2009 NBA Offseason Discussion

[Snoogans]

John David Booty could be had.

ANYONE OF THOSE BUMS COULD BE HAD

[hammersavage]

Cassel, Palmer and Sanchez will cost ya

[epo]

on the knicks, they would stupidly play him at the 1. He is too small to play the 2. Its gonna be another Marbury, im tellin you


TAKE JONNY FLYNN. He fits great and was meant to play at MSG

JONNY FUCKIN FLYNN

If the Knicks don't take Flynn....the Bucks definitely are.

[hammersavage]

Milwaukee has a team?

[Snoogans]

If the Knicks don't take Flynn....the Bucks definitely are.

excuse me, big markets are talkin here. run along, son

[spoon]

Cassel, Palmer and Sanchez will cost ya

Give Cassel and Sanchez one year with their new teams and see how that effects their "value" moving forward. Hell, Palmer hasn't even been close to good since the injury in teh playoffs.

[hammersavage]

excuse me, big markets are talkin here. run along, son

C'mon, lets talk about what Memphis will do.

Beat it, epo

[epo]

C'mon, lets talk about what Memphis will do.

Beat it, epo

Go to bed before I hit you again.

DON'T MAKE ME HIT YOU!

[Snoogans]

Go to bed before I hit you again.

DON'T MAKE ME HIT YOU!

who can go to bed now? There is only like 4 hours left to get in bets on Wimbledon (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=81717&highlight=announcer)

[epo]

who can go to bed now? There is only like 4 hours left to get in bets on Wimbledon

Snoogans, you are the good kid...you can stay up all night. Hammer needs to go to bed, BECAUSE HE'S A FUCKING BRAT!

[Snoogans]

Ricky Rubio is gonna bust SO HARD

[epo]

I'll state right now that the Milwaukee Bucks will take PG Johnny Flynn in the first round and SG Jerel McNeal in the second round.

[epo]

Ricky Rubio is gonna bust SO HARD

Not as hard as Blake Griffin.

[Snoogans]

I'll state right now that the Milwaukee Bucks will take PG Johnny Flynn in the first round and SG Jerel McNeal in the second round.

just like the packers were gonna take kenny britt.

Get out of here, fool. AND I STILL DIDNT GET MY MOVIE

[Snoogans]

Not as hard as Blake Griffin.

yea but thats not gonna be Blake's fault

[epo]

just like the packers were gonna take kenny britt.

Get out of here, fool. AND I STILL DIDNT GET MY MOVIE

How do you feel about the Giants not taking Britt? I can't remember.

And did you PM me your address? I've been too busy lately...sorry about that.

[epo]

yea but thats not gonna be Blake's fault

Griffin would fail anywhere. He has ZERO game outside of 10 feet and that shit don't play in the association.

[Snoogans]

How do you feel about the Giants not taking Britt? I can't remember.

And did you PM me your address? I've been too busy lately...sorry about that.

YOU SHOULD HAVE IT FOOL. What a bum

[Snoogans]

Griffin would fail anywhere. He has ZERO game outside of 10 feet and that shit don't play in the association.

Thats double the range of dwight howard

just sayin

[epo]

Thats double the range of dwight howard

just sayin

Which is true, but he's no Dwight Howard.

[hammersavage]

Griffin would fail anywhere. He has ZERO game outside of 10 feet and that shit don't play in the association.

He's Carlos Boozer in the right situation. The Clippers are NOT that situation.

[epo]

He's Carlos Boozer in the right situation. The Clippers are NOT that situation.

In the right situation he's an overrated PF? Congrats on this draft sucking balls.

[hammersavage]

fuck off, dad

[Snoogans]

In the right situation he's an overrated PF? Congrats on this draft sucking balls.

the only good thing out of this draft in 3 years will be a few good PGs, and none will be named Curry or Rubio

[hammersavage]

the only good thing out of this draft in 3 years will be a few good PGs, and none will be named Curry or Rubio

And Earl Clark

[epo]

the only good thing out of this draft in 3 years will be a few good PGs, and none will be named Curry or Rubio

Lawson has a better chance to be good than those two. What a terrible year to have a top 5 pick.

[Snoogans]

Lawson has a better chance to be good than those two. What a terrible year to have a top 5 pick.

I think Holiday and Flynn will also be good, assuming Flynn doesnt get stock on the Bucks

[epo]

I think Holiday and Flynn will also be good, assuming Flynn doesnt get stock on the Bucks

And you know who is gonna be horrible? Thabeet! He will re-define the word "bust".

[Snoogans]

And you know who is gonna be horrible? Thabeet! He will re-define the word "bust".

wow, Darko?

[epo]

wow, Darko?

I think Thabeet will be worse, because even the Pistons knew the gamble that Darko was. Some people think Thabeet might be good.

[hammersavage]

I think Holiday and Flynn will also be good, assuming Flynn doesnt get stock on the Bucks

Jrue Holiday will blow. I'd rather take Brandon Jennings if I'm gonna take somebody raw that early. Shit, get Toney Douglas in the 2nd round.

[Snoogans]

Ricki Davis?

[hammersavage]

I think Thabeet will be worse, because even the Pistons knew the gamble that Darko was. Some people think Thabeet might be good.

Thabeet will have a career on shot blocking alone. He's only played basketball for a few years, he needs to learn from a center. The Grizz should hire Deke as a special assistant if they take Thabeet now that his career is over.

I wouldn't take him 2nd though, that's for sure. But the Grizzlies have the dumbest GM in the league, or 2nd dumbest max.

[epo]

Thabeet will have a career on shot blocking alone. He's only played basketball for a few years, he needs to learn from a center. The Grizz should hire Deke as a special assistant if they take Thabeet now that his career is over.

I wouldn't take him 2nd though, that's for sure. But the Grizzlies have the dumbest GM in the league, or 2nd dumbest max.

Those 6 fouls he collects in 3 minutes will be outstanding. Thabeet is a joke.

[hammersavage]

Those 6 fouls he collects in 3 minutes will be outstanding. Thabeet is a joke.

I'd give my one good nut to see the Bucks trade up for him. Just so you feel pain

[epo]

I'd give my one good nut to see the Bucks trade up for him. Just so you feel pain

That's the dumbest thing I've heard all day. And you've said alot of stupid shit today.

[Snoogans]

Whats wrong, epo? Why all the hate? Did Thabeet reneg on a commit to wisconsin or something?

[TheGameHHH]

Shaq on his way to Cleveland http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4285489

[Suspect Chin]

Shaq on his way to Cleveland http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4285489

Who knew?

[epo]

Whats wrong, epo? Why all the hate? Did Thabeet reneg on a commit to wisconsin or something?

Not at all. He's just a total fucking stiff and it actually painful to watch. His footwork is hideous, he has stone hands, he'll get pushed around in the association and has no offensive game.

Great #2 overall pick Memphis. Jerkoffs.

[Snoogans]

Not at all. He's just a total fucking stiff and it actually painful to watch. His footwork is hideous, he has stone hands, he'll get pushed around in the association and has no offensive game.

Great #2 overall pick Memphis. Jerkoffs.

chris kaman made 75 million dollars doin the same thing

[Kevin]

From ESPN.com


The Grizzlies aren't just entertaining the idea of parting with the No. 2 overall pick in Thursday's draft. They've also engaged in advanced discussions with the Knicks that should put former No. 2 overall pick Darko Milicic in New York by week's end ... unless Memphis winds up needing Milicic's expiring contract in another draft-related trade.

Sources say that the proposed swap would send Milicic to the Knicks for swingman Quentin Richardson and cash. Milicic is scheduled to earn $7.5 million next season in the final year of a three-year deal he received from the Griz in 2007; Richardson has a player option for next season at $8.7 million.

If the teams go through with the trade, Milicic would join his fourth team since Detroit infamously gambled on him in 2003 with the pick immediately after LeBron James ... and right before Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade. But it's believed that Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni hasn't been able to kick his long-standing interest in seeing what he can get out of the perpetually, uh, casual 24-year-old. Despite his unquestioned standing as one of the biggest draft busts in league history, Milicic would have to be considered an intriguing one-year rental for the go-go-go Knicks given his length, mobility, passing skills and age.

Snoogans would be inconsolable..

[Snoogans]

of course they are gonna do that. Then they wouldnt take Flynn. They would take that FUCKIN BUM THABEET. Or worse, RICKY RUBIO


GODDAMN IT. LOOK WHAT YOU FUCKIN DID HIPPO. WHY THE FUCK DID YOU HAVE TO OPEN YOUR GODDAMN MOUTH

[Snoogans]

i was just informed this is not a pick swap. Just those players. I guess then it doesnt really matter

[QuentinRichardson]

From ESPN.com


The Grizzlies aren't just entertaining the idea of parting with the No. 2 overall pick in Thursday's draft. They've also engaged in advanced discussions with the Knicks that should put former No. 2 overall pick Darko Milicic in New York by week's end ... unless Memphis winds up needing Milicic's expiring contract in another draft-related trade.

Sources say that the proposed swap would send Milicic to the Knicks for swingman Quentin Richardson and cash. Milicic is scheduled to earn $7.5 million next season in the final year of a three-year deal he received from the Griz in 2007; Richardson has a player option for next season at $8.7 million.

If the teams go through with the trade, Milicic would join his fourth team since Detroit infamously gambled on him in 2003 with the pick immediately after LeBron James ... and right before Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade. But it's believed that Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni hasn't been able to kick his long-standing interest in seeing what he can get out of the perpetually, uh, casual 24-year-old. Despite his unquestioned standing as one of the biggest draft busts in league history, Milicic would have to be considered an intriguing one-year rental for the go-go-go Knicks given his length, mobility, passing skills and age.

Snoogans would be inconsolable..

What kinda food they be havin down in Memphis?

[HBox]

What kinda food they be havin down in Memphis?

I hear they have decent barbeque.

[A.J.]

Thabeet will have a career on shot blocking alone. He's only played basketball for a few years, he needs to learn from a center. The Grizz should hire Deke as a special assistant if they take Thabeet now that his career is over.

I wouldn't take him 2nd though, that's for sure. But the Grizzlies have the dumbest GM in the league, or 2nd dumbest max.

Thabeet worries me about becoming the next Yinka Dare, Manute Bol or Shawn Bradley.

[Crispy123]

Reports: Suns agree to deal Shaquille O'Neal to Cavs to join LeBron James
(http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2009/06/25/2009-06-25_shaquille_oneal_to_cavaliers.html#ixzz0JRzKU9iq&D)

Looks like the Cavs have the big man/

[hammersavage]

Can we get another link to that story please?

[TheGameHHH]

Can we get another link to that story please?

to be fair, nobody posted a link before me. ya'll were just talking about it, i got you the official link hook-up. i do that shit.

[underdog]

Can we get another link to that story please?

I'm going to start a new thread about it.

[hammersavage]

I'm going to start a new thread about it.

please put faggot in the title. 'That Faggot Shaq traded...'

[Snoogans]

that would be hilarious

[underdog]

please put faggot in the title. 'That Faggot Shaq traded...'

This just made :lol:

[hammersavage]

WOW, top 10 suits in draft history on SportsCenter. Fantastic

[saturn]

The experts don't think the Shaq trade will fix anything:

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/david_aldridge/06/25/shaq.trade.analysis/index.html?cid=playoff1

[hammersavage]

I wouldn't say I'm an expert

[PhishHead]

I wouldn't say I'm an expert

You are an expert on sitting at home while others work. :thumbup:

[hammersavage]

I'll take what I can get

[King Hippos Bandaid]

looks like the Knicks will also have the 29th pick (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4285133)


says they want another guard, Id try to use both picks to get the 4th 5or 6th pick, so they can get a top tier player

[hammersavage]

They spent $3 million to get that pick. Plus the salary they have to pay who they draft being a first round pick. That is a waste of money in this draft.

Get Toney Douglas or Jodie Meeks.

[Snoogans]

looks like the Knicks will also have the 29th pick (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4285133)


says they want another guard, Id try to use both picks to get the 4th 5or 6th pick, so they can get a top tier player

you arent gonna get much better at 4 5 or 6 then you are at 8. Jonny Flynn will be there at 8


JONNY FUCKIN FLYNN BETTER BE THERE AT 8

[King Hippos Bandaid]

you arent gonna get much better at 4 5 or 6 then you are at 8. Jonny Flynn will be there at 8


JONNY FUCKIN FLYNN BETTER BE THERE AT 8


Flynn is no consolation prize, ill be a little disappointed we couldnt get a top 6'er , but will be quite happy with Flynn


good luck to the Grizzles, that tall mother fucker from UCONN should be called Darko because he is a dud

[PhishHead]

Flynn is no consolation prize, ill be a little disappointed we couldnt get a top 6'er , but will be quite happy with Flynn


good luck to the Grizzles, that tall mother fucker from UCONN should be called Darko because he is a dud

Who do you consider better than Flynn that the Knicks could grab? Rubio? Rubio is garbage with no speed and actually still has a huge buyout that will not be settled until october with no guarantee that he will play this year. Jennings? Still raw and not an NBA body, Flynn has an NBA body. The only other sorta-pg is Evans.

[Snoogans]

Who do you consider better than Flynn that the Knicks could grab? Rubio? Rubio is garbage with no speed and actually still has a huge buyout that will not be settled until october with no guarantee that he will play this year. Jennings? Still raw and not an NBA body, Flynn has an NBA body. The only other sorta-pg is Evans.

The only thing id accept in place of Flynn is takin a shot on Holiday

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Who do you consider better than Flynn that the Knicks could grab? Rubio? Rubio is garbage with no speed and actually still has a huge buyout that will not be settled until october with no guarantee that he will play this year. Jennings? Still raw and not an NBA body, Flynn has an NBA body. The only other sorta-pg is Evans.


was thinking Evans


Rubio and Curry are Eye Candy (not as cute as you though) and I usually fall for the hype

[PhishHead]

The only thing id accept in place of Flynn is takin a shot on Holiday

Another long shot and time to develop it all depends on how much time the knicks want to invest. Derozen would be another great project to work on in Dantoni's system. I would rather have DeRozen running the floor and either driving or shooting than Holiday in my opinion.

was thinking Evans


Rubio and Curry are Eye Candy (not as cute as you though) and I usually fall for the hype

Evans would be great but I think wolves definitely nab him. Curry is a shooter nothing more nothing less. Rubio is a young kid that is slow.

I just want the nets to get either DeRozen or Henderson I would be happy with either.

Jordan Hill would be awesome too. If Knicks or Nets got Hill he would be great on both teams.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Another long shot and time to develop it all depends on how much time the knicks want to invest. Derozen would be another great project to work on in Dantoni's system. I would rather have DeRozen running the floor and either driving or shooting than Holiday in my opinion.



Evans would be great but I think wolves definitely nab him. Curry is a shooter nothing more nothing less. Rubio is a young kid that is slow.

I just want the nets to get either DeRozen or Henderson I would be happy with either.

Jordan Hill would be awesome too. If Knicks or Nets got Hill he would be great on both teams.


Henderson more Duke has been hit or miss recently, but GH is a pure shooter, damn lottery balls, why cant we be 5 or 6

[Snoogans]

Another long shot and time to develop it all depends on how much time the knicks want to invest. Derozen would be another great project to work on in Dantoni's system. I would rather have DeRozen running the floor and either driving or shooting than Holiday in my opinion.



.

thats fair. We pretty much know where I stand, anyway


JONNY FUCKIN FLYNN

[hammersavage]

Jrue Holiday will be terrible. Take Tyreke if he is there. Anyone from Chester PA is worth a look

[Snoogans]

Jrue Holiday will be terrible. Take Tyreke if he is there. Anyone from Chester PA is worth a look

maybe the knicks can sign Bam Margera, then. At least he wont shy away from contact

[hammersavage]

Don Vito and the USC QB's are available

[PhishHead]

thats fair. We pretty much know where I stand, anyway


JONNY FUCKIN FLYNN

I agree...NBA ready body, proven competitor and can work the floor.

Jrue Holiday will be terrible. Take Tyreke if he is there. Anyone from Chester PA is worth a look

Because Jrue had a bad year at UCLA he will be bad? He is a project like most freshman kids. No less chance of passing or failing as say Jennings or even Tyreke. Tyreke is awesome but will not drop to 8th and definitely is not a sure thing most teams arent even sure if he can play the 1 or 2. he can't shoot well enough for the 2 and 1 doesnt really have passing capabilities. Also jrue is going to drop into the 20's so no reason to take him at 8.

maybe the knicks can sign Bam Margera, then. At least he wont shy away from contact

hey why not, at least you would have one guy that would take a charge.

[hammersavage]

Because Jrue had a bad year at UCLA he will be bad? He is a project like most freshman kids. No less chance of passing or failing as say Jennings or even Tyreke. Tyreke is awesome but will not drop to 8th and definitely is not a sure thing most teams arent even sure if he can play the 1 or 2. he can't shoot well enough for the 2 and 1 doesnt really have passing capabilities. Also jrue is going to drop into the 20's so no reason to take him at 8.

Yea, that has something to do with it. The times I watched him he showed my nothing that made me thought he would be an NBA player. Even Derozen who is a project showed me something. He wasn't half the player Tyreke was. And his shot needs a lot of work. I've seen him project between 6 and 20. There are much better guards in the draft.

[HBox]

Vince Carter may be on his way to Orlando. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4287197)

The New Jersey Nets are in serious talks with the Magic about a deal that will send Vince Carter to Orlando for Rafer Alston, Tony Battie and Courtney Lee, two league sources told ESPN.com.

[hammersavage]

Vince Carter may be on his way to Orlando. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4287197)

Get that bum the fuck out of here. That was a disaster from the moment they signed him. I don't know how Rafer fits with Devon but we can figure it out later. Courtney Lee can play.

[hammersavage]

As for the Nets, the move is a cost-cutting measure. Both Alston and Battie are in the last year of their contracts, and trading for them would shave $16.5 million off New Jersey's roster in the summer of 2010 and put the Nets well below the salary cap.

The deal, if completed, would also give the Nets a young, promising shooting guard in Lee.

I didn't know they were both expiring. Hello Mr. James!

[PhishHead]

I didn't know they were both expiring. Hello Mr. James!

I love the nets but there is no way we are getting Lebron, just not happening.

Rafer will play backup pg and get pissed off and start a fight in the locker room like every other team he is on.

[hammersavage]

I love the nets but there is no way we are getting Lebron, just not happening.

Rafer will play backup pg and get pissed off and start a fight in the locker room like every other team he is on.

But only for one year! I don't think he's coming either, but they are building the arena and they are officially in Brooklyn in 2012. And the Jay-Z connect. I can dream

[PhishHead]

But only for one year! I don't think he's coming either, but they are building the arena and they are officially in Brooklyn in 2012. And the Jay-Z connect. I can dream

It still could go to appeals court again and possible if ground breaking is not by december he loses the tax free bond money so Nets could move to the prudential center, yea newark will attract all the top free agents, ratner will probably sell the team then also. Barclays can cancel naming rights as well in November in ground isnt broken yet, so yea things looking great on that front.

[hammersavage]

how can a team pass on this hair?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ofP_2-JG6zY/SQCP0D9PkfI/AAAAAAAAACA/773fbNIf36Y/s320/brandon_jennings_high_top.jpg

[PhishHead]

just got my food for the draft, meatball parm, calzone and fries.

[Snoogans]

just got my food for the draft, meatball parm, calzone and fries.

what the fuck? No phone call? Where's my food?

[PhishHead]

what the fuck? No phone call? Where's my food?

you know I thought about calling you but then I saw your away message said you were out shopping.

It is your own fault.

[Snoogans]

you know I thought about calling you but then I saw your away message said you were out shopping.

It is your own fault.

Yea, I forgot that cell phones stop working when people go out.

[PhishHead]

Yea, I forgot that cell phones stop working when people go out.

i have tmobile, mine does.

[Snoogans]

i have tmobile, mine does.

Yea, im smarter. People can always hear me now

[PhishHead]

why the fuck does the draft start so late, fuck the west coast.

[hammersavage]

30 minutes til the broadcast

[Snoogans]

Every important sports thing should be east coast. No one in California gives a shit, anyway

[cougarjake13]

why the fuck does the draft start so late, fuck the west coast.

7 isnt bad



it coulda been 8 or 9

[PhishHead]

7 isnt bad



it coulda been 8 or 9

coverage starts at 7 but draft is 7:30 till 12. I cant stay up that late I am old.

[Snoogans]

coverage starts at 7 but draft is 7:30 till 12. I cant stay up that late I am old.

faggot

[PhishHead]

not sure if anyone posted this

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4287197

it is official. I say good riddance.

[cougarjake13]

coverage starts at 7 but draft is 7:30 till 12. I cant stay up that late I am old.

then dvr it



the important picks all happen early anyway before you go to bed

[hammersavage]

not sure if anyone posted this

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4287197

it is official. I say good riddance.

goodbye you fucking crybaby, chocking bum. most overrated player ever

[PhishHead]

faggot

maybe, who knows?

[cougarjake13]

not sure if anyone posted this

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4287197

it is official. I say good riddance.




yeh saw it on the local news down here

[hammersavage]

maybe, who knows?

oh, let 'em talk!

[PhishHead]

goodbye you fucking crybaby, chocking bum. most overrated player ever

i am upset we gave up ryan anderson though, i actually like him and saw potential.

[hammersavage]

i am upset we gave up ryan anderson though, i actually like him and saw potential.

I was gonna say that just now too. He kinda works on that team as a perimeter scorer which they flourish with. But i'll take it to free up that money. Summer of 2010 can't get here soon enough.

[barjockey]

Knicks gonna get the spainish kid?

[Snoogans]

Knicks gonna get the spainish kid?

PLEASE GOD NO

[hammersavage]

Knicks gonna get the spainish kid?

not a chance in the world unless they trade up

[PhishHead]

ooh clippers and twolves draft headquarters!! can it get anymore exciting?

[Snoogans]

ooh clippers and twolves draft headquarters!! can it get anymore exciting?

MEMPHIS

[PhishHead]

MEMPHIS

HAHAHA. I hope they draft thabeet and suck once again.

I hate this fucked up eye prick

[Snoogans]

HAHAHA. I hope they draft thabeet and suck once again.

I hate this fucked up eye prick

what did I do to you, buddy?

[cougarjake13]

Knicks gonna get the spainish kid?

hope not

[PhishHead]

blake is going to be a bust. mark it down.

[cougarjake13]

blake is going to be a bust. mark it down.

i dont know that team


i thought the clippers were gonna draft him ??

[PhishHead]

i dont know that team


i thought the clippers were gonna draft him ??

might as well be called the LA busts

[HBox]

Every time I watch the NBA draft on ESPN I just get pissed that I'm not watching it on TNT. Not only does this pale compared to TNT's draft coverage, it pales to ESPN's NFL draft coverage. On day 2.

[PhishHead]

Every time I watch the NBA draft on ESPN I just get pissed that I'm not watching it on TNT. Not only does this pale compared to TNT's draft coverage, it pales to ESPN's NFL draft coverage. On day 2.

you know i was just thinking that when I tuned in that I miss the NBA draft on TNT.

TNT was great at that.

learn to talk ricky.

[HBox]

This Spanish chick is hot.

[cougarjake13]

This Spanish chick is hot.

i missed it who is she ??

[Snoogans]

i missed it who is she ??

Ricky Rubio

[TheGameHHH]

If everyone in the world is 100% certain the Clips are taking Blake, why do they waste so much time on the clock?

[PhishHead]

well that was a shocker

[Snoogans]

I put myself in teh draft. I hope I get selected. I dont wanna wait til round 2 either

[TheGameHHH]

I put myself in teh draft. I hope I get selected. I dont wanna wait til round 2 either

can you still do that? i thought Stern got crazy pissed a few years back when some dude tried to create false hype and put himself in the draft

[HBox]

That chick was the dumbest interviewer I have ever seen.

[PhishHead]

I put myself in teh draft. I hope I get selected. I dont wanna wait til round 2 either

can you still do that? i thought Stern got crazy pissed a few years back when some dude tried to create false hype and put himself in the draft

my friend Ryan applied for the 2002 draft...Ryan garchie in this article. You can still do it but you have to give up your eligibility.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=50691

[cougarjake13]

If everyone in the world is 100% certain the Clips are taking Blake, why do they waste so much time on the clock?

formality i suppose

[Snoogans]

oh god, no. The spanish is falling

[PhishHead]

Harden looks pimp with the bowtie.

He is going to be good destroyed the pac-10 this year.

[PhishHead]

good let rubio slip down down down.

[Snoogans]

FUCK FUCK fuck FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

[hammersavage]

Great spot for him. He will be a stud

[HBox]

The crowd footage following "The Knicks select Ricky Rubio" would put any footage of Jets draft picks to shame.

[hammersavage]

The crowd footage following "The Knicks select Ricky Rubio" would put any footage of Jets draft picks to shame.

With joy. Say what you want, he is a steal at 8 for what people think he can be. But he'll go with this pick anyway

[Snoogans]

Thank You Jesus

[PhishHead]

well KHB's jinx doesn't live for the knicks for tonight.

[hammersavage]

Spain to Minnesota. Enjoy Ricky!

[HBox]

With joy. Say what you want, he is a steal at 8 for what people think he can be. But he'll go with this pick anyway

He's gonna light the WNBA on fire.

[hammersavage]

What a bunch of bums Rubio played againt. That TEAM USA squad is overrated

[cougarjake13]

do the t wolves have the money to sign 4 1st rounders ???

[hammersavage]

Baskeeetball been very very good to me

[PhishHead]

if one more analyst compares rubio to pistol pete they should be fire. It is the worse comparison ever.

[hammersavage]

Knicks getting Curry

Snoogans inconsolable

[Snoogans]

WHAT THE FUCK

WHY DO YOU NEED BOTH

I HATE LIFE

we are stuck with FUCKIN CURRY

[PhishHead]

that is a horrible pick.

Why 2 PGS back to back? unless it is a trade

[hammersavage]

I say he's traded before midnight

[PhishHead]

I say he's traded before midnight

to the knicks for the 8th pick so wolves can save some money.

[hammersavage]

Knicks won't trade if Curry's there

[hammersavage]

Man, I like jonny flynn


Looks like they're keeping I'm but I don't buy it

[Snoogans]

Wooooooooooo

[PhishHead]

solves snoogans problem and the knicks as well.

[hammersavage]

Oof. Enjoy Jrue Holiday

[hammersavage]

solves snoogans problem and the knicks as well.

Now it makes sense

[PhishHead]

knicks are taking hill or derozen in my opinion

[hammersavage]

Take Dell. I bet he can still stroke it from 3

[cougarjake13]

Knicks getting Curry

Snoogans inconsolable

WHAT THE FUCK

WHY DO YOU NEED BOTH

I HATE LIFE

we are stuck with FUCKIN CURRY


crisis averted

[hammersavage]

I think Stu Scotts eye is mouring the loss of Michael Jackson. Fuckin' move!

[Snoogans]

booooooo

[PhishHead]

good pick. Hill is going to be good. These fans are idiots because they never see Pac-10 games. Stupid knick fans.

[HBox]

He speaks REALLY well.

[hammersavage]

Earl Clark will be a reach for the Nets but I have a man crush on him

[hammersavage]

I hope epo's sad


Shouldn't be

[epo]

Luke Ridnour traded by the end of the night.....

[Snoogans]

Luke Ridnour traded by the end of the night.....

shut up bitch. Dont hurt me like that right now. Britt and now Flynn


:flush:

[hammersavage]

Or him. Ill take his versatility.

[Snoogans]

whoa

[epo]

Could the Pacers be anymore cliche?

[Snoogans]

poor man's troy murphy?

[hammersavage]

Wow, shockingly high. Good for him, he's a hard worker (white)

[Snoogans]

Wow, shockingly high. Good for him, he's a hard worker (white)

he is very long and has tremendous upside

[epo]

He'll give you 110%

[hammersavage]

I love you Earl Clark

[underdog]

Close Your Mouth.

[PhishHead]

twolves are stupid

[PhishHead]

i think they have turned into the detroit lions.

[epo]

Rubio, Flynn and Lawson?

Gee...ya think they have MULTIPLE deals lined up?

[hammersavage]

Flynn could still be a Knick. He has to move. Two pg's under 6'1 and Rubio can't work

[hammersavage]

Portland loves the Spaniards

[epo]

Flynn could still be a Knick. He has to move. Two pg's under 6'1 and Rubio can't work

The rumors are Lawson to Denver and Rubio to NYK

[hammersavage]

Knicks could get Toney Douglas at 29. I like him there

[hammersavage]

The rumors are Lawson to Denver and Rubio to NYK

I just flipped to Jackson videos on MTV for a minute. Is that serious? I know the first part is.

[epo]

I just flipped to Jackson videos on MTV for a minute. Is that serious? I know the first part is.

That's what I hear....

[Tallman388]

Another guard? Just start announcing the trades and get it over with.

[underdog]

Did Haynesborough really get drafted before Lawson?

[hammersavage]

Now that pick makes sense. And Lawson got moved to Denver for a protected #1. Really nice draft for Minny

[hammersavage]

Finally, Darko era in NY

[hammersavage]

Great fit for the Knicks

[hammersavage]

Cavs need a jump shooting forward with length here

[hammersavage]

Well he looks like he fits, athletically and length wise. But no idea what kinda player he is. Don't see too many Congo games

[epo]

Dejaun Blair please.

[hammersavage]

How can a knee not have an acl? When I tore mine, I needed a replacement, not a removal.

[Evolved]

How can a knee not have an acl? When I tore mine, I needed a replacement, not a removal.

Hines Ward is missing one as well.

[underdog]

ESPN is seriously talking to Chris Wallace about his good GMing. Seriously.

[hammersavage]

ESPN is seriously talking to Chris Wallace about his good GMing. Seriously.

That was laughable.


Got a pure jump shooter there epo. Has to work on creating his own shot but he can be valuable

[underdog]

That was laughable.

It's like when ESPN asks Steve Phillips what he would do if he were GM.

[hammersavage]

If I were there, I would start a 'different' chant for Budinger

[epo]

Got a pure jump shooter there epo. Has to work on creating his own shot but he can be valuable

Jennings and Meeks...not a bad night for a terrible draft.

[hammersavage]

Jennings and Meeks...not a bad night for a terrible draft.

It really isn't. Jennings has huge upside, I'm telling you he was the 2nd best player on the court in a game with Beasley, Kevin Love, Singler, Evans, etc. I think the year in Italy and him not coming home even though he really wanted to kinda speaks to his character. Seems like a tough kid. And Meeks can shoot, should have went back to school but it is what it is.



So I ask this. Who will be the 5 best players when you look back on the draft 10 years from now, now that you see what cities and systems they will be in?

Can't wait for Simmons' running diary tomorrow, that's always his best article.

[Snoogans]

It really isn't. Jennings has huge upside, I'm telling you he was the 2nd best player on the court in a game with Beasley, Kevin Love, Singler, Evans, etc. I think the year in Italy and him not coming home even though he really wanted to kinda speaks to his character. Seems like a tough kid. And Meeks can shoot, should have went back to school but it is what it is.



So I ask this. Who will be the 5 best players when you look back on the draft 10 years from now, now that you see what cities and systems they will be in?

Can't wait for Simmons' running diary tomorrow, that's always his best article.

Not Ricky Rubio

[Snoogans]

the further removed i get, the more i like what the knicks did. Most importantly, they brought in some Defense

[Pestz4Evah]

I was real upset the Kings passed on Rubio when he fell in their laps, but I guess I can live with Evans.

[Pestz4Evah]

this is hilarious:

Report: Ricky Rubio's father says son may remain in Spain (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Report-Ricky-Rubio-s-father-says-son-may-remain?urn=nba,172985)

[PhishHead]

Detroit makes the steal in the draft of Chase Budinger in the 2nd round and then promptly trade him to Houston. Great move Houston he will contribute right away.

[Crispy123]

Nets trade Vince Carter to Magic (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090626/ap_on_sp_bk_ne/bkn_nets_magic_trade)

Sweet! Now we need Turq to stay and we will be back in the finals baby!

[PhishHead]

Nets trade Vince Carter to Magic (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090626/ap_on_sp_bk_ne/bkn_nets_magic_trade)

Sweet! Now we need Turq to stay and we will be back in the finals baby!

Turq announced he is opting out today. So yea you are losing him.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I like the Jordan Hill selection, The Knicks havent had a 6 ft 10 forward who has hops and can dunk it down in recent time.

Hill can also have a shot block presence and play D



was pissed when the Warriors drafted Curry, he will be stuck in that mediocre west coast rut. 140-135 scoring games and obscurity await him

[PhishHead]

I like the Jordan Hill selection, The Knicks havent had a 6 ft 10 forward who has hops and can dunk it down in recent time.

Hill can also have a shot block presence and play D



was pissed when the Warriors drafted Curry, he will be stuck in that mediocre west coast rut. 140-135 scoring games and obscurity await him

Curry is being traded to Phoenix along with a few others for Amar'e

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Curry is being traded to Phoenix along with a few others for Amar'e


oh snap, so now he is on the Arizona State Warriors , but has Nash who can help him get shots with his point guardery

[PhishHead]

oh snap, so now he is on the Arizona State Warriors , but has Nash who can help him get shots with his point guardery

I dont think 2009 is the year of the hippo anymore.

[Evolved]

this is hilarious:

Report: Ricky Rubio's father says son may remain in Spain (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Report-Ricky-Rubio-s-father-says-son-may-remain?urn=nba,172985)
On top of that he has to pay $6.6 million to but out his contract but if he plays one more year his Spanish team will greatly reduce that number.

[Snoogans]

I like the Jordan Hill selection, The Knicks havent had a 6 ft 10 forward who has hops and can dunk it down in recent time.

Hill can also have a shot block presence and play D



was pissed when the Warriors drafted Curry, he will be stuck in that mediocre west coast rut. 140-135 scoring games and obscurity await him

Im more excited about having a shooter who plays really good perimeter D

[hammersavage]

Im more excited about having a shooter who plays really good perimeter D

D'antoni will have none of that D nonsense

[Snoogans]

D'antoni will have none of that D nonsense

Thats why we needed to get one who already knows how to play it

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Im more excited about having a shooter who plays really good perimeter D



agreed, he was all defense and can score


I dont want to hammersavage/knick these draft picks, but not too shabby


especially because that chick Rubio may either play in Spain or the WNBA

[hammersavage]

I dont want to hammersavage/knick these draft picks, but not too shabby


you are the jinx here, dummy

[epo]

you are the jinx here, dummy

The Hippo jinx will hammersavage any player up.

[hammersavage]

The Hippo jinx will hammersavage any player up.

boom! thats how its done

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I have had a sweet year, not sure about the Jinx


site 3 examples and not lox's of the day which were guesses

[PhishHead]

I have had a sweet year, not sure about the Jinx


site 3 examples and not lox's of the day which were guesses

I had 3 really good ones but didnt want to make you cry.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I had 3 really good ones but didnt want to make you cry.


Phishy atleast CARES!!!!!


you schlubs can learn a thing from him



I think of you when I take Rt. 17 to work

[PhishHead]

Phishy atleast CARES!!!!!


you schlubs can learn a thing from him



I think of you when I take Rt. 17 to work

You take Rt. 17 in Mahwah or just rt. 17 in general?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

You take Rt. 17 in Mahwah or just rt. 17 in general?


past Mahwah on route to Tappan Zee, when GWB is jammed

[PhishHead]

past Mahwah on route to Tappan Zee, when GWB is jammed

aww you can wave to me when you past the Kohl's shopping center in ramsey I live behind there kind of.

[Snoogans]

past Mahwah on route to Tappan Zee, when GWB is jammed

You prick. You pass my fuckin exit and STILL I dont get a call back

[King Hippos Bandaid]

You prick. You pass my fuckin exit and STILL I dont get a call back


I have offered a dinner olive branch in a few of your food threads

I can meet up at 7 or 8 when I hit CT for work

[Snoogans]

I have offered a dinner olive branch in a few of your food threads

I can meet up at 7 or 8 when I hit CT for work

Ill give you a call. Im tryin not to kill your wallet too much cause what you will owe in golf

[Snoogans]

though you are gonna catch up some cause i forgot to set my lineup again

FUCKIN KEVIN FORGOT TO REMIND ME

[PhishHead]

I have offered a dinner olive branch in a few of your food threads

I can meet up at 7 or 8 when I hit CT for work

What I don't get an offer??? I am much better company than Snoogans, he just screams and attracts white guys cause of his asianess.

[Snoogans]

What I don't get an offer??? I am much better company than Snoogans, he just screams and attracts white guys cause of his asianess.

Fuck you bitch. He didnt forget to call you back when you were tryin to plan a vacation.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

we can have a real threesome unlike that phoney Doug Grasso





P.S Doug will never read this since he has no clue about sports

[Snoogans]

we can have a real threesome unlike that phoney Doug Grasso





P.S Doug will never read this since he has no clue about sports

As long as big Hippos is breakin out the wallet, Im fine.

How bout River Palm Terrace?

[hammersavage]

The Spurs have a legit big 4: Duncan, Parker, Jefferson and a healthy Ginobli. And if Blair is healthy, which he has been thru college without ACL's, he will be a steal for where they got him and what he can bring. They are the co-favorites in the West in LA loses Ariza and/or Odom.

[Snoogans]

The Spurs have a legit big 4: Duncan, Parker, Jefferson and a healthy Ginobli. And if Blair is healthy, which he has been thru college without ACL's, he will be a steal for where they got him and what he can bring. They are the co-favorites in the West in LA loses Ariza and/or Odom.

You cant let Odom go. he has amazing calves

[PhishHead]

The Spurs have a legit big 4: Duncan, Parker, Jefferson and a healthy Ginobli. And if Blair is healthy, which he has been thru college without ACL's, he will be a steal for where they got him and what he can bring. They are the co-favorites in the West in LA loses Ariza and/or Odom.

who is going to guard Kobe?

I love jefferson but he is not a great defender. Crap most of the time the Nets put carter or kidd on bron or bryant.

Plus Duncan is old now, won't average a double double. Parker still sucks and Manu will be injured. They really won't be amazing or a threat for a title. They will win 60 games and loss steam in the playoffs.

[hammersavage]

who is going to guard Kobe?

I love jefferson but he is not a great defender. Crap most of the time the Nets put carter or kidd on bron or bryant.

Plus Duncan is old now, won't average a double double. Parker still sucks and Manu will be injured. They really won't be amazing or a threat for a title. They will win 60 games and loss steam in the playoffs.

They'll win 60 but won't be a title threat with Tim Duncan on their team? Ok...

They will also find someone off the scrap heap who could attempt to guard Kobe. They did it with Roger Mason last year. It's not like Bowen was that guy in recent years, he got old too. They made the playoffs with just Parker and Duncan and if the Lakers regress when the lose Ariza or Odom, it gets much tighter.

[PhishHead]

They'll win 60 but won't be a title threat with Tim Duncan on their team? Ok...

They will also find someone off the scrap heap who could attempt to guard Kobe. They did it with Roger Mason last year. It's not like Bowen was that guy in recent years, he got old too. They made the playoffs with just Parker and Duncan and if the Lakers regress when the lose Ariza or Odom, it gets much tighter.

Tim duncan is not what he use to be. Yes still amazing but cannot dominate or elevate like he use to the 1,000+ games he has on his knees have taken their toll.

[hammersavage]

Tim duncan is not what he use to be. Yes still amazing but cannot dominate or elevate like he use to the 1,200+ games he has on his knees have taken their toll.

Oh no doubt, but I'm saying for this season, he'll have just enough left in the tank to be a serious threat to win it all. They are slightly better and if the Lakers get slightly worse. I think its dead even if they lose Odom, Lakers still slightly better if they lose Ariza.

[PhishHead]

Oh no doubt, but I'm saying for this season, he'll have just enough left in the tank to be a serious threat to win it all. They are slightly better and if the Lakers get slightly worse. I think its dead even if they lose Odom, Lakers still slightly better if they lose Ariza.

It will all depend on how much they ride him in the regular season. Especially with Manu being mr. injury. If duncan plays 75-82 games he will be done for the playoffs and they will lose 1st round.

Jefferson adds the nice swing player they need and can run with Parker when no one else on the team can. I just don't see them contending once the playoffs happen.

There are other teams in the West I would be more scared of then the Lakers.

Nuggets could be a terror again and who knows what will happen with GS and Phoenix depending on trades.

Clippers could win it all!!

[Snoogans]

It will all depend on how much they ride him in the regular season. Especially with Manu being mr. injury. If duncan plays 75-82 games he will be done for the playoffs and they will lose 1st round.

Jefferson adds the nice swing player they need and can run with Parker when no one else on the team can. I just don't see them contending once the playoffs happen.

There are other teams in the West I would be more scared of then the Lakers.

Nuggets could be a terror again and who knows what will happen with GS and Phoenix depending on trades.

Clippers could win it all!!
I dont think ive ever had less respect for your opinion

[PhishHead]

I dont think ive ever had less respect for your opinion

I don't think you ever caught less of my sarcasm.

[hammersavage]

It will all depend on how much they ride him in the regular season. Especially with Manu being mr. injury. If duncan plays 75-82 games he will be done for the playoffs and they will lose 1st round.

Jefferson adds the nice swing player they need and can run with Parker when no one else on the team can. I just don't see them contending once the playoffs happen.

They could sleepwalk their way to the playoffs. But if they are healthy going into the playoffs, its them and the Lakers.

Alright, that's all for next years playoffs. Its way to early to talk about that with the roster moves coming up.

Amare for Biedrins and Curry is interesting.

[Snoogans]

I don't think you ever caught less of my sarcasm.

there are things that can be jokes. and then there are things that are just wrong

[hammersavage]

I don't think you ever caught less of my sarcasm.

What's your top 5 from the draft Phish?

[PhishHead]

What's your top 5 from the draft Phish?

top 5 team drafts
or top 5 players drafted?

[hammersavage]

Whoa gentleman. Just found this (http://www.hulu.com/watch/79440/gunnin-for-that-1-spot) on Hulu. It's Gunnin' For that #1 Spot.

It follows 8 of the top high school basketball players at the time of filming, in '06. It follows the first annual Elite 24 Hoops Classic game at Rucker Park in Harlem.

We're talking Beasley, Tyreke Evans, Brandon Jennings, Bayless, Donte Green, Singler, Kevin Love.

It's fantastic. Must watch

[hammersavage]

top 5 team drafts
or top 5 players drafted?

Assuming current situations, what players will be the 5 best when you look back 10 years from now?


My list in no particular order:
Blake Griffin
Stephen Curry
Tyreke Evans
Earl Clark
and hopefully Terrence Williams

If Rubio goes back to Spain for a couple years like I've heard today, I don't know what to make of him yet.

[PhishHead]

Assuming current situations, what players will be the 5 best when you look back 10 years from now?


My list in no particular order:
Blake Griffin
Stephen Curry
Tyreke Evans
Earl Clark
and hopefully Terrence Williams

If Rubio goes back to Spain for a couple years like I've heard today, I don't know what to make of him yet.

That is a tough question but in no way does Blake Griffin top my list at all.

I am probably going to be very wrong and this is in no order at all:
Stephen Curry (there will always be a need for people who can shoot)
Brandon Jennings (probably more potential than anyone in the draft)
James Harden (will be a hardnose guy that eventually averages a double double 17 and 10)
Jordan Hill (will be a lot better than people expect)
I don't know about the 5th, this is one of the worse drafts besides 2000.

It could be Sam Young, Maynor, Rubio, Evans. All of them will be solid contributors in my opinion.

[Snoogans]

That is a tough question but in no way does Blake Griffin top my list at all.

I am probably going to be very wrong and this is in no order at all:
Stephen Curry (there will always be a need for people who can shoot)
Brandon Jennings (probably more potential than anyone in the draft)
James Harden (will be a hardnose guy that eventually averages a double double 17 and 10)
Jordan Hill (will be a lot better than people expect)
I don't know about the 5th, this is one of the worse drafts besides 2000.

It could be Sam Young, Maynor, Rubio, Evans. All of them will be solid contributors in my opinion.

Toney Douglass


Please

[hammersavage]

Toney Douglass


Please

I love him there. He can shoot and defend a little. Great athlete that should do well with D'antoni. Knicks might not have gotten the name they wanted, but they got decent talent. They have a year to show competence to make LeBron want to come and play with them.

[IrishAlkey]

The Knicks got Darko!












































































































































??? :down:

[PhishHead]

wow how did my name get added as a tag to this thread

Phishy does indeed equal class.

[Snoogans]

The Knicks got Darko!





??? :down:


Darko is up after this season. QRich had another year at like 8 mill, so it cleared 8 more for next offseason

[PhishHead]

Darko is up after this season. QRich had another year at like 8 mill, so it cleared 8 more for next offseason

plus darko can play defense unlike Qrich