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[Ritalin]

Q: How many kids with ADD does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A: Wanna ride bikes?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Im down wit A.D.D, yeah you know me

:king:

[Death Metal Moe]

I do believe it exists, but not with all the children we now think have it. ADD seemed to be the new blanket explination for "your kid is just an active kid" and parents who wanted to calm them down with a cop-out solution just drugged them instead of parenting.

[EliSnow]

I think it exists but I really think overdiagnosed by .....

Hey look, tits!!

[Thebazile78]

I agree that it exists, but is definitely overdiagnosed.

Tom Cruise is never right.

[RAAMONE]

the real question is.....does SUBTRACT really exist?

[cupcakelove]

I have no doubt it exists. If you think it doesn't, you should have met my sister before she was prescribed medication. There are a lot of kids out there that are given meds that don't need them, but there still are more than a few kids that can benefit from them.

[topless_mike]

I do believe it exists, but not with all the children we now think have it. ADD seemed to be the new blanket explination for "your kid is just an active kid" and parents who wanted to calm them down with a cop-out solution just drugged them instead of parenting.

i agree.
i have a 2 year old, and he can be pretty exhausting. some things will catch his attention for hours, and others for seconds.

all children have very short attention spans: to a certain degree, its because there is input overload: so much to see and explore.

i believe some kids are just naturally energetic, which i would welcome with open arms (the energetic part) over lethargic.

i have a family member who thought and the doctor thought the child was ADD, and they put him on all kinds of drugs. Turns out the child just wanted attention. The child was all kinds of reckless when nobody was paying attention to him. When my wife and i were visiting, all we used to do was play with him and his cars, or read a book to him, and he was a saint.

Long story short, that family member went through a nasty divorce, the child went to the father, and he took him off the drugs. Child turned out to be normal after all, and is now a typical 10 year old.

i think too many parents "self-diagnose" and drs are too quick to prescribe drugs.

[led37zep]

I'm not a doctor, I just played one in elementary school.

[jauble]

ADD is no longer the name it has all merged with ADHD, I have some personal experience with this "disorder" being that my mom is a teacher and since I have been 18 I substitute teach sometimes. This is massivly overdiagnosed but I do think a lot of the problems associated with ADHD are from early television exposure, money hungry drug companies and a seperation in child rearing styles (not the pedo type of child rearing)

[Thebazile78]

i think too many parents "self-diagnose" and drs are too quick to prescribe drugs.

One thing I will say about "self-diagnosing" is that the more you read the symptoms, the more you correlate them to your own (or your kids') behavior because a lot of symptom lists are pretty darned generic.

It's another symptom of a lot of folks' desire for a "quick fix" that doctors are more willing to prescribe medications, whether we're talking about Ritalin or Penicillin, because they're caught between a rock and a hard place: Hippocrates says "first, do no harm" but the parents say "there's a solution in a little pill, so freaking use it!" . . . so, the doctor will prescribe "something" to make the parents happy. (Too bad it'd be unethical to prescribe placebos in cases which don't really need meds. . .)

For example, I've had my own doctors tell me that most patients would prefer an antibiotic because it looks like a doctor is doing "something" even if an infection is viral. I hate antibiotics and know that they're no help against a virus; why would I want to pay $10 for a 'scrip that'll make me feel like ass AND won't help me? (Just to emphasize my point: Antibiotics don't work on viruses; if this is news to you, you are among the reason we have drug-resistant bacteria.)

[buzzard]

so this isn't a math test?


when I was a kid they didn't call it ADD it was PITA....(Pain In The Ass)

[IamFogHat]

Is it undiagnosed? Yes. Does it not exist? No. It's not even psychology, it's science you buffoons.

[Ritalin]

ADD is no longer the name it has all merged with ADHD, I have some personal experience with this "disorder" being that my mom is a teacher and since I have been 18 I substitute teach sometimes. This is massivly overdiagnosed but I do think a lot of the problems associated with ADHD are from early television exposure, money hungry drug companies and a seperation in child rearing styles (not the pedo type of child rearing)

ADD and ADHD are two separate things, kind of. You can have attention deficit without hyperactivity (Hi :bye:)

[QUOTE=Thebazile78;1516564]One thing I will say about "self-diagnosing" is that the more you read the symptoms, the more you correlate them to your own (or your kids') behavior because a lot of symptom lists are pretty darned generic.

It's another symptom of a lot of folks' desire for a "quick fix" that doctors are more willing to prescribe medications, whether we're talking about Ritalin or Penicillin, because they're caught between a rock and a hard place: Hippocrates says "first, do no harm" but the parents say "there's a solution in a little pill, so freaking use it!" . . . so, the doctor will prescribe "something" to make the parents happy. (Too bad it'd be unethical to prescribe placebos in cases which don't really need meds. . .)

The problem here is that pediatricians shouldn't be diagnosing or prescribing drugs for ADHD. It's a neurological disorder and should be treated by a neurologist.

There was an interesting study published yesterday about brain development and ADHD, which got me started thinking about this in the first place:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=3855328&page=1

[patsopinion]

im on the autism isnt as bad as they say bandwagon also
they dont have autism
some of them are just stupid
not the ones that really have it though

[Ritalin]

im on the autism isnt as bad as they say bandwagon also
they dont have autism
some of them are just stupid
not the ones that really have it though

Autism freaks me out.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

oh my god i was gonna so check back on this thread

but i was posting on ronfez.net, playing snood, checking my fantasy stats while on my phone and checking my email

:king:

[DarkHippie]

im on the autism isnt as bad as they say bandwagon also
they dont have autism
some of them are just stupid
not the ones that really have it though

I teach autistic adults. It has nothing to do with intelligence, it is more of a communication disorder, in that the subject has difficulty interacting with the world outside of his own mind.

[patsopinion]

I teach autistic adults. It has nothing to do with intelligence, it is more of a communication disorder, in that the subject has difficulty interacting with the world outside of his own mind.

well its just that i take issue with the major jump in amount of people being diagnosed with the disease

it just doesn't seem necessarily correlative to me any more with the acutal disease

i mean so much of medicine is based on trends in the medical community and i think its wrong to have peoples lives being affected by the flavor/pill of the month

[IMSlacker]

Oh, it exists. And my level 73 wizard will kick your fucking ass!

http://graysmatter.codivation.com/content/binary/dungeonsanddragons.jpg

[Ritalin]

well its just that i take issue with the major jump in amount of people being diagnosed with the disease

it just doesn't seem necessarily correlative to me any more with the acutal disease

i mean so much of medicine is based on trends in the medical community and i think its wrong to have peoples lives being affected by the flavor/pill of the month

I think you're a little confused. I think you mean what you're saying about ADD, not Autism.

There's nothing flavor of the month about autism. It's a profound disorder.

[patsopinion]

I think you're a little confused. I think you mean what you're saying about ADD, not Autism.

There's nothing flavor of the month about autism. It's a profound disorder.

doctors are now saying that 1 in every 144 children have some form of autism

"Autism was once thought to affect 4-5 people out of every 10,000, but the most recent numbers show a prevalence rate of 1 out of every 150."

if thats true then we need to find out what would cause such a drastic statistical variance between now and then
and then sue the shit out of someone

[SatCam]

when you look at the sun, I bet you think "wow its sunny out"


when I look at the sun, I start to think about the sky and the stars and far away galaxies and aliens and UFOs



nah just kidding

[patsopinion]

when you look at the sun, I bet you think "wow its sunny out"


when I look at the sun, I start to think about the sky and the stars and far away galaxies and aliens and UFOs



nah just kidding

i try not to stare at the sun:smoke:

[Sarge]

doctors are now saying that 1 in every 144 children have some form of autism

"Autism was once thought to affect 4-5 people out of every 10,000, but the most recent numbers show a prevalence rate of 1 out of every 150."

if thats true then we need to find out what would cause such a drastic statistical variance between now and then
and then sue the shit out of someone

One of my twins was diagnosed as being on the Autistic spectrum. My wife noticed the signs early, and my daughter began A.B.A. at 18 months. It has been a year since we found out, and I can say that she is a different person. The A.B.A. is amazing, she became very high functioning,she is talking, and interacting with people, and we are hoping to mainstream her when she begins school. If you think a child is Autistic, check it out, I thought my wife was overreacting, and I thank god she noticed it, because I never would have.

[cougarjake13]

i personally think its a bullshit cop out disease