2009 Season - Defending WS Champion Philadelphia Phillies Thread

[Kris10]

We have had opportunities but we are leaving them on base. :furious:

I hope Shane's shoulder is really ok.

[Bossanova]

Olie looked good though. That was a tough bump for Shane

[Kris10]

Olie looked good though. That was a tough bump for Shane

The ball looked like it kept carrying back to the warning track. Werth looked like he felt pretty bad... Shane got a nice base hit up the middle just then... and now Utley was hit again. Bases loaded and I'm going to scream if we don't take advantage of this with 1 out.

[Bossanova]

What the fuck is in Utleys blood. Who gets hit 3 times

[Kris10]

What the fuck is in Utleys blood. Who gets hit 3 times

Dave Hollins, member him?

LOL Utley hit again!!! RUNNING!

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/MaRkG24/DaveHollins.jpg

[hexy68]

What the fuck is in Utleys blood. Who gets hit 3 times

Chase HBP 3X and we only pluncked Church? payback is a bitch Mets!

[K.C.]

That play with Delgado throwing into Utley is exactly why you run out everything.

...granted, Reyes setting up directly behind Utley, and directly in the baseline was stupid and a major component of the play...but still.


Victorino has been unbelievable in the field today.

[K.C.]

J-Werth! An unsung hero of 2007!


I guess they'll go Durbin-Romero-Gordon to close it out with Charlie not throwing Lidge today.

Don't worry Mets fans, you'll have a good chance at the end.

[Kris10]

I LOVE Werth!!! I've said that before and I'll say it again! He'll be a starter someday....

Hmmm, just looked up hit by pitch records and I didn't see Dave Hollins in the top 1000. Must have been my Phillies imagination. Am I wrong though K.C.? Didn't it seem like he was ALWAYS getting hit at the plate?

[Bossanova]

And this is why I cut my self off from talking shit right before I hit submit. Fucking Mets suck

[K.C.]

I LOVE Werth!!! I've said that before and I'll say it again! He'll be a starter someday....

Hmmm, just looked up hit by pitch records and I didn't see Dave Hollins in the top 1000. Must have been my Phillies imagination. Am I wrong though K.C.? Didn't it seem like he was ALWAYS getting hit at the plate?


Most times he was hit by a pitch was 19 in 1992. It did seem like he was getting hit every other at bat, though.

Maybe that was just a Chris Wheeler fabrication that got lodged in my head. The guy always makes shit up like. For instance "You can't sleep on Woody Williams...he's so tough on right-handers"

The guy had a 6 ERA last year.

[Kris10]

Most times he was hit by a pitch was 19 in 1992. It did seem like he was getting hit every other at bat, though.

Maybe that was just a Chris Wheeler fabrication that got lodged in my head. The guy always makes shit up like. For instance "You can't sleep on Woody Williams...he's so tough on right-handers"

The guy had a 6 ERA last year.

OMG! I was 12 :glurps: and I remember it like it was yesterday

[K.C.]

I'll admit...I was with the 60,000 or so at Shea who thought Easley got all of that one.

[Kris10]

I'm very happy with Utley so far this season.. yes its early.
Ok, I'm concerned about JRol. :ohmy:

[K.C.]

Yeah, Rollins hurt could be bad.

But there's nothing like the Shea faithful turning on their own on Opening Day...literally booing their team off the field after that last inning.

[Kris10]

Ugh godddd! He's in the bullpen.

Jimmy is giving me chills. I really get nervous when the boys, especially starters, are hurt. I hope its a minor sprain.

[Earlshog]

Yeah, Rollins hurt could be bad.

But there's nothing like the Shea faithful turning on their own on Opening Day...literally booing their team off the field after that last inning.

I am listening on the radio. Did what happened to Rollins really look bad? That is scary shit



Almost a scary as the guy on the mound right now...

I always said Flash was the greatest... haha

[K.C.]

http://www.midnightcravings.com/images/Flash_Paint.JPG


That's one!

[Kris10]

I am listening on the radio. Did what happened to Rollins really look bad? That is scary shit



Almost a scary as the guy on the mound right now...

It didn't look good, thats for sure. I got chills watching it. Hopefully if he has to be out, which I couldn't imagine because it JRol, it will only be 15 day DL.

And seriously, Flash gives me nightmares. I was biting my pillow and not in a good way.

[Kris10]

Mark it down boys! Last Home Opener at Shea a big L for the METS!!!!!!

Where are you Hippo ?!??!?!!

[Kris10]

High ankle sprain... Rollins walked out and spoke to media without any problems... claims he is day to day.

imo, off tomorrow back on Thurs??

[scottinnj]

Victorino was definetly the game saver for the Phils today. He must have saved three runs from scoring with those catches. Shane is the MAN!

[EddieMoscone]

That fuck Victorino was unbelievable yesterday. I was at the game and it seemed every time the Mets hit what should have been extra bases, this guy ran it down. It was my first time seeing him play center, but I was impressed. If he manages to hit even .240 he should never come out of the line-up.

Seemed to me like Utley had his head hanging over the plate yesterday. Granted, I was in the upper deck, but it was right behind home plate.

[spadanko]

That fuck Victorino was unbelievable yesterday. I was at the game and it seemed every time the Mets hit what should have been extra bases, this guy ran it down. It was my first time seeing him play center, but I was impressed. If he manages to hit even .240 he should never come out of the line-up.

Seemed to me like Utley had his head hanging over the plate yesterday. Granted, I was in the upper deck, but it was right behind home plate.


yeah utley admitted he was hanging over the plate and said that is how he is and he won't change... the first 2 brushed him, and the 3rd, well Show jsut sucks..

[K.C.]

yeah utley admitted he was hanging over the plate and said that is how he is and he won't change... the first 2 brushed him, and the 3rd, well Show jsut sucks..

Let's not forget the fourth, which probably cost them the game....although I say that's more Reyes' fault than Delgado's.

Reyes needs to setup on the right side of the bag...he gave Delgado no target except Utley's back.

[scottinnj]

You sure about that? I thought Delgado accepted the blame for that. I could be wrong.

[K.C.]

You sure about that? I thought Delgado accepted the blame for that. I could be wrong.

He may have...the way I saw it, though, it was equally on Reyes.

[K.C.]

I love Kyle Kendrick box score lines.

2.0 IP, 0 ER, 0 H, 6 BB, 0 K

I smell an A.J. Burnett style no hitter.

[Kris10]

Just walked in the door.. nice catch in the first by Shane.

[Earlshog]

yuck!

[K.C.]

This may be the ugliest baseball I've seen in a long time.

And I think I watched pretty much every inning of the Mets in the field during their nine losses to the Phils.

But the Phils are out Metting the Mets tonight.


Nice to see Jenkins lay out for one...at least someone can catch tonight.

[K.C.]

Hey, they're finally out of it.

Hey, Phils, if you're going to commit four errors in three innings, why not try a little harder at the plate.

...just a suggestion.



Kendrick was bad tonight, but it wasn't 100% his fault. As far as the walks go, the ump was squeezing him a little bit. Don't get me wrong, he wasn't good, but he also got nothing around the plate.

And the error...oh, the errors.

[Kris10]

Kendrick was ugly in the 1st. I miss Rollins.

[K.C.]

Well, boys, the domination couldn't last forever.

And even though Wagner looks like he may pitch the 9th, which means the Phils could conceivably rally for seven runs, it looks like the Mets finally may end the streak.

[Kris10]

Well, boys, the domination couldn't last forever.

AHEM!

[scottinnj]

That was by far the most embarrassing game by any team in the MLB this year. Which means we'll do worse, since we're only 5 games into it.

[K.C.]

That was by far the most embarrassing game by any team in the MLB this year. Which means we'll do worse, since we're only 5 games into it.

Anyone know if Rollins is in the lineup tonight?

Rollins in the lineup = win
Bruntlett in the lineup = oh, the humanity!


UPDATE: Rollins is OUT tonight....yikes.

[Earlshog]

Anyone know if Rollins is in the lineup tonight?

Rollins in the lineup = win
Bruntlett in the lineup = oh, the humanity!


UPDATE: Rollins is OUT tonight....yikes.

Where is Kevin Stocker when you need him....

[Kris10]

Where is Kevin Stocker when you need him....

Good 'ole Stocker. An oldie but goodie. We got Abreu in exchange for Stocker... those were the days.

I really hope we don't lose this series.

[PigShitIrish]

Break out the rally caps!

[K.C.]

Put on some coffee...we're going extras.

[K.C.]

Taguchi beat that out...Mets got a break.

Nice job by Seanez to get through the 11th, facing some tough hitters. So far, so good with him. Looks like he could have been a nice scrap heap pick up.

[Kris10]

Come on Utley!!!!

[Kris10]

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! not gordon :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

[K.C.]

I guess it Schoeneweis was due to redeem himself.

I really don't want to lose this game.

[K.C.]

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! not gordon :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

You may be getting Gordon for two innings tonight, too, if he gets through this first one.

[Kris10]

That went too well. I'm really scared. :unsure:

[K.C.]

Nice job by Gordon...when his curve is working, he's still pretty good.

The problem is that he has a well documented shoulder injury he's been pitching with for over a year, so it's impossible to tell what you're going to get from him night to night.

I think I read he wants to finish out his contract (which end this year) and then retire, rather than have surgery.

[Kris10]

It's going to be a really long season with him in the bullpen since he's so unpredictable.

I didn't think that was an error either, btw.

[K.C.]

Fuck, Reyes might have been out...unless he got his hand on the plate over Coste, because he didn't get any plate on the slide.

[Kris10]

Ugh

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Face!!!!!!!!!!!!!


2 out of 3

[Kris10]

Face!!!!!!!!!!!!!


2 out of 3

Watch the replay, he got his foot you prick. You got a win you shouldn't have.

[K.C.]

Watch the replay, he got his foot you prick. You got a win you shouldn't have.

Agreed, there's no way Reyes got the plate after watching that replay. No wonder Coste was so pissed.

Lucky break for the Mets.

[Kris10]

See you in Philly, asshole!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I think he was out, but the Umps were tired, place the game under protest Phailures

Umpire Face!!!!!!!!!

[K.C.]

I think he was out, but the Umps were tired, place the game under protest Phailures

Umpire Face!!!!!!!!!


Horrible f'n call...I can see this will rivalry will be just as fun this season.

See you for Round 2.

[Kris10]

Where is everyone tonight??

Making a nice comeback in the 6th.

[Kevin]

Where is everyone tonight??

Making a nice comeback in the 6th.

Most of the baseball fans are Hockey fans too here.. Playoff hockey. Both cities have games on.

[Kris10]

Most of the baseball fans are Hockey fans too here.. Playoff hockey. Both cities have games on.

I am aware of that but K.C. is usually here.... u are not. I was looking for my fellow Phils fans.

[jauble]

Where is everyone tonight??

Making a nice comeback in the 6th.

I dont want to hear about it...not yet.

[Kris10]

I dont want to hear about it...not yet.

Oh! Your speaking to me?

[Kris10]

I dont want to hear about it...not yet.

How 'bout now?? :lol:

[K.C.]

I caught a lot of this game while I was out tonight.

I love watching Carlos Zambrano pitch...the guy is a complete fucking lunatic. He makes Myers look like a calm and collected individual.

Nice rally for the W...Lidge looked fantastic in the 9th.

[K.C.]

Bad news:

Victorino on DL with right calf strain
04/12/2008 11:20 PM ET
By Ken Mandel / MLB.com

PHILADELPHIA -- Phillies center fielder Shane Victorino was placed on the 15-day disabled list Saturday night with a strained right calf, the same injury that curtailed his 2007 production.

Outfielder Chris Snelling's contract was purchased from Triple-A Lehigh Valley to fill Victorino's roster spot.

The switch-hitting Victorino grounded to first base to end the sixth inning and ran gingerly to first. He was replaced in the batting order by Geoff Jenkins and in center field by Jayson Werth, who moved over from right field.

Victorino didn't speak to reporters after the game, but conveyed through a team official that he injured himself scoring on a wild pitch in the fifth inning.

He injured the same calf July 30 at Wrigley Field and remained out until Aug. 22. He played sparingly after returning and hit .255 in 26 games, collecting only five of his 37 steals. He was batting .284 at the time of his injury.

Victorino began the season slowly -- hitting .162 through April 10 -- but stroked five hits in his past three games to raise his average to .234. Like teammate Jimmy Rollins, out with a sprained left ankle, Victorino's game relies heavily on speed and mobility.

Without Victorino and Rollins, Phils manager Charlie Manuel will juggle his lineup, with Werth and So Taguchi sharing time in center field. If the injury keeps Victorino out for an extended period, the Phillies may dip into their Minor League system for reinforcements, namely center fielder Greg Golson, who is off to a blistering start for Double-A Reading.

Sucks because Victorino's been so strong defensively. But it's not too bad as Werth is a more than adequate backup.

If I had to guess...Taguchi starts in CF, Werth in RF versus left-handers; Werth in CF, Jenkins in RF versus righties.

Snelling will see some minimal time. I'm kind of curious about him. He was a pretty good prospect at one point in Seattle, but injuries derailed him. He's still pretty young where he could still realize his potential, though.

Also:

Rollins likely out for rest of weekend
04/12/2008 7:46 PM ET
By Ken Mandel / MLB.com

PHILADELPHIA -- Raising his arms to acknowledge the cheers was Jimmy Rollins, as the Phillies' shortstop stepped on the field to accept his 2007 National League MVP, Silver Slugger and Gold Glove.

It would likely be the only time Rollins would be on the field Saturday at Citizens Bank Park.

Though available to pinch-hit, Rollins didn't start for the fourth straight game as he recovers from a sprained left ankle he sustained Tuesday.

"I figured I'd give him another day off because he said he was sore [on Friday]," manager Charlie Manuel said.

The last time Rollins was out of the Phils' lineup for four straight games was July 27-30, 2006. Following that absence, he played in 230 consecutive games.

Rollins' absence increases the likelihood that he will miss Sunday's game, enjoy an off-day Monday and return Tuesday against Houston.

"I've thought about that," Manuel said. "It depends on what goes on. I think he's close. I would think he's going to play Tuesday."

Eric Bruntlett has filled in for Rollins with admittedly subpar results. He made two errors in Wednesday's loss to the Mets, and was unable to lay down a key sacrifice bunt Thursday.

"I have to do all those kind of things, moving guys over, getting a bunt down, hit and run -- that kind of stuff," Bruntlett said. "Things that I didn't do in those first two games. I can't go out there and expect to hit the ball all over the park, out of the park, like a lot of these guys are assigned to do. That's not who I am. I can't try to do that. So I just go out and play my game."

Bruntlett acknowledged that part of his struggles -- he was hitting .133 (2-for-15) entering Saturday -- is trying to impress his new teammates, and starting for the reigning NL MVP only heightens that pressure.

"You want to make an impact, and help the team," Bruntlett said. "A lot of this game is about knowing what level to play. It's not 100 percent all the time. You can't force it."

They need Rollins back, because with him and Victorino out, their team speed takes a huge hit.

I'm very curious to see what the lineup looks like tomorrow without Rollins or Victorino. If I had to guess, Werth will lead off, Bruntlett stays in the two-hole. I could see Taguchi in there, though, even though it's a righty, as he's a more natural first hitter.

[K.C.]

Hamels through three starts:

22 IP, 2-1, 0.82 ERA, 15 K, 7 BB, 0.81 WHIP

Uhhhh....it's almost scary how good this guy is when he's on.

I think he gets Santana next Friday at CBP, unless the Mets bump a starter because of the off day.

[tbagnu]

Hamels through three starts:

22 IP, 2-1, 0.82 ERA, 15 K, 7 BB, 0.81 WHIP

Uhhhh....it's almost scary how good this guy is when he's on.

I think he gets Santana next Friday at CBP, unless the Mets bump a starter because of the off day.

amen to that kc!! let those mets fans think what they might, but i believe our team has the next great "lefty" on their side!! lets hope he stays healthy!!

[Kris10]

Fuck. Well the rest will do Shane some good. I was very concerned after the run he had with Werth. He hasn't been hitting so maybe he'll have some time to focus on his game.

I would love to see Werth in center and Jenkins in right. I'm very impressed with Jenkins and would like to see him get more playing time. Taguchi doesn't phase me. He'll get playing time but he needs to put his best foot forward and contribute. Its going to be interesting. Rollins needs to get back in the lineup, cause we are hurting.

I was thinking about going to the game on Wed night and taking my crabby, whiney kid but it's not worth it if both Shane and Rollins are going to be out of the lineup. Atleast if Jimmy is back out there I can sport by Rollins jersey and cram a dog down my kid's throat.

[K.C.]

Geoff Jenkins is leading off today

:huh:

[TheMojoPin]

I love the Phillies' retro alternate uniforms! Classy, classic look.

[Kris10]

I'm surprised with Jenkins leading off, why not go with Coste? lol Seriously, it was like he tossed up names in the air to see who would lead off today.

Mojo your like the only one who likes those uniforms. Thankfully, we only were them during home day games. I miss the pinstripes.

[K.C.]

I love the Phillies' retro alternate uniforms! Classy, classic look.

I like them too...good alternate uniform for a change.

Powder blue is still the best, though:

http://homerderby.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/phillies-blue-steve-carlton.jpg

[K.C.]

I'm surprised with Jenkins leading off, why not go with Coste? lol Seriously, it was like he tossed up names in the air to see who would lead off today.

Mojo your like the only one who likes those uniforms. Thankfully, we only were them during home day games. I miss the pinstripes.

If this was a Billy Beane team, Pat Burrell would be leading off.

[Kris10]

I like them too...good alternate uniform for a change.

Powder blue is still the best, though:

http://homerderby.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/phillies-blue-steve-carlton.jpg

I stand corrected! Didn't know you liked them too, KC.

Here we go with the HBP's.

[Kris10]

You know.... that wouldn't have been a bad idea... Burrell leading off. He's been hot lately and getting on base.

[TheMojoPin]

Well, looks like the Cubs are conceding the sweep by putting Marquis the Butcher on the mound. Congrats, Phillies.

[K.C.]

Well, looks like the Cubs are conceding the sweep by putting Marquis the Butcher on the mound. Congrats, Phillies.

Eh...he only gave up a double steal to guys that don't really steal bases.

Marquis was the NL version of the Yanks' Jaret Wright signing a couple years ago...or the Phillies' Adam Eaton signing last year (although I have my fingers crossed on that one...he's pitched well so far).

[Kris10]

Too bad Soriano was playing deep for Burrell but atleast we got 1 across.

[K.C.]

BULLSHIT!

That ball was foul by a good three feet!

[K.C.]

This game should be fucking tied. Nice hit Bruntlett...fuck you home plate and 3B umpires.

[Kris10]

1st & 3rd, no outs...lets bring them both in!!!!

Nice base running Ruiz!

[K.C.]

If the Phils win today, they beat the Cubs and the Umps...nice job.

[Kris10]

I think I may go to the BPS instead of the night game Wed.... hmmm. 'stros will be in town, afternoon game, and I won't have to deal with idiot Mets fans.

Anyone else thinking of going?

[tbagnu]

I think I may go to the BPS instead of the night game Wed.... hmmm. 'stros will be in town, afternoon game, and I won't have to deal with idiot Mets fans.

Anyone else thinking of going?

what does the weather look like for wednesday?...fuck the mets and their fans!!

[Kris10]

what does the weather look like for wednesday?...fuck the mets and their fans!!

Wed-high 66, low 44
Thurs-high 70, low 54

Sunny both days... ya, I'm going Thurs for sure. Businesspersons Special against Houston.

I remember when I was in elementary school he use to take us out for the day so we could "attend a family emergency out of state"...thats what he would write on our school notes. It would always be Phillies games that were BPS games. I'll continue that tradition Thurs with my daughter's 1st BPS game.

[K.C.]

Wed-high 66, low 44
Thurs-high 70, low 54

Sunny both days... ya, I'm going Thurs for sure. Businesspersons Special against Houston.

I remember when I was in elementary school he use to take us out for the day so we could "attend a family emergency out of state"...thats what he would write on our school notes. It would always be Phillies games that were BPS games. I'll continue that tradition Thurs with my daughter's 1st BPS game.

We've got tickets on my season ticket package for Thursday, but I think I'm going to give them to my dad and sister.

I'm thinking about going Friday if it's Hamels vs. Santana...I'd like to get to at least one game in the Mets series.

[Kris10]

GOD DAMN FUCKIN' GORDON!!!!!

You know, I was trying to be + and not say anything about him coming into the game. The only time I'd let this ass pitch is if we had a 10+ lead and even then I'd be worried. :furious::furious::furious:

[Kris10]

We've got tickets on my season ticket package for Thursday, but I think I'm going to give them to my dad and sister.

I'm thinking about going Friday if it's Hamels vs. Santana...I'd like to get to at least one game in the Mets series.

I should have done ATLEAST the 6 game package... for the # of games I go to a year and the amt of $ I paid for Red Sox/Phils tix off ebay I would have been ahead of the game. :wallbash:

[K.C.]

Romero is clutch, though.

[Kris10]

Romero is clutch, though.

I know.... but there is no love for Gordon. I know Lidge isn't 100% but I can't deal with this stress

[tbagnu]

rouski i wholeheartedly agree with you about gordon! give him a few games off and rest his tired shoulder. he makes me nervous every time he takes the mound!:wallbash:

[K.C.]

I should have done ATLEAST the 6 game package... for the # of games I go to a year and the amt of $ I paid for Red Sox/Phils tix off ebay I would have been ahead of the game. :wallbash:

I think you can get a 17 game partial plan for $500-$600....it gives you a premium to buy Opening Day and first crack at all single game tickets.

If you get tickets for Opening Day, and sell those, Red Sox tickets, Fireworks day, and Fan Appreciation day on eBay or StubHub (you can get a good price for Mets tickets too, but I wouldn't sell to Mets fans) you can make a good profit and get the package free plus some extra cash, just on buying extra tickets for those dates alone.

I could have made $100-$125 each on my Opening Day tickets alone. I have tickets to all three Red Sox games...not sure what I'm going to do yet. I'm contemplating selling since they're going for over $100 on eBay right now, but I'll probably go to at least one, maybe two.

[Kris10]

rouski i wholeheartedly agree with you about gordon! give him a few games off and rest his tired shoulder. he makes me nervous every time he takes the mound!:wallbash:

I know a lot of people use to get stressed when Mitch Williams would come in the game but I adored Mitch, he was exciting to me. I've followed him since he left the Phils and even when he went on to work with the A.C. Surf and now he's doing Post Game Live. But Gordon, can't deal with him. Maybe its because I'm older... I don't know. The man seriously stresses me out.

[Kris10]

I think you can get a 17 game partial plan for $500-$600....it gives you a premium to buy Opening Day and first crack at all single game tickets.

If you get tickets for Opening Day, and sell those, Red Sox tickets, Fireworks day, and Fan Appreciation day on eBay or StubHub (you can get a good price for Mets tickets too, but I wouldn't sell to Mets fans) you can make a good profit and get the package free plus some extra cash, just on buying extra tickets for those dates alone.

I could have made $100-$125 each on my Opening Day tickets alone. I have tickets to all three Red Sox games...not sure what I'm going to do yet. I'm contemplating selling since they're going for over $100 on eBay right now, but I'll probably go to at least one, maybe two.

Ya, I should have done that it would have been the best thing for me. In the past I've bought just the Sunday home games which I really like. I got robbbed on my Red Sox tickets, they are 400 level and I paid about $150 for them but its a game I really want to go to. My boyfriend is a Red Sox fan and I know its a game we'll both really enjoy.

[K.C.]

Ya, I should have done that it would have been the best thing for me. In the past I've bought just the Sunday home games which I really like. I got robbbed on my Red Sox tickets, they are 400 level and I paid about $150 for them but its a game I really want to go to. My boyfriend is a Red Sox fan and I know its a game we'll both really enjoy.

Even if you buy just the MVP Six Pack....say you get a MVP Six Pack with six tickets....get Opening Day and sell four, get a fireworks game and sell four, a Mets game and sell four, and the Fan Appreciation game and sell four and you still come out ahead and get all the games.

I knew a bunch of people who wanted Opening Day tickets this year who were asking me about them. I told them that's exactly what you do.

[K.C.]

Burrell is fucking awesome!

Phillies' fans are going to miss him when he's gone next year. They rode him for every strikeout so hard for such a long time, but he's been a very solid player.

Never lived up to the being a #1 overall pick, but still very solid nonetheless.

[Kris10]

Even if you buy just the MVP Six Pack....say you get a MVP Six Pack with six tickets....get Opening Day and sell four, get a fireworks game and sell four, a Mets game and sell four, and the Fan Appreciation game and sell four and you still come out ahead and get all the games.

I knew a bunch of people who wanted Opening Day tickets this year who were asking me about them. I told them that's exactly what you do.

I'm going to do this next year. I've been an stoopid way too long.

[Kris10]

Do we lead in HBP's as a team this year??

[Kris10]

Damn, I thought that was gone....

[scottinnj]

Well, looks like the Cubs are conceding the sweep by putting Marquis the Butcher on the mound. Congrats, Phillies.

You were saying?


God I hate losing a game due to an unearned run.

[K.C.]

Pat Fucking Burrell!!!! The man is God!

Fuck off, Shawn Chacon, and your eight shutout innings!

Thankfully, Valverde sucks ass.

[K.C.]

Un-god damn-believeable.

The people who gave up on this one after the 8th missed out.

[K.C.]

I guess there's some justice after all...because the replay looks like Ausmus got Jenkins at the plate despite the safe call.

But hey...the Umps owed one...so all's well that end's well.

[PigShitIrish]

Un-god damn-believeable.

The people who gave up on this one after the 8th missed out.

Missed it because of the Flyers game, but Pat Burrell is the man! It's so good to see him this hot, this early in the season.

[K.C.]

So I was thinking about this today.

If the Phillies had kept everyone in their farm system, this would be the all-home grown 2008 Phillies:

C - Carlos Ruiz
1B - Ryan Howard
2B - Chase Utley
3B - Scott Rolen
SS - Jimmy Rollins
LF - Pat Burrell
CF - Michael Bourn
RF - Shane Victorino

Bench:
OF - Jason Michaels
OF - Marlon Byrd
C - Johnny Estrada
IF - Marlon Anderson
IF - Nick Punto


SP - Cole Hamels
SP - Carlos Silva
SP - Randy Wolf
SP - Gavin Floyd
SP - Adam Eaton (originally drafted by the Phillies...traded for Andy Ashby later on)

CL - Brett Myers
SU - Derrick Turnbow
MR - Ryan Madson
MR - Scott Mathieson
MR - Geoff Geary
LR - Taylor Buchholz
LR - Robinson Tejeda

[K.C.]

So I was thinking about this today.

If the Phillies had kept everyone in their farm system, this would be the all-home grown 2008 Phillies:

C - Carlos Ruiz
1B - Ryan Howard
2B - Chase Utley
3B - Scott Rolen
SS - Jimmy Rollins
LF - Pat Burrell
CF - Michael Bourn
RF - Shane Victorino

Bench:
OF - Jason Michaels
OF - Marlon Byrd
C - Johnny Estrada
IF - Marlon Anderson
IF - Nick Punto


SP - Cole Hamels
SP - Carlos Silva
SP - Randy Wolf
SP - Gavin Floyd
SP - Adam Eaton (originally drafted by the Phillies...traded for Andy Ashby later on)

CL - Brett Myers
SU - Derrick Turnbow
MR - Ryan Madson
MR - Scott Mathieson
MR - Geoff Geary
LR - Taylor Buchholz
LR - Robinson Tejeda


It's kind of interesting. to compare. If Rolen is healthy, he's better all-around than Feliz. The outfield has less power but more speed and defense. The starting pitching is probably better now than it would have been. Hamels and Eaton are the same...I'd rather have Myers, Moyer, Kendrick than Silva, Wolf, Floyd.

I think Lidge as our closer will be better than Myers would be. Turnbow is obviously a better setup guy than Gordon, but there's no one the equivalent of Romero in that home-grown pen.

So I'd say the Starting Eight is slightly better, but the pitching is a little worse. Not a huge difference, though.

[Kris10]

It was nice to see Burrell in the recap..... I missed it due to Spongebob :annoyed:

[Earlshog]

What a win! Huge!

Pat the Bat is playing for the contract... Maybe he will be the third MVP not Utley.... Then sign a 6 year 90 mil deal and hit .198 with 175 whiffs next year...

[Kris10]

Am I the only one going to the game tomorrow??? Come on guys, its going to be beautiful tomorrow!!! 71 degrees as the high... hopefully Rollins will be playing *fingers crossed*

[Kris10]

How'd we go a whole game without posting???

Leaving now!

[K.C.]

How'd we go a whole game without posting???

Leaving now!

Because I didn't believe for a second they'd beat Oswalt...the guys owns the Phillies.

Now, Backe on the other hand...off to a good start today.

[Knowledged_one]

I thought the report was that Rollins would be ready to play on Tuesday its now Thrusday and he is not in the lineup again and its killing my Fantasy team because they wont put him on the DL.

On the plus Burrell is killing for me, and i pick up Jayson Werth to replace Victorino and they have him on the bench today

Fucking Phillies are killing my team

[K.C.]

I thought the report was that Rollins would be ready to play on Tuesday its now Thrusday and he is not in the lineup again and its killing my Fantasy team because they wont put him on the DL.

On the plus Burrell is killing for me, and i pick up Jayson Werth to replace Victorino and they have him on the bench today

Fucking Phillies are killing my team

Rollins is going to be out through the weekend at least, I think. They can't put him on the DL because Manuel keeps using him as a pinch-hitter, so they can't retroact the move from the date he got injured because he keeps showing up.

It would cost him another 15 days.

As good as Werth is playing, they're going to mix and match him, Taguchi, and Jenkins, I think.


Burrell's the one to start, if you have. He's crushing the ball now.

[Knowledged_one]

in my league you have no reserves we set our lineups on Monday and that is what you get for the week and its a salary cap league so with $3.10 of $26 being taken up by a bench riding Rollins is killings me, and i dont want to drop him because he will get snatched up. And i know about Werth but he had a great week last week and benching him just seems silly to me but what do i know.

And Burrell has been a bargain at $1.40 so far this year.

[K.C.]

in my league you have no reserves we set our lineups on Monday and that is what you get for the week and its a salary cap league so with $3.10 of $26 being taken up by a bench riding Rollins is killings me, and i dont want to drop him because he will get snatched up. And i know about Werth but he had a great week last week and benching him just seems silly to me but what do i know.

And Burrell has been a bargain at $1.40 so far this year.

Well, Werth will definitely be in against Santana and Perez this weekend against the Mets.

Not sure about Sunday vs. Pelfrey, but I imagine if he's playing well they'll give him the start there too.

[scottinnj]

nice win today for the fightin' phils. back to back hr's for ryan and pat, chase knocks in two with his hr, dobbs doing the same-loving mlb on xm so i don't miss it while at work.

[scottinnj]

Am I the only one going to the game tomorrow??? Come on guys, its going to be beautiful tomorrow!!! 71 degrees as the high... hopefully Rollins will be playing *fingers crossed*

don't know about friday, but he said he will deinetly be back from oakland for saturday's game-death in the family is the reason.

[Kris10]

GREAT game! I wasn't sure about the line up but it worked. The HR's were awesome... Coste definitely had a great game going 4-5. Burrell & Utley delivered at the plate but I wasn't happy with the # of runners left on base. The weather was beautiful and had a bunch of fun with the guys in my section.. nothing beats meeting great Phils fans and bonding during the game, my daughter drove me insane but we had a terrific time.

[K.C.]

I don't know why the hell ESPN's not picking up this game tonight. They have absolute dogshit on their schedule tonight.

Phils/Mets is the National game both on Saturday (FOX) and Sunday (ESPN)

[Knowledged_one]

probably contractural reasons, why what do they have on tonight?

[K.C.]

probably contractural reasons, why what do they have on tonight?

Absolutely nothing...I think an NFL Live, and an NBA Fast Break or something...then Sportscenter...then Baseball Tonight at 10.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Round Deux begins tonight

Mets and Phillies on a small roll

Lets go Mets

[Kris10]

Round Deux begins tonight

Mets and Phillies on a small roll

Lets go Mets

Ugh!!!

[K.C.]

Tonight's going to be awesome....got a freshly stocked fridge of booze and food on the grill right now.

Looking forward to Hamels dominating.

[BoondockSaint]

Tonight's going to be awesome....got a freshly stocked fridge of booze and food on the grill right now.

Looking forward to Hamels dominating.


Same here. Booze, food, and looking forward to a great game. Tonight is the kind of match up that baseball is all about.

I must say though, I'm not looking forward to Hamels dominating, for obvious reasons.

[BoondockSaint]

hello hello hello hello hello

[K.C.]

That game lived up to the hype. Santana was awesome, Hamels was very good.

The bullpens sucked, but the Mets' sucked just a little less tonight.

The Werth dive on the Wright ball was probably the difference. If he had played it straight up, I don't think Reyes would have scored. May have been an entirely different ballgame at 1-0 than 2-0

[tbagnu]

in my humble and honest opinion, me thinks we miss j-roll quite a bit last night, especially for his defense!! (quite and understatement!!)

[K.C.]

in my humble and honest opinion, me thinks we miss j-roll quite a bit last night, especially for his defense!! (quite and understatement!!)

Suppose to be back in Sunday, but we've heard that about eight times already.


I'm looking forward to this afternoon. If the Phils grab the next two with Grandpa and Adam 'Met Killer' Eaton on the mound, the division is even up (standings wise...Mets still have two in-hand) and we basically start it over again.

If you want to take some positives out of the start so far, it's better than last year, and their pitching has actually been pretty good. If they come out of April .500 and the pitching stays around where they're throwing now, this team is in very good shape

Guys like Howard, Rollins, Victorino, Ruiz, usually take a little while to get going. The only guy who usually starts on fire is Burrell each year.

So when those bats come around, this team will catch fire.

April is always their biggest problem, but they've outperformed already what they've done in recent years.

[spadanko]

helluva game last night... You guys want Heilman? I can't stand to look at his stupid face anymore

[K.C.]

helluva game last night... You guys want Heilman? I can't stand to look at his stupid face anymore

Only if you take Gordon.

[K.C.]

I'm not the biggest Bruntlett fan, but any guy who can draw a walk after 15 pitches in an at bat is ok in my book.

[K.C.]

Fucking Jenkins...how do you miss two fastballs in a 3-1 count with the bases loaded????????????????????? FUCK!

[PigShitIrish]

Jimmy Rollins was just placed on the 15 day DL.

[K.C.]

Jimmy Rollins was just placed on the 15 day DL.

Ugh...not good news...they need him back badly. It's another 15 days since he pinch-hit yesterday.

[Kris10]

Ugh...not good news...they need him back badly. It's another 15 days since he pinch-hit yesterday.

Terrible news but very fitting with the kind of week I've had.

[scottinnj]

Jimmy Rollins was just placed on the 15 day DL.

That blows. This means at best we'll be .500 at the end of April.

[scottinnj]

Nuts, it's tied up. Let's goto the Mets thread and throw water balloons at them.

[Kris10]

Nuts, it's tied up. Let's goto the Mets thread and throw water balloons at them.

I like Durbin... he has good stuff. But it doesn't help he can't get out of the inning.

*there we go... he struck Anderson out swinging.

[Kris10]

#12 Mickey Morandini... I mean T.J. Bohn. Well, he's not Bruntlett!!!

You guys no Snelling is on the DL as well??

[scottinnj]

Here comes Romero, hopefully. I saw him warming up.

[scottinnj]

Nice big strikeout there to end the inning. Now we have to wake up bat:

AND FELIZ WITH A HOMER!!!!

[scottinnj]

C'mon Double play!!!

[K.C.]

Great hustle by Howard.

[scottinnj]

I don't know who was more surprised at that catch, the announcers or Howard.

The summer wind, kept blowing in........

[K.C.]

Eric Fucking Bruntlett!!!!!!!!

Of All The Goddamn People!!!!!

Go Phils!

[Kris10]

Nice Bruntlett. I spoke to soon earlier.. I didn't realize he was in the game. Good for him.

[scottinnj]

No shit.

J-Roll, that was for you!

[Kris10]

No shit.

J-Roll, that was for you!

'bout time!

[jonyrotn]

<p>'bout time!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
Your second baseman is pretty good..Is he new?

[Kris10]

<p></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
Your second baseman is pretty good..Is he new?

Utley, no. Bruntlett is filling in short for Rollins. And your giving Bruntlett toooooo much credit!

[jonyrotn]

<p><p>Utley, no. Bruntlett is filling in short for Rollins. And your giving Bruntlett toooooo much credit!</p></p>
<p><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p>I was talking about Utley, silly... Can't you tell when a guy is trying to be cute? (you're right.I'm not very cute.) What a game he had though..I don't get to watch to many of his at bats, in full..He's got the fastest hands through the zone, probably in the whole league..Can't ask for much more with the leather either..</p>
Btw Bruntlet's play was awsome..

[Kris10]

<p></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
I was talking about Utley, silly... Can't you tell when a guy is trying to be cute? (you're right.I'm not very cute.) What a game he had though..I don't get to watch to many of his at bats, in full..He's got the fastest hands through the zone, probably in the whole league..Can't ask for much more with the leather either..

Nooo, Utley's been with us since 2003. He's allll Philly. Great player, very dependable, doing great things year both offensively and defensively.

And your very cute.

[K.C.]

I may have to change the third rung of my MVP sig from:

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/29/295133.jpg


to:

http://www.ailurophile.com/karenslife/images/pat-burrell2.jpg




And then there's got to be something I can do with this:

http://enrico.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/04/01/patburrellgivesthefinger.jpg

[K.C.]

Howard starts the two out rally, and a big hit by Carlos Ruiz to give the Phillies the lead. Hopefully this jump starts both these guys.

If the Phils hold on to win, I have to give Manuel credit on this one. I thought he'd lift Ruiz for Coste to face Brian Fuentes, but he stuck with his guy and it paid off.

Gordon on now.

:unsure:

New Phillie T.J. Bohn drops a routine fly. Welcome to the club! :wallbash:

Good hit by T.J., though, in the bottom half. Two-run double.

[K.C.]

Put it in the W column.

Back to .500 at 10-10.

[Knowledged_one]

How about i hate the Phillies for jerking Jimmy Rollins around and costing me 2 weeks of fantasy stats and then they finally put him on the DL and the only one i can put in his place is Jeff Kent

[scottinnj]

And then there's got to be something I can do with this:

http://enrico.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/04/01/patburrellgivesthefinger.jpg

Post it whenever Wagner takes the mound against us.

[scottinnj]

How about i hate the Phillies for jerking Jimmy Rollins around and costing me 2 weeks of fantasy stats and then they finally put him on the DL and the only one i can put in his place is Jeff Kent

Well, fantasy team aside, if J-Roll had come back and aggravated it, he would have been out for a whooooole lot longer.

[scottinnj]

10 more minutes......

I hate Comcast for sticking it to Phillies fans who don't use their service. Even the Directv Baseball package has home and away games blacked out because Comcast won't loosen their grip on CN8. Thank God MLB.com runs live box scoring during the game.

[scottinnj]

Werth is on board for Utley to smack another one outta here!

Edit: Oh well.

[scottinnj]

top of the ninth, and they intentionally walk Ryan, to face Pat. Bad move.

[K.C.]

top of the ninth, and they intentionally walk Ryan, to face Pat. Bad move.

PAT THE MOTHERFUCKING BAT!!!!!

You have to get the games, man...that was an awesome play to watch. Howard almost passed Utley on the basepaths, he was chugging so fast.

[scottinnj]

Pat knocks in all three baserunners, then makes it to third on what should have been a double. WAY TO GO PAT!!!!

[scottinnj]

PAT THE MOTHERFUCKING BAT!!!!!

You have to get the games, man...that was an awesome play to watch. Howard almost passed Utley on the basepaths, he was chugging so fast.

MLB.com sometimes runs a video of a crucial play, but so far not that one. Usually MLB shows home runs.

[scottinnj]

Werth's inside the park home run kicked ass. That dude can run like hell!

[K.C.]

Lights out Lidge locks it down.

Another W...jump the Braves in the standings tonight, tied with the Mets, closing on the Fish.

Finally, a decent April for this team.

[scottinnj]

Holliday grounds out. Fucking beautiful game by the Phightin Phils.

They will be tearing up the NL East when Rollins and Victorino get back in the lineup.

Great win tonight.

[scottinnj]

ESPN really sucks sometimes.

They just ran the game highlights on sportscenter, showed Utley's double and Burrel's "triple", but didn't even mention Werth's inside the park home run. I did see Howard running in behind Utley on Burrel's hit, that was awesome!

[scottinnj]

....tied with the Mets,


Thanks to Mojo's Cubbies. That was a blowout today.

[K.C.]

ESPN really sucks sometimes.

They just ran the game highlights on sportscenter, showed Utley's double and Burrel's "triple", but didn't even mention Werth's inside the park home run. I did see Howard running in behind Utley on Burrel's hit, that was awesome!

The inside-the-park HR was last night.

[scottinnj]

The inside-the-park HR was last night.

Then I read the box score wrong tonight. God I hate Comcast.

[tbagnu]

KC..knowing that they usually suck in april..what has been their april record the last few years? you seem to be one who can find these things out!!

[K.C.]

2007: 11-14
2006: 10-14
2005: 10-15
2004: 10-11

They sit at 11-10 with seven games left in April. I'd say a reachable goal would be five of the next seven.

That would put them at 16-12 for the month which would be an excellent turn around.


It's also equally important that no one has ran away early this year. The Mets started in 15-9, and 16-8 in '07 and '06 respectively. They're at 10-9 right now.

[spadanko]

2007: 11-14
2006: 10-14
2005: 10-15
2004: 10-11

They sit at 11-10 with seven games left in April. I'd say a reachable goal would be five of the next seven.

That would put them at 16-12 for the month which would be an excellent turn around.


It's also equally important that no one has ran away early this year. The Mets started in 15-9, and 16-8 in '07 and '06 respectively. They're at 10-9 right now.

the division is going to be a mishmash all year long... get the tums ready

[Knowledged_one]

Well, fantasy team aside, if J-Roll had come back and aggravated it, he would have been out for a whooooole lot longer.

I wholeheartedly agree with that point, the fact that they kept him out there for an injury where he couldnt play was silly and the fact that they let him pinch hit even more so

NOt to worry i still have Pat Burrell killing for me

[K.C.]

the division is going to be a mishmash all year long... get the tums ready

Agreed, which is why I'm a little skeptical of the Mets. I don't know that they have the depth this season to win the kind of 'war of atrition' that the NL East is going to be.

So far, the Phils have shown they can get by for a little bit without some of their guys.

[BoondockSaint]

Agreed, which is why I'm a little skeptical of the Mets. I don't know that they have the depth this season to win the kind of 'war of atrition' that the NL East is going to be.

So far, the Phils have shown they can get by for a little bit without some of their guys.


Well, we haven't had Alou, Pedro, Castro or El Duque. If we ever will, I have no idea.

[spadanko]

Agreed, which is why I'm a little skeptical of the Mets. I don't know that they have the depth this season to win the kind of 'war of atrition' that the NL East is going to be.

So far, the Phils have shown they can get by for a little bit without some of their guys.


it's strange how no one ever talks about the Mets not having Alou. the guy hit 340 last season witha 30 game hit streak... he is a major factor for them

[K.C.]

Well, we haven't had Alou, Pedro, Castro or El Duque. If we ever will, I have no idea.

Pagan will be a nice bench asset when Alou comes back, and actually helps deflect a little of the hit losing Gomez and Milledge.

My big thing is this; the Mets have a pretty damn good starting five when they're all healthy. I won't even include El Duque in it, because quite frankly, I think Pelfrey is past him.

But they have no minor league depth in pitching, which means their starting rotation and bullpen has to hold up all year, or else you're looking at guys like Nelson Figueroa and Claudio Vargas playing huge roles, which may work here and there, but I don't think can work long term.

The Phils rotation isn't great on paper (although they've pitched well as a pitching staff so far), but they are sitting on Carrasco, Outman, Savery, and Mathieson in the minors if someone falters. That's a pretty good young foursome that can contribute if need.

I have more faith in one of those guys playing a big role late in the year than guys like Figueroa or Vargas, if need be.


And if it is a close race, that could be all the difference.

[K.C.]

it's strange how no one ever talks about the Mets not having Alou. the guy hit 340 last season witha 30 game hit streak... he is a major factor for them

Yeah, they miss Alou more than people are letting on. Pagan's hot start aside, they'd be much better served with him in there and Pagan platooning with Church.

[Knowledged_one]

Well, we haven't had Alou, Pedro, Castro or El Duque. If we ever will, I have no idea.

You mean they dont you?

[Knowledged_one]

Yeah, they miss Alou more than people are letting on. Pagan's hot start aside, they'd be much better served with him in there and Pagan platooning with Church.

I dont see Pagan replacing Church, that guy has been on a tear to start the year, amazing what hitting in a good lineup does for a guy

[K.C.]

I dont see Pagan replacing Church, that guy has been on a tear to start the year, amazing what hitting in a good lineup does for a guy

Not replace...platoon.

Church is hitting lefties well right now (.355), but his history doesn't suggest he'll hold up. He hit .229 last season against them.

You stick with Church for now, since he's so hot, but when he starts to cool off, you work your way into a left/right platoon with him and Pagan in RF.

And then use one to spell Alou here and there. Alou is probably a five day a week player at this point in his career anyway if you want to keep him healthy.

[Knowledged_one]

its very hard to take Church's numbers from last year and compare it with this year. He played for a bad team in a horrible park. I think you will see Church gett the majority of the time over Pagan. And who knows if Alou hasnt been peeing on his hands maybe he wont be able to hit at all

[K.C.]

Jose, Jose, Jose, Jose....Jose....Jose

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3937/1000835bk5.jpg

I got that in the mail today. It's pretty well made, so I'm not entirely sure if I want to keep it as part of my collection, or destroy in some ceremonious act to exemplify my hatred of the Mets.


At the very least, I'm going to have some fun with it first:

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/24/1000837st7.jpg

[K.C.]

Utley HR (how damn good is he?)
Dobbs HR
Burrell HR (how damn good is he playing??)

4-3 over the Fighting Epos.

Why the hell are the Brewers carrying 14 PITCHERS?!

[scottinnj]

This is exactly what Cole needs...big bats to back up his big arm. 83 pitches so far, 57 of them strikes.

Phenomenal!

[scottinnj]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2008/02/23/lidge_brad_getty_260.jpg

TURN THAT SHIT UP!

[K.C.]

Ned Yost is a retard.

He leaves Dave Bush in to hit in the 6th, despite a chance to get back in the game. Then he pulls him after giving up a leadoff double to Werth in the 7th.

And he has 14 PITCHERS!!!!


If only he had 1/10th of the wisdom of this guy:

http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2005-08/19223761.jpg

[scottinnj]

How's this Mitch Stetter guy?

[scottinnj]

Now that we have the lead, do you pull Hamels and put in JC Romero to set up for Lidge?

[K.C.]

Now that we have the lead, do you pull Hamels and put in JC Romero to set up for Lidge?

Stetter's ok, but Howard just made him look like a million bucks with his awful at bat.


I give Hamels the 7th...if he get through it trouble free, you let him start the 8th, with Romero and Gordon warming up in the pen. Use them if he gets into trouble.

Lidge gets the 9th if they have a lead.

[K.C.]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2008/02/23/lidge_brad_getty_260.jpg

TURN THAT SHIT UP!

If they used that song, it'd be one of the best entrances in baseball.

Sadly, I think he's using 'Soldiers' by Drowning Pool.

[scottinnj]

I know where I got mixed up last night about Weth's in park HR:

I was going back and forth and saw that Werth hit one, then went to the vid feed to see any footage, and they were still running stuff from the night before.

And the game was on UPN, I could have watched it. I'm a retard for not checking the broadcast schedule before the game. I just assumed a weeknight game would be on Comcast.

[scottinnj]

I give Hamels the 7th...if he get through it trouble free,


You're right as rain. Hamel's is kicking ass tonight!

[K.C.]

You're right as rain. Hamel's is kicking ass tonight!

He's been pretty sharp since the 1st...and I always tend to believe you let your guys throw until they run out of gas.

[K.C.]

This is the move of the game...Hamels vs. Fielder or Romero vs. Fielder???


Looks like Charlie's going Hamels.

[K.C.]

This is the move of the game...Hamels vs. Fielder or Romero vs. Fielder???


Looks like Charlie's going Hamels.



....well, Charlie guessed wrong....

[scottinnj]

This is the move of the game...Hamels vs. Fielder or Romero vs. Fielder???


Looks like Charlie's going Hamels.

Oh well. It's a one run lead. We can get it back.

[K.C.]

Oh well. It's a one run lead. We can get it back.

I'm not sure I can really blame Charlie....Hamels was ahead of him in the count, and was throwing fastballs in the strike zone for some reason.

He needed to throw out of the zone and get Fielder to chase, especially with a base open.


We'll probably get Taguchi, Coste, and Werth in the 9th against Gagne. Taguchi needs to find a way to get on.

[scottinnj]

This turnbrow kid has a 9.64 ERA. Hopefully we can take advantage of that.

Edit: It took 10 pitches to strike out Bruntlett. My hopes are raising.

[scottinnj]

Taguchi's on with a walk. Here comes Werth. My Spidey Senses are tingling!

[K.C.]

Awesome, awesome running by Taguchi.

I'm beginning to love this guy.

Come on, Werth...fly ball, baby!

[scottinnj]

Steals second, and gets third base as a bonus. NICE!

[K.C.]

Fuck.

That's on Werth...if there's one knock on him, he swings and misses too much.

[scottinnj]

And we leave him in scoring postion for another loss. Oh well.

[scottinnj]

Cool. Afternoon game tomorrow. I'll get to listen in the car on XM.

[epo]

This turnbrow kid has a 9.64 ERA. Hopefully we can take advantage of that.

Edit: It took 10 pitches to strike out Bruntlett. My hopes are raising.

Turnbow did make the All-Star team in 2006 as a closer.

[scottinnj]

Turnbow did make the All-Star team in 2006 as a closer.

Barack can't win in PA. but we can't win in Milwaukee. Oh, the ironeeeeee............

[cougarjake13]

Turnbow did make the All-Star team in 2006 as a closer.

wha happened ??

[epo]

wha happened ??

With a depleted bullpen the day after an extra innings game....the Brewers had to use Turnbow in the ninth for a save.

Turnbow's last save before tonight: April 23, 2007.

[cougarjake13]

With a depleted bullpen the day after an extra innings game....the Brewers had to use Turnbow in the ninth for a save.

Turnbow's last save before tonight: April 23, 2007.

so thats ruined him for the last few years ??

[scottinnj]

With a depleted bullpen the day after an extra innings game....the Brewers had to use Turnbow in the ninth for a save.

Turnbow's last save before tonight: April 23, 2007.

When are you gonna start a Brewer's 2008 thread to piss off Mojo?

[epo]

When are you gonna start a Brewer's 2008 thread to piss off Mojo?

Actually I started the NL Central thread (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67269)awhile ago. I must be getting soft in my old age.

[TheMojoPin]

When are you gonna start a Brewer's 2008 thread to piss off Mojo?

The Brewers don't piss me off. They're not a "real" rival...just a competitor that happens to be in the same divison.

[scottinnj]

The Brewers don't piss me off. They're not a "real" rival...just a competitor that happens to be in the same divison.

FACE!

[epo]

The Brewers don't piss me off. They're not a "real" rival...just a competitor that happens to be in the same divison.

FACE!

Actually Mojo and I have discussed this not being a real rivalry yet. It stems to the fact that the Brewers didn't join the NL Central until 1998.

It will take another 10 years, but trust us Scott...we'll learn to hate each other.

[Knowledged_one]

Is Pat Burrell that bad in the field he gets pulled an awful lot in the 7th and 8th innings it seems

[K.C.]

Is Pat Burrell that bad in the field he gets pulled an awful lot in the 7th and 8th innings it seems

He was never very quick, but some continuous leg injuries have basically slowed him down to a crawl.

Taguchi and Bohn can cover more ground, and you have to start thinking defense from the 7th on a lot of times at Citizens Bank Park.

Needless to say, if the Phils don't resign Burrell, he has DH or 1B in his future.

[K.C.]

LIGHTS OUT!

http://blog.kir.com/archives/Brad%20Lidge.jpg

[K.C.]

Manuel: Victorino to return Tuesday
04/25/2008 6:56 PM ET
By Chris Adamski / Special to MLB.com

PITTSBURGH -- The Phillies have more than treaded water with some of their regular contributors out of the lineup for various reasons, and the team reported some good news Friday regarding two injured players -- including the reigning National League MVP.

First, news on speedy outfielder Shane Victorino, who has been on the disabled list since April 13 with a strained right calf. After two games of a rehabilitation assignment with Class A Clearwater in which he went 2-for-5 with an RBI and a run, Victorino will move up the organization ladder. He was to continue his rehab with Double-A Reading on Friday.

"He's going to Reading [on Friday] and [Saturday], and then he's going to go play two games at [Triple-A] Lehigh Valley," Phillies manager Charlie Manuel said. "And he'll join us Tuesday."

Assuming there are no setbacks and Victorino does indeed join the Phils when they host the Padres for the start of a three-game series at Citizens Bank Park on Tuesday, that would represent the earliest he could return from the 15-day disabled list.

Rollins, meanwhile, isn't as close to returning from his sprained left ankle. On the disabled list since Sunday, he will remain in Clearwater, Fla., to continue his rehabilitation.

"Jimmy's doing infield work, and he's taking batting practice," Manuel said. "He's coming along pretty good."

Also, catcher Chris Coste was back in the lineup Friday for the first time in five days and played for the first time in three games.

"I had something going on," said Coste, who is hitting .370. "I don't know what it was, but I feel much better."

Carlos Ruiz, hitting only .194, started each of the past four games.

Not only was Coste back in the lineup, he was in the No. 5 spot against Pirates starter Zach Duke. That represents the highest he has batted this season. In each of his other starts, Manuel had Coste in the seventh or eighth spots.

"Ever since he's come to the big leagues, he's hit lefties good," Manuel said. "And with the lineup the way it is, I like hitting him fifth, because I know he's going to make contact and put the ball in play."

This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


I'm a little curious to see what happens when Victorino comes of the DL.

You obviously want Victorino in for his defense, but Werth has been unbelievable hot. Jenkins has been struggling. How Charlie juggles them is going to be interesting. You have to at least play Jenkins regularly against righties, because you want to see him get going.

So my guess is it'll be something like this

vs. Left-handers
Werth starts
Victorino and Jenkins platoon (Victorino gets most of the starts)

Vs. Right-Handers
Victorino starts
Werth and Jenkins platoon (Jenkins gets most of the starts)

And then they have to decide whether or not they send down Bohn or Harman. Harman fills the utility IF spot, but Feliz can play some SS and 2B if need be, so my guess is Harman goes and Bohn sticks.

[K.C.]

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/7069/standingsoh9.jpg

So far, so good...pretty close to weathering the April storm without Rollins or Victorino and Howard hitting like garbage.

[K.C.]

http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper868/stills/i80k23vy.jpg

He's BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!

[tbagnu]

put another one in the win column for the fightins!!! wow i cannot wait for the warmer weather and we get our speedsters back!! lookin' good as of now!!:clap:

[scottinnj]

Two games above .500 is what I was hoping for to end April with. It can only get better.

[cougarjake13]

Two games above .500 is what I was hoping for to end April with. It can only get better.

in theory

[scottinnj]

in theory

Victorino is coming back, and J-Roll will be back soon too. Maybe "hope" is not just for the Obama campaign.

[K.C.]

Victorino activated but not in the starting lineup tonight.

[K.C.]

1/2 game out of first.

Howard looks like he's starting to see the ball at the plate better, which is good.

[K.C.]

This caught my eye a couple days ago:

Considering A Padres Fire Sale

The Padres are 8.5 games out, and it's only April 28th. It's not a good place to be. Obviously they aren't throwing in the towel yet, but if they have a similarly ugly May a fire sale could be in order. Let's speculate on some trade possibilities.

* Greg Maddux. The Padres' highest paid player at $10MM, Mad Dog is calling his own shots at this point. I imagine he'd prefer to stay put.
* Brian Giles. The team's leadoff hitter still knows how to draw a walk. He doesn't hit lefties much but his overall numbers would look a lot better away from Petco. He earns $9MM this year and has a $3MM buyout for '09. He can block trades to eight teams and gets a $2MM increase if dealt.
* Jim Edmonds. He'd have to shake off the slow start and remain healthy. Makes $8MM with no-trade protection; the Cards are paying $2MM of his salary.
* Trevor Hoffman. Even if Hoffman loses the closer gig a trade seems unlikely.
* Randy Wolf. He might be one of the Padres' more tradeable commodities. He's signed reasonably and just needs to remain healthy. Everyone needs pitching.
* Khalil Greene. Greene gets $4.5MM this year and $6.5MM in '09. Trading him only makes sense if a good young shortstop comes back.
* Others: Tadahito Iguchi, Tony Clark, Glendon Rusch, Michael Barrett (if healthy).

Obviously, I don't think Maddux would come East, and definitely not to Citizens Bank Park...however, I wouldn't mind Wolf and Iguchi.

Although I think the Phillies may be tired of dealing with Wolf. The last two years, they offered him better contracts than the teams he signed with and he snubbed them both times.

Iguchi, though, genuinely wanted to come back, wouldn't have been able to sign until May 15th because of the details of his contract and release. He would have played 3B had they signed him. However, now whether or not the Phillies would have interest may be a point to consider.

The Phils seem pretty happy with their bench of Werth, Dobbs, Coste, Bruntlett, and Taguchi.

[K.C.]

Here's a minor league roundup for the club:

Antonio Bastardo, LHP, High-A Clearwater (Phillies)
Bastardo can be seen as one of those “is what he is” kind of players: a short lefty with average velocity. However, beyond his left-handedness, he’s also got fantastic command and a killer changeup. That’s enough to make him some kind of prospect, and he’s on a roll with the Threshers, striking out 13 over eight two-hit innings yesterday—his third double-digit strikeout game in five starts. Currently sitting with a 1.17 ERA and 47 Ks in 30 2/3 innings, Bastardo is starting to get some attention as something more than just a future lefty lefty specialist, though he still has that in his back pocket, as lefty batters are currently 3-for-37 with 23 strikeouts against the 22-year-old Dominican.

Finally, reliever Scott Mathieson scheduled a visit with Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala., for a third opinion on his surgically repaired right elbow. Mathieson saw Dr. Lew Yocum in Los Angeles as well as the Phillies' doctors. Even though he has some discomfort, he appears to be going through the natural progression of recovery.

"It's not a setback," Steve Nowryta, the Phillies director of the minor leagues, said. "(Mathieson) wanted to get another opinion, and that's understandable."

Cardenas placed on DL
April 29, 2008 — phuturephillies

Per Baseball America’s weekly transactions update yesterday, Cardenas has been placed on the 7 day DL. Hopefully Jeff can give us an update, but it was probably a precautionary move more than anything.
Posted in Cardenas, Adrian, Transactions.

[tbagnu]

a'ight!! let's pray howards bat gets effin hot and we can shut them mutts fans up!!

[cougarjake13]

This caught my eye a couple days ago:



Obviously, I don't think Maddux would come East, and definitely not to Citizens Bank Park...however, I wouldn't mind Wolf and Iguchi.

Although I think the Phillies may be tired of dealing with Wolf. The last two years, they offered him better contracts than the teams he signed with and he snubbed them both times.

Iguchi, though, genuinely wanted to come back, wouldn't have been able to sign until May 15th because of the details of his contract and release. He would have played 3B had they signed him. However, now whether or not the Phillies would have interest may be a point to consider.

The Phils seem pretty happy with their bench of Werth, Dobbs, Coste, Bruntlett, and Taguchi.


i wouldnt mind the mets signing maddux

[K.C.]

i wouldnt mind the mets signing maddux

They sure as hell could use him.

I don't think he'd leave San Diego, though...not sure if he has a no-trade or not.

[cougarjake13]

They sure as hell could use him.

I don't think he'd leave San Diego, though...not sure if he has a no-trade or not.

he may not wanna leave

but if the pads decide theyre out and a contending team wants him he may be willing

[K.C.]

he may not wanna leave

but if the pads decide theyre out and a contending team wants him he may be willing

Well, he'd be a nice pickup for any team.

[K.C.]

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/fantasy/08/29/better.worse/p1_082907_burrell_si.jpg

The man is a GOD!


Larry Andersen, I think, had a stroke during the call on the radio broadcast. I had the sound on the TV turned down because Wheeler was aggravating me.

Sorry I missed Harry's call, but Larry's mini stroke was worth it.

[cougarjake13]

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/fantasy/08/29/better.worse/p1_082907_burrell_si.jpg

The man is a GOD!


Larry Andersen, I think, had a stroke during the call on the radio broadcast. I had the sound on the TV turned down because Wheeler was aggravating me.

Sorry I missed Harry's call, but Larry's mini stroke was worth it.

is this the same pat burrell that most philly fans hated with a passion just a short while ago ???

[K.C.]

is this the same pat burrell that most philly fans hated with a passion just a short while ago ???

Didn't you guys boo Santana after his FIRST start?

Besides, I've always been a Burrell fan. Any guy that gives you 30 HRs, 100 RBI, and 100 Walks a season is ok in my book. While he's deserved criticism at times, the people who REALLY ripped him and booed him were the asshole sports radio, 'I hate everything' fans.

The couldn't care less about anything other than bitching.

[cougarjake13]

Didn't you guys boo Santana after his FIRST start?

Besides, I've always been a Burrell fan. Any guy that gives you 30 HRs, 100 RBI, and 100 Walks a season is ok in my book. While he's deserved criticism at times, the people who REALLY ripped him and booed him were the asshole sports radio, 'I hate everything' fans.

The couldn't care less about anything other than bitching.

we did yeh

but for the longest time burrell was babe ruth against the mets and bay huey against everyone else

[K.C.]

we did yeh

but for the longest time burrell was babe ruth against the mets and bay huey against everyone else

That's a bit of a half-truth.

He's never had the best runners in scoring position average (until this season), but driving in runs is driving in runs, and he's good for 100 a season. Padding a lead is an important part of the game, especially when you play in Citizens Bank Park and have pitching as bad as the Phillies have had aat times.

But what people never understood, and they wouldn't if they didn't follow the team, is that from 2005 right up until this year, he was playing through wrist, foot, and leg injuries. I would say that has as much to do with how streaky he's been throughout his career as losing his mechanics from time to time.

Just look at the way the guy runs now...it's painful to watch him try and run out groundballs.


He's as healthy as he's been since he first came up, this season.


He's never going to be what he projected to be out of college, but again, how do you knock a guy who as a 3rd or 4th offensive option in the lineup, drives in 30 HRs and 100 RBI.

[Towelie]

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0ger0uyfMTbv4/340x.jpg

[scottinnj]

Taking the Giants 2 out of three is a good way to start May.

Edit: Let's go Brewers! Go Dbacks!

[K.C.]

It's a good thing they got the win today, because I have a feeling next week is going to be a beat down.

They face Max Scherzer, Randy Johnson, Micah Owings, Brandon Webb, and Tim Lincecum again in a five day span.

[cougarjake13]

It's a good thing they got the win today, because I have a feeling next week is going to be a beat down.

They face Max Scherzer, Randy Johnson, Micah Owings, Brandon Webb, and Tim Lincecum again in a five day span.

jesus christ thats brutal...i say 3-2 for the fightin phils

[K.C.]

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8634/standingsxl8.jpg

The nice thing about this is that even though the Marlins and Mets have games in hand, all three teams are tied in the loss column.

So the Marlins would have to win both of their games in hand to tie...the Mets would have to win all three of theirs.

Good position to be in.

Looks like the Nats righted the ship after their awful April.

[hammersavage]

I think bringing up 'games in hand' on May 6th is a just a little premature...

[K.C.]

I think bringing up 'games in hand' on May 6th is a just a little premature...

Scoreboard watching in May is premature too...but gotta fill the time some way.

[cougarjake13]

Scoreboard watching in May is premature too...but gotta fill the time some way.

true but it really does mean nothing at this point

as the phils demonstrated last year