2009 Repeating NL Central Division Champs Chicago Cubs Thread of Destiny

[IMSlacker]

I'm pretty sure A-Rod will be the final piece of the puzzle we've been looking for. :wallbash:

[lleeder]

time to change that sig

[IMSlacker]

time to change that sig

done.

[Hottub]

I LOVE this thread!!

[lleeder]

done.

time to teach Soriano not to go for that outside breaking pitch

[IMSlacker]

time to teach Soriano not to go for that outside breaking pitch

Time to teach Soriano he doesn't have to swing at every pitch.

[Hottub]

http://img.optonline.net/images/ap/news/0075e531-04b5-4e86-9a87-e4fc00b7b710.jpg

The Phillies are next to fall!
D-Backs v Rockies.

[IMSlacker]

D-Backs v Rockies.

The advertisers must be thrilled.

[ChrisTheCop]

first, a swarm of gnats.
now, a blackout at coors field.

curses abound.

[scottinnj]

Sorry Mojo,

I was really hoping for a Cubs/Phillies pennant race.

Your guys did good this year though. Nothing to be ashamed of.

[epo]

I must admit that as a fellow NL Central fan, I was pulling hard for Arizona to destroy the Cubs.

I know that's an asshole move...but it seemed to work out in this case.

[lleeder]

The advertisers must be thrilled.

How will anyone know about the new Frank Caliendo show now? :thumbdown::ohmy:

[spoon]

first, a swarm of gnats.
now, a blackout at coors field.

curses abound.

And the yankee fans are even blaming the blackout for their loss too.

[TheMojoPin]

I am so very tired.

[scottinnj]

I am so very tired.


Just go to the Politics and Current Events section and start a "Bush is a dick" thread. Even I can't argue with that.

[IMSlacker]

I am so very tired.

Must have run the marathon today. 88 degrees! Holy crap! (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071007/ap_on_sp_ot/run_chicago_marathon)

[epo]

Must have run the marathon today. 88 degrees! Holy crap! (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071007/ap_on_sp_ot/run_chicago_marathon)

I heard it was crazy today....did they close the course at some point?

[IMSlacker]

I heard it was crazy today....did they close the course at some point?

The article says they closed the second half of the course after four hours.

[Snoogans]

wow its a bad sign when you are talkin about a marathon in your baseball team's offseason thread

[IMSlacker]

wow its a bad sign when you are talkin about a marathon in your baseball team's offseason thread

The offseason's only 24 hours old. Things will pick up.

[Snoogans]

go back and look at the old red sox offseason threads, i dont think you will find any mentions of the boston marathon

[BMoses]

The offseason's only 24 hours old. Things will pick up.

Cubs fans, they even think their post season thread will get better, poor bastards

[Snoogans]

HA

[IMSlacker]

go back and look at the old red sox offseason threads, i dont think you will find any mentions of the boston marathon

Did anyone drop dead from the heat during the boston marathon?

[Snoogans]

im sure if they had, there woulda been a thread about it, while we used ours for what it was for, crying about signing drew. Plus boston marathon takes place regular season

[IMSlacker]

Cubs fans, they even think their post season thread will get better, poor bastards

Never said things would get better, just that they'd pick up.

[TheMojoPin]

THIS THREAD STILL LIVE!!!

Not much to report...Jacque Jones traded to Detroit for Omar-fuckin'-Infante. That better be a preclude to another trade involving Infante, becuase the last thing we need is to add to the glut of mediocre middle infielders that we already have. At least it frees up about $4 million.

The utterly worthless Craig Monroe was traded to the Twins for a PTBNL and another $4-5 million freed up.

The was talk of a deal for Carl Crawford almost happening, but it sounds like TB wanted too much (likely both Rich Hill and Carlos Marmol plus another prospect) so the Cubs wisely backed off.

The big talk right now is that the Cubs are going hard after Japanese outfielder Kosuke Fukudome (Best. Name. EVAR.) and pitcher Hiroki Kuroda as their main FA pick-ups this offseason. In all, they have about $25-$30 million to spend even with the sale. There's still talk of trading with the O's for Tejada and/or Bedard since the Cubs have always had a good back and forth with Baltimore, and especially now that their former president is the Orioles' GM.

The other big news is that the actual field at Wirgley is being completely redone by the Sodfather, complete with new drainage:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/Cubbies2166/untitled.jpg

http://images.bleedcubbieblue.com/images/admin/wrigley102507b.jpg

http://images.bleedcubbieblue.com/images/admin/wrigley102407b.jpg
(Contrary to what you might assume, this is NOT a huge pile of shit left out there by all the craptacular CFer's weve had over the years. No, that's all Juan Pierre's.)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-11/33648223.jpg

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-11/33648175.jpg

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-11/33648174.jpg

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-11/33648173.jpg

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-11/33648171.jpg

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-11/33648170.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/eriklj/wrigley111407b.jpg

Only interesting thing found were the old bases for the Bears' goalposts back in the day. No skeletons of goats or Tinkers or Ron Santo's legs.

[cougarjake13]

THIS THREAD STILL LIVE!!!

The was talk of a deal for Carl Crawford almost happening, but it sounds like TB wanted too much (likely both Rich Hill and Carlos Marmol plus another prospect) so the Cubs wisely backed off.



the last player of the rumored deal i heard was eric patterson to go with marmol and hill

[TheMojoPin]

the last player of the rumored deal i heard was eric patterson to go with marmol and hill

Still unacceptable. Hill is a hell of a lot more valuable than Carl-freakin'-Crawford.

[cougarjake13]

Still unacceptable. Hill is a hell of a lot more valuable than Carl-freakin'-Crawford.

oh yeh its too much


plus the rays are going to move iwamora to 2nd so that evan longoria can be brought up and play 3rd so theres no real need for a 2nd baseman

[IMSlacker]

Not sure why everyone's so excited about the Dontrelle Willis/Miguel Cabrera deal when the Cubs just traded Will Ohman and Omar Infante for Jose Ascanio. That's right, the Omar Ascanio! Game on, fuckers!!!

[TheMojoPin]

Not sure why everyone's so excited about the Dontrelle Willis/Miguel Cabrera deal when the Cubs just traded Will Ohman and Omar Infante for Jose Ascanio. That's right, the Omar Ascanio! Game on, fuckers!!!

Oh, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! SNAP INTO SOME HOT STOVE!!!

Yeah, that is pretty freakin' dull...though it got rid of some deadweight, and combined with the earlier Jacque Jones trade, it adds another $6-7 million to the $25-30 million they have to spend. Everything they do from here on out seems to hinge on signing Japanese OFer Fukudome (best jersey ever?) in the next day or so.

[K.C.]

Oh, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! SNAP INTO SOME HOT STOVE!!!

Yeah, that is pretty freakin' dull...though it got rid of some deadweight, and combined with the earlier Jacque Jones trade, it adds another $6-7 million to the $25-30 million they have to spend. Everything they do from here on out seems to hinge on signing Japanese OFer Fukudome (best jersey ever?) in the next day or so.

Nobody in the Central has done a damn thing, though, so it's nothing to worry about. When the biggest move in you're division is the Astros acquiring Michael Bourn, you don't need to worry about lack of hot stove activity.

Plus, the Cubbies' used most of their bullets last year. Outside of Fukudome, I can't see them doing a whole lot more.

[TheMojoPin]

Nobody in the Central has done a damn thing, though, so it's nothing to worry about. When the biggest move in you're division is the Astros acquiring Michael Bourn, you don't need to worry about lack of hot stove activity.

Plus, the Cubbies' used most of their bullets last year. Outside of Fukudome, I can't see them doing a whole lot more.

I'd like to see them try for Tejada, or a package of him and Bedard. I'd happily trade, say, Rich Hill, Carlos Marmol, Ronnie Cedeno and Eric Patterson for them...hell, switch one of them out for Pie if necessary, play Fukudome in CF and keep Murton in RF.

[IMSlacker]

I'd like to see them try for Tejada, or a package of him and Bedard. I'd happily trade, say, Rich Hill, Carlos Marmol, Ronnie Cedeno and Eric Patterson for them...hell, switch one of them out for Pie if necessary, play Fukudome in CF and keep Murton in RF.

Looks like the Cubs are trying to get Brian Roberts from the Orioles for Rich Hill and Sean Gallagher (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-roberts1205,0,2777882.story). Not sure how I feel about that one. I'd hate to lose Rich Hill.

[TheMojoPin]

Looks like the Cubs are trying to get Brian Roberts from the Orioles for Rich Hill and Sean Gallagher (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-roberts1205,0,2777882.story). Not sure how I feel about that one. I'd hate to lose Rich Hill.

Dude, come on...you're seriously giving that "rumor" the time of day? Hill alone is way too much for Roberts. That deal was never even on the table.

[IMSlacker]

Dude, come on...you're seriously giving that "rumor" the time of day? Hill alone is way too much for Roberts. That deal was never even on the table.

Well, Hendry does do some wacky shit sometimes...

[cougarjake13]

Well, Hendry does do some wacky shit sometimes...

i say bring back the hawk

[K.C.]

I'd like to see them try for Tejada, or a package of him and Bedard. I'd happily trade, say, Rich Hill, Carlos Marmol, Ronnie Cedeno and Eric Patterson for them...hell, switch one of them out for Pie if necessary, play Fukudome in CF and keep Murton in RF.

Sounds like the Orioles are crazy in what they're asking for Bedard, if you've been following him, so I doubt it's a possibilty.

Tejada may be, though.

I don't understand why the O's would shop Bedard. It's not like they have a very tight budget, and isn't one of the big reasons they've been so bad their inability to develop pitching. I'd think you lock Bedard up if you're them and trade guys like Tejada, Ramon Hernandez, and Melvin Mora for some pitching prospects.

[chubbyknuckles]

Sounds like the Orioles are crazy in what they're asking for Bedard, if you've been following him, so I doubt it's a possibilty.

Tejada may be, though.

I don't understand why the O's would shop Bedard. It's not like they have a very tight budget, and isn't one of the big reasons they've been so bad their inability to develop pitching. I'd think you lock Bedard up if you're them and trade guys like Tejada, Ramon Hernandez, and Melvin Mora for some pitching prospects.

Supposedly he's been vocal within the team about them letting mazzone go. he credits mazzone with making the changes in bedards game, that made him what his is now. He is a sick sick pitcher, i saw him in a ton of games last year. he's a gamer and throws great games, i know he isnt santana, but give the guy a descent team to pitch for and then watch people clamour for him.

[TheMojoPin]

Supposedly he's been vocal within the team about them letting mazzone go. he credits mazzone with making the changes in bedards game, that made him what his is now. He is a sick sick pitcher, i saw him in a ton of games last year. he's a gamer and throws great games, i know he isnt santana, but give the guy a descent team to pitch for and then watch people clamour for him.

Yeah, he basically flat out said that he doesn't want to stay with the O's. It's better for them to trade him now...as they get closer to his deal running out, teams will be less inclined to give them a good return.

The x-factor to the Cubs dealing with the O's is their former president now being the O's GM, and he's still good friends with the Cubs GM, Jim Hendry.

[chubbyknuckles]

Yeah, he basically flat out said that he doesn't want to stay with the O's. It's better for them to trade him now...as they get closer to his deal running out, teams will be less inclined to give them a good return.

The x-factor to the Cubs dealing with the O's is their former president now being the O's GM, and he's still good friends with the Cubs GM, Jim Hendry.

I would def want bedard, but as a yankee fan, he wont be traded within the division, and won't go to a team that the orioles gm dispises. And also I'm a huge fan of ted lilly, who you couldn't be happier with, i'd geuss

[TheMojoPin]

I would def want bedard, but as a yankee fan, he wont be traded within the division, and won't go to a team that the orioles gm dispises. And also I'm a huge fan of ted lilly, who you couldn't be happier with, i'd geuss

Yeah, Lilly was a pleasant surprise. I figure he'd do well coming from the tough AL East to the shitty NL Central, but he did far better than I thought he would. It really solves a huge problem by having him around.

[chubbyknuckles]

Yeah, Lilly was a pleasant surprise. I figure he'd do well coming from the tough AL East to the shitty NL Central, but he did far better than I thought he would. It really solves a huge problem by having him around.

He's a good pitcher, these ar his prime years too, he gives you innings , is a lefty and strikes people out, whats not to like.

[Knowledged_one]

The Cubs dont have what it takes minor league talent wise as far as what i have heard to get Bedard

However the Roberts deal is a 50-50 thing from what i have read, and its either Gallagher or Rich Hill not both

[Ritalin]

Has anybody heard anything about Mark Prior? I know they're offering him around, and I can't imagine they want very much for him.

I'm surprised that nobody has taken a flyer on him. He's not finished, I think, and he needs a change of scenery. He'll probably end up a pretty decent pitcher for somebody somewhere down the road.

[TheMojoPin]

Has anybody heard anything about Mark Prior? I know they're offering him around, and I can't imagine they want very much for him.

I'm surprised that nobody has taken a flyer on him. He's not finished, I think, and he needs a change of scenery. He'll probably end up a pretty decent pitcher for somebody somewhere down the road.

Supposedly the Cubs are still talking to him about an extension, bt also listening to offers. Apparently at least half-a-dozen teams inquired about him, so there is some demand.

[TheMojoPin]

The Cubs dont have what it takes minor league talent wise as far as what i have heard to get Bedard

However the Roberts deal is a 50-50 thing from what i have read, and its either Gallagher or Rich Hill not both

I'm thinking it doesn't have to be only prospects to get Bedard. I'd happily toss in Hill plus a couple pitching prospects for Bedard and then, say, Felix Pie ad Eric Patterson for Roberts. Sign Fukudome and call it an off-season.

[Knowledged_one]

I think the issue with Bedard is that the Dodgers are supposedly offering a better package of prospects but who knows the O's and Cubs have a good trading tradition much like the redskins and the jets

[Ritalin]

I think the issue with Bedard is that the Dodgers are supposedly offering a better package of prospects but who knows the O's and Cubs have a good trading tradition much like the redskins and the jets

Plus, isn't McPhail over in Baltimore now?

(good point about teams being good trading partners. 'Skins/Jets is a good one. I can't think of another one off the top of my head.)

[cougarjake13]

Plus, isn't McPhail over in Baltimore now?

(good point about teams being good trading partners. 'Skins/Jets is a good one. I can't think of another one off the top of my head.)

the marlins and the rest of major leaue baseball

[IMSlacker]

It looks like the Cubs have signed Fukudome. If you can read the Japanese, apparently, the story is here (http://nagoya.nikkansports.com/baseball/professional/dragons/p-nd-tp0-20071212-294366.html). I sure hope he doesn't suck.

[Kevin]

It looks like the Cubs have signed Fukudome. If you can read the Japanese, apparently, the story is here (http://nagoya.nikkansports.com/baseball/professional/dragons/p-nd-tp0-20071212-294366.html). I sure hope he doesn't suck.

カブス福留誕生へー。中日からＦＡでメジャー入りを目指す福留孝介外野手（３０）のカブス入団が１１日、秒 読み段階に入った。最有力候補のカブスが福留に４年契約６０００万ドル（約６６億円）の超大型契約を提示し ていることが、明らかになった。カ軍関係者が明かしたもので、単年で１６億円を超える年俸のほか、家族にも 専属通訳を付けるなどＶＩＰ待遇。すでに身体検査の準備を始め、パドレスなど他球団を大きく引き離した形で 争奪戦はいよいよ大詰めを迎えた。

Hello exactly!

[IMSlacker]

カブス福留誕生へー。中日からＦＡでメジャー入りを目指す福留孝介外野手（３０）のカブス入団が１１日、秒 読み段階に入った。最有力候補のカブスが福留に４年契約６０００万ドル（約６６億円）の超大型契約を提示し ていることが、明らかになった。カ軍関係者が明かしたもので、単年で１６億円を超える年俸のほか、家族にも 専属通訳を付けるなどＶＩＰ待遇。すでに身体検査の準備を始め、パドレスなど他球団を大きく引き離した形で 争奪戦はいよいよ大詰めを迎えた。

Hello exactly!

You totally missed the most important part of the article:
金銭面では、メジャーの外野手としてトップクラスの条件を用意した。シーズン途中でマリナーズと契約延長し たイチロー（年契約約億円）、今オフにエンゼルスと契約したハンター（年契約約億円）、ドジャースのジョー ンズ（年契約約億円）には及ばないものの、年俸ランクではスーパースター級。先月日、代理人のアーボン氏ら が来日した際、話し合いを終えた福留が、「自分に対して、いい評価をしていただいてうれしい。はるかに予想 を上回っている」と照れ笑いを浮かべたのも当然の条件だった。
Sheesh!

[IMSlacker]

ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3151060) and Fox Sports (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7554498) are reporting the Fukudome signing too now.

[epo]

It looks like the Cubs have signed Fukudome. If you can read the Japanese, apparently, the story is here (http://nagoya.nikkansports.com/baseball/professional/dragons/p-nd-tp0-20071212-294366.html). I sure hope he doesn't suck.

I was hoping that wouldn't happen.

[TheMojoPin]

It's official...all over the radio and Fox Sports...Cubs got him for 4 year/$50 million which is outstanding considering it was talked a deal for that long (or 5 years) would very easily be for $65-75 million.

And with it sounding like the Dodgers are about to get Bedard, looks like Roberts will be on his way to the Cubs.

I'm liking this very much.

[Kevin]

ESPN has it now.. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3151060)

[TheMojoPin]

My proposed lineup, assuming they get Roberts...

Roberts
Fukudome
Lee
Ramirez
Soriano
Derosa
Pie
Soto
pitcher

Not too shabby.

[TheMojoPin]

The Cubs want this guy because he's a great fielder and an excellent all-around hitter, but he's got some pop, too:

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And check out this throw:

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I really wish we could see more Japanese baseball over here.

[TheMojoPin]

Ahhhh, it's actualy 4/48...even better!

[Kevin]

Ahhhh, it's actualy 4/48...even better!

Just remember. For every Ichiro, there is a Hideki Matsui.. And for every Dice K.. There is a dice k...





Kei Igawa..

[jauble]

its nice to see the waiting pay off...fucking gambling cubs managment but what a possible lineup I see us winning possibly half the games again this season

[TheMojoPin]

Just remember. For every Ichiro, there is a Hideki Matsui.. And for every Dice K.. There is a dice k...





Kei Igawa..

Yeah, yeah, I know...

What gives me the most confidence is his career OPS of .935 (.995 over the last 4 seasons). Ichiro's was .942 and Hideki's was .995...obviously, both have dropped a bit since coming over here (.816 and .856 respectively), but that puts him in VERY good company.

And I think you meant to say Kaz instead of Hideki. Hideki is the good one. Kaz' OPS was .846.

[TheMojoPin]

its nice to see the waiting pay off...fucking gambling cubs managment but what a possible lineup I see us winning possibly half the games again this season

There's absolutely no exscuse not to, especially with these improvements. Soriano likely won't be injured again given how every other season he's played 150+ games and Lee will be back to full strength (even though he seemed to have been fully back the last couple months of the season. His slugging was much higher and the home runs he hit projected him to about 30-35 over a full season, plus his average and OBP stayed great all year).

[Kevin]

Yeah, yeah, I know...

What gives me the most confidence is his career OPS of .935 (.995 over the last 4 seasons). Ichiro's was .942 and Hideki's was .995...obviously, both have dropped a bit since coming over here (.816 and .856 respectively), but that puts him in VERY good company.

And I think you meant to say Kaz instead of Hideki. Hideki is the good one. Kaz' OPS was .846.

I am just saying.. The only guy to live up to his expectations was Ichiro.. He was actually better.. Hideki was a nice player at his best.. Not nearly the superstar he was set out to be.. I and Dice K.. Too early.. I am just saying.. Its a major crap shoot..

[TheMojoPin]

I am just saying.. The only guy to live up to his expectations was Ichiro.. He was actually better.. Hideki was a nice player at his best.. Not nearly the superstar he was set out to be.. I and Dice K.. Too early.. I am just saying.. Its a major crap shoot..

Well, they're not signing this guy to be a superstar or the centerpiece of the team. And Hideki has been an excellent player.

[Kevin]

Well, they're not signing this guy to be a superstar or the centerpiece of the team. And Hideki has been an excellent player.


Hideki has only played a decent outfied the 1st year he was here.. His play on the ball is awful.. His arm is terrible.. And he comes through in clutch spots less than Arod... Number don't really show the whole story.. He has been a disappointment..

[TheMojoPin]

Hideki has only played a decent outfied the 1st year he was here.. His play on the ball is awful.. His arm is terrible.. And he comes through in clutch spots less than Arod... Number don't really show the whole story.. He has been a disappointment..

Actualy, numbers in baseball typically tell you the whole story.

And Fukudome is light years beyond Hideki in terms of defense.

[Kevin]

Actualy, numbers in baseball typically tell you the whole story.

And Fukudome is light years beyond Hideki in terms of defense.

I have never seen him play.. So i do not know what kinda player he is.. I am just sayin.. be careful in gettin your hopes too up, until you geta good dosage of his play..

[TheMojoPin]

I have never seen him play.. So i do not know what kinda player he is.. I am just sayin.. be careful in gettin your hopes too up, until you geta good dosage of his play..

Understood, but what I'm saying is, the things they wanted him for, his fielding and his OBP, are things that typically carry over between Japan and American baseball very easily. His numbers in those areas are Ichiro-like. He's not being brought over to be a hitting power monster a la Hideki.

[Kevin]

Understood, but what I'm saying is, the things they wanted him for, his fielding and his OBP, are things that typically carry over between Japan and American baseball very easily. His numbers in those areas are Ichiro-like. He's not being brought over to be a hitting power monster a la Hideki.

Wasn't Kaz thought to be basically the same kind of player this guy is?? Avg hitting, contact.. Great gold glove defense.. He was far from it when he played here.. In fact, he was plain awful with the glove..

Edit.. hitting for avg, not avg hitting..

[TheMojoPin]

Wasn't Kaz thought to be basically the same kind of player this guy is?? Avg hitting, contact.. Great gold glove defense.. He was far from it when he played here.. In fact, he was plain awful with the glove..

Check their Japanese league stats. Fukudome is better.

I'd also have to imagine the conversion for an OFer isn't as dramatic as an IFer between the countries.

[Kevin]

Check their Japanese league stats. Fukudome is better.

I'd also have to imagine the conversion for an OFer isn't as dramatic as an IFer between the countries.

Yea, your prob right on that.. Different INF.. Different ball.. Plus wasn't Kaz's major prob was something to the sort of it was considered taboo to dive or slide for a ball, in Japan? So he tried to get every ball upwards.. Different ball field, made that very difficult.. Plus Kaz arm blew.. I heard this guy has a gun..

[TheMojoPin]

I heard this guy has a gun..

Check the second video clip I posted higher up this page.

[Kevin]

Check the second video clip I posted higher up this page.

Wow! The 2nd clip was much more impressive than the 1st.. The 1st was the doing of a terrible pitch.. But that throw was impressive.

Makes me think of why the Yanks didn't refuse Abreu's option and sign this guy.. They would have not lost that much in the Japanese market, even if they trade Matsui to San Fran, plus save 4mil this year..

[Ritalin]

That second video clip made me remember when Andre Dawson threw out that guy from right field in his MVP season. I was watching that live and I nearly fell out of my chair. I had never even conceived of the idea of doing that.

It was awesome.

[spoon]

You got your #1 wish for 2008 (or at least management's #1) Fukudome is in the fold. He signed for 4 years today.

[IMSlacker]

The Cubs have non-tendered Mark Prior (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-071212prior,1,410674.story?coll=cs-home-headlines). Not surprising really, but it's a shame things didn't work out better.

[epo]

The Cubs have non-tendered Mark Prior (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-071212prior,1,410674.story?coll=cs-home-headlines). Not surprising really, but it's a shame things didn't work out better.

I beg of you Doug Melvin, call his agent right now.

[TheMojoPin]

This has seemed inevitable for the last couple weeks, but it still sucks hard.

Goddammit.

This is depressing.

I think he'll end up with the Padres, and I hope he finds at least some of the success he had before. He was an amazing pitcher to watch.

[TheMojoPin]

http://pictopia.com/perl/get_image?provider_id=314&size=550x550_mb&ptp_photo_id=381270

http://ballparkfrank.files.wordpress.com/2006/03/M_Prior_082003.jpg

http://sportsmaven.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/mark-prior-in-spring-training-2-27-07.jpg

http://www.paidsports.com/paidsports/images/prior_8x10.jpg

http://pictopia.com/perl/get_image?provider_id=314&size=550x550_mb&ptp_photo_id=380970

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/scorecard_daily/2004/10/01/1001/lead4.jpg

....

Nuts.

[Marc with a c]

i wish he was hispanic, i'd love to have him on my team.

[Kevin]

i wish he was hispanic, i'd love to have him on my team.


I wonder if he is Jewish...

[jauble]

Do you think the cubs are looking to make some moves SP wise. I believe I saw they were going to try to convert Dempster back to starting but that makes me nervous. It does allow for Marmol to close which I think is a better option.

[TheMojoPin]

Do you think the cubs are looking to make some moves SP wise. I believe I saw they were going to try to convert Dempster back to starting but that makes me nervous. It does allow for Marmol to close which I think is a better option.

It's a waste using Marmol as a closer. He's much more valuable with his dominance in the 7th or 8th innings when it tends to be a more high pressure situation. I'd much rather have him available to come if there's guys on the bases or things are looking rough. Let Howry or Wood close.

It seems like the Cubs are shopping Marquis (supposedly the Mets have asked, though Lord knows why), and I wouldn't be surprised to see Dempster get traded (Blue Jays have supposedly inquired) even if Marquis is moved. The Cubs are talked about looking to trade for another starter, so I see them doing that and trading off Demp Marquis, which is fine by me.

[Ritalin]

It's a waste using Marmol as a closer. He's much more valuable with his dominance in the 7th or 8th innings when it tends to be a more high pressure situation. I'd much rather have him available to come if there's guys on the bases or things are looking rough. Let Howry or Wood close.

It seems like the Cubs are shopping Marquis (supposedly the Mets have asked, though Lord knows why), and I wouldn't be surprised to see Dempster get traded (Blue Jays have supposedly inquired) even if Marquis is moved. The Cubs are talked about looking to trade for another starter, so I see them doing that and trading off Demp Marquis, which is fine by me.

See, the problem with this is the reason why the Mets are interested in Marquis (although the Mets will be interested in every player available at some time and get none of them): there's no pitching to be had out there.

The Prior thing makes me nervous. I get why they had to let him go - they couldn't use the season to make him attractive for the free agent market - but I have this fear that he's going to come out this year DEALING, you know what I mean?

[Earlshog]

Prior set to become free agent after Cubs sever ties


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3152880

[jauble]

I would be happy if they dealt Marquis...never been a fan of him.

[cougarjake13]

It's a waste using Marmol as a closer. He's much more valuable with his dominance in the 7th or 8th innings when it tends to be a more high pressure situation. I'd much rather have him available to come if there's guys on the bases or things are looking rough. Let Howry or Wood close.

It seems like the Cubs are shopping Marquis (supposedly the Mets have asked, though Lord knows why), and I wouldn't be surprised to see Dempster get traded (Blue Jays have supposedly inquired) even if Marquis is moved. The Cubs are talked about looking to trade for another starter, so I see them doing that and trading off Demp Marquis, which is fine by me.

i wonder how marquis would do in his hometown if he came to the mets or yanks for that matter

[TheMojoPin]

i wonder how marquis would do in his hometown if he came to the mets or yanks for that matter

Crappy pitchers tend to do poorly anywhere.

[TheMojoPin]

My sources tell me that Matt Murton/Eric Patterson/Sean Gallagher to the O's for Brian Roberts is all but done and will likely be announced by the weekend.

Hopefully Brian hooks up with Sammy's connection, becase our lineup is shaping to be pretty decent with him leading off:

Brian Roberts
Kosuke Fukudome
Derrek Lee
Aramis Ramirez
Alfonso Soriano
Mark DeRosa
Felix Pie
Geovany Soto

[Snoogans]

yea, I love when the cubs have alot of talent. Its alot more fun watching them find ways not to when then when they just suck

[Knowledged_one]

I dont know about Matt Murton there since the orioles just got an OF in the Tejada deal that is a major leaguer, but i could be wrong i just dont see it, and there has been no inkling or even whisper of rumor about this in the baltimore papers

[Knowledged_one]

mojo another dagger in your story

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/roch/blog/

no trade is imminent

[Snoogans]

you better hope you get him, since you know, he only tried it once

[cougarjake13]

you better hope you get him, since you know, he only tried it once

yeh he just wanted to see what it was like and didnt like it


whats wrong with that ???

[TheMojoPin]

mojo another dagger in your story

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/roch/blog/

no trade is imminent

My source was potentially found out by his insider source, so I think I just lost all info. That said, based on everything I've heard, this will get done. Apparently the biggest hold up, as per usual, is Angelos.

[cougarjake13]

FUK U DOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jauble]

Anyone have the bookFor Cubs Fans Only? My friend got it for me for xmas and I was just wondering about it.

[TheMojoPin]

Cubs sign Jon Leiber for one year, $3.5 million.

...

Fan-fucking-tastic.

*Jumps*

[cougarjake13]

Cubs sign Jon Leiber for one year, $3.5 million.

...

Fan-fucking-tastic.

*Jumps*

its worth a shot

[TheMojoPin]

Is it? He's really old, fat and coming off an injury/surgery.

[cougarjake13]

Is it? He's really old, fat and coming off an injury/surgery.

he had the one miracle comeback season for the yanks

maybe he can do it again

if not, whats 3.5 mil???

[TheMojoPin]

So bored, waiting to see if any of the rumored trades happen, so here's Fukudome's 2003-2007 seasons convereted to estimated MLB equivalents:

YEAR G AB H 2B 3B HR BB AVG OBP SLG
2003 162 611 178 34 20 24 73 .291 .367 .529
2004 108 411 106 22 13 16 45 .258 .332 .494
2005 158 571 175 42 10 19 83 .306 .394 .515
2006 144 550 180 51 9 21 68 .327 .401 .565
2007 91 303 83 24 0 9 62 .274 .398 .441

2004 was shortened by a broken finger. 2007 there was some minor elbow stuff that's supposedly taken care of. It better be...

[Knowledged_one]

So bored, waiting to see if any of the rumored trades happen, so here's Fukudome's 2003-2007 seasons convereted to estimated MLB equivalents:

YEAR G AB H 2B 3B HR BB AVG OBP SLG
2003 162 611 178 34 20 24 73 .291 .367 .529
2004 108 411 106 22 13 16 45 .258 .332 .494
2005 158 571 175 42 10 19 83 .306 .394 .515
2006 144 550 180 51 9 21 68 .327 .401 .565
2007 91 303 83 24 0 9 62 .274 .398 .441

2004 was shortened by a broken finger. 2007 there was some minor elbow stuff that's supposedly taken care of. It better be...

Apparently the trade for Brian Roberts is being held up by the Erik Bedard deal to the Mariners if and when that trade happens the Roberts deal should likely follow suit

Apparently the names in the roberts trade that have been thrown out are now Sean Gallagher and Felix Pie

Which would give the O's an OF of Jones (my guess is moved to Left), Pie in CF and Markakis in RF

That would be a great OF for the O's

[TheMojoPin]

Apparently the trade for Brian Roberts is being held up by the Erik Bedard deal to the Mariners if and when that trade happens the Roberts deal should likely follow suit

Apparently the names in the roberts trade that have been thrown out are now Sean Gallagher and Felix Pie

Which would give the O's an OF of Jones (my guess is moved to Left), Pie in CF and Markakis in RF

That would be a great OF for the O's

No kidding. Angelos is an idiot if he kills either of these deals...the O's would be getting 6-8 really good young players.

If Pie goes, it sounds like they're targeting Figgins to play CF, which would kick ass, but knowing the Cubs, they'll probably settle for fucking Gary Matthews, jr..

[jauble]

Is it? He's really old, fat and coming off an injury/surgery.

its like mark prior + a few years = the cubs love it

[TheMojoPin]

Weird rumblings in terms of whether or not the Cubs will get Roberts...Roberts is not in the o's training camp due to a "stomach ailment." The O's have scouts at the Cubs' camp. Fuckin' Cintron was signed to a minor league deal, which makes sense since Cedeno is almost certainly to be moved in a deal for Roberts. All of this is after Roberts just said this the other day:

"It's just a touchy situation just because I love the Orioles," Roberts said. "I've been here since Day One, and I do want to see this organization win. I've always said that. I made a commitment when I signed my deal. But certainly on the other hand, when you see two of your best players gone, a lot of unknowns come in -- very talented I'm sure -- but unknowns still nonetheless. The organization essentially has conceded [that] we probably won't win for a couple of years. It's hard to swallow at first, but I'm here. Wherever I am Opening Day, I'll do my job."

"I would never call this organization and say, 'I want to be traded. I need to be traded,'" Roberts said. "I signed a contract. I signed a deal. I understand when I make a commitment, that's what I'm here for. But as I said earlier, you want to win. ... For this organization, if it's better to send me to another place and get a couple of pieces for down the road, I understand that, too. The sooner the chance I get to win, the better off."

That's pretty much the most diplomatic way you can say, "please trade me to a better team."

[jauble]

Mojo how do you think Roberts would fit in on the north side? Oh and tell neckbeard thanks for the referal to NSBB, great site.

[TheMojoPin]

Oh, and according to this site (http://www.hittrackeronline.com/), Aramis Ramirez officially had the longest HR in baseball in 2007 with this 495 ft. 3-run shot. (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w_id=600853&w=mms%3A//a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2007/open/tp/archive09/092107_pitchn_ramirez_hr_tp_350.wmv&pid=mlb_tp&gid=2007/09/21/pitmlb-chnmlb-1&mid=200709212221991&cid=mlb&fid=mlb_tp400&v=2&mType=w&urlstr=&mUrl=&type=v_free&_mp=1)

Best thing was, he had another 3-run shot later that game. (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w_id=600858&w=mms%3A//a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2007/open/tp/archive09/092107_pitchn_ramirez_hr2_tp_350.wmv&pid=mlb_tp&gid=2007/09/21/pitmlb-chnmlb-1&mid=200709212222044&cid=mlb&fid=mlb_tp400&v=2&mType=w&urlstr=&mUrl=&type=v_free&_mp=1) Easily one of the most underrated/ignored hitting threats in baseball.

That game was nuts. Aramis had those two shots, Soto had a 2-run blast and Soriano lead it all off with a solo shot, yet the Pirates still made it 7-7 at one point thanks to a Jason Marquis implosion where he gave up 5 runs in one inning. Fortunately, the Cubs one the day 12-7. Suck it, Marquis. You're horrible.

That series against the Pirates was one of the better ones last year for the Cubs. Ton of runs scored, ton of homers hit, and easily one of the best catches I've ever seen at Wrigley. (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w_id=601089&w=mms%3A//a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2007/open/tp/archive09/092207_pitchn_fuld_def_tp_350.wmv&pid=mlb_tp&gid=2007/09/22/pitmlb-chnmlb-1&mid=200709222223841&cid=mlb&fid=mlb_tp400&v=2&mType=w&urlstr=&mUrl=&type=v_free&_mp=1) Watch the whole clip to see the replay from the side so you can see just how hard he slammed into the fucking bricks and still made the throw.

Oh, mods...PLEASE CHANGE THE THREAD TITLE TO "THE 2008 CHICAGO CUBS THREAD". Thank yooooooooooooooou.

[TheMojoPin]

Mojo how do you think Roberts would fit in on the north side? Oh and tell neckbeard thanks for the referal to NSBB, great site.

Well, he'd likely bat 2nd, and that would make the Cubs lineup pretty incredible.

Soriano
Roberts
Lee
Aramis Ramirez
Fukudome
Geovany Soto
?
Felix Pie
Pitcher

Soto projects to have an amazing year and be a serious ROY contender. I put ? after him because a Roberts trade puts SS in even more flux. Personally, I'd put DeRosa there as much as possible and suck up the defense to have his solid bat in the lineup as much as possible. Otherwise, you're stuck with Theriot for the time being since Cedeno would almost certainly go to the O's. I can't really stand Cintron or Theriot, but Cintron is a switch hitter, with him bein a .347 OBP guy left-handed, a career .305 batting average and .768 OPS hitting lefty. Theriot is a career .384 OBP vs lefties with an .846 OPS. Platoon them right and SS could actually not be a complete offensive blackhole, though this would obviously only be a tempoary solution. Hendry should be actively looking to seriously upgrade SS at all times. I'd still also like them to find someone to platoon wih Pie since Pie can't hit lefties for shit.

[PhishHead]

Pie is your big weak spot.

[BoondockSaint]

Pie is your big weak spot.

Mine too.

[PhishHead]

Mine too.

i like cherry pie

I use to love blueberry pie till i bought a blueberry pie from trader joes, ate like half of it and found out the entire thing inside was moldy.

[BoondockSaint]

i like cherry pie

I use to love blueberry pie till i bought a blueberry pie from trader joes, ate like half of it and found out the entire thing inside was moldy.

eww. My friend bit into a Twinke once and maggots crawled out.

I'm a big fan of apple and pumpkin.

[Knowledged_one]

cream cheese pie is definetly the #1 seed of pies for me

[TheMojoPin]

Pie is your big weak spot.

Maybe.

They just need to let him play as much as possible at this point, especially against righties. He can't prove anything else in the minors...he's rocked it at every level, and there's zero point keeping him there. Let him play and see if he can transfer any of that over to the bigs. They need to let him start against every rightie they face for the first three months.

[PhishHead]

eww. My friend bit into a Twinke once and maggots crawled out.

I'm a big fan of apple and pumpkin.

your story wins

[PhishHead]

cream cheese pie is definetly the #1 seed of pies for me

that sounds like the most disgusting thing ever.

[Knowledged_one]

Maybe.

They just need to let him play as much as possible at this point, especially against righties. He can't prove anything else in the minors...he's rocked it at every level, and there's zero point keeping him there. Let him play and see if he can transfer any of that over to the bigs. They need to let him start against every rightie they face for the first three months.

Keep Murton and give the O's Pie

I know Soriano hates batting anything but first but the cubs would do much better with Roberts hitting lead off

[jauble]

Maybe.

They just need to let him play as much as possible at this point, especially against righties. He can't prove anything else in the minors...he's rocked it at every level, and there's zero point keeping him there. Let him play and see if he can transfer any of that over to the bigs. They need to let him start against every rightie they face for the first three months.

I agree with that 100 percent he can only get better playing at the top level day after day (when lefties are pitching who do you like in center?)

[Knowledged_one]

that sounds like the most disgusting thing ever.

No way it is silly, almost like a cheesecake

[TheMojoPin]

Keep Murton and give the O's Pie

I know Soriano hates batting anything but first but the cubs would do much better with Roberts hitting lead off

That's retarded. Murton can only play the corners. You can have Colvin instead.

Soriano's career numbers take a dive when he hits lower in the order and has to deal with more people on. He's much more effective at the top. Roberts at #2 still works because it still puts him on before the #3-5 hitters. And really, a leadoff hitter's goal is to get on and score. Soriano is actually better at that than Roberts in the leadoff spot.

[TheMojoPin]

I agree with that 100 percent he can only get better playing at the top level day after day (when lefties are pitching who do you like in center?)

Fucked if I know. They desperately need a CF platoon parner ASAP. Colvin is their next CF prospect, but he's not ready. Decent offensive numbers, but he takes way too few walks and strikes out way too much at this point.

[jauble]

Fucked if I know. They desperately need a CF platoon parner ASAP. Colvin is their next CF prospect, but he's not ready. Decent offensive numbers, but he takes way too few walks and strikes out way too much at this point.

I have read a little about a lofton pick up, I want an older guy maybe as a temp but this needs to be dealt with.

[Knowledged_one]

I have read a little about a lofton pick up, I want an older guy maybe as a temp but this needs to be dealt with.

Supposedly the Reds may sign Lofton to play

How funny would it be if the CF is the return of Corey Patterson who is available

[TheMojoPin]

Supposedly the Reds may sign Lofton to play

How funny would it be if the CF is the return of Corey Patterson who is available

It would never happen. For one, there's no way he wants to play here again. Second, he's horrible against lefties.

[Knowledged_one]

It would never happen. For one, there's no way he wants to play here again. Second, he's horrible against lefties.

Must you always rain on my parade :wink:

[TheMojoPin]

Oh, and according to this site (http://www.hittrackeronline.com/), Aramis Ramirez officially had the longest HR in baseball in 2007 with this 495 ft. 3-run shot. (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w_id=600853&w=mms%3A//a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2007/open/tp/archive09/092107_pitchn_ramirez_hr_tp_350.wmv&pid=mlb_tp&gid=2007/09/21/pitmlb-chnmlb-1&mid=200709212221991&cid=mlb&fid=mlb_tp400&v=2&mType=w&urlstr=&mUrl=&type=v_free&_mp=1)

Best thing was, he had another 3-run shot later that game. (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w_id=600858&w=mms%3A//a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2007/open/tp/archive09/092107_pitchn_ramirez_hr2_tp_350.wmv&pid=mlb_tp&gid=2007/09/21/pitmlb-chnmlb-1&mid=200709212222044&cid=mlb&fid=mlb_tp400&v=2&mType=w&urlstr=&mUrl=&type=v_free&_mp=1) Easily one of the most underrated/ignored hitting threats in baseball.

That game was nuts. Aramis had those two shots, Soto had a 2-run blast and Soriano lead it all off with a solo shot, yet the Pirates still made it 7-7 at one point thanks to a Jason Marquis implosion where he gave up 5 runs in one inning. Fortunately, the Cubs one the day 12-7. Suck it, Marquis. You're horrible.

That series against the Pirates was one of the better ones last year for the Cubs. Ton of runs scored, ton of homers hit, and easily one of the best catches I've ever seen at Wrigley. (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w_id=601089&w=mms%3A//a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2007/open/tp/archive09/092207_pitchn_fuld_def_tp_350.wmv&pid=mlb_tp&gid=2007/09/22/pitmlb-chnmlb-1&mid=200709222223841&cid=mlb&fid=mlb_tp400&v=2&mType=w&urlstr=&mUrl=&type=v_free&_mp=1) Watch the whole clip to see the replay from the side so you can see just how hard he slammed into the fucking bricks and still made the throw.

Oh, mods...PLEASE CHANGE THE THREAD TITLE TO "THE 2008 CHICAGO CUBS THREAD". Thank yooooooooooooooou.

Bumping this since it quickly got left on the last page.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

see you guys in the playoffs

the Cubs look good

[TheMojoPin]

And here was my favorite Aramis moment from 2007. (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w_id=580945&w=mms%3A//a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2007/open/tp/archive06/062907_milchn_ramirez_gwhr_tp_350.wmv&pid=mlb_tp&gid=2007/06/29/milmlb-chnmlb-1&mid=200706292056556&cid=mlb&fid=mlb_tp400&v=2&mType=w&urlstr=&mUrl=&type=v_free&_mp=1) Sorry, epo, nothing personal, but that win reawoken my faith in a higher power.

I love how Len Kasper turn into a 12-year-old boy with those calls.

[TheMojoPin]

see you guys in the playoffs

the Cubs look good

Forgiven.

C'mere, you lovable lug with the lovable mug!

[Ritalin]

Wow!

We get the full squad to show up, Lou's talking about giving regulars some rest this year, and Mojo's all full of love for his fellow man.

I got one word stuck in my head: Fukudome!

[IMSlacker]

see you guys in the playoffs

the Cubs look good

Great. Like the Cubs need another jinx.

Stay out of the Cubs thread, Jinxy.

[jauble]

And here was my favorite Aramis moment from 2007. (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w_id=580945&w=mms%3A//a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2007/open/tp/archive06/062907_milchn_ramirez_gwhr_tp_350.wmv&pid=mlb_tp&gid=2007/06/29/milmlb-chnmlb-1&mid=200706292056556&cid=mlb&fid=mlb_tp400&v=2&mType=w&urlstr=&mUrl=&type=v_free&_mp=1) Sorry, epo, nothing personal, but that win reawoken my faith in a higher power.

I love how Len Kasper turn into a 12-year-old boy with those calls.

I remember watching that game and losing my mind when that happened. My chick at the time doesnt know baseball that well and she didnt get why I was excited.

[TheMojoPin]

I remember watching that game and losing my mind when that happened. My chick at the time doesnt know baseball that well and she didnt get why I was excited.

I went absolutely insane. Jumping, screaming, running around the apartment. I actually went by church that weekend because I was praying outloud for it to happen.

[TheMojoPin]

Apparently Pie wasn't at practice today. Total speculation, but with Roberts missing a couple days earlier this week with the O's and now this, it's a little curious. Eric Patterson has only been playing CF so far this spring, so maybe they're willing to part with Pie in the idea of hoping that Colvin and/or E-Patt pan out in the next year or two in CF. Maybe sign Lofton to fill in in the meantime?

[BoondockSaint]

Apparently Pie wasn't at practice today. Total speculation, but with Roberts missing a couple days earlier this week with the O's and now this, it's a little curious. Eric Patterson has only been playing CF so far this spring, so maybe they're willing to part with Pie in the idea of hoping that Colvin and/or E-Patt pan out in the next year or two in CF. Maybe sign Lofton to fill in in the meantime?

I read that Roberts was out because of a kidney stone.

[TheMojoPin]

I read that Roberts was out because of a kidney stone.

I read that as well. I don't trust the O's at all after this offseason. They lied their asses off over the Tejada and Bedard trades until they were done. Angelos operates like it's unfair that not everything is totally secret these days.

[cougarjake13]

fuck angelos

[Knowledged_one]

Will the DeRosa heart problem be the impetus to trading for Roberts? It seems like if he is done (i havent read any updates) then the Cubs may get raped just to get Roberts

[TheMojoPin]

Will the DeRosa heart problem be the impetus to trading for Roberts? It seems like if he is done (i havent read any updates) then the Cubs may get raped just to get Roberts

He's not done. This is a condition DeRosa has had all his life and getting checked out at the hospital was just a precautionary measure. He was released with nothing found and a new stash of Beta Blockers.

[Knowledged_one]

He's not done. This is a condition DeRosa has had all his life and getting checked out at the hospital was just a precautionary measure. He was released with nothing found and a new stash of Beta Blockers.

Thanks for the update, like i said i hadnt seen any new updates or had heard anything.

So do you think the trade will still happen? I put it at 25/75 on the happening/not happening scale

[TheMojoPin]

Thanks for the update, like i said i hadnt seen any new updates or had heard anything.

So do you think the trade will still happen? I put it at 25/75 on the happening/not happening scale

I do. By the end of spring break, they'll flip. With Roberts' comments to the press, I'm sure of it. Angelos finally shipped of Bedard and Tejada when they were rumbling about wanting out, and here you have Roberts saying to the press as diplomatically as possible that he wants this trade to go down. Seeing how Angelos rolls, he'll eventually agree to the trade...they're just trying to bleed what they can in the meantime, like with those other two trades.

[A.J.]

Cubs owner: Naming rights for Wrigley Field on the table (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3266721)

Another scumbag owner.

[TheMojoPin]

I honestly don't care. If any of that money goes to the payroll or fixing up the stadium or adding more parking, good for them. I say blow up the dump, move the bleachers, bricks, scoreboard, ivy and the red sign that's out front and build a new stadium where Cabrini Green was. They're talking about doing a major renovation in a year or two and sharing the Cell with the White Sox at that time. If they're going to do such a horribe thing, build a new stadium that can seat more people and can actually have parking lots around it. Wrigley is defined by failure and tourist fans at this point.

[Marc with a c]

Wrigley is defined by failure and tourist fans at this point.

85% of the world works, the other 15% goes to wrigley.

[TheMojoPin]

85% of the world works, the other 15% goes to wrigley.

Sadly, too many of the games are later now.

[Knowledged_one]

Mojo,

While waiting for Scrubs last night i caught the last 5 minutes of the WGN newscast and they said that DeRosa is still out and not expected back till early next week and has to go see a cardiologist. How accurate is this report do you know, they also described him as a utility infielder and i thought he was the starter. As you know as an O's fan i am awaiting what happens with Roberts to the Cubs

[TheMojoPin]

Mojo,

While waiting for Scrubs last night i caught the last 5 minutes of the WGN newscast and they said that DeRosa is still out and not expected back till early next week and has to go see a cardiologist. How accurate is this report do you know, they also described him as a utility infielder and i thought he was the starter. As you know as an O's fan i am awaiting what happens with Roberts to the Cubs

He's back next week. They sent him back to Chicago just to be extra sure. Like I said, he's had this condition since he was very young, but this was the first time in a long time where it seemingly got the best of him, so nobdy wans to take any chances. He's getting checked out by cardiologists, but nobody really expects anything serious to be found.

They clearly want Roberts at 2nd and they want DeRose to be their utility guy since he showed last year that he could easily handle 3rd and 1st and even the corner OF spots besides 2nd if needed. He's the starter by default if they don't get Roberts, but they would prefer him to end up being the super utility guy.

[Knowledged_one]

So mojo did you hear that the Cubs had scouts at the Orioles spring training game scouting Roberts? And the deal now looks as though they are gonna include some guy named Veal as well as some of the other names bandied around (Gallagher, Cedeno and possibly Murton) and i am hearing that the O's may force the cubs to take Payton as well

So what do you think?

[epo]

So mojo did you hear that the Cubs had scouts at the Orioles spring training game scouting Roberts? And the deal now looks as though they are gonna include some guy named Veal as well as some of the other names bandied around (Gallagher, Cedeno and possibly Murton) and i am hearing that the O's may force the cubs to take Payton as well

So what do you think?

LHP Donald Veal?

[TheMojoPin]

So mojo did you hear that the Cubs had scouts at the Orioles spring training game scouting Roberts? And the deal now looks as though they are gonna include some guy named Veal as well as some of the other names bandied around (Gallagher, Cedeno and possibly Murton) and i am hearing that the O's may force the cubs to take Payton as well

So what do you think?

They better getting more than Roberts and Payton back in return, or someone aLOT better than fucking Payton if they're giving up that much. I was reading about the mutua scouting, but any actual players are speculation. Only Murton and Gallagher came anywhere near being "confirmed"

[Bulldogcakes]

Marquis Wants To Be Traded If He Is Not In Rotation (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/03/marquis-wants-t.html)

[jauble]

Marquis Wants To Be Traded If He Is Not In Rotation (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/03/marquis-wants-t.html)

Good Marquis blows, I would trade him for a tee ball set.

[TheMojoPin]

Fuck Marquis. The O's keep talking about how the want a vet starting pitcher to eat innings...boom, there you go. He can be the 4th player they keep trying to wring from the Cubs.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

[Kevin]

Is Roberts really going to happen this time?

[Bulldogcakes]

Cubs-Orioles Roberts Talks Getting Serious (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/03/cubs-orioles-ro.html)

Next, its going to get "Really serious" and then "Super serious". Right now MacPhail is letting Hendry feel him up, but won't let him go all the way yet. But Hendry will keep calling and calling and eventually MacPhail will stop being such a cock tease and will let Hendry get him drunk, take him home and have his way with him. And after all that happens, Hendry still won't have a deal. Just blue balls and a sore ass.

I'm as sick of hearing these rumors as I was about the Santana deal. Just do it or don't do it. If you can't get a deal done, call an escort service.

[cougarjake13]

it wont happen



































































until it does

[jauble]

Cubs-Orioles Roberts Talks Getting Serious (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/03/cubs-orioles-ro.html)

Next, its going to get "Really serious" and then "Super serious". Right now MacPhail is letting Hendry feel him up, but won't let him go all the way yet. But Hendry will keep calling and calling and eventually MacPhail will stop being such a cock tease and will let Hendry get him drunk, take him home and have his way with him. And after all that happens, Hendry still won't have a deal. Just blue balls and a sore ass.

I'm as sick of hearing these rumors as I was about the Santana deal. Just do it or don't do it. If you can't get a deal done, call an escort service.

you mean super serial?

http://www.theodoresworld.net/pics/0506/al_gore-SouthparkImage2.jpg


manbearpig is real

[Bulldogcakes]

Felix Pie Out With a Twisted Testicle (http://larrybrownsports.com/baseball/felix-pie-twisted-testicle-injury/)

Much like Ken Griffey Jr. who suffered an injury to his nuts recently, Felix Pie is also hurting in the family jewels. The dude apparently missed a few games this spring because of one odd injury — he was out with has been described as a “twisted testicle.” No joke. From the Cubs’ official site, where they talked about Alfonso Soriano’s injury:

The Cubs have had a variety of injuries this spring. So far, infielder Mark DeRosa was hospitalized with an irregular heartbeat, pitcher Jose Ascanio had a bruised face after getting punched in a robbery attempt, and outfielder Felix Pie missed a couple of days early because of a twisted testicle. Third baseman Aramis Ramirez remains sidelined with a sore right shoulder.


I have nothing to add.

[Bulldogcakes]

Tigers Look To Cubs For Relief (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/03/tigers-look-to.html)

According to Jon Paul Morosi of the Detroit Free Press, "the Tigers have had general discussions with the Chicago Cubs about acquiring bullpen help." Detroit's pen has dealt with all kinds of injuries this year.

Morosi implies that Brandon Inge could be a fit for the Cubs if he could prove a capable center fielder. Seems a long shot though. In any case, Ryan Dempster could be a possible fit for Detroit. He's set to earn a hefty $5.5MM this year and doesn't seem to have a clear place on the Cubs' staff. Neither does Jason Marquis, but he's not what the Tigers need.


All of a sudden, everybody wants to trade with the Cubs.

[cougarjake13]

Tigers Look To Cubs For Relief (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/03/tigers-look-to.html)



All of a sudden, everybody wants to trade with the Cubs.

i guess they got what everybody needs

[TheMojoPin]

Tigers Look To Cubs For Relief (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/03/tigers-look-to.html)



All of a sudden, everybody wants to trade with the Cubs.

They don't really have anything they'd likely be willing to give up that the Cubs need.

Carlos Marmol for Renteria.

[TheMojoPin]

Here's a fan's comp of what he thought were the Cubs 10 best HR's in 2007. Except for 1, they're all at Wrigley, which is cool, but they had afew on the road that should have been on it, namely Cliff Floyd's towering bomb into the river at Pittsburgh that even had the Pirate's parrot staring in disbelief.

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[Knowledged_one]

Paging Mojo, Paging Jauble

Im guessing you guys hate the following news

From the Chicago Sun-times:

Sources confirmed Thursday that the Cubs have a four-player offer for Roberts on the table that includes the addition of hard-throwing pitching prospect Jose Ceda. Infielder Ronny Cedeno and pitchers Sean Gallagher and Donnie Veal also are in the package.

The Cubs and Baltimore Orioles talked again during the past week, and insiders in both camps have expressed strong feelings that a deal will get done for the All-Star second baseman. However, they consider it likely to take an 11th-hour agreement before the openers on March 31.

It's also possible the deal could grow to include pitcher Jason Marquis going to Baltimore and outfielder Jay Payton coming to the Cubs in a 5-for-2 or 6-for-2 trade that likely would include cash.

[Ritalin]

Here's a fan's comp of what he thought were the Cubs 10 best HR's in 2007. Except for 1, they're all at Wrigley, which is cool, but they had afew on the road that should have been on it, namely Cliff Floyd's towering bomb into the river at Pittsburgh that even had the Pirate's parrot staring in disbelief.

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"Chicago style salami"? Who's that douchebag?

[IMSlacker]

Paging Mojo, Paging Jauble

Im guessing you guys hate the following news

From the Chicago Sun-times:

Sources confirmed Thursday that the Cubs have a four-player offer for Roberts on the table that includes the addition of hard-throwing pitching prospect Jose Ceda. Infielder Ronny Cedeno and pitchers Sean Gallagher and Donnie Veal also are in the package.

The Cubs and Baltimore Orioles talked again during the past week, and insiders in both camps have expressed strong feelings that a deal will get done for the All-Star second baseman. However, they consider it likely to take an 11th-hour agreement before the openers on March 31.

It's also possible the deal could grow to include pitcher Jason Marquis going to Baltimore and outfielder Jay Payton coming to the Cubs in a 5-for-2 or 6-for-2 trade that likely would include cash.

I just don't get why Hendry seems to have such a hard-on for Roberts. That's a lot of young pitching to give up. Hopefully, this will be another untrue rumor.

[jauble]

Paging Mojo, Paging Jauble

Im guessing you guys hate the following news

From the Chicago Sun-times:

Sources confirmed Thursday that the Cubs have a four-player offer for Roberts on the table that includes the addition of hard-throwing pitching prospect Jose Ceda. Infielder Ronny Cedeno and pitchers Sean Gallagher and Donnie Veal also are in the package.

The Cubs and Baltimore Orioles talked again during the past week, and insiders in both camps have expressed strong feelings that a deal will get done for the All-Star second baseman. However, they consider it likely to take an 11th-hour agreement before the openers on March 31.

It's also possible the deal could grow to include pitcher Jason Marquis going to Baltimore and outfielder Jay Payton coming to the Cubs in a 5-for-2 or 6-for-2 trade that likely would include cash.

From what I recall Cedeno and Gallagher have been part of the package deal so thats not too bad. With Roberts we could have a combo of a Theriot/Derosa playing SS, plus that opens Derosa to be utilty whenever they need him to move around for injuries rest etc. With Roberts we get a better glove at second and another threat that can bat lefty and is quick and could give Soriano's legs a break. As far as Marquis is concerned and I think mojo might agree with me...I dont care, I would trade him for baseball cards let alone an actual player. I hope that part goes through, I never liked him when he was a card, never as a cub and really the only good thing he has done in my mind was when he hit hippo with a pitch when they were younger.

[TheMojoPin]

"Chicago style salami"? Who's that douchebag?

Not the Cubs' announcers, thankfully.

[TheMojoPin]

From what I recall Cedeno and Gallagher have been part of the package deal so thats not too bad. With Roberts we could have a combo of a Theriot/Derosa playing SS, plus that opens Derosa to be utilty whenever they need him to move around for injuries rest etc. With Roberts we get a better glove at second and another threat that can bat lefty and is quick and could give Soriano's legs a break. As far as Marquis is concerned and I think mojo might agree with me...I dont care, I would trade him for baseball cards let alone an actual player. I hope that part goes through, I never liked him when he was a card, never as a cub and really the only good thing he has done in my mind was when he hit hippo with a pitch when they were younger.

I hate, hate, hate, HATE this deal, and I hope it dies.

At the very least, the Cubs already improved themselves by picking up Fukudome. The division is still crap, so at the very least they're already contending. The trade deadline is months away. Why give up so many key trade pieces now on an arguably VERY redundant player (DeRosa at 2nd, Fukudome hits for crazy OBP and lefthanded and should hit #2, Soriano, produces best as a leadoff, etc.)? And why give up so many pitchers when the starting pitching situation is VERY precarious given how many crappy/old guys are fighting for the last two slots? So many players will become available between now and the deadline...ideally at spots the Cubs need to fill much more desperately than 2nd. I fucking loathe this deal, and if it goes down, Hendry is shortsighted ass.

And fuck, I'd love trading Marquis, but if it's for Payton, their should be NO fucking cash sent by the Cubs. Payton has a shitty contract himself...just swap contracts and be done with it. But even here, trading Marquis is potentilly a waste. Marquis almost always does passably in the first half. Let him get off to a decent start and then ship him to a team that isn't as insane as the Orioles. The Red Sox have expressed interest in Marquis as an innings eater...packagae him, cash and a prospect for Crisp since he was to go. Don't dump everything on Baltimore.

[jauble]

Not a good deal but I'm not suprised by it in general the only thing that made me happy was the Marquis part. I have a feeling this might happen though so Im trying to look at any positive.

[Kevin]

I hate, hate, hate, HATE this deal, and I hope it dies.

At the very least, the Cubs already improved themselves by picking up Fukudome. The division is still crap, so at the very least they're already contending. The trade deadline is months away. Why give up so many key trade pieces now on an arguably VERY redundant player (DeRosa at 2nd, Fukudome hits for crazy OBP and lefthanded and should hit #2, Soriano, produces best as a leadoff, etc.)? And why give up so many pitchers when the starting pitching situation is VERY precarious given how many crappy/old guys are fighting for the last two slots? So many players will become available between now and the deadline...ideally at spots the Cubs need to fill much more desperately than 2nd. I fucking loathe this deal, and if it goes down, Hendry is shortsighted ass.

And fuck, I'd love trading Marquis, but if it's for Payton, their should be NO fucking cash sent by the Cubs. Payton has a shitty contract himself...just swap contracts and be done with it. But even here, trading Marquis is potentilly a waste. Marquis almost always does passably in the first half. Let him get off to a decent start and then ship him to a team that isn't as insane as the Orioles. The Red Sox have expressed interest in Marquis as an innings eater...packagae him, cash and a prospect for Crisp since he was to go. Don't dump everything on Baltimore.

I remember back in the early 2000's when the Rangers (NHL)were making shitty moves signing high priced old guys, dealing for them. A beat writer came up with this point. He said it does not matter if those guys you traded did not really turn out to be great for other teams. The thing that matters is you could have gotten much more for those guys then what you got. I feel the same way about this Cubs deal. Maybe the pitchers and pllayers wont turn out, but you could get so much more talent than Roberts with that package. Roberts is a nice player who had 1 great steroid helped year, otherwise he is not really that special.. And to trade that many young good prospects for him seems like lunacy to me.

[Ritalin]

Just read Mariotti's column today.

I think he's wrong. Wood belongs in the closer role. If he breaks down, then you put Marmol in there.

[IMSlacker]

Just read Mariotti's column today.

I think he's wrong. Wood belongs in the closer role. If he breaks down, then you put Marmol in there.

There are very few things that are a bigger waste of time than reading a Jay Mariotti column.

[TheMojoPin]

Mariotti is a dolt.

I like Wood as a a closer, but I think ultimately Marmol would be wasted there since he's such a good reliever. Sure, if it's a really close game, yeah, I feel better about Marmol going out...but that's not alwas the case. Anytime he'd be going out to close with the Cubs winning by 2 runs or more would be a waste of his skills. He's shown that he can put out fires...I'd much rather have him be able to come in when the game is close and there are guys on base and he needs to shut the other team down because their best hitters are up or about to come up, not coming in at the start of the inning with nobody on base and hump hitters due up. Relief pitching in the 6-8 innings tends to be much more vital and necessary than what trhe regular closer has to do.

[jauble]

Carlos Zambrano, Ted Lilly, Ryan Dempster, Rich Hill and Jason Marquis will be starters with Wood selected as closer. Lieber moved to long relief.

[TheMojoPin]

Carlos Zambrano, Ted Lilly, Ryan Dempster, Rich Hill and Jason Marquis will be starters. Lieber moved to long relief.

Yeah, this has been pissing me off all day. It's a battle between two humps, but Lieber has had a much better career as astarter and his spring has been damn good, especially compared to Dempster. Dempster as a starter makes zero sense unless they're hoping he can string together a month's worth of non-disaster starting and be able to trade him off since this is the last year of his contract.

On the upside, it sounds like the Roberts deal is all but dead. The Cubs could very easily replicate his production by essentially platooning DeRosa and Patterson at 2nd.

[TheMojoPin]

Cubs signd Reed Johnson for 1 year and $1.5 million...good signing. He can platoon with Pie in CF when lefites are pitching and can play the other OF spots...good OBP, too.

I'd really like to see them get Felipe Lopez from the Nats since he wants out of there.

[Knowledged_one]

Yeah, this has been pissing me off all day. It's a battle between two humps, but Lieber has had a much better career as astarter and his spring has been damn good, especially compared to Dempster. Dempster as a starter makes zero sense unless they're hoping he can string together a month's worth of non-disaster starting and be able to trade him off since this is the last year of his contract.

On the upside, it sounds like the Roberts deal is all but dead. The Cubs could very easily replicate his production by essentially platooning DeRosa and Patterson at 2nd.

Yeah the Roberts deal is done for now, but to say that DeRosa and Patterson will replicate his production is a bit far fetched

And how about one of the center pieces in the trade (Gallagher) was cut by the Cubs wasnt he?

[Kevin]

Cubs signd Reed Johnson for 1 year and $1.5 million...good signing. He can platoon with Pie in CF when lefites are pitching and can play the other OF spots...good OBP, too.

I'd really like to see them get Felipe Lopez from the Nats since he wants out of there.

Watching Reed like a 100 times a year against the Yankees, It is a good signing. He is not great but is fundamentally sound and will fit in very well.

[TheMojoPin]

Yeah the Roberts deal is done for now, but to say that DeRosa and Patterson will replicate his production is a bit far fetched

You'd get the steals from Patterson. You get the OBP from DeRosa. I'm not saying Roberts is a bad player, but he's not an exceptional one whose performance can't be matched or at least get something similar through other players or combos.

And how about one of the center pieces in the trade (Gallagher) was cut by the Cubs wasnt he?

He was cut so he can pitch fulltime. Gallagher is very highly rated around baseball. He was sent down to the minors so he can start...the bullpen and starting rotation are full right now, so they want him pitching instead of just sitting around. If the Cubs trade away some of their rotation or some of it tanks, watch him get called up to start later in the year.

[IMSlacker]

Patterson was sent to AAA today, so it looks like a Derosa/Fontenot platoon, at least to start the season.

[TheMojoPin]

Patterson was sent to AAA today, so it looks like a Derosa/Fontenot platoon, at least to start the season.

*BARF*

Fontenot is beyond worthless. I'm sick of career AAAA LSUer's wasting roster spots. Patterson can at least play a couple of positions if need be. Fontenot can ONLY play 2nd.

[spoon]

Watching Reed like a 100 times a year against the Yankees, It is a good signing. He is not great but is fundamentally sound and will fit in very well.

Good thing the Jays keep GIVING away it's players to the fucking Cubs!! No lie, this guy is one hell of a fielder/grinder. I'm pissed beyond belief with his exit, especially the lack of a trade for fucking something. Hell, he hit well over .300 his last/first FULL season, led the league in OBP, and made some AMAZING plays in the field. He'll bunt, take a pitch off the elbow (more than anyone I've ever seen) or situational hit with the best of them.

You got yourself a gamer here, be happy.

[TheMojoPin]

Good thing the Jays keep GIVING away it's players to the fucking Cubs!! No lie, this guy is one hell of a fielder/grinder. I'm pissed beyond belief with his exit, especially the lack of a trade for fucking something. Hell, he hit well over .300 his last/first FULL season, led the league in OBP, and made some AMAZING plays in the field. He'll bunt, take a pitch off the elbow (more than anyone I've ever seen) or situational hit with the best of them.

You got yourself a gamer here, be happy.

I am, trust me. On days he starts, I'd love to see him hitting #1 and Fukudome hitting #2. Both guys know how to take a bunch of pitches and get on base by any means necessary. Perfect table setters.

[spoon]

Yah, not sure what the Jays were thinking with the way it all went down.

[TheMojoPin]

Yah, not sure what the Jays were thinking with the way it all went down.

I just wish the rumored Dempster/DeRosa/prospect or cash for AJ Burnett deal had gone down. Of course, that would have hinged on getting Roberts. Of course, if that rumored deal with the Jays had a shot, then I wouldn't have hated the Roberts deal. Ah, such is baseball...

[Jughead]

They just uncovered the field..Maybe getting ready to re start after the rain delay???

[Ritalin]

Just tuned in here in Queens, top of the 7th, no score.

(what the hell is Brent Musburger doing there? Ah, what am I complaining about? I'M WATCHING THE CUBBIES. Life is good)

(Cubs I pretended I was when I was growing up playing Little League: George Mitterwald and Champ Summers)

[Jughead]

Just tuned in here in Queens, top of the 7th, no score.

(what the hell is Brent Musburger doing there? Ah, what am I complaining about? I'M WATCHING THE CUBBIES. Life is good)

(Cubs I pretended I was when I was growing up playing Little League: George Mitterwald and Champ Summers)

If ya have a update let me know some customers turned the channel on our tv in the waiting room....For there kids to watch disney:furious:

[IMSlacker]

Ugh. So far Kerry Wood as closer isn't working out so well.

[Kevin]

Ugh. So far Kerry Wood as closer isn't working out so well.

You guys should not have been Sentimental and giving the closer job to Wood instead of that kid that pitched the 8th.. No way Wood gets the job over him if he was just another pitcher on the team.

[BoondockSaint]

You guys should not have been Sentimental and giving the closer job to Wood instead of that kid that pitched the 8th.. No way Wood gets the job over him if he was just another pitcher on the team.

Yeah, Pinella has always been such a teddy bear.

[IMSlacker]

Fortunatley, Eric Gagne, is worse.

[Kevin]

And that is the Eric Gange we all know and Love..


10 MILLION??
REALLY??
10 MILLION?

[Ritalin]

FUKUDOME!

Hell yes!

[joeyballsack]

Great debut by Fukodome.

Gagne should commit hari kari.

[Jughead]

What happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[IMSlacker]

What happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kerry Wood gave up 3 runs in the top of the 9th. Then Gagne walked the first two batters and Fukudome hit a three run homer. Now Pie is on first with two outs. Fontenot up.

[Jughead]

Kerry Wood gave up 3 runs in the top of the 9th. Then Gagne walked the first two batters and Fukudome hit a three run homer. Now Pie is on first with two outs. Fontenot up.

Awsome!!!!Thanks slacker..Damn last day of the month...:wallbash:

[IMSlacker]

Awsome!!!!Thanks slacker..Damn last day of the month...:wallbash:

Fontenot ground out. Going to the 10th.

[joeyballsack]

Does gagne have a case of the vapors. He keeps fanning himself like a 50 year old menopausal woman.

[jauble]

Marmol is a great option as a setup man where he may be wasted as a closer. That said his slider was sick today.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Wood 0 for 1

you guys need a plan B

so do the brewers

[jauble]

Wood 0 for 1

you guys need a plan B

so do the brewers

Its game one hippo this isnt football and they arent the browns.

[epo]

Does gagne have a case of the vapors. He keeps fanning himself like a 50 year old menopausal woman.

Humidity + Glasses = Problem.

But it's no problem winning! Gee Gee Gee.

[Ritalin]

Well, I guess the Cubs won't be able to sell beer this year.

[A.J.]

Gagne should commit hari kari.

He's already used to jabbing himself with needles -- why not a sword?

[TheMojoPin]

You guys should not have been Sentimental and giving the closer job to Wood instead of that kid that pitched the 8th.. No way Wood gets the job over him if he was just another pitcher on the team.

As others have pointed out, that's a waste of Marmol. Marmol puts out fires, like he did on Monday. Tha's when you need him available, and the Cub should be looking to sell high for him b the trade deadline. Contrary to Monday, they do have an excellent bullpen, and ultimately you trade a reliever when he can help you seriously upgrade as a part of a package deal. Wood's relief numbers have ranged from very good to excellent, so given that it was the first game of the season, the weather was hideous and he was adjusting to a new role (even though Monday was a non-save situation), I see zero reason to panic.

I was much more frustrated with Lee, Ramirez and Soriano managing one hit between them.

[Knowledged_one]

Real good pitcher and catcher there with the Cubs

Hart and Soto had 4 bases stolen on them in the 6th

[TheMojoPin]

Man, I had tickets to today's game, but I woke up sick as hell and I need to make it to class tonight so I ended up selling them off. Glad I did, since the Cubs are looking as bad as I feel.

[TheMojoPin]

The final game in the opening series against the Brewers is about to start on WGN for anyone wanting to watch...I fear a sweep with Dempster on the mound.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

thought I stole a 3rd round pick with Soriano

He is fucking 0 for Texas

come on , don't get sweeped by the fighting Epos

[Knowledged_one]

No Cubs on my team but i do have Ryan Braun so go Brew Crew

And i believe that Soriano started out really slow last year as well i wouldnt worry too much

[King Hippos Bandaid]

No Cubs on my team but i do have Ryan Braun so go Brew Crew

And i believe that Soriano started out really slow last year as well i wouldnt worry too much

I know, I still ridicule them when they dont produce

only in one pay league, so all my eggs are in one basket

[Knowledged_one]

I know, I still ridicule them when they dont produce

only in one pay league, so all my eggs are in one basket

You and me both, one league money only league, and ours is a salary cap league so its even tougher for me damn salary cap

[TheMojoPin]

Well, he's finally on the board with a single and an RBI, Hippo.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Well, he's finally on the board with a single and an RBI, Hippo.


just saw love the free mlb preview on Direct TV

cmon Cubs, I dont hate ya

[jauble]

I was fairly happy with Demp today. Better than I thought he would be. Also nice to see a few bats working today.

[TheMojoPin]

I was fairly happy with Demp today. Better than I thought he would be. Also nice to see a few bats working today.

Hopefully he can look decent the first month or two. If he does, with only 1 year left on his contract, he'd be primo trade bait. Him, Murton and Marmol (if they don't think he can start) at the least should all be moved, especially if they can net the Cubs a serious SS upgrade (which would probably involve Cedeno going, too).

[Knowledged_one]

Hopefully he can look decent the first month or two. If he does, with only 1 year left on his contract, he'd be primo trade bait. Him, Murton and Marmol (if they don't think he can start) at the least should all be moved, especially if they can net the Cubs a serious SS upgrade (which would probably involve Cedeno going, too).

Well i figure once Kerry Wood phails (and we all know it will happen) and the 2nd baseman still cant hit i see the Cubs pulling the trigger on a deal for Roberts and George Sherrill and the Cubs give up the farm to win the title

[jauble]

Hopefully he can look decent the first month or two. If he does, with only 1 year left on his contract, he'd be primo trade bait. Him, Murton and Marmol (if they don't think he can start) at the least should all be moved, especially if they can net the Cubs a serious SS upgrade (which would probably involve Cedeno going, too).

I really like Marmol so I would hate to see him leave, watching the movement on his pitches is nasty. However if it happens it does but I see him being more consistent in the future so thats my only big problem with him leaving.

[TheMojoPin]

Well i figure once Kerry Wood phails (and we all know it will happen) and the 2nd baseman still cant hit i see the Cubs pulling the trigger on a deal for Roberts and George Sherrill and the Cubs give up the farm to win the title

The Roberts deal still makes zero sense for as much as it would cost and that they don't need a 2nd baseman, which is why it scares me that the Cubs will still pounce on it.

[TheMojoPin]

Good start for Wood. Strikes out Hart swinging on 4 pitches.

[TheMojoPin]

I really like Marmol so I would hate to see him leave, watching the movement on his pitches is nasty. However if it happens it does but I see him being more consistent in the future so thats my only big problem with him leaving.

I love watching Marmol pitch, but unless he can be a starter (and as violent as his pitching motion is, I doubt it), he's ultimately just a reliever, and if he can be used to help seriously upgrade the team, you pull the trigger and move him.

[jauble]

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[TheMojoPin]

Yeah! Wood's first save! Gave up 1 hit, but had 2 k's and looked filthy. Touched 98 at one point.

[IMSlacker]

Huzzah!

[cougarjake13]

Yeah! Wood's first save! Gave up 1 hit, but had 2 k's and looked filthy. Touched 98 at one point.

1 for 2 aint bad

[jauble]

I was happy to see them play ball for real today. Sure the two losses were not a good start, but its the cubs. I am glad to see them picking up a little in this last game. Hit decent, ran well, and with the exception of a throwing error they played well in the field.

[TheMojoPin]

Now if Lou would just stop being retarded and bat Theriot 8th or 9th and move Fukudome up to #2, I could be happy.

Then trade Murton/Marmol/Marshall/Cedeno for Kahlil Greene, bat him 5th and kick Theriot to the end of the bench.

Rock it.

[jauble]

As good as Greene is I still loathe him. Until he puts on some cubbie blue and does well. Until then...:furious:

[TheMojoPin]

As good as Greene is I still loathe him. Until he puts on some cubbie blue and does well. Until then...:furious:

Damn right, you would love him as a Cub. I pop a boner looking at that away OPS and imagine what both would grow to with him hitting half of the year in Wrigley and away from those insane cavernous ballparks out west.

[jauble]

Damn right, you would love him as a Cub. I pop a boner looking at that away OPS and imagine what both would grow to with him hitting half of the year in Wrigley and away from those insane cavernous ballparks out west.

As long as you agree that until he is in a decent uniform he is a cunt then I concede.

[Kevin]

As long as you agree that until he is in a decent uniform he is a cunt then I concede.

Come on, Why the Spacolli hate?

[TheMojoPin]

As long as you agree that until he is in a decent uniform he is a cunt then I concede.

What has he done that has given him cuntdom? Not that he isn't...I just don't know anything cuntable about him.

And if it wasn't too much trouble, could you whip me up a Fukudome sig pic? That one you have is badass!

[Knowledged_one]

Thats some team the Cubs have out there hitting, 1 hit today, only 5 hits between Ramirez, Soriano and Lee

Are the Cubs using thinner bats then everyone else?

And is it safe to say that the following has happened

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the

http://www.sacred-destinations.com/england/images/avebury/silbury-hill/silbury-hill-hdr-cc-tag.jpg

[TheMojoPin]

Thats some team the Cubs have out there hitting, 1 hit today, only 5 hits between Ramirez, Soriano and Lee

Are the Cubs using thinner bats then everyone else?

Nah, just more of the same...soft tossing rookie or journeyman pitcher on the mound, they don't stand a chance.

[jauble]

What has he done that has given him cuntdom? Not that he isn't...I just don't know anything cuntable about him.

And if it wasn't too much trouble, could you whip me up a Fukudome sig pic? That one you have is badass!

Greene is cunty because of how he has performed against the cubs...well. He is a good player but he always seemed to be clutch. As far as the sig pic ask spadanko, thats who made mine.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

you're a better team then the stros

hopefully whoever they have closing can blow a save

[TheMojoPin]

you're a better team then the stros

That's a damn dirty lie.

[Knowledged_one]

Nice 1-3 start there, a few more of these and hello Roberts

I forgot i have Rich Hill on my fantasy team what a great non-descript start for him for the season, maybe i should cut him to pick up Jake Westbrook and save some money at the same time

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I bet my Buddy Marquis will give you the only quality start of the week

[TheMojoPin]

I bet my Buddy Marquis will give you the only quality start of the week

How was Zambrano's not a quality start?

Hill pitched well, Dempster pitched great...hell, outside of one disaster inning, Lilly did pretty well. It's the lack of hitting that's stunk it up.

[IMSlacker]

I bet my Buddy Marquis will give you the only quality start of the week

Dumpster had a quality start yesterday.

[IMSlacker]

How was Zambrano's not a quality start?

Hill pitched well, Dempster pitched great...hell, outside of one disaster inning, Lilly did pretty well. It's the lack of hitting that's stunk it up.

Oops, yeah. Zambrano and Hill had quality starts too. Outside of Lilly, starting pitching hasn't been a problem.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I know Demp and Zambrano did

was just being an instigating jerk

[IMSlacker]

I know Demp and Zambrano did

was just being an instigating jerk

Stop tarnishing.