New York Knicks Offseason Thread

[IsiahThomas]

I am fat and don't care. All I do is launch awful shots, eat hamburgers and rob Dolan. Fuck Isiah

IM Q RICH MOTHERFUCKER

somebody ought to tell that boy to stop eating. but this chair is so nice and comfy. i dont think i want to get up. hopefully someone else notices how fat he is and tells him to stop eating. and hopefully they draw up a gameplan too. cause i aint getting up for nothin.

[QuentinRichardson]

somebody ought to tell that boy to stop eating. but this chair is so nice and comfy. i dont think i want to get up. hopefully someone else notices how fat he is and tells him to stop eating. and hopefully they draw up a gameplan too. cause i aint getting up for nothin.

BOY. ILL SIT ON YOU LITTLE MAN. Besides, you didnt even stand up til the 4th quarter. I was sitting there just bombing shots from everywhere and you did NOTHING. So dont say shit to me now, im busy. I got a triple Whopper to work on

[IsiahThomas]

BOY. ILL SIT ON YOU LITTLE MAN. Besides, you didnt even stand up til the 4th quarter. I was sitting there just bombing shots from everywhere and you did NOTHING. So dont say shit to me now, im busy. I got a triple Whopper to work on

i only got up because my ass got numb. i assure you i never attempted to coach any basketall team. i was simply thinking of what I could get in a trade for david lee and nate robinson. i was hoping to land detlef shrempf and bill cartwright. i'd like to lock them up in max deals.

[QuentinRichardson]

i only got up because my ass got numb. i assure you i never attempted to coach any basketall team. i was simply thinking of what I could get in a trade for david lee and nate robinson. i was hoping to land detlef shrempf and bill cartwright. i'd like to lock them up in max deals.

Yea the fans would love that. You obviously cant trade me. Im the size of a tank and my contract is uninsured. AND YOU STILL TOOK IT


Look at the complete lack of defininition in my fat arms:
http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/b7f59882-920f-46b2-a63c-5327e9ffce85.jpg


EVEN ZACH RANDOLPH'S ARMS ARENT AS FAT

[IsiahThomas]

Yea the fans would love that. You obviously cant trade me. Im the size of a tank and my contract is uninsured. AND YOU STILL TOOK IT


Look at the complete lack of defininition in my fat arms:
http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/b7f59882-920f-46b2-a63c-5327e9ffce85.jpg

where are you. i only see a couple of basketball players and an elephant. what moron let an elephant on the floor?

[QuentinRichardson]

where are you. i only see a couple of basketball players and an elephant. what moron let an elephant on the floor?

No stupid, I'm the elephant. If you bothered to watch film you woulda seen me gain 65 pounds in 5 months

[IsiahThomas]

No stupid, I'm the elephant. If you bothered to watch film you woulda seen me gain 65 pounds in 5 months

why you complainin. so what. were paying you. and after I give Drazen Petrovic a max deal this summer and use the mid level exception on Len Bias Jimmy D will just charge more for cable to pay for it.

whatever man, stop bothering me. I'm getting my sit on.

[QuentinRichardson]

why you complainin. so what. were paying you. and after I give Drazen Petrovic a max deal this summer and use the mid level exception on Len Bias, Jimmy D will just charge more for cable to pay for it.

whatever man, stop bothering me. I'm getting my sit on.

This is why I got Direct TV. Im not giving you lazy cocks back a dime. I didnt earn any, im running away with that shit. Plus its easier to change the channel on Direct TV with BBQ sauce on my hands



Check out my awesome new sig

[IsiahThomas]

This is why I got Direct TV. Im not giving you lazy cocks back a dime. I didnt earn any, im running away with that shit. Plus its easier to change the channel on Direct TV with BBQ sauce on my hands



Check out my awesome new sig

be honest. how many times you got BBQ sauce on the remote and then ate it?

[QuentinRichardson]

be honest. how many times you got BBQ sauce on the remote and then ate it?

You think QRich is stupid? Remember who is the one who offered to take on the uninsured contract. Thats right, ISIAH THOMAS.

The only thing you can Insure with Q Rich is that the check will be over $1000

[IsiahThomas]

You think QRich is stupid? Remember who is the one who offered to take on the uninsured contract. Thats right, ISIAH THOMAS.

The only thing you can Insure with Q Rich is that the check will be over $1000

i am so mad. get over here so I can beat your ass. i aint getting up.

[QuentinRichardson]

i am so mad. get over here so I can beat your ass. i aint getting up.

How can you beat something that takes up HALF THE FUCKIN COURT

Jesus is this thing huge. you know how hard it is just to drag it around all day. Why do you think I just bomb 3's?

[IsiahThomas]

How can you beat something that takes up HALF THE FUCKIN COURT

Jesus is this thing huge. you know how hard it is just to drag it around all day. Why do you think I just bomb 3's?

because you are jabba the hut, sliming you way all the way all over the court you fat fuck. it takes you 24 seconds just to get to the 3 point line. next month you will be chucking them from half court.

i still stand behind the trade. id do it again.

[QuentinRichardson]

because you are jabba the hut, sliming you way all the way all over the court you fat fuck. it takes you 24 seconds just to get to the 3 point line. next month you will be chucking them from half court.

i still stand behind the trade. id do it again.

I know you would, coach. Cause you suck. Everybody look at how Isiah teaches us to play defense:

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/6f36ca8e-9c9a-4ad8-b754-bc6af58e7e5a.jpg


oh yea, THATS perimeter D. And look at my GIANT TITTIES. I gotta be crackin D's at least.


where did I leave that Haggaan Daas?

[Jim Dolan]

If you guys do not stop this bickering, i will have NO CHOICE but to give you both 7 year extensions. DO YOU HEAR ME?

[QuentinRichardson]

If you guys do not stop this bickering, i will have NO CHOICE but to give you both 7 year extensions. DO YOU HEAR ME?

Remember, Mine and Curry's are uninsured. So make sure those are the biggest contracts

[Jim Dolan]

HEY ISIAH.. I WANT YOU TO GET THIS GUY.. THIS IS HOW YOU TAKE A CHARGE!


http://bp0.blogger.com/_HNjQK_d0V14/R85QaLlw2XI/AAAAAAAABDg/k--TA3vEKJA/s400/rmccants_400_080226.jpg
You do not get me him, YOU ARE FIR
ED!

[QuentinRichardson]

nice job boss, you run the knicks and cant even post a picture without fuckin up.

Tell me why I shouldn't be fat again?

[Jim Dolan]

nice job boss, you run the knicks and cant even post a picture without fuckin up.

Tell me why I shouldn't be fat again?

I HAVE PEOPLE DO THAT, YOU THINK I DO SHIT ON MY OWN? I JUST GAVE THE GUY THAT FUCKED UP A PROMOTION AND A RAISE!

[Snoogans]

All 3 of you can go fuck yourselves. LOSERS

[cougarjake13]

oh man football seasons over and we got ballers now


when do the PBA Bowlers start showing up ???

[Snoogans]

oh man football seasons over and we got ballers now


when do the PBA Bowlers start showing up ???

HAMBONE

[QuentinRichardson]

22 minutes, 0-5 shooting, only 2 points. But I did eat 16 hotdogs during the game, so that has to count for something

[King Hippos Bandaid]

thank god for the Rangers

the Knicks are unwatchable

Die Isiah Die, and that is not German

[Jim Dolan]

22 minutes, 0-5 shooting, only 2 points. But I did eat 16 hotdogs during the game, so that has to count for something

I still stand by my man Isaiah, and would support him if he wanted to do the trade that aquired you again.

[Jim Dolan]

thank god for the Rangers

the Knicks are unwatchable

Die Isiah Die, and that is not German

Great,thanks alot, now i am going to be blamed when my Rangers fall apart.

[Jim Dolan]

With that being said, I want to offer you a 7 year 85million dollar making predictions deal.

[Furtherman]

Dolan, I hate what you've done with the Beacon theater. It sucks now.

[Kevin]

Dolan, I hate what you've done with the Beacon theater. It sucks now.

Come on, how can you hate a theater dedicated to that spectacularly delicious food known as Beacon? How can you hate it?

[QuentinRichardson]

Come on, how can you hate a theater dedicated to that spectacularly delicious food known as Beacon? How can you hate it?

I eat so much bacon they are running outta pigs. It helps me throw up airballs when I bomb it up from 30 feet. 22 minutes and only 2 points. Maybe I am gonna make it to Eddy Curry status.

[Kevin]

I eat so much bacon they are running outta pigs. It helps me throw up airballs when I bomb it up from 30 feet. 22 minutes and only 2 points. Maybe I am gonna make it to Eddy Curry status.

Between You and Hippo's the terrorists will indeed win.

[QuentinRichardson]

Between You and Hippo's the terrorists will indeed win.

Quentin Richardson refuses to be talked down to by a dirty Albanian

[Kevin]

Quentin Richardson refuses to be talked down to by a dirty Albanian

We don't like black people anyway. So i do not care what you think.

[Jim Dolan]

Quentin Richardson refuses to be talked down to by a dirty Albanian

Do not talk down to people from our great State's capital.

[QuentinRichardson]

Do not talk down to people from our great State's capital.

no, boss. He is from Kosuvo, not Albany. I read about them when I was at KFC last night before the game. Apparently there is a whole serperate country of phony Norhtern NYs

[Jim Dolan]

no, boss. He is from Kosuvo, not Albany. I read about them when I was at KFC last night before the game. Apparently there is a whole serperate country of phony Norhtern NYs

Wait, you were at KFC and did not bring me back anything? Now i am really pissed.

[QuentinRichardson]

Wait, you were at KFC and did not bring me back anything? Now i am really pissed.

the KFC is in your building, Boss.

[Jim Dolan]

the KFC is in your building, Boss.

Shit, now i remember, it was built as part of Eddie Curry's extension, then upgraded when we got Zack. You still should have sent some to my box, it would not have hurt.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Great,thanks alot, now i am going to be blamed when my Rangers fall apart.


Dolan, please die with Isiah

double murder please, feel free to blow each other first

[Jim Dolan]

Dolan, please die with Isiah

double murder please, feel free to blow each other first

Thanks! Now we will both live forever, and get tons of pooha.

[QuentinRichardson]

Shit, now i remember, it was built as part of Eddie Curry's extension, then upgraded when we got Zack. You still should have sent some to my box, it would not have hurt.

Ummm, we played in Dallas last night, Boss. You werent even there. NOW YOU GUYS WONDER WHY ALL I DO IS GET FAT AND BOMB 30 FOOT JUMPERS.

The fuckin owner didnt even know we had a road game

[Jim Dolan]

Ummm, we played in Dallas last night, Boss. You werent even there. NOW YOU GUYS WONDER WHY ALL I DO IS GET FAT AND BOMB 30 FOOT JUMPERS.

The fuckin owner didnt even know we had a road game

Like i even pay attention to where you guys play.. All i know is what Isaiah tells me. He tells me the team is going good. He tells me we are a few games from top seed in the east. So who cares where you play.

[Jim Dolan]

I did find it weird that when i called stern to ask about possible Garden playoff dates, He laughed at me and hung up, but Isaiah told me it was because i called too early and they don't even start doing that until April 1st. So i understand now.. Do not know why That Jew didn't just say that, instead of being so rude.

[QuentinRichardson]

I did find it weird that when i called stern to ask about possible Garden playoff dates, He laughed at me and hung up, but Isaiah told me it was because i called too early and they don't even start doing that until April 1st. So i understand now.. Do not know why That Jew didn't just say that, instead of being so rude.

Ummmmm. We are 14-47 this year. We are next to last in the conference. If it helps any, Me, Eddy and Zach are all top ten seeds in this years Nathan's hotdog thing

[Jim Dolan]

Ummmmm. We are 14-47 this year. We are next to last in the conference. If it helps any, Me, Eddy and Zach are all top ten seeds in this years Nathan's hotdog thing

I know about the record, But Isaiah assures that at the end of the year, the NBA reverses records and we will be close to the top seed. Do you think i would be that stupid not to know what my team's record is?

Congrats on the Nathans thing though.. I am very proud.

[QuentinRichardson]

I know about the record, But Isaiah assures that at the end of the year, the NBA reverses records and we will be close to the top seed. Do you think i would be that stupid not to know what my team's record is?

Congrats on the Nathans thing though.. I am very proud.

WE ARENT GONNA MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. Shit, even if we were good enough, I'm pretty sure we exceed maximum weight limit for playoffs

[Jim Dolan]

WE ARENT GONNA MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. Shit, even if we were good enough, I'm pretty sure we exceed maximum weight limit for playoffs

I am pretty sure that thats not the case.. I remember when Phoenix were allowed to play with Oliver Miller and Charles Barkley.

[QuentinRichardson]

I am pretty sure that thats not the case.. I remember when Phoenix were allowed to play with Oliver Miller and Charles Barkley.

yea well right now you got me AND Curry AND RANDOLPH. Plus have you seen the wonderful job I'm doing prokin up Fred Jones. He will be as big as me soon

[Doctor Z]

Caught the 4th quarter and overtime (which shouldn't have happened) tonight, and naturally the only guy showing any guts and guile on the court was David Lee (16 rebounds and another double/double)... but what I found really interesting was, after the game, he was interviewed on the court by Al Trautwig, and since the interview goes over the arena PA, he thanked the fans for coming out and still showing support at this point in the season, and was like "The way we've played this year, you could've easily stayed home"... it was pretty ballsy of him to basically say "Sorry we sucked, but thanks for sticking with us."

I hope if this team ever gets good, or at least is a contender, that Lee is part of it. I would hate to see him traded in an overhaul this off-season, cuz he's gone out there and played hard night in and night out, despite how unappealing playing for the Knicks is right now. And if this team becomes good he deserves to be a part of it.

[Kevin]

Caught the 4th quarter and overtime (which shouldn't have happened) tonight, and naturally the only guy showing any guts and guile on the court was David Lee (16 rebounds and another double/double)... but what I found really interesting was, after the game, he was interviewed on the court by Al Trautwig, and since the interview goes over the arena PA, he thanked the fans for coming out and still showing support at this point in the season, and was like "The way we've played this year, you could've easily stayed home"... it was pretty ballsy of him to basically say "Sorry we sucked, but thanks for sticking with us."

I hope if this team ever gets good, or at least is a contender, that Lee is part of it. I would hate to see him traded in an overhaul this off-season, cuz he's gone out there and played hard night in and night out, despite how unappealing playing for the Knicks is right now. And if this team becomes good he deserves to be a part of it.

Some good young talent there. A good coach can build with it.. But Ziek needs to go before he can touch the tam anymore.

[TheGameHHH]

man do I feel bad for the Heat, you know you suck when the knicks beat you.

[Bossanova]

How can anyone seriously take a job from Dolan, knowing that he wants to keep Isiah as coach?


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3314942

[Kevin]

How can anyone seriously take a job from Dolan, knowing that he wants to keep Isiah as coach?


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3314942

I do not think any GM has any credibility in the league if he keeps Isaiah.. Walsh has other options i think he will fire Isaiah that is a must.

[Knowledged_one]

Is there any truth to the rumor that the Knicks will be replaced next year with the Sioux City Rapids in the East while the Knicks go to the NBDL.

I think they could contend for a playoff spot in the talent laden NBDL

[Bossanova]

Well here is one thing Knick fans can be happy about. Ewing is going to the Hall

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3333987

[Snoogans]

Well here is one thing Knick fans can be happy about. Ewing is going to the Hall

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3333987

He also was a first ballot HOFer in the Star Players who become completely invisible in crunch time

[Bossanova]

He also was a first ballot HOFer in the Star Players who become completely invisible in crunch time

Still not as bas as Starks

[Kevin]

Still not as bas as Starks

He just missed another shot.

[spadanko]

man do I feel bad for the Heat, you know you suck when the knicks beat you.

eh.. they'll have Derrick rose or Michael Besely next season. Can't feel too bad. those are franchise players

[Bossanova]

eh.. they'll have Derrick rose or Michael Besely next season. Can't feel too bad. those are franchise players

Yes we can. They are now blowing a chance to get those guys. Fucking assholes lose all year and when its a must to lose they put together a winning streak against playoff teams

[Snoogans]

Rose maybe, but Beasley is over 6'6 so the knicks NEVER would draft him

[Knowledged_one]

I thought the knicks already traded their first round pick this year for a handful of magic beans

[BlackKen]

Rose maybe, but Beasley is over 6'6 so the knicks NEVER would draft him

LOL, I can't say much here cause I am a Spurs fan, but your team needs to get some size kid. Maybe with the new Prez the draft will be better

[Snoogans]

LOL, I can't say much here cause I am a Spurs fan, but your team needs to get some size kid. Maybe with the new Prez the draft will be better

Yea cause his moves are KILLIN IT in Indiana right now. We are SOOOOO fucked

[Kevin]

Yea cause his moves are KILLIN IT in Indiana right now. We are SOOOOO fucked

The fight really really fucked them up. They were a contending team until then. They were going to be a really high seed and make a big run. The whole fight changed that franchise big time. Plus Bird had a big say in things there from 2000 and on. And we have learned from Ainge Machale, You do not hire ex Celtics to run your team. Walsh did a real good job making an awful team into a title contender in the 90's

[Bossanova]

Those were more Bird's picks though. Walsh just signed off on them, he didnt want to argue over power near the end

[Snoogans]

Oh good. You guys are drinkin the Kool Aid now. Im DONE buying into shit. If results happen, ill be happy, but if you think im gonna be dumb enough to get excited before anything happens, you're crazy. Remember Isiah may be leaving, Dolan fuckin isnt

[Bossanova]

I'm not drinking kool-aid. Walsh was a proven winner. Bird came in an fucked it up. I am not excited yet. Isiah is still there, and Dolan hasn't backed off. I have no reason to be excited until I see .500 in the standings

[Snoogans]

I'm not drinking kool-aid. Walsh was a proven winner. Bird came in an fucked it up. I am not excited yet. Isiah is still there, and Dolan hasn't backed off. I have no reason to be excited until I see .500 in the standings

Walsh was a proven winner. Walsh also hired Isiah Thomas and then gave him power to run the team. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY BROUGHT BIRD IN. Cause ole Walshy was goin nuts

[Knowledged_one]

It really doesnt matter who they bring in. They are so far behind the 8-ball in terms of salary cap and bad contracts that it wont be till after the 2010 season they will see some relief. I mean they gave Jerome James 5 mil/year to do nothing, or my favorite as a Wizards fan the Jared Jeffries signing

Unless Walsh can convince someone to take either Curry or Randolph things will be bad for a while. However, with Jamison a free agent this year if he leaves the Wizards who were reportedly interested in Randolph last year could be shipped to DC for a combo of Blatche, Nick Young and maybe another to make the salary work

[Kevin]

Oh good. You guys are drinkin the Kool Aid now. Im DONE buying into shit. If results happen, ill be happy, but if you think im gonna be dumb enough to get excited before anything happens, you're crazy. Remember Isiah may be leaving, Dolan fuckin isnt

I can't believe i am about to defend Dolen.. But here goes... Dolen gives a person who knows what he is doing every opportunity to do it. He does not meddle, and i have heard that from alot of people. And he never says no on spending. The problem is he doesn't know shit about basketball and listens to people and does not question. If you have a good basketball mind running things, Dolen is a good owner. He is an idiot but as far as allowing people to do their shit, he is very good. If Walsh comes in and cleans house and hires good basketball minds, then i think this team will be in good shape. No one praises Dolen for the Rangers turn around. But he let Sather and Reney do their shit, and they are good hockey minds so the team is in good shape from good prospects in the minors to a contending team. The Knicks can be the same if Walsh knows what he is doing.

[Snoogans]

It really doesnt matter who they bring in. They are so far behind the 8-ball in terms of salary cap and bad contracts that it wont be till after the 2010 season they will see some relief. I mean they gave Jerome James 5 mil/year to do nothing, or my favorite as a Wizards fan the Jared Jeffries signing

Unless Walsh can convince someone to take either Curry or Randolph things will be bad for a while. However, with Jamison a free agent this year if he leaves the Wizards who were reportedly interested in Randolph last year could be shipped to DC for a combo of Blatche, Nick Young and maybe another to make the salary work

Are any of those guys over 6'6 or good? If so, no deal

[Snoogans]

I can't believe i am about to defend Dolen.. But here goes... Dolen gives a person who knows what he is doing every opportunity to do it. He does not meddle, and i have heard that from alot of people. And he never says no on spending. The problem is he doesn't know shit about basketball and listens to people and does not question. If you have a good basketball mind running things, Dolen is a good owner. He is an idiot but as far as allowing people to do their shit, he is very good. If Walsh comes in and cleans house and hires good basketball minds, then i think this team will be in good shape. No one praises Dolen for the Rangers turn around. But he let Sather and Reney do their shit, and they are good hockey minds so the team is in good shape from good prospects in the minors to a contending team. The Knicks can be the same if Walsh knows what he is doing.

that shit including allowing someone to cost him almost 12 million for sexually harrassing people and then butchering his team. HE IS A SHITTY OWNER. Sometimes you have to step in, like hmm, the last 7 years. Between Layden and Thomas, he shoulda been pesky and involved. HE BLOWS, the Knicks blow, and Its gonna be a long time before I believe that anyone can come here and do any good for this org.

[Kevin]

that shit including allowing someone to cost him almost 12 million for sexually harrassing people and then butchering his team. HE IS A SHITTY OWNER. Sometimes you have to step in, like hmm, the last 7 years. Between Layden and Thomas, he shoulda been pesky and involved. HE BLOWS, the Knicks blow, and Its gonna be a long time before I believe that anyone can come here and do any good for this org.

Bottom line, its on Walsh, If he does what he is supposed to do, then Dolen will not be a problem.

[Snoogans]

Bottom line, its on Walsh, If he does what he is supposed to do, then Dolen will not be a problem.

and if he doesnt, Dolan still wont be a problem,a nd he still wont get fired. Walsh is gettin old now too. Its been a good 6 or 7 years since he was relevantly making most of the teams moves. Plus have you seen the list of his potentials for GM? BILLY FUCKIN KING ARE YOU KIDDING ME. The guy who once hired Isiah to even be mentioned with Billy King makes me hate the move already

[Bossanova]

Who would you have hired for president that was more qualified?

And Jerry West would never have come here

[Snoogans]

Who would you have hired for president that was more qualified?

And Jerry West would never have come here

Bill Simmons












Yes that is a joke. Though Id consider it, cause thats partly the way you need to run a team. Pretty much anyone Id want already works for someone, thats why guys available usually arent as good as people act. Im not in the poisition to make that hire, so I havent considered it enough. But it prob wouldnt be a guy who hasnt really done anything in years and once hired the problem im tryin to replace

[Knowledged_one]

Is Dolan a worse owner then Sterling with the Clippers? Or worse then the most hated man in baltimore Peter Angelos?

And sorry Snoogans Blatche is like 6'11 and young and up and coming so i guess the knicks wouldnt want him, same with Nick Young a young explosive shooting guard would not be able to help the knicks either. However, i think the Wizards could bring Harvey Grant out of retirement to sweeten the deal or maybe Darius Songalia

[Knowledged_one]

Also i gotta tell you guys it kills me a little each time you make fun of John Starks when the Wizards sucked in the late 80's and early 90's the Knicks were my favorite and i loved the passion that Starks played with, but I know he had that one bad game against Houston but come on time has passed even Boston is cheering for Buckner now, give Starks a break

[Kevin]

and if he doesnt, Dolan still wont be a problem,a nd he still wont get fired. Walsh is gettin old now too. Its been a good 6 or 7 years since he was relevantly making most of the teams moves. Plus have you seen the list of his potentials for GM? BILLY FUCKIN KING ARE YOU KIDDING ME. The guy who once hired Isiah to even be mentioned with Billy King makes me hate the move already

Last time i checked, The Sixers are in pretty good shape good young players and not bad cap wise. And it is Bill Kings doing not Stafanski.

[Snoogans]

wow, talking yourself into billy king now. So sad

[Kevin]

wow, talking yourself into billy king now. So sad

I am not talking myself into Billy King. And he isnt Walsh hand picked eventual successor anyway. Its this GM from Denver. Billy King will be brought in as a talent adviser of sorts which if you look at his draft picks, he has not done a bad job on.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I have been saying that

David Lee
Nate Robinson
Jamal Crawford

are the only players who should be kept after this season



Wilson Chandler* should now be added to that list

The rest can be forced into retirement and rob banks for all I care.

Malik Rose could be saved also, but only for a good team, he should not waste his niche talent on a bad team

[Knowledged_one]

I am not talking myself into Billy King. And he isnt Walsh hand picked eventual successor anyway. Its this GM from Denver. Billy King will be brought in as a talent adviser of sorts which if you look at his draft picks, he has not done a bad job on.

Kevin - Hate to disagree with you but here are the draft picks under the Billy King era

Not many good ones on this list, considering he ended up trading a majority of these guys

DraftGlossary / Convert to CSV / Convert to PRE / Click column headers to sort
Year Lg Round Pick Overall Player College
2007 NBA 1 12 12 Thaddeus Young Georgia Institute of Technology
2007 NBA 1 21 21 Daequan Cook Ohio State University
2007 NBA 1 30 30 Petteri Koponen
2007 NBA 2 8 38 Kyrylo Fesenko
2006 NBA 1 13 13 Thabo Sefolosha
2005 NBA 2 15 45 Louis Williams
2004 NBA 1 9 9 Andre Iguodala University of Arizona
2003 NBA 2 21 50 Paccelis Morlende
2002 NBA 1 16 16 Jiri Welsch
2002 NBA 2 16 44 Sam Clancy University of Southern California
2001 NBA 1 26 26 Samuel Dalembert Seton Hall University
2001 NBA 2 8 36 Damone Brown Syracuse University
2001 NBA 2 28 56 Alvin Jones Georgia Institute of Technology
2000 NBA 1 20 20 Speedy Claxton Hofstra University
2000 NBA 2 19 48 Mark Karcher Temple University
1999 NBA 2 18 47 Todd MacCulloch University of Washington
1998 NBA 1 8 8 Larry Hughes Saint Louis University
1998 NBA 2 8 37 Casey Shaw University of Toledo
1997 NBA 1 2 2 Keith Van Horn University of Utah
1997 NBA 2 5 33 Marko Milic
Year Lg Round Pick Overall Player College
1997 NBA 2 7 35 Kebu Stewart California State University, Bakersfield
1997 NBA 2 8 36 James Collins Florida State University

[Bossanova]

I have been saying that

David Lee
Nate Robinson
Jamal Crawford

are the only players who should be kept after this season



Wilson Chandler* should now be added to that list

The rest can be forced into retirement and rob banks for all I care.

Malik Rose could be saved also, but only for a good team, he should not waste his niche talent on a bad team

I am actually down on Lee. He doesnt play hard every night either. Yes when he does he has good outputs, but he has an attitude at times

[Knowledged_one]

Is Frederick Weis still under the Knicks control?

[Kevin]

Is Frederick Weis still under the Knicks control?

FO EVEA!

And as far as King. Hey you are not going to get them all right, But the majority of this young team that has been playing so well, was his picks, So i am going by the most recent work.

[Snoogans]

I am not talking myself into Billy King. And he isnt Walsh hand picked eventual successor anyway. Its this GM from Denver. Billy King will be brought in as a talent adviser of sorts which if you look at his draft picks, he has not done a bad job on.

funny you say the same thing about Isiah

[Snoogans]

Kevin - Hate to disagree with you but here are the draft picks under the Billy King era

Not many good ones on this list, considering he ended up trading a majority of these guys

DraftGlossary / Convert to CSV / Convert to PRE / Click column headers to sort
Year Lg Round Pick Overall Player College
2007 NBA 1 12 12 Thaddeus Young Georgia Institute of Technology
2007 NBA 1 21 21 Daequan Cook Ohio State University
2007 NBA 1 30 30 Petteri Koponen
2007 NBA 2 8 38 Kyrylo Fesenko
2006 NBA 1 13 13 Thabo Sefolosha
2005 NBA 2 15 45 Louis Williams
2004 NBA 1 9 9 Andre Iguodala University of Arizona
2003 NBA 2 21 50 Paccelis Morlende
2002 NBA 1 16 16 Jiri Welsch
2002 NBA 2 16 44 Sam Clancy University of Southern California
2001 NBA 1 26 26 Samuel Dalembert Seton Hall University
2001 NBA 2 8 36 Damone Brown Syracuse University
2001 NBA 2 28 56 Alvin Jones Georgia Institute of Technology
2000 NBA 1 20 20 Speedy Claxton Hofstra University
2000 NBA 2 19 48 Mark Karcher Temple University
1999 NBA 2 18 47 Todd MacCulloch University of Washington
1998 NBA 1 8 8 Larry Hughes Saint Louis University
1998 NBA 2 8 37 Casey Shaw University of Toledo
1997 NBA 1 2 2 Keith Van Horn University of Utah
1997 NBA 2 5 33 Marko Milic
Year Lg Round Pick Overall Player College
1997 NBA 2 7 35 Kebu Stewart California State University, Bakersfield
1997 NBA 2 8 36 James Collins Florida State University

cant get em all right kevin? Aside from Iguadala and Young just cause not enough time, I am not really floored by any of them. Billy King SUCKS

[Kevin]

funny you say the same thing about Isiah

No idea what you are talking about.

[Snoogans]

I am actually down on Lee. He doesnt play hard every night either. Yes when he does he has good outputs, but he has an attitude at times

Would you anymore when your coach does nothing but shit on you. Lee would kill himself and get no reward for it. So a couple of months ago he decided he is out of here and is now waiting for his contract year. I would be mad except its so awful, as a Fan Im doin the same thing. Waiting out the time til its long enough that I can be a free agent fan

[Kevin]

cant get em all right kevin? Aside from Iguadala and Young just cause not enough time, I am not really floored by any of them. Billy King SUCKS

Wow i just checked their roster on espn.com.. They have 3 fucking players that are doing anything.

[Knowledged_one]

They should trade their picks to the wizards to get Grunfeld to be the GM

[Snoogans]

Wow i just checked their roster on espn.com.. They have 3 fucking players that are doing anything.

and 2 of them came in the deal for iverson and its still not as good as having iverson. FUCK BILLY KING. FUCK THE KNICKS

[Knowledged_one]

Some of the Billy King picks i dont get like Larry Hughes why draft a player who at the time was identical to Allen Iverson?

Players drafted next after Hughes - Dirk and Paul Pierce

Jiri Welch #16 after him Could have had Tayshaun Prince

Speedy Claxton #20 who at the time of the draft had a torn ACL - could have had Micheal Redd

But i will disagree with you on Iverson - he had to be traded for the betterment of both the 76ers and Iverson

[Doctor Z]

.ISIAH IS FIRED!!! PARTY IN THE STREETS!!!

http://www.phonebookoftheworld.com/iraq/saddam-statue.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41191000/jpg/_41191177_ap300oldlady.jpg

[spoon]

.ISIAH IS FIRED!!! PARTY IN THE STREETS!!!

http://www.phonebookoftheworld.com/iraq/saddam-statue.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41191000/jpg/_41191177_ap300oldlady.jpg

Can't find it, is this true?

[Doctor Z]

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=nba/news/acn4145355.htm

[cougarjake13]

thank god isiah is gone

[Sinestro]

They were just starting to turn the corner. Shoulda let him finish what he started.

[Bossanova]

I was starting to get pissed at 4 because I had heard maybe, but there was no word. Then out of nowhere, awful ESPN gives me the news. Greatest day in Knick and in the past 10 years

[Kevin]

I was starting to get pissed at 4 because I had heard maybe, but there was no word. Then out of nowhere, awful ESPN gives me the news. Greatest day in Knick and in the past 10 years

Stephan A Smith has to be the dumbest person ever.

He said that the fact that he is still in the organization leads him to believe that he will one day be the successor to Walsh.. WHAT?

And that someone else will give him a coaching job... WHAT???

[Bossanova]

Stephan A Smith has to be the dumbest person ever.

He said that the fact that he is still in the organization leads him to believe that he will one day be the successor to Walsh.. WHAT?

And that someone else will give him a coaching job... WHAT???

Yeah, I saw that. I just shook my head. I don't understand him being an advisor though. He was fired for poor decisions, so why would you listen to his advice/ideas

[Kevin]

Yeah, I saw that. I just shook my head. I don't understand him being an advisor though. He was fired for poor decisions, so why would you listen to his advice/ideas

Its just saying we don't wanna pay him 6mil to do nothing so lets slap a stupid tag on him. Or they just have not made a settlement yet.

[Bossanova]

Its just saying we don't wanna pay him 6mil to do nothing so lets slap a stupid tag on him. Or they just have not made a settlement yet.

They owe him 18 mil?

[Kevin]

They owe him 18 mil?

Yea, he signd like a 4 year 24mil deal in the middle of last year. Because they had 2 good weeks.

I think everyones goal in life is to get Jim Dolan to like you. You will be set for life.

[Bossanova]

unreal

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I wish the Knicks would garnish his pay with the Saunders settlement

[TheGameHHH]

Figured I would start a thread for devoted Knick fans. Ok, so 1-1 so far and only down 6 to the Nuggets at the half. They haven't looked bad this year so far. They could actually gel together nicely and make a playoff push

Boss, I dont mean to rag on you, but in hindsight this statement is hilarious. Especially the last sentence.

[Bossanova]

Boss, I dont mean to rag on you, but in hindsight this statement is hilarious. Especially the last sentence.

Thats the meanest thing anyone has ever done to me.

[Kevin]

Boss, I dont mean to rag on you, but in hindsight this statement is hilarious. Especially the last sentence.

We were on the right track until someone decided to come in and de rail the whole year..

[Bossanova]

We were on the right track until someone decided to come in and de rail the whole year..

Jinxy opened hs fucking mouth

[TheGameHHH]

We were on the right track until someone decided to come in and de rail the whole year..

Hey, I dont think that bitch deserved 11 million dollars either for some shitty sexual "harrassment" but the law decided otherwise.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

:lol: my jinx got Isiah relieved of his duties and a nice draft pick

you are fucking welcome

[Bossanova]

:lol: my jinx got Isiah relieved of his duties and a nice draft pick

you are fucking welcome

Well there goes the lottery pick. Without the top two spots there is no good pick

[Kevin]

:lol: my jinx got Isiah relieved of his duties and a nice draft pick

you are fucking welcome

You KNOW we are fucking getting pick 14 now right? Thanks ALOT!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

fuck the Knicks and all of you

[Bossanova]

Pick #6? What the fuck is that dog shit? Hippo I swear to fuck if you said they would get number 1.


And the fucking Bulls of all teams gets #1

[Kevin]

Pick #6? What the fuck is that dog shit? Hippo I swear to fuck if you said they would get number 1.


And the fucking Bulls of all teams gets #1

Yea, i put the blame square on Hippos for this.

[Snoogans]

So 6'9 italian swingman Sajghrjuisahg SDhndsjl;frlh is who they say we will draft. WONDERFUL

GO HORNETS GO

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Yea, i put the blame square on Hippos for this.


fuck the Knicks

they dont deserve the pick


they need to get rid of Curry, Randpolph and Que Rich before any good luck will come their way

[Snoogans]

fuck the Knicks

they dont deserve the pick


they need to get rid of Curry, Randpolph and Que Rich before any good luck will come their way

yea. Ill give you a billion dollars if you can do that all

Q Rich is UNMOVABLE. HE HAS AN UNINSURED CONTRACT

Curry isnt going anywhere cause seriously, who would take him? The only one you could deal is randolph, cause he still has upside as long as he isnt stuck with Eddy Curry's disease.

TRADE RANDOLPH TO MEMPHIS FOR JASON COLLINS AND BRIAN CARDINAL
Memphis almost cant say no and both of those other contracts come off before 2010

[Ritalin]

Pick #6? What the fuck is that dog shit? Hippo I swear to fuck if you said they would get number 1.


And the fucking Bulls of all teams gets #1

Yea, i put the blame square on Hippos for this.

BWahahahaha!

And, just a reminder:

When asked by a reporter in 2003 to describe what Eddy Curry could do to improve his rebounding, Coach Skiles responded: "Jump."

FACE!

[Snoogans]

BWahahahaha!

And, just a reminder:

When asked by a reporter in 2003 to describe what Eddy Curry could do to improve his rebounding, Coach Skiles responded: "Jump."

FACE!

I'm 5'7 and I cant dunk a basketball. But I TRULY believe I can stuff one on Eddy Curry. Just cause it was Curry in the lane, all physics of my body would some how pump up and get me high enough to put it down

[Knowledged_one]

I saw this on the SI mock draft oh joy for you knick fans

6 SF Danilo Gallinari Armani Jeans Milan (Italy) -- 6-9 221
If the Knicks don't trade this pick, they'll go for the best international player in the draft -- and it won't be because Mike D'Antoni used to play with Gallinari's father on the Italian championship clubs in Milan. It will be because Gallinari is a better prospect than 2006 No. 1 pick Andrea Bargnani of Italy, he has been a 19-year-old leader of a Euroleague team and he has the athleticism, versatility and personality to succeed in New York.

[RingWraith]

It's lame that the NBA couldn't do "the right thing" and make sure the Knicks get the #1 or #2 pick.
But do agree they should start getting some international/europeon players on this team. Almost all playoff teams have at least one or two players that are from other countries.

[Snoogans]

Fuck that. As good as these foreign players may be, THEY ARE ALL FLOPPING PUSSIES. If I have to see Tony Parker fall down like he got shot one more time when no one touched him im gonna stick manu ginobli up his ass so neither of them can dive around anymore.

[Knowledged_one]

do you know how happy i am that the wizards didnt end up trading for zach randolph

[Snoogans]

do you know how happy i am that the wizards didnt end up trading for zach randolph

Basically Randolph can still play offense and rebound. He would work ok on a team where he is the primary inside option and the team is good enough on D that he can be the one liability. problem is the Knicks have 10 defensive liabilities. Anyway I say Memphis cause Collins and Cardinal are just fuckin terrible, plus Chris Wallace is Chris Wallace. Im sure they have to take that offense and rebounding only giving up those 2 and taking on 3 years instead of their 1 and 2


And the knicks get a lot more cap space a bit sooner

[King Hippos Bandaid]

watch D'Antoni (Walsh) and trade Marbury ( who only has 1 year left) for Barbosa and Diaw, so we can be in Debt till 2035

[Snoogans]

watch D'Antoni (Walsh) and trade Marbury ( who only has 1 year left) for Barbosa and Diaw, so we can be in Debt till 2035

well, thanks dickhead. I wonder what the chance is now that happens, 3000000%?

[hammersavage]

i think they hold onto steph. it really sounded like Walsh was serious about getting way under the cap to make a run at Lebron/Wade in 2 years.

[Knowledged_one]

watch D'Antoni (Walsh) and trade Marbury ( who only has 1 year left) for Barbosa and Diaw, so we can be in Debt till 2035

KHB come on you are better then that, no chance the Suns want to deal with Marbury for a 2nd time. And do you think that he would be happy backing up Nash?

Or are you just doing schtick?

[Kevin]

BWahahahaha!

And, just a reminder:

When asked by a reporter in 2003 to describe what Eddy Curry could do to improve his rebounding, Coach Skiles responded: "Jump."

FACE!

Good for Bulls fans. You got the #1 pick

Bad News. John Paxton us making it.

[Bossanova]

Good news. Another point gaurd signed today, fucking Chris Duhon

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8312466/Report:-Duhon-agrees-to-deal-with-Knicks

[Kevin]

Good news. Another point gaurd signed today, fucking Chris Duhon

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8312466/Report:-Duhon-agrees-to-deal-with-Knicks

6mil a year...

When i grow up, i wanna be a crappy PG.

[cougarjake13]

what position does the italian guy play ??

[Kevin]

what position does the italian guy play ??

SF/PF. He is about 6'9 now but they say at the rate he is growing, he will be about 6'11 when he fully grows.

[Bossanova]

A fucking guinea:annoyed:

[Kevin]

A fucking guinea:annoyed:

Not a fake Italian Guinea like a Brooklyn or Jersey, He is a real Italian

[Bossanova]

Not a fake Italian Guinea like a Brooklyn or Jersey, He is a real Italian

does it matter?

[Kevin]

does it matter?

I have been to Italy, and..


































No.

[Bossanova]

If you were going to sign a PG, why not draft Augustine from Texas? He would be cheaper and is better

[Kevin]

If you were going to sign a PG, why not draft Augustine from Texas? He would be cheaper and is better

Augustine is a career back up pg.. Once Rose and Westbrook were gone, there was no pg worth taking over a guy with the upside of Galinari.

[Bossanova]

Augustine is a career back up pg.. Once Rose and Westbrook were gone, there was no pg worth taking over a guy with the upside of Galinari.

So is Duhon. This dego better fucking do well, I am sick of this team

[Kevin]

So is Duhon. This dego better fucking do well, I am sick of this team

In fairness to Duhan, Paxon is a terrible talent evaluator.

[Bossanova]

In fairness to Duhan, Paxon is a terrible talent evaluator.

Yeah your right. He dropped the ball on Curry

[Kevin]

Yeah your right. He dropped the ball on Curry

Curry, Trading Brand, Trading Chandler, Picking Thomas over Aldridge. Noah sucks. He is terrible. I would not be shocked if Rose sucks, just because he picked him.

[Bossanova]

True, but Brand is the only guy from Duke that amounted to anything in the NBA. And DO NOT say Grant Hill

[Snoogans]

True, but Brand is the only guy from Duke that amounted to anything in the NBA. And DO NOT say Grant Hill

Grant Hill was awesome when he was healthy, dont hate on him. And Battier is turning into a pretty good player. Deng was good but last year he played pretty shitty, so we still gotta wait on that. They had a few. Not many, but a few

[hammersavage]

True, but Brand is the only guy from Duke that amounted to anything in the NBA. And DO NOT say Grant Hill

I'm gonna tell Carlos Boozer the bad news.

And Battier is top 3 defensive players in the league.

[Kevin]

I'm gonna tell Carlos Boozer the bad news.

And Battier is top 3 defensive players in the league.

Forgot about Boozer, good call, Hammer.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Stupid move with the Duhon Signing, He cant hit a jump shot to save his life

I'd give Marbury a Chance to start

A: He is on his walking year, players seem to have great season when more money is on the line

B: Isiah is gone

C: Isiah is gone

[Kevin]

Stupid move with the Duhon Signing, He cant hit a jump shot to save his life

I'd give Marbury a Chance to start

A: He is on his walking year, players seem to have great season when more money is on the line

B: Isiah is gone

C: Isiah is gone


Chris Duhan will now turn into Chris Paul. Thanks Hippos.

[cougarjake13]

True, but Brand is the only guy from Duke that amounted to anything in the NBA. And DO NOT say Grant Hill

corey maggette

[Snoogans]

corey maggette

SO far we got Magette, Boozer, Deng, Battier, and regardless, Grant Hill was fuckin good. Way to fuck that one up Boss

[Bossanova]

SO far we got Magette, Boozer, Deng, Battier, and regardless, Grant Hill was fuckin good. Way to fuck that one up Boss

Suck it Snoogs. I am not putting Maggette in the mix. Grant Hill was great for 3 years. I too forgot about Boozer. Deng, fucking DENG. Stop it.

Besides it was a stupid tongue in cheek comment. Do you think Duhon will be good for the Kincks?

[Bossanova]

And another thing, fuck you. you guys mentioned 5 players. Hold the presses. Duke has five top 500 players of all time. What a turn over of good players with their great school history.

[Snoogans]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA relax fool we are busting your shitty team likin balls.

And no, I dont think Duhon will be good, but I do think he will attempt to run an offense better then Marbury and the 9000 shots he would take. FUCK EM ALL at this point.

GO HORNETS

[Kevin]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA relax fool we are busting your shitty team likin balls.

And no, I dont think Duhon will be good, but I do think he will attempt to run an offense better then Marbury and the 9000 shots he would take. FUCK EM ALL at this point.

GO LAKERS

Yes, Yes, we know, you are a Laker fan. We knew it the first 300 times you have told us.

[Snoogans]

Yes, Yes, we know, you are a Laker fan. We knew it the first 300 times you have told us.

you havent beat this dead horse enough?

[Kevin]

you havent beat this dead horse enough?

Nope, sorry Mr Laker.

And when have you known me not too?

[Snoogans]

Nope, sorry Mr Laker.

And when have you known me not too?

its not a good thing though. Just so you know

[Kevin]

its not a good thing though. Just so you know

Eh, whatever entertains me.

[Kevin]

And you guys all forgot the great J.J Reddick.

[cougarjake13]

jay williams

[Kevin]

jay williams

That was some expensive motorcycle..

[TheGameHHH]

you havent beat this dead horse enough?

I'm gonna buy me and you matching kobe jerseys.......do u want the sunday whites or the home gold?

[Snoogans]

I'm gonna buy me and you matching kobe jerseys.......do u want the sunday whites or the home gold?

White. The gold dye may give off some kinda toxic fumes when I burn the fuckin thing

[TheGameHHH]

White. The gold dye may give off some kinda toxic fumes when I burn the fuckin thing

great idea, we'll burn them after they win the 2008-2009 NBA Title, then we'll get new jerseys each season!!! maybe Gasol jerseys for '09

[Bossanova]

great idea, we'll burn them after they win the 2008-2009 NBA Title, then we'll get new jerseys each season!!! maybe Gasol jerseys for '09

When they win can Kobe do a Shaq hows my cock taste rap?

[TheGameHHH]

When they win can Kobe do a Shaq hows my cock taste rap?

i have a feeling kobe is writing the NBA's version of Ether as we speak, unleashing it next year after the mighty lakers sweep the finals.

[Bossanova]

i have a feeling kobe is writing the NBA's version of Ether as we speak, unleashing it next year after the mighty lakers sweep the finals.

makes sense, being as Jay-Z and Shaq have the same awful flow

[Snoogans]

i have a feeling kobe is writing the NBA's version of Ether as we speak, unleashing it next year after the mighty lakers sweep the finals.

Dont ever compare any NBA player rapping to NAS. What the fuck is wrong with you

[TheGameHHH]

Dont ever compare any NBA player rapping to NAS. What the fuck is wrong with you

"I float like butterfly, sting like jungle bee" isn't a Nas-worthy line? thats crazy talk

[Snoogans]

"I float like butterfly, sting like jungle bee" isn't a Nas-worthy line? thats crazy talk

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yea just like NAS

[Bossanova]

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yea just like NAS

Not only has NAS been one of my favorites for many years, I believe that video made me appreciate and love him more. I now know Kobe raped that girl

[Kevin]

Not only has NAS been one of my favorites for many years, I believe that video made me appreciate and love him more. I now know Kobe raped that girl

Nas is just a N...































Nasty rapper.

[cougarjake13]

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy


this is what we need



the knicks will be relevant again


Knicks-acquire-Ewing-Jr.-from-Rockets (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8503002/Knicks-acquire-Ewing-Jr.-from-Rockets)




ohhhh its just junior,





nevermind

[Snoogans]

Frederick Weis cant have been that bad

[cougarjake13]

Frederick Weis cant have been that bad

hey

at least we got something for him




btw

how long does a team hold draft rights to a player ???

weiss was drafted in 99 i think