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banditorico
08-27-2007, 09:27 AM
Is there some kind of regulation for planes flying over homes? I don't live in an airline flight path nor do I regularly hear/see planes flying overhead. Recently on several occasions I've heard planes flying over my house and it sounds like they're flying very low. The sounds of the engines are loud enough to rattle the house.

cupcakelove
08-27-2007, 09:55 AM
I used to live near Dulles airport, and it seemed that once or twice a year the planes would all of a sudden start flying a lot lower than usual for a month or so.

led37zep
08-27-2007, 10:31 AM
I'd check with your local airport and see if they've changed the flight path. Are we talking commercial planes or personal?

AJDELAWARE
08-27-2007, 10:37 AM
There out to get you Henry, they know you are selling drugs and involved with the mob. Those planes are going to follow you around allll day Hendry.

AJDELAWARE
08-27-2007, 10:38 AM
I wonder if this has anything to do with that one guys wife selling a briefcase and walkie talkies to a man of terroristic decent.

Ritalin
08-27-2007, 10:49 AM
Is there some kind of regulation for planes flying over homes? I don't live in an airline flight path nor do I regularly hear/see planes flying overhead. Recently on several occasions I've heard planes flying over my house and it sounds like they're flying very low. The sounds of the engines are loud enough to rattle the house.

If you live in lower Fairfield County, that could be planes diverted from their regular flight plans to LaGuardia by the US Open.

David Dinkens signed a horrible agreement with the US Open people that guaranteed that planes wouldn't fly over the stadium during the tournament. Good thinking.

Fat_Sunny
08-27-2007, 11:14 AM
I wonder if this has anything to do with that one guys wife selling a briefcase and walkie talkies to a man of terroristic decent.

Hee Hee..!

F_S Lives Out In The Middle Of Nowhere, And Yet There Have Been A Surprising Number Of Low-Flying Helicopters Out Here The Last Few Years. Looking For Pot Growers? Terrorists? F_S Isn't Sure What They Are Up To!

donnie_darko
08-27-2007, 07:58 PM
i live in the middle of nowhere N.C. i think I'm in a training route or something for the military cause almost everyday 2 fighters fly by around noon.

Somedays they are pretty high, but i can remember a few occasions i'm pretty sure i could've hit them with a rock.

fuckers.

PapaBear
08-27-2007, 08:11 PM
Back in the late 80's and early 90's, we used to have C 130's out of Martinsburg, WV flying way too low. They were flying lower than regulations allowed, but no one did anything about it. You could actually see the pilot's faces sometimes.

That all stopped after October 7th, 1992 when a C130 from the 167th Tactical Airlift Squadron hit some power lines, took the second story off a house, then crashed int a hill, killing all aboard. The guy in the house was sitting in his kitchen having breakfast. He didn't know what happened. He just heard a loud boom, then ran right out the kitchen door. When he turned around, the whole house was engulfed in flames.

scottinnj
08-27-2007, 08:32 PM
We live near the A.C. International Airport and the property is also home to the 177th Fighter Interceptor Group, NJANG, "The Jersey Devils"


We have a motto down here: Jet noise = the sound of Freedom.

When the airlines were grounded after 9/11, the F-16s from our base did (and always have) East Coast patrols. They were the only ones in the air, and took advantage of the open space to be able to move from one area to another more quickly. Frequently they did low passes over my house, and we would look up from the backyard and quietly thank God they were there.

scottinnj
08-27-2007, 08:34 PM
There out to get you Henry, they know you are selling drugs and involved with the mob. Those planes are going to follow you around allll day Hendry.



I always love a Goodfellas reference. Message board Gold!

scottinnj
08-27-2007, 08:35 PM
Hee Hee..!

F_S Lives Out In The Middle Of Nowhere, And Yet There Have Been A Surprising Number Of Low-Flying Helicopters Out Here The Last Few Years. Looking For Pot Growers? Terrorists? F_S Isn't Sure What They Are Up To!


Are they black and silent? I've got a shortwave radio with your name on it Fat!

Wacka Wacka!

Judge Smails
08-27-2007, 08:36 PM
I have Newark Airport about twenty miles to the north of me and McGuire Air Force Base and Fort Dix about twenty miles south of me. Some days the planes flying into Newark fly right over my house so low that I can count the windows. I've also had groups of helicopter gunships fly over quite low. But these instances are mere nuissances. I can deal with the noise if I'm outside and you can hardly hear a thing if I'm inside

The bigger problem to me is the Johnson and Johnson helicopter that takes off and lands from their corporate headquarters in New Brunswick which is the next town over. I was sitting inside one day when the whole house started shaking and rattling. I swear I thought we were having an earthquake. It shook so much that it knocked a window valance off of the wall, which in turn knocked over and broke a Lenox vase which had been a wedding gift. I considered calling and complaining, but how are you going to prove a thing like that? And really what good would it do anyway?

A.J.
08-27-2007, 11:05 PM
I lived in the flight path of Reagan National, Dulles and now Doha International airport. There are noise reduction levels for residential areas within certain times -- usually at night and on weekends.

Crispy123
08-28-2007, 04:11 AM
There are definitely regulations for flying in all types of airspace. Pilots are allowed to use judgement in the air and can deviate from the rules if they need to.

Depending on what type of airspace you live in planes should be at least 100 feet higher than any house or building. Depending on the type of plane this will still rattle some walls. If you think they are too low or it is too disruptive call the airport manager or ATC tower at the airport these planes fly into or out of. They do have the technology to track this but usually only use it on individual planes if there is an accident or complaint.

Of course there are a number of people who move in to a house right next to an airport and call and bitch just because there are planes flying around. Sometimes there are also reckless pilots and they need to be identified.

AJDELAWARE
08-28-2007, 04:20 AM
I think the best plan of defense here is to take 15 rolls of duct tape, and spell out "FLY MORE HIGHER AND NOT AS LOUDER" on your roof, theyll get the hint. Oh yes. They shall get the hint.

Chigworthy
08-28-2007, 06:42 AM
Here in Sonoma county wine country, where the affluence is always accompanied by effluent, the richies just have a wonderful time tooling around in their little nosiy planes, for no other reason than to see the peasants from a higher angle. Apparently, all of those strict flying regulations that were imposed after 9/11 don't apply when you are part of the illegal immigrant slave labor empire.

banditorico
08-28-2007, 06:52 AM
There are definitely regulations for flying in all types of airspace. Pilots are allowed to use judgement in the air and can deviate from the rules if they need to.

Depending on what type of airspace you live in planes should be at least 100 feet higher than any house or building. Depending on the type of plane this will still rattle some walls. If you think they are too low or it is too disruptive call the airport manager or ATC tower at the airport these planes fly into or out of. They do have the technology to track this but usually only use it on individual planes if there is an accident or complaint.

Of course there are a number of people who move in to a house right next to an airport and call and bitch just because there are planes flying around. Sometimes there are also reckless pilots and they need to be identified.

Perfect, thanks CPW3. I don't live close to the airport so it was unusual to hear a low flying plane more than once in the past week.

Snoogans
08-28-2007, 07:26 AM
it also sometimes happens where if they are making planes circle cause of delays, if they have enough planes waiting, they will circle some in other spots so it isnt as cluttered.

ralphbxny
08-28-2007, 12:41 PM
I grew up in the South East Bronx which is basically the landing strip for Laguardia! I thought having planes rattle your windows was normal till I was about 9 or 10 years old.

SatCam
08-28-2007, 12:47 PM
I remember in elementary school while outside waiting for school to start we would watch the same concords land at jfk every few mornings like clockwork

PilotJeff
08-28-2007, 01:30 PM
There are definitely regulations for flying in all types of airspace. Pilots are allowed to use judgment in the air and can deviate from the rules if they need to....

Depending on what type of airspace you live in planes should be at least 100 feet higher than any house or building.

This is true. We can deviate all we want, but only in an emergency situation. And it better be a really good reason for an emergency. If we deviate when its not an emergency we risk losing our license and our jobs.

Under the FAR's (Federal Aviation Regulations) Part 91 (the part the regulates private and pleasure flying) says in congested areas (such as a populated city or town) you must fly no lower than 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle. In unpopulated areas, such as rural farm land, you can fly as low as 500 feet above the highest obstacle. It does say however that you may break this (obviously) during landing. Unless you live within 1/2 a mile from the end of the runway, you should not have a plane flying less than 500 or 1000 feet from your house.

When I'm at work, we operate under Part 121 (Commercial Air Carriers), we must still abide by the above mentioned rules, and then some. We operate on a flight plan every flight, that is followed from takeoff to landing by air traffic controllers. The FAA has "built" departure and arrival paths into each specific airport, and depending on certain variables such as wind or runway construction, or something as simple as what direction you are coming from, we will use each individual one.

Hope that helps. Probably about as clear as mud. So long as you don't develop NIMBY syndrome, your ok :smile:

DolaMight
08-28-2007, 04:44 PM
That's all well and good, but first things first. Are there any regulations about Homes flying over planes?

http://www.mexicanpictures.com/headingeast/images/mobileHome.jpg

http://www.cimms.ou.edu/~doswell/Conference_papers/SELS96/Flying_house.JPG

Crispy123
08-29-2007, 03:25 AM
Unless you live within 1/2 a mile from the end of the runway, you should not have a plane flying less than 500 or 1000 feet from your house.


I was missing a zero in my post. Thanks Pilot Jeff.

JackStraw
08-29-2007, 05:27 AM
I think the best plan of defense here is to take 15 rolls of duct tape, and spell out "FLY MORE HIGHER AND NOT AS LOUDER" on your roof, theyll get the hint. Oh yes. They shall get the hint.

I was wondering if that worked...

AJDELAWARE
08-29-2007, 06:17 AM
I was wondering if that worked...

If done with duct tape, it has to work. Duct tape causes a glitch in the matrix.

PilotJeff
08-29-2007, 10:08 AM
I was missing a zero in my post. Thanks Pilot Jeff.

No problem. After I posted it, I figured thats what you meant. D'oh!

Judge Smails
09-08-2007, 08:18 AM
Holy Shit! I was just outside, tending to my backyard, when I heard an incredibly loud noise. I looked up and a small plane flew directly over my house pulling an advertising banner for Geico with the caveman on it. The fucker was practically at treetop level. I'm seriously wondering whether he was having engine problems. I'm going to check the news today to see if any planes have gone down in the area.

FUNKMAN
09-08-2007, 08:21 AM
it's not the plane crashing into my house that worries me. it's all them motherfucking snakes that are gonna get loose



sorry i saw that stupid movie for the first time a few days ago


i would assume it's all legal unless some of the smaller planes are taking an illegal risk

WRESTLINGFAN
09-08-2007, 08:28 AM
This has been a big issue for people living in Rockland County. They want to re route the flight paths of planes flying into Newark

http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070905/NEWS01/709050423