2007 Washington Redskins Thread

[Fezticle98]

Well, it's about that time. The games count from now on.

We are relatively healthy, with Portis, Samuels and Marcus Washington all participating fully in today's practice.

I really like the addition of Pete Kendall, as it addresses a glaring hole at left guard.

The defense has to improve and must find some way to get pressure on the opposition's QB.

Bring on the Dolphins! Hail to the Redskins!

[PhilDeez]

I have really high hopes for the Landry/Taylor duo at Saftey.
They are going to be nasty!

[cupcakelove]

Yeah! Go Skins! Please finish above .500 this year!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Ha've Made Reservations for 2 at the NFC East Cellar

They have a gr8 wine list

[PapaBear]

Yeah! Go Skins! Please finish above .500 this year!
That's the fighting spirit that I love!

BTW... I Skins'ed-up my myspace pretty good.

[Fezticle98]

I can't wait for the game tonight. With the Giants at 0-2 and coming into FedEx next week, it would be nice to send the Eagles to the cellar with them.

I have a good feeling about this game, but for no particular reason. It's going to be a big test.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Please Cover and total under 34 Points

I can make a C Note or 2 in my Office Pool

:king:

[Dirtybird12]

I hope the Redskins of Washington beat the Eagles of Philly.
Watch for Chris Cooley & Sean Taylor to have a big game.
23 - 17

[PapaBear]

How the hell did they pull that off after so many screw ups? Awesome TD!!!! Damn I love Cooley!

[PapaBear]

Some things I REALLY liked about this game...

1. Consistently had good field position to start a series.
2. With the exception of the 3 penalties on the same down (and they made the TD anyway), I don't think they had any penalties!
3. Three sacks.
4. Shots of sad Eagles fans!!!!!!

2-0 BABY!!!!:clap::thumbup:

[Fezticle98]

Some things I REALLY liked about this game...

1. Consistently had good field position to start a series.
2. With the exception of the 3 penalties on the same down (and they made the TD anyway), I don't think they had any penalties!
3. Three sacks.
4. Shots of sad Eagles fans!!!!!!

2-0 BABY!!!!:clap::thumbup:

5. Immaculate protection of Campbell by a patchwork o-line.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Please Cover and total under 34 Points

I can make a C Note or 2 in my Office Pool

:king:


thanks guys

Won my Office Pool


Now you get to play the Giants as a Thank you

:king:

[Fezticle98]

thanks guys

Won my Office Pool


Now you get to play the Giants as a Thank you

:king:

You are the Mr. Perfect of rf.net

[PapaBear]

Now you get to play the Giants as a Thank you
:king:
Good. We could use a nice easy game with no worries.

[PhilDeez]

Landry can bring it! He and Taylor, hands down the nastiest safety duo in the league.

My ultimate joy tonight came from the disappointment that was pouring from Jaws pores...he is the biggest homer, douche announcer I have ever heard. Go back to running the Soul and get off MNF, oh he is such a fing sore loser.

[A.J.]

Damn I love Cooley!

Mod quote.

[PapaBear]

Damn I love Cooley!

Mod quote.
A badge I'd proudly wear!

[scottinnj]

Congrats!

You guys shut down our passing game, and since we only have Westbrook to run the ball, the game was yours as soon as you got our defense wore out.

Andy Reid is a jackass-I didn't see a single Eagle WR in motion to deflect the never-ending hit and run coverage. McNabb can't scramble out of the pocket like he did before his ACL surgery, so its up to the recievers to GET OPEN!

So way to go to totally have our offensive strategy figured out in the first 5 minutes of the game. Wasn't too hard though, I had it figured after our first 3 and out.

[Kevin]

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[cupcakelove]

Looks like they took advantage of their week off. Sean Taylor is a monster.

[Fezticle98]

Absolutely dominating performance today. I can't believe how good the defense is compared to last year.

But for one terrible half against the Giants, they'd be 4-0. 3-1 feels pretty great though.

Next week @ GB. The Packers are going good right now, but I think the defense can shut them down. They don't run the ball well, so we can go after Favre and let Taylor and the boys continue to ballhawk.

[Dirtybird12]

Mike Sellers is a machine! BOOM:drunk:

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[Fezticle98]

The GB game was brutal. Our defense shut them down, but the offense failed again in the 2nd half.

The injuries on offensive line continue to mount. Casey Rabach and Todd Wade both aren't practicing this week, but hope to play on Sunday.

I thought Campbell played alright. He missed a few open passes, but the drops were even more costly. As far as the end of the game, we had no offensive line at that point. Moss was atrocious. I expect him to have a big game against the Cardinals if he is relatively healthy.

We have to win this game. Can't lose to a team, at home, with Tim Rattay as the starting QB. With New England looming, 4-2 would be much more comfortable than 3-3.

[PapaBear]

I hate it when they play the Cards. When they were in the division, the Cards would be having a terrible season and still beat the Skins almost every time.

[cougarjake13]

I hate it when they play the Cards. When they were in the division, the Cards would be having a terrible season and still beat the Skins almost every time.

yeh they seemed to do tats to the giants, boys and eagles also

[cupcakelove]

I'm really happy I can't watch this game on TV.

[Fezticle98]

I'm really happy I can't watch this game on TV.

This game made me sick to my stomach. Or maybe it was just all of the drinking.

[Fallon]

Wow.

[cupcakelove]

Did the Pats completely destroy their will? They weren't this bad before they played them.

[Fezticle98]

Did the Pats completely destroy their will? They weren't this bad before they played them.

That onside kick call was fuckin ballsy. Very unGibbs-like.

[cupcakelove]

That onside kick call was fuckin ballsy. Very unGibbs-like.

Yeah, but the way that played out made me feel like I was watching a high school football game.

[cupcakelove]

God they looked awful today. The little hope I had for something positive to happen this season is pretty much gone.

[Fezticle98]

God they looked awful today. The little hope I had for something positive to happen this season is pretty much gone.

Gotta be pleased that they are 5-3. They have won ugly against some bad teams. My expectations going into the season were pretty low, so I'm ok with where they are. This is a playoff type defense...just waiting for the offense to wake up and score some TDs.

[Fezticle98]

Waste of timeouts, stupid penalties at bad times, overly conservative play-calling and bad decisions to go for 2 point conversions.

This Joe Gibbs coaching staff steals money every week. They really must be one of the worst coached offenses in the league.

[cougarjake13]

Waste of timeouts, stupid penalties at bad times, overly conservative play-calling and bad decisions to go for 2 point conversions.

This Joe Gibbs coaching staff steals money every week. They really must be one of the worst coached offenses in the league.

didnt they hire the offensive guru from kansas city ???

[Fezticle98]

didnt they hire the offensive guru from kansas city ???

Yes, but apparently play-calling is a collaborative effort, especially in the red zone. Play-calling by committee...why hasn't anyone else tried this before?

I'm not sure exactly what Joe Gibbs does to help the team anymore. He's a blame taker and an excuse maker. The Cowboys are gonna shoot em full of holes, and fill em full of lead. :sad:

[Earlshog]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/11/26/bc.fbn.redskins.taylors.ap/index.html

[RAAMONE]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/11/26/bc.fbn.redskins.taylors.ap/index.html

holy shit...thats terrible...hes the man

[jauble]

from the blogs I've been reading he was shot near the groin and possibly was hit in the femoral artery

[Earlshog]

from the blogs I've been reading he was shot near the groin and possibly was hit in the femoral artery

I just heard on the radio he was air lifted to a trama center and is in critical condition.

[Freitag]

I just heard on the radio he was air lifted to a trama center and is in critical condition.

FoxSports says "extremely critical condition".

Right now the concern is with him making it, but even if he does, worst case scenario, career threatening injury.

[Kevin]

FoxSports says "extremely critical condition".

Right now the concern is with him making it, but even if he does, worst case scenario, career threatening injury.

Wow.. Not a great situation.. He is so talented, but he has a 10c head.

[Knowledged_one]

I am hoping that he can get through this, the guy was just starting to get it and was playing the best football of his life before the knee injury

[King Hippos Bandaid]

If almost wins counted as wins, you would be 10-1

:king:

[jauble]

well fox sports is reporting that he is out of surgery and its now a waiting game

[PapaBear]

On the local news, they're talking like there's still a strong chance he may not make it. Fuck.

[Earlshog]

On the local news, they're talking like there's still a strong chance he may not make it. Fuck.

ESPN radio just had a statement from his lawyer and it said he is clinging to life

[cupcakelove]

If almost wins counted as wins, you would be 10-1

:king:

Did it seriously take you almost 24 hours to think that one up?

[Tenbatsuzen]

WFAN's reporting he's in a coma, no word if that's a medically induced coma.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Did it seriously take you almost 24 hours to think that one up?

24 seconds, they are always in games, not so good in the clutch

:king:

[Tenbatsuzen]

According to Redskins Insider, the thing that is worrying the doctors at this point is brain injury or death.

[Earlshog]

According to Redskins Insider, the thing that is worrying the doctors at this point is brain injury or death.


crazy shit... Sunday you are one of the toughest players in the NFL, Monday you are clinging to life... I really hope he pulls through, this is an absolutely horrific story...

[Tenbatsuzen]

And playing the role of Matty Fridays in the Mainstream Sports Media: Michael Wilbon!

He's being a complete dick about this when the guy is clinging to life.

[Earlshog]

And playing the role of Matty Fridays in the Mainstream Sports Media: Michael Wilbon!

He's being a complete dick about this when the guy is clinging to life.

what is he saying? that he brought it on himself by hanging out with unsavory characters?

[cougarjake13]

what is he saying? that he brought it on himself by hanging out with unsavory characters?

yeh basically that with his past he (wilbon)wasnt surprised that something like this happened

[PapaBear]

For crying out loud! They don't even know if the shooter knew him. His lawyer said he was sleeping in the bedroom with his g/f and baby. He heard noises and went to the bedroom door with a machete. One shot hit the wall (thank God it didn't hit the baby), and the other hit him in the groin.

I don't think it's a medically induced coma. They are saying he's "non responsive". And yeah... There will most likely be brain damage if he lives.

[Earlshog]

yeh basically that with his past he (wilbon)wasnt surprised that something like this happened

Who knows that could be the case, but how about showing some respect and waiting until you have some facts to pass judgment. Especially with what this young mans family, friends, and teammates are going through right now.

[Fezticle98]

yeh basically that with his past he (wilbon)wasnt surprised that something like this happened

I wasn't shocked. Perhaps a little surprised, but certainly not shocked. I'm not saying that he deserved it (he certainly didn't), but if you had told me a Redskins player had been shot, he would've easily been the first one that I guessed.

I don't know how Wilbon phrased what he said, but how can you get on him for saying that he wasn't surprised by this? Based on Taylor's history, how could you be very surprised?

[cougarjake13]

Who knows that could be the case, but how about showing some respect and waiting until you have some facts to pass judgment. Especially with what this young mans family, friends, and teammates are going through right now.

yeh a few hours after it just happened he shoulda held back

but then we'd roast him for not saying the obvious, so there's no way to win if you're a sportswriter

[PapaBear]

So, will it be OK, if it turns out to have nothing to do with his past? Either way, it was too soon to be talking like that.

[Fezticle98]

Again, I haven't heard what Wilbon said, so I can only comment on the generality that he was not surprised due to Taylor's past. He is either right or wrong in saying this, I don't think timing has anything to do with it.

My first concern for was for Sean Taylor's life when I heard the news. I'm sure Wilbon's initial reaction was the same. However, he is a writer/commentator and is paid to comment on or analyze stories in-depth.

If you had heard "Redskin player shot...", who would you have guessed?

(Brandon Lloyd's 2 seasons have been awful, but not assassination-worthy)

[cougarjake13]

Again, I haven't heard what Wilbon said, so I can only comment on the generality that he was not surprised due to Taylor's past. He is either right or wrong in saying this, I don't think timing has anything to do with it.

My first concern for was for Sean Taylor's life when I heard the news. I'm sure Wilbon's initial reaction was the same. However, he is a writer/commentator and is paid to comment on or analyze stories in-depth.

If you had heard "Redskin player shot...", who would you have guessed?

(Brandon Lloyd's 2 seasons have been awful, but not assassination-worthy)

my vote woulda been for clinton portis

[PapaBear]

Scary....

Taylor was in such bad shape that he flatlined twice, once before he got to the hospital and again upon arriving, both from loss of blood, according to a team official who asked not to be identified.

And Promising...

"He was responsive to the doctor's request to squeeze his hand and show facial expressions, so the doctors were very happy about that," Vinny Cerrato, vice president of football operations, told reporters in a conference call from Miami. "That was some positive news that the doctors brought to us."

[Kevin]

Scary....



And Promising...

The scary thing about this is that i might have been pre meditated and planned.. Twice Taylor had to leave the team because of break ins.. His phone lines and other things were cut... Alot of players homes are starting to get robbed.. A bunch in Chi town.. A couple Giants got robbed in a neighborhood of a guy that i know.. These athletes have to start hiring full time body guards.. And not lackey clingers and entourage type.. Professional. I really hope the kid pulls through... If he does, this could be the wake up call the kid needs, to make sure the rest of his life goes well.

[PapaBear]

Fuck. He's dead.

[PapaBear]

Can't find a link, but it's being reported on the local NBC channel. The reporters are all pretty choked up.


Update... LINK (http://cbs2chicago.com/national/Sean.Taylor.shot.2.596424.html)

[Ogre]

unfuckingbelievable

[PhishHead]

yea they just had it on ESPN as well, that is freaking crazy. at first i thought O&A were joking because of makeup tuesday then checked ESPN.com and BAM....that fucking sucks.

[PapaBear]

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[Dirtybird12]

This is unreal man. I cannot believe Sean Taylor is dead. I cant believe we won't watch him knock the snot out of someone ever again.

Im in shock. Total shock.

[mendyweiss]

Rick "Doc" Walker said on his radio show " Why didn't Sean have any "Rotts" in his house ?
Give me a break !!!

[Rockvillejoe]

They had us believe he was going to be okay. Then this. The best things about this guy was his feared level of play and the fact that he snubbed the local beat reporters. He let his play do his talking. So long #21. You definitely will be missed.

[Freitag]

They had us believe he was going to be okay. Then this. The best things about this guy was his feared level of play and the fact that he snubbed the local beat reporters. He let his play do his talking. So long #21. You definitely will be missed.

It's like that episode of Growing Pains with Sandy!

[MM2]

RIP Sean. You will be missed.

[Freitag]

There's two realms of thought about this:

Wilbon says that he wouldn't believe any company's PR spin (i.e. the Redskins) that this was just a break in. He blamed Taylor's past behavior and the crowd he hung out with that led to this.

But this is NOT like the Darrent Williams case, where he was out clubbing and in the heat of the moment, guns came out.

This was a premeditated burglary attempt into a man's home. Whether the shooting was premeditated is unknown.

Taylor's injury is consistent with one of three things: 1) a struggle or 2) shooter was a bad shot or 3) shooter wanted to hurt Taylor.

It's sad, but Wilbon's also close to the Redskins, so he may know more than he was letting on. I just think his timing was horrifically bad. He can start saying this maybe tomorrow or the day after, but not when the guy is hanging on by a thread.

[Rockvillejoe]

It's like that episode of Growing Pains with Sandy!

you must be a cowboys fan or maybe not a football fan judging by your really cool persona on this site. but believe me, if you are a redskins fan, you are not having a good day. this guy was one of the few real stars on this very expensive team. taylor was in the same "feared"league as lawrence taylor and ray lewis in his prime. but go ahead, have your little typical circle jerk titter. thats what this place is best for anyway. its all good.

[MM2]

There's two realms of thought about this:

Wilbon says that he wouldn't believe any company's PR spin (i.e. the Redskins) that this was just a break in. He blamed Taylor's past behavior and the crowd he hung out with that led to this.

But this is NOT like the Darrent Williams case, where he was out clubbing and in the heat of the moment, guns came out.

This was a premeditated burglary attempt into a man's home. Whether the shooting was premeditated is unknown.

Taylor's injury is consistent with one of three things: 1) a struggle or 2) shooter was a bad shot or 3) shooter wanted to hurt Taylor.

It's sad, but Wilbon's also close to the Redskins, so he may know more than he was letting on. I just think his timing was horrifically bad. He can start saying this maybe tomorrow or the day after, but not when the guy is hanging on by a thread.

Yeah, I love Michael Wilbon, but he's out of line. Let the man rest in peace before you call him out.

Bottom line is no matter how good or bad the guy was, he didn't deserve to die.

[MM2]

you must be a cowboys fan or maybe not a football fan judging by your really cool persona on this site. but believe me, if you are a redskins fan, you are not having a good day. this guy was one of the few real stars on this very expensive team. taylor was in the same "feared"league as lawrence taylor and ray lewis in his prime. but go ahead, have your little typical circle jerk titter. thats what this place is best for anyway. its all good.

I don't think it matters that Sean Taylor was a beast. It doesn't make it any more tragic. If it was Vernon Fox or someone like that, I'd still be upset.

I'm not sad because I'm a Redskins fan, I'm sad because I'm a life fan. Just a horrible situation.

[MM2]

I don't think it matters that Sean Taylor was a beast. It doesn't make it any more tragic. If it was Vernon Fox or someone like that, I'd still be upset.

I'm not sad because I'm a Redskins fan, I'm sad because I'm a life fan. Just a horrible situation.

When I first heard about the situation I was upset because I wanted Sean Taylor to return this season.

When I found out he was in critical condition, I could have cared less if he ever played again, I just didn't want him to die, he didn't deserve to go out like that. No one does.

RIP Sean.

[Dirtybird12]

Im hearing more and more about phone lines being cut during home invasions.
Thats scary stuff. Sadly, I think there is more to this story.

Someone left a knife on Taylor's bed in that house a few weeks ago after breaking in.

Im hearing conflicting reports about the gf. ( neice of Andy Garcia I believe)
First I heard she slept through it all. I thought that sounded odd.

Then I heard she woke up and tried to call 911 - found out the phone was cut and used his cell phone to call the fuzz.

Sick. the whole story is.

[Freitag]

you must be a cowboys fan or maybe not a football fan judging by your really cool persona on this site. but believe me, if you are a redskins fan, you are not having a good day. this guy was one of the few real stars on this very expensive team. taylor was in the same "feared"league as lawrence taylor and ray lewis in his prime. but go ahead, have your little typical circle jerk titter. thats what this place is best for anyway. its all good.

Wait, WHAT?

Yeah. Cowboys fan. You're a genius. It was a little off-setting joke, because Sandy's death was one of the most shocking moments on Growing Pains, but whatever.

There's no denying that Taylor was a very good football player. But putting him in the same league as two HOF players when Taylor's only had 2 1/2 seasons in the league is a little much, don't you think?

He was a well-liked person by his team, and apparently getting his life in order. But be very careful about whose company you put him into.

And it obviously shows how much you know about football, when you talk about DB being the same as an LB. I think the proper analogy would be Lott and Sanders, if you were making the comparison.

Didn't you leave, anyway?

[Rockvillejoe]

When I first heard about the situation I was upset because I wanted Sean Taylor to return this season.

When I found out he was in critical condition, I could have cared less if he ever played again, I just didn't want him to die, he didn't deserve to go out like that. No one does.

RIP Sean.

That's a very noble sentiment. I truly respect that. But to be blunt and honest, his effect on me by his passing is directly linked to him being a redskin and how he played a huge role on this team. Other than that, my reaction would have been the same as when I read about other seemingly senseless deaths in DC. That being of a minor sense of sadness for the victims' family and regret that someone in their prime was taken down. I didn't know Taylor as a person, only as a warrior on Sunday afternoon.
A lot of locals are already blaming taylor himself for his own demise. I think at this point
placing blame is inappropriate and irrelevant. He's dead and for all of us who truly enjoyed his play and personality on the field are sad today.
Whether we find out he had it coming as payback for earlier actions, or whether he is another innocent victim of a home invasion doesn't change the fact that his 18 month child no longer has a father, and football fans know that we no longer have one of the hardest hitting defenders in the league.

[Freitag]

Im hearing more and more about phone lines being cut during home invasions.
Thats scary stuff. Sadly, I think there is more to this story.

Someone left a knife on Taylor's bed in that house a few weeks ago after breaking in.

Im hearing conflicting reports about the gf. ( neice of Andy Garcia I believe)
First I heard she slept through it all. I thought that sounded odd.

Then I heard she woke up and tried to call 911 - found out the phone was cut and used his cell phone to call the fuzz.

Sick. the whole story is.


ESPN confirmed the cut phone line thing, but ESPN also said that Vick wouldn't be in indicted.

I think, just like the Benoit case, it's way too early to figure out what happened, except someone was in the house who didn't belong there, something went bad, and Taylor got shot.

Peter King was on Carton and Boomer this morning discussing it, and said how people may feel slighted in the old neighborhood when someone makes it big and forgets about them.

My question is - if the first break in is legitimate - did Taylor get the police involved?

[Rockvillejoe]

Wait, WHAT?

Yeah. Cowboys fan. You're a genius. It was a little off-setting joke, because Sandy's death was one of the most shocking moments on Growing Pains, but whatever.

There's no denying that Taylor was a very good football player. But putting him in the same league as two HOF players when Taylor's only had 2 1/2 seasons in the league is a little much, don't you think?

He was a well-liked person by his team, and apparently getting his life in order. But be very careful about whose company you put him into.

And it obviously shows how much you know about football, when you talk about DB being the same as an LB. I think the proper analogy would be Lott and Sanders, if you were making the comparison.

Didn't you leave, anyway?

Leave? and let the inmates/douche bags take over the asylum? surely you jest. Your level of knowledge regarding talent in the NFL is best illustrated by you putting Sean Talyor in the same category as Deon "no hitter" Sanders. Deon Sanders prided himself on the fact that he would play entire games without hitting anyone. Taylor on the other hand became a pro bowler because he hit people.
I put Sean Taylor in the same league as Lawrence Taylor not because they have the same last name but because they both had the same effect on offense coordinators. That being that game planning was done AROUND these two feared defenders. Coaches would actually design plays away from these two. If you watch recevers over the middle. they too would get alligator arms when either taylor was in the vicinity. Sean Taylor played without the benefit of snorting copious amounts of COCAINE before games as Lawrence Taylor admitted to doing. So who knows how really intense LT would have played without his COKE? Deon Sanders? please. You may have a case for Ronnie Lott, but keep in mind Lott had a much better supporting cast than Taylor did, where Lott could freelance a lot more than they let Taylor. Now I gotta get accupunture, so feed on this for awhile. I'll be checking later, freitag.

[cupcakelove]

This awful. Taylor was a great player. :down:

[Earlshog]

What a horrific story. It made me sick when I flipped on ESPN news and saw in the bottom corner he was dead. I don't think any of us have the diction to describe the senselessness of this act.

As far as a football player ( My chick is a Skins fan so I (get stuck, haha) watch them every week) he was downright nasty. He was fearless, a real throw back player, such an exciting and rare tatlent to watch. I actually looked forward to watching the Skins on defense becasue of him. I have no doubt he would have excelled at his position for the next 10 years andwas on his way to a Hall of Fame career.

He was as tough as they come. This is a very sad day.

RIP Sean

[Dash77]

It's sad to see another young man die, who was working on turning his life around, prayers go out to his family..
RIP Sean :sad:

[Freitag]

Leave? and let the inmates/douche bags take over the asylum? surely you jest. Your level of knowledge regarding talent in the NFL is best illustrated by you putting Sean Talyor in the same category as Deon "no hitter" Sanders. Deon Sanders prided himself on the fact that he would play entire games without hitting anyone. Taylor on the other hand became a pro bowler because he hit people.
I put Sean Taylor in the same league as Lawrence Taylor not because they have the same last name but because they both had the same effect on offense coordinators. That being that game planning was done AROUND these two feared defenders. Coaches would actually design plays away from these two. If you watch recevers over the middle. they too would get alligator arms when either taylor was in the vicinity. Sean Taylor played without the benefit of snorting copious amounts of COCAINE before games as Lawrence Taylor admitted to doing. So who knows how really intense LT would have played without his COKE? Deon Sanders? please. You may have a case for Ronnie Lott, but keep in mind Lott had a much better supporting cast than Taylor did, where Lott could freelance a lot more than they let Taylor. Now I gotta get accupunture, so feed on this for awhile. I'll be checking later, freitag.

This is the most insane sports babbling I've ever read on this board. In a single post, you've surpassed Bulldogcakes in pure banality. And I also think you place your importance to this board WAAAAAY above where it should be.

[TheMojoPin]

Guys, please knock off the pissing contest.

[Knowledged_one]

amen mojo amen

[King Hippos Bandaid]

fucking animals

his placed was broken into, I would have hired a security guard 24/7 to protect

this is a loss to the Redskins the NFL and to sports as a whole

:king:

[Kevin]

Please cut the nonsense arguing.. This is not about you or nonsense bickering. This is about a young man who went way before his time. Made even sadder by the fact that he had seemed to turn his life around, after the birth of his daughter. He was a great safety, and will be missed. When ever you watched the skins, he was the player you kept your eye on, when the d was on the Field.. You expected a great hit on every play.. It sucks that we wont ever see him on the Field again. It sucks that his daughter will grow up without a father. At least he left her with enough money to be taken care of all her life, even though that will never substitute for the fact of not getting to know her father.


Rip Sean Taylor.. You will be missed.

[MM2]

Please cut the nonsense arguing.. This is not about you or nonsense bickering. This is about a young man who went way before his time. Made even sadder by the fact that he had seemed to turn his life around, after the birth of his daughter. He was a great safety, and will be missed. When ever you watched the skins, he was the player you kept your eye on, when the d was on the Field.. You expected a great hit on every play.. It sucks that we wont ever see him on the Field again. It sucks that his daughter will grow up without a father. At least he left her with enough money to be taken care of all her life, even though that will never substitute for the fact of not getting to know her father.


Rip Sean Taylor.. You will be missed.

Well said brotha.

[Knowledged_one]

fucking animals

his placed was broken into, I would have hired a security guard 24/7 to protect

this is a loss to the Redskins the NFL and to sports as a whole

:king:

Its being reported that the external phone lines were cut as well and the call was made on a cell phone to 911

[Doctor Z]

This is truly just a horrible horrible story. I don't really follow football, or know Sean Taylor all that well as a player... but it just broke my heart this morning when I heard Chris Carlin report on the FAN that he had died. So fucked up.

[TheMojoPin]

Damn, I was checking out those clips on the last page...that guy played some serious smashmouth football. Some of those hits are insane.

[Kevin]

This is truly just a horrible horrible story. I don't really follow football, or know Sean Taylor all that well as a player... but it just broke my heart this morning when I heard Chris Carlin report on the FAN that he had died. So fucked up.

This hit me alot harder then i thought it would.. He was not a player on my team, or did i know him personaly. But i am really bummed about this.. I do not know if it is because he was so young, or the fact that he grew up in poverty, and did not have much time to enjoy finaly having money. But this hit me pretty hard.

[Knowledged_one]

there are plenty of videos of Taylor on YouTube and myspace videos as well as a site called like torresa.com has a lot of stuff

I never buy current player jerseys because of how they switch teams but finally broke down and got a Sean Taylor jersey earlier this year, now its just a sad reminder

[Rockvillejoe]

This hit me alot harder then i thought it would.. He was not a player on my team, or did i know him personaly. But i am really bummed about this.. I do not know if it is because he was so young, or the fact that he grew up in poverty, and did not have much time to enjoy finaly having money. But this hit me pretty hard.


Just for the record, and no pissing was ever intended on this thread, and leave bulldogcakes alone. he actually is one of the reasons why I log onto this site. funny, insightful, with a sharp edge, I was just defending #21 posthumously, Sean Taylor grew up middle class in Fla. His father was chief of police, but he was actually raised by his mother's family in a wholesome, working class environment. His high school teachers state that he was a delight to have in the classroom. He was probably a good guy. He was a great football player, tragically outdone by a thug. I give him full credit for apparently grabbing a machete and trying to protect his daughter and girlfriend. That's heroic.

Here are some things to ponder. May I preface my remarks with the fact that regardless of what we learn really happened, he is dead and his daughter lost her father and we lost a great football player. Now with that, isnit it odd that:

1) he was shot in the groin? this is not a target area to kill someone. 2 to the chest, 1 to the forehead. thats the SOP for killing someone. Shooting a groin is more an act of maliciousness, like cutting off a penis that has been misbehaving, a la lorena bobbit.
2) his grilfriend claims, like Sgt. Schultz, that she "saw nothing, knows nothing".

Point: could she have been the shooter? crimes of passion have no logic. So for her to murder her future meal ticket was not a factor. Do I think she did it? nah.

So, how do you explain the cut telephone wires?

1) First of all, telephone wires are used not only for phones, but also for alarms systems.I always thought that newly cut telephone wires would automatically activate the alarm and summon the police. The reason why the police did not respond was because the wires were cut 8 days previously. Talyor was then in DC, and upon his return this week probably did not get around to fixing the wires. He probably thought the chance of anyone having the nerve to strike again, and with him there, were slim.

Had he really turned to the straight and narrow?

1) unknown, but apparently along the way he had made some very angry enemies.
2) angry enough to shoot him in the groin and not steal anything.

Conclusion.
1) this was not a robbery, burglary, or attempted rape. This was RETRIBUTION for something that happened between Taylor and an unknown assailant. Nothing stolen, a shot to the groin, and a quick getaway. possibly without the intent to murder him, just maim him. A planned hit to make a point. nothing more, nothing less.

Time will tell, and like I said, all the speculation in the world won't bring him back. It's all so avoidable. A real shame.

[Fezticle98]

Damn. It's finally starting to sink in.

The kid was only 24 and an AMAZINGLY talented football player. Anyone who followed the game could see that he was likely on a path to greatness. What a shame.

I don't know how his teammates will even be able to take the field on Sunday. It's gonna be tough to watch.

[Knowledged_one]

For all fans interested in Sean Taylor

http://www.cafepress.com/bucktowntees

This guy is selling memorial shirts to benefit whatever foundation his family chooses

Also Clinton Portis will be wearing #21 this weekend to honor Sean at the game

[Fezticle98]

It pains me to state the obvious, but Gibbs is an embarassment. He's asked to do so little with the coaching staff that they have assembled, but consistently manages to cost his team with awful decisions.

It didn't matter as much to me whether they won or lost today, but to lose that way is painful. If he drills a 51-yarder, at least he earned it.

[PhilDeez]

It pains me to state the obvious, but Gibbs is an embarassment. He's asked to do so little with the coaching staff that they have assembled, but consistently manages to cost his team with awful decisions.

It didn't matter as much to me whether they won or lost today, but to lose that way is painful. If he drills a 51-yarder, at least he earned it.

Totally agree. How in the hell does he not know he can't call back to back timeouts like that!
I don't know, would have much rather lost by a blow out than like that. I mean come on, man up get a first down and the game is over.
F the Bills and there skelator looking excuse for a coach.

[Bossanova]

I was watching this game slip away as I was also watching my beloved Eagles throw forty two interceptions while not managing the clock well again.

Two worst coaches in the League......... Joe Gibbs and Andy Reid

[Dirtybird12]

I gotta weird feeling Joes double time out was on purpose so he could shoulder the blame and lift it from the players since they've been through alot.

Or the old bat is losing his mind. But I know the kind of guy Joe Gibbs is. Everyone in DC who is a fan does.
Is it that far fetched?

Joes sittin' there thinking - ok he just made the 51 yrd field goal but it doesnt count.
He'll probably nail it again and the players will be crushed.
If I call a bonehead play - I can take the blame and the players can be upset with me instead of themselves.

[PapaBear]

I'm so happy I fell asleep at half time. BTW... I really liked what James Brown said before the game. It may not have been, but it seemed like it was directed at Michael Wilbon.

[BoondockSaint]

I'm so happy I fell asleep at half time. BTW... I really liked what James Brown said before the game. It may not have been, but it seemed like it was directed at Michael Wilbon.

What did he say?

[PapaBear]

I can't remember exactly. It was mostly about how people had piled on him before anyone knew what happened. He kept mentioning people who said "the weren't surprised". He said something about him becoming mature for the past year and half, and that people who have been mature for much longer than that could have shown more tact.

[GregFromBuffalo]

I was caught up in the emotion of the game..obviously I was still rooting for the Bills to win..but do the Redskins jump around and dance after every first down, and every tackle all the time? Or was it just this game..It would have been a great story for the Skins to be able to win one for a fallen teammate...But by the fourth quarter their shit got old...just go back to the fucking huddle already...Trent Edwards fumbled the snap and the Bills still recovered...But Marcus Washington dancing around like a maniac was embarassing...Just show a little class...Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Thurman Thomas would just toss the ball to the ref after a TD...act like you've been there before....I sound like my fucking father now...lol...The players should just maybe focus more on winning, instead of trying to draw more attention to themselves....I never thought I'd say this, but Blowhard may be right on the mark....but what the hell do I know.:wink:

[PapaBear]

I was caught up in the emotion of the game..obviously I was still rooting for the Bills to win..but do the Redskins jump around and dance after every first down, and every tackle all the time? Or was it just this game..It would have been a great story for the Skins to be able to win one for a fallen teammate...But by the fourth quarter their shit got old...just go back to the fucking huddle already...Trent Edwards fumbled the snap and the Bills still recovered...But Marcus Washington dancing around like a maniac was embarassing...Just show a little class...Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Thurman Thomas would just toss the ball to the ref after a TD...act like you've been there before....I sound like my fucking father now...lol...The players should just maybe focus more on winning, instead of trying to draw more attention to themselves....I never thought I'd say this, but Blowhard may be right on the mark....but what the hell do I know.:wink:
It was just this game. Keep in mind, it's been decades, since a player died mid-season. It's new territory.

[MM2]

I was caught up in the emotion of the game..obviously I was still rooting for the Bills to win..but do the Redskins jump around and dance after every first down, and every tackle all the time? Or was it just this game..It would have been a great story for the Skins to be able to win one for a fallen teammate...But by the fourth quarter their shit got old...just go back to the fucking huddle already...Trent Edwards fumbled the snap and the Bills still recovered...But Marcus Washington dancing around like a maniac was embarassing...Just show a little class...Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Thurman Thomas would just toss the ball to the ref after a TD...act like you've been there before....I sound like my fucking father now...lol...The players should just maybe focus more on winning, instead of trying to draw more attention to themselves....I never thought I'd say this, but Blowhard may be right on the mark....but what the hell do I know.:wink:

Marcus Washington is that type of player. He does his little dance after every tackle. He does get carried away, but he's a player that plays off of emotion and he needs that fire. I don't think its something he is doing on purpose to draw attention, I think its more second nature. But I can see your point, but its not going to change.

[Dirtybird12]

Fred Smoot stepped up and played like Taylor. He was wreckless and everywhere.
Got beat a few times, but he was jacked all game.

The service will be aired on national tv today at 11am


Regarding the Skins defense taking the field with only 10 players on the first play to honor Taylor - Gibbs sounded pissed off at Greg Williams. Saying something to the effect of " I didnt know anything about that. I think it's best Greg & I talk behind closed doors before really making a comment"

Also alot of people were chanting "joe must go" after the game.

Williams will be head coach soon

[Dirtybird12]

not the best quality - but you get the pic. :glurps:


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[nate1000]

F the Bills and there skelator looking excuse for a coach.

:lol: Bwaaaa-haaaa-haaaa-haaaa! :lol: You let a rookie quarterback drive into field goal range with 56 seconds left and no time outs. Your coach may be an idiot, but your D sucks too.

What an embarrassing game.

[Fezticle98]

:lol: Bwaaaa-haaaa-haaaa-haaaa! :lol: You let a rookie quarterback drive into field goal range with 56 seconds left and no time outs. Your coach may be an idiot, but your D sucks too.

What an embarrassing game.

Joe Gibbs may have lost it, but at least he has 3 Super Bowl rings. I guarantee Dick Jauron, Trent Edwards, and Jim Kelly combined will have zero for their careers.

Your franchise and city suck, dick.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9766/jimkellyzb4.jpg

[PhilDeez]

Joe Gibbs may have lost it, but at least he has 3 Super Bowl rings. I guarantee Dick Jauron, Trent Edwards, and Jim Kelly combined will have zero for their careers.

Your franchise and city suck, dick.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9766/jimkellyzb4.jpg

Greatest post ever!

[Earlshog]

Joe Gibbs may have lost it, but at least he has 3 Super Bowl rings. I guarantee Dick Jauron, Trent Edwards, and Jim Kelly combined will have zero for their careers.

Your franchise and city suck, dick.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9766/jimkellyzb4.jpg


number 567...

http://www.clevelandleader.com/files/googoo_dolls.gif

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Bills fan should know their place, 2 words Scott Norwood with 2 ts

:king:

[PhilDeez]

Why is Campbell out of the game? Missed the first half...

[cougarjake13]

Why is Campbell out of the game? Missed the first half...

broke ankle

carted off the field

[PapaBear]

broke ankle

carted off the field
Shit. Please tell me you're joking. I just got home.

[TheMojoPin]

Thank you, Redskins. I was worried that Gibbs' old man crappiness would give the Bears another win and a push for a worse draft pick.

[reformed]

Back in the playoff picture. Run the table, sweep Romo's leg in number 16 (an enemy deserves no mercy), and ruin the fairy tale in the Super Bowl. MVP of the upset, Don Shula on the Tonya Harding style hit on T. Brady. Gibbs thanks God six times in the post game lovefest. God tires of the attention and smites him. Portis mumbles something insane. Five people are shot. Pacman bites again. Snyder sells God on season tickets behind a pole. Tiki B. looks marvelous. I eat to many wings, drink too much wine, offend too many guests and miss it all. God bless Tivo.

[TheMojoPin]

Back in the playoff picture. Run the table, sweep Romo's leg in number 16 (an enemy deserves no mercy), and ruin the fairy tale in the Super Bowl. MVP of the upset, Don Shula on the Tonya Harding style hit on T. Brady. Gibbs thanks God six times in the post game lovefest. God tires of the attention and smites him. Portis mumbles something insane. Five people are shot. Pacman bites again. Snyder sells God on season tickets behind a pole. Tiki B. looks marvelous. I eat to many wings, drink too much wine, offend too many guests and miss it all. God bless Tivo.

Greatest football season evar. Sign me up.

[cougarjake13]

Back in the playoff picture. .

definitely in the picture but they'd have to jump the vikes and cards as well as hold off the saints, eagles,and panthers ( all 5-7) to do it

skins currently 6-7


sunday

vikes (6-6) at 49ers prob a vikes win ... vikes 7-6

cards(6-6) at seattle prob a cards loss ... cards 6-7

saints (5-7) at falcons prob a saints win ...saitns 6-7

eagles (5-7) vs giants who knows

panthers (5-7) at jax prob a loss ... panthers 5-8

[Knowledged_one]

well accept that the redskins beat the cardinals so they dont need to jump them redskins have tie breaker same thing with the Lions

[cougarjake13]

well accept that the redskins beat the cardinals so they dont need to jump them redskins have tie breaker same thing with the Lions

ok


remaining schedules

Redskins 6-7

Sun 12/16 at NY Giants 8:15 pm
Sun 12/23 at Minnesota 1:00 pm
Sun 12/30 Dallas 1:00 pm

if they wanna be in the playoff picture they have to beat 3 playoff teams to have hope




vikings 6-6

Sun 12/9 at San Francisco 4:05 pm
Mon 12/17 Chicago 8:30 pm
Sun 12/23 Washington 1:00 pm
Sun 12/30 at Denver 4:15 pm



Cardinals 6-6

Sun 12/9 at Seattle 4:05 pm
Sun 12/16 at New Orleans 1:00 pm
Sun 12/23 Atlanta 4:05 pm
Sun 12/30 St. Louis 4:15 pm



Saints 5-7

Mon 12/10 at Atlanta 8:30 pm
Sun 12/16 Arizona 1:00 pm
Sun 12/23 Philadelphia 1:00 pm
Sun 12/30 at Chicago 1:00 pm


Panthers 5-7

Sun 12/9 at Jacksonville 1:00 pm
Sun 12/16 Seattle 1:00 pm
Sat 12/22 Dallas 8:15 pm
Sun 12/30 at Tampa Bay 1:00 pm


Eagles 5-7

Sun 12/9 NY Giants 1:00 pm
Sun 12/16 at Dallas 4:15 pm
Sun 12/23 at New Orleans 1:00 pm
Sun 12/30 Buffalo 1:00 pm


Lions 6-6

Sun 12/9 Dallas 1:00 pm
Sun 12/16 at San Diego 4:15 pm
Sun 12/23 Kansas City 1:00 pm
Sun 12/30 at Green Bay 1:00 pm




now looking at the remaining schedules, i believe you eliminate the lions, eagles, and panthers ... their schedules is too tough


vikings, cardinals, and saints have the best chance based on their remaning games

[Dirtybird12]

Big week in DC. Skins & Cowboys get it on Sunday at Fez Ex Field at 4:15.

Who do ya like? I dont think it matters who the c-girls start. Skins will win big.


If Jason Campbell is OK to play, do you play him in the playoffs? or do you let the guy with talent and brains play? Todd Collins?

[Dougie Brootal]

i hate football. that being said, dallas will win cuz the skins lose more than the brooklyn brawler.

[Knowledged_one]

Oh i will be there on Sunday, driving in from Ohio

Skins in the playoffs

[RAAMONE]

i'm gonna have to take dallas...even if T.O. doesnt play

oh just wondering...is Terry Glenn back?

also depends if Jessica shows up...ha

[PhilDeez]

Agree, Skins will win regardless. Too much to play for, as Dallas has nothing to gain.
I would stick with Collins until he totally shits the bed.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

the skins seem like a team who wins the hard games and loses the easy games

making them the favorite is not the best thing that can be done

but no TO and Romo for a drop if any, the skins would have suck balls to lose this one

[Snoogans]

this is gonna start to get ugly if we keep making threads for individual games now. Plus the awful redskins already have a thread. Cowboys suck too. I hope the stadium catches fire and the game is cancelled

[Dirtybird12]

ya but i have tickets to the game.

i dont wanna burn to death surrounded by drunk rednecks. ( no offense skins nation)

get it? no offense?

fuck it:wallbash: im an idiot

[Snoogans]

ya but i have tickets to the game.

i dont wanna burn to death surrounded by drunk rednecks. ( no offense skins nation)

get it? no offense?

fuck it:wallbash: im an idiot

.I didnt wanna get greedy so I meant before the game even begins

[cougarjake13]

id hve to say you stick with collins, capbell hasnt plyed in a few weeks, may be rusty, and collins is moving he offnse nicely

[Knowledged_one]

id hve to say you stick with collins, capbell hasnt plyed in a few weeks, may be rusty, and collins is moving he offnse nicely

Holy jesus man, how hammered were you

[cougarjake13]

Holy jesus man, how hammered were you

i was pretty toasty

[Fezticle98]

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[MM2]

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Playoffs is correct! I might be a homer but I think that the Skins have a legit shot at making it to the NFC Championship game. I think they go into Seattle and win, and then we get Dallas without TO maybe? Or at least a less then 100% TO, and that is a very winnable game. Then its to Green Bay most likely and that is a team that we should have beaten if we could have held onto the damn football.

Of course the Skins could go into Seattle and lay an egg, but its not out of the realm of possiblity that they could get to the Super Bowl.

[mendyweiss]

Joe Gibbs resigns
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7648730?MSNHPHMA

[spoon]

Taylor told him to resign through his medium Cris Collingsworth.

[Knowledged_one]

Taylor told him to resign through his medium Cris Collingsworth.

What are you an idiot there is no g in Collinsworth's name :wink:

[spoon]

What are you an idiot there is no g in Collinsworth's name :wink:

He added it to represent/honor his psychic relationship with Taylor G!

[Knowledged_one]

He added it to represent/honor his psychic relationship with Taylor G!

ahhh how could i question the wise spoonie g

[spoon]

And there is surely more G in Chris compared to Bryant Gumbel.

[spoon]

ahhh how could i question the wise spoonie g

Yah, don't make me post dead puppies......err sleeping puppies.

[Knowledged_one]

And there is surely more G in Chris compared to Bryant Gumbel.

Well this guy agrees with you about Bryant Mumble

http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/intel/07/10/29_hank_lgl.jpg

So it must be true

[PapaBear]

Redskins probably to name Fassel, report says (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22788136/)


:wallbash::help::banning::annoyed::furious::flush: :thumbdown:

[cougarjake13]

Redskins probably to name Fassel, report says (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22788136/)


:wallbash::help::banning::annoyed::furious::flush: :thumbdown:

so how do you skins fans feel about fassel ???

[Knowledged_one]

Dont jump the gun reportedly it may take a few more weeks for the skins to name their coach

My older brother has said that if they hire Fassel he wont renew his season tickets

[Judge Smails]

Dont jump the gun reportedly it may take a few more weeks for the skins to name their coach


Maybe, but there's already a firejimfassel.com (http://firejimfassel.com/). You Redskin fans don't waste any time, do you?

[Knowledged_one]

What can i say, when we hate we do it all the way balls to the wall

[cougarjake13]

What can i say, when we hate we do it all the way balls to the wall

thats funny shit


so if he doesnt get hired will the change the name of the site to the new coach ???

[Knowledged_one]

nah it will just go back to firedansnyder.com

i believe there is also now a firedansnyderandjimfassel.com as well

[Dirtybird12]

this just in -

Greg Williams - FIRED

Al Saunders - FIRED

:wallbash:

[Dirtybird12]

STORY HERE (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hnA7JSzi54qUiXIHW1zFauq72XxQD8UDOG300)

[Fezticle98]

Wow. Snyder must love playing the villain.

If I was capable of giving up on the Redskins, I would have by now.

[Knowledged_one]

They have hired Jim Zorn to be O-Coordinator and promoted Greg Blatche to head the defense which gives the D good continuity

[PapaBear]

Dan Snyder just fired the entire team and hired the Dolphins. This new team will be headed by Stewart Spurrier... Steve's less talented brother.

[cougarjake13]

this just in -

Greg Williams - FIRED

Al Saunders - FIRED

:wallbash:

dan snyder just makes no sense

[A.J.]

Snyder is turning into the Peter Angelos of the NFL: except that he continues to make money hand over fist.

You Skins fans should be focusing your wrath at getting that bug-eyed, lickspittle Vinny Cerrato fired.

[Knowledged_one]

Dan Snyder is nothing like Peter Angelos

the redskins have been in the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years and have a good young nucleus in place. I liked Gregg Williams but he was a failure as a head coach before and was from all reports a prick

Greg Blatche gets hired as D Coord and will keep the contiinuity

Not to mention Snyder spends money every year to make this team better and while all news reports focus on the bad signins the redskins have had (and there are a few) he has also made great signings over the last few years like Marcus Washington, Cornelius Griffin, Shawn Springs, Antwaan Randle El, Casey Rabach, and they have made good trades to get Santana Moss and Pete Kendall.

The media in my opinion gives Snyder a hard time out of jealousy the guy is younger then most of these sports people and is a billionaire owner of a largely succesful sports franchise. If you look at the history since Snyder has taken over he has gotten much much better

Now Vinny Cerrato on the other hand he mus thave pics of Snyder doing a horse while getting f'ed with a strap on by anna Nicole Smith

[PapaBear]

the redskins have been in the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years and have a good young nucleus in place.
They almost always have a good nucleus in place. Then Snyder brings in a new coach every couple of years and the whole team gets shook up. They explain away their bad record by calling it a "building year". They finally start to look decent, then Snyder gets a new coach again. I'm sick of this shit cycle.

[cougarjake13]

They almost always have a good nucleus in place. Then Snyder brings in a new coach every couple of years and the whole team gets shook up. They explain away their bad record by calling it a "building year". They finally start to look decent, then Snyder gets a new coach again. I'm sick of this shit cycle.

ahh yes but this time you cant blame snyder

gibbs quit on him

[PapaBear]

ahh yes but this time you cant blame snyder

gibbs quit on him
But when he quit, the expectation was that Williams would take over and the current game plan would continue to grow as it is.

[Kevin]

But when he quit, the expectation was that Williams would take over and the current game plan would continue to grow as it is.

I do not know i you heard this Papa.. I was listenin to Joe and Evan (WFAN NY talk show) And they said that during his interview, he bad mouthed Gibbs... That too me looks like the dumbest thing ever done.. Williams denies it but there has to be some truth to it.. I mean it was basically a formality that Williams was going to be the head coach.. And its not like he did a bad job with the D... If Spagnoula gets your job, i would not mind having williams as our D coord.. Btw.. Have they interviewed a minority coach yet?

[PapaBear]

They interviewed Singletary, and I think one other minority.

[Knowledged_one]

They interviewed Singletary, and I think one other minority.

Wrong they interviewed Ron Meeks and are actually going to interview him again

And they need to get rid of the Rooney rule, it was great when it first started but now there is no bias on who gets hired and to me its more of a slap in the face of black coaches who get a token interview or everyone interviews Dennis Green, it has now set football back on this because if you really want to hire someone and everyone knows it you still have to trot out a black interview

And i believe that Williams was granted permission by the redskins to interview for the Rams D Coord position

And skins fans should feel good about the schedulenext year

Giants(x2), Eagles(x2), Cowboys(x2), at Baltimore, at Cincinatti, cleaveland at home, Pittsburgh at home, at Seattle, at Arizona, 49ers at home, Rams at home, then they play Detroit at home i believe and at Carolina (those last two may be flip flopped)

So with all the turnover they should have a good shot at the playoffs again next year

[Dirtybird12]

The former Washington Redskins assistant agreed Tuesday to become the Jacksonville Jaguars defensive coordinator and assistant head coach, replacing Mike Smith as defensive coordinator and Dave Campo as assistant head coach. Williams interviewed with the Cowboys last week for a job on the Dallas staff.

[cougarjake13]

The former Washington Redskins assistant agreed Tuesday to become the Jacksonville Jaguars defensive coordinator and assistant head coach, replacing Mike Smith as defensive coordinator and Dave Campo as assistant head coach. Williams interviewed with the Cowboys last week for a job on the Dallas staff.

yeh i thought i saw that williams signed with the jags a few days ago

[Kevin]

Zorn?? Seriously? (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3238678)


Sooo.. You did not think he was good enough to be your off coord last year, and you give Al Saunders a ton.. But now he is good enough for HC??

Leads to believe Spags turned them down but was being gentleman about it..

[cougarjake13]

Zorn?? Seriously? (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3238678)


Sooo.. You did not think he was good enough to be your off coord last year, and you give Al Saunders a ton.. But now he is good enough for HC??

Leads to believe Spags turned them down but was being gentleman about it..


im just glad we didnt lose spags

[Kevin]

And skins fans should feel good about the schedulenext year

Giants(x2), Eagles(x2), Cowboys(x2), at Baltimore, at Cincinatti, cleaveland at home, Pittsburgh at home, at Seattle, at Arizona, 49ers at home, Rams at home, then they play Detroit at home i believe and at Carolina (those last two may be flip flopped)

So with all the turnover they should have a good shot at the playoffs again next year

With the NFC east.. No schedual is a good one.. Giants.. I know its crazy to say that a SB champ will be even better next year, but they will. Cowboys are good.. Philly finished the year playing as good as any team in the NFL.. This is by far the best div in football.. And as we know with the NFL, you never know what team is going to be good or great.. You can't judge a schedual on sept let alone feb..

[cougarjake13]

With the NFC east.. No schedual is a good one.. Giants.. I know its crazy to say that a SB champ will be even better next year, but they will. Cowboys are good.. Philly finished the year playing as good as any team in the NFL.. This is by far the best div in football.. And as we know with the NFL, you never know what team is going to be good or great.. You can't judge a schedual on sept let alone feb..

exactly... last year balt was shit, 2 yrs ago they were 13-3

[Fezticle98]

I was at the gym when I saw the news flash on ESPN2. I couldn't keep from letting a "what the fuck?" fly.

The good news is, I expect to be promoted to president of my company next week. I've been there almost 3 months, so the big promotion is well overdue.

[Kevin]

I was at the gym when I saw the news flash on ESPN2. I couldn't keep from letting a "what the fuck?" fly.

The good news is, I expect to be promoted to president of my company next week. I've been there almost 3 months, so the big promotion is well overdue.

3 MONTHS?? You PANSY! Real men get promoted to top spots in A WEEK!!!!!

[A.J.]

I think Lil' Danny ought to start paying attention to Sally Jenkins' columns and not the yes-men he surrounds himself with.

Snyder's Power Play (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/25/AR2008012503432.html)

The Wrong Job for the Man (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/06/AR2008020604290.html)