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thepaulo
10-20-2007, 10:25 PM
Ryan Gosling clearly has the talent and desire to be the very best young actor of his generation. So it doesn't seem a stretch that he might be getting Oscar nominations for years to come. He got his first last year, in a small independent film (Half Nelson) that by all logic should have been ignored.
So Lars and the Real Girl has that going for it. Gosling will probably get another nomination for another hard to market film. It really is amazing that the film was even made. It had two major strikes against it. The first was that it's premise was ridiculous on the surface (that the titular "real girl" is a sex doll). But when you see the film, all those simple assumptions fade away instantly. Right from the start, the delicate nature of the problems that the characters in the film face are handled with gentle care and sensitivity. The second strike against it is that director Craig Gillespie has an image problem. Significant portions of his first film, Mr. Woodcock were refilmed by another director. Maybe we need to see Mr. Gillsepie's cut of Mr. Woodcock because the version we got kind of sucked.
Lars and the Real Girl is funny as hell. The humor comes naturally out of our empathy for a character we quickly come to care about. Lars faces a problem that seems overwhelming. The real girl is a sex doll. Lars calls her Bianca. But Lars doesn't have sex with her because Bianca triggers a delusion deep in Lars' psyche. Lars deep shyness and withdrawal is slowly reversed by his love and respect for Bianca. So what you would expect to be a creepy and sleasy film is actually one of almost wholesome compassion.
I have no special insight or training to evaluate the psychology of the film, but it seems irrelevent. The film's focus is so benign and satisfying,that it is almost a fable or bedtime story. And since Lars' battle is so hard fought, audience's seem to accept it's almost pollyanaish and inspirational arc. It may be hard to beleive so many people come to care about Lars. It could be that he seems so obviously pathetic that we can put aside being judgemental....and it's easy to laugh at him. The acting by everyone including Emily Mortimer and Patricia Clarkson is great but without Ryan Gosling this delicate enterprize might fall apart. He makes us care about someone who seems hopelessly beyond reach. 89 out of 100

torker
10-20-2007, 10:32 PM
Ryan Gosling clearly has the talent and desire to be the very best young actor of his generation. So it doesn't seem a stretch that he might be getting Oscar nominations for years to come. He got his first last year, in a small independent film (Half Nelson) that by all logic should have been ignored.
So Lars and the Real Girl has that going for it. Gosling will probably get another nomination for another hard to market film. It really is amazing that the film was even made. It had two major strikes against it. The first was that it's premise was ridiculous on the surface (that the titular "real girl" is a sex doll). But when you see the film, all those simple assumptions fade away instantly. Right from the start, the delicate nature of the problems that the characters in the film face are handled with gentle care and sensitivity. The second strike against it is that director Craig Gillespie has an image problem. Significant portions of his first film, Mr. Woodcock were refilmed by another director. Maybe we need to see Mr. Gillsepie's cut of Mr. Woodcock because the version we got kind of sucked.
Lars and the Real Girl is funny as hell. The humor comes naturally out of our empathy for a character we quickly come to care about. Lars faces a problem that seems overwhelming. The real girl is a sex doll. Lars calls her Bianca. But Lars doesn't have sex with her because Bianca triggers a delusion deep in Lars' psyche. Lars deep shyness and withdrawal is slowly reversed by his love and respect for Bianca. So what you would expect to be a creepy and sleasy film is actually one of almost wholesome compassion.
I have no special insight or training to evaluate the psychology of the film, but it seems irrelevent. The film's focus is so benign and satisfying,that it is almost a fable or bedtime story. And since Lars' battle is so hard fought, audience's seem to accept it's almost pollyanaish and inspirational arc. It may be hard to beleive so many people come to care about Lars. It could be that he seems so obviously pathetic that we can put aside being judgemental....and it's easy to laugh at him. The acting by everyone including Emily Mortimer and Patricia Clarkson is great but without Ryan Gosling this delicate enterprize might fall apart. He makes us care about someone who seems hopelessly beyond reach. 89 out of 100

now it's easier to read:blink:

thepaulo
10-20-2007, 11:31 PM
:wallbash::flush::help:

Beelzebub
10-24-2007, 08:41 AM
'Lars sends an odd message about male/female relationships. If Lars' passion for a piece of store-bought plastic is what teaches him to love a real person, how will he transfer those lessons to the realm of human intimacy? What will his time with Bianca have taught him about reciprocity, spontaneity, listening to other points of view? Won't the post-Bianca Lars be like a monkey raised in a lab environment, utterly unable to cope with the demands of a flesh-and-blood partner? Lars and the Real Girl suffers from an even stranger delusion than Lars does. The movie is convinced that its man-loves-mannequin premise is uplifting, when actually it's just kinda gross.' (http://bloggingheads.tv/video.php?id=432)

Speaking of Dana Stevens... I think the movie buffs will enjoy.

Dougie Brootal
10-24-2007, 08:43 AM
im gonna buy a real doll.

Beelzebub
10-24-2007, 08:50 AM
im gonna buy a real doll.

According to the movie that says a lot.

Were you touched as child, or not enough.

*Psychological breakthrough!*

The character Lars said that he could not bear to be touched, I did not need to know all of the details about his past; it was enough that I could understand how he could create a girlfriend who could not touch him or be touched. The doll seemed to me very much like the "transition objects" that small children cling to in order to help them move to the next stage, thumbsucking, pacifer, training wheels, blanky... in a way. So in a way I'm asking do you have anything you want to tell us about your childhood?

Dougie Brootal
10-24-2007, 09:01 AM
According to the movie that says a lot.

Were you touched as child, or not enough.

*Psychological breakthrough!*

The character Lars said that he could not bear to be touched, I did not need to know all of the details about his past; it was enough that I could understand how he could create a girlfriend who could not touch him or be touched. The doll seemed to me very much like the "transition objects" that small children cling to in order to help them move to the next stage, thumbsucking, pacifer, training wheels, blanky... in a way. So in a way I'm asking do you have anything you want to tell us about your childhood?

no. i just want one to see what its like. it would be nice to have a girlfriend you can just put in the closet when your done with her. :tongue: i havent seen the movie yet either.

Beelzebub
10-24-2007, 09:09 AM
But of course, better than wanting to fuck a toaster. Will rue the day the robots/cyborgs/cylons start to look like:

http://blogs.chron.com/tubular/archives/3%20queens%20small.JPG (http://www.stanford.edu/dept/HPS/Haraway/CyborgManifesto.html)

Dougie Brootal
10-24-2007, 09:25 AM
But of course, better than wanting to fuck a toaster. Will rue the day the robots/cyborgs/cylons start to look like:

http://blogs.chron.com/tubular/archives/3%20queens%20small.JPG (http://www.stanford.edu/dept/HPS/Haraway/CyborgManifesto.html)

id fuck them too! cept maybe the one on the left, id need a little help ya know.

thepaulo
10-24-2007, 07:15 PM
Lars's problem is not remotely sexual.....
but i did see a BBC documentary about guys who favor dolls......
one guy put a bunch of his dolls out for his girlfriend, all dolled up....and she was like...."I'm glad he's honest with me" "he has sex with women too" Then the postscript was she left him a week later......there is a very tiny minority who prefer the dependablity of the emotional connection they have with their dolls/doll.....