR.

If Ray Rice drops to bottom of 1st or 2nd round, niners need to pick him up.
Or go for Hart or Forsett, gore will not last as much as I love him.

Then we need to have another shitty year and go for Crabtree in 2009 he will be the key.

[patsopinion]

being a niner fan as well, i know the facts of the team.

Our first pick is #30 we arent getting a great WR with that pick or a great anything really.
We need to stock pile picks for the coming years.

We need a RB to take over for Gore he will not hold up for another 5 years or less.
We need a WR.

If Ray Rice drops to bottom of 1st or 2nd round, niners need to pick him up.
Or go for Hart or Forsett, gore will not last as much as I love him.

Then we need to have another shitty year and go for Crabtree in 2009 he will be the key.
who is crabtree

as a niners fan we know the upsides of this defense and that they have a lot of the building blocks for the future
but sayin that gore isnt the future of th offense means that there is nothing to looki forward to on that side of the ball

who is the future head coach of the niners?
i dont, along with almost every talking head-have any faith in nolan and they will need to get an offensive coach
who is the best o coach that would want that job

[PhishHead]

WAIT!!!

How can you be talking college football and not know who Michael Crabtree is??

Thats it, please lock this thread, Patsopinion had no business starting this thread.

[patsopinion]

WAIT!!!

How can you be talking college football and not know who Michael Crabtree is??

Thats it, please lock this thread, Patsopinion had no business starting this thread.

i only watch pac 10 really

[PhishHead]

i only watch pac 10 really

considering he is probably having the best year for any freshman WR in NCAA history you should know about him.

over 100 receptions, over 1700 yards and 20 tds.

[patsopinion]

considering he is probably having the best year for any freshman WR in NCAA history you should know about him.

over 100 receptions, over 1700 yards and 20 tds.

i find college football unwatchable in a highlight format or even watching any of the shows and even pre game

there are simply to many teams to have any emotional investments in anything for me outside of actual game play

[King Hippos Bandaid]

enjoying the new sig. Phishy


:king:

[TheMojoPin]

OK, the Bears suck and desperately need a QB. They'll probably finish this season 6-10 or 7-9. Who should likely look at it with such a pick?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

OK, the Bears suck and desperately need a QB. They'll probably finish this season 6-10 or 7-9. Who should likely look at it with such a pick?

Trade your pick and get someone who can QB, don't Grossman it again

:king:

[patsopinion]

seneca wallace of the seahawks is my favorite madden player
he might work there


wtf how do bears fans get off bitching about their qb after they went to the superbowl last year!?
i find this like a middle finger to the rest of the league
what they should do is draft a rb high i the draft

[TheMojoPin]

Trade your pick and get someone who can QB, don't Grossman it again

:king:

Grossman's gone. This is the last year on his deal and there's almost no chance he comes back. They're drafting...which is probably gonna suck anyways, even with a bunch of good guys to pick.

[PhishHead]

chicago will take brohm which is a huge step forward from grossman or griese

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Grossman's gone. This is the last year on his deal and there's almost no chance he comes back. They're drafting...which is probably gonna suck anyways, even with a bunch of good guys to pick.

By Grossmaning it

I meant don't draft a QB like Grossman, test free agency and maybe get a QB later in the draft, if it works, then more gooder for you

:king:

[Tenbatsuzen]

I don't see Patrick White being mentioned.

[PhishHead]

I don't see Patrick White being mentioned.

i hope you are joking

[underdog]

OK, the Bears suck and desperately need a QB. They'll probably finish this season 6-10 or 7-9. Who should likely look at it with such a pick?

The should get a new coach, first. Then worry about who's going to play QB.

[Tenbatsuzen]

i hope you are joking

He'll make a fine NFL player, and a steal of a draft pick.












As a WR or DB.

[Freakshow]

No QB makes a good defensive player. Keep on O, maybe a kick returner like Brian Mitchell.


I think this QB class will rank with 1998. That is to say, shitty. Colt Brennan? See Chang, Timmy. 'nuff said.

[RAAMONE]

is this just me or is this one of the greatest years in a long time to be drafting qbs

with dixon being a smarter/better team player then vic


would you still take a chance with dixon?

[Freitag]

No QB makes a good defensive player. Keep on O, maybe a kick returner like Brian Mitchell.




Brad Smith has seemed to carve a niche out for himself as a slashback and a WR on the Jets, but I think Pat White has some more tools than Smith has.

Of course, I could see a team wasting a draft pick on him late as a backup and/or a WR.

I'm more interested to see where Slaton and Ray Rice end up.

[PhishHead]

Brad Smith has seemed to carve a niche out for himself as a slashback and a WR on the Jets, but I think Pat White has some more tools than Smith has.

Of course, I could see a team wasting a draft pick on him late as a backup and/or a WR.

I'm more interested to see where Slaton and Ray Rice end up.

slaton more likely towards top half of first round rice towards the bottom. Rice is projected around 27-30.

I dont think white leaves this year, he is only a redshirt junior.

Battle is another QB turned WR who isn't doing horrible considering who his QB is.