2009 Season - Defending WS Champion Philadelphia Phillies Thread

[BoondockSaint]

I hope you didn't look at the Eagles injury report this week...you'll just get more upset.

Oops, confused you with Boss.

My bad...it's been a long day...


I'm a Steelers fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PhilDeez]

If I had hair I'd be pulling it out.

I attempted to pull every last strand of mine tonight. WTF, a GD pitcher who has only 4 hits all year ends up with 2 accounting for the difference with his 3 RBI??? I just can't get over that. And then in the 7th, that speedy little Hawaiian saved at least a base clearing double. Oh the agony.
My hopes are the series continues just like the regular season and the Dodgers sweep three games in LA, bring some momentum back to Philly and close it out in 6. Then again I am realistic and fully suspect this to end in LA.
I do admit, it wasn't all that bad to see the Phillys come out and play like that today after Manuals mother passed away. At the moment I hate this team, but will be rooting for them if they get to the Series.

[TripleSkeet]

I just sobered up from Thursday nights game. Wow.

[cougarjake13]

HOW BOUT DEM DODGERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BUT SERIOUSLY ITS ONLY THE 1ST INNING

[scottinnj]

Top of the 7th. If the Phils wind up losing tonight, it won't be unexpected.

I just hope the series doesn't go all seven games.

[K.C.]

Top of the 7th. If the Phils wind up losing tonight, it won't be unexpected.

I just hope the series doesn't go all seven games.

I had this one pegged as the toughest game going into the series.

Kuroda pretty much did to them what he did to them earlier this year. They just can't stay off his breaking stuff.

The big decider in whether this will probably go seven will be tomorrow's game. Blanton was solid against Milwaukee. Who knows what to expect from Lowe on short rest. It's likely to be a bullpen battle.

If the Phils win tomorrow, they'll win in five or six.

If the Dodgers win tomorrow, this will go seven, at which point, you're looking at Moyer vs. Kuroda again, which while it would be in Philadelphia, it'd still have to favor the Dodgers.

[KingGeno]

Makes sense Manny is in L.A. His tough guy acting job went off well, while being held back by six guys. Fuckin' pussy. He'd fit in perfect on some phony angry guy roll.

Kinda figured that Jamie would get rocked last night. He pitches way too slow against their quick choppy bats. Kinda worried about Blanton tonight, but we shall see.

JRoll has to start hitting, and the rest of the team have to capitalize on RISP.

[Furtherman]

The blond chick who was sitting behind home plate last night was driving me nuts as she fixed her hair constantly.

[KingGeno]

The blond chick who was sitting behind home plate last night was driving me nuts as she fixed her hair constantly.

The one sitting next to the brunette wearing a scarf in 70 degree weather?

Mary Hart's little blonde pubic hair child wearing Blues Brother's sunglasses the whole game drove me nuts.

[Furtherman]

The one sitting next to the brunette wearing a scarf in 70 degree weather?

Mary Hart's little blonde pubic hair child wearing Blues Brother's sunglasses the whole game drove me nuts.

Yea, none of those girls seemed a bit interested in the game. And when I say girls, I'm including Ryan Seacrest.

[KingGeno]

Yea, none of those girls seemed a bit interested in the game. And when I say girls, I'm including Ryan Seacrest.

Love how half of those phony phony friggin' "fans" left the game before it was even over. The pan over the stadium happened once, and half the seats were empty. That would NEVER happen in Philly for a playoff game.

[skyscraper]

No one should panic about this loss. No one predicted that either team would sweep (except Manny.)
I said earlier that I was worried that Moyer would still struggle after his Milwaukee loss. This one was way worse. So the question is, does he get the ball again this post-season? Right now, I say no. I say, thank you Jamie for a terrific season, but 2 bad starts in the playoffs does not get you a third chance. Keep him around for long relief if need be, but otherwise, keep him off the mound.

[K.C.]

No one should panic about this loss. No one predicted that either team would sweep (except Manny.)
I said earlier that I was worried that Moyer would still struggle after his Milwaukee loss. This one was way worse. So the question is, does he get the ball again this post-season? Right now, I say no. I say, thank you Jamie for a terrific season, but 2 bad starts in the playoffs does not get you a third chance. Keep him around for long relief if need be, but otherwise, keep him off the mound.

There is absolutely no chance of them going to Happ in the rotation, nor should there be. You can't throw him into a potential Game 7 against the Dodgers, or an early game of the World Series when he's started a handful of games all season.

That would be one of the all-time panic moves, especially if Happ got lit up.

They're hitched to Moyer for better or worse. The Milwaukee game wasn't horrible. He got squeezed, and in the end he only gave up two runs.

This Dodger game was very bad. The Dodgers are a bad match-up for him all around. That said, you go to him if you have to go to him. There's no one else.

The only way I'd take Moyer out is if they start throwing Hamels and Myers on three days rest, and Charlie won't do that, nor should he....Hamels wouldn't be nearly as effective as he's been on short rest.

[Bossanova]

There is absolutely no chance of them going to Happ in the rotation, nor should there be. You can't throw him into a potential Game 7 against the Dodgers, or an early game of the World Series when he's started a handful of games all season.

That would be one of the all-time panic moves, especially if Happ got lit up.

They're hitched to Moyer for better or worse. The Milwaukee game wasn't horrible. He got squeezed, and in the end he only gave up two runs.

This Dodger game was very bad. The Dodgers are a bad match-up for him all around. That said, you go to him if you have to go to him. There's no one else.

The only way I'd take Moyer out is if they start throwing Hamels and Myers on three days rest, and Charlie won't do that, nor should he....Hamels wouldn't be nearly as effective as he's been on short rest.


With all that being said, I think its time to talk trades for next year. The Phils need a starter and the Mets happen to be sitting a a diamond in the ruff starter. I say Heilman for Rollins straight up

[Earlshog]

There is absolutely no chance of them going to Happ in the rotation, nor should there be. You can't throw him into a potential Game 7 against the Dodgers, or an early game of the World Series when he's started a handful of games all season.

That would be one of the all-time panic moves, especially if Happ got lit up.

They're hitched to Moyer for better or worse. The Milwaukee game wasn't horrible. He got squeezed, and in the end he only gave up two runs.

This Dodger game was very bad. The Dodgers are a bad match-up for him all around. That said, you go to him if you have to go to him. There's no one else.

The only way I'd take Moyer out is if they start throwing Hamels and Myers on three days rest, and Charlie won't do that, nor should he....Hamels wouldn't be nearly as effective as he's been on short rest.

If a game 7 situation presented itself don't you think they would go with Blanton i/o Moyer?

[skyscraper]

There is absolutely no chance of them going to Happ in the rotation, nor should there be. You can't throw him into a potential Game 7 against the Dodgers, or an early game of the World Series when he's started a handful of games all season.

That would be one of the all-time panic moves, especially if Happ got lit up.

They're hitched to Moyer for better or worse. The Milwaukee game wasn't horrible. He got squeezed, and in the end he only gave up two runs.

This Dodger game was very bad. The Dodgers are a bad match-up for him all around. That said, you go to him if you have to go to him. There's no one else.

The only way I'd take Moyer out is if they start throwing Hamels and Myers on three days rest, and Charlie won't do that, nor should he....Hamels wouldn't be nearly as effective as he's been on short rest.


Hamels and Myers can pitch on short rest, Myers especially. I'd put them out there on 3 days rest but put them on a short leash, no more than 5 innings. our bullpen can support that to finish out this series. then they'd get a day or 2 before the ws to recover. what effect that might have on the ws will depend on whom we'd face if we got there. Moyer probably matches up better against Tampa than Boston. Tampa has a lot of eager young guys who swing a lot, but Boston would be more patient against him.

[KingGeno]

Hamels can pitch on short rest

Per Charlie and Hamels all year, he cannot pitch on a short rest.

[K.C.]

If a game 7 situation presented itself don't you think they would go with Blanton i/o Moyer?

They actually could go with Blanton, on regular rest since there's two days off between Game 4 and Game 7.

I don't know...that's a tough call. Let's see how Blanton does tonight.

Hamels and Myers can pitch on short rest, Myers especially. I'd put them out there on 3 days rest but put them on a short leash, no more than 5 innings. our bullpen can support that to finish out this series. then they'd get a day or 2 before the ws to recover. what effect that might have on the ws will depend on whom we'd face if we got there. Moyer probably matches up better against Tampa than Boston. Tampa has a lot of eager young guys who swing a lot, but Boston would be more patient against him.

Well, it's a non-factor in the remainder of this series. Hamels and Myers wouldn't even be on three days rest for a Game 7.

At this point, you'd have to reshuffle the rotation for the series, to skip Moyer's turn.

I would consider pitching Myers on three days.

I wouldn't throw Hamels unless it's an elimination game...he was complaining in September of fatigue. He's thrown two gems getting full rest so far this playoffs. I wouldn't screw with it unless you'd absolutely have to.

Maybe for the series, you could go:
-Myers
-Hamels
-Blanton
-Myers (short rest)
-Hamels
-Blanton
-Myers

But I'd actually prefer to give Moyer another shot....especially if it's the Rays.

[cougarjake13]

you know i may watch too much tv, movies , etc.

but when kuroda threw at victorino and vic tipped his cap i kept waiting for kuroda to tip back, as is custom in japanese babseball, or at least mr baseball with tom selleck tells me, and kuroda never did

[cougarjake13]

The blond chick who was sitting behind home plate last night was driving me nuts as she fixed her hair constantly.

The one sitting next to the brunette wearing a scarf in 70 degree weather?

Mary Hart's little blonde pubic hair child wearing Blues Brother's sunglasses the whole game drove me nuts.

Yea, none of those girls seemed a bit interested in the game. And when I say girls, I'm including Ryan Seacrest.


i was fixated on that chick all game

mainly b/c it looked like her seat was in the middle of the stairs

[K.C.]

Come on, Big Joe Blanton!!!

Let's do this.

[K.C.]

Blanton missed his spot on the pitch to Loney by about a foot, but otherwise looked like he had pretty good stuff to start.

I'll take 2-1 after one.

Also, I like the call to intentionally walk Manny in the 1st, despite Joe Buck's annoying protests. Any time there's a base open, put Manny on.

[cougarjake13]

Blanton missed his spot on the pitch to Loney by about a foot, but otherwise looked like he had pretty good stuff to start.

I'll take 2-1 after one.

Also, I like the call to intentionally walk Manny in the 1st, despite Joe Buck's annoying protests. Any time there's a base open, put Manny on.


i hate joe buck

i wish he died and his dad was still around

[PhilDeez]

Blanton missed his spot on the pitch to Loney by about a foot, but otherwise looked like he had pretty good stuff to start.

I'll take 2-1 after one.

Also, I like the call to intentionally walk Manny in the 1st, despite Joe Buck's annoying protests. Any time there's a base open, put Manny on.

Joe Buck is a d bag, especially a few years ago when the Cardinals won - he was creaming his shorts the entire time but still trying to be objective.

I doubt I get any sympathy in this thread, but this home plate ump sucks. The Dodgers have been screwed on 2 crucial strike calls that were no where near the strike zone.

[K.C.]

I doubt I get any sympathy in this thread, but this home plate ump sucks. The Dodgers have been screwed on 2 crucial strike calls that were no where near the strike zone.

As long as it's consistent, it's fair.

I haven't seen Lowe gets squeezed on anything similar to what Blanton is getting, yet.

[PhilDeez]

As long as it's consistent, it's fair.

I haven't seen Lowe gets squeezed on anything similar to what Blanton is getting, yet.

Yeah I agree if he keeps it consistent, fine. I thought last night was a little the other way to be honest - the Phils were getting hosed on a couple of low strikes, tonight it seems the other way.

[K.C.]

Fuck Andre Ethier.

That was a SPECTACULAR play

But FUCK him.

[scottinnj]

As long as it's consistent, it's fair.

I haven't seen Lowe gets squeezed on anything similar to what Blanton is getting, yet.

Me neither.

The ump is calling a super-tight strike zone tonight.

[K.C.]

Fucking Howard...he needed to get that out on the Furcal bunt.

Phils could have seen their way out down 4-3.

This is an infinitely tougher loss than last night if they don't come back. A lot of pressure on Cole on Wednesday.




WHAT A PLAY BY UTLEY!!!!!!

[KingGeno]

Phillies can't hit. Bottom line. Love the choice to put two-hit all year So Taguchi out there. So awesome!

[K.C.]

Phillies can't hit. Bottom line. Love the choice to put two-hit all year So Taguchi out there. So awesome!

Come on, now...Ethier made the play of the series to rob him.

[scottinnj]

what A Play By Utley!!!!!!


Qft!!!

[K.C.]

How many fastballs are they going to take over the plate from Kuo???????

That half inning was pathetic.

[K.C.]

If last inning was any indicator, Howard better be sitting on a first pitch fastball this inning.

[K.C.]

Thank you, Jeebus!

[scottinnj]

SHANE!!!!



http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/baseball/mlb/10/29/bp.nleast/t1_victorino.jpg

He is definitely the MVP if the Phils win the pennant. Absolutely awesome in the playoffs!

[scottinnj]

Holy crap, all these commercials during pitching changes is taking me right out of the game. It's so distracting.

[K.C.]

MATT STAIRS IS GOD!!!!!!!!

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[Jughead]

My son said he look's old..Just like me!!!!:clap::clap::clap::clap:

[KingGeno]

OH MY!
http://www.mccabelumber.com/InteriorStairs/Images/MainPhoto-Stairs.jpg

[Epschtein]

this is a FANTASTIC game!

[scottinnj]

STAIRS!!!!!

I'd post a pic but all I got are when he was with the Jays

[scottinnj]

OH MY!
http://www.mccabelumber.com/InteriorStairs/Images/MainPhoto-Stairs.jpg

QFT!!!!

[KingGeno]

Being sick + losing = sad panda

Being sick + winning = happy koala

Pretty cool seeing them embrace Charlie. That was pretty cool.

Never count this team out!

[scottinnj]

Did he just balk against Werth?

[K.C.]

Did he just balk against Werth?

I thought that looked very close.

[KingGeno]

I thought that looked very close.

Same.

Can't count out L.A. either.

[scottinnj]

Dear God:

Please kiss Romero's arm.

Thank You.

[scottinnj]

Lidge in the eighth? Can he go 1-1/3?

Edit: I would have walked Manny and gone after Martin for the third out.

[KingGeno]

Lidge in the eighth? Can he go 1-1/3?

Bout to find out. This could make or break the game.

[K.C.]

Lidge in the eighth? Can he go 1-1/3?

We'll find out.

Not sure why he couldn't.

[scottinnj]

Nobody on, two out. Walk Manny and go after Martin.


God I'm so tense right now.

[K.C.]

Come on, Brad.

Gotta throw Manny the slider there. If you walk him...you walk him.

[KingGeno]

Shut the fuck up, Joe Buck. God he is horrible. Blows every star he is around.

[scottinnj]

C'MON! HE HAS HIT ALL NIGHT! WTF?

There is no shame in walking a guy who's been rocking you all night. I don't care who is on the mound. He is just a disaster to us.

[K.C.]

Are You Fucking Kidding Me?!?! Block The Ball!!!!!!

[KingGeno]

Just great.

[scottinnj]

Wow, this is unreal. It's like I'm on Earth II and a Mets fan.

[K.C.]

Great pitch to get out of it.

Three more outs.

I'm losing my mind.

[scottinnj]

Jesus Christ! 15 pitches to get one out!

Memo to Charlie:
WALK MANNY

[KingGeno]

My SMOKIN' hot brunette friend Mariann just got kicked out of the game. She clocked some blonde douche guy for yelling at her to sit down. :furious::furious:

[scottinnj]

Great pitch to get out of it.

Three more outs.

I'm losing my mind.

They get those three without any more damage-we're one game away from the Fall Classic.

I'm getting ahead of myself-just one game at a time boys, one game at a time.

[scottinnj]

My SMOKIN' hot brunette friend Mariann just got kicked out of the game. She clocked some blonde douche guy for yelling at her to sit down. :furious::furious:



I hope it was Babs.

[scottinnj]

Now Howard, hit it out and shut these LA fucks up!

[KingGeno]

Ever notice that Howard NEVER lunges or bends over for swings? Weird.

I hope it was Babs.

I hope it was Pat Sajak.

[scottinnj]

Ultley is just an all around great ballplayer. Way to save a double play!

[K.C.]

Ever notice that Howard NEVER lunges or bends over for swings? Weird.


I think keeping that balance is what gives him such opposite field power.

The biggest hole in his swing, though, is that he pulls his hips out too early on lot of inside balls. He does it almost every time he grounds into the shift.

[KingGeno]

Vic Got Fined?!?!?!?!?!?! Wtf!

[scottinnj]

Oh God, the orphan is talking now.

[scottinnj]

1 down, 2 to go.

[scottinnj]

2 down, 1 more

[scottinnj]

If we win tonight, do you play Cole tomorrow?

[K.C.]

ONE WIN AWAY!!!!

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::c lap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

[scottinnj]

Three Games To One!

One More To Go!
let's Go Phillies!!!!

[KingGeno]

YAHOO!
ONE MORE WIN! Come on Cole!!!

My friend Mariann was interviewed by Fox. You may see her shortly. Keep watching the post, and possibly the news. She is hot!


BIG WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel much better now!

[K.C.]

If we win tonight, do you play Cole tomorrow?

Hell yeah!

End this tomorrow.

[K.C.]

I love Matt Stairs.

He just told Rosenthal "Yeah, I swing for the fences every time I bat."

[scottinnj]

He could be our new Greg Luzinski. Anyone up for a new "Bull" pen in the Bank?

[KingGeno]

Yea, I'm happy with him. We now know to bring that burly abuser to the plate when we need some clutch hitting.

Victorino for series MVP, yo!

[KingGeno]

He could be our new Greg Luzinski. Anyone up for a new "Bull" pen in the Bank?

Hmm.

Bulls BBQ.....................Stairs um... Pears?

[scottinnj]

Victorino for series MVP, yo!


QFT!!!


I loved that trash talking he gave to Kuroda last night to clear the dugouts. He is a Philly boy through and through!

[K.C.]

Victorino for series MVP, yo!


No doubt!

Right now he's the MVP of the entire postseason.

[scottinnj]

I can't believe this has to wait til Wednesday. I should go on a bender and just drunk it out till first pitch.

[KingGeno]

Somebody in the R&F Listening Thread said that Victorino is a "dirty player and a fucking punk", becuase he apparently did very hurtful things to the Mets. Please.
Kid is a hell of a player, fiery and has a hell of a heart. Can't hold that against him.

We are ONE WIN AWAY! It's like a dream!

My friend Mariann may be on Fox shortly. They interviewed her.

[PhilDeez]

I love Matt Stairs.

He just told Rosenthal "Yeah, I swing for the fences every time I bat."

Despite the utter pain and anger I am experiencing right now, I have to agree. If my team has to go down, why not to a fat 40 year old who has bounced around the league for 14 years and finally gets to send one yard to basically send your team packing for the world series, seriously. When he got back to the dugout and showed his emotions, I was in to this guy. Nice story, nice win, great game.
Now that this is all but over, I really would like to see Moyer win the series for the Phils after that beating he took yesterday. Don't know why, but I felt for the guy last night.
Now its off to mending the fences with the wife for over the top outbursts during this fiasco of a game.

[KingGeno]

Woot! Mariann still lookin' hot! :devil2:

[K.C.]

I hope it was Pat Sajak.

Yeah, I kept noticing Sajak and his kid sitting near the Dodger dugout.

Penny Marshall was stuffing her fat face down in one of the boxes behind home plate.

Danny DeVito was down behind home plate last night. Didn't see him tonight.

Mary Hart's been in the same spot for the first two games, behind the plate.

Babs and her husband were up in Frank McCourt's field box.


That's about all I could make out.

[TripleSkeet]

That may have been the most stressfull exciting game Ive ever watched.


I hope they decide to just walk Manny at every at bat from now on.

[K.C.]

I was looking at the value of my World Series tickets on StubHub today. They're going for a minimum of $1000 per ticket in my section.

Tempting, but absolutely no way I'd sell.

[KingGeno]

I was looking at the value of my World Series tickets on StubHub today. They're going for a minimum of $1000 per ticket in my section.

Tempting, but absolutely no way I'd sell.

I'm in the same boat. I can sell one game to pay for my season tickets next year......... but I just can't do it.

[tbagnu]

which game and section are you guys in? i have tix to game 3 in section 427.

[PhilDeez]

I was looking at the value of my World Series tickets on StubHub today. They're going for a minimum of $1000 per ticket in my section.

Tempting, but absolutely no way I'd sell.

I'm in the same boat. I can sell one game to pay for my season tickets next year......... but I just can't do it.

which game and section are you guys in? i have tix to game 3 in section 427.

Or they could end up worthless...

[Fezticle98]

I love Matt Stairs.

He just told Rosenthal "Yeah, I swing for the fences every time I bat."

“When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you’re getting your ass hammered by guys — there’s no better feeling than to have that done.”- Matt Stairs

A body like Fez...and a mind like Fez.

[K.C.]

which game and section are you guys in? i have tix to game 3 in section 427.

I'd have to check, but I'm pretty sure it's either the 110 side along the first base line or the 130 side.

I've got Game 4 right now. Hoping to get an opportunity for the Phillies to buy Games 3 and 5.


But they wouldn't release info on it until they actually clinch.

[K.C.]

Man, I'm extremely pumped for this game already.

This needs to be ended with Cole tonight.

I don't want to take any chances with Myers and Blanton possibly fucking this up, even though they've been ok so far.

Win this one, take some time off, set the rotation, and come back ready to go to work.

Hopefully Boston can prolong the ALCS a little bit (or win it), and screw up the rotation for whoever is coming out of the AL, although the last two nights don't seem to indicate that will happen.

Either way, the Phils need to lock this up.

[KingGeno]

If they don't let Moyer pitch in the World Series I will start stabbin' people.

[K.C.]

If they don't let Moyer pitch in the World Series I will start stabbin' people.

He will if they get there.

Just may not be until Game 4.

Although I'd throw him Game 3. The more I think about, there's absolutely no way I would set the rotation where Joe Blanton is pitching a possible Game 7. You HAVE to go Moyer in any Game 7.

He's the one guy, Hamels and Myers included, that I could be 100% confident that he would not get rattled by the pressure of the situation.

[PigShitIrish]

Poor Rafael, 3 errors in one inning!!

[K.C.]

T H _ _ H _ L L _ _ S _ R _ G _ _ _ G T _ T H _ W _ R L _ S _ R _ _ S

[K.C.]

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T H _ P H _ L L _ _ S _ R _ G _ _ _ G T _ T H _ W _ R L _ S _ R _ _ S

[K.C.]

t H _ P H _ L L _ _ S _ R _ G _ _ _ G T _ T H _ W _ R L _ S _ R _ _ S

T H _ P H _ L L _ _ S _ R _ G _ _ N G T _ T H _ W _ R L _ S _ R _ _ S

[K.C.]

t H _ P H _ L L _ _ S _ R _ G _ _ N G T _ T H _ W _ R L _ S _ R _ _ S

T H _ P H _ L L _ _ S _ R _ G _ _ N G T _ T H _ W _ R L D S _ R _ _ S

[K.C.]

t H _ P H _ L L _ _ S _ R _ G _ _ N G T _ T H _ W _ R L D S _ R _ _ S

T H _ P H _ L L _ _ S A R _ G _ _ N G T _ T H _ W _ R L D S _ R _ _ S

[cougarjake13]

ssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhh

the cubs thought so too in 2003

[K.C.]

t H _ P H _ L L _ _ S A R _ G _ _ N G T _ T H _ W _ R L D S _ R _ _ S

T H _ P H _ L L _ _ S A R _ G O _ N G TO T H _ WORLD S _ R _ _ S

[scottinnj]

This "sounds of the game" by putting a mic on Shane is stupid.

[K.C.]

t H _ P H _ L L _ _ S A R _ G O _ N G To T H _ World S _ R _ _ S

T H _ P H I L L I _ S A R _ GOING TO T H _ WORLD S _ R I _ S

[PigShitIrish]

3 Outs Left!!!!!!!!!!!

[Doogie]

This "sounds of the game" by putting a mic on Shane is stupid.

I fucking hate Joe Buck...I put the game on mute and listen on my XM.

[scottinnj]

LIGHTS OUT!

GUERILLA RADIO!

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2008/02/23/lidge_brad_getty_260.jpg
TURN THAT SHIT UP!

[scottinnj]

I fucking hate Joe Buck...I put the game on mute and listen on my XM.

Dude, it's awful...I wish I had a home unit for my Inno. The commentary has been stupid.

"Billingsley is going to throw a slider in this situation"

"Well, he threw a fastball"

Just crap

[scottinnj]

3 Outs Left!!!!!!!!!!!


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/Philadelphia_Phillies_Cap_(1970_-_1991).png

[scottinnj]

The Dodgers aren't stupid. All series long they have waited for Lidge to pitch it to them.

This is nerve-wracking.

[K.C.]

t H _ P H I L L I _ S A R _ Going To T H _ World S _ R I _ S

The Phillies Are Going To The World Series!!!
The Phillies Are Going To The World Series!!!
The Phillies Are Going To The World Series!!!

[PigShitIrish]

Get the pots and pans out!!!!!!!!!

[scottinnj]

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o217/themarshal/TugMcGraw.jpg

THE PHILLIES WIN THE PENNANT!!!!!

[hammersavage]

Congrats guys. You deserve it. Get hammered tonight!

[Doogie]

Perfect that Nomar got last out...the Sox couldnt do shit with him, nor the Cubs. Now the Rays need to win...

[scottinnj]

http://www.hotfootblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/t1_victorino.jpg

[Recyclerz]

Congrats to the Phillies Phans!

A Philly-Tampa Bay World Series ought to lead to a great week of Ron & Fez shows, if not the best TV ratings.

[scottinnj]

Congrats guys. You deserve it. Get hammered tonight!

Thanks bro. It's ON!

[scottinnj]

Congrats to the Phillies Phans!

A Philly-Tampa Bay World Series ought to lead to a great week of Ron & Fez shows, if not the best TV ratings.

You got that right. I hope "the herd" chokes on the radio tomorrow.

[Fallon]

Suck it Manny!

:clap:

[PerryWinkle]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Reephdweller]

The Phillies Are Going To The World Series!!!
The Phillies Are Going To The World Series!!!
The Phillies Are Going To The World Series!!!


I FUCKING LOVE IT!!!

[drjoek]

Congrats Phillies!!!!

[spoon]

Even though it's not the same without Surpreisenreich, Dutch, Mitch and Schill, at least this time I can root for the Sillies!

Congrats Philly peeps!

[PhilDeez]

Tough night for me, my team shits the bed, my candidate follows suit, oh well.
Congrats to all you Phils fans. The better team won; the better manager won. And for the record Billingsley sucks donkey balls, Rollins is a beast.
Crushing blow, but the NL is well represented.
I just hope Moyer gets a chance at redemption in the WS, he deserves it.

[spoon]

Suck it Manny!

:clap:

Wow, how quickly you dump on a huge part of the Sox past!?! :blink:


And Reeph, are you a Phil fan now?

[PhilDeez]

Suck it Manny!

:clap:

Maybe so, and this isn't the Dodgers or the BoSox thread, but without him the Dodgers aren't even this far. So to you, suck it Sox, enjoy watching the WS this year at home.

[K.C.]

Maybe so, and this isn't the Dodgers or the BoSox thread, but without him the Dodgers aren't even this far.

Never has a truer statement been made.

Even tonight....his at bat against Madson was incredible.

[scottinnj]

I just hope Moyer gets a chance at redemption in the WS, he deserves it.

QFT-we'll see in Game Four.

[scottinnj]

Never has a truer statement been made.

Even tonight....his at bat against Madson was incredible.

You got that right....there's no shame in walking a superstar. The way Shane played so far this post-season, I wasn't surprised he was walked twice tonight.

[ChrisTheCop]

I was hoping my team would be playing the dodgers,
but our chances at another 7 straight win championship just got better!!

[spoon]

I was hoping my team would be playing the dodgers,
but our chances at another 7 straight win championship just got better!!

Right.

Rays in 6.

[scottinnj]

I was hoping my team would be playing the dodgers,
but our chances at another 7 straight win championship just got better!!

If Francona can pull that off, my hat's off to the Sox. But if they get in, GAME ON!

[ChrisTheCop]

If Francona can pull that off 3 times in 5 years, my hat's off to the Sox. But if they get in, GAME ON!

fixed for truthiness.

[K.C.]

If Francona can pull that off, my hat's off to the Sox. But if they get in, GAME ON!

I think you just nailed it.

It's Tito....come on, he still sucks. Red Sox success is a product of Wonderboy Epstein.


Honestly, I wouldn't sweat the Red Sox one bit. Beckett looks like garbage, Lowell is out. Lester twice could be a challenge, but Hamels could out pitch him in their head to head starts.


But it's going to be the Rays. And I honestly have no clue how to gauge Tampa. Should be fun.

[KingGeno]

FUCKN CHUGA-LUGGIN some LIONSHEAD! GO MF PHILS BITCHES!


VIC FOR MVP BUT WHATEV> POOPYTRAP! YTAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KingGeno]

PHILS! WORLD SERIES! YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Hard Nips. YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[K.C.]

Time to break this out again

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[jauble]

Congrats phils fans (Hey rouski) I bet you cant wait to be the first team in the history of baseball to lose to Tampa in the World Series.




(silent prayer that Im not the new hippo)

[spoon]

But it's going to be the Rays. And I honestly have no clue how to gauge Tampa. Should be fun.

I just got rid of the other stuff bc it's not going to happen, but here's your Rays report.

Fast, young, fast, explosive, fast with very good pitching start to finish.

http://f3.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_mlb_experts__14/ept_sports_mlb_experts-295895988-1224105341.jpg?ym.F_KAD_jWwljVu
Boston is burning!

[K.C.]

I just got rid of the other stuff bc it's not going to happen, but here's your Rays report.

Fast, young, fast, explosive, fast with very good pitching start to finish.


I was mostly talking about I have no idea what to expect in terms of how the Phillies match up.

They've got one lefty starter in Kazmir, but he's been the shakiest of that staff to this point. Shields and Sonnastine are guys the Phillies can hang with.

Garza's the guy that looks untouchable.


Hamels and Moyer can actually probably hang with the Rays lineup.

Not sure about Myers and Blanton.

Phils do have the best bullpen in baseball, though.

[KingGeno]

I'll fuckin' take "the phillies blow" predictions. Bring it on bitches. Kathy Romana is on me nuts, so like +++++! GO PHILS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[PigShitIrish]

Kathy Romana is on me nuts, so like +++++! GO PHILS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.kathyromano.net/pics/034.jpg

If she's anything like Kathy Romano, then God Blessssssssssssssssssss!

[KingGeno]

Lick the crack of ho' butt. GO PHILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TripleSkeet]

What a game. Broad St. was nuts and McFaddens was a madhouse. See you guys in the series!!!

[A.J.]

So did the Ronnie B Cupcake work in reverse?

[chubbyknuckles]

Poor Phillie's fans, getting to the world series to just get beat by the red hot devil rays. Best part of this post season is watching the Red Sox get old in a few games. Hopefully it's enough to finally get Youkalis to have his fat mongaloid head explode!

[skyscraper]

Poor Phillie's fans, getting to the world series to just get beat by the red hot devil rays. Best part of this post season is watching the Red Sox get old in a few games. Hopefully it's enough to finally get Youkalis to have his fat mongaloid head explode!

you just keep on thinking that. whatever you need to do to comfort yourself over your own team's impotence.

[EddieMoscone]

Yesterday's Caller with the "Ichiban From The Future" predicted the exact score...

[KingGeno]

That's a tough call on MVP. I really really really would have been happy with victorino getting it, but Hamels deserved it also.

[glenndog]

awesome game awesome series. I don't want my heart broken.

[Furtherman]

*BIG F'n SMILE*

[KingGeno]

Keep in mind. You will hear a LOT about how the Phillies are gonna get crushed this week. Just like you heard for the NLCS. And the NLDS. And the end of the season. And all season.

Never make predictions. Specially bout the future.

[Furtherman]

Never make predictions. Specially bout the future.

Yesterday's Caller with the "Ichiban From The Future" predicted the exact score...

Ok, maybe ONE.

[glenndog]

Keep in mind. You will hear a LOT about how the Phillies are gonna get crushed this week. Just like you heard for the NLCS. And the NLDS. And the end of the season. And all season.

Never make predictions. Specially bout the future.

I don't think anyone picked the Phils in 5.

[spadanko]

Congrats fools

[KingGeno]

I don't think anyone picked the Phils in 5.

ESD, I believe.

[K.C.]

I don't think anyone picked the Phils in 5.

Only two people outside of Philadelphia, that I saw, picked the Phillies to win this series at all. Rob Neyer on ESPN, and the Dodger beat writer for the Orange County Register.



If the Rays win the ALCS, the national media will jump on their nuts like no one could imagine. If the Red Sox win, it'll be another 'team of destiny' bullshit mantra for them coming back from down 3-1.

Either way, the Phillies will once again get no love.

Although, Kruk was picking them to win the Series regardless of who they play, last night (I guess he learned his lesson from jumping on the Dodger bandwagon). But it IS just Kruk.

I can't wait, however....can't wait....for Steve Phillips to predict a Rays sweep. I know it's coming.

[glenndog]

Either way, the Phillies will once again get no love.


I am fine with that. I am looking forward to seeing the phils play with a DH. I can't wait to see what they look like with an extra bat in the line up.

[skyscraper]

Only two people outside of Philadelphia, that I saw, picked the Phillies to win this series at all. Rob Neyer on ESPN, and the Dodger beat writer for the Orange County Register.



If the Rays win the ALCS, the national media will jump on their nuts like no one could imagine. If the Red Sox win, it'll be another 'team of destiny' bullshit mantra for them coming back from down 3-1.

Either way, the Phillies will once again get no love.

Although, Kruk was picking them to win the Series regardless of who they play, last night (I guess he learned his lesson from jumping on the Dodger bandwagon). But it IS just Kruk.

I can't wait, however....can't wait....for Steve Phillips to predict a Rays sweep. I know it's coming.

don't knock Kruk, he is a damn good analyst and can be prescient. and he's not a homer: he wouldn't pick the phils just because he used to play here.
you're right, the phils will get no love. that's fine, the play just great when they get no love. they'll earn that love though.
look at fucking Kevin Kennedy. Before game 4, on fox, jeanie zelasko asked him for his prediction. he predicted that not only would the dodgers win game 4 but game 5 also. now HE'S a homer for the dodgers, but no one calls him on it. I am thinking of calling The Show this afternoon on 175 and giving him shit.

[KingGeno]

No ones commented, so I'll post the question again.

Should Hamels be the MVP or Shave Victorino?

It was awesome hearing Victorino mic'd up. He said "I never in my wildest dreams thought I would be intentionally walked ever."

[skyscraper]

I am fine with that. I am looking forward to seeing the phils play with a DH. I can't wait to see what they look like with an extra bat in the line up.

Matt Stairs as dh or jenkins?

[KingGeno]

Dobbs was the shit as Pinch hitter this year. If he is assigned DH, does that nullify him from being switched to another position? Or?

Matt Stairs........imagine that?

[glenndog]

No ones commented, so I'll post the question again.

Should Hamels be the MVP or Shave Victorino?

It was awesome hearing Victorino mic'd up. He said "I never in my wildest dreams thought I would be intentionally walked ever."

Hamels has pitched great so far this playoffs so I would not say he didn't deserve it but I am a little surprised he got it over Victorino.

[glenndog]

Matt Stairs as dh or jenkins?

I go Dobbs. He's just not that good a fielder.

[skyscraper]

Dobbs was the shit as Pinch hitter this year. If he is assigned DH, does that nullify him from being switched to another position? Or?

Matt Stairs........imagine that?

yes, it does nullify him from being in the field, but that would be ok, and hopefully would only be the case for the first 2 games.

[KingGeno]

Anyone else see Alyssa Milano last night? She is so amazingly super hot nowadays............

[glenndog]

Anyone else see Alyssa Milano last night? She is so amazingly super hot nowadays............

holy smokes she looked good.


I don't mean to be vulgar but I'd eat her ass with a spoon.

[K.C.]

No ones commented, so I'll post the question again.

Should Hamels be the MVP or Shave Victorino?

It was awesome hearing Victorino mic'd up. He said "I never in my wildest dreams thought I would be intentionally walked ever."


Hamels.


Matt Stairs as dh or jenkins?

Against right-handers, Dobbs as DH (except when Garza pitches, then I'd put Dobbs at 3B, and Stairs at DH).

Against left-handers, my guess is they'll use Bruntlett or Taguchi in LF, and Burrell as the DH.

Although, if they add Marson to the World Series roster, they could keep Burrell in LF, and use Coste as the DH.

[skyscraper]

they mentioned that charlie is going back to VA to attend his mother's funeral. is the rest of the team going also? I think that would be the thing to do unless the Manuel family specifically wanted to keep it family-only.

[skyscraper]

Hamels.




Against right-handers, Dobbs as DH (except when Garza pitches, then I'd put Dobbs at 3B, and Stairs at DH).

Against left-handers, my guess is they'll use Bruntlett or Taguchi in LF, and Burrell as the DH.

Although, if they add Marson to the World Series roster, they could keep Burrell in LF, and use Coste as the DH.

christ I hope they don't use Taguchi. he sucks. put Bruntlett in left if Burrell is the dh.

[glenndog]

christ I hope they don't use Taguchi. he sucks. put Bruntlett in left if Burrell is the dh.

I HATE Taguchi. skinny ass slope.

[K.C.]

christ I hope they don't use Taguchi. he sucks. put Bruntlett in left if Burrell is the dh.

The only other option is you drop Taguchi or Jenkins (or one of the pitchers like Happ) from the roster, add Marson, and then use Coste as the DH against lefties.

But I really don't see them using Coste unless they have a third catcher on the bench.

It'll probably be Taguchi.

But the plus side is, if it's the Rays, they only have one left-handed starter in Kazmir. So you end up using Taguchi once...maybe twice if it goes deep into the series.

[skyscraper]

The only other option is you drop Taguchi or Jenkins (or one of the pitchers like Happ) from the roster, add Marson, and then use Coste as the DH against lefties.

But I really don't see them using Coste unless they have a third catcher on the bench.

It'll probably be Taguchi.

But the plus side is, if it's the Rays, they only have one left-handed starter in Kazmir. So you end up using Taguchi once...maybe twice if it goes deep into the series.

then drop taguchi, add marson, and use coste against Kazmir. I do recollect a third catcher they could use, though can't remember his name. I think he played in one or two games in September and looked pretty good.

[Furtherman]

Philly fans... be sure to drop LA Times sports columnist TJ Simers an email today.

To bad their lame website doesn't allow public postings.

This is a guy who wrote a column, titled Philly will be left in ruins (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20081010_Philly_will_be_left_in_ruins.html), and after taking shots at the physical city, with no real analysis, said the Phillies will lose.

Now as intimidating as Philly likes to think it is, could the Dodgers come up with one win in Game 6 or Game 7 to move on?

"If it comes down to that," Manager Joe Torre said, "we can get one more win."

So there you go, the Phillies lose again, but then what's new?

By the way, the original title has been changed on the Times website. (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-columnist-tsimers,1,2220369.columnist)

Looooo-ser.

[glenndog]

Philly fans... be sure to drop LA Times sports columnist TJ Simers an email today.

To bad their lame website doesn't allow public postings.

This is a guy who wrote a column, titled Philly will be left in ruins (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20081010_Philly_will_be_left_in_ruins.html), and after taking shots at the physical city, with no real analysis, said the Phillies will lose.



By the way, the original title has been changed on the Times website. (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-columnist-tsimers,1,2220369.columnist)

Looooo-ser.

thank you. I read this before the series but forgot to bookmark it. you da man.

[spoon]

holy smokes she looked good.


I don't mean to be vulgar but I'd eat her ass with a spoon.

Keep me out of this third u third tier trash!
















:wink:

[spoon]

From all the predictions I've read, I'd have to say they were split down the middle....most going 6 or 7 games. I'm not so sure your Phils are quite the underdogs you make them out to be in the press. In my mind, they easily have a better team, more experience, better overall pitching and the Dodgers have Manny.

[glenndog]

From all the predictions I've read, I'd have to say they were split down the middle....most going 6 or 7 games. I'm not so sure your Phils are quite the underdogs you make them out to be in the press. In my mind, they easily have a better team, more experience, better overall pitching and the Dodgers have Manny.

there were many reporters that picked the phils, just not in 5 games. I know I saw a few (la reporters) that had picked the Dodgers in 5.

And you wouldn't join me in dining out on Alyssa Milano"s ass?

[K.C.]

Pitching Probables:

Game 1 - Cole Hamels vs. James Shields
Game 2 - Brett Myers vs. Scott Kazmir
Game 3 - Jamie Moyer vs. Matt Garza
Game 4 - Joe Blanton vs. Andy Sonnastine


If they get another big Game 1 out of Cole, the Phils will be in good shape.

I like getting Garza and Sonnastine on the road. If pitching in Citizens Bank Park rattled both Derek Lowe and Chad Billingsley (which both admitted after the fact), it should help in tagging Garza and Sonnastine.

The only potential change I could see on the Phillies end is moving Moyer up to Game 2, and pitching Myers at home for Game 3, where he pitches better.

[K.C.]

they mentioned that charlie is going back to VA to attend his mother's funeral. is the rest of the team going also? I think that would be the thing to do unless the Manuel family specifically wanted to keep it family-only.

He's supposedly a pretty private guy. I imagine he'll go by himself.

[TripleSkeet]

Pitching Probables:

Game 1 - Cole Hamels vs. James Shields
Game 2 - Brett Myers vs. Scott Kazmir
Game 3 - Jamie Moyer vs. Matt Garza
Game 4 - Joe Blanton vs. Andy Sonnastine


If they get another big Game 1 out of Cole, the Phils will be in good shape.

I like getting Garza and Sonnastine on the road. If pitching in Citizens Bank Park rattled both Derek Lowe and Chad Billingsley (which both admitted after the fact), it should help in tagging Garza and Sonnastine.

The only potential change I could see on the Phillies end is moving Moyer up to Game 2, and pitching Myers at home for Game 3, where he pitches better.


So much for that happening now.

[skyscraper]

holy fuck, I went to bed when the rays were up 7-0, with thought of a rays/phils world series. how could I have missed it?!?!?!?
I am so pissed at myself.

[KingGeno]

Rays are a good clutch team. The BoSox are also. great series.

[K.C.]

So much for that happening now.

It's still going to happen.

Just delayed a bit. I hope the Red Sox snatch Game 6, too. That way, everyone plays through Sunday, while the Phillies get some nice R&R.

[Ritalin]

It's still going to happen.

Just delayed a bit. I hope the Red Sox snatch Game 6, too. That way, everyone plays through Sunday, while the Phillies get some nice R&R.

Careful, they could lose all that mo' they've got going.

You can clinch too soon.

[K.C.]

Careful, they could lose all that mo' they've got going.

You can clinch too soon.

For a lot of teams, yes.

For the Phillies, not so much.

There's no rhythm to their offense. They just hack, strikeout, and hit home runs.

And all their pitchers seem to do better on extended rest, especially Hamels.

[KingGeno]

LISTEN TO THIS SHIT!

So I've had the Phillies season ticket package for the past few years, along with a few friends. First few years I sat with a chick friend of mine. Last few I've moved away from sitting next to holes, and chillin' with my buddies in our own seats. I like watching the game, not listening to holes chatter.

So anyway. This one female friend of mine has four seats reserved with their ticket package. Three are occupied, one is a floater for whoever wants to come to the game. This fuckin' broad moved to New York about two months ago, met some Yankees fan, and now this asshole girl wants to bring this NY fuckin' Yankees fan to Game 4 and 5 at the Bank. This fuckin' guy she dated for ONE MONTH, and isn't even from Philly and isn't even a fan...... I blasted this bitch about it, and how there are PLENTY of our friends that she should be bringing instead of some fuckin' out of towner no fan. Apparently he won't be wearing Phillies gear, and will be THAT GUY in the crowd.

Tell me why I shouldn't cave her fuckin' face in with my paws........... :furious::furious::furious::furious: Could be the biggest goddamn game in Phillies history..........this rich cunt brings a NY Yankees fan.........

[Furtherman]

Dude! Chill! So what, you're there to watch the game, right? You just said you've moved away from sitting next to holes... so what if she is sitting with some guy who isn't wearing a Phillies shirt?

[TheMojoPin]

LISTEN TO THIS SHIT!

So I've had the Phillies season ticket package for the past few years, along with a few friends. First few years I sat with a chick friend of mine. Last few I've moved away from sitting next to holes, and chillin' with my buddies in our own seats. I like watching the game, not listening to holes chatter.

So anyway. This one female friend of mine has four seats reserved with their ticket package. Three are occupied, one is a floater for whoever wants to come to the game. This fuckin' broad moved to New York about two months ago, met some Yankees fan, and now this asshole girl wants to bring this NY fuckin' Yankees fan to Game 4 and 5 at the Bank. This fuckin' guy she dated for ONE MONTH, and isn't even from Philly and isn't even a fan...... I blasted this bitch about it, and how there are PLENTY of our friends that she should be bringing instead of some fuckin' out of towner no fan. Apparently he won't be wearing Phillies gear, and will be THAT GUY in the crowd.

Tell me why I shouldn't cave her fuckin' face in with my paws........... :furious::furious::furious::furious: Could be the biggest goddamn game in Phillies history..........this rich cunt brings a NY Yankees fan.........

Are you sure she's a friend of yours?

[K.C.]

LISTEN TO THIS SHIT!

So I've had the Phillies season ticket package for the past few years, along with a few friends. First few years I sat with a chick friend of mine. Last few I've moved away from sitting next to holes, and chillin' with my buddies in our own seats. I like watching the game, not listening to holes chatter.

So anyway. This one female friend of mine has four seats reserved with their ticket package. Three are occupied, one is a floater for whoever wants to come to the game. This fuckin' broad moved to New York about two months ago, met some Yankees fan, and now this asshole girl wants to bring this NY fuckin' Yankees fan to Game 4 and 5 at the Bank. This fuckin' guy she dated for ONE MONTH, and isn't even from Philly and isn't even a fan...... I blasted this bitch about it, and how there are PLENTY of our friends that she should be bringing instead of some fuckin' out of towner no fan. Apparently he won't be wearing Phillies gear, and will be THAT GUY in the crowd.

Tell me why I shouldn't cave her fuckin' face in with my paws........... :furious::furious::furious::furious: Could be the biggest goddamn game in Phillies history..........this rich cunt brings a NY Yankees fan.........


This is one of the grossest atrocities ever foisted on mankind.

If she's going to do that, drop some hints like

"Yeah...he should wear his Yankees gear.....oh, no...nothing will happen...all he may get is some good-natured ribbing...nothing serious."

And then let good old fashion Stadium Justice take care of them.

They'll last all of about a half inning before there's some kind of incident.

[KingGeno]

I dunno. I'm angry man today, so I am blasting everything.

The thing about it is that there fourth ticket has been reserved for Phillies fans, fathers, and family members all years. Because the account is under her name, she all of a sudden brings in this new guy and brings him also. Kinda slaps a lot of my friends and/or family members in the face that would give anything to go to the game. I'm just hatin' on that decision of hers.

And she isn't much a friend of mine anmymore anyway. Like ya said, I'm not even sitting with them, but I care bout all of my friends as a whole. It's not the fact that he is a NY Yankees fan. It could be an eskimo who has never gone to a game, and I would feel the same way.

[Furtherman]

The thing about it is that there fourth ticket has been reserved for Phillies fans, fathers, and family members all years. Because the account is under her name, she all of a sudden brings in this new guy and brings him also. Kinda slaps a lot of my friends and/or family members in the face that would give anything to go to the game. I'm just hatin' on that decision of hers.

And she isn't much a friend of mine anmymore anyway. Like ya said, I'm not even sitting with them, but I care bout all of my friends as a whole. It's not the fact that he is a NY Yankees fan. It could be an eskimo who has never gone to a game, and I would feel the same way.

You sure that for "all years", those tickets have always gone to Phillies fans? And the account is under her name. She can do whatever the hell she wants with them. I'd bet there are 1,000 people at each game that aren't real Phillies fans and are guests. Sheesh.

And you would deny an Eskimo a chance to see the white man's past time? For shame.

[skyscraper]

LISTEN TO THIS SHIT!

So I've had the Phillies season ticket package for the past few years, along with a few friends. First few years I sat with a chick friend of mine. Last few I've moved away from sitting next to holes, and chillin' with my buddies in our own seats. I like watching the game, not listening to holes chatter.

So anyway. This one female friend of mine has four seats reserved with their ticket package. Three are occupied, one is a floater for whoever wants to come to the game. This fuckin' broad moved to New York about two months ago, met some Yankees fan, and now this asshole girl wants to bring this NY fuckin' Yankees fan to Game 4 and 5 at the Bank. This fuckin' guy she dated for ONE MONTH, and isn't even from Philly and isn't even a fan...... I blasted this bitch about it, and how there are PLENTY of our friends that she should be bringing instead of some fuckin' out of towner no fan. Apparently he won't be wearing Phillies gear, and will be THAT GUY in the crowd.

Tell me why I shouldn't cave her fuckin' face in with my paws........... :furious::furious::furious::furious: Could be the biggest goddamn game in Phillies history..........this rich cunt brings a NY Yankees fan.........

relax. tell her to bring all the yankee fans she wants, to show them what a world series game looks like from the inside.

[KingGeno]

Thank you all for balancing me out. Apparently I am being a douche today.:wink:

[K.C.]

You sure that for "all years", those tickets have always gone to Phillies fans? And the account is under her name. She can do whatever the hell she wants with them. I'd bet there are 1,000 people at each game that aren't real Phillies fans and are guests. Sheesh.


True.

But, like Geno says, this chick knows plenty of people, pretty well, who would give their left testicle to be there.


I've always hated when a guy I know would have some tickets to a pretty big event like this, and give one to his chick, who could not care less, at the expense of one of his friends who would really want to go.

And it's doublely bad if they take their chick at the expense of a relative, like someone's dad, or uncle, or grandfather, or what.


This is the reverse. The chick has a new flavor of the month, and she drops the ticket on someone who probably couldn't care any less, other than the novelty of going to a World Series.


I never understood that aspect of relationships, where people feel like they HAVE to drag the person they're seeing to stuff like this. Sell it to someone who wants to be there.

[KingGeno]

This isn't something that I alone am angry about. There are quite a few of our friends taht are angry. It's just fuct up. This will/may be a pretty big event for us diehard phillies fans. To bring someone who has flat out said he doesn't give a shit about the team and wouldn't be "caught dead wearing Phillies gear" is total crap.

[TripleSkeet]

It's still going to happen.

Just delayed a bit. I hope the Red Sox snatch Game 6, too. That way, everyone plays through Sunday, while the Phillies get some nice R&R.

I doubt theyll have Shields pitch tomorrow then again for Game 1 on 3 days rest.

And Geno, Im with you. That girl sounds like a true twat. You said the tickets are in her name, but does she pay for them herself? I mean, if these are tickets that 3 people went in on together, how does she get to decide who gets the 4th? Either way, bringing someone that could care less when you have friends and family that would die to go is a fucking asshole move.

[skyscraper]

God damn rich cunt!

[KingGeno]

Not sure of their payment setup. She is the one who paid for the tickets on her card, the other gals paid her, etc.

My buddy and I bought our own seat and split a seat. Gonna keep doin' that from now on. It's cool to be able to bring someone different each game, specially our dad's. Plus, if we have no one to go we have a space between us to spit seeds, eat sammiches, smuggle in a midget.

[Snoogans]

Good Luck bro

[King Hippos Bandaid]

congrats 2008 World Series Champs

[skyscraper]

congrats 2008 World Series Champs

as hard as you've been trying to jinx the phillies, it hasn't worked out so far.
face it, you've lost your mojo.

[cougarjake13]

It's still going to happen.

Just delayed a bit. I hope the Red Sox snatch Game 6, too. That way, everyone plays through Sunday, while the Phillies get some nice R&R.



how'd that work out for the colorado rockies last year ??

[cougarjake13]

True.

But, like Geno says, this chick knows plenty of people, pretty well, who would give their left testicle to be there.


I've always hated when a guy I know would have some tickets to a pretty big event like this, and give one to his chick, who could not care less, at the expense of one of his friends who would really want to go.

And it's doublely bad if they take their chick at the expense of a relative, like someone's dad, or uncle, or grandfather, or what.


This is the reverse. The chick has a new flavor of the month, and she drops the ticket on someone who probably couldn't care any less, other than the novelty of going to a World Series.


I never understood that aspect of relationships, where people feel like they HAVE to drag the person they're seeing to stuff like this. Sell it to someone who wants to be there.



i had a similar experience in 2000 with the mets in the world series

i had season tix for a few years (4) me and 3 of my buddays, one had moved to florida in98 so we just found someone to go with that 4th ticket

well most of that season (2000) my chick at the time went to those games
well world series comes and our old buddy wanted to come up and go to the games

my chick didnt understand that she couldnt go b/c our friend who orig was part of buying the season tix was gonna go and not her


needless to say, she didnt go and we broke up not much longer after that

[KingGeno]

She was a dumbass then, and you are prob better off. That's just like our situation, but instead on your one buddy it is a large group if rabid Phillies fans we've brought all year, including family members. Hmmm.....bring someone who would golf clap at a game OR someone I can get ripped with and paint the town red? tough one.

I blasted her yesterday, and she turned it back on me for having anger issues. Rich cunts..... She isn't bringing him to the game now either, so guess we all won.

[TheMojoPin]

I blasted her yesterday, and she turned it back on me for having anger issues.

Jeez, what was she thinking? Ranting about a friend as being a "cunt" and talking about wanting to punch her in the face over baseball tickets...she's nuts! Perfectly rational and levelheaded!

[KingGeno]

Jeez, what was she thinking? Ranting about a friend as being a "cunt" and talking about wanting to punch her in the face over baseball tickets...she's nuts! Perfectly rational and levelheaded!

I know, right? I am always right, and thanks for confirming.

[cougarjake13]

She was a dumbass then, and you are prob better off. That's just like our situation, but instead on your one buddy it is a large group if rabid Phillies fans we've brought all year, including family members. Hmmm.....bring someone who would golf clap at a game OR someone I can get ripped with and paint the town red? tough one.

I blasted her yesterday, and she turned it back on me for having anger issues. Rich cunts..... She isn't bringing him to the game now either, so guess we all won.

oh yeh it worked out cause i wound up meeting my current wife a few weeks later

[KingGeno]

Ok Gentlemen and Gentlewomen. We have three days to discuss the Phils vs. Rays. Let's get to it.

[K.C.]

I think we have the match up we want.

Don't get me wrong, the Rays are fantastic, but the bullpen, outside of Price, has looked a little shaky, they only have one left-handed starter in Kazmir, who will only throw five or six innings, and I think the Phillies' left-handed bats match up well with the Rays' righties.

Plus, this team will do infinitely better playing up to four in the TropDome, than at Fenway.

Just like the last two series, if Hamels can get Game 1, I think it all falls in to place.



I don't think Shields will pitch until Game 2.

Probably go:

Hamels vs. Kazmir
Myers vs. Shields
Moyer vs. Garza
Blanton vs. Sonnastine

[K.C.]

Position by position:

Howard > Pena
Utley > Iwamura
Rollins > Bartlett
Feliz < Longoria
Ruiz < Navarro
Burrell < Crawford
Victorino < Upton
Werth > Gross/Baldelli


Very, very even matchup.

[TheMojoPin]

Position by position:

Howard > Pena
Utley > Iwamura
Rollins > Bartlett
Feliz < Longoria
Ruiz < Navarro
Burrell < Crawford
Victorino < Upton
Werth > Gross/Baldelli


Very, very even matchup.

...

Even Joe Morgan shakes his head at this.

[K.C.]

...

Even Joe Morgan shakes his head at this.

Come on, man.

You've never done that?

Obviously there's no greater strategic value to it.

Still...

[skyscraper]

I agree, this is the matchup I wanted. I am of the opinion that if you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. the rays were the best all season. if they had choked last night, the sox would have had all this momentum because of their history of comebacks, and would have been harder to beat than they should be. Plus, the Sox almost knocked the rays out, proving that they are beatable. that could make the rays a little less aggressive when they play the phils; they won't want to make the same mistakes against us that they did against the sox. playing not to lost is not the same as playing to win.
the rays have been unbelievable all year, and are going to be a very tough team to beat. but I am picking the Phillies in 6.

[TheMojoPin]

Plus, the Sox almost knocked the rays out, proving that they are beatable...

...by a team better than the Phillies.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

go get em

The Sox destroyed the upstart last year

time for you guys to Sweep the Rays


I hate ya, but cant mess with trends

[K.C.]

...by a team better than the Phillies.

Take your bitter Chicagoness and go talk about how Felix Pie is the next Juan Pierre.


WINNERS ARE DISCUSSiNG THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!!

[K.C.]

go get em

The Sox destroyed the upstart last year

time for you guys to Sweep the Rays


I hate ya, but cant mess with trends


Your powers are useless here. Go inject BBQ sauce into your veins.


WINNERS ARE DISCUSSING THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Winners and Philly dont go hand and hand


brag once u have a championship

[TheMojoPin]

Take your bitter Chicagoness and go talk about how Felix Pie is the next Juan Pierre.


WINNERS ARE DISCUSSiNG THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!!

I'm not saying the Phillies can't win it, but let's not pretend like the Phillies and Red Sox are on equal footing.

[K.C.]

I'm not saying the Phillies can't win it, but let's not pretend like the Phillies and Red Sox are on equal footing.

Why, exactly?

Phillies had the best bullpen in baseball, and by far, the best bullpen this postseason. I'd give a slight edge to the Phillies offensively, too.

Obviously, the Sox have much better starting pitching depth (although Hamels may be the best single pitcher in a matchup).

Phils/Sox series would have been pretty even.

If the Sox had a healthy Beckett and a healthy Lowell, you'd give the edge to them, but that's not what they're playing with this postseason.

[TheMojoPin]

The Phillies have more pop, but are MUCH streakier and with shittier defense ad a much worse pitching rotation. Both Sox teams had much better starting pitching than what the Phillies have besides Hamels and the Rays clobbered them. The Phillies basically only trump the Red Sox with their bullpen, and even there not by much. It's a fallacy to point out the Red Sox almost coming back on the Rays and say that means that the Rays can automatically be "beat" by the Phillies. The Phillies' WS victory completely rests on their big bats not being in an off streak.

[KingGeno]

Actually, don't care.

[TheMojoPin]

Why are we discussing a team that is no longer in it, and will not be the same team it was this year next year?

Because someone brought up the Red Sox almost beating the Rays as a sign that the Rays can be beat by the Phillies.

The Rays CAN be beat by the Phillies, but comparing the Red Sox to the Phillies isn't too good an idea.

[K.C.]

The Phillies have more pop, but are MUCH streakier and with shittier defense ad a much worse pitching rotation.

I'd agree, except I wouldn't say 'much worse'

Myers is capable of some ridiculously good starts when he's on. Moyer's solid.


Both Sox teams had much better starting pitching than what the Phillies have besides Hamels and the Rays clobbered them. The Phillies basically only trump the Red Sox with their bullpen, and even there not by much. It's a fallacy to point out the Red Sox almost coming back on the Rays and say that means that the Rays can automatically be "beat" by the Phillies. The Phillies' WS victory completely rests on their big bats not being in an off streak

I would never say that the Rays can be beat because the Sox almost came back.

The Rays can be beat, because the Phillies matchup well.

The Phillies will throw two left-handed changeup based pitchers (one who arguably has the best changeup in baseball) in four of the seven games of this series.

The Rays are a pretty free-swinging team, which makes that a good matchup. Hamels, and especially Moyer, also have two of the best pickoff moves in baseball (because they are balks...even I can admit that), to kind of hamper their running game.

On the flip side, almost everyone on the Rays throws gas. The Phillies are a hard fastball hitting team.

It really plays to their strengths.

The one thing that scares me about Tampa is Price coming out of the bullpen late to face Utley and Howard.

Boston would have been a little more difficult, because I think Dice-K pitches similar to the way Kuroda does in that he throws a lot of different variations of breaking pitches.

Plus, if Wakefield had the good knuckler, he could quite possibly strike out 20 against the Phillies.

That said, either matchup, I think the Phillies have a good shot. They're probably, on paper, a slight underdog to Boston on matchups.

I'd say it's a pick 'em against the Rays.

[TheMojoPin]

I'd agree, except I wouldn't say 'much worse'

Myers is capable of some ridiculously good starts when he's on. Moyer's solid.

Personally, I'd say the Phillies had the weakest starting rotation of any team in the playoffs, but hey, here we are.

[KingGeno]

I'm just waiting for the people that say "fluke world series, whoever wins is a fluke champion" people.

I'm pretty happy with the lineup so far. The Phils have been great against bullpens, and that is a weakness with the Rays.

[K.C.]

I'm just waiting for the people that say "fluke world series, whoever wins is a fluke champion" people.

I'm pretty happy with the lineup so far. The Phils have been great against bullpens, and that is a weakness with the Rays.

Another thing that no one's talked about yet, is stadiums.

The TropDome isn't much of a home field advantage, other than the stupid cowbells. The stadium plays pretty even, it's climate controlled...maybe the turf gives someone like a Howard a little trouble on defense.

I'm not sure anyone on this Rays team has ever pitched in CBP, though.

I'm seen many a great pitcher let that park get in their head. Smoltz still bitches about it every chance he gets. Maddux is on record as hating that place. Both Lowe and Billingsley admitted afterwards that pitching there messed up their rhythm and selection.

I wonder how some of the young Rays pitchers will react, when they see how short those power alleys are.

Plus, it's likely to be in the 40s temperature wise.

[KingGeno]

If the Phillies fans (including myself) can "C.C. Sabathia" all of their pitchers, it will be a good thing. I was there that night, and it was one of the funnest games I've ever been to.

I'm so stoked. I'm gonna be at Game 4, and maybe Game 5.

[skyscraper]

I'm not saying the Phillies can't win it, but let's not pretend like the Phillies and Red Sox are on equal footing.

you're right. we're better than the sox, as evidenced by the fact that we are in the world series and they are not. just like your team.

[StPeteSaint]

you're right. we're better than the sox, as evidenced by the fact that we are in the world series and they are not. just like your team.

The Phillies are a lot like East Side Dave. Sure they put up impressive numbers, but they're essentially playing JV Ball in the National League.

[KingGeno]

Hey! A Rays fan talking shit! How cute! When did you become a Rays fan? Last month? Does your Rays hat still smell like new?

[K.C.]

In bold are some of my favorites.


Carlos Ruiz - Signed as an amateur free agent in 1998
Ryan Howard - Drafted in the 5th round of the 2001 draft
Chase Utley - Drafted in the 1st round (15th overall) of the 2000 draft
Pedro Feliz - Signed as an unrestricted free agent in 2008
Jimmy Rollins - Drafted in the 2nd round of the 1996 draft
Pat Burrell - Drafted in the 1st round (1st overall) of the 1998 draft
Shane Victorino - Selected by the Phillies in the Rule V draft of 2004; Offered back to the Dodgers after failure to stay on the 25 man roster, but was declined, and sent to the Phillies minor league system.
Jayson Werth - Signed as an unrestricted free agent in 2006, after being non-tendered by the Dodgers
Geoff Jenkins - Signed as an unrestricted free agent in 2008
Chris Coste - Signed as a minor league free agent in 2005
Greg Dobbs - Claimed off waivers from the Seattle Mariners in 2007
Eric Bruntlett - Acquired with Brad Lidge in a trade for Michael Bourn, Geoff Geary, and Mike Costanzo in January 2008
So Taguchi - Signed as an unrestricted free agent in 2008
Matt Stairs - Acquired for Fabio Castro in August 2008

Cole Hamels - Drafted in the 1st round (17th overall) of the 2002 draft
Brett Myers - Drafted in the 1st round (12th overall) of the 1999 draft
Jamie Moyer - Acquired for Andy Barb and Andrew Baldwin in August 2006
Joe Blanton - Acquired for Adrian Cardenas, Josh Outman, and Matt Spencer
J.A. Happ - Drafted in the 3rd round of the 2004 draft

Brad Lidge - Acquired with Eric Bruntlett in a trade for Michael Bourn, Geoff Geary, and Mike Costanzo in January 2008
J.C. Romero - Signed as a minor league free agent in June 2007 three days after being released by the Boston Red Sox
Ryan Madson - Drafted in the 9th round of the 1998 draft
Chad Durbin - Signed as a unrestricted free agent in 2008 after being non-tendered by the Detroit Tigers
Clay Condrey - Signed as a minor league free agent in 2005
Scott Eyre - Signed as a free agent in August 2008 after being released by the Chicago Cubs


Bottom line is the Phillies front office knows their shit.

Of the 25 man roster:
10 - Homegrown players (counting the Rule V selection of Victorino)
5 - Acquired by trade
3 - Signed by normal free agent circumstances
3 - Signed as minor league free agents (essentially plucking them from the trash heap)
2 - Signed after being non-tendered (essentially plucking them from the trash heap)
1 - Claimed off waivers (essentially plucking them from the trash heap)
1 - Signed as a Major League free agent mid-season (essentially plucking the from the trash heap)

22 of the 25 players on the roster were either developed in the system, acquired in exchanged for players developed in the system, or found in the bargain bin, after being passed over by the majority of, if not all, other 29 teams.

The three that they signed by normal free agency (Feliz, Jenkins, Taguchi) are arguably the three most expendable players on the roster.

[StPeteSaint]

Hey! A Rays fan talking shit! How cute! When did you become a Rays fan? Last month? Does your Rays hat still smell like new?


So, because you have been following losers for a long time somehow makes you a better person?

For all I can see it just means you can put up with the shit smell a lot better.

I've been a rays fan exactly....three years when I moved to the area from an area without a baseball team. And yeah, the hat does smell kind of new. Got it in February because it was a new design. Those green things were awful looking.


So, what was the phillies record against the varsity teams this year? 3-15?

[K.C.]

So, because you have been following losers for a long time somehow makes you a better person?

For all I can see it just means you can put up with the shit smell a lot better.

I've been a rays fan exactly....three years when I moved to the area from an area without a baseball team. And yeah, the hat does smell kind of new. Got it in February because it was a new design. Those green things were awful looking.


So, what was the phillies record against the varsity teams this year? 3-15?


This is almost as funny as when Marlins fans occasionally show up to talk smack when they finally wake up out of their drunken stupor after Hurricanes games to realize they have a baseball team in the playoffs.

So what did the Bucs outdraw the Rays by last night in Tampa? 3 to 1? 4 to 1???

[StPeteSaint]

This is almost as funny as when Marlins fans occasionally show up to talk smack when they finally wake up out of their drunken stupor after Hurricanes games to realize they have a baseball team in the playoffs.

So what did the Bucs outdraw the Rays by last night in Tampa? 3 to 1? 4 to 1???

Oh my god? You mean people like to be fans of good things? I'm sorry if your tastes run towards shit sandwiches, but that's no reason to take it out on the fans who like successful teams.

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'nuff said.

[K.C.]

'nuff said.

I'm sorry how many Hall of Famers do the Rays have?

Don't worry, though...I'm sure that THIS year will be the year that Greg Vaughn finally gets his due from Cooperstown.

[StPeteSaint]

I'm sorry how many Hall of Famers do the Rays have?

Don't worry, though...I'm sure that THIS year will be the year that Greg Vaughn finally gets his due from Cooperstown.



It's fun to have you still ignore the arguments that the Phillies are simply an inferior team to the Rays, and pretty much any of the American League teams that were in contention this year.

[StPeteSaint]

I'm sorry how many Hall of Famers do the Rays have?

Don't worry, though...I'm sure that THIS year will be the year that Greg Vaughn finally gets his due from Cooperstown.


Lets see, the Rays have been in existence for 10 years...Seems like the Phillies had just as many inducted as the Rays in that time period. Unless you count the Wade Boggs', Sparky Anderson and those who are really associated with other teams, which I don't.

[K.C.]

It's fun to have you still ignore the arguments that the Phillies are simply an inferior team to the Rays, and pretty much any of the American League teams that were in contention this year.

Uh...no.

I laid out exactly why I think the Phillies are poised to win this series earlier in the thread.

[skyscraper]

It's fun to have you still ignore the arguments that the Phillies are simply an inferior team to the Rays, and pretty much any of the American League teams that were in contention this year.

it's *adorable* when people who don't know what they're talking about try to talk shit.

[KingGeno]

it's *adorable* when people who don't know what they're talking about try to talk shit.

But DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD, he JUST became a hardcore fan last month! Cut him some slack. Fuckfaced blind fanboyism with nothing to back it up.

[StPeteSaint]

But DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD, he JUST became a hardcore fan last month! Cut him some slack. Fuckfaced blind fanboyism with nothing to back it up.



So, what was the Phillies record against American League teams again this year?

3-15?

What game did Lidge blow spectacularly? Yeah, that's right, the all star game...against the Varsity team.

Sure, the Phillies might have had a good record against the ladies division of the national leauge, but when they have to play the actual men, they wilt like little girls.

[StPeteSaint]

Uh...no.

I laid out exactly why I think the Phillies are poised to win this series earlier in the thread.

Oh, I'm sorry, I laughed loudly that you posted an analysis that was

Howard>Pena.
et al.

I didn't know that qualifies as serious analysis. I think thinking like that was something that was relevant in "Could Superman beat up Thor" conversations, but not really in a team sport where there is no real direct comparison.

[K.C.]

Not a big reader, I see.

Can't blame, you though. The fact that you live in Tampa and are one of the privileged few who are literate is a triumph in and of itself.

The 'position by position' thing was a joke. It's one of the hackiest thing baseball fans do.

But seeing as 'Rays Nation' came into existence all of about three hours ago, I wouldn't expect you to know that either.



I would never say that the Rays can be beat because the Sox almost came back.

The Rays can be beat, because the Phillies matchup well.

The Phillies will throw two left-handed changeup based pitchers (one who arguably has the best changeup in baseball) in four of the seven games of this series.

The Rays are a pretty free-swinging team, which makes that a good matchup. Hamels, and especially Moyer, also have two of the best pickoff moves in baseball (because they are balks...even I can admit that), to kind of hamper their running game.

On the flip side, almost everyone on the Rays throws gas. The Phillies are a hard fastball hitting team.

It really plays to their strengths.

The one thing that scares me about Tampa is Price coming out of the bullpen late to face Utley and Howard.

Boston would have been a little more difficult, because I think Dice-K pitches similar to the way Kuroda does in that he throws a lot of different variations of breaking pitches.

Plus, if Wakefield had the good knuckler, he could quite possibly strike out 20 against the Phillies.

That said, either matchup, I think the Phillies have a good shot. They're probably, on paper, a slight underdog to Boston on matchups.

I'd say it's a pick 'em against the Rays.

[scottinnj]

I've been a rays fan exactly....three years


Well, I gotta give you credit. That's longer then 99% of the douches in the stadium Sunday night.

I heard today something dumb. XM had a guy on talking up the "noise factor" in Tropicana Stadium. I had to laugh.

It was loud last night, but these Rays have never heard crowd noise like Phillies Phans can generate. And to those who say it was because of the way Veteran's Stadium was built, come on down to the Bank and hear how deafening it can be. We've drowned out the microphones of the broadcasters, and being an open, non-roofed field, that's impressive.