2009 Season - Defending WS Champion Philadelphia Phillies Thread

[scottinnj]

I blame this man.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/luxa1/hurricane.jpg

His name is now Jinxy McJinxerton.



Worst.




Jinx.








Ever.

[ChimneyFish]

wimps, play in the rain

One of the plethora of reasons that baseball stinks.

[biozombie]

I'd like to blame Vernon Odom for no apparent reason, but the racial connotations of such a thing are just a bummer these days.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

One of the plethora of reasons that baseball stinks.

why even have cleats, they are meant for the wet grass and mud

might as well play in loafers



Football > All


that is all

[scottinnj]

dirty savages (http://www.scoresreport.com/2008/10/27/here%E2%80%99s-a-shock-%E2%80%93-philly-fans-not-being-good-hosts/)

Go screw Mets fan.


Bomb a sold-out Shea Stadium, America's IQ average goes up 30 percent.

[TheMojoPin]

One of the plethora of reasons that baseball stinks.

As opposed to the gargantuan multitudes of reasons as to why it rules.

[TheMojoPin]

why even have cleats, they are meant for the wet grass and mud

You've done enough tonight, Jinxy. We don't need anymore comedy from you.

[ChimneyFish]

One of the plethora of reasons that baseball stinks.

why even have cleats, they are meant for the wet grass and mud

might as well play in loafers



Football > All


that is all




Never even thought about the cleats.
That's funny.

As far as the football thing, it's the only sport I can actually sit down and watch an entire game, so I couldn't agree more.

And they don't quit playing in the middle of the game because the field got wet.

[scottinnj]

As opposed to the gargantuan multitudes of reasons as to why it rules.

Baseball rules. Football/Basketball is just to keep the athletes in shape for spring training.

[TheMojoPin]

Never even thought about the cleats.

Clearly not, otherwise you would have realized the obvious...sports where the players wear cleats all differ from each other as to why they wear the cleats and, stay with me now, WHAT TYPE OF CLEATS THEY WEAR.

OK, back to not thinking. Git, you li'l scamp!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Mojo wants to marry Baseball


that is all

[ChimneyFish]

Clearly not, otherwise you would have realized the obvious...sports where the players wear cleats all differ from each other as to why they wear the cleats and, stay with me now, WHAT TYPE OF CLEATS THEY WEAR.

OK, back to not thinking. Git, you li'l scamp!

It's obvious it's not for scary things like running on wet dirt.

Oh, feets don't fail me now!!!!

[dino_electropolis]

I wished sooooo much that Philly would have won it by a rainout in the 7th.

It would have the gayest Championship victory ever, and it would belong to Philly.

And Philly gets there championship, so everyone is happy.....

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Selig is at a Press Conference explaining rule 214.6 or whatever # it is


sooo gheyyyyyyyyyyy


just fucking play

[ChimneyFish]

But seriously, folks........I place all the blame solely on the shoulders of one Vai Sikahema.

[ChimneyFish]

Is that the one where all the players have to wear silk panties under their uniforms????

[UpperEastSideDave]

The second that Tampa scored I said to my chick " well now they can call the game..."

If this game were played before 2003, they would not have counted the run in the top of the 6th, and the Phils would have won.

Either way were going to see a parade up Broad street... Get struttin! If nothing else I'll be sure to catch all you bastards on 2 street after the Mummers parade on Jan 1st....:drunk:

[TheMojoPin]

It's obvious it's not for scary things like running on wet dirt.

Oh, feets don't fail me now!!!!

I love the silly "baseball sucks because it isn't played in the rain" arguments.

Rain totally fucks up both the hitting and the pitching. The running the bases and people getting hurt in the field is secondary because odds are it's not gonna get to that point because the pitchers are throwing garage and the hitters are just smacking soggy shots that don't go anywhere.

Why am I even bothering? You're some kind of maniac that doesn't like baseball.

[ChimneyFish]

Why am I even bothering?

A need to make others feel bad about themselves????

[scottinnj]

Hey I just saw a news blurb on the ESPN scroll saying the Rockies are interested in trading Matt Holliday.

Any chance we're gonna talk to Armagost about getting him into a Phillies uniform to replace Pat?

[TheMojoPin]

A need to make others feel bad about themselves????

True...that is rather delicious.

[ChimneyFish]

:laugh:

[TripleSkeet]

I want Bud Seligs head on a fucking stick.

[K.C.]

CUNT FUCK PISS DICK!!!!!!!!

Fuck the fucking MLB Umps. They wait until the Rays tie it up to call this game????? FUCK YOU!!!!!!

I was standing outsdie McFadden's with a cooler of beer and four buddies. Fuck YOU!!!!!

I'm back up tonight, if they play.

[TripleSkeet]

Biggest pussy move Ive ever seen. They waited for Tampa to tie it up, then called the game without giving the Phillies a chance to bat and let Tampa try and field in that slop.

And they did it just so they didnt have to stop the game with the Phils leading, schedule a day to finish the game, and have to explain why they were going to ignore the MLB rule that stated the Phils were supposed to be declared the winners.

I had no problem with them restarting the game another day, but at least let vboth teams have equal at bats before stopping the game. Its not like it just started raining. It had been like that for a fucking hour.

And anyone that says "You wouldnt want to win a World Series in a game that was called because of rain" doesnt know dick. I could and would take that title in a fucking heartbeat. To be completely honest if a genie said all I had to do to guarantee a Phillies World Series victory was to kill one of you, Id slice ANYBODY ON HERES fucking throat without batting an eyelash. THATS how bad I want to see my city win a championship.

[Philly Franko]

I was there Sunday at the Eagles Game , we were already Chanting.. Lets GO PHILLIES !!! in the 4the QTR...great gm 4...Back up for gm 5 and Bud the retard Selig kills our momentum..he should run for president of USA...he is better then Obama..sorry Earl...beer parking parties in big corporate tent after gm was called? It was a nice day is all i can say. 50 mph winds , rain till 9 or 10 pm tues with a wind chill in the 20,s...Help Ronnie...does god really hate philly? i will be there tues wed or till thanksgiving if i must. Tampon Bay had to vacate there Hotel in philly no rooms available for all the TB team and family so they drove in busses to wilmington De to stay for a day or 2 or 3...till we beat there grouper eatin azzes...we want a Parade....mummers and all... Ling ling ling.ling a ling ling ling... etc Dance....etc...ronnie why Philly?

[skyscraper]

There are a bunch of whiners out there saying that the series is tainted now because of the suspension. look, I'm frustrated by it too, but rain delays and suspensions are part of the game. the better team will bounce back from it and win.
I wouldn't have wanted the phillies to be declared winners after 6 innings, that would be pussified. you have to play all 9.

[KingGeno]

I agree skyscraper. Obviously you shouldn't win a series on a 6 inning game. The fact of the matter was that the ame should have been suspended in the 5th when it took 30 mins between halves and clay had tobe brought out and spread. Gotta suck for people who lost or destroyed their tickets. Meh.

[Furtherman]

I'll wait to strut tonight. No big deal.

[RAAMONE]

I love the silly "baseball sucks because it isn't played in the rain" arguments.

Rain totally fucks up both the hitting and the pitching. The running the bases and people getting hurt in the field is secondary because odds are it's not gonna get to that point because the pitchers are throwing garage and the hitters are just smacking soggy shots that don't go anywhere.

Why am I even bothering? You're some kind of maniac that doesn't like baseball.

and rain doesnt alter football at all...it actually helps the qb get a better grip on the ball and the soggy feild is great for running and the ball never slips outta the wr hands cause rain is like glue

[skyscraper]

even worse would have been to call the game in the 4th. then you would have had to start the game all over because it wasn't official yet, and then you lose cole hammels.

[KingGeno]

I heard this morning that both teams wanted to play the game earlier in the night because of the weather. Fox blocked that request. So who knows.

Drizzle isn't much of a problem, but the downpour last night was. There is a significant decrease in mobility and an increase in injury possibilities. When you pitch and bat you are moving all around. You aren't just standing there like a statue. You can turn an ankle, pull your back out from not being able to twist you feet in the sand while swinging, or take a ball right in the face when it gets lost in the rain.

The moment they broke out clay and sand it should have been rain delayed. It's rare for this to happen during a World Series game, but it did.

[skyscraper]

I heard this morning that both teams wanted to play the game earlier in the night because of the weather. Fox blocked that request. So who knows.

Drizzle isn't much of a problem, but the downpour last night was. There is a significant decrease in mobility and an increase in injury possibilities. When you pitch and bat you are moving all around. You aren't just standing there like a statue. You can turn an ankle, pull your back out from not being able to twist you feet in the sand while swinging, or take a ball right in the face when it gets lost in the rain.

The moment they broke out clay and sand it should have been rain delayed. It's rare for this to happen during a World Series game, but it did.

imagine the 1911 series: Philly A's and NY Giants. held up for 6 days because of rain. The A's eventually won it though, so it had a happy ending (not necessarily the Jimmy Norton kind).

[KingGeno]

Word.

Would people be as upset if the game wasn't tied? Perhaps our Phillies could have knocked in a few runs from the 8 they left stranded on base.

[skyscraper]

Word.

Would people be as upset if the game wasn't tied? Perhaps our Phillies could have knocked in a few runs from the 8 they left stranded on base.

9, but who's counting? :tongue::thumbdown:

[K.C.]

I think Ron is right.

God took the weekend off, and now's back and realized what was about to happen...

[KingGeno]

He jest rested his big God hog on the North Pole, and showered us with his love over and over and over. Snowing like crazy here right now.

[K.C.]

He jest rested his big God hog on the North Pole, and showered us with his love over and over and over. Snowing like crazy here right now.

Now all we need is for Bud Selig to decide that because the game won't be played tonight, either, they're moving the suspended game back to Tampa.

[dino_electropolis]

Game is in milwaukee.

And winning a world series by rainout would be the gayest thing ever, which would have been perfect for the phills

[skyscraper]

Biggest pussy move Ive ever seen. They waited for Tampa to tie it up, then called the game without giving the Phillies a chance to bat and let Tampa try and field in that slop.

And they did it just so they didnt have to stop the game with the Phils leading, schedule a day to finish the game, and have to explain why they were going to ignore the MLB rule that stated the Phils were supposed to be declared the winners.

I had no problem with them restarting the game another day, but at least let vboth teams have equal at bats before stopping the game. Its not like it just started raining. It had been like that for a fucking hour.

And anyone that says "You wouldnt want to win a World Series in a game that was called because of rain" doesnt know dick. I could and would take that title in a fucking heartbeat. To be completely honest if a genie said all I had to do to guarantee a Phillies World Series victory was to kill one of you, Id slice ANYBODY ON HERES fucking throat without batting an eyelash. THATS how bad I want to see my city win a championship.


I know dick (mod quote?) and I would not have wanted that game to be called in the 6th and have the phillies declared the winner that way. that would be way weak.

[K.C.]

Game is in milwaukee.

And winning a world series by rainout would be the gayest thing ever, which would have been perfect for the phills

They should have never started the game, or started the game earlier (which all the players on both sides asked MLB to do, but FOX refused, because of their TV rights).

It just shows you who really runs MLB.

This is an incredibly bad break for the Phillies.

[TheMojoPin]

Even if the Rays hadn't tied it up, they never would have called the game. There's no rule for that in the WS, and they're not going to end the freakin' WS on a game called for rain.

[K.C.]

Even if the Rays hadn't tied it up, they never would have called the game. There's no rule for that in the WS, and they're not going to end the freakin' WS on a game called for rain.

Nobody's saying they should have.

But they should have started the game an hour or so earlier, or never played it.

Now the Phillies lose Hamels, while the Rays can comeback with Shields or Garza when play resumes.

But because everything revolves around FOX, it gets screwed up.

[TheMojoPin]

Nobody's saying they should have.

But they should have started the game an hour or so earlier, or never played it.

Now the Phillies lose Hamels, while the Rays can comeback with Shields or Garza when play resumes.

But because everything revolves around FOX, it gets screwed up.

Oh, no, I totally agree about starting it earlier or calling the whole thing off...I'm just saying it in response to the people here and in the watching thread who keep discusisng the hypothetical issue of winning the WS due to a called game. That would never happen.

[KingGeno]

It totally screwed the team and fans all over the place. Anyone that says otherwise is a dumbass. Put your team in our place. The MLB being totally manhandled and owned by Fox should be something that every baseball fans is livid about, regardless of the team you cheer for.

[K.C.]

Ronnie nailed it.

This is exactly what it felt like walking away from the stadium last night

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[King Hippos Bandaid]

this game isnt gonna be played till Wednesday


stayed tuned for some awful fox tv shows with a mix of false hope from buck and McCarver

[KingGeno]

Word on the radio waves is that they will be calling the game within the next hour. Not surprised.

[skyscraper]

this game isnt gonna be played till Wednesday


stayed tuned for some awful fox tv shows with a mix of false hope from buck and McCarver

I just read in the inquirer that mccarver wants to start the game over from the beginning. so in other words, he wants the phillies to lose the advantage of cole hammels on the mound for what could be the deciding game.
what a cock sucking, cum slurping, feltching, genital-warted limp-dick, motherfucking, cunt slapping, subhuman pussified asshole licking, gloryhole blowjobbing son of a bitch.
here is the link: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/columnists/20081028_Paul_Hagen__McCarver_backs_starting_over_ for_Game_5.html

[K.C.]

I will personally lead the angry mob that will burn down the Philadelphia FOX affiliate if the Phillies lose this game.

Nothing infuriates me more than their refusal to allow that game to be started at 6 or 7 PM

[TripleSkeet]

There are a bunch of whiners out there saying that the series is tainted now because of the suspension. look, I'm frustrated by it too, but rain delays and suspensions are part of the game. the better team will bounce back from it and win.
I wouldn't have wanted the phillies to be declared winners after 6 innings, that would be pussified. you have to play all 9.

Heres my problem...you let Tampa bat 6 innings in those conditions? The the fucking Phillies shouldve gotten 6 at bats too. You dont give one team an advantage over another, and thats what they did.

The game shouldve been stopped after 5. The reason they let Tampa keep playing is because they not only wanted but NEEDED a tie score. See the MLB rulebook says that if they stop the game with Philly leading, then they should have been declared the winner. Now agree with it or not, if Selig didnt do that he would have to explain that he was IGNORING the rules. So having Tampa tie that game basically got him off the hook and there was no way he was giving Philly a chance to take the lead.

And you say nobody would want a World Series win that came because they stopped the game after 5 innings. Try telling me that stupid bullshit if they somehow lose this series. Because I dont fucking care how they get it, I want a championship.

[TheMojoPin]

The game shouldve been stopped after 5. The reason they let Tampa keep playing is because they not only wanted but NEEDED a tie score. See the MLB rulebook says that if they stop the game with Philly leading, then they should have been declared the winner. Now agree with it or not, if Selig didnt do that he would have to explain that he was IGNORING the rules. So having Tampa tie that game basically got him off the hook and there was no way he was giving Philly a chance to take the lead.

No. The playoff and WS rules are much more nebulous than the regular season rules. They don't have to, nor would they, call a WS game and declare a premature winner, especially not in the game that ptoentialy decides the whole thing. Even if the game was official and Philly was still leading they still would have suspended the gam ad completed it later. Nobody's ignoring any rules. I agree it was stupid that they didn't play the game earlier, cancel it altogether or suspend it earlier than they did, but there's zero chance the game would have been called and a winner declared without 9 innings having been played.

[Earlshog]

PHILADELPHIA -- The World Series won't resume until Wednesday night at the earliest.

With rain still falling in Philadelphia, Major League Baseball decided not to attempt to complete Game 5 between the Phillies and Tampa Bay Rays on Tuesday night. The completion of the game tentatively was scheduled for 8:37 p.m. ET on Wednesday.

"While obviously we want to finish Game 5 as soon as possible, the forecast for today does not allow for us to continue the game this evening," commissioner Bud Selig said. "We are closely monitoring tomorrow's forecast and will continue to monitor the weather on an hourly basis. We will advise fans as soon as we are able to make any final decisions with respect to tomorrow's schedule."

The game, played in increasingly heavy rain, was suspended Monday following a 30-minute delay with the Phillies and Rays tied 2-2 after 5½ innings. It was the first time a World Series game that began wasn't played to completion on the same day.

Philadelphia leads the series 3-1 and is hoping to close out its second title, its first since 1980.

[KingGeno]

Inch of snow arleady just north of Philly. I'm sure that will be happening around rush hour in Philly too.

[Snoogans]

are the phillies fans standing outside of citizen's bank park booing the snow?

[Furtherman]

are the phillies fans standing outside of citizen's bank park booing the snoogans?

I hope so!

[KingGeno]

I can't imagine what it would be like in Boston, New York, etc. if the same situation hit there. It blows.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

oh if the game resumes on Wednesday, the ratings will be dismal

The Knicks play the Heat in their home opener

[Snoogans]

oh if the game resumes on Wednesday, the ratings will be dismal

The Knicks play the Heat in their home opener

Fughettaboutit, Knicks are fuggin goin all da way

[tbagnu]

i believe it was 3skeet who mentioned it before, they should have let the phillies bat in the bottom of the 6th so the rays would have to play in similar slop!! fuck fox and selig!!

[K.C.]

Phil Sheridan nailed it.

Tainted by television
By Phil Sheridan
Inquirer Sports Columnist

Game 5 of the World Series became a farce the moment Jimmy Rollins - one of the finest defensive shortstops of his generation - dropped that zigging, zagging pop-up in the fifth inning.

This doesn't happen to Rollins, an all-star and the reigning National League MVP, in playable baseball conditions.

"When you look up into the rain, it's pretty hard to catch a ball," Phillies starter Cole Hamels said.

In April or May, in June or July, in August or September, the umpires would have stopped play at that moment - if they hadn't already. Pop-ups that drop toward unseeing eyes can seriously injure a player. It was pouring rain. Pools of water were forming in front of the infielders. Pitchers were cleaning their spikes after every pitch.

In October, the game went on. And Major League Baseball should be ashamed for allowing its most important game of the year to deteriorate into an embarrassing mess because of slavish obedience to its pimp, the Fox Television Network.

Simply put, Game 5 is hopelessly tainted by what transpired between the time the game should have been called and the middle of the sixth inning, when it was finally suspended.

Whatever happens when play resumes, whether the Phillies celebrate their first World Series championship or the Rays force a Game 6 in Florida, MLB can't justify its decision or its decision-making process.

This night was different from Saturday, when a rain delay caused Game 3 to begin 91 minutes late, at about 10 p.m. That game ended at nearly 2 a.m., but it was played fairly and under perfectly acceptable conditions.

Those things are going to happen in outdoor ballparks in the Northeast in late October. It rained all day Saturday, and the best time to play the game was, in fact, when it was played.

The first problem here is TV's insistence on scheduling these games for 8:30 p.m. or even later. There are plenty of lovely autumn afternoons - and yesterday was one of them - that give way to cold and blustery evenings. When baseball, like other sports, sold its soul to the networks and their craven need for prime-time sports programming, it created a situation where young fans couldn't stay up to watch the most important games of the year.

There is no mechanism for the baseball commissioner, Bud Selig, to look at the weather reports, discern that a night game is doomed, and shift the start time to late afternoon.

That would inconvenience fans, but so does suspending the game for a day. That would be tough on players, but so does suspending the game for a day.

If the fans and players were the priorities, last night's game would have been stopped much sooner. They aren't. Television is, and television won't allow its prime-time program to be moved to 5 p.m.

Rollins, rain pouring into his face, dropped that pop-up in the top of the fifth. The play was rather nastily ruled an error, as if it had occurred in acceptable conditions. Hamels got out of that inning without allowing a run. The Phillies led, 2-1, in the middle of the fifth.

At that moment, a regular-season game would become official. A rainout would mean the game was over, with the Phillies winning.

"This is not a way to end a World Series," Selig said. "I would not allow a World Series to end this way."

Selig is right on that point. The problem is, it appears MLB allowed play to continue in unplayable conditions because the Phillies had a lead. It seems like more than a coincidence that play was suspended after the top of the sixth, when the Rays tied the game on a base hit by Carlos Pena.

That run was scored by B.J. Upton, who hit a two-out grounder up the middle. Rollins ranged to his left, caught the ball deep in the hole and turned to fire a throw to first. The ball slipped out of his hand and Upton was safe.

Now Upton is fast. It may well be that Rollins wouldn't have been able to get him. But it's also impossible to know whether the slick infield slowed Rollins down as well as caused him to lose his grip on the ball. If he throws Upton out, the inning is over.

Upton scored from second on Pena's single to left. Pat Burrell's throw was on target but bounced in the muck in front of home plate. Would a cleaner bounce have allowed Carlos Ruiz to get the ball sooner?

Maybe these are long shots. The point is, no one knows. What we do know is that this game was being played in unacceptable conditions. That's not my opinion. It's Selig's, too. He ordered the game suspended just moments later.

"The weather, it kept changing," Selig said.

Well, yes, sir. We call that Earth.

The tie made suspending the game a lot easier and more convenient. It sure looks as if Major League Baseball let an unplayable game play on long enough to make things easier.

And that's just shameful.

[K.C.]

Every time I see Bud Selig's face, I want to punch my TV.

I loathe that man.

And the arrogance of this dick, to say "I would do nothing different today than I did last night" makes this all the more infuriating.

And it's a flat out lie that he didn't know the rain would be this bad.

Every radar has a solid sheet of green covering Philadelphia and everything around it within a 500 mile radius.

And now the Rays have descended on Delaware's beloved Hotel DuPont to stay in...I want that trash out of my state.

[TripleSkeet]

Even if the Rays hadn't tied it up, they never would have called the game. There's no rule for that in the WS, and they're not going to end the freakin' WS on a game called for rain.

Actually there is a rule in place for that. And the rule states that if one team is leading after 5 innings and the game is called for rain then that team is supposed to be declared the winner. In baseball the rules of the playoffs are exactly the same as the rules of the regular season.

The difference is there is also a rule in place that states that the commissioner of baseball can change the rules as he sees fit. He mentioned this last night.

There was also a rule in place until 2003 that said that games can only be suspended after the bottom of an inning. Which is the way it should be. If that rule were still in place they would erase the entire top of the 6th inning and thats where the game would resume.

And I dont care what anyone says, Im tired of waiting. After everything we've been through I would take a championship from a rainout game, and wouldnt consider it gay or tainted in the least. Fuck, if the Phils lost Game 5 and the entire Tampa Bay team died in a plane crash going back for Game 6 not only would I accept the the trophy, I would fucking carry it over my head down the length of Broad St. with a smile from ear to ear the entire time. THATS how fucking desperate I am for this city to win a title.

[scottinnj]

I've been angry all day. I went to bed at 3:30 am angry and woke up at 8 am angry.

FOX sucks sweaty, unwashed tranny balls full of hepatitis. And Bud Selig is Fox's "puffer" boy.

[TheMojoPin]

Actually there is a rule in place for that. And the rule states that if one team is leading after 5 innings and the game is called for rain then that team is supposed to be declared the winner. In baseball the rules of the playoffs are exactly the same as the rules of the regular season.

Thanks, I know the rulls for a called game due to weather.

The difference is there is also a rule in place that states that the commissioner of baseball can change the rules as he sees fit. He mentioned this last night.

Which is why everyone knew there was zero chace of the game being called due to rain. It has nothing to do with Selig...no commissioner would allow a WS game to be called due to rain, especially if it's the deciding one of the series.

And I dont care what anyone says, Im tired of waiting. After everything we've been through I would take a championship from a rainout game, and wouldnt consider it gay or tainted in the least.

Luckily, we'll never have to find out since a WS game will never be called due to rain.

[Snoogans]

i get that maybe it shoulda been stopped earlier then it was, and that they seemed to wait until it was tied. But I dont think its an issue that its suspended. NO FUCKIN CHANCE, even if they stop it phillies up 1, do they EVER call a world series game before 9 innings. NO FUCKIN CHANCE

[TripleSkeet]

Thanks, I know the rulls for a called game due to weather.



Which is why everyone knew there was zero chace of the game being called due to rain. It has nothing to do with Selig...no commissioner would allow a WS game to be called due to rain, especially if it's the deciding one of the series.



Luckily, we'll never have to find out since a WS game will never be called due to rain.

Well if you know the rules, dont say theres no rule in place for the World Series. It is in place for the World Series.

And no, everyone did not know Selig was going to make the game continue. How can you just assume the commissioner is going to ignore the rules of the game? I was with a group of about 40 people and none of us were sure how they were planning on handling the rain. If the rule says the games over, its not crazy to think theyd follow it.

I think the biggest reason people thought he may not continue the game another day is because the fucking douchebag waited so long to stop it in the first place. If he had every intention of continuing then why the fuck would he waste almost a half hour letting the grounds crew spread clay all over the pitchers mound????

[Snoogans]

lets just all be calm since you know the phillies have this LOCKED UP. NO chance they lose

[TheMojoPin]

Well if you know the rules, dont say theres no rule in place for the World Series. It is in place for the World Series.

Technically, I guess, but nobody in their right mind assumes it would ever be enforced in what is potentially the final game of the WS. It's the World Series and baseball is a business.

And no, everyone did not know Selig was going to make the game continue. How can you just assume the commissioner is going to ignore the rules of the game? I was with a group of about 40 people and none of us were sure how they were planning on handling the rain. If the rule says the games over, its not crazy to think theyd follow it.

Nobody who had anything actually to do with the outcome of that game thought for a second the deciding game of the WS would be called. They all know the commissioner has the final say on how the game is run and that no commissioner, Selig or otherwise, would allow the WS to be finished by a called game.

I think the biggest reason people thought he may not continue the game another day is because the fucking douchebag waited so long to stop it in the first place. If he had every intention of continuing then why the fuck would he waste almost a half hour letting the grounds crew spread clay all over the pitchers mound????

I totally agree that Selig handled the timing of the whole thing horribly. The weather report was obvious going into the game and he just rolled over for Fox. The game should have been postponed before it even started, and at the least suspended much earlier than it was.

[K.C.]

Nobody who had anything actually to do with the outcome of that game thought for a second the deciding game of the WS would be called. They all know the commissioner has the final say on how the game is run and that no commissioner, Selig or otherwise, would allow the WS to be finished by a called game.



I totally agree that Selig handled the timing of the whole thing horribly. The weather report was obvious going into the game and he just rolled over for Fox. The game should have been postponed before it even started, and at the least suspended much earlier than it was.

Both teams have said they were told in meetings on Saturday, when weather first became a potential issue that there would be no rain shortened outcomes in the World Series.

So it wasn't an issue. That decision was already made.

These are the problems with this, as far as I can see:

1) The teams petitioned the league to move the start time up, FOX said no.
2) The game should have never started, once it had already started raining before game time, and there appeared to be no end in sight.
3) Once the game was started, and Selig came to the conclusion that they he didn't want the teams to play four innings, to postpone the game, to start from scratch again on another day (since it wouldn't be official), the game should have been suspended at the end of the 5th when the Phillies were leading 2-1. Nobody would have said a word about it. The Phillies already knew that this was MLB's decision before this came up.

That top of the 6th was a joke, and it was blatantly obvious to everyone that they were praying the Rays would tie the game so they could suspend it and not have to deal with the potential backlash of suspending the game, when the original rule is that it should be called.

As a result, they made a bad situation that much worse. I don't think people in Philadelphia are even really complaining about them saying they would not call the game an let the Phillies win 2-1 in five.

I think people get why that would be bad.

But people are absolutely pissed about them playing that extra inning, where Hamels couldn't even plant on the mound, Rollins could field a ground ball he gets 99% of the time...the whole thing was a joke.

[K.C.]

That top of the 6th was a joke, and it was blatantly obvious to everyone that they were praying the Rays would tie the game so they could suspend it and not have to deal with the potential backlash of suspending the game, when the original rule is that it should be called.

As a result, they made a bad situation that much worse. I don't think people in Philadelphia are even really complaining about them saying they would not call the game an let the Phillies win 2-1 in five.

I think people get why that would be bad.

But people are absolutely pissed about them playing that extra inning, where Hamels couldn't even plant on the mound, Rollins could field a ground ball he gets 99% of the time...the whole thing was a joke.

And Selig is the most spineless weasel because of this particular part of it.

That douchebag stands up there and tries to put on this facade of "I call my own shots" and "this is not a democracy."

Hey Bud, if you're really this man's man of a commissioner you claim to be, why didn't you have the balls to suspend the game in the 5th, stand up in front of the press, and say "Look, the Phillies are winning...if it was the regular season, yeah, it'd be postponed, but this is to protect the integrity of the game."

Spineless!

[Snoogans]

And Selig is the most spineless weasel because of this particular part of it.

That douchebag stands up there and tries to put on this facade of "I call my own shots" and "this is not a democracy."

Hey Bud, if you're really this man's man of a commissioner you claim to be, why didn't you have the balls to suspend the game in the 5th, stand up in front of the press, and say "Look, the Phillies are winning...if it was the regular season, yeah, it'd be postponed, but this is to protect the integrity of the game."

Spineless!

but if it wasnt for selig, we wouldnt have had 10 awesome years of steroided up monsters hitting GLORIOUS home runs.


BRING BACK THE ROIDS, BRING BACK THE ROIDS, BRING BACK THE ROIDS

[skyscraper]

And Selig is the most spineless weasel because of this particular part of it.

That douchebag stands up there and tries to put on this facade of "I call my own shots" and "this is not a democracy."

Hey Bud, if you're really this man's man of a commissioner you claim to be, why didn't you have the balls to suspend the game in the 5th, stand up in front of the press, and say "Look, the Phillies are winning...if it was the regular season, yeah, it'd be postponed, but this is to protect the integrity of the game."

Spineless!

even more, he should not have started the game in the first place. he had good weather reports, he knew what was coming, but because the teams wanted to play, the gm's wanted to play, the umpires, the grounds crew, everyone said they wanted to play. even though he knew better, he caved to everyone's wishes. and the very thing he was afraid would happen did. he has no one to blame but himself.

[K.C.]

Steve Phillips, of all people, just made a pretty good point.

They could have played this game last night. There was not a trace of rain from 6:30 on.


Interestingly enough, though, Tuesday nights is when FOX airs its highest rated TV show, House.

Hmmmmm....


From the looks of things now, the weather conditions will be worse at the start of this game than it would have been had they started last night.

[Snoogans]

Steve Phillips, of all people, just made a pretty good point.

They could have played this game last night. There was not a trace of rain from 6:30 on.


Interestingly enough, though, Tuesday nights is when FOX airs its highest rated TV show, House.

Hmmmmm....


From the looks of things now, the weather conditions will be worse at the start of this game than it would have been had they started last night.

but on the bright side, you got to see house cure another disease only he can cure and no one else even knows what it is

[TripleSkeet]

Steve Phillips, of all people, just made a pretty good point.

They could have played this game last night. There was not a trace of rain from 6:30 on.


Interestingly enough, though, Tuesday nights is when FOX airs its highest rated TV show, House.

Hmmmmm....


From the looks of things now, the weather conditions will be worse at the start of this game than it would have been had they started last night.

The rain is on its way out. Its already cleared up in the northeast and Jersey. Not sure how South Philly is right now. The weather will be fine for tonight, just cold.

[TheMojoPin]

Alright, here we go...GET IT DONE, NL.

[Friday]

oh here we are!

this is so weird.

Go Whoever!

[Hottub]

Hey Boppers!!

Let's get it on!!!

[cougarjake13]

phillies already got a run

[Hottub]

Nice. Runner in scoring position. That was a lame move to first.
Build that lead!

[Snoogans]

phillies are a lock, why even watch?

[Hottub]

Just gotta hold for 3 more.

[led37zep]

Lead comes....Lead Goes.

[Snoogans]

phillies are a lock. CANT LOSE.

[cougarjake13]

bal motherfucking delli !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cougarjake13]

who was the guy on the rays with the face mask thingy

he looked like a foot soldier in cobra commanders army

[Hottub]

Great head's up play by Hudley.
Nailed him at the plate!

[cougarjake13]

bartlett wasnt running full speed

if he was he might have scored

[cougarjake13]

Steve Phillips, of all people, just made a pretty good point.

They could have played this game last night. There was not a trace of rain from 6:30 on.


Interestingly enough, though, Tuesday nights is when FOX airs its highest rated TV show, House.

Hmmmmm....


From the looks of things now, the weather conditions will be worse at the start of this game than it would have been had they started last night.


yeh i heard him say that this morn on mike and mike


it makes you wonder

[Marc with a c]

but on the bright side, you got to see house cure another disease only he can cure and no one else even knows what it is

that isn't real, it's just a tv show.

[Hottub]

Bradford's style freaks me oot.

[cougarjake13]

Bradford's style freaks me oot.

yeh you cant blame victorino for missing that bunt

[KnoxHarrington]

Bradford's style freaks me oot.

You don't see many submariners these days. I think that sidearm delivery, like the knuckler, is probably a dying art.

[drjoek]

Bradford's style freaks me oot.



He was in moneyball he knew he didn't have the stuff to make the bigs so he learned the submarine style and he's been in the show 10 years now

[cougarjake13]

that isn't real, it's just a tv show.




http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x73/doubleplusundeadmeenu/10039_320x240.jpg

[Marc with a c]

You don't see many submariners these days. I think that sidearm delivery, like the knuckler, is probably a dying art.

almost every team has a sidearm reliever.

[Hottub]

Doubled up!!

[MacVittie]

This game would be so much more popular with the A.D.D.-ridden American public if all games were this long. I was just settling in to this game and it's the 9th already.

[Don Stugots]

You don't see many submariners these days. I think that sidearm delivery, like the knuckler, is probably a dying art.

i love the knuckler.

[IamFogHat]

I'm scared.

[KnoxHarrington]

The mummers were about to strut, but, suddenly, Neil Young is walking towards his piano.

[Jughead]

The little statue is gonna do it!!!!!

[MacVittie]

You don't see many submariners these days. I think that sidearm delivery, like the knuckler, is probably a dying art.

If you read "Moneyball," it details how Bradford developed his pitching style. His father had a stroke, I believe, which resulted in a John McCain-like condition where he cannot elevate his arms over his head, so when young Chad played catch with his father, he imitated the way his father threw. Amazing that a guy who never learned to pitch the "correct" way can make it all the way to the big leagues.

[Jughead]

2 down Hey batter hey batter

[Hottub]

That's 2!

[TheMojoPin]

Wow, I thought that was gonna tie it.

PHINISH THEM.

[Friday]

congrats, poopyfaces.

[IamFogHat]

Ho-ly shit. Ronnie's poor sphincter.

[KnoxHarrington]

http://mummersstrut.homestead.com/files/qcanima.gif

[MacVittie]

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[Jughead]

http://www.pcma.org/Images/Phillies-Logo.gif

[OGC]

PIGPILE ON THE PITCHER !!!!!

Congratulations Philly !!!

[IamFogHat]

Yes! It's strut time baby!

[Hottub]

Strut bitches!!!!!!!!!!!

[led37zep]

I'm so glad the Phillies won. Its good for Baseball, and the National League.

[TheMojoPin]

YAY, THE NL WON!!!

Boooooooooooooooo, baseball is over.

[badorties]

go phils ... even sweeter to win at home

[Reephdweller]

my Phillies Won It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Snoogans]

see i fuckin told you. You should listen to me more


to all the phillies fans, and to the 2008 Philadelphia Phillies, I say:


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[cougarjake13]

congrats

[Rthentic]

VERY VERY HapPy For RonNie B!!!!!

[MisterSmith]

NICE!!!

I'm supposed work in Philly tomorrow... if it's still there.

Congratulations Phillies!!!

[biozombie]

...maybe God doesn't have Philly after all.

"I'm going to go eat a Tastykake!!!"
-me, circa 2 minutes ago

[JerseySean]

From a Yankee fan. congrats guys.

[Devo37]

congrats to the Phillies, and F#ck the AL and their junior league DH bullsh!t.

[midwestjeff]

meh.

[Bossanova]

I'm fucking sick to my stomache

[Marc with a c]

congratulations

[Tenbatsuzen]

Fox29 is showing split screens of philly and the game... if that's any indication, the demolition of the Spectrum may happen earlier than expected.

[ahhdurr]

phillies are a lock. CANT LOSE.

non-jinxy mcjinxerton...

boooo.

I'm finally going to "Honk 4 Phillies" at the stupid house w/ the sign outside on my way home.

[hammersavage]

Congrats guys. Again, its only the people on this board and Mr. B that keep me from slitting my wrists in disgust. Enjoy.

[Bossanova]

Did I really have to watch each peice of trash's reaction? Gross

[tbagnu]

WOOOO HOOOOO!!!! Eat the dick Buck!! Eat the dick!!!!!!!!:clap::clap::clap::clap:

[Jughead]

It must be a great night enjoy..It is very hard to be the champions!!!!http://www.pcma.org/Images/Phillies-Logo.gif

[Snoogans]

I'm fucking sick to my stomache

you and your QB and baseball team are a disgrace

[Kevin]

I'm fucking sick to my stomache

Which one hurts more Boss.. This or Giants.

[Bossanova]

you and your QB and baseball team are a disgrace

That still doesn't negate that this sucks cock

[Bossanova]

Which one hurts more Boss.. This or Giants.

I almost think this. At least i know the Eagles don't have a chance. My fuck stick of a baseball team get my hopes up to be destroyed by these cunts

[Snoogans]

That still doesn't negate that this sucks cock

AT LEAST IM TRYIN TO DO SOMETHING. YOU ARE JUST SITTING THERE. PHILLY JUST WON. OUR FUTURES ARE IN QUESTION

[EddieMoscone]

You know, I wanted to hate the fact that the Phillies won (and the Mets suck), but I have to say deep down I am glad an NL team won. AL baseball is like a softball league. The Yankees should be playing Bolton's Bombers every Sunday.

Let's ask epo....Don't you like watching Brewers baseball so much better now that they are playing under the correct rules?

[Friday]

I'm so glad the Phillies won. Its good for Baseball, and the National League.

you are right... very good for the NL.

time to strut, phuckers! enjoy!


http://www.businesstravellogue.com/files/2007/12/mummers.jpg

[Bossanova]

I haven't declared the Giants yet, I certainly will not for this white trash team

[epo]

Although I'm still pissed that you beat my Brewers, congrats to the Phillies. Especially you #10. We'll always miss you.

http://www.manlyweb.com/sports/injuries/baseball/geoff-jenkins-ankle-injury3.jpg

[JerseySean]

Charlie Manuel's mom is still alive? Her and Mrs. McCain hang out and talk about the civil war together.

[spoon]

Somewhere right now Dutch Dalton is crying as he gets his 25th knee operation!

[MacVittie]

wait, Cole Hamels' wife is 30? He's only like 24. Didn't know that Cole went for the older broads.

[Snoogans]

Charlie Manuel's mom is still alive? Her and Mrs. McCain hang out and talk about the civil war together.

I heard Bill Walsh called to wish them luck

[Bossanova]

Side note. Worst tv coverage of the playoffs ever

[disneyspy]

what hte hell this thread is still goin?
snoogans and i congratulated them DAYS ago

[Snoogans]

what hte hell this thread is still goin?
snoogans and i congratulated them DAYS ago

seriously, dont you wish people would just listen?

[JimBeam]

I didn't give a shit who won the WS a week or so ago but I got so sick of hearing about the Rays and all their " don't quit " bullshit.

Even after the other day when the game was suspended all you heard was how the momentum was now in the Rays favor because Hamels couldn't get the win and wouldn't start again.

Yeah despite the fact that they were still down 3 games to 1.

Well I guess momentum took a shit all over the Rays.

On another note what's with all this shit about the city of Philadelphia not winning anything " since 1980 " ?

How often do they think they should win titles ?

Selfish bastards.

[Devo37]

unless i missed something while going to the fridge to get a drink, they just had a whole post-game world series celebration without showing any of the locker room champagne hijinks even once!!!!

they did, however, have plenty of close-ups of whatever sh!tty car the mvp won, lots of guys in suits giving speeches, and plenty of other sponsor-related bullsh!t.

way to capture the moment of a world series celebration, Fox!!! :wallbash:

p.s. and now the SAAAAAAVED BYYYYYYY ZEEEEEEEERO commercial is on as i type this. :wallbash::wallbash:

[tbagnu]

can we please spell philadelphia right in the thread title!! please!!

[Da Fish]

Great!, now baseball season is officially over. Thanks alot:furious:

At least it wasn't the Mets.

[ralphbxny]

PHILLIES BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats !!

[KnoxHarrington]

Now that Philly's off the hook as the city with a team in all 4 major leagues that has gone the longest without a championship, what city is on the hook?

I'm thinking San Francisco, if you count the San Jose Sharks as being there: no World Series for the Giants since 1954 (when they were still in New York), no Super Bowls for the '49ers since 1994 and for the Raiders since 1983, no NBA Championship for the Warriors since 1975, no Stanley Cup ever for the Sharks. That's your new Loser Town right there.

But I'd much rather live in Frisco than Philly.

[spoon]

Now that Philly's off the hook as the city with a team in all 4 major leagues that has gone the longest without a championship, what city is on the hook?

I'm thinking San Francisco, if you count the San Jose Sharks as being there: no World Series for the Giants since 1954 (when they were still in New York), no Super Bowls for the '49ers since 1994 and for the Raiders since 1983, no NBA Championship for the Warriors since 1975, no Stanley Cup ever for the Sharks. That's your new Loser Town right there.

But I'd much rather live in Frisco than Philly.

Eh, there has to be something better better out there. 1994 is pretty recent, I know I can't forget that fucking awful Superbowl!

[scottinnj]

I love my team and my city.

Philadelphia > New York City


Phillies > then any team in any league.

WORLD CHAMPIONS!

[scottinnj]

I love my team.

I love my city.


Phillies, do or die.

We may not win the WS as many times as some other teams do, but when it happens, it's always a special moment for a team that plays well together and was built over a period of 5-10 years, not bought by the Evil Empire.

And kudos to the Tampa Bay Rays. I hope history will not forget that it was not that they only won one game, but that they made the Phillies earn their four. Hell of a team, hell of a skipper.

[MacVittie]

Now that Philly's off the hook as the city with a team in all 4 major leagues that has gone the longest without a championship, what city is on the hook?

I'm thinking San Francisco, if you count the San Jose Sharks as being there: no World Series for the Giants since 1954 (when they were still in New York), no Super Bowls for the '49ers since 1994 and for the Raiders since 1983, no NBA Championship for the Warriors since 1975, no Stanley Cup ever for the Sharks. That's your new Loser Town right there.

But I'd much rather live in Frisco than Philly.

And don't forget the team that beat the Giants in 1989, the Oakland A's.

I'd say that the new loser town is Cleveland. Runners-up in the NBA championship last year, no world series since 1948, when their opponent was the Boston Braves, and no Superbowls for the Browns, unless you could the one they won as the Baltimore Ravens (which you shouldn't). And to me, Cleveland seems like it cares about it sports much more than SF, so it probably hurts them more to be without a champion in such a long time.

[K.C.]

I was at the park. I paraded down Broad Street

I have no words.

You just had to be there.

It was indescribable.

Best Phillies team I've ever seen.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

congrats K.C., u are the one Phillies fan I'm kinda happy for

maybe skyscraper also , he laughed at one of my jokes

[Da Fish]

I heard Bill Walsh called to wish them luck

nice one:lol:

Congrats Phillies, you red headed bastards.:wallbash:

[Snoogans]

glad someone fuckin got it

[K.C.]

congrats K.C., u are the one Phillies fan I'm kinda happy for

maybe skyscraper also , he laughed at one of my jokes

Thanks.

I'm just beside myself right now.

Finally just settled in to watch some of the post game festivities.

The stuff going on throughout the city was unbelievable.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Thanks.

I'm just beside myself right now.

Finally just settled in to watch some of the post game festivities.

The stuff going on throughout the city was unbelievable.


please make sure those dirty Philly looters stand clear of the Cheeesesteak Stands


think about the Children

[Snoogans]

please make sure those dirty Philly looters stand clear of the Cheeesesteak Stands


think about the Children

i believe they are our future. something well and let them lead the way

[K.C.]

please make sure those dirty Philly looters stand clear of the Cheeesesteak Stands


think about the Children

They were giving away free cheestakes at Pat's and Geno's after the game in celebration.

Fans were awesome, and pretty well behaved.

[TripleSkeet]

All I know is the Phils just won the World Series on my daughters 1st birthday. And yes I took her ass to Broad St. til about 12:30 to celebrate.

Now this Friday some other big baseball cities can watch and see what a REAL Championship parade turnout looks like.

[A.J.]

Congrats Phillies fans.

[TheGameHHH]

hey.......fuck Philly and fuck the Phillies

[K.C.]

Soooooooo....is it too soon to start talking Hot Stove?

I'm thinking DYNASTY!!!


Ok, I kid!....I kid!....




...no I don't.

[DiabloSammich]

Thank fucking god. What a night.


You know, for some reason I feel really happy for Ronnie's dad, of all people.

[A.J.]

So did the Ronnie B Cupcake work in reverse?

I guess it did.

[KingGeno]

Yahoo! Our team is so loved that there were like three other threads created. Thanks lovers!

Philadelphia Phillies! The WORLD CHAMPIONS OF BASEBALL 2008!

[skyscraper]

I didn't give a shit who won the WS a week or so ago but I got so sick of hearing about the Rays and all their " don't quit " bullshit.

Even after the other day when the game was suspended all you heard was how the momentum was now in the Rays favor because Hamels couldn't get the win and wouldn't start again.

Yeah despite the fact that they were still down 3 games to 1.

Well I guess momentum took a shit all over the Rays.

On another note what's with all this shit about the city of Philadelphia not winning anything " since 1980 " ?

How often do they think they should win titles ?

Selfish bastards.

well, how often do the yankees think they should win it? every year, right? and so they should, why else play? by selfish, do you think we should "let someone else have it every once in a while"? fuck that. you have to earn it.
we obviously are a long way from earning that sense of entitlement that the yankees have, but this is a step in the right direction. now we have to build on this.

[Furtherman]

YYYYEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!



How you feelin' Snoogans!!!!



WORLD SERIES CHAMPS.


Just had to get that out.

[spadanko]

Congrats fellas. enjoy it

[K.C.]

Just printed out my free tickets to the end of parade party at Citizens Bank Park.

They sent out an e-mail to all the season ticket holders today.

Apparently that place is going to be quite the scene. They're going to fill it for the end of the parade on Friday.

[boobieman]

Congrads to the Philly fans...and of course Mr. B...now go burn down your shit hole and start thinking about football. Maybe since Philly broke it's Champion cherry,The Gles will do it.

Congrads...SEEEYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAYYYYAAAAAA

[KingGeno]

Just printed out my free tickets to the end of parade party at Citizens Bank Park.

They sent out an e-mail to all the season ticket holders today.

Apparently that place is going to be quite the scene. They're going to fill it for the end of the parade on Friday.

What's it say, pal? My buddy is the main email contact for our season ticket package.

[Furtherman]

My only regret is that the parade is on Friday.

SATURDAY would be better.


Ahh well, I'm wearing my hat around work today. The Philly feel good feeling doesn't come around often so I'm gonna STRUT!!!!

http://mummersstrut.homestead.com/files/wenchlanima.gif

[K.C.]

What's it say, pal? My buddy is the main email contact for our season ticket package.

You can reserve seats for free for the parade celebration at the park.

First come, first serve, I think.

All seats are available.

I got section 132, or something.

[KingGeno]

Can ya send me the link via PM? I wanna get this over to my friend asap.

[K.C.]

http://media.philly.com/images/102908_philscelebrate_400.jpg

[KingGeno]

I've watched highlight 80 times over the past 10 hours, and I will continue to for the rest of my life. Harry Kalas called it like the voice of God he is. So amazing!

[KingGeno]

I got section 144! Could only get two tickets out of our three tickets we have. Hrrrmph.

[Snoogans]

YYYYEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!



How you feelin' Snoogans!!!!



WORLD SERIES CHAMPS.


Just had to get that out.

feeling pretty, good. Knicks won last night

[KingGeno]

Governor Rendell really really wants to be commisioner of MLB. Maybe one day he will be.

[Snoogans]

Governor Rendell really really wants to be commisioner of MLB. Maybe one day he will be.

sorry, he doesnt own a team. They only give the commisioner job to people who wont be fair

[KingGeno]

sorry, he doesnt own a team. They only give the commisioner job to people who wont be fair

I am aware of this. maybe one day he will own a team. Who's to say he won't?

[Snoogans]

I am aware of this. maybe one day he will own a team. Who's to say he won't?

Bud Selig

[Furtherman]

feeling pretty, good. Knicks won last night

Hey congrats!

[Snoogans]

Hey congrats!

thanks man. Big day for us. 1-0, back over 500 baby.First time in a couple years

[K.C.]

thanks man. Big day for us. 1-0, back over 500 baby.First time in a couple years

I'm happy for you, too, Snoogans.

The Knicks being over .500 is more way more of an improbable circumstance than the Phillies winning World Series #2 in 125 years.

Who'd of thunk??? The Knicks? Winning?

[Snoogans]

I'm happy for you, too, Snoogans.

The Knicks being over .500 is more way more of an improbable circumstance than the Phillies winning World Series #2 in 125 years.

Who'd of thunk??? The Knicks? Winning?

the saddest part is that this statement is probably true. I heard them say on the FAN this is the first time they are over 500 since Lenny Wilkens was coaching

[Furtherman]

Great... great...great.... back on topic....

http://media.philly.com/images/081029_PHILS_JL_04.jpg

New memories and old...

http://media.philly.com/images/20081030_paradebiggie_600.jpg

[Snoogans]

i made the thread, i can derail it if i want

[Furtherman]

http://media.philly.com/images/30phils_iraq.jpg

Members of 304th Civil Affairs Brigade, based on Woodhaven Road in Northeast Philadelphia but currently stationed in Camp Slayer, Baghdad, celebrate the Phillies as World Series champions on one of their MRAP (Mine Resistant Ambush Protected) vehicles. "We are having the name of the street on the base where our unit is located changed from Victory Lane to Broad Street in honor of the Phillies," said Col. Chuck Wogan, deputy commander of the brigade, in an e-mail from Baghdad.

[K.C.]

Nice find, Furtherman.



One thing that's pissing me off about today are people like Buster Olney, Peter Gammons, and Skip Bayliss suggesting that the weather problems in this series mean that baseball needs to move the World Series to a neutral site.

That would be the DEATH of the World Series. It'd be as utterly meaningless and lifeless as a Super Bowl.

I can't tell you how many people just reveled in the fact that they were standing OUTSIDE the stadium last night, watching the game, so they could take part in the celebration afterwards.

Why rob people of that?



Oh, and Joe Buck's call of the final out sucks a fat cock.

I hope I never hear it again. Just burn that clip, and replace it with Harry's call.

[Snoogans]

Nice find, Furtherman.



One thing that's pissing me off about today are people like Buster Olney, Peter Gammons, and Skip Bayliss suggesting that the weather problems in this series mean that baseball needs to move the World Series to a neutral site.

That would be the DEATH of the World Series. It'd be as utterly meaningless and lifeless as a Super Bowl.

I can't tell you how many people just revealed in the fact that they were standing OUTSIDE the stadium last night, watching the game, so they could take part in the celebration afterwards.

Why rob people of that?



Oh, and Joe Buck's call of the final out sucks a fat cock.

I hope I never hear it again. Just burn that clip, and replace it with Harry's call.
first on joe buck, ALWAYS awful. I cant see anyone being surprised here. He might as well change his name to Joe Buck Carey

On the other note, FUCK THAT. YOU HAVE PLAYED THE WORLD SERIES IN FUCKIN BOSTON IN OCTOBER.

over 100 years of world series, 1 fuckin game being suspended by some rain and they are ready to fuck the whole thing? WHAT THE FUCK

[K.C.]

I want to keep this as the standard thread, so whenever a mod wants to flip this to

"2008 World Series Champion Philadelphia Phillies Offseason Discussion"

feel free.


To quickly set this up...the guys that will be back:

C - Carlos Ruiz
1B - Ryan Howard
2B - Chase Utley
3B - Pedro Feliz
SS - Jimmy Rollins
LF - ????????
CF - Shane Victorino
RF - Jayson Werth

Bench:
IF - Eric Bruntlett
IF - Greg Dobbs
OF - Geoff Jenkins
OF - Matt Stairs
C - Chris Coste

SP - Cole Hamels
SP - Brett Myers
SP - Joe Blanton
SP - ??????????????
SP - J.A. Happ

CL - Brad Lidge
SU - Ryan Madson
MR - J.C. Romero
MR - Chad Durbin
MR - Clay Condrey
LR - ?????????
LR - ?????????


They need to make up their minds on Burrell and Moyer.

I love Burrell, but I would seriously entertain trading the team's top two prospects, Carlos Carrasco and Lou Marson, for Matt Holliday.

They can afford to do this. Ruiz is a perfectly adequate catcher, and they have other pitching prospects on the way.

Moyer, I'd bring back for a reasonable price. If someone outbids you for them, you tip your hat and move on.

I'd make an offer to bring back Scott Eyre for the bullpen, but I think it's unlikely they can keep him. He'll get a nice offer based on his late season success, and the shortage of lefty relievers.

Other than a potential big trade for a guy like Holliday, or a pitcher, I don't expect them to do much this offseason, because with all the arbitration guys they have, they're not going to have a TON of money to spend.

But, this team should be right in the thick again next year, and one of the favorites to win the NL again with the Cubs.

[skyscraper]

I want to keep this as the standard thread, so whenever a mod wants to flip this to

"2008 World Series Champion Philadelphia Phillies Offseason Discussion"

feel free.


To quickly set this up...the guys that will be back:

C - Carlos Ruiz
1B - Ryan Howard
2B - Chase Utley
3B - Pedro Feliz
SS - Jimmy Rollins
LF - ????????
CF - Shane Victorino
RF - Jayson Werth

Bench:
IF - Eric Bruntlett
IF - Greg Dobbs
OF - Geoff Jenkins
OF - Matt Stairs
C - Chris Coste

SP - Cole Hamels
SP - Brett Myers
SP - Joe Blanton
SP - ??????????????
SP - J.A. Happ

CL - Brad Lidge
SU - Ryan Madson
MR - J.C. Romero
MR - Chad Durbin
MR - Clay Condrey
LR - ?????????
LR - ?????????


They need to make up their minds on Burrell and Moyer.

I love Burrell, but I would seriously entertain trading the team's top two prospects, Carlos Carrasco and Lou Marson, for Matt Holliday.

They can afford to do this. Ruiz is a perfectly adequate catcher, and they have other pitching prospects on the way.

Moyer, I'd bring back for a reasonable price. If someone outbids you for them, you tip your hat and move on.

I'd make an offer to bring back Scott Eyre for the bullpen, but I think it's unlikely they can keep him. He'll get a nice offer based on his last season success, and the shortage of lefty relievers.

Other than a potential big trade for a guy like Holliday, or a pitcher, I don't expect them to do much this offseason, because with all the arbitration guys they have, they're not going to have a TON of money to spend.

But, this team should be right in the thick again next year, and one of the favorites to win the NL again with the Cubs.


If I were Moyer, I would retire on this high note. He would be such an excellent minor league pitching coach, the Phillies should offer him that if we can get a front line starter to take his place. I understand that that is a HUGE "if", but I hear Sabbathia is still available.
as far as Burrell, I say keep him unless you can get Manny or Halliday.
as long as I'm wishing, I'd like my own luxury box. thanks.

[K.C.]

If I were Moyer, I would retire on this high note. He would be such an excellent minor league pitching coach, the Phillies should offer him that if we can get a front line starter to take his place. I understand that that is a HUGE "if", but I hear Sabbathia is still available.
as far as Burrell, I say keep him unless you can get Manny or Halliday.
as long as I'm wishing, I'd like my own luxury box. thanks.

Moyer said he's definitely pitching next year, and he wants to be in Philadelphia, but he doesn't want to be lowballed.

I can't see the Phillies coming up with enough money for Sabathia. Their salaries are going to escalate big time this offseason.

Derek Lowe may be an option, though. But honestly, the most likely thing is Hamels-Myers-Blanton-Moyer-Happ next season, and making no changes to the pitching staff.

[Furtherman]

And that's the end of the series....DONK!

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[tbagnu]

i will be at the linc...section 130 to celebrate!!!!..:clap::clap::clap:

[Freitag]

wait, Cole Hamels' wife is 30? He's only like 24. Didn't know that Cole went for the older broads.

six years isn't that much of a difference, especially when said person was formerly on Survivor and in the pages of a certain men's magazine.

[K.C.]

Ronnie B. found the perfect song to open today's show.

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[cougarjake13]

Now that Philly's off the hook as the city with a team in all 4 major leagues that has gone the longest without a championship, what city is on the hook?

I'm thinking San Francisco, if you count the San Jose Sharks as being there: no World Series for the Giants since 1954 (when they were still in New York), no Super Bowls for the '49ers since 1994 and for the Raiders since 1983, no NBA Championship for the Warriors since 1975, no Stanley Cup ever for the Sharks. That's your new Loser Town right there.

But I'd much rather live in Frisco than Philly.

sportscenter said its a tie with minnesota and washington 1991

[cougarjake13]

wait, Cole Hamels' wife is 30? He's only like 24. Didn't know that Cole went for the older broads.

got pics ???

[TheMojoPin]

I merged the stray post-WS Phillies thread and the WS watching thread into this one to make one gian Phillis thread monstrosity.

[watson]

My only regret is that the parade is on Friday.

SATURDAY would be better.


Ahh well, I'm wearing my hat around work today. The Philly feel good feeling doesn't come around often so I'm gonna STRUT!!!!

http://mummersstrut.homestead.com/files/wenchlanima.gif

they will never have a parade on a weekend, too much overtime to pay the city employees

[watson]

got pics ???

he's married to the chick from survivor, Heidi Strobel

the one on the left

http://liberalvaluesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/heidi_jenna000.jpg

she also did a playboy spread, google images is your friend

[watson]

If I were Moyer, I would retire on this high note. He would be such an excellent minor league pitching coach, the Phillies should offer him that if we can get a front line starter to take his place. I understand that that is a HUGE "if", but I hear Sabbathia is still available.
as far as Burrell, I say keep him unless you can get Manny or Halliday.
as long as I'm wishing, I'd like my own luxury box. thanks.

Moyer is Hamels mentor, he is more valuable to the pitching staff then the pitching coach is

[TripleSkeet]

But I'd much rather live in Frisco than Philly.

Most gay people would.


COME ON!!! You set that up too easily!!!

For the record, the Phils have 10 guys up for arbitration this year. And as much as Id like Holliday, I wouldnt give up Marson for him.

Oh and if they try moving the Series to a neutral site, I WILL put out a fucking hit on Bud Selig.

[skyscraper]

Oh, and Joe Buck's call of the final out sucks a fat cock.

I hope I never hear it again. Just burn that clip, and replace it with Harry's call.

When I was watching it live, I had the tv sound turned off and put on Harry. I tivo'd it and watched it again last night, and wanted to hear how bad buck's call really was. I hate Joe Buck, but I didn't think the call was that bad. All he said was "The Phillies are the World Champions" and then shut the fuck up. he let the pictures tell the story rather than fuck it up with what would most assuredly be douchebag commentary. I wouldn't want to hear him talk over all that celebration. So I'll give him that much.
Anyway, I am missing the parade today :sad: but am tivoing that too. my tivo machine also burns dvd's, so I'll have the entire collection on dvd to savor.

[MisterSmith]

Today is going to be nuts in the city. I drove by the train station at about 7:30am and the place was nuts and dozens of people were walking to it. Drove by again at about 8:15am and there is no parking anywhere close and dozens more people walking. It looked like people were parking in the shopping center close by and walking over.

It is going to be a madhouse. :lol:

[skyscraper]

Moyer is Hamels mentor, he is more valuable to the pitching staff then the pitching coach is

yes, but what he is to Hamels he could be to a whole generation of prospects. that's why I say put him in the minors as opposed to keeping him here. Hamels doesn't really need a mentor anymore: he's proven that he is the ace beyond all doubt. Moyer should take up another project and turn *him* or *them* into aces.

[Philly Franko]

the free tix phils gave out for end of parade route about 3 pm or so sold ouyt in 40 mins, now bums are selling free tix on e bay for $200 + or more or less, lets put these sellers i a hot van to mexico with on e bottle of water and a piss bucket with blindfold..or send em to ron b,s buddys...pigs...tix are for linc and cit bank park,,,

[Furtherman]

You can watch the parade live on KYW's site. (http://cbs3.com/)

[scottinnj]

You can watch the parade live on KYW's site. (http://cbs3.com/)

I for once in my life, braved the crowds and brought my kids to see something that may only, sadly happen once in their lives.

And I love the Phanatic. Ever since I was a kid

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o217/themarshal/PhilliePhanatic.jpg


Cole Hamels:
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o217/themarshal/ColeHamels.jpg

I'm surprised I even got that picture. Everyone was screaming "MVP" and pushing to get closer.

[scottinnj]

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I forgot, those were firecrackers at the end of the video from across the street, not gunfire. You knew it was firecrackers right off the bat at the time, but somehow the noise is louder on my cellphone's mic.

[K.C.]

Great shots, Scott.

Parade was awesome.

Last estimate I heard was 3 million people. That's f'n ridiculous.

I was in Citizens Bank Park for that portion, too. Good show.

Utley dropping the f-bomb on local television was hysterical. I'm pretty sure he was hammered. They were pounding the drinks on the flatbeds for most of the parade.

I don't know what Rollins' obsession with the Mets is, but his nice shot at them at the end of his speech was priceless, too.

Cole looked like a million bucks, him and his Playboy wife.

[K.C.]

http://media.philly.com/images/throngbig_71598_2.JPG

http://media.philly.com/images/1032008parade311.jpg

http://media.philly.com/images/1032008parade36.jpg

http://media.philly.com/images/1032008parade37.jpg

http://media.philly.com/images/manuel600.jpg

http://media.philly.com/images/1032008parade38.jpg

http://media.philly.com/images/hamels600.jpg

http://media.philly.com/images/1032008parade32.jpg

[Aneurysm]

The shots of the crowd are ridiculous

[K.C.]

http://media.philly.com/images/081031PhilliesYK_1.jpg

http://media.philly.com/images/081031PhilliesYK_11.jpg

http://media.philly.com/images/081031PhilliesYK_4.jpg

http://media.philly.com/images/20081031philiesdm05.jpg

http://media.philly.com/images/081031PhilliesYK_12.jpg

http://media.philly.com/images/20081031philiesdm18.jpg

[K.C.]

looking for more pics.

The crowd was basically shoulder to shoulder from City Hall to Citizens Bank Park.

That's four miles of land on Broad Street.

[scottinnj]

I heard on the way in-I left my house at 9:30, there were a million people on the parade route already.

So I wouldn't disbelieve a 3-4 million count.

One of the coolest things was how great the cops were. They let you drink, carry on, smoke a j, whatever. As long as you weren't blowing it in their faces, or interfering with the parade route, you were good to go. I had my kids, so no drinking for me, and I haven't smoked a spliff in 20 years, but everyone had a good time, I can assure you of that.

They were even giving the crowd "High 5vs" while instructing us to stay back on the curb.

What an awesome day.

[K.C.]

Here's the clip...Utley was obviously hammered. So was Werth.

You could see it on their faces as they were walking around the field.

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And then Rollins right afterwards, taking his shots:

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[TripleSkeet]

I drove down at 1130am, parked in front of a fire plug, and walked 2 blocks to Broad and Oregon. Drank and hung out taking pictures with friends and family, then walked onto the median about 30 seconds before the first buses started passing.

First things first. My boy went back to the Phillies yesterday and actually got his fedora back. (Charlie Manuel traded him for his World Series cap after game 5. Then did his Comcast interview wearing it) Apparently my friend had it made and didnt buy it like that. As soon as the buses got there, Charlie Manuel sees him, and my boy hands him the hat again, which he puts on as the bus drives away. Hilarious.

Also Victorino and Werth were awesome. They shook our hands and we handed them a bottle of champagne which they opened and started spraying all over us. Including my 1 year old that I had sitting on my shoulders.

What an incredible day.


Here are a few of my pictures from today...

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/3854/2050523dc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/1847/2050529ic3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4285/2050533pg9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3738/2050548zy7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8684/2050542uc8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[PigShitIrish]

I'm reading this thread while listening to Ron's soliloquy, and it's just fucking amazing. I was there today, and words cannot express what occurred. I'm 29, and this was my first parade. It was insane!

"Every Once In A While You Get A Hold Of The Ball And Fucking Ride It Out!"

Up the Phillies and Philadelphia! We finally did good.

[K.C.]

The Chris Wheeler dance is the newest craze that's sweeping the nation. All the young kids are doing it...

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[KingGeno]

I gotta get my pics uploaded, but BOY was it an amazing day today. Everyone was smiling and having fun. I got to hang out at the corner of Broad and Walnut for the start of the parade, walked back to my friend's place and drove down to the stadium. We parked right near the food distribution center, got real lucky with a spot. Enjoyed the rest of the day at the stadium.

What a powerful and incredible feeling to have and cherish for the rest of my life. When the 2008 Pennant Flag FINALLY unrolled in the wind I couldn't do anything but stare up there and get excited about next season.

The Utley thing should have happened, but whatev. Not gonna make a big deal out of something so small, although he will prob be fined.

I got to talk to Angelo Cataldi again today. That was nice.

All in all I am happy all of you had such a wonderful time. Except for Septa issues, the thing went off excellent. Happy to share it with all of you, and glad to have discussed the 2008 Championship Season with all of you.

Here's to now and beyond! :drunk:

[K.C.]

Except for Septa issues, the thing went off excellent. Happy to share it with all of you, and glad to have discussed the 2008 Championship Season with all of you.

I think Mayor Nutter put the fear of the wrath of God in everyone about what would happen if they didn't take public transportation today, because it seemed like everyone did.

We ended up driving in...got there about an hour before hand, and there were TONS of empty spots in the Citizens Bank parking lot (and it was free to park).

Traffic kind of sucked a little on the way out, but not as badly as I expected for 2.5 million.

Meanwhile, driving by some of the stations, it looked like it was a nightmare to get home on public transport afterwards.

[PigShitIrish]

http://users.rowan.edu/~kostic23/tugmcgraw.jpg

[TripleSkeet]

I had absolutely no problem with the Chase Utley speech. I dont think he couldve summed up the cities sentiment any more perfectly.

[K.C.]

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[cougarjake13]

he's married to the chick from survivor, Heidi Strobel

the one on the left

http://liberalvaluesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/heidi_jenna000.jpg

she also did a playboy spread, google images is your friend



yeh i didnt know her name

and googling cole hamels wife didnt come up with much

[skyscraper]

wow, this thread could use a bump.
so with amaro as the new gm, and arbuckle gone, what does everyone think the immediate future of the phillies is?

[K.C.]

wow, this thread could use a bump.
so with amaro as the new gm, and arbuckle gone, what does everyone think the immediate future of the phillies is?

Amaro will be fine; Arbuckle's actually kind of overrated.

They'll sign Moyer, Eyre, and someone like Rocco Baldelli and call it an offseason.

Should be enough to win the division again. We'll see what happens afterwards.

[skyscraper]

Amaro will be fine; Arbuckle's actually kind of overrated.

They'll sign Moyer, Eyre, and someone like Rocco Baldelli and call it an offseason.

Should be enough to win the division again. We'll see what happens afterwards.

they'd better do more than sign Moyer, Eyre, and Baldelli.
there are also some significant arbitration-eligible cases, such as Howard and Hammels that had better be done right.

[K.C.]

they'd better do more than sign Moyer, Eyre, and Baldelli.
there are also some significant arbitration-eligible cases, such as Howard and Hammels that had better be done right.

They won't.

The arbitration cases are going to kill their books, so they're not going to sign Manny or C.C, and the free agent outfield crop is horrible this year.

They'll get better from within, though.

Lou Marson's going to be an unbelievable offensive catcher. He'll take Coste's spot, most likely. Carlos Carrasco is one of the best pitching prospects in baseball. Either he or J.A. Happ will be the #5 starter.

Having one of them in the rotation for an entire season will be a huge upgrade.

If the only moves they make are Moyer, Eyre, and Baldelli, I'm confident that this team will be in the NLCS again next season, barring injury.

[cougarjake13]

They won't.

The arbitration cases are going to kill their books, so they're not going to sign Manny or C.C, and the free agent outfield crop is horrible this year.

They'll get better from within, though.

Lou Marson's going to be an unbelievable offensive catcher. He'll take Coste's spot, most likely. Carlos Carrasco is one of the best pitching prospects in baseball. Either he or J.A. Happ will be the #5 starter.

Having one of them in the rotation for an entire season will be a huge upgrade.

If the only moves they make are Moyer, Eyre, and Baldelli, I'm confident that this team will be in the NLCS again next season, barring injury.


even if you did nothing, the mets would have to get manny, cc, and fuentes or k rod to be serious contenders

[K.C.]

Saw this on MLBTradeRumors

The Phillies control setup man Ryan Madson through 2009, but he's represented by Scott Boras. Boras compared Madson to Mariano Rivera circa 1996, so don't look for an affordable long-term deal.


Have I mentioned how much I hate Scott Boras?

[skyscraper]

So whom is the pressure on for the next 12 months:
-Eagles, Flyers, and/or Sixers to follow in the Phillies' Championship footsteps
- The Phillies to repeat
-Both
- No one, our need for a Champion has been fulfilled for the next 25 years

[KingGeno]

Boras is a jackass.

[K.C.]

So whom is the pressure on for the next 12 months:
-Eagles, Flyers, and/or Sixers to follow in the Phillies' Championship footsteps
- The Phillies to repeat
-Both
- No one, our need for a Champion has been fulfilled for the next 25 years

I'd say no one for the next couple of years.

The Phillies winning has taken the edge off a lot of the city, at least in the short term.

You could make a case, however, that if the Eagles don't step up, they could drop to #2 in the city.

[skyscraper]

I'd say no one for the next couple of years.

The Phillies winning has taken the edge off a lot of the city, at least in the short term.

You could make a case, however, that if the Eagles don't step up, they could drop to #2 in the city.

to respond to my own poll, I would say that the pressure will be on the phillies to repeat, but it will be tough. think of the letdown if we do anything less next year, especially if the mets do better than we!

[KingGeno]

Pressure is on the Phils. They will have core parts of this championship team back, and they are defending.

The Birds should have been back to the Super Bowl, this is one I would like to see.

Sixers are expected to be a player this year, but they are losing in crappcrappy ways so far this season.

Flyers should be back in the hunt also. they are good.