NHL Stanley Cup Finals Discussion [Archive]

MHasegawa

09-26-2007, 04:40 AM

El Mudo

09-26-2007, 01:20 PM

My favorite story of the day

Luongo: "If they make the nets bigger, i'm retiring" (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3035979)

weekapaugjz

09-26-2007, 01:39 PM

My favorite story of the day

Luongo: "If they make the nets bigger, i'm retiring" (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3035979)

i agree with what he has to say. changing the size of the nets is bullshit. goalies have trained their entire lives using the same net size, changing it now with throw off a goalies game completely.

also, GO SABRES!!!

El Mudo

09-26-2007, 01:44 PM

http://www.sportslogos.net/images/Hockey/NHL/WSH_284.gif

Ready for another season of THE TRUTH

http://www.hokejavestnesis.com/ARTICLES2007/i/ovechkin3.jpg

weekapaugjz

09-26-2007, 01:47 PM

mudo, im going to the sabres/caps game on sat. the 13th. i cant fucking wait.

El Mudo

09-26-2007, 01:52 PM

mudo, im going to the sabres/caps game on sat. the 13th. i cant fucking wait.

Im fired up that the income from my new job will finally start giving me enough to attend some Caps games on a regular basis

I love our team this year, but we're not without some holes. We do need to shore up the D, but we can always add through trades, especially since we have so much young talent (Bouchard, Mike Green, etc etc), plus a wealth of goaltending talent (Neuvirth, Varlamov)

Speaking of goaltending, if Carey Price beats out Halak in Montreal and makes the team, he's gonna win ROY...i was blown away with what i saw him do in the World Juniors last year

Kevin

09-26-2007, 01:53 PM

i agree with what he has to say. changing the size of the nets is bullshit. goalies have trained their entire lives using the same net size, changing it now with throw off a goalies game completely.

also, GO RANGERS!!!

Glad to see you finally came to your senses!

weekapaugjz

09-26-2007, 01:57 PM

Glad to see you finally came to your senses!

i can't wait for jan. 16th so the sabres can kick the shit out of the rangers yet again.

Kevin

09-26-2007, 01:59 PM

i can't wait for jan. 16th so the rangers can kick the shit out of the sabers now that i jumped ship with the captain and my fav player of all time, Drury.

I am really really liking your new attitude.. WELCOME ABOARD!

:thumbup:

spoon

09-26-2007, 02:55 PM

This is gonna be a rough year for my Oilers, but it wont be as bad as the stretch of games we had after Ryan was traded. The PP will hopefully improve with Souray at command, and I have high hopes for Pitkanen as he's still very young (he just turned 24) and can gather a lot of points. Roli will have plenty of rest now with Garon as his backup who played the best out of the 684 goalies that LA used last season. Hemsky has to play less conservatively and start shooting the puck more often, with his good stickhandling skills I believe he really can rack up some goals on breakaways. Im crossing my fingers with Dustin Penner though he put up damn good numbers as a rookie last season along with his time in the American league, but after the bust that Lupul was I dont want to look like a fool twice.

What Im really looking foward to is our homegrown young guns, Robbie Schremp and Sam Ganger put monster offensive stats during their days in jr hockey and will be calling Rexall home when we're ready to contend for the Cup.

Outside of the Oil, this season really looks interesting:

-How far will the Rangers go after 2 huge FA signings
-How many points will come from Colorado's first line now that they have Ryan Smyth
-How good will Marty be now that he will be facing a lot more shots
-Can the Ducks repeat

Im not gonna make cup predictions at all, but I won't be shocked if the Ducks or Canucks are representing the West and Pittsburgh claims the East crown.

1) The Rangers will be tough this year as Lund has another year under his belt and he'll probably put together his first good full season. If he played better in the first half last year he would have won the Ven going away.

2) Not so sure Smyth will be on the top line. I wouldn't be surprised if they go with a solid one, two punch. Not sure which configuration they'll choose, but I like the Brunette/Sakic/Wolski and Smyth/Stastny/Hejduk combo. Oh and the third line looks like Svatos/Arnason/Hlinka and the fourth line of Parker/Richardson/Lappy. I'm sure nothing is in stone right now and TJ Hensik is really making a camp push to make the team as Stastny did last year.

3) Sure Marty will take on more shots at first, but give the Devs time to gel and their D style will kick in for the noobs. The big issue here is will Lou keep a coach (another dumb move last year) and actually give Marty a rest. If it goes the way of last year, I bet they don't make the playoffs.

4) It takes a ton to repeat in the NHL, let alone in the West with it's physical ugly style at times. I doubt it very much, even though they'd be one of the favorites if the two old farts return.

spoon

09-26-2007, 02:56 PM

My favorite story of the day

Luongo: "If they make the nets bigger, i'm retiring" (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3035979)

I agree with him on this. I'm getting tired of the changes with the NHL at this point. I don't mind adjustments that need to be done, but not the fucking nets.

spoon

09-26-2007, 02:59 PM

http://www.sportslogos.net/images/Hockey/NHL/WSH_284.gif

Ready for another season of THE TRUTH

http://www.hokejavestnesis.com/ARTICLES2007/i/ovechkin3.jpg

Watch Mudo, your approaching MDR standards with your O pics. And by truth do you mean another year missing the playoffs??? Your D makes the Avs look tough on the blueline!

spoon

09-26-2007, 03:01 PM

Im fired up that the income from my new job will finally start giving me enough to attend some Caps games on a regular basis

I love our team this year, but we're not without some holes. We do need to shore up the D, but we can always add through trades, especially since we have so much young talent (Bouchard, Mike Green, etc etc), plus a wealth of goaltending talent (Neuvirth, Varlamov)

Speaking of goaltending, if Carey Price beats out Halak in Montreal and makes the team, he's gonna win ROY...i was blown away with what i saw him do in the World Juniors last year

Price isn't bad for his level, but he isn't ready for the pros yet. It's a different pace, style and much longer season. They'd be smart to give him time and make him the backup. If he does start, I'll bet you whatever you want he isn't even top three of this years rookie class. Remember, he in Montreal.

spoon

09-26-2007, 03:03 PM

I am really really liking your new attitude.. WELCOME ABOARD!

:thumbup:

Gay. Twice.

Kevin

09-26-2007, 03:05 PM

I am Gay. Twice.

WOW!

weekapaugjz

09-26-2007, 03:05 PM

1) The Rangers will be tough this year as Lund has another year under his belt and he'll probably put together his first good full season. If he played better in the first half last year he would have won the Ven going away.

i agree the rangers should be tough this year but with the D the rangers have, lundqvist is going to have to stand on his head. this defense is weak:

46 Daniel Girardi
28 Andrew Hutchinson
8 Marek Malik
27 Paul Mara
22 Thomas Pock
3 Michal Rozsival
67 Marc Staal
34 Jason Strudwick
51 Fedor Tyutin

spoon

09-26-2007, 03:49 PM

WOW!

Strike three!

mdr55

09-26-2007, 04:04 PM

Let's Go Devils!!!!!:devil2:

TheGameHHH

09-26-2007, 09:02 PM

I can't remember the last time I was this "scared" about the Devils upcoming season. Honestly the Rangers look fucking amazing on paper and I think theyre gonna run away with the division, which makes me upset. I hated losing Gomez so much, its the most painful free agent loss since Scott Neidermeyer. Gomez and Drury were on the front page of ESPN.com today and it was like rubbing salt on the wound. I don't have high expectation for my Devils, but I know the way that team is run and they will at least try and stay competitive. Hopefully they can make it to the playoffs.

spoon

09-26-2007, 09:47 PM

You can always root for these guys!

http://www.spacepimp.net/NHL/avalanche.gif

spoon

09-26-2007, 09:55 PM

only a few days now

Fallon

09-26-2007, 11:46 PM

I got free tix to the B's pre-season game on Sunday. As much as I love the NHL I'd rather stay home and watch football over pre-season hockey.

Thrice

09-27-2007, 01:10 AM

So the Kings just won a 2-game Exhibition tourney in Austria and their offense(read: Anze Kopitar) looked in mid-season form. The defense looked shaky which, hopefully, can be attributed to playing on the Olympic size ice surface. The goaltending stepped up big in the 2nd game with 19 year old Jonathan Bernier and Jason LaBarbera splitting time between the pipes.

http://ecredbulls.seso.at/images/news/070926%20rbs%20vs%20kings%20HP.jpg

http://cdn.nhl.com/kings/images/upload/2007/09/kopitar_blake_092607_AP.jpg

I'm hoping for a split in the first two games of the season against the Ducks. I just really hope this trip to London doesn't fuck them over. They were already going to have to play above their heads to make noise in the West but with a trek across the globe combined with the most miles traveled during the regular season it could spell disaster for a team with some many question marks.

spoon

09-27-2007, 01:41 AM

Thrice

09-27-2007, 02:03 AM

yah, i'm not so big on only two teams going out there...especially west coast/conf teams that have the toughest schedules already. I'm not so sold on it having a huge effect with travel these days, but it can't help.

When the Ducks and Canucks traveled to Japan in '97 I remember reading that both teams had a very hard time adjusting once they got back to America. I know it's impossible to fully gauge what kind of effect it did have on the teams but for the record they both finished at the bottom of the West(Ducks 12th 65 points, Canucks 13th 64 points).

spoon

09-27-2007, 02:09 AM

But they should have watched this in Japan!

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Thrice

09-27-2007, 02:09 AM

NHL Center Ice is offering a free pre-season preview.

http://www.nhl.com/nhlhq/centerice_online.html

Input your info and when it asks for payment select the Free Preview.

Thrice

09-27-2007, 02:11 AM

spoon

09-27-2007, 02:16 AM

NHL Center Ice is offering a free pre-season preview.

http://www.nhl.com/nhlhq/centerice_online.html

Input your info and when it asks for payment select the Free Preview.

Yah, I already paid for the whole thing on DTV. Have since it's been available. And that's not just the movie, actual clips from the 80 and 60 Olympic games. Check it out.

Thrice

09-27-2007, 04:03 AM

Looks like the Flyers are getting hit with the injury bug early this year.

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=nhl/news/adn4104588.htm

Umberger, Lupul, Upshall and Jones are all hurt to varying degrees. Could it be karma for Downie's flying elbow smash on McAmmond?

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I certainly hope so...

spoon

09-27-2007, 04:11 AM

Thrice

09-27-2007, 04:22 AM

He definitely left his feet and shouldn't lay a hit like that in the preseason, but was it an elbow on purpose? I don't see it. It was just a kid trying to land his spot on the team as a 4th liner I bet (who hit him?), but I'm not too sure. Not sure y he needed to kill him on that play though. I don't hear too much anger in the Sen booth on that hit.

Steve Downie is the hitter and he's quite the Sybil type of player. One day he's the Captain of his Juniors team and making the Canadian National team; the next he's cross checking a teammate in the teeth and fighting in him practice. According to what I've read Downie was laughing as he was walking to the dressing room after being thrown out of the Sens/Flyers game.

Looked like a charge, elbow and interference(mcammond didn't have the puck when he was hit) with intent to injure. Make him sit the the first 5 games of the season to teach him to keep his skates on the ice and be done with it.

spoon

09-27-2007, 04:28 AM

Thanks for the info on Downie, but I disagree on the int call. He just dished the puck and it wasn't easy to see at all.

El Mudo

09-27-2007, 01:19 PM

Watch Mudo, your approaching MDR standards with your O pics. And by truth do you mean another year missing the playoffs??? Your D makes the Avs look tough on the blueline!

I'm gonna enjoy Alexander Mikhailovich as much as I can...and be on pins and needles cause he's an RFA after this year, and I will be cringing until he signs an extension

I dont think our D is really all that bad to be honest...we've got a nice mix of good young talent (Green, Eminger, Morrisonn), some guys who can move the puck (Poti, Pothier) and some maulers (Erskine, Jurcina, Schultz). Plus, we can always add at the deadline if we need to.

And the PP looks DAMN good from the few preseason clips ive seen

spoon

09-27-2007, 02:03 PM

You do have the East Conf thing going for you. When you really analyze it, there isn't too much D in the East right now. Take away NJ and you don't have much left to be honest. And how good will the Devs be this year is a big question.

mdr55

09-27-2007, 02:43 PM

NEWARK here I come!:devil2:

Bossanova

09-27-2007, 04:11 PM

I am honestly not excited for the Dev's season this season. I am still upset about Raflaski leaving. They didn't really address the D, and their offense is well, the Devil's style offense. Ecck

Kevin

09-27-2007, 04:16 PM

I am honestly not excited for the Dev's season this season. I am still upset about Raflaski leaving. They didn't really address the D, and their offense is well, the Devil's style offense. Ecck

And now that Token is hurt, you might just get murdered in Newark.. But like i have said before.. Devs are like the Yanks.. Until i see with my own eyes that they are dead, i will not believe it.. Not while Lou and Marty are there...

Que Spoony telling me i am crazy in 3..2...1

Bossanova

09-27-2007, 04:25 PM

And now that Token is hurt, you might just get murdered in Newark.. But like i have said before.. Devs are like the Yanks.. Until i see with my own eyes that they are dead, i will not believe it.. Not while Lou and Marty are there...

Que Spoony telling me i am crazy in 3..2...1

HAHA, no doubt. I know what you are saying, but Marty has always had some sort of D in front of him. You saw in last years playoffs what he did without a legit defense. Just don't have that feeling this year. But thanks for that little bit of confidence by a Ranger fan

spoon

09-28-2007, 02:27 PM

One more day!

cougarjake13

09-28-2007, 03:45 PM

One more day!

like the guy on PTI who sent in the email

tommorrow is opening night ??? who knew

spoon

09-28-2007, 03:47 PM

Didn't see it today but fuck that guy (even though he has a point about NHL getting the word out). I'm sure Met fans are looking to move on and the NY NFL teams don't look like great options.

cougarjake13

09-28-2007, 03:49 PM

Didn't see it today but fuck that guy (even though he has a point about NHL getting the word out). I'm sure Met fans are looking to move on and the NY NFL teams don't look like great options.

pretty much

mets might not make the playoffs and if they do they get bounced in the 1st round just like the yanks

g men and jets dont look good

so lets go islanders and rangers and i guess the knicks

spoon

09-29-2007, 02:51 PM

Well kind of. The first game was played earlier today in Europe and the Kings won behind a kid in net that continues to impress me. Bernier and Cammalleri looked awesome and the ducks looked really slow. With the addition of fuck heads May, Bertuzzi and Burke over the last few years, we might as well start calling them the Vanc Canucks of old. And we all know how much I hate those assholes, including May when he played for the Avs. Funny enough, it was Marc Crawford (their old Canuck coach) who took them out to start the season.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/7278648?var=one&rand=711

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::c lap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

spoon

09-29-2007, 02:55 PM

My question to the league is twofold:

1) Where the hell was the advertising for this game/Did anyone outside of the hardcores really even know?

2) Why would you have the OPENER in Europe, and not do it later to spark interest mid-season?

I guess that's a moot point when you don't even advertise/get the word out on the start of the season anyway. Seriously, you are floundering in the US market, how about spreading the game here, where the fucking majority of the teams play all year!!!

lleeder

09-29-2007, 02:56 PM

Why does every sport play in London now? Fuck Globalization.

spoon

09-29-2007, 02:59 PM

Now it high time they get dentist too!

http://dotnet.org.za/photos/robgoss/images/47564/425x353.aspx

spoon

09-29-2007, 03:20 PM

I know Leeds will get a kick out of this one. Check out the comments at the bottom of the articles as I'm a regular in the hockey section on foxsports and it pisses people off that all the writers always chat with me! Hilarious! I get shit started everywhere too. By the way, jaromir is a douche homer like you can't believe. Now I know we all know the most info on our favorite team, but he knows NOTHING else and he never sees a single weakness in the guins.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/7275968

lleeder

09-29-2007, 03:28 PM

That guy must be Moe under an assumed name. Too funny :clap:

spoon

09-30-2007, 12:44 PM

Ducks and Kings even the score.

And what the fuck happened to my ~~ ?

Come on, really? That needs to be censored? Get a fucking life whoever got rid of it.

ralphbxny

10-02-2007, 05:39 AM

I am counting down the days already!!

Bossanova

10-02-2007, 04:56 PM

Has the NHL always opened their season on the same night as the first day of the MLB playoffs? This is madness

Friday

10-02-2007, 04:59 PM

Here we are! Thank God for Hockey..... let the fun begin!! wheeeeeeeeeeeeee

ZigZagBigBag

10-02-2007, 06:35 PM

i still b'leaf. they may even have a real-honest-to-god goalie...unlike the rangers, or the kings...or the islanders. i just hope the maple-buds can steal a cup, before the ascension of the penguins.

MHasegawa

10-03-2007, 03:10 AM

you'll see christ before the maple leafs win the cup

spoon

10-03-2007, 01:06 PM

Ouch Manny, ouch!

http://www.pulledmygroin.com/images/256

http://cdn.nhl.com/wild/bc/images/assets/community/ministries.gif

http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/200074958493_1.jpg

MHasegawa

10-03-2007, 01:27 PM

Maple Leafs are the Cubs of hockey, with years of mediocrity added with snobby, upper crusty white fans.

spoon

10-03-2007, 01:29 PM

What's your prediction for the Oil Manny?

And the rest of the NW division / West?

MHasegawa

10-03-2007, 01:41 PM

it aint gonna be pretty, without Ryan the team has no leadership (though Im happy Moreau has the C) and no enforcer with Zach Stortini assigned to Springfield (question his role all you want, he's the heaviest tough guy). Matt Greene and JF Jacques arent big enough to dance with the divisions big guys such as Boogard, Pyatt, Hannan and Scott Parker. Roli will get his rest which can maybe result in even better number (I know, he's 38), especially with a solid backup like Garon.

Im thinking with the lack of offense and a slightly improved power play, we're not gonna put up enough crooked numbers in the box score--71pts, last place, out of playoffs.

I would expect the Western Conference Champions to come out of Northwest Division as both Vancouver and Calgary has improved drastically, Colorado can too if Budaj plays the whole season and is the real deal.

mdr55

10-03-2007, 01:44 PM

Maybe we can all get together and check out a DEVIL's game.

Go DEVILS!!!!!:devil2:

MHasegawa

10-03-2007, 01:46 PM

my friend ordered an extra seat in his season tickets so im gonna see a lot of this arena, lets hope its all they say it is.

spoon

10-03-2007, 03:46 PM

I'm game for a dev game. Let's make it against the guins, sens or caps so we could see some talent though! OHhhhhh!

spoon

10-03-2007, 03:47 PM

Huge hit by Pronger!

Zet has an A this year with a split (Pavel D.)

spoon

10-03-2007, 03:51 PM

This Sens/Leafs game is all O right now! It's like pond hockey.

Bossanova

10-03-2007, 03:58 PM

Directv has got to stop moving VS. without telling people.

spoon

10-03-2007, 04:11 PM

No shit 608-603 out of nowhere.

WTF?!

I even got a mention/notice when they moved playboy 595-591, but nothing for vs.

Bossanova

10-03-2007, 04:12 PM

Oh yeah, got that as well. I don't get it

spoon

10-03-2007, 04:19 PM

Do you get the NHL ceter ice package? Right now they fucked up and gave us the feed from the French-Canadian language version of the Habs game. Do they even check!?

Bossanova

10-03-2007, 04:22 PM

Yes, and yeah I noticed that. Fucking terrible start this year

TheGameHHH

10-03-2007, 04:34 PM

man, i do NOT like watching Rafalski play for the Red Wings.

Kevin

10-03-2007, 04:34 PM

Your Avatar on that site is hysterical.

spoon

10-03-2007, 04:37 PM

You mean Bender in a box?

Right on!

DolaMight

10-03-2007, 06:13 PM

Heatly just earned as much as 50 bucks towards his new 7.5mil contract with his game tying and game winning goals tonight.

spoon

10-04-2007, 02:27 AM

Hlinka, the unknown rookie (30) from the Czech Republic, just got off to a quick start. He was pretty much drafted by Milan Hejduk since they're buddies and he was playing over there still. Anyone know if he's eligible for rookie of the year as I'm not sure of the NHL rules.

MHasegawa

10-04-2007, 04:56 AM

I think the NHL rule is if you debut past the age of 25, youre not considered a rookie.

JesterOfSadness

10-04-2007, 03:48 PM

One thing I'm noticing while flipping through the Rangers/Panthers game is, the new Panther jerseys really look similar to the Flyers jerseys. Confused me quite a few times..

spoon

10-04-2007, 03:54 PM

I think the NHL rule is if you debut past the age of 25, youre not considered a rookie.

That's what I remember too adn I like it. No ichiro suzuki rookie of the year candidates!

Bossanova

10-04-2007, 03:55 PM

Gionta with a nice goal

El Mudo

10-04-2007, 04:43 PM

I think the NHL rule is if you debut past the age of 25, youre not considered a rookie.

I believe that is the Alexei Kasatonov Rule

Nice!!! ESPN.com is running a series of articles on my beloved Caps!! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=burnside_scott&id=3048502&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos1)

Bossanova

10-04-2007, 06:01 PM

I really hate Reebok's new style jersey

spoon

10-04-2007, 06:18 PM

Wow are the Avs looking tired and bad for this second of a back to back to start a season! And what is wrong with the NHL schedule that they need to go back to back to fucking start a season.

Kevin

10-04-2007, 06:48 PM

Nice win by The Rangers.. Looked a little sluggish to start.. But thats to be expected with the additions.. Drury proves to be clutch again.. Scoring the gw goal.. He is gunna become a favorite here really quick..

lleeder

10-04-2007, 07:00 PM

I'm happy the Islanders haven't lost yet.

weekapaugjz

10-05-2007, 03:13 PM

I'm happy the Islanders haven't lost yet.

wait for it......

LET'S GO BUFF-A-LO!!!

lleeder

10-05-2007, 03:21 PM

wait for it......

LET'S GO BUFF-A-LO!!!

Islanders have nothing to lose. Buffalo still has to prove they can win after the worst off season any team has had.

TheGameHHH

10-05-2007, 03:25 PM

Wow are the Avs looking tired and bad for this second of a back to back to start a season! And what is wrong with the NHL schedule that they need to go back to back to fucking start a season.

arent hockey players supposed to be tough? they cant go back to back to start a season when everybody is fresh?

weekapaugjz

10-05-2007, 03:31 PM

Islanders have nothing to lose. Buffalo still has to prove they can win after the worst off season any team has had.

if you think the only reason buffalo was good was drury and briere, you are sorely mistaken. yes, them leaving sucked, but they still have a lot of young talent and speed.

Kevin

10-05-2007, 06:15 PM

if you think the only reason buffalo was good was drury and briere, you are sorely mistaken. yes, them leaving sucked, but they still have a lot of young talent and speed.

I don't know what kinda leader Briere was.. He was a cap so obviously good.. But Drury gave more than just stats.. He was clutch.. always lit a fire.. And was a damn good leader.. Its tough to lose that.. But i agree.. Buff still has a ton of tallent... I am just not sure they can be at the level they were at the past few years.. At least for a few years..

lleeder

10-05-2007, 06:19 PM

if you think the only reason buffalo was good was drury and briere, you are sorely mistaken. yes, them leaving sucked, but they still have a lot of young talent and speed.

Their speed looked good but they still lost. :bye:

El Mudo

10-05-2007, 06:30 PM

I was VERY impressed with my boys tonight, with what I saw of the game

Controlled the pace of the game from the outset, Backstrom looked really great, i love the energy brought by Diamond Dave Steckel, and the PP looked phenomenal

Alex Semin's got a bad ankle so he didn't make the trip, but he's probably playing tomorrow. Theyve got Backstrom playing with Nylander, and Semin is going to go on that line at the other wing. The top line's going to be Alexander Mikhailovich Ovechkin, Kozlov and and I think Tomas Fleischmann

TheGameHHH

10-06-2007, 01:20 PM

spoon

10-06-2007, 02:46 PM

arent hockey players supposed to be tough? they cant go back to back to start a season when everybody is fresh?

For the avs the answer is obviously no. However, the point was about scheduling...it's idiotic.

spoon

10-06-2007, 02:57 PM

I'm off to the Devils/Panthers game down here in Sunrise. This is probably one of the only chances i'll get to see the Devils play live this year. Spoon, i know you have center ice.......is it available via Comcast as well or is it simply through Directv like Sunday ticket?

They open up the regional feeds if it is the prime channel. I'm never sure which team will get the coverage angle as it seems to be random, not based on home or away. Also, at times it even jumps to TSN even though it's not a game with a Canadian team. Funny I know, but it's always on. The only time I have missed an Avs game over the last almost decade was Chicago BHawks bc they have crazy blackout rules even with DTV! Fuck that team and it old/current management.

If it's on Vs. or any other national network, then that usually trumps all others unless it's your local team. Also, there are game simulcast on HD.net, usually Thursday nights. The NHL package channels are 763-776. Usually you can find it all there in simulcast version. For example, 634 is the Florida FSN channel broadcasting the game at 7pm. It's also on 767 airing the same content. Yet when on 603 Versus or NBC in the past, there is no listing in the 700's.

Hope that helps.

Kevin

10-06-2007, 03:04 PM

One thing I'm noticing while flipping through the Rangers/Panthers game is, the new Panther jerseys really look similar to the Flyers jerseys. Confused me quite a few times..

Thats exactly what i thought...

spoon

10-06-2007, 03:28 PM

Oh I meant CBC.

El Mudo

10-07-2007, 03:48 AM

I really like our new uniforms...

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/a5203931-42c0-406e-9e80-86b137f62024.jpg

And I like the fact we've looked DOMINANT in our first two games

MHasegawa

10-07-2007, 04:55 AM

Yay, we're undefeated too! Geoff "Im so old I was a Hartford Whaler" Sanderson scored 2 goals, Pitkanen scored too, nice way of sticking it to your old team, fellas.

El Mudo

10-07-2007, 04:59 AM

There's still a few Whalers left...I know Glen Wesley was one, and so was Michael Nylander

NickyL0885

10-07-2007, 06:25 AM

My Isles are 2-0, Mike Comrie has been like God, swept the home and home from Buffalo and we still get no respect. Oy.......

lleeder

10-07-2007, 07:37 AM

My Isles are 2-0, Mike Comrie has been like God, swept the home and home from Buffalo and we still get no respect. Oy.......

I was thinking of getting a new Islanders jersey. Should I get Comrie or is there a better option? With so little superstars its a hard choice.

sailor

10-07-2007, 07:54 AM

I was thinking of getting a new Islanders jersey. Should I get Comrie or is there a better option? With so little superstars its a hard choice.

4 goals/6 points in two games is a heck of a start.

Kevin

10-07-2007, 01:25 PM

There's still a few Whalers left...I know Glen Wesley was one, and so was Michael Nylander

I believe Shanny was one also.. If i am not mistaken...

El Mudo

10-07-2007, 02:25 PM

Yes he was

I believe that was the last place he played right before he went to Detroit

EDIT: I was right...Shanny was traded by the Blues to the Whalers for some guy named Chris Pronger

El Mudo

10-07-2007, 02:27 PM

Dug this up too, courtesy of wikipedia (although Sean Burke just retired)

Many ex-Whalers are still active in the NHL, including Pronger, Sanderson, Sami Kapanen, Burke, Shanahan, Jeff O'Neill and Cassels. Glen Wesley is the final Whaler still active with the Carolina/Hartford franchise, although his stint has not been continuous, playing seven games for the Toronto Maple Leafs in 2003 after a deadline deal before re-signing in Carolina in the 2003 offseason 1.

And for my money, Brass Bonanza is still the greatest theme used by any sports team in the history of sports. I have it on my Ipod and play it all the time

Bossanova

10-07-2007, 04:07 PM

I am a big fan of Paul Stastny

Snoogans

10-07-2007, 04:13 PM

I prefer Peter or Mats

spoon

10-07-2007, 10:54 PM

4g/4a in 3 games

soph slump my ass!

Nice rebound game for the whole Avs squad! But how is it they opened the season with back to back home and away games as a West Conf team (no travel is close), and now they don't play again until Friday!? Bettman and the NHL brass are fucking retarded.

Kevin

10-07-2007, 11:06 PM

Yes he was

I believe that was the last place he played right before he went to Detroit

EDIT: I was right...Shanny was traded by the Blues to the Whalers for some guy named Chris Pronger

Wow what a deal.. Both turned out to be Pretty decent players..
He was crushed about getting dealt there.. He had just gotten comfortable In St Louis.. I find it kinda Ironic that they held the draft the year he was drafted in Joe Louis.. Who knew that place would be a big part of his hockey life then.. He actually was involved in 2 Hall of Fame deals.. He got dealt to the Blues for Scotty Stevens.. Its rare that 2 HOF get dealt once for each other, let alone twice! It wasn't really a conventional trade.. But thats what it basically was in the end

El Mudo

10-08-2007, 05:23 AM

Wow what a deal.. Both turned out to be Pretty decent players..
He was crushed about getting dealt there.. He had just gotten comfortable In St Louis.. I find it kinda Ironic that they held the draft the year he was drafted in Joe Louis.. Who knew that place would be a big part of his hockey life then.. He actually was involved in 2 Hall of Fame deals.. He got dealt to the Blues for Scotty Stevens.. Its rare that 2 HOF get dealt once for each other, let alone twice! It wasn't really a conventional trade.. But thats what it basically was in the end

Yeah...that was that wacky deal where Stevens ended up being sent as "compensation" to New Jersey when STL signed Brendan Shanahan

On 16 July 1990, Scott Stevens was signed as a restricted free-agent by the St. Louis Blues. Because of Stevens' contract status, the Blues were required to compensate the Capitals with five first-round draft picks, two of whom (Sergei Gonchar and Brendan Witt) went on to have significant NHL careers.

Despite the high price that the Blues paid, Stevens' tenure with the team would be short. On 25 July 1991, former New Jersey Devil forward Brendan Shanahan was signed as a restricted free-agent by the Blues. Consequently, the Blues owed the Devils compensation for signing Shanahan. As Shanahan was a Type II free agent, the teams needed to agree on proper compensation the Devils should receive. The two teams could not come to an agreement and, as such, an arbiter was used to hear both sides and determine what the Devils would receive. The Blues made an offer of compensation [to the Devils] consisting of goaltender Curtis Joseph, forward Rod Brind'Amour and two future draft picks, but the Devils wanted Stevens. In a decision that would eventually be a catalyst for the first work stoppage involving NHL players by the owners in the 1994-1995 season, an arbitrator ruled in favor of the Devils, thereby sending Shanahan to the Blues in exchange for Stevens on 3 September 1991.

After initially refusing to report to the Devils, Stevens reported to the team on 25 September 1991. One year later, prior to the start of his second season with the team, Stevens was named the fifth captain of the Devils, a title that he would hold until his retirement from the NHL.

The Blues attempted to reclaim Stevens when he became a restricted free-agent in 1994, signing a $17,000,000 offer sheet with Stevens on 3 July 1994. The Devils accused the Blues of contract tampering, but eventually matched the offer, signing Stevens to what was then the most lucrative contract in team history. After a four-year investigation, the NHL ruled in favour of the Devils, finding that the Blues had actually extended the offer to Stevens prior to his contract expiring with the Devils. The Devils were awarded $1,425,000 and a first round draft pick in compensation for the incident.

El Mudo

10-08-2007, 12:32 PM

Thank you Mike Comrie for giving us that game!!!

3-0 :thumbup::clap:

lleeder

10-08-2007, 01:40 PM

Thank you Mike Comrie for giving us that game!!!

3-0 :thumbup::clap:

I guess I'll be delaying the purchase of my Mike Comrie jersey :annoyed:

spoon

10-08-2007, 09:35 PM

This is really good news! What channel on DTV? Anyone have more info here?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/7311840

TheGameHHH

10-08-2007, 09:41 PM

This is really good news! What channel on DTV? Anyone have more info here?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/7311840

thats fuckin awesome.......is it extra like the NFL network or will it come standard?

spoon

10-08-2007, 09:42 PM

not sure, just found this article today

spoon

10-09-2007, 02:36 PM

More NHL news I didn't know!? They seem to actually be pushing the product of late and if Reebok is on board, I can deal with some terrible new jerseys as they adjust.

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=339586

mdr55

10-09-2007, 03:05 PM

The NY NHL store opened already???

Got to check that out. Anyone been there yet?

spoon

10-09-2007, 03:44 PM

Nope, but it sounds cool.

El Mudo

10-09-2007, 05:02 PM

Man I am going to bankrupt myself buying all this new Caps stuff...ive been buying nothing but Nats and Terps stuff the last couple years, so I'm really behind on all my Caps wear

MHasegawa

10-10-2007, 12:21 PM

I know it's only October, but the Oiler have to win tonight in Minnesota. We just called up JF Jacques today so we can throw him at the Boogyman, and even though he's an underdog he can't do any worse than the Great Stortini did last season :thumbdown:

Bossanova

10-10-2007, 05:25 PM

Has anyone found out when and what channel the NHL channel will be airing on DTV

spoon

10-10-2007, 08:34 PM

Anyone watch the Montreal game!? That Price kid looked awesome. Perhpas the Habs will return to power behind him.

PITTSBURGH (AP) -Carey Price needed only one game to evoke memories of Patrick Roy.

Exactly 22 years after Roy made his much-hyped NHL debut for the Montreal Canadiens in Pittsburgh, Price did the same and came out with a win, too.

Matching the rest of Roy's Hall of Fame career will certainly be tougher.

"It hasn't really hit me yet," said the 20-year-old Price after Montreal beat Pittsburgh 3-2 on Wednesday night. "It's pretty exciting."

Mark Recchi had two assists and Ryan Whitney and Maxime Talbot scored for Pittsburgh.

"The kid played pretty well, obviously made some big saves," Whitney said. "He won the game for them."

Price's NHL debut was an event that was highly anticipated across Canada after he earned national fame by leading Canada to the World Junior Championship last season, earning MVP honors in the process. The former No. 5 overall pick of the Canadiens also was goaltender of the year in major junior hockey last season and then led Hamilton to the American Hockey League championship last spring.

Price said he was more relaxed for Wednesday's game than he had been at the World Junior tournament or in the AHL Calder Cup finals.

"If you look at the way he played in the past, like in the World Juniors, he played really well and in Hamilton... when it was time to close a series, he was there and played well," Montreal coach Gui Carbonneau said. "And tonight was one of those games."

Canadiens Hall of Fame goalies Ken Dryden and Roy also made their NHL debuts against the Penguins - Roy's first game was a 5-3 victory on Oct. 10, 1985.

"I read it in the game notes," said Price, as cool in the postgame meeting with the media as he was between the pipes, "It's kind of a coincidence. It's kind of weird that's how that worked out."

spoon

10-10-2007, 08:36 PM

Has anyone found out when and what channel the NHL channel will be airing on DTV

Nope, perhaps one of us lazy fuckers should call huh!?

Oh and can you believe how well Backstrom in Minny is playing already? 3 games, 2 shutouts!!! Is it the system or the goalie? I say both but he can't keep this up....can he!?

TheGameHHH

10-10-2007, 09:06 PM

oh yea, i forgot to congratulate the Islanders for beating the Rangers tonight! thank you, from the bottom of my Devils-loving heart.

Gwen

10-11-2007, 03:40 AM

oh yea, i forgot to congratulate the Islanders for beating the Rangers tonight! thank you, from the bottom of my Devils-loving heart.

You sonnuvabitch!

Yeah, that kind of sucked. The Rangers are having a rough go of it so far this season, but I have only two complaints from last nights game:
1) Why the HELL would you have dropped that last puck at center ice?
2) DiPietro, you're a stupid fag and you're not a captain. Stay away from the refs, you tool.
3) Why did the Islanders steal the stick salute (I know the Rangers aren't the only team that does it) from us and use it at Saturday's game? If you're going to mock it, don't steal it. Fuckers. (Okay, that was more than three points).

Hopefully things will get better for the boys. I can't believe this thread got to 6 pages before I posted (and Lisa beat me to posting). Also, I've converted another girl. Lisa has been coming to my place for Rangers game nights and she's really getting the game. Even Lou has given a couple of "Potvin sucks" whistle and chants out of nowhere. :clap:

NickyL0885

10-11-2007, 04:00 AM

You sonnuvabitch!

Yeah, that kind of sucked. The Rangers are having a rough go of it so far this season, but I have only two complaints from last nights game:
1) Why the HELL would you have dropped that last puck at center ice?
2) DiPietro, you're a stupid fag and you're not a captain. Stay away from the refs, you tool.
3) Why did the Islanders steal the stick salute (I know the Rangers aren't the only team that does it) from us and use it at Saturday's game? If you're going to mock it, don't steal it. Fuckers. (Okay, that was more than three points).

Hopefully things will get better for the boys. I can't believe this thread got to 6 pages before I posted (and Lisa beat me to posting). Also, I've converted another girl. Lisa has been coming to my place for Rangers game nights and she's really getting the game. Even Lou has given a couple of "Potvin sucks" whistle and chants out of nowhere. :clap:

Dont be jealous b/c the Isles kicked ur teams ass and are in 1st place. hey, theres always next season.

TheGameHHH

10-11-2007, 01:36 PM

this is soooo fucking gay. I'm going to see the Devils/Pathers AGAIN tonight, and then that's it for the rest of the season. They decided to schedule the Devils down here twice in the first two weeks of the season and then my best bet will be to catch them in Tampa (which is like a 3 and a half hour drive). I know they had to be on the road for a while so the new arena could finish being constructed, but how about not scheduling South Florida twice in October? Now my wad is blown for the rest of the year in terms of seeing my team play in person. The NHL pisses me off sometimes.

nate1000

10-12-2007, 06:01 AM

Dont be jealous b/c the Isles kicked ur teams ass and are in 1st place. hey, theres always next season.

Dude, seriously. You are four games in and this is how you are going to carry yourself? Too bad you didn't wait until game 5- nice showing, Isles. Your entire organization is the laughing stock of the NHL. See you in a month. Can't wait to hear your smack then.

nate1000

10-12-2007, 06:04 AM

I've converted another girl.

Pxplsthx.

Gwen

10-12-2007, 03:33 PM

Dude, seriously. You are four games in and this is how you are going to carry yourself? Too bad you didn't wait until game 5- nice showing, Isles. Your entire organization is the laughing stock of the NHL. See you in a month. Can't wait to hear your smack then.

Precisely. Heh.

Oh and Philly, way to be breaking stereotypes, you scumbags! Two dirty plays between the pre-season and the first five games.

El Mudo

10-12-2007, 05:54 PM

Boy did we lay an egg tonight against the Rangers....bleh

Kevin

10-12-2007, 06:36 PM

Boy did we lay an egg tonight against the Rangers....bleh

We are just good... It doesn't have to be you laying an egg..

On another note.. I am utterly EMBARRASSED! To be a Ranger fan tonight...

What was the purpose of Ranger fans boos to NYlander every time he touched the puck?? Was it his fault that they decided to sign Drury and Gomez, leaving no room for him?

They man played his heart out every minute he was on the ice for us.. Including playing hurt.. I could understand Edmonton Booing him.. But for Ranger fans to boo him is a fucking joke.. SHOW SOME FUCKING CLASS!

JesterOfSadness

10-12-2007, 06:38 PM

I think they would have been better off booing Poti.

TheGameHHH

10-12-2007, 06:43 PM

We are just good... It doesn't have to be you laying an egg..

On another note.. I am utterly EMBARRASSED! To be a Ranger fan tonight...

What was the purpose of Ranger fans boos to NYlander every time he touched the puck?? Was it his fault that they decided to sign Drury and Gomez, leaving no room for him?

They man played his heart out every minute he was on the ice for us.. Including playing hurt.. I could understand Edmonton Booing him.. But for Ranger fans to boo him is a fucking joke.. SHOW SOME FUCKING CLASS!

I missed that game tonight, obviously, but that pisses me off and im glad you called Rangers fan out on it. Last year every Rangers fan I knew was on that man's cock. Given the choice I absolutely would have gone after Drury and Gomez too, it sucks that he had to be the fall man but it was a business decision. Let the man play hockey.

Kevin

10-12-2007, 06:43 PM

I think they would have been better off booing Poti.

They did that too but fuck him.. He deserved to be Booed he was a bum.

El Mudo

10-13-2007, 04:59 AM

We are just good... It doesn't have to be you laying an egg..

On another note.. I am utterly EMBARRASSED! To be a Ranger fan tonight...

What was the purpose of Ranger fans boos to NYlander every time he touched the puck?? Was it his fault that they decided to sign Drury and Gomez, leaving no room for him?

They man played his heart out every minute he was on the ice for us.. Including playing hurt.. I could understand Edmonton Booing him.. But for Ranger fans to boo him is a fucking joke.. SHOW SOME FUCKING CLASS!

No.....it was us laying an egg

We played like crap. Took a penalty TEN SECONDS into the game, plus the PK stunk. We were being outshot 37-14 after two periods, and couldn't generate any offensive flow, because we were constantly killing penalties

Its a tribute to our D that we ONLY lost 3-1...this could/should have been 7 or 8-1

Kevin

10-13-2007, 09:21 AM

No.....it was us laying an egg

We played like crap. Took a penalty TEN SECONDS into the game, plus the PK stunk. We were being outshot 37-14 after two periods, and couldn't generate any offensive flow, because we were constantly killing penalties

Its a tribute to our D that we ONLY lost 3-1...this could/should have been 7 or 8-1

Yea and that had nothing to do with The Rangers sending out a quality line the whole game.. Sometimes you just play a good team.. And the reason you only lost 3-1 is the Rangers have not gelled yet.. You make your team out to be the Wings or Ottawa.. Or even the Lanche.. You are improved but not that good where you could classify a loss against a team with the Rangers talent as you not playing well.

Fallon

10-13-2007, 09:49 AM

Bruins beat the Kings 8-6 last night. Crazy game, Kessel got his first career hat trick and Savard's passing was insane, tape to tape at 90mph.

sailor

10-13-2007, 09:50 AM

what the eff is with the scheduling in the nhl? some teams have played 6 games while others have played as few as 3. how can standings have any meaning under these conditions? san jose, dallas and anaheim are tied for first, playing 3, 4 and 5 games respectively. what the eff??!?

Kevin

10-13-2007, 09:54 AM

Fallon

10-13-2007, 10:06 AM

Gwen

10-13-2007, 01:50 PM

this could/should have been 7 or 8-1

Oh, like the Islanders lost the other night? Heh, sorry I had to do that.

It was shitty of the Rangers to boo Nylander, and everyone agreed Poti is a 'mo and we would have booed him no matter what. My favorite was when I went to Rangers Bruins two seasons ago and everyone in the Garden was chanting "Leetch For Poti" while he was still on our team. He sucks. Everyone liked Nylander, but he wasn't beloved which is probably why he didn't get the respect he should have. He's been one of the driving forces on helping the Rangers go as far as they do now each season.

As for Boulerice I think he actually should have gotten a larger suspension. That was a hit for NO reason and the Flyers were winning by a landslide so its not like it could even be chalked up to aggression (not even that that'd be justified).

Hope the Rangers play as well tonight as they did last night.

El Mudo

10-13-2007, 04:06 PM

Yea and that had nothing to do with The Rangers sending out a quality line the whole game.. Sometimes you just play a good team.. And the reason you only lost 3-1 is the Rangers have not gelled yet.. You make your team out to be the Wings or Ottawa.. Or even the Lanche.. You are improved but not that good where you could classify a loss against a team with the Rangers talent as you not playing well.

Where exactly did I say that we were the Wings or Ottawa or Colorado?

Did you even WATCH the game? It was obvious from the opening draw it was not going to be our night, and it was clear that we shit the bed. It happens. Are the Rangers a good team? Yeah they are, but that game was CLEARLY a bed shitting. We were never competitive in that game.

El Mudo

10-13-2007, 04:10 PM

And besides, one of those goals should have been waved off, since its kinda tough for Olie Kolzig to make a save when he's getting ELBOWED IN THE HEAD

Kevin

10-13-2007, 04:17 PM

And besides, one of those goals should have been waved off, since its kinda tough for Olie Kolzig to make a save when he's getting ELBOWED IN THE HEAD

http://www.sallyminker.com/art/2-d/images/grapes-print.jpg

lleeder

10-13-2007, 04:24 PM

I guess Ottawa's not fucking around this year.

Bossanova

10-13-2007, 04:26 PM

Kevin acts like the Rangers have so much talent. Really who do they have that is so good anyway....................

Yes I am being sarcastic

Bossanova

10-13-2007, 05:21 PM

Devils lead 5-4. Wow they may win a second game

Kevin

10-13-2007, 05:31 PM

I guess Ottawa's not fucking around this year.

I kinda figured they will have a fast start in the east.. With so many changes with the east teams, it will take a while for them to gel.. Where as Ottawa has been together for a few years now.

Fallon

10-16-2007, 09:37 PM

NHL TV just launched. I just added the sports pack to my comcast, $4.99 for three months and $7.99 after that. Too bad I only wanted NFL and NHL network cause it comes with a bunch of garbage sports stations like horse racing, college and nba.

Kevin

10-16-2007, 09:45 PM

Fallon

10-16-2007, 09:46 PM

Tired of watching the B's?? Want to watch real hockey for a change??

I want more than a three minute segment with Barry Melrose for my hockey coverage. SportsCenter blows.

I've already seen three minutes of just Panthers/Canadians highlights.

JesterOfSadness

10-16-2007, 10:02 PM

I want more than a three minute segment with Barry Melrose for my hockey coverage. SportsCenter blows.

I've already seen three minutes of just Panthers/Canadians highlights.

Wait...Sportscenter actually showed hockey highlights? I thought all they cared about was what TO had for lunch.

spoon

10-17-2007, 04:09 AM

Boulerice is a homo.

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I totally agree that hit was bullshit and 25 games is a good suspension. But watch the video and notice that Bertuzzi's suspension for almost killing someone (breaking Moore's neck) isn't even long enough to make the list! What a fucking joke that it!

Oh and anyone catch the Avs / Blue Jacket's game a few days back? Scott Parker got cross-checked in the face just like that and got busted up bad by the stick. Not one mention, no suspension, no fine. This is why the league has no control, it picks and chooses when to fine/suspend and the playoffs/Pronger 1 game suspension is a perfect example. Fucking wrong!

spoon

10-17-2007, 04:13 AM

I want more than a three minute segment with Barry Melrose for my hockey coverage. SportsCenter blows.

I've already seen three minutes of just Panthers/Canadians highlights.

Exactly! Any news on where it is on DTV?

Fallon

10-17-2007, 07:55 PM

Revolutionary heated skate blades to be tested by NHL (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/rumors/post/Revolutionary-heated-skate-blades-to-be-tested-b?urn=nhl,49532)

One step closer to rocket skates!

Fallon

10-17-2007, 07:58 PM

Exactly! Any news on where it is on DTV?

From wikipedia.

"Since its official launch in the United States, the NHL Network announced on October 8, 2007 its plans to begin airing that month through carriage agreements with Cablevision, Comcast, Cox Communications, DirecTV, Dish Network and Time Warner Cable.

Dish Network targetted October 17, 2007 as an initial launch date for NHL Network, but will only be available at the start for their high-definition television subscribers. DirecTV is expected to make NHL Network available by the end of the month [5] as is the case with Cox Communications customers in northern Virginia. Cox subscribers in San Diego will have NHL Network by November 1, 2007."

Gwen

10-22-2007, 03:01 PM

Dear Rangers,

I wanted to thank you for reminding me how truly heartbreaking it is to be a Rangers fan. I almost forgot what it was like to cheer for a team that did nothing. Way to tie for last place with Minnesota for least goals scored.

Je suis plus triste,
Gwen

P.S. Thanks for the heads up on the time change of Saturdays game, too.

spoon

10-22-2007, 03:30 PM

From wikipedia.

"Since its official launch in the United States, the NHL Network announced on October 8, 2007 its plans to begin airing that month through carriage agreements with Cablevision, Comcast, Cox Communications, DirecTV, Dish Network and Time Warner Cable.

Dish Network targetted October 17, 2007 as an initial launch date for NHL Network, but will only be available at the start for their high-definition television subscribers. DirecTV is expected to make NHL Network available by the end of the month [5] as is the case with Cox Communications customers in northern Virginia. Cox subscribers in San Diego will have NHL Network by November 1, 2007."

Thanks Fal.

lleeder

10-22-2007, 03:37 PM

Why is the NHL the worst at making schedules? The Islanders don't play for a week. Some teams played 2 games right away then none for days then some more. Its so fucking confusing. :wacko:

cougarjake13

10-22-2007, 05:56 PM

Why is the NHL the worst at making schedules? The Islanders don't play for a week. Some teams played 2 games right away then none for days then some more. Its so fucking confusing. :wacko:

b/c they know no one is watching

Bossanova

10-22-2007, 05:57 PM

b/c they know no one is watching

They are trying to market like the NBA

cougarjake13

10-22-2007, 06:00 PM

They are trying to market like the NBA

ohh so when are they gonna debut spinners on the skates and make everything more inner city friendly ??

Gwen

10-24-2007, 03:43 AM

ohh so when are they gonna debut spinners on the skates and make everything more inner city friendly ??

That made me giggle.

I think the Versus commentator (don't remember which of the in studio guys said it) nailed it when he said "the rangers can't buy a goal". They are trying, but for the life of them this effing team can't score. I don't know what the deal is. We were so close to at least getting one last night and all you heard was the freakin' clang off one of the pipes.

Rar.

spoon

10-24-2007, 02:51 PM

They'll break through soon enough bc they just have too many weapons for this to continue. And with Lund playing like he is, you'll only need 2-3 a night. However, they are digging quite a hole so early.

TheGameHHH

10-24-2007, 02:55 PM

If I was a Rangers fan the last thing I would be is concerned. That team is one tiny break away from busting off about 14 wins in a row. They're still going to smash through most of the East aside from Ottawa. Unlike my Devils who now love giving up 6 goals a night while only scoring 3.

Gwen

10-24-2007, 03:14 PM

The team looks good and Lundqvist is definitely playing awesome, but we keep coming up against hot assed goalies. All of the goalies we've faced have been pretty on point. Even both of the Atlanta goalies played amazingly against us.

I just wish we could freakin' score already then I could move along with my life for a while until MY season starts up after Thanksgiving.

spoon

10-24-2007, 03:29 PM

ralphbxny

10-24-2007, 09:10 PM

At least GVAC is Hapyy! Damn Rangers!

Gwen

10-25-2007, 03:09 AM

"MY season"???

Yes, my season, when I actually get to play. I haven't played in like 2 years so I'm dying to get back on the ice.

I saved Brett's post for posterity because he actually said something nice about the Rangers so the next time he sends me a text about how the Rangers suck, I can remind myself that he doesn't really believe it.

Gwen

10-25-2007, 05:50 PM

Check out the NHL Academy. (http://home.comcast.net/~stadiumpublishing/nhlacademy/index.html) Totally worth the length of it all. I printed out my diploma.

spoon

10-25-2007, 08:05 PM

Yes, my season, when I actually get to play. I haven't played in like 2 years so I'm dying to get back on the ice.

I saved Brett's post for posterity because he actually said something nice about the Rangers so the next time he sends me a text about how the Rangers suck, I can remind myself that he doesn't really believe it.

Shit Gwen, I didn't think you could get any cooler!

If you're ever looking for a team to play on and don't mind driving to the Ice House in Hackensack, NJ hit me up. I run/captain teams on different levels so you can fit in where your play is best suited. We have a blast and I'm almost done convincing Doogie and Gvac back on the start up team already! Hell, if we get enough R/F guys/gals perhaps JJ and the show will sponsor us!! :wink: That's a pipe dream I know, but it would rule.

TheGameHHH

10-26-2007, 11:40 AM

King Hippos Bandaid

10-26-2007, 11:58 AM

5]Shit Gwen, I didn't think you could get any cooler[/B]!

If you're ever looking for a team to play on and don't mind driving to the Ice House in Hackensack, NJ hit me up. I run/captain teams on different levels so you can fit in where your play is best suited. We have a blast and I'm almost done convincing Doogie and Gvac back on the start up team already! Hell, if we get enough R/F guys/gals perhaps JJ and the show will sponsor us!! :wink: That's a pipe dream I know, but it would rule.

agreed, a Ranger Fan & Ron & Fez Fan. if I wasn't Married, Id swing and miss trying to hook up with ya

Her Fiancee is a Lucky Man

:king:

Gwen

10-27-2007, 05:28 AM

Awww, you guys are the best. :wub:

Brett you're still a fucker, but I mean that in the most positive way. I got your text at work and I started laughing, 'cause deep down now, I know the truth.

JesterOfSadness

10-27-2007, 05:34 PM

Any word on if the 3rd Flyer player is gonna be suspended? That hit on Bergeron was pretty bad.

Fallon

10-27-2007, 09:46 PM

Any word on if the 3rd Flyer player is gonna be suspended? That hit on Bergeron was pretty bad.

FUCKING THUGS!!!

:furious::furious::furious::furious:

TheGameHHH

10-27-2007, 09:57 PM

Awww, you guys are the best. :wub:

Brett you're still a fucker, but I mean that in the most positive way. I got your text at work and I started laughing, 'cause deep down now, I know the truth.

so everyone else is the best and im a fucker? not cool.......now you will receive more ranger texts throughout the year.

spoon

10-27-2007, 10:18 PM

so everyone else is the best and im a fucker? not cool.......now you will receive more ranger texts throughout the year.

Shut up fucker!

King Hippos Bandaid

10-28-2007, 05:49 AM

Rangers Suck Now

Beat em while you can

:king:

Gwen

10-28-2007, 07:12 AM

That was super-scumbag of the Flyers, again. The league really needs to step in and do something about that. Everyone who was talking about the play was saying how he had ample time to stop himself.

And yes, the Ranger's lost...again. We really need to get it together, there was no reason that we should have had so many unfruitful shots. There were a couple of plays where we were just slightly out of position, most notably to me a pass to Hollweg last night in the second period where he just over-skated it by a second and couldn't get a shot off. Maybe getting Avery back in the line up when he's cleared to play will be the x-factor in getting us to gel better? Not that Avery is anything super-spectacular, but he's been missing since game 2, and we did pretty okay in the first game.

Too bad the Isles lost WAY worse, ahahahha. Small things for me to take solace in and at least from what I saw in the first period another example of stupid DiPi trying to play the puck when he shouldn't, spacing out, losing it and getting scored on. Good for him. :clap:

And Brett, you know I have nothing but love for ya, my little ray of Florida Sunshine. I meant fucker in a nice way, it is a term of endearment. Now if I call you a fucking douche then you should worry.

spoon

10-28-2007, 04:56 PM

What the fuck is with the Flyers and dirty hits this year!?

On a side note I have two funny updates for you all. First, I caught this on MADTV last night and it was hilarious. And funny enough, Avery is in it so it fits.

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Second, I joined the Avs message board and got banned in three days for fighting idiotic trade rumors similar to those yankee WFAN rumors, and blind love for Theodore based on the past and him being Canadian vs. European. You would figure it would take me more then three days/30 posts to get banned on the site of the team I love! Hilarious and I also got in trouble for ripping coach Q's goalie choices.

lleeder

10-28-2007, 05:27 PM

Second, I joined the Avs message board and got banned in three days for fighting idiotic trade rumors similar to those yankee WFAN rumors, and blind love for Theodore based on the past and him being Canadian vs. European. You would figure it would take me more then three days/30 posts to get banned on the site of the team I love! Hilarious and I also got in trouble for ripping coach Q's goalie choices.

I hope that makes Board Gossip.

spoon

10-28-2007, 06:13 PM

I hope that makes Board Gossip.

You bastard!

JesterOfSadness

10-29-2007, 12:10 PM

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=341554

So Jones is getting suspended for only 2 games. I think that's bullshit, he should have gotten more...:annoyed:

NickyL0885

10-29-2007, 01:27 PM

Too bad the Isles lost WAY worse, ahahahha. Small things for me to take solace in and at least from what I saw in the first period another example of stupid DiPi trying to play the puck when he shouldn't, spacing out, losing it and getting scored on. Good for him. :clap:

Yes, DP played bad but I'd still rather have him over Lady Lunquist. BTW, hows those big signings working out for ya?

Kevin

10-29-2007, 02:27 PM

Yes, DP played bad but I'd still rather have him over Lady Lunquist. BTW, hows those big signings working out for ya?

Stop it.. You mean Earth 2 right?? Depefagtro cant carry Henry's jock strap.. And relax, we are not out of fucking Oct yet.. Talk to me in January when your out and we are positioning for playoff seeding.. Islander fans are funny.. Id Rather have Chein Meng Wang running my team, than Charles..

Tenbatsuzen

10-29-2007, 02:33 PM

Well...

The Maple Leafs have Trish Stratus...

The Rangers had Carol Alt and Elisa Cuthbert...

The Islanders have Hilary Duff...

and I hate the Devils.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7674/devil0041be953wo0.th.jpg (http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=devil0041be953wo0.jpg)

spoon

10-29-2007, 03:03 PM

No clue, who is that Matty?

Gwen

10-29-2007, 05:20 PM

Me either, Spoon. No clue who that is, sorry kiddo.

Anyhow, the Rangers still can only hit post, dunno what the deal is. Like Nigel Dawes signed some kinda contract with the Devil (not the Devils) that only he can score. So weird and insanely frustrating.

Looks like Jags got his jack o'lantern face just in time for halloween! Apparently toothless Czechs are what we need to score.

Spoon, I think you need to log that among your list of personal bests.

EffMeBoobs

10-29-2007, 05:38 PM

Wooot Rangers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ralphbxny

10-29-2007, 05:39 PM

no more mouth peices for the rangers!

Tenbatsuzen

10-31-2007, 03:18 PM

No clue, who is that Matty?

Me either, Spoon. No clue who that is, sorry kiddo.

Her name is Emmy Rossum. She's been in a few movies, most notably "Phantom of the Opera" and "Poseidon".

She's also a singer and put out a pop album.

Tenbatsuzen

10-31-2007, 03:19 PM

BTW, I hope that WFAN's mic setup for Devils game is weird, because if my ear is hearing this correctly, the new arena is HORRIBLY empty.

NickyL0885

10-31-2007, 03:31 PM

BTW, I hope that WFAN's mic setup for Devils game is weird, because if my ear is hearing this correctly, the new arena is HORRIBLY empty.

I dont get it. The devils get no fans to come to the rink for games, yet they get a new arena. My Isles cant get one, yet they at least draw a decent crowd. what a waste of construction in NJ.

TheGameHHH

10-31-2007, 03:38 PM

BTW, I hope that WFAN's mic setup for Devils game is weird, because if my ear is hearing this correctly, the new arena is HORRIBLY empty.

doesn't surprise me......and pisses me off at the same time. they barely show up for playoff games. though its not exactly "cheap" to go to a game. I usually make about 5 games a year and i think thats a decent number for a fan. when i visit home over christmas im going to a game on the 28th. im excited to see the place. maybe they should have saved that money and spent it on Gomez and Rafalski.

Tenbatsuzen

10-31-2007, 03:39 PM

I dont get it. The devils get no fans to come to the rink for games, yet they get a new arena. My Isles cant get one, yet they at least draw a decent crowd. what a waste of construction in NJ.

http://www.viewaskew.com/chasingamy/images/hoop.gif

"GENTRIFICATION!"

Marc with a c

10-31-2007, 04:40 PM

gwen is online. she is about to post something in here.

Bossanova

10-31-2007, 05:10 PM

I like the Newark Devils, they are feisty

JesterOfSadness

10-31-2007, 06:15 PM

BTW, I hope that WFAN's mic setup for Devils game is weird, because if my ear is hearing this correctly, the new arena is HORRIBLY empty.

Hello, it's location is in Newark. Nuff said really..

Tenbatsuzen

10-31-2007, 07:05 PM

Hello, it's location is in Newark. Nuff said really..

One of the reasons why Newark was picked is because of it's location. It's one of the most accessible locations in the state.

However, it's full of unsavory characters.

the radio voices were REALLY pushing how "safe" it was to get to the stadium.

Gwen

11-01-2007, 03:18 PM

gwen is online. she is about to post something in here.

Hahaha, this made me laugh so freakin' hard. Good times.

The new caps jerseys are pretty damn dope.

El Mudo

11-01-2007, 04:22 PM

Hahaha, this made me laugh so freakin' hard. Good times.

The new caps jerseys are pretty damn dope.

I love em....Im still kinda eh about the logo itself...Maybe its cause i was such a huge huge fan of the old school look i grew up with

King Hippos Bandaid

11-01-2007, 04:27 PM

Hahaha, this made me laugh so freakin' hard. Good times.

The new caps jerseys are pretty damn dope.

agreed, Washington has sucked recently with the Caps and Wizards

esp. the Wizards Alt. Jerseys

:king:

El Mudo

11-01-2007, 04:30 PM

agreed, Washington has sucked recently with the Caps and Wizards

esp. the Wizards Alt. Jerseys

:king:

I never really dug the blue look....i think all the DC teams should stick with a red white and blue color scheme...the Nats have it and the Caps have gone back to it, but I dunno if you can really fit Wizards and red white and blue together. Ive hated the name Wizards ever since they changed it from Bullets...Hell i still call em the Bullets

I miss Scott Stevens...we should have never let him get away :down:

http://www.legendsofhockey.net/graphinduct/Stevens01.jpg

El Mudo

11-01-2007, 04:35 PM

By the way, if anyone believes a new stadium can't completely change a city, check out this tidbit i read in the paper the other day

As Verizon Center begins its 10th year as home of three professional sports teams, city and business leaders are quick to credit the arena for sparking a remarkable revitalization of the District's downtown corridor.

The neighborhood around what now is Verizon Center was largely vacant a decade ago. The businesses that did operate there brought little in the way of life, let alone revenue, to the city. But in the decade since the arena opened, developers have invested more than $5 billion in the area. Nearly 10 million square feet of office space has appeared, along with scores of new restaurants, theaters and museums.

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It's difficult to determine the economic impact a sports facility has on its surrounding area. Many economists argue that stadiums and arenas contribute little to the local economy. Some even label them a drain on resources.

But the figures in this case are tough to ignore: Nearly $5 billion in development has been completed within a six-block radius of Verizon Center since it was built, representing more than $1 billion in tax revenue and 41,000 new jobs. The number of visitors to the area has tripled, and the number of restaurants has nearly doubled.

Quite simply, the area around Verizon Center is now a place city residents and suburbanites visit, both consciously and constantly.

"You actually hear people say, 'I don't go there anymore because it's too crowded,' " said Gerry Widdicombe, director of economic development for the Downtown D.C. Business Improvement District.

Not so a decade ago.

"Back then the area was all closed off," Mr. Malone said. "There was a park where the derelicts slept, and they urinated and everything there. There was just no life. It was just a seedy, forgotten part of the city."

Of course, this was not a matter of building an arena and watching development happen.

Real estate developers initially took big risks in assuming that foot traffic in the area would increase. Doug Jemal, owner of Douglas Development, became one of the first to jump in when he decided to redevelop Seventh Street, now home to several popular restaurants directly across from the arena.

Large tenants like Pepco, Washington Gas and the U.S. Mint gradually decided to relocate to the neighborhood. The International Spy Museum opened at 800 F St. NW and was an immediate hit, even though it was one of the few museums in the city to charge admission.

"You started to gradually see things come in and dot around there," Mr. Evans said.

Maybe there's hope for Newark?

King Hippos Bandaid

11-01-2007, 04:38 PM

By the way, if anyone believes a new stadium can't completely change a city, check out this tidbit i read in the paper the other day

Maybe there's hope for Newark?

there better be, I want to pre game somewhere b4 the Rangers Devils Game

Randy and I are going if anyone is going to be there

:king:

Gwen

11-01-2007, 04:52 PM

Haha, I love that Sam just called him Olie the Goalie. Good times.

Freitag

11-02-2007, 06:10 AM

By the way, if anyone believes a new stadium can't completely change a city, check out this tidbit i read in the paper the other day

Maybe there's hope for Newark?

We'll see. Corey Booker seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders, but this could also turn into a Baltimore situation, where the Inner Harbor area is fine but the rest of the city is hell.

The problem is, the fan support for the Devils was never there. It's inexcusable to have your second game in a brand new stadium only be 75 percent full.

barjockey

11-04-2007, 06:34 PM

NHL finals will be NYR vs Det

JesterOfSadness

11-05-2007, 01:29 AM

Ottawa is just gross.

cougarjake13

11-05-2007, 02:32 PM

NHL finals will be NYR vs Det

i'd be fine with that

spoon

11-05-2007, 03:17 PM

i'd be fine with that

Nope, so sorry!

spoon

11-05-2007, 03:18 PM

Ottawa is just gross.

Exactly!

And the West is sooo going to be a fucking battle.

lleeder

11-05-2007, 03:20 PM

We'll see. Corey Booker seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders, but this could also turn into a Baltimore situation, where the Inner Harbor area is fine but the rest of the city is hell.

The problem is, the fan support for the Devils was never there. It's inexcusable to have your second game in a brand new stadium only be 75 percent full.

He won't be around to see this response.

Bossanova

11-05-2007, 04:22 PM

Seriously, its very sad that the lower level is like 40% empty at "The Rock".

TheGameHHH

11-05-2007, 04:53 PM

Seriously, its very sad that the lower level is like 40% empty at "The Rock".

what's even sadder is the level at which the Devils are playing.

Bossanova

11-05-2007, 04:55 PM

what's even sadder is the level at which the Devils are playing.

This is just bad

denko

11-05-2007, 05:18 PM

King Hippos Bandaid

11-05-2007, 05:41 PM

Dear Satan:

Thanks for accepting my Soul

I do appreciate that you are letting Lundquist shutout teams left and right. I did not ask for shutouts

Thanks

KHB

:king:

Fallon

11-05-2007, 08:03 PM

the attendance in boston is horrible too. they have to resort to dragging out old timers to raise banners and shit to sell a ticket. sad thing is this is the best bruins team to hit the ice in a while. fuck ottawa
Their first few home games have had some bad timing. Either the same time or day as the Sox playoff or Pats games. Also the tickets are fucking expensive.

Kevin

11-05-2007, 08:38 PM

Rangers D is playing great.. And Lunqvist is just out of his mind.. This team is really shaping up...

And Hippos.. Not another word..

Marc with a c

11-05-2007, 08:42 PM

peek-a-boo

Kevin

11-05-2007, 08:44 PM

I may have to expand the order to all sports threads..

Freitag

11-06-2007, 05:28 AM

I may have to expand the order to all sports threads..

The first cruise Hippo booked was the Achille Lauro.

NickyL0885

11-06-2007, 07:04 PM

Wait? Whats that sound? O, thats right. Its the sound of the Islanders beating the Rangers, AGAIN!. Still winless on the road......ouch. Muahahaha

lleeder

11-06-2007, 07:07 PM

Rangers D is playing great.. And Lunqvist is just out of his mind.. This team is really shaping up...

And Hippos.. Not another word..

Yeah that went well tonight...for the first 2 periods at least:thumbup::clap::lol::drunk::drunk::bye:

EffMeBoobs

11-06-2007, 07:08 PM

Oh man this fucking sucks! I guess this means Andrew (Gwen's fiance) is getting the calls from LI as we speak. Ugh.

Kevin

11-07-2007, 06:32 AM

Yeah that went well tonight...for the first 2 periods at least:thumbup::clap::lol::drunk::drunk::bye:

Oh man this fucking sucks! I guess this means Andrew (Gwen's fiance) is getting the calls from LI as we speak. Ugh.

3 simple words..

King Hippos Bandaid..

Any other questions??

MHasegawa

11-08-2007, 06:03 AM

Being an oil fan mirrors that of a masochist, luckily being a knick fan ive adapted well. Roli gets sub'd against minnesota 8 shots into the 1st, starts the next game (opponent: colorado) making 35 saves and looses in a shootout.

Justifying why I've been very quiet here,

Manuel

Gwen

11-08-2007, 04:16 PM

3 simple words..

King Hippos Bandaid..

Any other questions??

Hah, it's true you reuned it. Rangers played well and then just kind of gave up in the 3rd. Isles had some nice goals, but freakin' DP is still a mook. What was up with that play in the 2nd period (I think?) when he just held the freakin puck in his glove behind the net for 10 seconds like he didn't know what the fuck to do with it.

Oh, and stop stealing our fucking stick salute...fuckers.

I wish we had center ice this season. I'm not getting to see much of my Stars this year.

TheGameHHH

11-08-2007, 05:42 PM

Marty is now one away from career win #500.

King Hippos Bandaid

11-08-2007, 06:05 PM

Hah, it's true you reuned it. Rangers played well and then just kind of gave up in the 3rd. Isles had some nice goals, but freakin' DP is still a mook. What was up with that play in the 2nd period (I think?) when he just held the freakin puck in his glove behind the net for 10 seconds like he didn't know what the fuck to do with it.

Oh, and stop stealing our fucking stick salute...fuckers.

I wish we had center ice this season. I'm not getting to see much of my Stars this year.

Gwenny dont drink Kevin's "Hippo Jinx" Kool Aid

The Rangers had rest and Beat a good Penguins Team

they are a good team, but I have No Opinion for the future

:king:

NickyL0885

11-08-2007, 10:14 PM

Hah, it's true you reuned it. Rangers played well and then just kind of gave up in the 3rd. Isles had some nice goals, but freakin' DP is still a mook. What was up with that play in the 2nd period (I think?) when he just held the freakin puck in his glove behind the net for 10 seconds like he didn't know what the fuck to do with it.

Oh, and stop stealing our fucking stick salute...fuckers.

I wish we had center ice this season. I'm not getting to see much of my Stars this year.

Its not your salute. It was started by european teams. yeesh. you ranger fans think you own everything. try winning a road game first.

Bossanova

11-10-2007, 11:50 AM

I am loving the NHL Network. Im watching a classic Canadiens-Bruins game from 88

Gwen

11-10-2007, 04:20 PM

We got to check out the NHL network the other weekend at one of the bars up here, looks pretty sweet. We're definitely thinking of getting Direct TV for it.

Tenbatsuzen

11-10-2007, 04:36 PM

We got to check out the NHL network the other weekend at one of the bars up here, looks pretty sweet. We're definitely thinking of getting Direct TV for it.

It's available on Comcast Digital, if you have it, on their sports tier.

BTW, I just realized that the Devils have a team in Newark, and their farm team in Trenton. All they need is another team in Camden and it would be an unholy trifecta of suck.

Gwen

11-10-2007, 04:53 PM

We have comcast now and they're awful. We will do anything to get rid of it. All we see that is available is the NFL network, not the NHL network.

Bossanova

11-10-2007, 05:18 PM

Looks like Brodeur will have to wait another night for 500. I dont remember the last time he was under .500 in wins

TheGameHHH

11-10-2007, 06:14 PM

Looks like Brodeur will have to wait another night for 500. I dont remember the last time he was under .500 in wins

this team is simply not good and its going to be a long season. Lou is finally going to feel the reprecusions of letting good hockey players walk over money.

Bossanova

11-10-2007, 06:21 PM

this team is simply not good and its going to be a long season. Lou is finally going to feel the reprecusions of letting good hockey players walk over money.

It is painful to watch. Marty is going to have a tough time going for all time wins and shut outs at this rate

TheGameHHH

11-10-2007, 06:25 PM

It is painful to watch. Marty is going to have a tough time going for all time wins and shut outs at this rate

exactly, and if Lou just swallowed his pride and realized that guys like Rafalski and Neidermeyer (though im not sure how much of a role family played over money) needed to be signed to make you better then the Devils might not be in this position. The addition of Colin White helps them, but he's not a difference maker. Hopefully he will learn this lesson and go out in the off-season and make moves to help their defense. That's how the Devils won Cups, it wasnt from their remarkable offense, it was their stellar defense and a goalie at the top of his game.

Bossanova

11-10-2007, 06:28 PM

exactly, and if Lou just swallowed his pride and realized that guys like Rafalski and Neidermeyer (though im not sure how much of a role family played over money) needed to be signed to make you better then the Devils might not be in this position. The addition of Colin White helps them, but he's not a difference maker. Hopefully he will learn this lesson and go out in the off-season and make moves to help their defense. That's how the Devils won Cups, it wasnt from their remarkable offense, it was their stellar defense and a goalie at the top of his game.

I am still upset about the Refalski loss. Scotty did want to play with Rob, so I can understand that. Lou may finally realize to open the wallet a bit

TheGameHHH

11-10-2007, 06:36 PM

I am still upset about the Refalski loss. Scotty did want to play with Rob, so I can understand that. Lou may finally realize to open the wallet a bit

is there a list of available free agent defensemen in '08? i'd like to see who could be available. even though i don't think our offense is up to par, especially with losing Gomez, i still think we could be successful with the offense we have. the defense just needs to get better.

Bossanova

11-10-2007, 06:44 PM

is there a list of available free agent defensemen in '08? i'd like to see who could be available. even though i don't think our offense is up to par, especially with losing Gomez, i still think we could be successful with the offense we have. the defense just needs to get better.

I will try to find a list. I am concerned with Elias' play so far as well

TheGameHHH

11-10-2007, 06:49 PM

I will try to find a list. I am concerned with Elias' play so far as well

yea me too, but if history tells us anything we know he's a good player. all players eventually play to their means, so i would attribute it to a slow start. hopefully im correct.

Bossanova

11-10-2007, 07:01 PM

Found one. Sorry for the length, but there are many.

Free Agents for 2008
Defense

ALLEN, BOBBY D BOS UFA
ARSENE, DEAN D WSH UFA
BAUMGARTNER, NOLAN D DAL UFA
BELAK, WADE D TOR UFA
BIRON, MATHIEU D MTL UFA
BLAKE, ROBERT D L.A UFA
BOUMEDIENNE, JOSEF D WSH UFA
BOYLE, DAN D T.B UFA
BRISEBOIS, PATRICE D MTL UFA
BROOKBANK, SHELDON D N.J UFA
BROOKBANK, WADE D CAR UFA
BROOKS, ALEXANDER D STL UFA
BUCKLEY, BRENDAN D L.A UFA
BYRNE, TREVOR D DAL UFA
CALDWELL, RYAN D PHX UFA
CAMPBELL, BRIAN D BUF UFA
CARKNER, MATT D OTT UFA
CARNEY, KEITH D MIN UFA
CHELIOS, CHRIS D DET UFA
COMMODORE, MIKE D CAR UFA
DALLMAN, KEVIN D L.A UFA
DAVISON, ROB D S.J UFA
DIPENTA, JOE D ANA UFA
DUPONT, MICKI D STL UFA
EATON, MARK D PIT UFA
FAHEY, JIM D CHI UFA
FERENCE, BRAD D DET UFA
FINGER, JEFF D COL UFA
FOOTE, ADAM D CBJ UFA
FORREST, JUSTIN D CAR UFA
GRAND-PIERRE, JEAN-LUC D N.J UFA
GRENIER, MARTIN D PHI UFA
HAINSEY, RON D CBJ UFA
HALE, DAVID D CGY UFA
HEDICAN, BRET D CAR UFA
HEJDA, JAN D CBJ UFA
HELMER, BRYAN D PHX UFA
HENRY, ALEX D NSH UFA
HILL, SEAN D MIN UFA
HUTCHINSON, ANDREW D NYR UFA
JACKMAN, BARRET D STL UFA
JANCEVSKI, DAN D T.B UFA
JANIK, DOUG D T.B UFA
JILLSON, JEFF D COL UFA
JOHANSSON, MAGNUS D CHI UFA
KALININ, DMITRI D BUF UFA
KASPARAITIS, DARIUS D NYR UFA
KINCH, MATTHEW D OTT UFA
KLEMM, JON D L.A UFA
KWIATKOWSKI, JOEL D ATL UFA
LAKOS, ANDRE D MIN UFA
LEACH, JAY D T.B UFA
LIDSTROM, NICKLAS D DET UFA
LILES, JOHN-MICHAEL D COL UFA
LILJA, ANDREAS D DET UFA
MALIK, MAREK D NYR UFA
MARA, PAUL D NYR UFA
MATVICHUK, RICHARD D N.J UFA
MCCARTHY, STEVE D ATL UFA
MEYER IV, FREDERICK D PHX UFA
MEZEI, BRANISLAV D FLA UFA
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