2009 Season - Defending WS Champion Philadelphia Phillies Thread

[scottinnj]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


pedro Feliz!!!!

[hammersavage]

.5 doesn't seem too big right now...Tuesday/Wednesday's gonna be fun man.

[Kevin]

.5 doesn't seem too big right now...Tuesday/Wednesday's gonna be fun man.

Huge week in NY.

Yanks Sox
Mets Phils

[hammersavage]

And the DNC! what an entertaining week.

[scottinnj]

.5 doesn't seem too big right now...Tuesday/Wednesday's gonna be fun man.

Back to the Internetz for me.....Comcast will have those games locked out for all us Directv phillies fans.

[Kevin]

And the DNC! what an entertaining week.

Great carry over to week 1 of the NFL.

[KingGeno]

Great carry over to week 1 of the NFL.

And the DNC! what an entertaining week.

Huge week in NY.

Yanks Sox
Mets Phils

Indeed peops. Gonna be rather entertaining.

Big win, Phils!

I'm happy to see Feliz achieve some good offense. Hopefully he continues doing it.

[K.C.]

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/9894/standingscr8.jpg

Well, on paper, everything seems to set up well for the Phillies.

They're getting timely pitching, the bullpen is lockdown, the Mets have lost Maine and Wagner, both possibly for the year, and Pelfrey is supposedly going to get fewer starts the rest of the way. Plus, their bullpen is patchwork at best.

The one thing that's really keeping me from feeling great about this is Rollins. The team still feels vulnerable without him hitting. If they can just get him hot for even a two week period, I think they'd be in very good shape.

[cougarjake13]

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/9894/standingscr8.jpg

Well, on paper, everything seems to set up well for the Phillies.

They're getting timely pitching, the bullpen is lockdown, the Mets have lost Maine and Wagner, both possibly for the year, and Pelfrey is supposedly going to get fewer starts the rest of the way. Plus, their bullpen is patchwork at best.

The one thing that's really keeping me from feeling great about this is Rollins. The team still feels vulnerable without him hitting. If they can just get him hot for even a two week period, I think they'd be in very good shape.

if is the biggest word in the english language

[scottinnj]

[QUOTE=K.C.;1835335The one thing that's really keeping me from feeling great about this is Rollins. The team still feels vulnerable without him hitting. If they can just get him hot for even a two week period, I think they'd be in very good shape.[/QUOTE]

Well, he seems to be coming around tonight.

HBP

Double

Triple


He just keeps getting left in scoring position-the rest of the lineup must have gotten used to him not being on base.

[KingGeno]

Must win tonight. Mets are up 4-0. Another good outting by Myers, gotta lower the hits against though.

[K.C.]

Yeah, good night for Jimmy.

Charlie said he was pressing at trying to re-find his swing earlier...I tend to believe him. He's had some good at-bats and cuts tonight against a pretty good pitcher, so hopefully he's coming out of it.


I love that Charlie let Myers pitch his way out of that bases loaded jam last inning. Always like to see a pitcher clean up his own mess.

Another great start by Myers...en fuego.

[scottinnj]

Yeah, good night for Jimmy.

Charlie said he was pressing at trying to re-find his swing earlier...I tend to believe him. He's had some good at-bats and cuts tonight against a pretty good pitcher, so hopefully he's coming out of it.


I love that Charlie let Myers pitch his way out of that bases loaded jam last inning. Always like to see a pitcher clean up his own mess.

Another great start by Myers...en fuego.

Yeah, that was great. I was pretty sure Manny would fly out though...he's been playing a nonchalant game all night.

[cougarjake13]

Yeah, good night for Jimmy.

Charlie said he was pressing at trying to re-find his swing earlier...I tend to believe him. He's had some good at-bats and cuts tonight against a pretty good pitcher, so hopefully he's coming out of it.


I love that Charlie let Myers pitch his way out of that bases loaded jam last inning. Always like to see a pitcher clean up his own mess.

Another great start by Myers...en fuego.

guess he not pissed anymore about not being a closer

[K.C.]

guess he not pissed anymore about not being a closer

He's a free agent after '09...he knows what's going to get him his money, hence the good soldier routine.

He throws up a good '09 and he'll cash in big time. He's only 28 right now, so he could get a nice five year payday with a good '09.

[scottinnj]

Unbelievable.

Rollins goes from getting booed to going for the cycle. This man can do it all.

[cougarjake13]

Unbelievable.

Rollins goes from getting booed to going for the cycle. This man can do it all.



cept win a playoff series










:bye::bye::bye::bye::bye::bye:
:tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue:

[scottinnj]

And sweep the Mets-twice








:bye::bye::bye::bye::bye::bye:
:tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue::tongue:


Fixed.

[K.C.]

The playoff series argument is so weak.

It's the equivalent of:

'hey, my parents may have died in a fire...but you stubbed your toe walking up the steps today. LOLZ"


If it was a Yankees fan or a Red Sox fan talking about the Phillies not winning a playoff game...makes sense...

But when something happens like what happened to the '07 Mets...you may just want to concede the war of words on that one, or at least wait until the next season.


I also like the 'we're better because we won more games head-to-head' this season argument. That's all well and good, until you realize that both teams are essentially tied despite that 9-4 advantage, and it means absolutely nothing, because if the Mets go 18-0 vs. the Phillies and they still tie, they'll play a playoff.

Head the head means nothing if you don't win the games AFTER the big series as well

[scottinnj]

Here we go!

Tomorrow night the game is on UPN 57-I get to watch three nights in a row!

Although my two boys have scrimmage games on their respective football teams, so thank God for my DVR!

[hammersavage]

The playoff series argument is so weak.

It's the equivalent of:

'hey, my parents may have died in a fire...but you stubbed your toe walking up the steps today. LOLZ"


If it was a Yankees fan or a Red Sox fan talking about the Phillies not winning a playoff game...makes sense...

But when something happens like what happened to the '07 Mets...you may just want to concede the war of words on that one, or at least wait until the next season.


I also like the 'we're better because we won more games head-to-head' this season argument. That's all well and good, until you realize that both teams are essentially tied despite that 9-4 advantage, and it means absolutely nothing, because if the Mets go 18-0 vs. the Phillies and they still tie, they'll play a playoff.

Head the head means nothing if you don't win the games AFTER the big series as well

I agree BUT ill say this however. The sting of last year was lessened when Philadelphia, once again, did nothing when put in a position to win. Same story since I've been alive.

[cougarjake13]

The playoff series argument is so weak.

It's the equivalent of:

'hey, my parents may have died in a fire...but you stubbed your toe walking up the steps today. LOLZ"


If it was a Yankees fan or a Red Sox fan talking about the Phillies not winning a playoff game...makes sense...

But when something happens like what happened to the '07 Mets...you may just want to concede the war of words on that one, or at least wait until the next season.


I also like the 'we're better because we won more games head-to-head' this season argument. That's all well and good, until you realize that both teams are essentially tied despite that 9-4 advantage, and it means absolutely nothing, because if the Mets go 18-0 vs. the Phillies and they still tie, they'll play a playoff.

Head the head means nothing if you don't win the games AFTER the big series as well


you just proved my point, they were 1 game better but when it mattered most in the playoffs they went 0-3 in the nlds
year prior, the mets went to game 7 of the nlcs ,winning the 1st rd against the dodgers

so in recent memory the mets have done more than the phils


plus he said rollins can do it all and unless im wrong the phillies havent won a playoff series since 93, since rollins wasnt a member of that team, he hasnt done it all

[KingGeno]

I agree BUT ill say this however. The sting of last year was lessened when Philadelphia, once again, did nothing when put in a position to win. Same story since I've been alive.

That is a terrible opinion. Your team failed at the end of last season, but you are happy that the team that kicked your teams ass lost? And still bringing it up. Misdirect hostility. But that was last year, and we moved past that. Apparently the Mets fans can't let it die. Yawn. Real baseball fans lick their wounds when their teams lose or fail. Always next year. Hence why Philly fans are the best, and are NOT frontrunners. Always there for our teams. No arguement.

Moving back to THIS season, great series overall. Manny seems to have played like the Tin-Man, them dodgers sure know how to hit though. Great offense and defense all around for the Phils. Hope it keeps up. Sweep them Mets, and get ready for them Cubbies...

I may have to miss the game tomorrow night. Hope not.

[cougarjake13]

That is a terrible opinion. Your team failed at the end of last season, but you are happy that the team that kicked your teams ass lost? Misdirect hostility. But that was last year, and we moved past that. Apparently the Mets fans can't let it die. Still stings, eh?


.

how is this terrible ??? yes they failed, but as he said it hurts less b/c you guys did nothing with the golden parachute we gave you


and what were we supposed to do ?? turn around and root for the phils to win ??

[K.C.]

how is this terrible ??? yes they failed, but as he said it hurts less b/c you guys did nothing with the golden parachute we gave you


So by this logic, 2006 became meaningless as soon as So Taguchi's home run cleared the leftfield fence?


It IS terrible logic.


You worry about your own team first...everything else is secondary.

Regardless of what the Mets or Padres or Dodgers did in 2006, it sucked because the Phillies missed the Wild Card by one.

I'm not any less annoyed by it because Billy Wagner choked in Game 7. That's a pleasant secondary memory, but it does not change my opinion of the 2006 season from a Phillies persepective.


The same applies in 2007 with the Mets...I think it's completely misguided to say that season doesn't mean as much because the Phillies didn't win if you're a Mets fan. Maybe it would have hurt more if the Phillies won the NL or the WS that year...but it shouldn't hurt less.


I get the inverse of this type of argument with my Yankee fan friend all the time in relation to the 2003 ALCS. He still swears 2003 was a phenominal year because the Aaron Boone game 7 home run crushed Red Sox fans everywhere.

I think he's ridiculous...his team LOST a World Series they should have won...who the fuck cares what happened to the Red Sox...that's secondary. If he's a fan of that team, it should matter more to him that they lost the World Series than it did that the Red Sox endured an epic crushing loss.

By the same token, the full brunt of the '07 collapse should sting just as much, regardless of what happened after the fact.

Now...I think it's perfectly sound logic to say it'll sting less if the Mets came back and won the division this year, similar to how I'm sure Red Sox fans argue that '03 stings less because of '04.

[cougarjake13]

So by this logic, 2006 became meaningless as soon as So Taguchi's home run cleared the leftfield fence?


It IS terrible logic.


You worry about your own team first...everything else is secondary.

Regardless of what the Mets or Padres or Dodgers did in 2006, it sucked because the Phillies missed the Wild Card by one.

I'm not any less annoyed by it because Billy Wagner choked in Game 7. That's a pleasant secondary memory, but it does not change my opinion of the 2006 season from a Phillies persepective.


The same applies in 2007 with the Mets...I think it's completely misguided to say that season doesn't mean as much because the Phillies didn't win if you're a Mets fan. Maybe it would have hurt more if the Phillies won the NL or the WS that year...but it shouldn't hurt less.


I get the inverse of this type of argument with my Yankee fan friend all the time in relation to the 2003 ALCS. He still swears 2003 was a phenominal year because the Aaron Boone game 7 home run crushed Red Sox fans everywhere.

I think he's ridiculous...his team LOST a World Series they should have won...who the fuck cares what happened to the Red Sox...that's secondary. If he's a fan of that team, it should matter more to him that they lost the World Series than it did that the Red Sox endured an epic crushing loss.

By the same token, the full brunt of the '07 collapse should sting just as much, regardless of what happened after the fact.

Now...I think it's perfectly sound logic to say it'll sting less if the Mets came back and won the division this year, similar to how I'm sure Red Sox fans argue that '03 stings less because of '04.




actually it was yadier molina

[cougarjake13]

So by this logic, 2006 became meaningless as soon as So Taguchi's home run cleared the leftfield fence?


It IS terrible logic.


You worry about your own team first...everything else is secondary.

Regardless of what the Mets or Padres or Dodgers did in 2006, it sucked because the Phillies missed the Wild Card by one.

I'm not any less annoyed by it because Billy Wagner choked in Game 7. That's a pleasant secondary memory, but it does not change my opinion of the 2006 season from a Phillies persepective.


The same applies in 2007 with the Mets...I think it's completely misguided to say that season doesn't mean as much because the Phillies didn't win if you're a Mets fan. Maybe it would have hurt more if the Phillies won the NL or the WS that year...but it shouldn't hurt less.


I get the inverse of this type of argument with my Yankee fan friend all the time in relation to the 2003 ALCS. He still swears 2003 was a phenominal year because the Aaron Boone game 7 home run crushed Red Sox fans everywhere.

I think he's ridiculous...his team LOST a World Series they should have won...who the fuck cares what happened to the Red Sox...that's secondary. If he's a fan of that team, it should matter more to him that they lost the World Series than it did that the Red Sox endured an epic crushing loss.

By the same token, the full brunt of the '07 collapse should sting just as much, regardless of what happened after the fact.

Now...I think it's perfectly sound logic to say it'll sting less if the Mets came back and won the division this year, similar to how I'm sure Red Sox fans argue that '03 stings less because of '04.

yes it will sting even less if the mets win the div this year

but yes last year sucked b/c of the way things went down

but seasons over for mets, nothing more to lose or gain so whats left ??

hope the team that beat you out tanks and sucks a big fat deek, which the phils did

does it erase all of 06 ?? no but its like losing your wallet but finding a 100$ bill

[K.C.]

actually it was yadier molina

That's right...Taguchi was the double at the end of Game 6.

[hammersavage]

That is a terrible opinion. Your team failed at the end of last season, but you are happy that the team that kicked your teams ass lost? And still bringing it up. Misdirect hostility. But that was last year, and we moved past that. Apparently the Mets fans can't let it die. Yawn. Real baseball fans lick their wounds when their teams lose or fail. Always next year. Hence why Philly fans are the best, and are NOT frontrunners. Always there for our teams. No arguement.

1. I didn't bring it up, never would, never do. Was responding to someone who did.
2. Kicked out ass by 1 game. I've always said that the Phillies were a game better over 162 game season. No grand choke job, the Phillies were better.
3. It takes a real fan to come back after the way last season ended and look at the attendance, more fans the ever.
4. The only winner that dumb city ever had was that dumb guinea Balboa and look what Thunder Lips did to him.

[cougarjake13]

1. I didn't bring it up, never would, never do. Was responding to someone who did.
2. Kicked out ass by 1 game. I've always said that the Phillies were a game better over 162 game season. No grand choke job, the Phillies were better.
3. It takes a real fan to come back after the way last season ended and look at the attendance, more fans the ever.
4. The only winner that dumb city ever had was that dumb guinea Balboa and look what Thunder Lips did to him.



well they had a nice run in the early 80's

since then not so much

[KingGeno]

J-Roll, Money Grip!!!

[scottinnj]

My stomach is all in knots.

[KingGeno]

Good game so far. J-roll is on fire, and it still looks like the Mets bullpen is hurtin'. Hope the Phils pull through in the clutch.

[scottinnj]

It's games like this that have me surfing the Comcast website looking to drop Directv.

I'm so glad this is on UPN 57 tonight. What an awesome game.

[KingGeno]

Comcast? :lol: Verizon FioS TV & Internet FTMFW!

Pat the Bat is due, goddamit! or not.

[scottinnj]

Comcast? :lol: Verizon FioS TV & Internet FTMFW!

Pat the Bat is due, goddamit! or not.

Fios is unavailable in my area as of yet. "Pease Hode"

[PD]

What an awesome game.
awesome or ulcer inducing?


:down:

[KingGeno]

magic Beard Strikes Back!

[scottinnj]

awesome or ulcer inducing?


:down:

Both.





TIED!!!

[scottinnj]

This is why I'm a Philles fan. NEVER count them out.

[KingGeno]

Both of these teams stink at closing out a victory.

And of course Burrel fails. It's like he would rather take a walk, and keep that On Base Percentage up. Acting just like Abreu.......

[KingGeno]

YAHOO!!!!! FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Completely weird game for each team, but I"ll take that big sweet win!

[scottinnj]

We just broke their backs. Even if they win tomorrow, tonight marks the Mets inevitable slide down the tubes AGAIN!

[KingGeno]

i took notice that the mets thread told you to fuck yourself and go back to the phillies thread. Yet, they whine over here too. Crazy people.

Exhausting games for both teams. TOTALLY unacceptable for Burrell to be 0-7. See if Kendrick pitches tomorrow. Hmm.

BIG WIN THOUGH! :clap::clap:

[scottinnj]

TOTALLY unacceptable for Burrell to be 0-7.

Especially with some of the strikes he looked at. Gift Wrapped Homers From God, and he just stares at 'em going right over the plate.

Yeah, I wonder what they're gonna do with Kendrich now. But they played this game to win tonight-they weren't going to let a comeback like that go down the tubes.

[K.C.]

Was at the Bank tonight...best game I've been to all year.

Just a notch below the 4th game of the August sweep last season for best all-time.




What a win!!! MVP was on fire tonight. Coste came up huge...and tons of credit to Charlie for making that ballsy move of putting Ruiz at 3B in the 8th to preserve Bruntlett.

Paid off HUGE in the 9th.

[KingGeno]

Yea, it was good managing on both sides. You couldn't ask for a more down to the line and entertaining game. I regret selling my tickets for last night, but whatev.

I hope J-Roll keeps it up. Burrell is killing the offense right now. Big props to the lower part of the order and the bench.

[PD]

i took notice that the mets thread told you to fuck yourself and go back to the phillies thread. Yet, they whine over here too. Crazy people.

I hope you weren't referring to my post- I tried (here at least) to be respectful- even though I think Scott is nuts.

[K.C.]

"It's frustrating, but with this team, in this stadium, you never know," Martinez said. "They never give up, especially in this band box."

:lol:


What a tool. Howard's home run was posted at 380 at the park, and Rollins was 390.

The funny thing is that the only one that wouldn't have gotten out last night, at Shea, would have been Tatis's.


As I've said before: Crying 'stadium' is the cry of the loser.

[KingGeno]

I hope you weren't referring to my post- I tried (here at least) to be respectful- even though I think Scott is nuts.

Nah, not you pal.

[KingGeno]

As I've said before: Crying 'stadium' is the cry of the loser.

Surprised the Umps haven't been brought up.

In reality, both teams have problems sealing the deal on big game wins sometimes. It's gonna be interesting to see which team comes out the more weathered team tonight.

[foodcourtdruide]

:lol:


What a tool. Howard's home run was posted at 380 at the park, and Rollins was 390.

The funny thing is that the only one that wouldn't have gotten out last night, at Shea, would have been Tatis's.


As I've said before: Crying 'stadium' is the cry of the loser.

I don't think Pedro was blaming the park for the loss, would you disagree that the stadium is a band box? I really don't see what he said as whining, if anything he gave the Phillies kudos for being a team that never gives up.

It's a beautiful stadium. Going down there made me REALLY excited for Citi Field. Watching a game in a nice ballpark really changes the experience.

[K.C.]

I don't think Pedro was blaming the park for the loss, would you disagree that the stadium is a band box? I really don't see what he said as whining, if anything he gave the Phillies kudos for being a team that never gives up.

It's a beautiful stadium. Going down there made me REALLY excited for Citi Field. Watching a game in a nice ballpark really changes the experience.

When I watched the clip, he was complimenting them, but it was a bit of a backhanded compliment.

He kept saying 'in this stadium' and 'in this bandbox.'

It IS a bandbox. But if he was trying to hint that's what cost him, he's crazy. The two shots he gave up were crushed.

[Marc with a c]

I hope you weren't referring to my post- I tried (here at least) to be respectful- even though I think Scott is nuts.

he couldn't have been referring to me either. i am the one that told scott to fuck off, and this is my first post in this thread.

[K.C.]

Phillies make roster move

First baseman Andy Tracy’s stay with the Phillies was short-lived.

The Phillies designated him for assignment today and purchased the contract of pitcher Andrew Carpenter from Double A Reading.

Carpenter is being called up largely because the length of last night’s game leaves the bullpen thin. It seems unlikely that Clay Condrey would be available and the Phillies used everyone else. Tonight’s starter, Kyle Kendrick, ended up warming up in the 13th inning and threw about 40 pitches in the bullpen.

Carpenter is 6-8, with a 5.67 ERA in 16 games for Reading.

Tracy, 34, was back in the big leagues for the first time since 2004 when he was called up from Triple A Lehigh Valley over the weekend to replace the injured Geoff Jenkins. Tracy was batting .288 with 21 home runs and 84 RBI at Lehigh Valley.


Drew Carpenter was a guy who was very promising last year, but's fizzled a little this year after being promoted from A to AA.

I would have thought Benson would get the call, but this sounds like a one and done. They'll keep Benson on his regular schedule in case they need a sixth starter.

Tracy's going nowhere. No one will touch him. He'll be back at Lehigh, and back up on Sept. 1st.

[K.C.]

Let's see....who's it going to be tonight....hmmmm....

http://popcultured.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/ryan-howard2.jpg



Great at-bat, too. Really made him work.

[K.C.]

J-Dubs!

[KingGeno]

J-Dubs and Howard have gone yard so far. Who's next??

[K.C.]

J-Dubs and Howard have gone yard so far. Who's next??

Can't wait for the first "ohhhhhhhh...that's a little league bandbox softball field ballpark' comments.

[hammersavage]

that's a little league bandbox softball field ballpark

[KingGeno]

Reyes sure is mucking around too much with running the bases tonight.

[K.C.]

Reyes sure is mucking around too much with running the bases tonight.

Ehhhh...he was stealing, and Vic tracked down a tough ball. Can't fault Reyes on that double play.


But he probably should have ran earlier in the count. It's not like Kendrick has a great move or is particularly quick to the plate. Reyes should run on him all day.

[KingGeno]

Word. I caught the play earlier in the game, and the tail end of that pop-fly.

[K.C.]

If the Mets were to lose tonight, this would really be the tougher loss in a lot of respects.

Once you get past the fact of how they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory last night, this is why they brought Santana in...to play stopper, and turn momentum around when the team starts sliding a bit.

That loss last night was bad for them, but the silver lining that separates this year from last year is that they could point to tonight's game and say, 'hey, we've got Santana.'

It would have to be somewhat demoralizing to drop this one.

[Kevin]

Do the Phillies get to hit in philly and the Mets in candlestick during these games? They hit in the same park. Mets can hit hrs too. And SNY just had a stat where Philly has the 3rd lowest staff era in the leauge. So really no excuse.

[K.C.]

Do the Phillies get to hit in philly and the Mets in candlestick during these games? They hit in the same park. Mets can hit hrs too. And SNY just had a stat where Philly has the 3rd lowest staff era in the leauge. So really no excuse.

Agreed.

But it's an old failsafe of the Mets players and fans.

It couldn't just be that they got outplayed...it's certainly NOT that the other team has more talent...nope...apparently, it's retractable fences.

They move in to 280 down the lines when the Phils are up and then get pushed back to 350 for the vistors.

[K.C.]

I'm calling bullshit on that Delgado home run.

It was OBVIOUSLY a Citizens Bank Park special!


It's only 240 to the upper deck!

[KingGeno]

Guess the Mets fans don't take that Delgado homerun seriously. Ya know...with our pussy baseball park.

Those maple bats have GOT TO GO.

[K.C.]

Nice job by Eyre.

Gillick seems to be good for a solid last minute addition each season.

Got Moyer in '06 after the deadline...Iguchi last season...and Eyre looks like he's doing the job so far.



Very risky move going to Seanez for the 8th, but I guess Charlie's trying to preserve his big guns for the Cubs series.

[K.C.]

Phillies 3, Delgado 3

[KingGeno]

Got ourselves a new game.

[hammersavage]

Bandbox

[K.C.]

Very risky move going to Seanez for the 8th, but I guess Charlie's trying to preserve his big guns for the Cubs series.

Well, there in may be the deciding factor of this game.

Charlie got greedy.

Romero only threw one inning yesterday. They could have used him for Delgado and/or Beltran this inning.

[KingGeno]

Glad I have a lot of the Mets "children" on this board blocked, so I can't see their posts. It's like they don't exist. I don't debate with children.

You are right, K.C. Charlie got greedy tonight with Seanez. Burrell left how many runners stranded tonight? Grrr.

Glad we took last nights game though.

Bring on them Cubs.

[Friday]

Glad I have a lot of the Mets "children" on this board blocked, so I can't see their posts. It's like they don't exist. I don't debate with children.

You are right, K.C. Charlie got greedy tonight with Seanez. Burrell left how many runners stranded tonight? Grrr.

Glad we took last nights game though.

Bring on them Cubs.

you don't have me blocked do you? :down:

[K.C.]

Glad I have a lot of the Mets "children" on this board blocked, so I can't see their posts. It's like they don't exist. I don't debate with children.

You are right, K.C. Charlie got greedy tonight with Seanez. Burrell left how many runners stranded tonight? Grrr.

Glad we took last nights game though.

Bring on them Cubs.


Burrell's been struggling for a while, actually.

It'd have been nice to take this one, because it'd be a pretty devastating loss for the Mets as I said earlier, but I figured split all along, so I can't complain.

Split in Chicago would work for me. Come back and take two of three at Shea.

[scottinnj]

Well, there in may be the deciding factor of this game.

Charlie got greedy.

Romero only threw one inning yesterday. They could have used him for Delgado and/or Beltran this inning.

Agreed. I was wondering why he went with Rudy. Then he put Lidge in too early.

What can you do? I'm happy we split the series, I wished we had gotten both games, but having the Mets leave Philly only 1/2 game ahead is a sign of good times ahead. Especially now that J-Roll is hitting the ball again. When he's getting silenced at the plate, the Phillies lose.

Also some great defense tonight too. We're catching our second breath, and I'm comfortable with how we're playing right now going into September.

[hammersavage]

Nobody blocks friday!!!

[TheMojoPin]

Looking forward to your boys coming to town for the next 4 games. Outsied of being pumped that our 4 best staters are going and our team is scoring a ton of runs, I just enjoy when another good team comes to town. I'll always get a kid-like thrill of seeing that...like a comic book crossover in my own backyard.

[K.C.]

Nobody blocks friday!!!

Apparently someone did. But I enjoy her wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Looking forward to your boys coming to town for the next 4 games. Outsied of being pumped that our 4 best staters are going and our team is scoring a ton of runs, I just enjoy when another good team comes to town. I'll always get a kid-like thrill of seeing that...like a comic book crossover in my own backyard.

Cubs/Phillies is usually a good interdivisional series, because there used to be a solid rivalry there when the NL was just East and West, and the two were lumped together.

It helps that both teams are good.

We need these wins more than you do, though.

[spadanko]

you know some old school people would consider Victornio not turning around on that grand slam showing up his pitcher.


by the way I am not talking shit, just mentioning this because of all the Reyes bashing. shit happens with all teams

[spadanko]

you know some old school people would consider Victornio not turning around on that grand slam showing up his pitcher.


by the way I am not talking shit, just mentioning this because of all the Reyes bashing. shit happens with all teams


ya know what, I apologize. i just saw the replay again, and he did turn and look. my bad

[KingGeno]

you know some old school people would consider Victornio not turning around on that grand slam showing up his pitcher.

I actually somewhat agree. Again, he is a young player but what if that ball got knocked down by a huge gust of wind? He should at least have went to the wall or attempted to move back to the warning track. It's not like that was a walk-off in the bottom of the ninth.

[spadanko]

Phils get matt Stairs

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8501292/Sources:-Phils-get-Stairs-from-Blue-Jays

[KingGeno]

They need it. I can't remember the last time I have seen a bench this bad before. Bruntlett, Jenkins, Taguchi....all worthless.

[K.C.]

Next week:

PHI: 3 @ WSH, 3 @ NYM
NYM: 3 @ MIL, 3 vs. PHI

We'll have to see how the weekend shakes out and whether or not the Phillies can split and get a little help from Florida.

The one thing that kind of sucks is that the Mets get Santana vs. Sheets on Monday, and miss Sabathia completely. Santana also will come back and pitch next Sunday at Shea vs. the Phils.

It's perfectly within the realm of possibility that it's all tied up again heading into the weekend series with the Mets.

[K.C.]

What...the fuck....was Romero doing???

I know he was fired up for striking out the side...but, christ...

[K.C.]

Phillies release righty Benson
08/30/2008 4:55 PM ET
By Ken Mandel / MLB.com

CHICAGO -- Kris Benson's attempt to return to the Major Leagues with Philadelphia ended Saturday, when the Phillies released the right-hander from Triple-A Lehigh Valley.

Benson, who signed a Minor League deal with Philadelphia in Spring Training, had hoped to pitch in the big leagues by May, but suffered a series of setbacks, notably biceps tendinitis and groin injuries.

He went a combined 1-6 with a 5.78 ERA with Class A Clearwater and Lehigh Valley, starting 13 games. He cost the Phillies $375,000, or $75,000 a month, while pitching in the Minors.

Phillies general manager Pat Gillick wasn't immediately available to comment.

This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


Hm. Interesting.

Benson had six pretty good starts in his last eight at Lehigh Valley. He got shelled last time out, but clubs usually don't release starters of his experience on a whim like that.

Looking a little bit deeper, though, my guess is that the Phillies have Carrasco and Happ pegged as better starting options if a starter goes down in September.

So the likelihood of Benson starting for them this season was pretty remote.

Furthermore, he wouldn't see action out of their bullpen, either.

So my guess is they kind of did him a favor. He's been a pretty good sport about rehabbing, and staying quiet and doing what the Phillies asked him to do, so they probably just told him they weren't going to use him, and are giving him a chance to catch on somewhere else and maybe make a couple starts somewhere else before the end of the season.

It's pretty unlikely any of the contenders would take a gamble on him in any meaningful role from here on out.

[Friday]

Apparently someone did. But I enjoy her wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.



i don't think i even did anything block-worthy.
this makes me sad.
someone quote this post so Geno knows how he has hurt me.
i thought we were buddays. :glurps:

[K.C.]

i don't think i even did anything block-worthy.
this makes me sad.
someone quote this post so Geno knows how he has hurt me.
i thought we were buddays. :glurps:

Geno says that all Mets fans look alike to him. But I'll try...


Geno, Friday wants to know if you've blocked her and why (outside of the whole liking the Mets thing).





P.S: One game back!!

[spadanko]

What...the fuck....was Romero doing???

I know he was fired up for striking out the side...but, christ...

ok, glad you felt this way.. he went nuts

[cougarjake13]

Hm. Interesting.

Benson had six pretty good starts in his last eight at Lehigh Valley. He got shelled last time out, but clubs usually don't release starters of his experience on a whim like that.

Looking a little bit deeper, though, my guess is that the Phillies have Carrasco and Happ pegged as better starting options if a starter goes down in September.

So the likelihood of Benson starting for them this season was pretty remote.

Furthermore, he wouldn't see action out of their bullpen, either.

So my guess is they kind of did him a favor. He's been a pretty good sport about rehabbing, and staying quiet and doing what the Phillies asked him to do, so they probably just told him they weren't going to use him, and are giving him a chance to catch on somewhere else and maybe make a couple starts somewhere else before the end of the season.

It's pretty unlikely any of the contenders would take a gamble on him in any meaningful role from here on out.


yeh i dont see the mets going down that road again even with the need of pitching help

[K.C.]

Phillies' September

3 @ WSH
3 @ NYM
3 vs. FLA
4 vs. MIL
3 @ ATL
3 @ FLA
3 vs ATL
3 vs. WSH

Mets' September

3 @ MIL
3 vs. PHI
2 vs. WSH
3 vs. ATL
4 @ WSH
3 @ ATL
4 vs. CHC
3 vs. FLA


Differences:
-Both play WSH six times, but the Mets play four on the road in DC, the Phils play three.
-Phillies have three @ Florida
-Mets have four vs. the Cubs, but at home.
-Mets play three @ MIL...the Phils play four, but at home.


I'd say a slight schedule advantage for the Phils, but the Mets enter with the one game lead.

[BoondockSaint]

Would you Phillies just go the away. I'm getting an ulcer over here.

[cougarjake13]

Phillies' September

3 @ WSH
3 @ NYM
3 vs. FLA
4 vs. MIL
3 @ ATL
3 @ FLA
3 vs ATL
3 vs. WSH

Mets' September

3 @ MIL
3 vs. PHI
2 vs. WSH
3 vs. ATL
4 @ WSH
3 @ ATL
4 vs. CHC
3 vs. FLA


Differences:
-Both play WSH six times, but the Mets play four on the road in DC, the Phils play three.
-Phillies have three @ Florida
-Mets have four vs. the Cubs, but at home.
-Mets play three @ MIL...the Phils play four, but at home.


I'd say a slight schedule advantage for the Phils, but the Mets enter with the one game lead.



it comes down to these 2 series

mets vs phils and whoever does better there to either extend the lead or take over the lead

and the last series of the season, mets vs fish and phils vs nats

[K.C.]

Would you Phillies just go the away. I'm getting an ulcer over here.

Oh, come on...

You knew this would go all the way down to the last game of the season again.

And either way, in the end, both teams are playing for the right to be slaughtered by Milwaukee or Chicago.

[K.C.]

I will say that Phils/Mets has easily had the most juice of any rivalry in baseball this year. If you look at some of the other good ones:

-Dodgers/Giants has suffered because both suck.
-Cubs/Cardinals has still been solid, but it's been pretty obvious that the Cubbies were much better this season.
-Yanks/Red Sox hasn't had the juice it used to because of the Rays.

Cubs/Brewers has emerged as a pretty good one, but Phils/Mets has been the main event this season.

[cougarjake13]

I will say that Phils/Mets has easily had the most juice of any rivalry in baseball this year. If you look at some of the other good ones:

-Dodgers/Giants has suffered because both suck.
-Cubs/Cardinals has still been solid, but it's been pretty obvious that the Cubbies were much better this season.
-Yanks/Red Sox hasn't had the juice it used to because of the Rays.

Cubs/Brewers has emerged as a pretty good one, but Phils/Mets has been the main event this season.



agreed but the sawx-yanks hasnt been as big as it has in the past b/c the yanks have just sucked almost all year, well at least in yankee terms they have sucked

[cougarjake13]

phils-mets has the ability to be as big and good as the sawx-yanks


its just been that until recently both teams havent been good at the same time

[K.C.]

Good job for Hamels tonight.

They better bring him back Sunday to face Santana.

[KingGeno]

Yea, he looked great. Hope them philly bats start heating up though. Hate these late season losses against garbage teams.

And NO I do not think all Mets fans are the same. Only the babies.

[spadanko]

DIdn't see the collision? what exactly happened?

[K.C.]

I would say, for momentum's sake, that the Phillies need to take 2 of 3 this weekend, or they're in deep trouble.

I like the matchups.

Myers/Pelfrey
Moyer/Martinez
Hamels/Santana

They should all be pretty close, competitive games.

But it's getting close to where they need to make a move, or they're just not going to.


That loss on Wednesday to the Nationals was horrific.

[hammersavage]

I think those pitching matchups couldn't be more even considering the teams. It's gonna be fun/ulcer inducing.

[KingGeno]

It's gonna be fun/ulcer inducing.

True dat. Should be a great series. Wonder if Ultra Mega Delgadozord will be slaying us...... hmm.

[K.C.]

I think those pitching matchups couldn't be more even considering the teams. It's gonna be fun/ulcer inducing.

Yeah, I'm keeping a well stocked liquor cabinet tonight.

I'm sure I'll need it.

[hammersavage]

We share that, we'll all be drinking to drown the pain or drinking to the joy of it.

[cougarjake13]

im on jack and coke #3 already and the game is 3 hrs away

[K.C.]

Infielder Iguchi rejoins Phillies
09/05/2008 4:17 PM ET
By Ken Mandel / MLB.com

NEW YORK -- Tadahito Iguchi, who filled in admirably last season while Chase Utley recovered from a broken hand, has returned to the Phillies.
He's expected to join the Phillies before Saturday's game against the Mets, though he's ineligible to appear in the postseason.

Iguchi appeared in 77 games at San Diego this season, batting .231 with two homers and 24 RBIs. He was released by the Padres to make room for top prospect Matt Antonelli.

The right-handed batter was first acquired by the Phillies on July 27, 2007, for Minor League pitcher Michael Dubee. He batted .301 in 27 games as a starter, and .304 overall.

The Phillies pursued Iguchi this winter, offering him the chance to play third base, but he signed to San Diego for two reasons: to be closer to Japan, and to play second base.

The Los Angeles Times, citing Iguchi's agent, Rocky Hall, reported on Friday that the Dodgers and Phillies had inquired about Iguchi. He'll be used as a pinch-hitter.

This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

Good move.

[Bossanova]

Good move.

I simply rolled my eyes when this asshole was resigned. Yeah i still remember '06. 30 minutes you fucks. I better not hear you cunts bragging on Sunday at the Eagle game

[K.C.]

I simply rolled my eyes when this asshole was resigned. Yeah i still remember '06. 30 minutes you fucks. I better not hear you cunts bragging on Sunday at the Eagle game

You're not going to coax me into a Towelie/Jinxy McHippo style taunting of the baseball gods by guaranteeing some kind of success in this series.

I respect our divine masters.

:D

[Bossanova]

You're not going to coax me into a Towelie/Jinxy McHippo style taunting of the baseball gods by guaranteeing some kind of success in this series.

I respect our divine masters.

:D

HAHA! I would never dream of that. You are wise to do so being as Jinxy already said the Mets would not get swept. So you already have that going for you

[K.C.]

It's go time, motherfuckers

[K.C.]

Lights Out! (almost)

http://media.philly.com/images/20080507_inq_lidge07z-a.JPG




That's one.

[BoondockSaint]

Have to give it to Meyers. He was great.

[K.C.]

We may yet get a game today.

Looks like the storm is wrapping around New York for the time being. Could shift over the next couple hours, though.




Nevermind, already postponed

[scottinnj]

We may yet get a game today.

Looks like the storm is wrapping around New York for the time being. Could shift over the next couple hours, though.




Nevermind, already postponed

Everything is postponed. NASCAR, Phillies/Mets and we're just waiting for the coach to call the house about the season opener here in Northfield for city football.

[K.C.]

Come on Jamie...show us something today.

[K.C.]

Love that Charlie sat Burrell for Stairs, Feliz for Dobbs, and Coste for Ruiz.


Stairs, Dobbs, and Ruiz have driven in five of the six runs.


That's managing!

[K.C.]

That's TWO.

[K.C.]

Hamels needs to channel the spirit of the Lord:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1973/0409_large.jpg

[K.C.]

Dude....what the fuck....

-Catcher's interference
-Wright's out at third but it's miscalled
-Utley WAY off the bag on a routine play at 2nd base
-A bunch of shitty ground balls just finding empty space.


...well, I guess this is why it's difficult to sweep.

[K.C.]

Well, no doubt that this would have been a nice game to get.

But there's still 19 to make up two...and there's still four against the Brewers who aren't exactly lighting the world on fire.

It was almost a must that they needed two of three, and they got that.


The way the Mets are playing, I don't see them really stringing together a four or five game losing streak at some point.

So really the Phils are going to have to probably just get hotter than a hot team down the stretch.


The Brewers, I could see tanking. But a lot of that will depend on what the Phillies do with them later this week.

[K.C.]

14-5 over the next 19.

Phils do that, they'll be in the playoffs, be it division, or wild card.

[cougarjake13]

14-5 over the next 19.

Phils do that, they'll be in the playoffs, be it division, or wild card.


i kinda hope you do get the wild card if the mets hold on to the divison

then the mets will play the dogders if they hopefully keep their division

although the cubs dont look as tough as they did earlier



i'd love to see a mets-phillies nlcs

[K.C.]

i kinda hope you do get the wild card if the mets hold on to the divison

then the mets will play the dogders if they hopefully keep their division

although the cubs dont look as tough as they did earlier



i'd love to see a mets-phillies nlcs


We'll see. I'm not really sure how to gauge the chances of division vs. wild card at this point.

Obviously, the math favors the division as the best shot, but the Mets are playing a lot better ball than the Brewers right now, and they have an easier schedule (and it's looking very much like those Cubs games the last week may mean nothing for Chicago), and the Phillies still have four head to head games against the Brewers.

I tend to think it would be pretty difficult for the Mets to play .500 or below ball over the next 19 considering the schedule, but at the same...who knows with that bullpen.

It's held up the last week or so, but we'll see.


The most important thing for the Phillies right now is to not get caught asleep at the wheel against Florida, coming off that big series in NY.

They soundly beat Florida in this series...I think it does a lot for the team's confidence.

[cougarjake13]

We'll see. I'm not really sure how to gauge the chances of division vs. wild card at this point.

Obviously, the math favors the division as the best shot, but the Mets are playing a lot better ball than the Brewers right now, and they have an easier schedule (and it's looking very much like those Cubs games the last week may mean nothing for Chicago), and the Phillies still have four head to head games against the Brewers.

I tend to think it would be pretty difficult for the Mets to play .500 or below ball over the next 19 considering the schedule, but at the same...who knows with that bullpen.

It's held up the last week or so, but we'll see.


The most important thing for the Phillies right now is to not get caught asleep at the wheel against Florida, coming off that big series in NY.

They soundly beat Florida in this series...I think it does a lot for the team's confidence.



well like you said the series against the brew crew goes a long way

a sweep will either tie or take the lead with the crew depending on how the crew does against the reds and phills against fla

plus those 7 games that milw has against the cubs could go a long way to determing whether they take the division or fall out of the playoffs completely

[K.C.]

Phils win
Brewers lose
Mets idle.

1.5 back of the Division.
3 back of the Wild Card.

[hammersavage]

dude, the wild card is falling back to both of us. amazing...

[cougarjake13]

dude, the wild card is falling back to both of us. amazing...

and the once mighty cubs arent so mighty no more

[K.C.]

Well with that horrible loss last night, the Phillies officially now have a better shot at the Wild Card than the division because of the head to head games with Milwaukee.

They BETTER win today, though.


Like I said...they need to go 14-5 down the stretch and they're a lock to get in.

So far...1-1.

That's no good.

[Bossanova]

Well with that horrible loss last night, the Phillies officially now have a better shot at the Wild Card than the division because of the head to head games with Milwaukee.

They BETTER win today, though.


Like I said...they need to go 14-5 down the stretch and they're a lock to get in.

So far...1-1.

That's no good.

8 runs on the Marlins and they lose. So sad

[PD]

Well with that horrible loss last night, the Phillies officially now have a better shot at the Wild Card than the division because of the head to head games with Milwaukee. .
as much as I'd LOVE to agree here, It's still too early for that. Mets playing about 1 net game below last year, but Phils ahead of last year.

[Bossanova]

:clap::lol::clap::lol::clap::lol:I wasn't sure if K.C knew the score, because I hadn't seen it posted. 7-3 Marlins today. I thinks that makes you trashy people 3 games back. :lol::clap::lol::clap::lol::clap:

[spadanko]

shhhhh

[K.C.]

:clap::lol::clap::lol::clap::lol:I wasn't sure if K.C knew the score, because I hadn't seen it posted. 7-3 Marlins today. I thinks that makes you trashy people 3 games back. :lol::clap::lol::clap::lol::clap:

Are you taking over for Jinxy McHippo?

Better watch your game tonight...

[Bossanova]

Are you taking over for Jinxy McHippo?

Better watch your game tonight...

Oh, I dont speak of my team. I just relish in the losses of others. And don't you ever compare me to that fuck sir. I do know where Deleware is

[Bossanova]

Are you taking over for Jinxy McHippo?

Better watch your game tonight...

Are you watching my game tonight?

[cougarjake13]

Are you watching my game tonight?

ssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[K.C.]

Are you watching my game tonight?

Yeah...are YOU watching your game tonight?

[K.C.]

Oh, I dont speak of my team. I just relish in the losses of others. And don't you ever compare me to that fuck sir. I do know where Deleware is

Yet you can't spell it.

(Oh, that's right...i SO went there!...criticizing spelling on a message board!...I feel like a big man, now. :clap:)

[spadanko]

argh

[K.C.]

Phils really have to win these next three.

Two of three is the absolute bare essential to stay alive, but realistically, they need all three.

Hamels vs. Parra tomorrow should favor the Phils.

Blanton vs. Dave Bush on Saturday is a push.

I'm very curious, if they win these next two, if they decide to bring Myers back on short rest on Sunday....and conversely, if the Brewers drop the next two, do they bring Sabathia on short rest?

I think the Phillies would go to Myers. Otherwise, it'd be Happ on Sunday. Kendrick won't start again this season.

[hammersavage]

http://joe.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-5222381dt.jpg

Hope some lucky African gets to wear these instead of the same old '19-0' shirt they've had to wear since February.

[K.C.]

So...this is great.

The Phils and Brewers will play a day-night double header on Sunday, only the nightcap won't be televised anywhere because of the restrictions with ESPN Sunday Night Baseball.

This has the potential to be the biggest game of the season for BOTH teams, and niltch...nothing...nada!


Fuck you Major League Baseball, and you rug-wearing corpse, Bud Selig.

[epo]

So...this is great.

The Phils and Brewers will play a day-night double header on Sunday, only the nightcap won't be televised anywhere because of the restrictions with ESPN Sunday Night Baseball.

This has the potential to be the biggest game of the season for BOTH teams, and niltch...nothing...nada!

Fuck you Major League Baseball, and you rug-wearing corpse, Bud Selig.

As a ticket-holder of the Milwaukee Brewers...I am officially pissed about that second game on Sunday.

[cougarjake13]

So...this is great.

The Phils and Brewers will play a day-night double header on Sunday, only the nightcap won't be televised anywhere because of the restrictions with ESPN Sunday Night Baseball.

This has the potential to be the biggest game of the season for BOTH teams, and niltch...nothing...nada!


Fuck you Major League Baseball, and you rug-wearing corpse, Bud Selig.



not even in the home markets only ???


thats fucking bullocks

[K.C.]

As a ticket-holder of the Milwaukee Brewers...I am officially pissed about that second game on Sunday.

It's actually your team's fault, Epo.

They refused to play Monday on the day off.

[epo]

It's actually your team's fault, Epo.

They refused to play Monday on the day off.

They wouldn't have to play on Monday if you had a retractable roof! Cheap Bastards!

[Towelie]

So the game won't even be televised in Philly or Milwaukee?

Thats ridiculous.

Thank god black out rules go bye bye next year

[K.C.]

Very nice first inning!

[PD]

I blame Snoogans.

[cougarjake13]

I blame Snoogans.

god damn dodger lovin faggott :devil2::drunk:

[K.C.]

That's how we do it, MVP!

http://www.bengarvey.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/t1_jimmy_rollins.jpg

[cougarjake13]

like i said it is too early to count out the phighting phils

[K.C.]

Two out of the NL East (three in the L column)
Two out in the Wild Card


Horrible loss by the Mets today, but they have a nightcap tonight. If they win that, they're probably fine for now.

But honestly, I'll worry about them and assess where everyone is after this series.


The Phillies have their best opportunity in front of them. They sweep the doubleheader tomorrow, they control their own fate.

At the very least, they need to split, but by the same token, the Brewers are on the ropes...if you knock them out tomorrow, they may stay in freefall. Let them off the ropes and let them walk out with a two game lead, and that may be the scare that team needed to play strong down the stretch.

Big day tomorrow.

[KingGeno]

I feel that both teams are inconsistent, but both will get in via first place and wild card. Would be amazing if the Mets met the Phils in the playoffs. That's like crazy edge of the seat nail-biting baseball. Would be great.

[K.C.]

We need a little extra power for tomorrow's double-header.

If it's good enough for the Chichester Fightin' Eagles, it's good enough for the Phils.


Chichester 20, Sun Valley 15.

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That, and I'm sacrificing a live chicken to Jobu. :drunk:
http://beerandabrat.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/jobu2.jpg

[K.C.]

Blanton vs. Bush
Myers vs. Suppan

Phils are most vulnerable in this first game, especially if they get down early.

[K.C.]

Phils are most vulnerable in this first game, especially if they get down early.

Fucking Blanton might as well have softball tossed that ball to Durham.

It hung for like 10 seconds in mid-air.

[epo]

Fucking Blanton might as well have softball tossed that ball to Durham.

It hung for like 10 seconds in mid-air.

Big homer by Cameron.

[K.C.]

Big homer by Cameron.

I think the Phillies can tag Bush for two or three in an inning before he's out of the games, but they need to keep it close.

Big double play, there.

[K.C.]

http://blog.nj.com/timesupdates/2007/10/large_victorino

[KingGeno]

Guess he shoulda went with Gagne. :smoke: Great game so far.

[K.C.]

Guess he shoulda went with Gagne. :smoke: Great game so far.

The look on Ned Yost's face was basically one of 'hmmm...I'm going to lose my job...'

[KingGeno]

Don't like this Lidge move.

[K.C.]

Don't like this Lidge move.

Yeah, I don't understand why you don't keep him fresh for tonight.

I'd have stuck with Eyre.

[K.C.]

Phils need to be very business-like tonight. Score early, manufacture a few runs, and let Myers front-run.

The Brewers have to be on edge, if they weren't before.

If they can get up early, it'll gut them.

[DiabloSammich]

Hey, K.C., since the Mets just lost to Atlanta, where does that put us in the division?

[K.C.]

Hey, K.C., since the Mets just lost to Atlanta, where does that put us in the division?

1.5 out (2 in the loss column)

A win tonight puts them one out, but the Mets still have two extra games on the schedule.

But save the division talk for Monday. The best opportunity is in front of us, tonight.

[K.C.]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h9/ibethune/burrell.gif



Take that, Suppan!

[scottinnj]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h9/ibethune/burrell.gif



Take that, Suppan!

Best Internetz pic EVAH!

[K.C.]

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[KingGeno]

Myers looks superb tonight, and the Phils are clicking like they were earlier in the season. I'm sure they will enjoy that day off tomorrow, and saves me some time to put my fan efforts behind them Birds tomorrow night.

[K.C.]

http://www.hoernersburg.net/images/TourBestdpi/Town/Sweeping_Laws.JPG


Let's celebrate with a little of The Sound of Philadelphia....with a Japanese twist!

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[K.C.]

Probables for the week:

Monday: Off
Tuesday: Jamie Moyer (14-7) vs. James Parr (1-0)
Wednesday: J.A. Happ (0-0) vs. Jair Jurrjens (13-7)
Thursday: Cole Hamels (13-9) vs. Jo-Jo Reyes (3-10)
Friday: Joe Blanton (7-12) vs. Josh Johnson (5-1)
Saturday: Brett Myers (10-10) vs. Anibal Sanchez (2-4)
Sunday: Jamie Moyer (14-7) vs. TBD


Most difficult game is Wednesday. Hopefully, Happ can hang in.

[cougarjake13]

see

told ya it was too early

[K.C.]

see

told ya it was too early


I'm really surprised they're flirting with this again.

Even I thought the Mets were beyond that this year. But they always seem to prove me wrong.

:thumbup:

[K.C.]

Jayson Werth has been a godsend.

Maybe Gillick's best add in his tenure. And he's made a few good moves.

[DiabloSammich]

Jayson Werth has been a godsend.

Maybe Gillick's best add in his tenure. And he's made a few good moves.



Kid plays like his fucking ass is on fire. Fun to watch.

[K.C.]

Moyer blew up tonight.

[K.C.]

MVP!

http://popcultured.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/ryan-howard2.jpg

[Friday]

i am pretty sure no other people in here would block me... no matter what i say...

so

i say


i hate your stupid baseball team.
dammat.
ROAR.


see? now you know you phillies can take my evil venom. lol.

btw Genobaggahackyphonecalls STINKS! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

:bye: :tongue:

[K.C.]

i am pretty sure no other people in here would block me... no matter what i say...

so

i say


i hate your stupid baseball team.
dammat.
ROAR.


see? now you know you phillies can take my evil venom. lol.

btw Genobaggahackyphonecalls STINKS! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

:bye: :tongue:

NOOOOOOOO!!!....My eyes are melting out of my head from all that EVILNESS!!!

[scottinnj]

Thank God. Mets are down by one and there is NO FUCKING REASON why the Phils should be beaten by Atlanta.

General Sherman didn't go far enough.

[K.C.]

General Sherman didn't go far enough.

Agreed.

Ryan Howard needs to slash and burn that hayseed mecca to the ground.

Finish the job!

[scottinnj]

Now we have a chance to bring it to .5 in our favor. And they still have the Cubs to face.

[scottinnj]

Here comes Lidge. Hopefully another "Lights Out" for us.

I'm never comfy with a one run lead, even if they were playing the local Northfield Cardinals Little League team.

What's your opinion of Happ, K.C.?

[K.C.]

What's your opinion of Happ, K.C.?

Ultimately, he could be a decent #4 or #5, but I think tomorrow is a tough spot for him.

But I'm not sure they have a better option. Kendrick has been horrible, and I'm not sure how you could go back to Eaton in that spot.

Tomorrow's going to be tough, espeically with the Braves throwing Jurrjens. That's why finishing off this game tonight is so important.

The one plus is that I don't think the Braves have a lot of right-handed power, so that may help Happ tomorrow.

[scottinnj]

Kyle has been a huge disappointment since the playoffs last year. I don't think he was ready at all, and my boss said he got lucky last season because no one had batted against him, but now that they have, it's like batting practice.

I hope this guy does good. Blanton seems to be alright as well, but on that we got the worst of the Oakland fire sale of their bullpen.

[scottinnj]

Bases loaded. FUCK!

[scottinnj]

Three sliders? THROW THE HEAT BRAD!!!


Edit: STRIKEOUT! We're in First place!

[K.C.]

Jesus Christ, that was fucking excruciating, but they got the W.

[scottinnj]

Jesus Christ, that was fucking excruciating, but they got the W.

.5


First place (again) Phillies Fans!

[KingGeno]

Oh. Phillies won.

[Bossanova]

What did I fucking tell you K.C. i would not say the division was the Mets.

[K.C.]

What did I fucking tell you K.C. i would not say the division was the Mets.

Hippos must have thought it, then, and that explains this recent turn of events. You may have to lobotomize him to save the season.



I, for one, am pissed....I finally say that the Mets are beyond this, and they go out and make me look RIDICULOUS!




...tee hee

[Bossanova]

Hippos must have thought it, then, and that explains this recent turn of events. You may have to lobotomize him to save the season.



I, for one, am pissed....I finally say that the Mets are beyond this, and they go out and make me look RIDICULOUS!




...tee hee

Hippo is going to die, and the Mets make everyone look ridiculous so don't fret

[hammersavage]

I'm not giving up, but I'm tapping out til September 28th at 10pm. My health can't take it. I'll be watching a lot of porn.

[KingGeno]

Pretty happy how this game is going. :thumbup:

Mets 9 - Nats 5. Pretty crazy game over there.

[K.C.]

Pretty happy how this game is going. :thumbup:

Mets 9 - Nats 5. Pretty crazy game over there.

Heilman just made it a lot more interesting.

Two on, nobody out in the 8th for the Nats.


I've been flipping over to MASN to watch it.

Schoeneweis in, now.

[KingGeno]

Happ looked nice tonight. I feel better with Kendrick in the bullpen. Guy needs to readjust himself befo' he wrecks himself.

[cougarjake13]

Heilman just made it a lot more interesting.

Two on, nobody out in the 8th for the Nats.


I've been flipping over to MASN to watch it.

Schoeneweis in, now.



saw the score at 7-2 and i knew the mutts would bullpen would blow it, well at least they tried to

[K.C.]

LIGHTS OUT!

http://kylie.mlblogs.com/brad%20lidge.png



This year has been inifinitely less stressful knowing that the Phillies win every game they lead after the 8th.

[scottinnj]

LIGHTS OUT!

http://kylie.mlblogs.com/brad%20lidge.png



This year has been inifinitely less stressful knowing that the Phillies win every game they lead after the 8th.

No doubt about that. We need to keep this up, stay close to the Mets, and let them commit suicide against the Cubs and hand the NL East to us.

[K.C.]

No doubt about that. We need to keep this up, stay close to the Mets, and let them commit suicide against the Cubs and hand the NL East to us.

I think they'll stumble regardless, be it Atlanta, Chicago, or Florida that does it to them.

The problem, is whether of not, Epo's Brewers are already dead.

[Bossanova]

I think they'll stumble regardless, be it Atlanta, Chicago, or Florida that does it to them.

The problem, is whether of not, Epo's Brewers are already dead.

I dont sweat the Cubs. The will be resting guys. Fuck the Marlins, not two years in a row. The Braves are the team that scare me rigt now. Fuck Milwaukee

[KingGeno]

Yes it should. Perhaps the Phils won' tank it to the Marlins and Astros like they normally do late in the season.

This was from July 13th. I have been saying this for the last few years. The Phillies normally tank it to the Marlins or Astros late in the season. These are the kinda games that piss me off, but I guess everyone's team has a few games like tonight's. Garbage all around.

[Bossanova]

The Met game is not over, and there will not be gloating. Just a simpe thank you for losing tonight.

[K.C.]

I was kind of nervous about tonight's game, because Johnson had been pitching well for the fish, but Myers got destroyed.

Oh well.

Phils should win tomorrow.

Sunday's a toss up with Moyer vs. Volstad.

[Bossanova]

I was kind of nervous about tonight's game, because Johnson had been pitching well for the fish, but Myers got destroyed.

Oh well.

Phils should win tomorrow.

Sunday's a toss up with Moyer vs. Volstad.

They really aren't going to make this easy huh?

[Friday]

Oh well.

Phils should win tomorrow.



i hope they lose tomorrow.
nothing personal.

i also think i should work every night the mets have a game.
it worked tonight....
hmm....

[K.C.]

They really aren't going to make this easy huh?

No


i hope they lose tomorrow.
nothing personal.

i also think i should work every night the mets have a game.
it worked tonight....
hmm....


No, no, no!!!

Take off tomorrow...sleep in....take it easy.

You work hard enough.

[TheMojoPin]

WIN, YOU STUPID DIPSHITS.

Jesus Christ, I know it's contrary to everything that makes up this team, but just win the goddamn division.

[K.C.]

WIN, YOU STUPID DIPSHITS.

Jesus Christ, I know it's contrary to everything that makes up this team, but just win the goddamn division.


Why are you interested in the Phillies winning the division?

[KingGeno]

Why are you interested in the Phillies winning the division?

He's worried about who his team will lose to.

[K.C.]

He's worried about who his team will lose to.

Ah, got it...

Well, if he thinks the Dodgers are going to do his dirty work, he's mistaken. They're out in the first round.

Cubbies will have to face the Philly juggernaut either sooner or later.

[KingGeno]

http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/phi/images/fan_forum/wallpaper/howard_1024x768.jpg
This man lets his pants tuck under his cleats. He is dangerous and on the edge.

[PD]

Why are you interested in the Phillies winning the division?

I think Mojo has indicated he hates the Mets more than the Phils.

Something to do with a black cat in 1969, and getting Sandberg from the Phillies...

[scottinnj]

Mets Lose!


Phils Win!


FIRST PLACE!!!!

[K.C.]

Both teams are likely going in, now. That was really a crippling loss for the Brewers today.

Milwaukee's three back in the loss column with seven to play for the Phils, and eight for the Mets.

The math is starting to get difficult. Simply put, if the Phils go 3-4, the Brewers have to go 6-1.



It's now a question of division vs. wild card.

You want to win the division, and for more than just bragging rights. LA's the easier opponent in the first round.

Who ever faces the Cubbies could be looking at Harden and Zambrano, twice each in a five game series.

That's absolutely brutal.

[scottinnj]

That's exactly why I want the Cubs to woop-ass on the Mets. I'd much rather see us playing the Dodgers, and move onto the pennant series. I'm assuming if that is the scenario, the Cubs will put down the Mets like a pack of dogs infected with Parvo.

But what is interesting is the big change in the Rockies from last year. The Rockies are now eliminated from any wildcard hopes, and this is basically the same team that could not lose last September. This year's September has them 7 wins and 10 losses, verses last year this time with 11 wins and 7 losses, then going 10 wins, 1 loss to finish September. What a turnaround for the defending NL champions.

[K.C.]

That's exactly why I want the Cubs to woop-ass on the Mets. I'd much rather see us playing the Dodgers, and move onto the pennant series. I'm assuming if that is the scenario, the Cubs will put down the Mets like a pack of dogs infected with Parvo.

But what is interesting is the big change in the Rockies from last year. The Rockies are now eliminated from any wildcard hopes, and this is basically the same team that could not lose last September. This year's September has them 7 wins and 10 losses, verses last year this time with 11 wins and 7 losses, then going 10 wins, 1 loss to finish September. What a turnaround for the defending NL champions.

They were hurt a lot of the year.

Tulowitzki missed a month, Holliday missed some time, Helton was out for a couple months, Francis missed a month or so.

And then the other part of their problems was that the pitchers that helped them big time during their run last season, Ubaldo Jimenez, Franklin Morales (who I'm not even sure made it back to the Majors this season), and Manny Corpas all fell off the map.

Jimenez has slowly turned the corner recently.


But basically, they were a lightning in a bottle team.

[TheMojoPin]

Who ever faces the Cubbies could be looking at Harden and Zambrano, twice each in a five game series.

That's absolutely brutal.

Don't forget Dempster. He's been amazing this year, and has had to keep it up against the better teams and hasn't slacked at all. Hell, even Lilly has been back to his 2007 form in the last 2-3 months.

That said, the Phillies scare me more than any team the Cubs could face in the post-season, in the NL or AL. In a short series, anything can happen, and the Phillies are just stacked with power. The Cubs have a tough lineup up and down that's more consistent than the Phillies', but the Phillies have many more power threats that can "switch on" and kill you in a short series.

[KingGeno]

Phillies & Cubs series would be galactic excitement and tension, with our histories and all.

[K.C.]

Don't forget Dempster. He's been amazing this year, and has had to keep it up against the better teams and hasn't slacked at all. Hell, even Lilly has been back to his 2007 form in the last 2-3 months.

That said, the Phillies scare me more than any team the Cubs could face in the post-season, in the NL or AL. In a short series, anything can happen, and the Phillies are just stacked with power. The Cubs have a tough lineup up and down that's more consistent than the Phillies', but the Phillies have many more power threats that can "switch on" and kill you in a short series.

That's a fair assessment. Hamels and Myers should at least be able to compete with Zambrano and Harden, even though the latter are probably a little bit better.

Dempster's better than Moyer, but Moyer's crafty enough that if any team, including the Cubs, shows a little anxiety at the plate, he can exploit.

The big glaring advantage for the Cubbies would be Lilly vs. Blanton, which you wouldn't see in a short series.

Bullpens are comparable.


I do wonder, if the Cubs do match up with the Phils in the DS, if they would bump Dempster for Lilly, since the Phils are so left-handed in their offense.


Either way, the Phillies would present more of a problem for the Cubs in the DS than the Mets.

That said, I want the Dodgers. I know the Phillies can beat the Dodgers. I'm not so sure about the Cubs.

I'll take my chances in a seven game set against them.

[scottinnj]

This last out is killing me. I even turned off the Eagles games with 2 minutes left, this is more important

[K.C.]

LIGHTS OUT!

http://blogs.mcall.com/sports/images/2008/05/23/brad_lidge.jpg


1.5

[scottinnj]

PHILS WIN!

METS LOSE!!

1.5!!!!

[scottinnj]

We are in better shape then I figured we would be going into the last week.

I didn't figure the Mets would go 1 out of three against Atlanta. 2 for 3, or a sweep, and we'd be even or maybe a .5 game behind them.

[KingGeno]

I'm gonna be at the game tomorrow and tuesday night. Got a suite box on tuesday.

Done rubbing it in, but the next week of baseball is gonna be pretty nerveracking.

[TheMojoPin]

I do wonder, if the Cubs do match up with the Phils in the DS, if they would bump Dempster for Lilly, since the Phils are so left-handed in their offense.

As much as Lilly righted his ship the last couple of months, he gave up WAY too many long balls over the season to put him against the mashing Phillies unless absolutely necessary.

[K.C.]

Final Week Probable Pitchers

Atlanta Braves (Jair Jurrjens 13-10, 3.72) vs. Philadelphia Phillies (J.A. Happ 1-0, 4.24)
Atlanta Braves (Mike Hampton 2-3, 5.05) vs. Philadelphia Phillies (Cole Hamels 14-9, 3.10)
Atlanta Braves (Jo-Jo Reyes 3-11, 5.74) vs. Philadelphia Phillies (Brett Myers 10-12, 4.46)
Washington Nationals (John Lannan 9-14, 3.86) vs. Philadelphia Phillies (Joe Blanton 8-12, 4.79)
Washington Nationals (Odalis Perez 7-10, 4.26) vs. Philadelphia Phillies (Jamie Moyer 14-7, 3.86)
Washington Nationals (Shairon Martis 0-3, 6.23) vs. Philadelphia Phillies (TBD)



The Phils should get two of three from Atlanta based on the matchups. I'm not sure all three is out of the question, but Atlanta would be seeing Happ for the second time, so my guess is they'd fair better.

I figure Lannan will beat Blanton. Moyer should beat Perez.

The TBD is in regards to whether the Phillies need the game or not. If they need it, Hamels will be moved up. If they don't, Happ will pitch it.

My guess is they clinch on Saturday, and don't need the game Sunday.

[hexy68]

I'm gonna be at the game tomorrow and tuesday night. Got a suite box on tuesday.

Done rubbing it in, but the next week of baseball is gonna be pretty nerveracking.

i'm going on Wed. Geno...hope to bring the R&F luck to the Fightin's!!

[KingGeno]

i'm going on Wed. Geno...hope to bring the R&F luck to the Fightin's!!

Thanks pal. I may skip tonight's game, shitload of close out reports I have to catch up on. Tomorrow is definitely on, yo.

Wish I had a Ron & Fez Phillies-inspired shirt. Maybe Fez dressed up like the Phanatic or something....

[K.C.]

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[DiabloSammich]

Holy shit, K.C., that was a fucking pull.


Now it'll be stuck in my head all day....

Phillieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.

Fever.

[K.C.]

Charlie's going to try and squeeze one more out of Happ.

Not sure about that...they hit him pretty hard last inning.

[K.C.]

Hell of a job by Seanez and Eyre getting out of that inning after the leadoff triple.




Golson may be the fastest man on Earth. I propose a race around the world between him and Bolt.

[K.C.]

And boom goes the dynamite... (I miss that stupid kid)

http://beerleaguer.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/burrell.jpg

[KingGeno]

Fixed that quick, eh? :tongue:

Phils are looking sexylicious tonight. Great hearing the crowd cheer about them Mets being beat 8-4 in the 7th.

[scottinnj]

Phillies! Dada Da Da Da! I'm loving 'em!

[scottinnj]

And boom goes the dynamite... (I miss that stupid kid)

http://beerleaguer.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/burrell.jpg

YEA BABY!!!


And here's the hero of the day over at Shea Stadium:

http://woolis.com/images/2007SpringTR/07SpringTR3-01010Marquis.jpg

A walk up GRAND SLAM homer against Niese in the top of the 4th inning. Nailed the coffin tight for Mets fans.

[scottinnj]

Fixed that quick, eh? :tongue:

Phils are looking sexylicious tonight. Great hearing the crowd cheer about them Mets being beat 8-4 in the 7th.

My brother had tickets for tonights game. Dummies at work had me drive from Mantua to Manahawkin. Thank God for XM.

[scottinnj]

Do we get home-field advantage against the Dodgers?

[epo]

Do we get home-field advantage against the Dodgers?

The first round would depend upon who the wild card is.

If the Mets are the wildcard, you'd play the Dodgers.
If the Brewers are the wildcard, you'd play the Brewers.

[K.C.]

Do we get home-field advantage against the Dodgers?

After tonight we might be playing the Brewers in the DS.

But either way, yes, if the Phillies win the division, they're at home.

[scottinnj]

Final Week Probable Pitchers

Game 2 vs. Braves:
Atlanta Braves (Mike Hampton 2-3, 5.05) vs. Philadelphia Phillies (Cole Hamels 14-9, 3.10)

Nice for game two. This season the Phils are 7-0 against the Braves when Cole is on the mound.

[scottinnj]

I guess I'm looking way too far ahead.

But it's just I haven't felt this way since............

1980. And I'm 12 years old again.

[K.C.]

Game 2 vs. Braves:
Atlanta Braves (Mike Hampton 2-3, 5.05) vs. Philadelphia Phillies (Cole Hamels 14-9, 3.10)

Nice for game two. This season the Phils are 7-0 against the Braves when Cole is on the mound.

That must be a career statistic, because he's only faced them three times this year (although he's 3-0).

And Hampton's been pushed back, so they now face 3-11 Jo-Jo Reyes.

So really, it only keeps getting better.

The best possible thing that could happen is for the Phillies to clinch, at the latest, on Saturday, so they don't have to use Cole again, and he can start the DS.