New York Yankee 2007 Post Season Thread

[Doctor Z]

LULZ--That sucked dirty cock!!1

[Doctor Z]

Since this game really doesn't matter all that much, it's probably a good night to rest Abreu, Matsui, and Posada, simultaneously.

[Bulldogcakes]

Hughes took a big step forward tonight. He pitched beautifully tonight. I don't care about the HR, even the best pitchers will make a mistake here and there. He stayed aggressive, hit his spots and controlled the strike zone. 6 IP 2 Runs, I'll take that every time.

[Doctor Z]

We deserve to lose this game. We get a lead-off double from Molina, bunt him over to 3rd, and with 1 out, we leave him standing there, 90 feet away from tying the game.

That's terrific baseball.

[TheGameHHH]

Hughes took a big step forward tonight. He pitched beautifully tonight. I don't care about the HR, even the best pitchers will make a mistake here and there. He stayed aggressive, hit his spots and controlled the strike zone. 6 IP 2 Runs, I'll take that every time.

100% agree, i couldnt say it much better then that.....he pitched well

[Doctor Z]

http://blog.b92.net/arhiva/files/images/mushroom_cloud.preview.jpg

[Doctor Z]

STERLING BLEW ANOTHER HOMERUN CALL!!! OH MY GOD, THIS FUCKING ASSHOLE!!!

Opie & Anthony need to get their hands on this one.

[Bulldogcakes]

Wow. This is amazing!!!!

[Tenbatsuzen]

Tell me, tell me, tell me that Joba Chamberlain was doing Ric Flair's "Whoooo!" in the dugout.

[TheGameHHH]

2 bombs in one inning........amazing

[Doctor Z]

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[Kevin]

Tell me, tell me, tell me that Joba Chamberlain was doing Ric Flair's "Whoooo!" in the dugout.

I thought the same thing.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I thought the same thing.

Low-income kid in the mid-west, and his teen years would have coincided with the boom years of 1998-2003? Wouldn't be shocking if he was a wrestling fan.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Joba better fucking stay in the dugout. He gets the win, and let Farnsworth pitch the 8th.

[Doctor Z]

A-Rod literally just started and ended an 8-run inning that began with the Yankees trailing 2-1. One HR to tie it, and one HR to blow it open.

Incredible.

[Tenbatsuzen]

One HR to tie it, and one HR to blow it open.



One home run to rule them all?

[TheGameHHH]

A-Rod literally just started and ended an 8-run inning that began with the Yankees trailing 2-1. One HR to tie it, and one HR to blow it open.

Incredible.

remember when people said a-rod can't hit in pressure situations? and then they boo'd him?

[Doctor Z]

remember when people said a-rod can't hit in pressure situations? and then they boo'd him?

YES. But that WAS true at one point. Not in 2007.

It really is an amazing turnaround though. He's gone from Petey Panic to Mr. Clutch in one season.

[BoondockSaint]

YES. But that WAS true at one point. Not in 2007.

It really is an amazing turnaround though. He's gone from Petey Panic to Mr. Clutch in one season.

And it takes one 1 for 12 in the first round for it to change right back.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Ian Kennedy as Arn Anderson
Phil Hughes as Ole Anderson
Shelley Duncan as Tully Blanchard

[JPMNICK]

YES. But that WAS true at one point. Not in 2007.

It really is an amazing turnaround though. He's gone from Petey Panic to Mr. Clutch in one season.

lets relax with the Mr. Clutch until Rd. 1 of the playoffs.

[Doctor Z]

Fuckin' Jenks, couldn't close the deal.

[TheGameHHH]

Fuckin' Jenks, couldn't close the deal.

and he fucked me in fantasy with that 27.00 ERA

[RogerDornShortHops]

and he fucked me in fantasy with that 27.00 ERA

Hahaha....I loved it. Brought me little closer to the top spot for ERA and WHIP in my league.

My getting screwed today was Buerle, who pitched great, but didn't get the W.
The guy has a 3.39 ERA in the AL and only has 9 wins. FU**IN CHISOX!!!!

[Bulldogcakes]

All anyone wanted to talk about on the radio today was A-Rod. He had a great night, but for the Yanks to have a shot of winning it all this year they're going to need a 3rd/4th starter in the playoffs. Who knows whats going on with Clemens, and at 45 I don't think you can count on him anyway. To me the big thing that happened last night was watching Hughes (hopefully) turn a corner and look like the pitcher we all kept hearing about. He hit 94 on the gun a few times, commanded his stuff and located beautifully. I'm still excited today about the way Hughes pitched last night and can't wait till his next start. Kennedy too, he's a possible backup plan if Clemens can't go. I don't want to see Mussina anymore, especially in a big game. I've seen enough of him.

[Doctor Z]

Does anyone else find it remarkable that Wang has 17 wins (tied with only Beckett for the most in the majors), and he started the first MONTH of the season on the DL? He has more wins than any other pitcher, and skipped a month of the season! Missed 20 wins by 1 last year. Probably do the same again this year. Dammit. It'll happen eventually.

[JPMNICK]

Does anyone else find it remarkable that Wang has 17 wins (tied with only Beckett for the most in the majors), and he started the first MONTH of the season on the DL? He has more wins than any other pitcher, and skipped a month of the season! Missed 20 wins by 1 last year. Probably do the same again this year. Dammit. It'll happen eventually.

he def had a great year, I hope he gets some mentions in the Cy Young voting, although i highly doubt he wins it

[Bulldogcakes]

Does anyone else find it remarkable that Wang has 17 wins (tied with only Beckett for the most in the majors), and he started the first MONTH of the season on the DL? He has more wins than any other pitcher, and skipped a month of the season! Missed 20 wins by 1 last year. Probably do the same again this year. Dammit. It'll happen eventually.

Wang is very good, he just doesn't get hyped for a lot of reasons. Pettite has pitched even better than Wang this year and has less to show for it. Wang gets a lot of decisions because he tends to go deep in games. There's no point for hitters to take pitches against him, he throws strikes and the ball is hittable, it just ends up getting beat into the ground all night long. Wang is the type of pitcher hitters think they can handle, he doesn't do anything eye popping. And then the next thing they know they went 0-4 and hit into two double plays that night. Very good and very underrated.

BTW-If you like Wang, you'll like Humberto Sanchez too (The guy they got in the Sheffield trade) Same type of pitcher, features a very hard and heavy 2-seamer and mixes in sliders and 4 seamers. He's out with Tommy John, should be pitching for them sometime next year if all goes well. Could see him in the bullpen late next year, starting afterwards.

[TheGameHHH]

Wang is very good, he just doesn't get hyped for a lot of reasons. Pettite has pitched even better than Wang this year and has less to show for it. Wang gets a lot of decisions because he tends to go deep in games. There's no point for hitters to take pitches against him, he throws strikes and the ball is hittable, it just ends up getting beat into the ground all night long. Wang is the type of pitcher hitters think they can handle, he doesn't do anything eye popping. And then the next thing they know they went 0-4 and hit into two double plays that night. Very good and very underrated.

BTW-If you like Wang, you'll like Humberto Sanchez too (The guy they got in the Sheffield trade) Same type of pitcher, features a very hard and heavy 2-seamer and mixes in sliders and 4 seamers. He's out with Tommy John, should be pitching for them sometime next year if all goes well. Could see him in the bullpen late next year, starting afterwards.

yea i def agree with that......another thing that i believe keeps Wang off the radar is he doesn't strike guys out. instead he just gets them to ground out. he just gets over looked because he doesn't have a 97 mph fastball that he blows by hitters. instead he has a nasty sinker that's probably harder to hit then most fastballs.

[JPMNICK]

yea i def agree with that......another thing that i believe keeps Wang off the radar is he doesn't strike guys out. instead he just gets them to ground out. he just gets over looked because he doesn't have a 97 mph fastball that he blows by hitters. instead he has a nasty sinker that's probably harder to hit then most fastballs.

exactly what i was saying above. which is why i do not think he will ever win a cy young. he does not have the stats to back up his wins. he is not a power pitcher. he gets so many ground balls and double plays.

[Doctor Z]

Boy, the Orioles SURE DO STINK! They just had the bases loaded with nobody out, in a tie game.... didn't score a run.

[Bulldogcakes]

Boy, the Orioles SURE DO STINK! They just had the bases loaded with nobody out, in a tie game.... didn't score a run.

Are you hoping they might still get the division? I dont think they will. The Bosox lead the league in ERA, I don't see them going into any prolonged slumps anytime soon.

Now that the Yanks have a 3 game lead in the WC, I'm pretty much rooting for Cleveland from here out. Bosox have the best record, so that means they would play the worst record outside of their own division. Right now thats Cleveland, but the Angels are only one ahead of them. I want the Yanks to play Cleveland in the ALDS, let Boston knock out the Angels and then we play Boston for the ALCS. I think thats the best case scenario for the Yanks right now.

Here's the league standings. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070906&type=reg&br=5&year=2007&order=false&st=2)

[reillyluck]

ThegameHHH is the funniest motha fucka in this thread. Just sayin'.

[TheGameHHH]

ThegameHHH is the funniest motha fucka in this thread. Just sayin'.

YES!!!!! thats what im talking about!

[JPMNICK]

Are you hoping they might still get the division? I dont think they will. The Bosox lead the league in ERA, I don't see them going into any prolonged slumps anytime soon.

Now that the Yanks have a 3 game lead in the WC, I'm pretty much rooting for Cleveland from here out. Bosox have the best record, so that means they would play the worst record outside of their own division. Right now thats Cleveland, but the Angels are only one ahead of them. I want the Yanks to play Cleveland in the ALDS, let Boston knock out the Angels and then we play Boston for the ALCS. I think thats the best case scenario for the Yanks right now.

Here's the league standings. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070906&type=reg&br=5&year=2007&order=false&st=2)

i agree with you 100%. I would hate to see the Yanks matched up against the Angels Rd. 1

[TheMojoPin]

Just to go back to the issue of Wang's wins...wins and losses are some of the worst stats to rate a pitcher by since they more often than not reflect on the team's performance during the start than the pitchers.

[JPMNICK]

Just to go back to the issue of Wang's wins...wins and losses are some of the worst stats to rate a pitcher by since they more often than not reflect on the team's performance during the start than the pitchers.

well only if you combine it with run support, ERA, and BAA

if someone has 6.5 run support per game, it is not crazy to think they should have 12+ wins. then you look at Randy Johnson Cy young years where he had a good record, but crazy strikeouts and ERA.

right now his era 3.68 vs Beckett who is 3.30 with almost double the strikeouts.

[TheMojoPin]

well only if you combine it with run support, ERA, and BAA

if someone has 6.5 run support per game, it is not crazy to think they should have 12+ wins. then you look at Randy Johnson Cy young years where he had a good record, but crazy strikeouts and ERA.

right now his era 3.68 vs Beckett who is 3.30 with almost double the strikeouts.

I'm not saying Wang is a bad pitcher...far from it...but it's just a pet peeve to see pitching wins tossed out their on their own as if they trump the other stats when really taken on their own they're probably the most inaccurate pitching stat available. It especially bugs me that unless a pitcher wins 15 games or so a year they're almost always ignored for Cy Young consideration.

[JPMNICK]

I'm not saying Wang is a bad pitcher...far from it...but it's just a pet peeve to see pitching wins tossed out their on their own as if they trump the other stats when really taken on their own they're probably the most inaccurate pitching stat available. It especially bugs me that unless a pitcher wins 15 games or so a year they're almost always ignored for Cy Young consideration.

I agree. my gripe with Wang never being considered is the same, they like to see the 20 game winner with strikeouts. i think stats like winning after 2-3 losses in a row, or how many wins came against division rivals or teams over .500

but why not give the cy young to the most wins and MVP to most homeruns, even if they are on last place teams

[Doctor Z]

49

[Doctor Z]

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AND JORGE JUICED ONE!

[TheGameHHH]

A-Rod is rediculous and Jorge is quietly having his best season ever.

[Doctor Z]

Isn't it amazing what players can do in their walk years?

[TheGameHHH]

Isn't it amazing what players can do in their walk years?

haha i know right, its unreal.....i'll never forgive Adrian Beltre for tricking me into drafting him the year he signed with Seattle.

[Doctor Z]

Well, that 2-0 lead was fun while it lasted.

[Bulldogcakes]

Kennedy is pitching scared tonight. His nibbling is driving me nuts. Either he just has nothing, or he and Posada just aren't a match.
I wonder about Posada with the kid pitchers. Posada's a very intense guy, and I could see him adding to their angst on the mound. Molina on the other hand, is a very calm, laid back presence. Know who caught Kennedy in his first outing? Thats right, Molina. Know who caught Hughes in that nice outing he had the other day, first good one in over a month? That would be Molina.

Of course now that I said that, Kennedy just had a 1,2,3.

[Bulldogcakes]

Damn, now he looks sharp. He did the same thing in his first outing, struggled early and then started mowing them down, and quickly. I remember thinking "there's NO WAY Kennedy makes it to the 5th" in his first game after he threw about 50 pitches in the first 2 innings. Next thing you know, he's in the 7th and pitching beautifully. Same thing tonight.

[Dudeman]

giambi needs to do something more than walk with a man on 3rd and the score tied.

[Kevin]

Nice work by our 1-2-3 table setters being 0-10 tonight.. 1-11 now..

[Bulldogcakes]

Yes!

EL COMO DULCE!!

[TheGameHHH]

they really need to produce a run when you have bases loaded in back to back innings, hopefully jorge comes through here

[Tenbatsuzen]

Kennedy is pitching scared tonight. His nibbling is driving me nuts. Either he just has nothing, or he and Posada just aren't a match.
I wonder about Posada with the kid pitchers. Posada's a very intense guy, and I could see him adding to their angst on the mound. Molina on the other hand, is a very calm, laid back presence. Know who caught Kennedy in his first outing? Thats right, Molina. Know who caught Hughes in that nice outing he had the other day, first good one in over a month? That would be Molina.

Of course now that I said that, Kennedy just had a 1,2,3.

Damn, now he looks sharp. He did the same thing in his first outing, struggled early and then started mowing them down, and quickly. I remember thinking "there's NO WAY Kennedy makes it to the 5th" in his first game after he threw about 50 pitches in the first 2 innings. Next thing you know, he's in the 7th and pitching beautifully. Same thing tonight.

Let this be a lesson for you not to talk like this until the game is, you know, over.

The kid is in his second MLB start. Wouldn't YOU be a little bit intimidated?

[Doctor Z]

That 3-2 pitch to Cano with the bases loaded was so clearly inside that the umpire should be fined. It honestly wasn't even questionable.

[Kevin]

I wonder if Arod would like to buy the Island that the Yankees are leaving on base tonight..

[Doctor Z]

I'd say we've left at least 2 or 3 runners on base today...

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'd say we've left at least 2 or 3 runners on base today...

Could be a bit more than that, gentlemen.

[Doctor Z]

Holy shit, I don't believe it... I'm listening to the post-game on the radio, and Sterling blew another homerun call...
How does this guy keep his job?

It seems like he literally does this every night. Typically, an announcer MAYBE blows a HR call once, perhaps twice a season, and it happens so seldom that when it does, it makes for funny sound clips on O&A. You'd think he'd see such a reoccurring problem, and maybe start waiting to MAKE SURE it's gone before making the call. But no. He shamelessly blows calls, night after night. It's honestly embarrassing. Embarrassing.

[JPMNICK]

Holy shit, I don't believe it... I'm listening to the post-game on the radio, and Sterling blew another homerun call...
How does this guy keep his job?

It seems like he literally does this every night. Typically, an announcer MAYBE blows a HR call once, perhaps twice a season, and it happens so seldom that when it does, it makes for funny sound clips on O&A. You'd think he'd see such a reoccurring problem, and maybe start waiting to MAKE SURE it's gone before making the call. But no. He shamelessly blows calls, night after night. It's honestly embarrassing. Embarrassing.

he talks just for the soundbytes now. his homerun call is all hes got

[TheGameHHH]

That 3-2 pitch to Cano with the bases loaded was so clearly inside that the umpire should be fined. It honestly wasn't even questionable.

i dont know, my philosophy with those types of pitches was always 'take the bat off your shoulder'. it was close enough, cano is a good hitter......at the very least he needs to foul that pitch off.

[Bulldogcakes]

Let this be a lesson for you not to talk like this until the game is, you know, over.

The kid is in his second MLB start. Wouldn't YOU be a little bit intimidated?

Well yeah sure, but I still wonder about Posada. He's always had a bad rap about his pitch selection and he doesn't have much patience in general. You could see the interaction between the him and Kennedy and I thought it wasn't good. Plus the announcers (in particular Flaherty) kept wondering why he kept calling for the curveball when anyone familiar with Kennedy knows its his least effective pitch.

About contradicting myself, I'm just commenting on the game as it happens. I don't think any of my posts or opinions are written in stone and shouldn't be taken as such.

[Doctor Z]

MCNUGGETS, MCNUGGETS-WHAT!
MCNUGGETS, MCNUGGETS-WHAT!

http://homepage.mac.com/whosechairisthat/.Pictures/iankennedy.jpg

KET-CHUP 'N MAY-O!
KET-CHUP 'N MAY-O!

http://www.beatricebaseball.com/Pages/Pictures_2005_files/Chamberlain_cropped.JPG

MCNUGGETS, MCNUGGETS-WHAT!
MCNUGGETS, MCNUGGETS-WHAT!

[TheGameHHH]

thats hilarious

[TheGameHHH]

50 HRs for A-rod........i wish i could quote my first post on the first page of this original thread

[sailor]

I'm saying it right now, so it's going to be on the first page all season.....

A-Rod is going to have a MONSTER year.

damn, i'm good.

[Kevin]

50 HRs for A-rod........i wish i could quote my first post on the first page of this original thread

damn, i'm good.

So are you gunna go out on another limb and say that Ronnie B is going to hysterical on the show monday??:dry:

[TheGameHHH]

So are you gunna go out on another limb and say that Ronnie B is going to hysterical on the show monday??:dry:

not only that, im telling you right now........sometime this month Fez will cry

[sailor]

let's not lose sight of my skills in quoting locked threads.

[Kevin]

not only that, im telling you right now........sometime this month Fez will cry

Boy, if that comes true, you may just get your own Psychic show.. The Future Game, with TheGameHHH

[Kevin]

let's not lose sight of my skills in quoting locked threads.

Who are you again??

[TheGameHHH]

Boy, if that comes true, you may just get your own Psychic show.. The Future Game, with TheGameHHH

I've contacted Ronnie and it looks like im going to be Unmasked sometime in the next few months for my future telling skills

[Bulldogcakes]

51 HR's 20-something games left. Is it too soon to start thinking about 61? I don't think so.

Maris had 56 on September 9th, and didn't hit 61 until the last day of the season.

Ruth on the other hand, hit 20 of his 60 in the last 32 games, 17 of them in September. Which would actually put A-Rod right around if not ahead of Ruth's pace.

EDIT-I cant find a time line, but Ruth had either 48 or 49 on September 9th. So A-Rod is ahead of his pace.

[Doctor Z]

A-Rod is fucking UNREAL.

I still don't think 61 is gonna happen, because he's bound to cool off... but it's certainly a lot more possible after the last week or so.

[Doctor Z]

It still amazes me that a team like the Yankees, with such a deep history of winning and legendary sluggers, hasn't had a 50-HR hitter since Maris in 1961. That's just strange to me.

[Galway]

these tabacco adds on YES are making me ill. I get it. Don't need to see it 10 times every game.

[Doctor Z]

Seattle's collapse is officially among the worst late-season collapses I've ever seen. They've now lost 13 of their last 14 games. Horrendous.

[sailor]

Who are you again??

one sad fella. :(

[Bulldogcakes]

A-Rod is fucking UNREAL.

I still don't think 61 is gonna happen, because he's bound to cool off... but it's certainly a lot more possible after the last week or so.


Yeah, he'd have to have another month like April where he hit 14. But he looks like he's in the middle of another April-like hot streak right now. September is always a good month to pad stats, half the teams you play are out of it and playing like they're double parked.

If he gets to 55 in the next week, then its on. That will mean two weeks to play and 6 to go.

[Bulldogcakes]

Seattle's collapse is officially among the worst late-season collapses I've ever seen. They've now lost 13 of their last 14 games. Horrendous.

Who?



I'm worried about Cleveland passing the Angels at this point.

[Kevin]

Who is this Bruney guy?? Is he new??

[Doctor Z]

Wow, an 11-3 game and Bruney just couldn't throw a strike for his life.

[Kevin]

Wow, an 11-3 game and Bruney just couldn't throw a strike for his life.

That tends to happen if you don't pitch for like 5 years..

[Doctor Z]

He was sent down a while ago, so he was assumably pitching in AAA.

[Bulldogcakes]

Nice to see Edwar moving up the food chain in the bullpen. He still needs some more experience, and maybe another pitch for the lefties but I think he's a real keeper. That change up is nasty.

[Bulldogcakes]

That shot of everyone checking their shoulder was fucking priceless.

Damon "I think A-Rod's trying to win an Oscar":laugh:

[Bulldogcakes]

You want to hear something depressing? Even if we sweep the Bosox next week, we would still end up playing the Angels. The Angels would move ahead of the Bosox for best record, and would play the wild card winner. The only sure way to avoid the Angels is to win the division. And even if the Yanks swept the Bosox (in Boston, not likely) you're still 2 behind.

Looks like were playing the Angels unless someone has a serious bad stretch.

[TheGameHHH]

You want to hear something depressing? Even if we sweep the Bosox next week, we would still end up playing the Angels. The Angels would move ahead of the Bosox for best record, and would play the wild card winner. The only sure way to avoid the Angels is to win the division. And even if the Yanks swept the Bosox (in Boston, not likely) you're still 2 behind.

Looks like were playing the Angels unless someone has a serious bad stretch.

yea, it kinda does seem like Anaheim is our fate but whatever. Once you hit the postseason everyone is 0-0. I don't wanna play the Angels either but if the Yanks are fortunate enough to make it into postseason play I say bring on whoever the fuck you want to cause shit is about to go down

[zildjian361]

ten division AL East ina row RELAX:wink:

[Bulldogcakes]

First impressions: Buchholz vs. Kennedy (http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/first-impressions-buchholz-vs-kennedy/)

Breakdown of Kennedy's and Bucholtz mechanics, good stuff.

Also, check out the breakdown of Edwar Ramirez' change up about halfway down the page.

[Doctor Z]

A) I'm wasted.
B) What was the whole shoulder thing about in the bullpen today when A-Rod hit his 2nd HR? Is it just cuz A-Rod tends to do that after he gets a hit?
C) What does Damon mean by "he's trying to win an Oscar"?
D) We're DUE to beat the Angels in the post-season eventually! And if you don't believe in DUE, then TOO BAD! Those fuckers are going down once and for all.
E) I'm pretty wasted.
F) Good night!

[sailor]

It still amazes me that a team like the Yankees, with such a deep history of winning and legendary sluggers, hasn't had a 50-HR hitter since Maris in 1961. That's just strange to me.

even more, it's crazy that this is the all-time record for homers by a yankee right-hander.

[ralphbxny]

even more, it's crazy that this is the all-time record for homers by a yankee right-hander.

agreed. This is a season people will talk about as long as their is baseball. For a Righty at Yankee stadium its the best season ever stats wise!

[Doctor Z]

This is getting retarded.

[ralphbxny]

I just saw A Rod got another. Redonkulous!!!

[cougarjake13]

I just saw A Rod got another. Redonkulous!!!

52

9 to go

[RogerDornShortHops]

Tigers lost today. Win and it's 4 up.

Big insurance RBI for Cano. Isn't it amazing that this guy is up to 80 RBI's w/ how fricken cold he was the first half of the season?

[Tenbatsuzen]

52

9 to go

You mean 10.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Did... Did Kyle Farnsworth just throw a 1-2-3 inning again?

If he keeps this shit up he might get a spot on the post season roster.

[cougarjake13]

You mean 10.

yeh 9 to tie

10 to break

[RogerDornShortHops]

Did... Did Kyle Farnsworth just throw a 1-2-3 inning again?

If he keeps this shit up he might get a spot on the post season roster.

Have to have Farnsworh on the postseason roster (saying the Yankees make it to the playoffs). Even though he'll implode in a big spot, have to have him on there for blowouts, early exits for starting pitching, etc. Who would you rather have on instead of him?

[RogerDornShortHops]

Yeah Mo!!!!!!

[TheGameHHH]

look at this stat: Of A-Rod’s 52 homers, 22 have either tied the game or given the Yankees the lead.

[lleeder]

look at this stat: Of A-Rod’s 52 homers, 22 have either tied the game or given the Yankees the lead.

So your saying 30 of them were tack on wastes?...:tongue:

[Doctor Z]

That stat isn't dirty. It's F-I-L-T-H-Y.

[Doctor Z]

I think A-Rod's gonna hit 60 HRs by this Wednesday, and spent the last 2 1/2 weeks of the season swinging for the fences. You remember how badly he clammed up on the verge of 500.

[Bulldogcakes]

No game on, nothing to talk about tonight.

. . . . . . . . . .


So what supermodel do you think Jeter is nailing tonight? He's got that cranky knee, I bet he skips doin it doggie style.

[Bulldogcakes]

OK, well that didn't work.



Back on track (http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMTMmZmdi ZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTcxOTMxOTUmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZU VFeXk2)

Make no mistake, another fast, first-round exit from the playoffs will almost guarantee the end of the Torre era. Joe Girardi would be next, and a decade of Torre's brilliance would be forever diminished by the final seven years of his tenure, during which the Yankees were shut out of a world championship.

I feel like I can't lose this year. Either the Yanks get to the WS or Torre's gone and Girardi's in according to Klap (who I trust).

[cougarjake13]

OK, well that didn't work.

well i was gonna go for the obvious jeter arod gay joke a few hours back but decided against it

[Doctor Z]

Make no mistake, another fast, first-round exit from the playoffs will almost guarantee the end of the Torre era.

If the playoffs started today, we get the Angels in the first round.

So long Joe Torre.

[Doctor Z]

Getting some help from Texas right now. Sweet.

[RogerDornShortHops]

Think he'll buck up and do it? He better for $1M a game.

[ralphbxny]

Rangers are not players they are crushing ALOT!!! GO TEXAS!!!

[Bulldogcakes]

About time Giambi did something. NICE!

Now I just want to see if Hughes can make it to the 6th.

[TheGameHHH]

Posada is my hero

[Doctor Z]

I'm hereby naming the foul pole squirrel "Scooter The Squirrel"... because I'm convinced he's possessed by the spirit of Phil Rizzuto.


Also, the Devil Rays fucking suck asshole. Way to blow a 7-run lead.

[RingWraith]

I'm hereby naming the foul pole squirrel "Scooter The Squirrel"... because I'm convinced he's possessed by the spirit of Phil Rizzuto.


Also, the Devil Rays fucking suck asshole. Way to blow a 7-run lead.


What are the chances the squirrel comes back in the next Yankee homestand?????

[Doctor Z]

This was his 3rd appearance, and the Yankees weren't even playing there tonight. He is there to stay.

The Yankees acquired him to defeat the rally monkey. Now that we have Scooter, we can finally surpass the Angels in the playoffs.

[TheGameHHH]

I was excited about the game tonight, scoring 2 runs in the top of the 1st and all..........until i realized Moose was pitching

[Bulldogcakes]

I was excited about the game tonight, scoring 2 runs in the top of the 1st and all..........until i realized Moose was pitching

I want one of the rookies to pitch in the post season, so let him suck. Just makes the decision easier.
Hughes has been getting better, but I still think Kennedy has an outside shot if he throws a few gems.

[TheGameHHH]

I want one of the rookies to pitch in the post season, so let him suck. Just makes the decision easier.
Hughes has been getting better, but I still think Kennedy has an outside shot if he throws a few gems.

yea i want a rookie too, but they're only 4 games up. i hate to throw away game with a pitcher that just doesn't consistantly have it anymore.

[Bulldogcakes]

Well, I guess me and HHH have a nice dish of crow to look forward to.

Nice work by Moose tonight.

[Bulldogcakes]

Wow did they blow that call.

I think the ump is the only person in the stadium who thinks he caught that cleanly.

[RogerDornShortHops]

Jesus........the ump was right there staring at it!!! He mind was at the strip club already. He wants a dance from ARod's girlfriend.

[Kevin]

Well, I guess me and HHH have a nice dish of crow to look forward to.

Nice work by Moose tonight.

Don't forget to pass some of that to me.. I expected nothing less than a 8-2 loss or at best like a 10-9 win..

[TheGameHHH]

Well, I guess me and HHH have a nice dish of crow to look forward to.

Nice work by Moose tonight.

yea we're idiots, but Moose still sucks

[RogerDornShortHops]

Mussina will be in the pen for the playoffs.

Remember Game 7 when Clemens shit the bed and Moose came in and threw 3 scoreless? And Rivera threw 3? Greatest game I've ever seen.

[Tenbatsuzen]

to that bespectacled faggot who runs the Tampa Bay Devil Rays:

fuck you.

Love, Matty

[TheGameHHH]

to that bespectacled faggot who runs the Tampa Bay Devil Rays:

fuck you.

Love, Matty

don't blame Joe Maddon, he's a good manager

[Doctor Z]

I'm so sick of David Ortiz.

If the Rays had held on to either a 9-2 lead or a 4-0 lead, we'd be at least 4.0 games out, possibly 3.0, heading into this weekend's series. Motherfucking shit. Fucks.

[A.J.]

I'm so sick of David Ortiz.

If the Rays had held on to either a 9-2 lead or a 4-0 lead, we'd be at least 4.0 games out, possibly 3.0, heading into this weekend's series. Motherfucking shit. Fucks.


I'm so sick of Alex Rodriguez.

If the Jays had stopped giving him easy pitches to hit out of the ballpark, we'd be at least 6.0 games up, possibly 7.0, heading into this weekend's series. Motherfucking shit. Fucks.

[JPMNICK]

I'm so sick of David Ortiz.

If the Rays had held on to either a 9-2 lead or a 4-0 lead, we'd be at least 4.0 games out, possibly 3.0, heading into this weekend's series. Motherfucking shit. Fucks.

I'm so sick of Alex Rodriguez.

If the Jays had stopped giving him easy pitches to hit out of the ballpark, we'd be at least 6.0 games up, possibly 7.0, heading into this weekend's series. Motherfucking shit. Fucks.

it's all a moot point, since both teams will make the playoffs. the only problem is the 1st round match up, but I think regardless of who each team gets, they will both advance to the 2nd round.

[Doctor Z]

I'm so sick of Alex Rodriguez.

If the Jays had stopped giving him easy pitches to hit out of the ballpark, we'd be at least 6.0 games up, possibly 7.0, heading into this weekend's series. Motherfucking shit. Fucks.
Actually, I don't think he's hit a HR in this series... YET.

it's all a moot point, since both teams will make the playoffs. the only problem is the 1st round match up, but I think regardless of who each team gets, they will both advance to the 2nd round.

And also, home-field in the ALCS.
The Yankees can beat the Indians in the ALDS, but if we don't win the division (which it's almost certain we won't), I don't have much faith against those damned Angels (ie: 2002, 2005).

[Dan 'Hampton]

Yeah don't be scared of playing the Angels. What have they ever done to you?

[TheGameHHH]

you know what i kinda dig about Kennedy? he's no-nonsense. He's kind of just like, 'here's my stuff, see if you can hit it'. you never really see him trying to be too cute with his pitches.

[Bulldogcakes]

The thing that blows me away about Kennedy is he gets BETTER 2nd and 3rd time through the lineup. Usually thats the case with veteran pitchers, they see whats working and make adjustments. He's doing that and he's only 22. Very impressive.

I'm also glad Joe noticed what I did and matched him up with Molina again. I really hope they bring back Molina next year, he's the best backup catcher they've had since Girardi, and he complements Posada well since his style is so different.

[Marc with a c]

kennedy is fucking good.

[JPMNICK]

kennedy is fucking good.

yea he is pitching great tonight. they will really have to consider not bring mussina and bringing him as the 4th starter, I think even over the other rookie whose name i am blanking on right now

[spoon]

Did I mention Fuck u guys yet?! Everyone except AJ of course. Fuck those pin-striped fags up in the playoffs sox!!

Loved the video game footage of arod getting hit on the jumbotron by the way. Another highlight so far, when Singleton stated John MacDonald doesn't deserve the GOLD GLOVE bc he doesn't have great offensive numbers despite his MLB best fielding percentage and highlight film plays!! Even Kay laughed at him as he let this out and said "Jeter is gonna have something to say about that." Now I'm not saying MacDonald is a lock by any means, but Singleton is an ASS for his reasoning. What a fucking homer!

[Bulldogcakes]

yea he is pitching great tonight. they will really have to consider not bring mussina and bringing him as the 4th starter, I think even over the other rookie whose name i am blanking on right now

He seems to be getting better with his early struggles as well. Much smoother this time out. When he's on, he's like Wang. Doesn't blow anyone away, but just gets lots of quick outs. His pitch count is 59 going into the 6th.

Now I just wonder if he has an innings limit like so many young pitchers do. He threw a full season in A-AA-AAA this year, compiling something like 140 innings. Add the 17ish he's had in the bigs and he could be approaching his ceiling soon. Or maybe not, he's not a hard thrower and the Yanks may not be as worried about him as they would be about Joba or Hughes. I don't know, but I'd love to find out what Cashman thinks about this.

[Marc with a c]

kennedy is fucking good.

aj burnett is better

[JPMNICK]

He seems to be getting better with his early struggles as well. Much smoother this time out. When he's on, he's like Wang. Doesn't blow anyone away, but just gets lots of quick outs. His pitch count is 59 going into the 6th.

Now I just wonder if he has an innings limit like so many young pitchers do. He threw a full season in A-AA-AAA this year, compiling something like 140 innings. Add the 17ish he's had in the bigs and he could be approaching his ceiling soon. Or maybe not, he's not a hard thrower and the Yanks may not be as worried about him as they would be about Joba or Hughes. I don't know, but I'd love to find out.

I think at this point, there is no hard limit on any of these guys. I think the entire organization knows they really have to win it this year. they are even pitching joba 2 innings at a clip now i guess to get him in post season form

[Bulldogcakes]

Man, Girardi LOVES Kennedy.

[Bulldogcakes]

aj burnett has a better tush


Ewww.

[JPMNICK]

Man, Girardi LOVES Kennedy.

i always listen when giradi likes a pitcher, as a former manager and catcher i really think he see's way more than anyone else in that booth

[Kevin]

aj burnett is better

Yea but he will sneeze while driving home and blow out his elbow..

[Bulldogcakes]

I hope Joe doesn't send Kennedy out for the 8th.

Fuck the win, he pitched a gem and leave it at that. Big step forward for Kennedy tonight, and I think he moves ahead of Hughes in the rotation.

EDIT-Oh well. Joe sends him out. Thats great, pull him after one baserunner and let Vizcaino blow it for him.

[Bulldogcakes]

From Rotoworld


Although the Yankees said his MRI came back negative, Roger Clemens said Tuesday that the test revealed ligament damage and internal bleeding in his forearm, adding that the muscle was "pretty nasty."


Clemens is an absolute crap shoot from this point forward.

[Marc with a c]

Clemens is an absolute crap shoot from this point forward.

at what point wasn't he this year?

[Kevin]

From Rotoworld



Clemens is an absolute crap shoot from this point forward.

at what point wasn't he this year?

Who??

[Tenbatsuzen]

I can't believe I'm going to fucking say this

but... why wasn't Farnsworth in there?

[Bulldogcakes]

I'm so sick of Alex Rodriguez.


Don't be too sick, he might be playing for you next year (http://www.nysun.com/article/62362)

Yankees fans aren't going to want to hear this, but the Boston Red Sox, the second-richest team in baseball, have an enormous amount of money to spend. Curt Schilling, Matt Clement, Mike Lowell, and Eric Hinske, among others, will all be free agents at the end of this year, leaving the Sox with few holes on their team and nearly $50 million to spend. After next year they'll be free of $28 million in obligations to Manny Ramirez and Jason Varitek. In 2004, they demonstrated their willingness to go to near-absurd lengths to lay hands on Rodriguez, and of course little could be a more worthy expenditure than grabbing their top rival's best player to fill a position of need. It sounds sensational, but there truly isn't a better fit for Rodriguez, and the smart money looks to be either on him making his way to Boston, or on the threat of his doing so forcing the Yankee chieftains to relent and make a liar out of their GM. This will cause great glee for Sox fans either way.

After the Red Sox, the next-most sensible destination for Rodriguez is with the Los Angeles Dodgers. They're as rich as any team outside the American League East, they have real money to throw around, and they have a productive farm system that will allow them to replace their free agents from within. Simply letting veterans Randy Wolf, Jeff Kent, and Luis Gonzalez go this fall would free up enough to pay Rodriguez, and after next year, Rafael Furcal, Nomar Garciaparra, and Derek Lowe will be off their books, freeing up another $30 million. Money, glamour, and freedom from the crushing pressure of the East Coast all make the Dodgers a favorite.

I agree totally. If they don't work out a contract extension, he's gone.
And its not the end of the world. The Yanks will be built around young pitching in the coming years. They can always find position players on the free agent market, for a lot less than A-Rod will cost.

[Doctor Z]

You know who I love in a big spot late in the season?
Chris Britton.



Ian Kennedy pitched brilliantly tonight. Couldn't have possibly asked for more out of him. What a fucking waste and a shame.

[Doctor Z]

Lots of awkward in's and out's to this game tonight... Like Melky's non-catch in center that turned out to be the only Toronto run (till the 9th), the 1-hitter from a rookie, then Melky redeeming himself by driving in the game-winning runs on a 2-out base hit to right, which never actually happened, on account of a diving stop. Then it's a 1-1 game in the bottom of the 9th, and Chris Britton (who I hope penciled himself out of the post-season roster tonight) did everything in his power to have the game end as quickly as possible.
Definitely a tough loss... I just hope the Yankees can shake this one off going into Boston tomorrow.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Lots of awkward in's and out's to this game tonight... Like Melky's non-catch in center that turned out to be the only Toronto run (till the 9th), the 1-hitter from a rookie, then Melky redeeming himself by driving in the game-winning runs on a 2-out base hit to right, which never actually happened, on account of a diving stop. Then it's a 1-1 game in the bottom of the 9th, and Chris Britton (who I hope penciled himself out of the post-season roster tonight) did everything in his power to have the game end as quickly as possible.
Definitely a tough loss... I just hope the Yankees can shake this one off going into Boston tomorrow.

You know, I just thought of something, and Torre might be smarter than we thought.

He knows the Yankees have to travel, and he knows they are playing tomorrow. He saw the chance of a protracted, long game when there's a much more important game happening tomorrow. So instead of burning his pen of his good arms, he sends Britton out there. He understands that the chances of winning the division are slim at best and no matter what, we're facing the Angels.

So he sends Britton out and hopes for the best, rather than wasting Mo's or Farnsworth's arms when they'll be more needed tomorrow.

[lleeder]

at what point wasn't he this year?
May 7th

[The Silencer]

Why on earth would the third base coach send him on a hit to Melky...Melky has a good arm and ortiz has no speed=convo...My prediction, yanks win 4-3 this game and they split the series!

P.S. it was great seeing Big Papi not know how to slide...plus i am cursing at the tv because of the fucking error giambi just made :furious::smoke:

[BoondockSaint]

I feel a merge coming.

[OGC]

How do you split a 3 game series ?

I guess you are hoping for a rain out tomorrow.

[The Silencer]

whoops haha i thought i looked on the website and saw 4 games...sorrrryyyyyyy...then yanks take 2-1

[BoondockSaint]

The title of this thread is very misleading.

[Bulldogcakes]

This game is unwatchable.

[The Silencer]

lol ummm...motherfucker!!! :smoke:

[Hottub]

Wow. I'm frazzled.

[Hottub]

lol ummm...motherfucker!!! :smoke:

Thank you for the insightful input. Contribute, or go to bed, Junior!

[sailor]

Thank you for the insightful input. Contribute, or go to bed, Junior!

lol

[RogerDornShortHops]

Matsui & Posada have missed homers by a combined 17 inches. Baseball is so fucking amazing.

[Kevin]

This fucking team kills me.. They all press and go cold in big spots.. Giambi stood at the batters box and saw Matsuzaka not being able to throw stikes, and swings at junk after junk.

[Bulldogcakes]

Matsui & Posada have missed homers by a combined 17 inches. Baseball is so fucking amazing.

True, but that stuff happens. The fact that they didn't score with the bases loaded in the first and Matsui didn't score in the 4th from 3rd base with no one out is what I'll blame if they go on to lose this game.

BTW-Jose Veras =

http://www.pizzainfinity.com/ele/2005/WhiteFlag.jpg

That was for my buddy HT.

[Kevin]

True, but that stuff happens. The fact that they didn't score with the bases loaded in the first and Matsui didn't score in the 4th from 3rd base with no one out is what I'll blame if they go on to lose this game.

BTW-Jose Veras =

http://www.pizzainfinity.com/ele/2005/WhiteFlag.jpg

That was for my buddy HT.

Are you calling Jose Veras a fag??

[Bulldogcakes]

BTW-Is everyone aware that Joba isn't available for tonights game?

I wasn't, until I heard Cashman say that on Kay's show this afternoon. Nice management of resources, Joe. Use him 2 innings in a 4-0 game. I actually heard Torre asked about the Joba rules on Mike and the MadDog (http://www.wfan.com/pages/744503.php)and he didn't even know whether they were changed, or if he could use Joba tonight.

[RogerDornShortHops]

GOD DAMNIT!!!!! Jeter's been having problems coming up with the big hit lately. I know he's playing hurt and the guy is an animal but isn't it crazy how he NEVER catches any shit from the NY media?

Don't get me wrong, he's one of the most clutch guys I've ever seen but he's hit into a ton of DP's this yr and I haven't heard anything about it.

[Bulldogcakes]

GOD DAMNIT!!!!! Jeter's been having problems coming up with the big hit lately. I know he's playing hurt and the guy is an animal but isn't it crazy how he NEVER catches any shit from the NY media?


They try to give him grief, but every time they do he goes
"Here, smell my fingers. That's Scarlett Johannson. Next question."

[RogerDornShortHops]

If A-Rod struck out with the bases jacked in Fenway in that situation, all of a sudden we're hearing that he's lost it and maybe can't handle the real pressure.

I fucking hate losing to the Sawx.

[Hottub]

Always good to leave the bases loaded when you are trying to come back.
WTF!!!

[RogerDornShortHops]

They try to give him grief, but every time they do he goes
"Here, smell my fingers. That's Scarlett Johannson. Next question."

Hahaha....that's totally how I'd be if I was a famous athlete and some beat writer was trying to throw shit at me. As Ronnie B would do....."Let's compare paychecks."

"Oh, that doesn't smell like Scarlett? I apologize, Scarlett's so tight she got my pinky. I gave you the index which belongs to Jessica Beil."

Mariah gets the fist.

[Hottub]

Funny stuff, sir.

[sailor]

let's keep it family friendly for hottub.

[Bulldogcakes]

let's keep it family friendly for hottub.

I was referring to her perfume, of course. :wink:

[Kevin]

Stellar d by Giambi tonight

[BoondockSaint]

BTW-Is everyone aware that Joba isn't available for tonights game?

I wasn't, until I heard Cashman say that on Kay's show this afternoon. Nice management of resources, Joe. Use him 2 innings in a 4-0 game. I actually heard Torre asked about the Joba rules on Mike and the MadDog (http://www.wfan.com/pages/744503.php)and he didn't even know whether they were changed, or if he could use Joba tonight.

They should have played him at 1b.

[RogerDornShortHops]

I was referring to her perfume, of course. :wink:

Oh really??? That's nuts because I was talking about the smell on the inside of the said women's vaginas.

[RogerDornShortHops]

Paps for 2.........LETS GO YANKS!!!!!!!

I got a hardon.

[RogerDornShortHops]

Whooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

[RogerDornShortHops]

aaaaaa---------------rodddddddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

[Hottub]

And just like that...
It's 7-7.

Ooops! now it's more!!!

BDC called it. Never say nevar at Fenway.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Wow, this is funny as hell.

You think Dr. Z is drunk in Bar 9 right now, probably totally unaware this is happening?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Mancaveitch better be in for the bottom of the 8th.

[Hottub]

DAMN! I love that Fenway scoreboard!!

[Kevin]

this is fucking ridiculous JOBA SHOULD BE FUCKING PITCHING!!

[RogerDornShortHops]

WOW.........what a game...love this team. Lets get them tomorrow!!!!

[KC2OSO]

Nice win. Giambi redeeems!

[The Silencer]

of course...fucking giambi...lol everyone contributed and it was a great fucking game!:smoke:

[lleeder]

this is fucking ridiculous JOBA SHOULD BE FUCKING PITCHING!!

Let the boy rest everyone else picked up the slack

[lleeder]

This fucking team kills me.. They all press and go cold in big spots.. Giambi stood at the batters box and saw Matsuzaka not being able to throw stikes, and swings at junk after junk.

Apology in order :nono:

[lleeder]

If A-Rod struck out with the bases jacked in Fenway in that situation, all of a sudden we're hearing that he's lost it and maybe can't handle the real pressure.

I fucking hate losing to the Sawx.

And then he had the game winning single and we didn't lose.

[Kevin]

Apology in order :nono:

I don't know what your talking about.. I was misrepresented..

[Doctor Z]

.RALLY SQUIRREL 4-LIFE!!!

[lleeder]

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee47/MasterPDog/YankeeRodent.jpg

[Doctor Z]

.
WHEN THE LEAVES ARE GREEN, THE SOX ARE MEAN!
WHEN THE LEAVES TURN BROWN, THE SOX GO DOWN!

TAKE YOUR 5 RUn LEAD AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR DUMPERS!!! SIMPLY DAMONICC!!!

IS GOOD!!!


KETCHUP & MAYOO! KETCHUP & MAY-O!

JobbBBBBAAAA!!!

[Kevin]

.
WHEN THE LEAVES ARE GREEN, THE SOX ARE MEAN!
WHEN THE LEAVES TURN BROWN, THE SOX GO DOWN!

TAKE YOUR 5 RUn LEAD AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR DUMPERS!!! SIMPLY DAMONICC!!!

IS GOOD!!!


KETCHUP & MAYOO! KETCHUP & MAY-O!

JobbBBBBAAAA!!!

Joba didnt pitch, but everything else was funny shit..

[Doctor Z]

OH i KNOW. I watched every last PITCH brotha... all 4:43 of IT!

and I aslso know...
YOU'VE GOTTA GO to MO!!!

[Kevin]

I was thinking.. This game is eerily similar to the game in April.. Matsuzaka and Andy went then too.. Andy left with a 6-2 lead.. And Bos came back in the 8th to win it.. And it was off Mariano.. Now Paps.. Very similar..

[TheGameHHH]

so, apparently i missed a good game........im jealous you guys got to see a thriller.

i've got to imagine theres gonna be panic on the streets of beantown tomorrow in the papers.

[Bulldogcakes]

so, apparently i missed a good game........im jealous you guys got to see a thriller.

i've got to imagine theres gonna be panic on the streets of beantown tomorrow in the papers.

Me too. I haven't had a day off in 2 weeks and I just passed out on my couch. Woke up and they were doing post game on the radio.

Cleveland won and LA Angels lost, so they're tied. Still a chance we miss LA, Cleveland's been playing well lately.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Dr. Z got everything except:

THE GUTTY GRITTY YANKEES HAVE COME ALL THE WAY BACK TO TIE THE GAME AT 7 and 7!

[Tenbatsuzen]

and:

SAFFRON RISOTTO

[lleeder]

I was thinking.. This game is eerily similar to the game in April.. Matsuzaka and Andy went then too.. Andy left with a 6-2 lead.. And Bos came back in the 8th to win it.. And it was off Mariano.. Now Paps.. Very similar..

That was a friday night. I think it was the night of Eastside Dave's bachelor party. Every friday that I go to bar 9 the Yankees have lost. Last night I stayed home.

[Doctor Z]

.I'LL HAVE THE '99 BORDEAUX!

[Tenbatsuzen]

.I'LL HAVE THE '99 BORDEAUX!

I WANT TO WATCH SOMETHING ELSE NOW. MAYBE A COMEDY?

[Doctor Z]

Wut tha F? He gets the first 2 outs with no one on, and then walks the bases loaded? That's very UN-WANG.


Whew, got outta that one!

[Doctor Z]

This is bogus, dude.

[lleeder]

I miss friday nights game. :down:

[lleeder]

I'm not pro-Villone

[Kevin]

I'm not pro-Villone

Awful..

[lleeder]

Awful..

Steve Somers always says it.

[lleeder]

Well I guess momentum doesn't mean shit anymore. :surrender:

[Kevin]

Steve Somers always says it.

I rest my case..

[Bulldogcakes]

Rodriguez Is Worth a Few More Wins, but Not $30 Million (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/16/sports/baseball/16score.html?ref=baseball)

The Blue Jays, for example, just signed a two-year extension with John McDonald, who compiled a putrid .267 on-base percentage and .321 slugging percentage through Friday, even though he benefits from playing in the hitter-friendly Rogers Center. McDonald is a far superior fielder to Rodriguez, but nonetheless, if Toronto had shelled out for Rodriguez instead, their 2008 record would probably be about nine games better.

Nine victories is thus about the maximum contribution Rodriguez could make to a new employer in 2008. But he is 32, and although he is likely to age well — he has retained his speed and is remarkably durable — a decline over time is inevitable.




But is Rodriguez worth $30 million a year? Not close. Silver wrote that teams on the playoff bubble — those expecting to win 83 to 94 games — collect an additional $2.6 million in revenue for every extra game they win, on average. If the industry continues to grow at a healthy rate, those figures should increase by 8 percent a year.

Thus, if he played for a team like the White Sox, Rodriguez could be expected to generate $25 million of revenue in 2008, $24 million in 2009, $17 million in 2010 and 2011, and $16 million in 2012, for a total of a little less than $100 million over five years. He is hoping to sign for about 50 percent more, and perhaps with another year or two tacked on once he is well into his twilight years.

Good article breaking down the economics and baseball impact. I still feel that NY makes the most sense for both parties. If he leaves for an extra few mil the Yanks will be fine, he probably won't. He'll be back 'in Texas', either literally or figuratively. I also still feel the Red Sox stuff is a bluff. Theo pinched pennies for years over Manny's deal, he won't want to sign up for another 8 years of that with A-Rod. As the article shows, no player is "worth" 30 mil either for the bottom line or on the field.

Also, I think that Cashman is serious when he says he'll walk away and not bid after the window closes. To give A-Rod 30+ per will cost the Yanks 42 mil per with the 40% luxury tax. Even they can't afford that for any one player. An extension which factors in the Texas money is the only sensible way I see for the Yanks to retain him. We'll know in early November whether A-Rod returns or not.

[A.J.]

But then you wouldn't get Mike Lowell back (http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/mlb?page=3):

While free agent-to-be Curt Schilling has expressed hesitancy playing for the Yankees next year, the same can't be said for Red Sox third baseman Mike Lowell. The 33-year-old, however, wants to make it clear that the idea of playing in New York has less to do with a potential opening or how much money might be offered and more to do with his history with the organization.

[Bulldogcakes]

But then you wouldn't get Mike Lowell back (http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/mlb?page=3):

They traded him away for nothing because they signed Drew Henson. They resigned Broscius for 2 years and figured Henson would take over after that. What a disaster. Until they got A-Rod, that trade always bugged the shit out of me.

[Doctor Z]

Minnesota fucking sucks.

Tonight's game is now officially a must-win.

[lleeder]

Minnesota fucking sucks.

Tonight's game is now officially a must-win.

I was hoping they would win just one. Now we have to sweat it out tonight. The next two weeks are gonna be tense.

[lleeder]

I feel sick already:down:

[Bulldogcakes]

Detroit never loses anymore. I think thats 9-2 in the last 11.

I still don't think they catch the Yanks. Yankee schedule gets easy from here on out, and even Baltimore lost Bedard AND Guthrie. So they should be fine.

Cleveland and LA Angels both lost, so they're both still tied for 2nd in the league.

[Bulldogcakes]

BTW- Anyone know where H-Box has been lately? Haven't seen him around.

[lleeder]

That was bullshit. Damon was safe.

[Tenbatsuzen]

BTW- Anyone know where H-Box has been lately? Haven't seen him around.

I got a few text messages from him. He kept telling me he loved me and then where is his physical location is.

[lleeder]

At least Clemens looks sharp since the 1st.

[underdog]

I got a few text messages from him. He kept telling me he loved me and then where is his physical location is.

Goddamn, that's funny. I just literally lol'ed.

[Bulldogcakes]

Don't Ya Know!!!

[Bulldogcakes]

Clemens answered the questions about his elbow tonight. Pitched beautifully.

[lleeder]

Joba scared me.

[Bulldogcakes]

FUCK! Missed a 2 run HR by a foot.

[Sarge]

The captain delivers. Nice!

[Bulldogcakes]

Hoooooaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!!

Yes!!!! Jeter!!!

Oh, that was sweet.

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/andrei_martin/blog3/deadpoets2.jpg

[lleeder]

FUCK! Missed a 2 run HR by a foot.

A three run is sweeter.


YES!!!!!!!!:clap:

[lleeder]

I cant watch this anymore

[lleeder]

YES, EAT OUR COCKS!!!!!!!!! :clap:

[Bulldogcakes]

Ooof. That got scary.

Mo gutted one out. He had nothing.

[drjoek]

Exhale

[lleeder]

I was so scared I can't believe that worked out. I thought for sure he was walking in the tying run.

[JPMNICK]

jeter showed a lot of emotion when he made that game ending catch

they really need to reconsider Mariano's role in the playoffs. he has been scaring me all season

[Kevin]

JETER= http://www.philprendergast.com/uploaded_images/jack%20bauer1-700367.jpg

ORTIZ=https://www.thankyounetwork.com/images/rewards/detail/Eddie%20Bauer%20high%20res%20logo%20to%20use.jpg

[JPMNICK]

jeter has the highest batting average with runners in scoring position in the AL. it is close to 500

[TheGameHHH]

Joba scared me.

why? He's Joba

[Doctor Z]

I just got home from watching the game at a friend's place, and WHAT a fucking INCREDIBLE game. Now I would just like to use this forum to make a few vital points:

1) Doug Mientkiewicz is a fucking golden god at 1st base.
2) Clemens pitched a fucking gem, 6 innings, 0 earned runs.
3) OH CAPTAIN, MY CAPTAIN!!!
4) JJOOOBBBBBAAAAAAA!!!
5) YOU'VE GOTTA GO TO MO!
and lastly
6) KETCHUP & MAY-O! KETCHUP & MAY-O!!!

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1511/pmlb24075680dt2cda921vh7.jpg

http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2866152&cp=2871378

[Tenbatsuzen]

I just got home from watching the game at a friend's place, and WHAT a fucking INCREDIBLE game. Now I would just like to use this forum to make a few vital points:

3) OH CAPTAIN, MY CAPTAIN!!!

Ahem...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/andrei_martin/blog3/deadpoets2.jpg

[underdog]

1) Doug Mientkiewicz is a fucking golden god at 1st base.

Just don't win the WS with him on 1st base.

[JPMNICK]

Just don't win the WS with him on 1st base.

why not?