New York Yankee 2007 Post Season Thread

[mikeyboy]

Have at it.

[Bulldogcakes]

What does it say about us that the Yankee thread is more popular than the "I Love Ass" and Hot Chic Pic Game" COMBINED?!

[Kevin]

What does it say about us that the Yankee thread is more popular than the "I Love Ass" and Hot Chic Pic Game, NY Mets Thread" COMBINED?!

Pretty cool.

[mikeyboy]

What does it say about us that the Yankee thread is more popular than the "I Love Ass" and Hot Chic Pic Game" COMBINED?!

That this board is sooooo gay.

[Bossanova]

That this board is sooooo gay.

Damn you beat me to it.

[TheGameHHH]

What does it say about us that the Yankee thread is more popular than the "I Love Ass" and Hot Chic Pic Game" COMBINED?!

gotta agree with mikeyboy here, it says we're a bunch of homos

[Bulldogcakes]

Notes: Talks don't bother teammates
Yankees' attempt to extend A-Rod's contract causes no strife (http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070712&content_id=2083115&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy)

[Kevin]

This move makes me think of what Torre Hysterically said with Chris Russo today,,


"When the time comes for me to chose if i should leave my starter in the game, or bring in a RP.. I usually like to leave the starter in..."

So i scream


SINCE WHEN??

[BoondockSaint]

I thought it was funny today when Torre said that over the break he played some watersports. ewwwwwww.

[BeltOfScotch]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2933639

Does that mean that no matter what, he will not negotiate before the season ends?

"Correct," Rodriguez said.

As for why the Yankees went away from their rules, they're desperate, and it's not the first time this season. It wasn't that long ago that they said Clemens could leave when he wasn't pitching because they were desperate for a starting pitcher.

ARod leaving would be an enormous blow to this team, so I'm sure the thought process was that they would be insane to not at least try to make something happen now. Yeah, there might be part of the fan base that thinks this is ARod turning his back on the Yankees and that he obviously wants out. Those people are like the guy who I heard tell Chris Russo yesterday that the Yankees should let ARod go because they'd be better off with a Scott Brosius type at third base. And maybe there's a little PR to this where they want to make sure the fans know they tried in case he leaves, but I just don't think it's leading up to a trade because as I've said before, a trade just doesn't work.

They need this guy, badly, and they're gonna have to find a way to keep him. Maybe after the season they can't get something done before he opts out, but they may have to be ready to get into a bidding war. In a lot of those situations I would say just let the guy go, but that's not plausible here.

[cougarjake13]

What does it say about us that the Yankee thread is more popular than the "I Love Ass" and Hot Chic Pic Game" COMBINED?!

that yankee fans are the A-Rods of this board ??

[Bossanova]

that yankee fans are the A-Rods of this board ??

Which one? Wierd, reason for down fall, a distraction, or gay

[cougarjake13]

Which one? Wierd, reason for down fall, a distraction, or gay

look at his question and then look at your answers

[Kevin]

Which one? Wierd, reason for down fall, a distraction, or gay


You sure your not talkin about Reyes??

[Bossanova]

You sure your not talkin about Reyes??
Oh now you like A-Rod you prick

[cougarjake13]

Oh now you like A-Rod you prick

he likes All the yankees rods

[Bossanova]

:lol:he likes All the yankees rods

[Kevin]

:lol:

I am not the one with the Gay Jose Reyes love, everyday..

[Kevin]

Is GOOD!

[BoondockSaint]

I am not the one with the Gay Jose Reyes love, everyday..

Actually, you bring him up more than anyone else.

[cougarjake13]

Actually, you bring him up more than anyone else.

yep i can attest to that

maybe he's a closet mets fan ???

[Kevin]

Actually, you bring him up more than anyone else.


If Jose reyes wins 4 rings.. Ill let you pee in my ear..

[Bossanova]

Actually, you bring him up more than anyone else.

yep i can attest to that

maybe he's a closet mets fan ???

You know that is very true

[cougarjake13]

If Jose reyes wins 4 rings.. Ill let you pee in my ear..

well since you didnt specify if it had to be world series rings,

what if he wins a few rings from a crackerjack box ??? will they count ??

[Tenbatsuzen]

Did anyone pick up on the fact that if the Yankees don't make the playoffs and then re-sign A-Rod at 30/a year, how much shit will hit the fan if they make the playoffs next year and A-Rod blows up again?

[Tenbatsuzen]

What does it say about us that the Yankee thread is more popular than the "I Love Ass" and Hot Chic Pic Game" COMBINED?!

It says nothing. Mainly because the Hot Chick pic game has over one million views. The Yankee thread had 30,000. Don't confuse number of posts with how popular a thread is.

[Kevin]

well since you didnt specify if it had to be world series rings,

what if he wins a few rings from a crackerjack box ??? will they count ??

Boony perfectly got what i meant with that one..

[TheGameHHH]

Did anyone pick up on the fact that if the Yankees don't make the playoffs and then re-sign A-Rod at 30/a year, how much shit will hit the fan if they make the playoffs next year and A-Rod blows up again?

no shit should hit the fan, having A-Rod on the team is a smart move. everyone forgets the 2004 playoffs, most people act like A-Rod wasnt the reason they beat the Twins. THEY WOULD HAVE NEVER GOTTEN TO THE ACLS WITHOUT A-ROD PLEASE STOP IGNORING THAT.

[Doctor Z]

I was in Fenway Park for Game 4 of the 2004 ALCS ((shudder))

A-Rod hit a homerun over the monster in that game.

[Bulldogcakes]

It says nothing. Mainly because the Hot Chick pic game has over one million views. The Yankee thread had 30,000. Don't confuse number of posts with how popular a thread is.

Maybe we should start posting pictures
http://www.freewebs.com/realyankeehaters/GayRod.jpg
http://www.freewebs.com/realyankeehaters/Gay.jpg
http://www.stonewallvets.org/images/parade_34/yankees201.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/KappaJota/yankee.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e394/dirtyberry1978/Told_You_the_Yankees_Are_Gay_2.gif

[BeltOfScotch]

Doh, at least they had a good win last night

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2933639

Citing an anonymous source, the New York Daily News reported Friday that the Yankees have "made it clear" to Rodriguez and his agent, Scott Boras, that if the player opts out, his days as a Yankee will be over. The newspaper said the Yankees have no intention of being part of a bidding war if Rodriguez hits the open market.

[Doctor Z]

Well, that was fun while it lasted...

Let's hope he can hit 62 this year, break the club record (and legit HR record). That way, the Yankees will look even more idiotic for letting him go.

NOTHING has EVER stopped the Yankees from overspending, from brilliant acquisitions like Kevin Brown, Carl Pavano, Jason Giambi, Randy Johnson, Kei Igawa, the list goes on... Yet, somehow NOW, with a guy who could potentially finish his career with the greatest numbers of all time, we decide to get cheap. Amazing.

[JPMNICK]

Doh, at least they had a good win last night

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2933639

Citing an anonymous source, the New York Daily News reported Friday that the Yankees have "made it clear" to Rodriguez and his agent, Scott Boras, that if the player opts out, his days as a Yankee will be over. The newspaper said the Yankees have no intention of being part of a bidding war if Rodriguez hits the open market.

yea that's a smart move. they have never wasted money before, why do it for arod. make sure that the checks keep clearing for Pavano

[Tenbatsuzen]

yea that's a smart move. they have never wasted money before, why do it for arod. make sure that the checks keep clearing for Pavano

You don't get it.

He's already being paid an absurd amount of money. If he opts out, it's not like he's a rookie making 800K a year and had a monster year.

If he opts, he's basically showing he's greedy and he doesn't want to be a Yankee. It's insulting. He opts out, fuck him.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Well, that was fun while it lasted...

Let's hope he can hit 62 this year, break the club record (and legit HR record). That way, the Yankees will look even more idiotic for letting him go.

NOTHING has EVER stopped the Yankees from overspending, from brilliant acquisitions like Kevin Brown, Carl Pavano, Jason Giambi, Randy Johnson, Kei Igawa, the list goes on... Yet, somehow NOW, with a guy who could potentially finish his career with the greatest numbers of all time, we decide to get cheap. Amazing.

But ALL of those players were problems in the clubhouse except for Giambi, and he had exterior problems. Igawa is still too soon to call - perhaps you can turn him into a decent middle reliever.

That being said, all of those players have had a three-year shelf life except for Giambi.

[JPMNICK]

You don't get it.

He's already being paid an absurd amount of money. If he opts out, it's not like he's a rookie making 800K a year and had a monster year.

If he opts, he's basically showing he's greedy and he doesn't want to be a Yankee. It's insulting. He opts out, fuck him.


opting out might just be his way of saying he is sick of NYC, sick of playing 3rd, sick of being 2nd to Jeter, and sick of all the bullshit that comes along with being a Yankee. i am sure for the same pay he would go somewhere else.

my point is that they should let him make that call. by not giving him any money, they do not even give him the chance. and as for an insult, oh well, the Yankees need him

[TheGameHHH]

I'm calling a press conference today to state that i am finished talking about A-Rod's contract situation until after this season. My focus right now is to root hard for my team to win.

[Doctor Z]

Clitoris.

[Bulldogcakes]

To understand where the Yankee front office is coming from, they've been saying since last year that they have reason to believe A-Rod WILL Opt-out, and has no intention of coming back here. So far they look like Kreskin.

Lets face it, before this year it hasn't exactly been a happy marriage. The fans got on him like crazy, he sucked in the clutch and in the playoffs, had a defensive meltdown around mid last year that got scary, and his personality doesn't seem to fit here. And thats just on the field, off the field you have the T-Shirt wife, tranny girlfriends and late night swinger's clubs and illegal gambling joints. Also throw in that he cleared the air in spring training about how he and Jeter don't really get along. I suspect the reason why he's playing so well is he sees the light at the end of the tunnel and is writing his ticket out of here. He wants to go somewhere and be "THE guy" and he never will get that here. The Yanks are too big and its Jeter's team no matter what.

For those of you saying "Just spend the money" you don't get it. He's not coming back. The Yanks will prove this to you beyond a reasonable doubt over the next few weeks. They will offer him a big money extension (30-35 per), he'll say no and then no one will be able to argue he wants to be here. Plus spending that kind of money for any one player is stupid anyway. The overall team will be better spreading that kind of money around. Teams that spend 15-18% on any one player have always losing records since 1985, and there's reasons for that. Let him go to the Cubs and lose, or even better go to the Angels and leave them cash strapped for the next 8 years just like Texas was with him (They have similar revenues).

I'll keep saying this over and over. The 1998 Yankees, the best Yankee team any of us has ever seen, didn't have a single starter on the All-Star team that year. Its not the end of the world.

[Kevin]

If he wants to leave.. Fuck him.. Let him go.. You know we are winning the world series next year if he leaves.. Just to fuck with him.

[Bulldogcakes]

Yankees opt to give A-Rod an ultimatum (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2007/07/13/2007-07-13_yankees_opt_to_give_arod_an_ultimatum-1.html)

Privately, however, the Yankees have decided that they will not be used as a bargaining chip if A-Rod chooses to hit the open market. If the Yankees stick to their word, it would damage A-Rod's leverage with other teams to not have the Yankees involved.

Finding a team to shell out that cash might be hard, as sources around baseball don't believe that the Angels - considered by many to be the frontrunner if A-Rod opts out - will give him the money he wants. One source said that neither Angels manager Mike Scioscia nor GM Bill Stoneman is pushing to add Rodriguez.

It is also unclear whether the Cubs, White Sox or Dodgers would pony up the $180 million-to-$240 million it likely will take to land A-Rod, so the market could be a tough one without the Yankees involved.

People don't think that Dodgers owner has the cash, The LA Angels don't have big revenues (only a 10 mil TV deal (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/)) and they already spend about 110 mil per year on salaries. A-rod would push them above the luxury tax and they just can't afford that. White Sox look like they'll be rebuildiing, so thats not a situation A-Rod wants to be in.

If Cuban gets approved as the new Cubbies owner (big if, Gammons says it'll never happen) then I can see him doing it and A-Rod wanting to go there. Which probably just means that you can add the Yanks to the list of Bud Selig and Jerry Reinsdorf who don't want Cuban owning a team, making his bid even harder. I don't think it makes sense for any of the other teams.

[TheGameHHH]

Yankees opt to give A-Rod an ultimatum (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2007/07/13/2007-07-13_yankees_opt_to_give_arod_an_ultimatum-1.html)



People don't think that Dodgers owner has the cash, The LA Angels don't have big revenues (only a 10 mil TV deal (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/)) and they already spend about 110 mil per year on salaries. A-rod would push them above the luxury tax and they just can't afford that. White Sox look like they'll be rebuildiing, so thats not a situation A-Rod wants to be in.

If Cuban gets approved as the new Cubbies owner (big if, Gammons says it'll never happen) then I can see him doing it and A-Rod wanting to go there. Which probably just means that you can add the Yanks to the list of Bud Selig and Jerry Reinsdorf who don't want Cuban owning a team, making his bid even harder. I don't think it makes sense for any of the other teams.

so if the yankees cant get him and none of the other teams have the cash for him, where's he going to end up?

[Tenbatsuzen]

I sadly agree with BDC. The Yankees don't "need" anyone. Yes, A-Rod's having a monster year. But what if the Yankees add someone like Torii Hunter? Granted, he's not as great as A-Rod, but we survived when Sheffield left. We survived when other players left.

And people can't seem the grasp the obvious: Even with A-Rod's monster season, chances are VERY slim we are making the playoffs.

[cougarjake13]

went to last nights yanks d rays game

kazmir vs clemens

great match up

too bad the rocket couldnt live up to it

but almost as always the d rays bullpen gave up some runs but for once not the game

[Bulldogcakes]

I sadly agree with BDC.

And people can't seem the grasp the obvious: Even with A-Rod's monster season, chances are VERY slim we are making the playoffs.


Sadly? Why "sadly"? I would think agreeing with me would be cause for celebration. :wink:


Seriously, you're second point is a very important one. Nobody is indispensable on a team that likely won't even make the playoffs (with him having the year of his life). Does that mean they shouldn't try to retain him? No, they'll miss his production, no doubt about it. But the Yanks will always find hitters, thats the easy part. The tough part is getting pitching, and hopefully thats coming from down on the farm for years to come.

[Bulldogcakes]

so if the yankees cant get him and none of the other teams have the cash for him, where's he going to end up?

I think the reason why they're playing hardball with him is because they've analyzed the market and think its a good bet for the reasons I stated. The idea will be to test his intentions, if he wants to come back they'll use the Nov 10th opt out as a deadline to do an extension. If not, A-Rod goes forward knowing the Yanks are out of the bidding which will hurt his bargaining position. All of that being said its possible someone who's laying low right now (like the Giants) might step in and make him a big offer. Sabean just re-signed (http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20070713/APS/707130789), and most writers believe that means they wont offer another deal to Bonds, so thats 16 mil right there. Don't forget that NOBODY heard about San Fran going after Zito until the last minute, so apparently thats how Sabean likes to work. He's smart, and thats a smart way to go after free agents. Plus, the Giants looking to get younger so they'd like to have a star to build around for marketing purposes. So far Zito has been a flop. Also, I hear the strip joints and swingers clubs in San Fran are loaded with tranny types.

Other possibilities I think are the ChiSox, who will pay A-Rod but he'll be stuck on a shit team thats rebuilding. Or he can sign with the Angels, but it would be for less money and lots of it would be deferred.

The deal the Yanks offer him Nov 9th will be for as much as he will get on the open marketplace, if not more. The Yanks want to hold onto that 30mil coming from Texas, A-Rod has no reason to give a shit about that. Once he opts out, that money from Texas is gone. This is a way of trying to make him care. You screw us, fuck you back. If he really wants to be a Yankee, they will work something out. But I don't think he does.

[HBox]

Here's a fun story. Last year the Yankees had Carlos Pena in their farm for most of the year. He was hitting well and towards the end of the year informs Yankee management that he wants a shot in the majors or wants his release. The Yanks were satisfied with Andy Phillips so they grant him his release. He finishes last year on the Red Sox, signs in the offseason with the Devil Rays and is now hitting .280 with 21 HRs with a great glove.

Good thing the Yanks are so logjammed with quality first basemen or they'd look foolish right now.

[BeltOfScotch]

I sadly agree with BDC. The Yankees don't "need" anyone. Yes, A-Rod's having a monster year. But what if the Yankees add someone like Torii Hunter? Granted, he's not as great as A-Rod, but we survived when Sheffield left. We survived when other players left.

And people can't seem the grasp the obvious: Even with A-Rod's monster season, chances are VERY slim we are making the playoffs.

They've survived since Sheffield left? One of the biggest problems with this team right now is the total lack of production from the 3rd hitter. I'm glad Sheffield is gone, but from a pure on the field standpoint he'd help this team.

Torii Hunter is a nice player, but he is in no way anything close to a replacement for ARod. His best year is a bad year for ARod.

The more I think about it, I like what the Yankees are doing here. They aren't going to be held hostage by the guy. As long as they make a market value extension offer before the opt out time period (which I'm sure they will do), if he goes then I can't be angry with what they do.

If he leaves though, it's bad. They'll need to find a big bat for the middle of the lineup, and Torii Hunter is not that guy. Teixeira would be perfect, but he's only got one more year on his deal and guess who his agent is.

[cougarjake13]

They've survived since Sheffield left? One of the biggest problems with this team right now is the total lack of production from the 3rd hitter. I'm glad Sheffield is gone, but from a pure on the field standpoint he'd help this team.

Torii Hunter is a nice player, but he is in no way anything close to a replacement for ARod. His best year is a bad year for ARod.

The more I think about it, I like what the Yankees are doing here. They aren't going to be held hostage by the guy. As long as they make a market value extension offer before the opt out time period (which I'm sure they will do), if he goes then I can't be angry with what they do.

If he leaves though, it's bad. They'll need to find a big bat for the middle of the lineup, and Torii Hunter is not that guy. Teixeira would be perfect, but he's only got one more year on his deal and guess who his agent is.


whatever they do they have to get something for him, and if he's true to his word and wont talk til after the season then you gotta trade him

otherwise you traded away soriano for nothing

[babybagadonuts]

torre drives me nuts, he never has the whole starting lineup in, with the normal exceptions like posada having the day after a night game off or dh'ing, i think he's been over managing the last few years. too worried about matchups and stuff and leaving superstars on the bench

[Bulldogcakes]

Agents and GM's assess the A-Rod market (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2007/07/15/issue_has_plenty_of_juice/?page=4)

They have it Yanks, Red Sox, Giants. I understand the Red Sox angle about being the only other team that could afford it, but Theo has long said he doesn't believe in tying up too much money in one player. Thats (one of the reasons) why he's tried to deal Manny every off season. That deal was signed before he got there and he's stated he would never have signed that deal at that time. So I don't take the Sox seriously here, unless Theo has had some big change of heart. Also Boston is a big media market but not a big city. Boston has a tendency to eat their young when it comes to baseball. If A-Rod thought NY was tough, Boston writers and fans would be much worse when he's struggling. Its a very pretty town, but not glamorous like NY, LA or where A-Rod lives near South Beach. His off the field money making opportunities are greatest in NY, all he needs to do is win here.

As usual, I think this is Boras trying to get the Yankees to panic and they wont fall for it.

[Bulldogcakes]

Joel Sherman (http://www.nypost.com/seven/07152007/sports/boras_taking_a_rod_into_tratosphere_sports_joel_sh erman.htm)

If the Yankees make trades this month, they plan on using their veteran relievers and/or lesser prospects (think Matt DeSalvo) to try and make incremental upgrades at backup catcher, first base and their bench. They believe that free-agents-to-be such as Mike Myers and Luis Vizcaino could be replaced adequately by Triple-A options such as Sean Henn and Chris Britton, and that eventually Jeff Karstens and/or prospects Joba Chamberlain and Ross Ohlendorf could be moved from the rotation to the pen. A trade of Myers or Vizcaino to the pen-hungry Phillies for another free-agent-to-be, backup catcher Rod Barajas (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=4207), fits the current Yankees thinking.

Dont let the low BA throw you with Barajas, look at the OBP. Thats what counts, and its good.

I like the idea of letting some of the top prospects get their feet wet in the bigs out of the pen. The Twins have been doing it for years with good results.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Agents and GM's assess the A-Rod market (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2007/07/15/issue_has_plenty_of_juice/?page=4)

They have it Yanks, Red Sox, Giants. I understand the Red Sox angle about being the only other team that could afford it, but Theo has long said he doesn't believe in tying up too much money in one player. Thats (one of the reasons) why he's tried to deal Manny every off season. That deal was signed before he got there and he's stated he would never have signed that deal at that time. So I don't take the Sox seriously here, unless Theo has had some big change of heart. Also Boston is a big media market but not a big city. Boston has a tendency to eat their young when it comes to baseball. If A-Rod thought NY was tough, Boston writers and fans would be much worse when he's struggling. Its a very pretty town, but not glamorous like NY, LA or where A-Rod lives near South Beach. His off the field money making opportunities are greatest in NY, all he needs to do is win here.

As usual, I think this is Boras trying to get the Yankees to panic and they wont fall for it.

Four years ago I agree with you on this. But since the new owners have gotten here and especially since 04 no one has really gotten it that bad from the fans. Case in point: Julio Lugo. Guy batting below 200 and the fans were still behind him. Same with Coco. Now if the team was underperforming things would definatly be different. I agree with your statement on Theo not tying up 20% of the payroll on one player but for A-fraud you know they'll throw their hat in the ring if not just to raise the pricetag. I was watching the game on My9 the other night and holy f if you don't get arod back that leaves a MASSIVE hole in the lineup. (No crap right?) Enough of my "notebook" style posts.

[Bulldogcakes]

I agree with your statement on Theo not tying up 20% of the payroll on one player but for A-fraud you know they'll throw their hat in the ring if not just to raise the pricetag.

Even if the Yanks are no longer bidding on him once he's a free agent, as they say they won't be? Then all they are doing is raising the ceiling on salaries, which hurts everyone including themselves.

[Don Stugots]

Even if the Yanks are no longer bidding on him once he's a free agent, as they say they won't be? Then all they are doing is raising the ceiling on salaries, which hurts everyone including themselves.

true, but i can see teams doing to screw other teams over.

[cougarjake13]

true, but i can see teams doing to screw other teams over.

of couse b/c the more they spend on arod the less theyll have to shore up other spots and make them weaker

i like the strategy and theres no law against it, and if the owners of the team okay the deal then its on them

as great as arod is and obviously money isnt a problem for the yanks but think of what else you could get out there for 30 million.


i mean you got 2 guys combined who could be making 52 million ( arod and clemens) next year if they both come back, thats just fucking ridiculous

[Dan 'Hampton]

I don't buy the idea that the Yankees will say seeyuh as soon as he opts out. It makes no sense for them to tell their competitors what their gameplan is. They'll be in it to win it.

[cougarjake13]

I don't buy the idea that the Yankees will say seeyuh as soon as he opts out. It makes no sense for them to tell their competitors what their gameplan is. They'll be in it to win it.

they're saying it now maybe to make him say he wont opt out and sign a longer deal

and if that doesnt work maybe they'll change their mind in the offseason, even if it means alienating arod and making him not want to be here, but he will if they pony up the most cash

[Dan 'Hampton]

You think it'll fly with their fans that hey we had the best player in baseball, who we were getting at a discounted rate. And yes he could break the all time homerun record in the NEW (Ugh its just wrong that Yankee stadium is going to be a parking lot) Yankee stadium but he's just too much money for us, one of the two largest teams in baseball. It'd really look bad fro him to be starting a SS next year on the AL team in place of Jeter for the last All Star game at the Stadium.

[cougarjake13]

You think it'll fly with their fans that hey we had the best player in baseball, who we were getting at a discounted race. And yes he could break the all time homerun record in the NEW (Ugh its just wrong that Yankee stadium is going to be a parking lot) Yankee stadium but he's just too much money for us, one of the two largest teams in baseball. It'd really look bad fro him to be starting a SS next year on the AL team in place of Jeter for the last All Star game at the Stadium.

ha !!!!!

never looked at it that way

that'd be funny, i hope it happens

[Dan 'Hampton]

Listen we aren't small market clubs. We can and do have the best of both worlds. There is NO WAY the Yankees aren't in this bidding war at the end of the season. This has nothing to do with Phil Hughes or Shelley Duncan or whoever. This is all about making money for the team he signs with.

[Bulldogcakes]

Giants unlikely to sign A-Rod
July 15
San Francisco Chronicle (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/07/15/SPGCGR0PT91.DTL)

If Barry Bonds doesn't return -- seemingly a lock now that Peter Magowan admits he wants to rebuild rather than reload



The Giants? Again, Magowan's new philosophy probably wipes out any hope even though A-Rod, unlike Ichiro, actually praised the city. If the Giants' second half is as crummy as their first half -- and there's no reason to believe it won't be -- then filling the payroll with A-Rod dollars won't fix the problem. He'll simply be replacing Bonds on an otherwise flawed team.

Anyway, why would A-Rod join a rebuilding program when he already learned his lesson in Texas?


Woah! Thats a shocker! If they're for real then A-Rod's bargaining position gets weaker by the day. I still don't take the Red Sox seriously, both Chicago teams don't make sense and neither LA team has the money. Maybe he will come back after all.

Again, I think the Yanks are playing hardball with A-Rod because they think the market just isn't there for him, unless he wants to go to a bad team again. Most feel that he doesn't, he wants a big stage for his big skills and huge ego.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Saban plays his cards close to his chest. Why would ANY GM start the bidding war now? BIDDING WAR and Cashman will be right in the middle.

[Bulldogcakes]

Saban plays his cards close to his chest. Why would ANY GM start the bidding war now? BIDDING WAR and Cashman will be right in the middle.

Read the SF Chronicle article. The owner wants to "rebuild, not reload". Reloading would mean replace Bonds with another big name. Rebuilding means stick with the farmhands till you have a core to build around, which is a few years away.

Also, with them being in rebuilding mode its not an attractive situation for A-Rod anyway. Its Texas all over again.

[cougarjake13]

Read the SF Chronicle article. The owner wants to "rebuild, not reload". Reloading would mean replace Bonds with another big name. Rebuilding means stick with the farmhands till you have a core to build around, which is a few years away.

Also, with them being in rebuilding mode its not an attractive situation for A-Rod anyway. Its Texas all over again.

well what will likely happen is arod will opt out

not get the interest or money he wants and prob have to come back to the yanks at less money then he wanted

[Tenbatsuzen]

The game looks awfully dark on my tv.

[Bulldogcakes]

JETER!!!



BTW-That Upton play was hilarious.

[TheGameHHH]

i really hope Mo can close this out, that leadoff bloop single can really shake you

[TheGameHHH]

so big to win a series 3-1 rather then go home 2-2.

[Bulldogcakes]

Thats 8 of last 11, 6 of last 8.

Still 7 back of the WC, so they're not back in the race yet. When it gets to 5 I'll get back into it, assuming they're playing well.

[Bulldogcakes]

I might be wrong about the Red Sox (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/)

Red Sox Will Pursue A-Rod This Winter

According to Bill Madden and Mark Feinsand, the Red Sox will make a "huge push" for Alex Rodriguez this winter if he opts out of his contract. The New York Daily News writers heard this from multiple sources.

Madden and Feinsand's source seems to indicate the push for A-Rod would be driven by team president and CEO Larry Lucchino. In other words, this will go past Theo Epstein (Buster Olney indicated today that he'd be loathe to tie up 20% of the payroll in one player).

The Red Sox entered 2007 with a $143MM payroll, up $23MM from 2006. Here are the major changes we can expect for 2008:

Additions:
$2MM more for Manny Ramirez
$1MM more for Julio Lugo
$2MM more for Daisuke Matsuzaka
$3.5MM more for Josh Beckett
$1.25MM more for Coco Crisp

An additional $9.75MM in escalating salaries

Subtractions:
$13MM for Curt Schilling
9.5MM for Matt Clement
$9MM for Mike Lowell
$2.81MM for Eric Hinske
$4MM for Joel Pineiro
$2.8MM for Mike Timlin

$41.11MM off the books

The Red Sox are essentially gaining $31MM to play with for 2008, if they are to keep payroll around $143MM. That gels nicely with the expected salary of Rodriguez. And the team isn't overflowing with needs - they could conceivably just replace Schilling with Clay Buchholz and keep Julian Tavarez around as the fifth starter. And maybe they'll toss another $6MM or so toward crappy veteran relievers. The trio of Papelbon, Okajima, and Delcarmen could be cheap and effective.

Bottom line: the Red Sox could sign A-Rod this winter and enter 2008 with a reasonable $150MM payroll (less than a 5% increase and still far less than the Yankees).

But I still don't think so. I hope they do it, because its stupid. Tying up that much money in one player will kill their ability to fill ALL those other holes, making them overall a weaker team. Replacing Curt Schilling with Clay Buchholz? Are you serious? I also don't think A-Rod would be happy there. Not glamorous enough for him and his wife. And if he thinks the NY media is tough, wait till he gets a load of Boston.

[7fttall500+]

Giants unlikely to sign A-Rod
July 15
San Francisco Chronicle (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/07/15/SPGCGR0PT91.DTL)




Woah! Thats a shocker! If they're for real then A-Rod's bargaining position gets weaker by the day. I still don't take the Red Sox seriously, both Chicago teams don't make sense and neither LA team has the money. Maybe he will come back after all.

Again, I think the Yanks are playing hardball with A-Rod because they think the market just isn't there for him, unless he wants to go to a bad team again. Most feel that he doesn't, he wants a big stage for his big skills and huge ego.

A-rod has an ego!!! Shocker

[7fttall500+]

How long till these salaries get too high and fans reduce the amount of games they go to?

[cougarjake13]

How long till these salaries get too high and fans reduce the amount of games they go to?

i think its happening already

[BeltOfScotch]

i think its happening already

I don't think we're at the point when everyone stops and realizes how insane the deals are yet though. Maybe after Santana gets his new contract and people realize a pitcher shouldn't be making 22 million per year to pitch once every five days.

[Doctor Z]

It would be really funny to see all the Red Sox fans who have been screaming for the last 4 years about how much of a "pussy" and a "bitch" and a "faggot" A-Rod is, suddenly love the guy.

[Dan 'Hampton]

I might be wrong about the Red Sox (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/)



But I still don't think so. I hope they do it, because its stupid. Tying up that much money in one player will kill their ability to fill ALL those other holes, making them overall a weaker team. Replacing Curt Schilling with Clay Buchholz? Are you serious? I also don't think A-Rod would be happy there. Not glamorous enough for him and his wife. And if he thinks the NY media is tough, wait till he gets a load of Boston.

I don't think they'll try that hard for Arod. Texiera more likely. You don't know much about Bucholz do you? Wife is from the area.

[A.J.]

It would be really funny to see all the Red Sox fans who have been screaming for the last 4 years about how much of a "pussy" and a "bitch" and a "faggot" A-Rod is, suddenly love the guy.

If you guys can accept Wade Boggs, Roger Clemens and Johnny Damon, I guess anything is possible.

[Bulldogcakes]

I don't think they'll try that hard for Arod. Texiera more likely. You don't know much about Bucholz do you? Wife is from the area.

What does that mean? They have an open marriage?

Just kidding. I know he's a highly touted prospect, and his minor league #'s are excellent. But its Curt Schilling you're talking about replacing, one of the top 10 (maybe even top 5) best pitchers in baseball before this year. Maybe he takes the league by storm, but usually these guys take a few years till they hit their stride, if ever.

[TheGameHHH]

im interested to see A-Rod's first at-bat tonight. its his first time against the Blue Jays since that little 'Ha!' incident.

[weekapaugjz]

im interested to see A-Rod's first at-bat tonight. its his first time against the Blue Jays since that little 'Ha!' incident.

hopefully, it looks something like this...

http://www.ryebrye.com/blog/wp-content/Baby%20Gay%20Rod.gif

[TheGameHHH]

Kei Igawa refuses to win games, he seriously pains me

[Bulldogcakes]

Kei Igawa refuses to win games, he seriously pains me

(Shmoozie voice)
"The Red Sox have Dice-K, the Yankees have ANDREW Dice-K"

[cougarjake13]

so anything happen to a rod ???

[TheGameHHH]

so anything happen to a rod ???

he jacked a two run home run, thats about it.....his first time up they weren't in a good situation to hit him

[BoondockSaint]

so anything happen to a rod ???


They fucked up his bat when he hit a 2 run homer.

[cougarjake13]

he jacked a two run home run, thats about it.....his first time up they weren't in a good situation to hit him

ahh

so maybe later in the game they'll do it

[Bulldogcakes]

Cubs Acquire Jason Kendall (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2007/07/cubs-acquire-ja.html)

Cubs acquire Kendall (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2938997)

[BeltOfScotch]

I want to see Scott Proctor night at the stadium sometime soon. Give all the kids under 10 tee ball sets so they can see what it feels like to bat against the great Scott Proctor.

[A.J.]

I want to see Scott Proctor night at the stadium sometime soon. Give all the kids under 10 tee ball sets so they can see what it feels like to bat against the great Scott Proctor.

You mean Torre wouldn't make Proctor actually pitch to the kids?

[Bulldogcakes]

Johnson for Proctor? (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/07/17/SPGFSR1N7M1.DTL)

A's general manager Billy Beane isn't quite ready to wave the white flag, but he admitted that Monday's trade of catcher Jason Kendall could signal the team's focus has shifted partially to next year.

"I think certainly, with the injuries we've had, this isn't the place we'd like to be sitting right now," Beane said before the A's fell 4-1 to Texas at the Coliseum, their eighth consecutive loss.


The most recent rumblings are coming from New York, where a possible trade of 1B Dan Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6096) to the Yankees for right-handed reliever Scott Proctor is all the buzz. An A's source said that the team hasn't communicated with the Yankees in more than a week.

Is it just me, or is "Dan Johnson" the gayest sounding name you've ever heard?
Sounds a little rich to me. I like Proctor and I still think he can be effective next year when he has a new manager.

[cougarjake13]

Johnson for Proctor? (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/07/17/SPGFSR1N7M1.DTL)



Is it just me, or is "Dan Johnson" the gayest sounding name you've ever heard?
Sounds a little rich to me. I like Proctor and I still think he can be effective next year when he has a new manager.

gayer then

RANDY JOHNSON ????

[cougarjake13]

and i still say that the gayest name ever is dick trickle

[Bulldogcakes]

gayer then

RANDY JOHNSON ????

Hmmmm, close call. I keep thinking Dan as in 'Steely Dan', meaning dildo. But 'Randy' can mean something that smells like bait, and that might be even more gross.

Yeah, I'll go with yours. Randy is worse.

[lleeder]

Fuck that the Yankees need Proctor. He's fucked up due to over use but he's come through a bunch and relievers aren't something this team has alot of.

[Bulldogcakes]

Andy looks much better tonight than he did his last start, and forget the two before that. Plus its against a much tougher lineup. Very good sign for the 2nd half.

[cougarjake13]

Hmmmm, close call. I keep thinking Dan as in 'Steely Dan', meaning dildo. But 'Randy' can mean something that smells like bait, and that might be even more gross.

Yeah, I'll go with yours. Randy is worse.

what about this guy


dick cox (http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/coxdi01.shtml)

[HBox]

You wonder if Torre has paid any attention when Farnsworth has pitched this year. Of all the guys in the bullpen he picks Farnsworth for this inning. Proctor, Vizcaino and Bruney I'd trust before Farnsworth. Hell, I'd give Edwar Ramirez a shot in this situation even if it is his third MLB appearance.

But Joe Torre has an "eighth inning guy" and he's going to use him no matter the situation of how the guy is pitching. It's a great way to get through a game without thinking.

[Bulldogcakes]

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2006/05/26/GvfATrQl.jpg
Raise your hand if you'd rather see Joba Chamberlain out there than Kyle Farnsworth.



http://www.nndb.com/people/844/000023775/chamberl.jpg
Raise you hand if you'd rather see Richard Chamberlain out there instead of Kyle Farnsworth

[HBox]

I'd much rather they left Chamberlain a starter.

[Bulldogcakes]

Edwar Ramirez's My Space page (http://www.myspace.com/edwarramirez)

Wait for it . . . . . .

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'd much rather they left Chamberlain a starter.

Yeah, but do you really want to hear all the Thorn Birds puns that Sterling could come up with?

[HBox]

Edwar Ramirez's My Space page (http://www.myspace.com/edwarramirez)

Wait for it . . . . . .

That's the best music ever. I want that as my personal theme, playing wherever I go.

[HBox]

Andy Phillips: Master of the bloop.

I still have that music playing in the background as I type.

[HBox]

Yeah, but do you really want to hear all the Thorn Birds puns that Sterling could come up with?

I don't listen on the radio anymore unless XM has road feeds.

Music still going......

[Tenbatsuzen]

I don't listen on the radio anymore unless XM has road feeds.

Music still going......

Sterling is still better than those GOD-AWFUL Tampa guys.

[Tenbatsuzen]

That's the best music ever. I want that as my personal theme, playing wherever I go.

Do you host Sabado Gigante?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Hbox:

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/08/21/images/xlarge/FLO_1_td21don1_219171_0821.jpg

[cougarjake13]

Hbox:

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/08/21/images/xlarge/FLO_1_td21don1_219171_0821.jpg

she's not bad but there was a hot blonde that used to do a show with that guy i dont know which one but she was hot

[Kevin]

Abreu is fucking useless.

[cougarjake13]

Abreu is fucking useless.

and the phillies knew it

[Bulldogcakes]

That's the best music ever. I want that as my personal theme, playing wherever I go.

Isn't it? At first I had my speakers way too loud, and it scared the crap out of me.
Next thing you know I'm bouncing in my chair posting away. Great, fun summer music.

[Bulldogcakes]

Uuuuuugggghhhhhh!!!!

Just missed

[Tenbatsuzen]

Farnsworth may live for another day.

[Tenbatsuzen]

That was kind of awkward watching Matsui trying to hi-five A-Rod.

And Melky soaks Cano!

[HBox]

That was a great game.

Time for CELEBRATION MUSIC! Bring out the chicas!!!!!!

[Bulldogcakes]

Joel Sherman
(http://www.nypost.com/seven/07182007/sports/yankees/every_reason_to_be_down_on_the_farn_yankees_joel_s herman.htm)
Cashman wants to upgrade at backup catcher, first base, utilityman and a righty bat off the bench. He hopes to use the veterans in his pen to do that, then fill in by summoning such Triple-A arms as Chris Britton and Sean Henn. But he probably needs to upgrade in set-up men, too, because the baseball world does not find what he is offering overly appealing. The Dodgers, looking for a bullpen arm, have so far, for example, rejected the Yanks' overtures for utilityman Wilson Betemit because they do not want Kyle Farnsworth or Scott Proctor or anybody from this group.

Wow, do they love this Betemit. Why I don't know. They tried to get him last year also. Once upon a time he was a very highly thought of prospect, but so were and Ruben Rivera and Luis Sojo.
The other stuff makes sense. Since the bullpen is shaky, you have a few guys on the farm who can do just as well/poorly as the guys you have here. You could upgrade in other areas by trading them, making the overall team better. The areas they listed have allbeen big needs all year.

[Doctor Z]

Correct me if I'm wrong, cuz I'm pretty sure I was just seeing things... But did I just see Damon & Jeter execute a perfect hit-and-run, have 1st & 3rd with no one out, and then... not score a run? Not score a single fucking run? For real? Really? Seriously? No, can't be.

[cougarjake13]

Joel Sherman
(http://www.nypost.com/seven/07182007/sports/yankees/every_reason_to_be_down_on_the_farn_yankees_joel_s herman.htm)


Wow, do they love this Betemit. Why I don't know. They tried to get him last year also. Once upon a time he was a very highly thought of prospect, but so were and Ruben Rivera and Luis Sojo.
The other stuff makes sense. Since the bullpen is shaky, you have a few guys on the farm who can do just as well/poorly as the guys you have here. You could upgrade in other areas by trading them, making the overall team better. The areas they listed have allbeen big needs all year.

betemit looked great as a braves prospect but hasnt done much since moving to the dahgers

[Doctor Z]

OH MY GOD, NO. You can't be serious... Torre's bringing in MYERS with the bases loaded?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!

[Bulldogcakes]

OH MY GOD, NO. You can't be serious... Torre's bringing in MYERS with the bases loaded?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Don't get me started.

http://blog.cyberworksmedia.com/White-Flag.jpg

[Doctor Z]

http://www.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/humor/lol-1129532227_i_3402.jpg

[cougarjake13]

http://www.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/humor/lol-1129532227_i_3402.jpg

that is easily the scariest thing i have ever seen

[Bulldogcakes]

A-ROD!!!!!

Fuck, I thought that was gone off the bat. A-Rod's been unbelievable.

[cougarjake13]

A-ROD!!!!!

Fuck, I thought that was gone off the bat. A-Rod's been unbelievable.

care to edit your white flag post ???

[Bulldogcakes]

care to edit your white flag post ???

That was for Myers. When I see Myers, I see a white flag go up.


And this bullpen is absolute shit. Its not just Farnsworth, none of these shmucks throw strikes. Trade them all, who cares.

[cougarjake13]

That was for Myers. When I see Myers, I see a white flag go up.


And this bullpen is absolute shit. Its not just Farnsworth, none of these shmucks throw strikes. Trade them all, who cares.

interesting

didnt know that myers was considered that way

why is he on the team then ??

[Bulldogcakes]

http://i17.tinypic.com/4zw4zma.gif

I just love this fucking thing. Nice find by Sailor.

[Kevin]

The division and wild card deficits are going down the drain.. CHOCOLATE RAIN..

[Doctor Z]

McNuggets McNuggets, WHAT?

McNuggets McNuggets, WHAT?

Ketchup and ma-yo.

Ketchup and ma-yo.

[TheGameHHH]

things are starting to change, you can feel it

[Kevin]

McNuggets McNuggets, WHAT?

McNuggets McNuggets, WHAT?

Ketchup and ma-yo.

Ketchup and ma-yo.

UMMMM Blue Jay McNuggets..http://www.justinbrothers.com/Images/drooling_homer.gif

[Bulldogcakes]

The division and wild card deficits are going down the drain.. CHOCOLATE RAIN..

6 in the loss Division, 5 in the loss Wild Card. 4 games over .500 (add the Baltimore game if you want). Thats now 11-3 in the last 14.

Wang goes tonight, then 4 against the D-Rays and 4 against KC. By the time this stretch is over Hughes should be back.

Something needs to be done about this bullpen, though. Maybe Cashman can do something by the trade deadline, but I'd rather see some of the options out of AA/AAA.

[Bulldogcakes]

Whelan, Tampa bullpen no-hits Jupiter (http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070718&content_id=276550&vkey=news_milb&fext=.jsp)

One of the other guys they got in the Sheff deal. I wouldn't make too much of it, but its worth mentioning.

[tupper65]

I think that it's pretty funny how a lot of fans (myself included) thought that the Yanks were retarded for carrying 3 first basemen at the beginning of the season, and now that the dust has settled, it looks like the third string guy is the one who should stay. I know it's only been 60+ at bats, but Andy Phillips looks to be a perfect fit at the bottom of the order, and he has shown some fielding skills comperable to Mientkiewitz. Giambi can't play first, Mientkiewitz can't hit and Cairo is best suited as a utility backup.

Maybe the Yankees shouldn't be looking for a big name first baseman just yet. Concentrate on the bullpen and let Phillips play out the season.

[Freitag]

I'm not getting my hopes up yet. Remember how the Yankees got really hot and then fell apart 6 weeks ago?

[Doctor Z]

With Moose pitching tomorrow, why is Nieves catching Wang today?

[HBox]

With Moose pitching tomorrow, why is Nieves catching Wang today?

Day game after a night game.

[Doctor Z]

Ah, good call.

...But I guess Moose doesn't get his personal catcher tomorrow?

http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/~fanf2/hermes/doc/talks/2004-02-ukuug/crybaby.png

[HBox]

Ah, good call.

...But I guess Moose doesn't get his personal catcher tomorrow?

http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/%7Efanf2/hermes/doc/talks/2004-02-ukuug/crybaby.png

Hopefully he doesn't but I'm guessing Posada will DH tomorrow.

[JPMNICK]

With Moose pitching tomorrow, why is Nieves catching Wang today?

posada has caught Moose the last 2 games, and it worked out well. i think he is ok with that now.

[Doctor Z]

Wow... that fell apart REAL quick.

[ralphbxny]

I keep jumpin on and off the band wagon. Who knows what will shake out, but this season has been streaky and not good for my heart.

[TheGameHHH]

im still keeping the faith, ive never lost it

[Bulldogcakes]

but Andy Phillips looks to be a perfect fit at the bottom of the order, and he has shown some fielding skills comperable to Mientkiewitz. Giambi can't play first, Mientkiewitz can't hit and Cairo is best suited as a utility backup.

Maybe the Yankees shouldn't be looking for a big name first baseman just yet. Concentrate on the bullpen and let Phillips play out the season.

Andy Phillips by his own admission, has zero range. He might make a nice stab or dive at a ball but those are balls that Mientky fields easily. The Yanks always felt he could hit, but he plays an adequate 1B and thats it. But I agree with everything else you said. He's kind of the opposite of Mientky, who's a great glove with an adequate lefty bat. A platoon sounds good to me, gives Torre lots of options depending on that night's match up.

[Bulldogcakes]

Wow... that fell apart REAL quick.

Oh, come on. Its just one game, and they took 3 of 4 which was what they needed to do.



Best suggestion I heard all day was from a caller on the FAN, who suggested the Yanks p/u Mike Piazza. The A's are selling, the Yanks need a backup catcher and a righty bat with some pop off the bench/DH. He's absolutely perfect. Plus you KNOW he can play in NY and has a flair for the dramatic, I could just see him getting hot and winning some big games for the Yanks. He liked playing here, I think he'd gladly approve a deal.
And if you want to bring up the Clemens nonsense I think Mets fans took that way more seriously than either of the two players, and they've already played together at the All Star Game.

[Doctor Z]

I meant the game.

I smelled a win. It was 2-0 and Wang was pitching an economical gem into the 7th... I figured he'd take us through 8, we'd find a way to close it without Mo, and take all 4 games. Then suddenly, we were down 3-2 before I could blink. That game sucked a fat fucking dick. We can't let wins get away. We HAVE to win games like this. Every loss from here on out takes us a step closer to elimination.

[Bulldogcakes]

I meant the game.

I smelled a win. It was 2-0 and Wang was pitching an economical gem into the 7th... I figured he'd take us through 8, we'd find a way to close it without Mo, and take all 4 games. Then suddenly, we were down 3-2 before I could blink. That game sucked a fat fucking dick. We can't let wins get away. We HAVE to win games like this. Every loss from here on out takes us a step closer to elimination.

Yeah I felt the same way. When they got the two runs in the first I thought "Thats enough for Wang" but it wasn't. Give the BJs credit, they're not a bad team at all. I'm glad we took 3 of 4, and now I'll look to take 3 of 4 from the D-Rays, even with Igawa and Desalvo pitching the double header.

The Yanks still have some gaping holes in the team. Middle relief, Damon, Nieves. I cant get too greedy with these issues. Damon has to either drop down to #9 or out of the lineup completely. You keep waiting for him to turn it around and he never does. Its enough already. He's the 4th OF as far as I'm concerned, not a DH.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Cashman is bringing in an option on a new reliever. Apparently he has a hell of an arm.

<img src="http://i3.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/99/aa/f673_1_b.JPG">

[cougarjake13]

Cashman is bringing in an option on a new reliever. Apparently he has a hell of an arm.

<img src="http://i3.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/99/aa/f673_1_b.JPG">

man i'd like to know how much that card is worth ????

[Tenbatsuzen]

man i'd like to know how much that card is worth ????

Probably as much as Jordan's card with the sox. Judging by the graphics, this was produced well into Elway's career as a Bronco.

[cougarjake13]

Probably as much as Jordan's card with the sox. Judging by the graphics, this was produced well into Elway's career as a Bronco.

ahh then not so much

i used to have the eric lindros toronto blue jays card

i wonder what i did with it

[Doctor Z]

I have a David Robinson rookie card stashed away... Probably not worth much right now, but hopefully a few bucks somewhere down the line.





I know nothing about cards.

[Doctor Z]

Okay, I just took a look at tomorrow's matchup, and here's what it looks like:

http://homepage.mac.com/seahorsecaptain/.Pictures/matchup.jpg

1-9... with an ERA over 7.

Seriously, if we don't win tomorrow's game... there's no such thing as prediction in baseball.

[cougarjake13]

Okay, I just took a look at tomorrow's matchup, and here's what it looks like:

http://homepage.mac.com/seahorsecaptain/.Pictures/matchup.jpg

1-9... with an ERA over 7.

Seriously, if we don't win tomorrow's game... there's no such thing as prediction in baseball.

jackson pitches good for a few innings and then it all falls apart, sometimes he just falls apart in the first inning, but he has great stuff as they say so he keeps getting opportunities

[Kevin]

Okay, I just took a look at tomorrow's matchup, and here's what it looks like:

http://homepage.mac.com/seahorsecaptain/.Pictures/matchup.jpg

1-9... with an ERA over 7.

Seriously, if we don't win tomorrow's game... there's no such thing as prediction in baseball.

When has baseball ever been predictable?? These are major leauge quality guys (no matter how bad their stats are) In any day a bad pitcher can pitch a gem, and a great pitcher can get bombed.. Anyone who bets on baseball is a moron.. You can never predict it.

[tupper65]

Okay, I just took a look at tomorrow's matchup, and here's what it looks like:

http://homepage.mac.com/seahorsecaptain/.Pictures/matchup.jpg

1-9... with an ERA over 7.

Seriously, if we don't win tomorrow's game... there's no such thing as prediction in baseball.

It seems like these are the types of pitchers that we have trouble with. With Boston not playing well and going up against the White Sox starting pitching, it would be nice if we can pick up a game or two

[TheGameHHH]

Okay, I just took a look at tomorrow's matchup, and here's what it looks like:

http://homepage.mac.com/seahorsecaptain/.Pictures/matchup.jpg

1-9... with an ERA over 7.

Seriously, if we don't win tomorrow's game... there's no such thing as prediction in baseball.

also check Moose's numbers at home vs. the Rays, hes something rediculous like 9-0 with a 1.00 ERA.

[HBox]

Yanks called up Shelley Duncan today and sent Kevin Thompson back down to AAA. Melky is out tonight with an ab strain so Duncan will DH and Damon is in center.

And Torre just said that barring any more setbacks Phil Hughes is one more rehab start away from returning.

[Bulldogcakes]

Yanks called up Shelley Duncan today and sent Kevin Thompson back down to AAA. Melky is out tonight with an ab strain so Duncan will DH and Damon is in center.

And Torre just said that barring any more setbacks Phil Hughes is one more rehab start away from returning.


Torre said on the FAN today that they might have to send down our favorite salsa music aficionado Edwar Ramirez. Not for any performance reason (he hasn't pitched) but its just a numbers game with DeSalvo being called up from AAA. He's going to try to use him a few times before then, to see if he looks rusty. If he does, down he goes.

The rumblings are also getting louder about putting Joba Chamberlain in the bullpen. Cashman was at his last start in AA, and every report about the guy is gushing with praise. He and Clay Bucholtz from the BoSox system are thought of as the two best pitching prospects in all of baseball. If he comes in and does well, that could be the 8th inning guy right there. Problem solved, no trade required. That would also free them up to deal Proctor and Farnsworth for other needs.

I think its pretty obvious what they're doing with the call up of Shelly Duncan and the Chamberlain stuff. They want to see if they have the answers to their needs already within the system. So they're doing it now, leaving a few weeks before the trading deadline. Also, with the Yanks in 2nd place the real deadline for them is actually next month. They wont have to worry about the Red Sox or Indians or Tigers blocking a move they make by claiming them off waivers, the Yanks are below them on the waiver wire.

[Doctor Z]

Since the 2nd inning of yesterday's game, the Yankees seem to be performing their classic....





DISAPPEARING OFFENSE TRICK!

http://www.maniatvblog.com/cjchristy/uploaded_images/david_copperfield-735558.jpg

**cue laser sounds and fog machine**

[Doctor Z]

LOL... SO MUCH FOR GOING BY THE NUMBERS!

Kiss that playoff pipedream goodnight. Yesterday's game kicked off another 8-game losing streak.

[Bulldogcakes]

Mussina is finished. Lets just face it.

[Doctor Z]

A guy who came in hitting .180 got a base hit in this inning.

And we can't score on a pitcher who is 1-9 with a 7+ ERA. This following a 5-game winning streak. Have we seen this before? Oh yes, in Colorado after winning 9 of 10. The 2007 Yankees are the most schizophrenic team in history.

[Kevin]

Mussina is finished. Lets just face it.

He was fucking finished last year.. I was always against re signing him.. And they fucking gave him 2 years.. Man Cashman has made some awful moves..

[cougarjake13]

Mussina is finished. Lets just face it.

i can accept that

[Doctor Z]

He was fucking finished last year.. I was always against re signing him.. And they fucking gave him 2 years.. Man Cashman has made some awful moves..

Once again, it comes down to the owner being literally braindead. The guy is probably having trouble remembering his phone number and his grandson's name. How's he gonna fire his GM and/or Manager in that state of mind?

[Bulldogcakes]

He was fucking finished last year.. I was always against re signing him.. And they fucking gave him 2 years.. Man Cashman has made some awful moves..

Problem was there weren't any other big pitchers available last year. Gil Meche? Ted Lilly? They've pitched well so far this year, but were nothing to brag about looking at them last year as free agents. Mussina was at least a known quantity.
Moose had good #s last year. It just hasn't worked out.

[cougarjake13]

Problem was there weren't any other big pitchers available last year. Gil Meche? Ted Lilly? They've pitched well so far this year, but were nothing to brag about looking at them last year as free agents. Mussina was at least a known quantity.
Moose had good #s last year. It just hasn't worked out.

agree

you knew what you were getting in moose and what you thought you could expect

meche pitched out of his ass last year and lilly didnt perform well in his 1st stint with the yanks

[Doctor Z]

A 4-pitch inning... That's fucking EMBARRASSING.

[cougarjake13]

A 4-pitch inning... That's fucking EMBARRASSING.

or great

depending on perception

[Kevin]

Problem was there weren't any other big pitchers available last year. Gil Meche? Ted Lilly? They've pitched well so far this year, but were nothing to brag about looking at them last year as free agents. Mussina was at least a known quantity.
Moose had good #s last year. It just hasn't worked out.

His 2nd half was awful.. And he came up small as usual in the playoffs.. He was done last year.. NEVER should have resignd him.

[weekapaugjz]

or great

depending on perception

mark me down for great.

[BoondockSaint]

Al Leiter still works for YES?

[Doctor Z]

7.14 ERA...
1-9...
Second worst record in the Majors...



Why?














































































...why?

[BeltOfScotch]

Problem was there weren't any other big pitchers available last year. Gil Meche? Ted Lilly? They've pitched well so far this year, but were nothing to brag about looking at them last year as free agents. Mussina was at least a known quantity.
Moose had good #s last year. It just hasn't worked out.

Yeah I can't go back and retroactively bash Cashman for the Mussina deal. It was give him 2 years $23 million, commit to Ted Lilly for $40 million or Gil Meche for $55.

[HBox]

The rumblings are also getting louder about putting Joba Chamberlain in the bullpen. Cashman was at his last start in AA, and every report about the guy is gushing with praise. He and Clay Bucholtz from the BoSox system are thought of as the two best pitching prospects in all of baseball. If he comes in and does well, that could be the 8th inning guy right there. Problem solved, no trade required. That would also free them up to deal Proctor and Farnsworth for other needs.

I think its pretty obvious what they're doing with the call up of Shelly Duncan and the Chamberlain stuff. They want to see if they have the answers to their needs already within the system. So they're doing it now, leaving a few weeks before the trading deadline. Also, with the Yanks in 2nd place the real deadline for them is actually next month. They wont have to worry about the Red Sox or Indians or Tigers blocking a move they make by claiming them off waivers, the Yanks are below them on the waiver wire.

No No No No No! Just leave Chamberlain in AA. Leave him a starter. Let him develop. You don't take a young arm you are developing in AA and all of a sudden throw him into the majors in a positions he's never been in. This is just asking for disaster in more ways than one. It doesn't make sense when you have Chris Britton and Edwar Ramirez. Give them a fucking chance before you go nuclear with Chamberlain. Of course the problem there is that we've seen how Torre has handled Ramirez. He'd rather stick with the awfulness he knows, no matter how fucking awful they are, then call for any sort of unknown. It's fucking pitiful.

I have no idea why they are talking about bringing Chamberlain into the bullpen. It's just fucking madness. Be fucking patient and LEAVE HIM AS A STARTER. Don't play with fire. If it came down to it I'd write off this season before gambling with Chamberlain's future. And like I said, it's not as if they don't have other options. Just fucking force Torre to give them a try.

[Doctor Z]

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THERE IS NO GOD.

[HBox]

No No No No No! Just leave Chamberlain in AA. Leave him a starter. Let him develop. You don't take a young arm you are developing in AA and all of a sudden throw him into the majors in a positions he's never been in. This is just asking for disaster in more ways than one. It doesn't make sense when you have Chris Britton and Edwar Ramirez. Give them a fucking chance before you go nuclear with Chamberlain. Of course the problem there is that we've seen how Torre has handled Ramirez. He'd rather stick with the awfulness he knows, no matter how fucking awful they are, then call for any sort of unknown. It's fucking pitiful.

I have no idea why they are talking about bringing Chamberlain into the bullpen. It's just fucking madness. Be fucking patient and LEAVE HIM AS A STARTER. Don't play with fire. If it came down to it I'd write off this season before gambling with Chamberlain's future. And like I said, it's not as if they don't have other options. Just fucking force Torre to give them a try.

never mind.

[Bulldogcakes]

No No No No No! Just leave Chamberlain in AA. Leave him a starter. Let him develop. You don't take a young arm you are developing in AA and all of a sudden throw him into the majors in a positions he's never been in. This is just asking for disaster in more ways than one. It doesn't make sense when you have Chris Britton and Edwar Ramirez. Give them a fucking chance before you go nuclear with Chamberlain. Of course the problem there is that we've seen how Torre has handled Ramirez. He'd rather stick with the awfulness he knows, no matter how fucking awful they are, then call for any sort of unknown. It's fucking pitiful.

I have no idea why they are talking about bringing Chamberlain into the bullpen. It's just fucking madness. Be fucking patient and LEAVE HIM AS A STARTER. Don't play with fire. If it came down to it I'd write off this season before gambling with Chamberlain's future. And like I said, it's not as if they don't have other options. Just fucking force Torre to give them a try.

I really think you're really, really over reacting. It gives a young pitcher a chance to limit his exposure, keep his innings down and learn slowly how to deal with situations on the major league level. Also you only need two pitches as a reliever, so you can just go with your best stuff and not risk getting beat with your lesser stuff as you would being a starter. Makes all the sense in the world. The only question is how his body handles it, and thats something you just have to monitor closely. Also, don't forget Papelbon came up as a starter and was converted to being a reliever, as was a fellow named Mariano Rivera in 1995.

Let me give you a list of pitchers.
Ron Guidry
Orel Hersheiser
Pedro Martinez
Johan Santana

Nice list, huh? You know what they all have in common? They all started as relievers. The Twins and Dodgers have been doing it for years. Bullpen work is easier than starting, its a way of bringing a guy along slowly. As long as he can bounce back well he'll be fine.

[Bulldogcakes]

I was just about to post this, but Kay beat me to it. Edwar hasn't pitched in two fucking weeks. Big surprise! He's rusty and cant throw strikes!!

Once again, Torre's mismanagement of the bullpen costs the Yanks a much needed game.

That, and Mussina sucks donkey dick.

[Kevin]

How long before Procter comes in? He does need the work..

[cougarjake13]

How long before Procter comes in? He does need the work..

7th inning

[HBox]

I really think you're really, really over reacting. It gives a young pitcher a chance to limit his exposure, keep his innings down and learn slowly how to deal with situations on the major league level. Also you only need two pitches as a reliever, so you can just go with your best stuff and not risk getting beat with your lesser stuff as you would being a starter. Makes all the sense in the world. The only question is how his body handles it, and thats something you just have to monitor closely. Also, don't forget Papelbon came up as a starter and was converted to being a reliever, as was a fellow named Mariano Rivera in 1995.

Let me give you a list of pitchers.
Ron Guidry
Orel Hersheiser
Pedro Martinez
Johan Santana

Nice list, huh? You know what they all have in common? They all started as relievers. The Twins and Dodgers have been doing it for years. As long as he can bounce back well he'll be fine.

But did any of them jump straight from AA while they were still learning how to pitch and developing their pitches? Yeah, he'd only need two pitches and he has them but he's currently developing two more. And remember, this is his first full season in the minors. He played a half season in Hawaii last year. He needs the seasoning. If this was one year from now and he was in AAA I'd be open to it. Not now though.

As for Mariano do you remember how bad he was as a starter? And as for Papelbon he had more experience. However he's a good example of the trap. It doesn't sound like he's ever going to leave that closer role. He'd be more valuable as a starter if he could live up to his potential. They should give him a try and if he doesn't develop fully as a starter move him back.

[HBox]

I was just about to post this, but Kay beat me to it. Edwar hasn't pitched in two fucking weeks. Big surprise! He's rusty and cant throw strikes!!

Once again, Torre's mismanagement of the bullpen costs the Yanks a much needed game.

That, and Mussina sucks donkey dick.

And we all know Torre. It takes forever to win his trust out of the pen normally. Edwar just set himself back two decades.

[cougarjake13]

And we all know Torre. It takes forever to win his trust out of the pen normally. Edwar just set himself back two decades.

or until torre is no longer the manager

[Bulldogcakes]

And we all know Torre. It takes forever to win his trust out of the pen normally. Edwar just set himself back two decades.

Kind of a self fulfilling prophesy, huh?

[BoondockSaint]

Maybe a piece of dental floss flew in front of Matsui's eyes.

[cougarjake13]

Maybe a piece of dental floss flew in front of Matsui's eyes.

id ani di franco you

but

whats the asian version of ani difranco ???

[Bulldogcakes]

But did any of them jump straight from AA while they were still learning how to pitch and developing their pitches? Yeah, he'd only need two pitches and he has them but he's currently developing two more. And remember, this is his first full season in the minors. He played a half season in Hawaii last year. He needs the seasoning. If this was one year from now and he was in AAA I'd be open to it. Not now though.

As for Mariano do you remember how bad he was as a starter? And as for Papelbon he had more experience. However he's a good example of the trap. It doesn't sound like he's ever going to leave that closer role. He'd be more valuable as a starter if he could live up to his potential. They should give him a try and if he doesn't develop fully as a starter move him back.

You're proving my point. Mo was getting beat with his crappy slider so they put him in the pen and told him just throw his 2 seamer and 4 seamer. Next thing you know he became maybe the best reliever of all time. By just going with your best stuff you have a much greater chance at success, plus you get away with it in the pen because you only go once thru the lineup, if that. Its a good way to bring along a youngster and get his feet wet in the bigs. If he gets in trouble, you pull him out before it gets too bad and he can go right back out there the next day and not dwell on it for 5 days like a starter would.

As far as Paps goes, he WANTS to stay in the pen. He likes closing, they just have to watch his shoulder because there's something wrong with it. He may yet become a starter next year(they tried to put him back in the rotation this year), but in the meantime he's helping them win the division.

As far as the AA stuff goes, its not like it used to be. There used to be A, AA and AAA. Now there's 3 levels of A ball, winter leagues, guys get signed out of college with a few years already under there belt (He's one of those, played at Nebraska (http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=104&SPID=33&DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=107702&Q_SEASON=2005)). It's not like it used to be. GM's are much more comfortable bringing guys straight out of AA nowadays than they used to be. Half the guys at AAA are major league failures, so there's really not much you'll learn there anyway.

Dont forget, Hughes doesn't have a full year in AAA either. He only spent about a month there this year.

[Tenbatsuzen]

And we all know Torre. It takes forever to win his trust out of the pen normally. Edwar just set himself back two decades.

Yet he trusts Farnsworth.

[RingWraith]

Once again, it comes down to the owner being literally braindead. The guy is probably having trouble remembering his phone number and his grandson's name. How's he gonna fire his GM and/or Manager in that state of mind?

Ha Ha!!! I can picture George getting excited for a prize in a CrackerJack Box now.

[7fttall500+]

The Yanks dont need to much more to add to the team...they just need to start playing to their potential!!!

[babybagadonuts]

ugh, they're killling me

[Bulldogcakes]

Here it is in print (http://www.nypost.com/seven/07212007/sports/yankees/source__drays_would_trade_ty_for_proctor_yankees_g eorge_king_and_joel_sherman.htm) from Joel Sherman

July 21, 2007 -- Earlier this week the Devil Rays believed it would take more than Scott Proctor for the Yankees to pry utility man Ty Wigginton away from them. Now, according to multiple sources, the Devil Rays would make the trade. And though it's not clear if the Yankees have made an offer, they have been talking to the Devil Rays and have discussed converting stud prospect Joba Chamberlain from Double-A starter to big-league reliever to take Proctor's place.

[Bulldogcakes]

Here it is in print (http://www.nypost.com/seven/07212007/sports/yankees/source__drays_would_trade_ty_for_proctor_yankees_g eorge_king_and_joel_sherman.htm) from Joel Sherman

July 21, 2007 -- Earlier this week the Devil Rays believed it would take more than Scott Proctor for the Yankees to pry utility man Ty Wigginton away from them. Now, according to multiple sources, the Devil Rays would make the trade. And though it's not clear if the Yankees have made an offer, they have been talking to the Devil Rays and have discussed converting stud prospect Joba Chamberlain from Double-A starter to big-league reliever to take Proctor's place.

Wouldn't surprise me if you see him here before the trading deadline, to test this out before they pull the trigger on a deal.

[Bulldogcakes]

But did any of them jump straight from AA while they were still learning how to pitch and developing their pitches?

No, actually Santana came straight out of A ball (http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/S/Johan-Santana.shtml).

[7fttall500+]

The Yanks have a tough job ahead if they want to win this series...they would have to sweep a double header. Thats not easy at the MLB level.

[BeltOfScotch]

No, actually Santana came straight out of A ball (http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/S/Johan-Santana.shtml).

PWND

I think there's something to the Santana comparison if Chamberlain is as good as we're all hearing, but it is a little different. Santana came up in the bullpen, but was mainly used in long relief (and got spot starts) because he struggled as a starter at first. Here the Yankees are thinking about bringing up this kid as a setup man. It changes the thought process a little bit. If the Yankees are 100% sold on the kid being a starter, then I understand the move but I'm not begging for it. If they think he has potential as a closer down the line, then I'm all for it.

[Tenbatsuzen]

PWND



Broken clock's still right twice a day.

[TheGameHHH]

im driving to the bronx right now to go punch Igawa in the face, who's coming with me?

[Tenbatsuzen]

im driving to the bronx right now to go punch Igawa in the face, who's coming with me?

he already looks like that's been done to him repeatedly.

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[TheGameHHH]

DeSalvo v. Howell tonight.......certainly no Pettite v. Halladay

[Doctor Z]

Is it just me, or does this team follow every good streak with a terrible slide? You know what that's called? Being a .500 team.

And why do these screeching halts always come against TERRIBLE fucking teams, aka the Rockies, Giants, D-Rays, etc. What the fuck?

[HBox]

This is awesome! Ryu is pitching! HADOUKEN! HADOUKEN! DRAGON PUNCH! DRAGON PUNCH!

[Tenbatsuzen]

This is awesome! Ryu is pitching! HADOUKEN! HADOUKEN! DRAGON PUNCH! DRAGON PUNCH!

You know, Torre does look a little like Bison.

[TheGameHHH]

This is awesome! Ryu is pitching! HADOUKEN! HADOUKEN! DRAGON PUNCH! DRAGON PUNCH!

Street Fighter was the first thing i thought of when i saw him pitch......i wonder how many people though the exact same thing. he just hadoukened a-rod right in the side, ouch

[weekapaugjz]

its pretty sweet seeing a guy hit his first mlb home run. he has got to be on top of the fucking world right now. and is his name SHELLY!?!

[TheGameHHH]

i was so happy for him, im happy for anyone who does something like that.......its my dream to have that opportunity, you could see the pure joy on his face.

"I believe Jae Kuk Ryu is Korean for “Kyle Farnsworth.” hilarious line by Peter Abraham

[TheGameHHH]

also, 5 bucks says Farnsworth lets up at least one run here in this inning

[Tenbatsuzen]

Did... Did Duncan slap Kim Jones' ass?

[lleeder]

Did... Did Duncan slap Kim Jones' ass?

Yeah with his cock

[Tenbatsuzen]

Apparently Shelley Duncan assaults people when he hi-fives them. Kim Jones, Andy Phillips...

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[Tenbatsuzen]

I move to nickname Shelley Duncan "Puddy". Anybody second?

[lleeder]

I move to nickname Shelley Duncan "Puddy". Anybody second?

I prefer "Old Tortise Eyes"
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[babybagadonuts]

The Yanks have a tough job ahead if they want to win this series...they would have to sweep a double header. Thats not easy at the MLB level.

one down

[TheGameHHH]

abreu and a-rod just crushed back to back doubles......

this is another thing from Abraham and i gotta say I agree with him: "Wigginton has 38 homers and 126 RBI over the last two seasons. He also has been a better second-half player and is a career .348 hitter in “late and close” situations. Having his bat as a bench player could be a valuable resource. He would certainly give them more than the alternatives on the bench at the moment.

Wigginton is at .281/.331/.464. I’ll take that over Miguel Cairo (.257/.315/.317).

Proctor has had his moments but is he going to give you that much more than a Chris Britton? Now that Vizcaino is pitching well, Proctor wouldn’t be a huge loss."

[Bulldogcakes]

Broken clock's still right twice a day.

When the biggest asshole and racist on the board says that, I must be doing something right.

[cougarjake13]

abreu and a-rod just crushed back to back doubles......

this is another thing from Abraham and i gotta say I agree with him: "Wigginton has 38 homers and 126 RBI over the last two seasons. He also has been a better second-half player and is a career .348 hitter in “late and close” situations. Having his bat as a bench player could be a valuable resource. He would certainly give them more than the alternatives on the bench at the moment.

Wigginton is at .281/.331/.464. I’ll take that over Miguel Cairo (.257/.315/.317).

Proctor has had his moments but is he going to give you that much more than a Chris Britton? Now that Vizcaino is pitching well, Proctor wouldn’t be a huge loss."

plus wiggy's already performed well in new york

i liked him as a met and would have been great to keep him as our 2nd baseman but wiggy got us benson which got us maine and julio who then got us el duque

so i cant complain

[Doctor Z]

With DeSalvo on the mound, it really would've been nice to get A-Rod in from 3rd right there.

[HBox]

The problem with trading Proctor is that he has shown good durability. He has handled Torre's ridiculous demands better than most could. And while Vizcaino has been good recently his problems started when Torre used him in a Proctor-like manner earlier in the season. If they trade Proctor Torre will lean hard on Vizcaino, use Farnsworth and Villone more and let Britton sit two weeks between appearances.

I'd love a better bench but we must consider the effect's of Torre's inept bullpen management.

[Doctor Z]

My God! What's gotten into Damon?!

LEAD SAVING CATCH right there. That was amazing, I thought there was no way he had that.

[Bulldogcakes]

If Duncan can gives us some righty pop off the bench or as a DH, maybe you dont need to trade anyone for bench help. Wiggington is better than Miggy, but if they weaken the bullpen to do it I don't know the difference in hitting production between the two player makes it worthwhile. I'm not sure that makes them a better overall team.

I still like Proctor wayyyy more than Farnsworth. If it was for Farnsworth then def do it.

[Doctor Z]

Damon's taste in music sucks.

[Bulldogcakes]

Damon's taste in music sucks.

Everything about Damon sucks this year.

[cougarjake13]

Everything about Damon sucks this year.

i'd say since he became a yank

[Tenbatsuzen]

It brings up an interesting question.

You're coming up to bat in Yankees Stadium.

Bob announces you.

What is your musical intro?

I know this sounds bad, but I've always enjoyed Drowning Pool's version of Triple H's theme.

[HBox]

i'd say since he became a yank

If you discount all of last year, yeah.

[Doctor Z]

This Is Why I'm Hot

[cougarjake13]

It brings up an interesting question.

You're coming up to bat in Yankees Stadium.

Bob announces you.

What is your musical intro?

I know this sounds bad, but I've always enjoyed Drowning Pool's version of Triple H's theme.

well it would definitely be something metal

prob metallica, pantera, lamb of god, etc

but they'd prob only let me play certain songs

[Doctor Z]

If you discount all of last year, yeah.

Yeah, seriously. Damon had arguably the best season of his career last year.

[HBox]

It brings up an interesting question.

You're coming up to bat in Yankees Stadium.

Bob announces you.

What is your musical intro?

I know this sounds bad, but I've always enjoyed Drowning Pool's version of Triple H's theme.

I'd pick something by ABBA. I'd just want everyone to become distracted, confused and uncomfortable. It'll also do a good job killing the crowd energy, which is always a plus.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Hbox would probably come in to Umaga's theme.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'd pick something by ABBA. I'd just want everyone to become distracted, confused and uncomfortable. It'll also do a good job killing the crowd energy, which is always a plus.

Hbox would probably come in to Umaga's theme.

Goddamn, I'm good.

[cougarjake13]

If you discount all of last year, yeah.

well i wasnt saying stats wise

just heard that he had a bit of an odiferous emination problem

insert charles barkley here

[Tenbatsuzen]

This is how I'd re-do the Yankees theme music:

Melky Cabrera: Show Me What You Got

Derek Jeter: Theme to "The Natural" (I know Ventura did it, but Jeter actually, you know, deserves it)

Matsui: Theme to "Yamato", aka Star Blazers

Rivera: I love "Sandman", but I'd also choose Bronx Johnny's Sextravaganza music.

[Tenbatsuzen]

well i wasnt saying stats wise

just heard that he had a bit of an odiferous emination problem

http://www.ciadvertising.org/sa/spring_04/adv382j/libbyg/mytheory/charles%20barkley.jpg



Fixed. Learn how to use GIS, you'll be funnier.

[Bulldogcakes]

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Ketchup and MAY-o
Ketchup and MAY-o
Ketchup and MAY-o
Ketchup and MAY-o

McNuggets McNuggets yo McNuggets McNuggets yo
McNuggets McNuggets yo McNuggets McNuggets yo

[cougarjake13]

Fixed. Learn how to use GIS, you'll be funnier.

yeh i was too lazy to look it up

[TheGameHHH]

This is how I'd re-do the Yankees theme music:

Melky Cabrera: Show Me What You Got

Derek Jeter: Theme to "The Natural" (I know Ventura did it, but Jeter actually, you know, deserves it)

Matsui: Theme to "Yamato", aka Star Blazers

Rivera: I love "Sandman", but I'd also choose Bronx Johnny's Sextravaganza music.

No chance, Matsui has to come up to "I think I'm Turning Japanese"

id come up to "I'm a Flirt" (Jeters second at bat music) or "We Takin Over" (Posadas current at bat music.

[Tenbatsuzen]

If you don't think Matsui would rock the fucking Stadium with this...

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Then you suck.

[Doctor Z]

Why is this game even fucking CLOSE? This should have been a blowout by now. Jesus.

[Doctor Z]

Okay, I'll shut up now.

[cougarjake13]

Okay, I'll shut up now.

yeh they're up a touchdown and they dont have the d rays bullpen

[Doctor Z]

Well shit, Jose Molina from the Angels as our backup catcher? I'll take it.

But still, the Number 1 priority has to be improving our bullpen.

[cougarjake13]

Well shit, Jose Molina from the Angels as our backup catcher? I'll take it.

But still, the Number 1 priority has to be improving our bullpen.

whered ya hear that ???

[cougarjake13]

im saying the yanks get 20 at least

[Doctor Z]

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[Doctor Z]

Michael Kay basically announced Jose Molina at the beginning of this inning. He said it was a "strong rumor"... But reported it as if it were just coming in over the wire. Usually garbage speculation isn't reported seriously on YES unless it's legit, so we'll see, but it sounds like it's for real.

[cougarjake13]

Michael Kay basically announced Jose Molina at the beginning of this inning. He said it was a "strong rumor"... But reported it as if it were just coming in over the wire. Usually garbage speculation isn't reported seriously on YES unless it's legit, so we'll see, but it sounds like it's for real.

ahh yes

i have the stupid jabronie d rays announcers so i didnt get that nugget of info