2007-2008 College Football Season

[El Mudo]

First Polls out today (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2959891)


First of all, while I understand they need to create matchups to sell on TV, having the polls come out in preseason just doesn't make sense for many reasons. And secondly, I firmly believe the previous year's national champ should ALWAYS start out at number 1, no matter what happens to their program in the offseason


I like my Terps this year...I think we have some really good pieces, but we have a lot of questions at QB (Josh Portis is the best athlete but doesn't know the system, Jordan Steffy knows the system but isn't very good, and Chris Turner is the wild card). I like our depth at RB though...maybe we can just option people to death, but the line still has some big question marks too (lost Gaither and 2 or 3 others for various purposes).

Schedule's not as easy as last year's was either


September 1 Villanova
September 8 at Florida International
September 13 West Virginia
September 22 at Wake Forest
September 29 at Rutgers
October 6 Georgia Tech
October 20 Virginia
October 27 Clemson
November 3 at North Carolina
November 10 Boston College
November 17 at Florida State
November 24 at North Carolina State


Its not going to be easy, but I can see at least 4 wins on there (Nova, FIU, NCST, NC) meaning we'll only have to pick up two the rest of the way...maybe they'll go on a roll like last year, but that September schedule is HELL (trips to Rutgers and Wake along with West Virginia)


Let's play some football!


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[MHasegawa]

they let ACC teams play football??? Thats cute...

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[PhishHead]

they let ACC teams play football??? Thats cute...

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this post made me spit out my water. :lol:

[Bama]

Here is a website that has the times and stations for all the games.
Click here (http://www.lsufootball.net/tvschedule.htm)

[El Mudo]

this post made me spit out my water. :lol:



The thing is, I completely agree


The SEC is the best football conference every single year...period.

Just like the ACC is the best basketball conference every single year

[PhishHead]

You got to love it when every single one of your teams games are on HD :) Thank god for a national tv contract :)

[PhishHead]

The thing is, I completely agree


The SEC is the best football conference every single year...period.

Just like the ACC is the best basketball conference every single year

I don't think the ACC is the best anymore, it use to be way above everyone but almost every conference has picked up the slack. Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10 has been coming on strong the past few years.

If i had to pick a conference I would not want to play its the Big East. Between Gtwon, Pitt, Nova, Louisville, ND, Marquette, WVU, Uconn and Rutgers(only at the RAC).

I am a huge ACC supporter but I think just the past few years the conference has not been as good.

[El Mudo]

I don't think the ACC is the best anymore, it use to be way above everyone but almost every conference has picked up the slack. Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10 has been coming on strong the past few years.

If i had to pick a conference I would not want to play its the Big East. Between Gtwon, Pitt, Nova, Louisville, ND, Marquette, WVU, Uconn and Rutgers(only at the RAC).

I am a huge ACC supporter but I think just the past few years the conference has not been as good.


Doesn't matter....overall strength of programs + environments? There's no tougher places to play in the nation than Maryland, NC, Duke, Wake, and NC State

[weekapaugjz]

let's go penn state!

http://www.simplyawesome.com/images/sports/penn-state-60x50-throw-blan.jpg

big ten football all the way.

i would also say i like to root for UB (university at buffalo) but when they are ranked at 119 out of 119, its tough to do so. i think local high school teams could beat them.

[weekapaugjz]

sorry phishy, but FUCK NOTRE DAME!!!

[PhishHead]

sorry phishy, but FUCK NOTRE DAME!!!

hater

[weekapaugjz]

hater

we'll see on sept 8th when the irish go to happy valley.

[cougarjake13]

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[sailor]

espn.com's going heavy into college football today. shocked there's no thread already. here are some bowl projections (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview07/news/story?id=2971673) to get things started. obviously, it's waaaay too early for these to mean anything, but they're always fun.

[led37zep]

Oregon...Oregon...still looking for Oregon on this list. Hmmm, thats odd, don't seem them? Must be a mistake.




sigh

[Fezticle98]

Can't wait to watch my Noles take on Clemson on Monday, September 3. Tough game to start out the season, but a good test. Waiting those two extra days will be torture.

Finally, Idiot Jeff Bowden is out after 6 miserable years as O-coordinator. The Jimbo Fisher era begins. I'm rooting for Xavier Lee to win the QB job. He's got amazing talent and has not been given a fair shot with the situations they've put him in. Antone Smith should have a breakout season. New O-line coach can't help but improve that underachieving group.

This season will demonstrate just how bad the coaching at FSU has been over the past 6 years. No Chris Rix, no Jeff Bowden, no excuses!

Skipping over 4 time zones, it will be into November before Hawaii is tested. I hope that they can be this year's Boise St. Their schedule is atrocious, thanks to AD Herman Frazier as well as the pussies at Mich St. They could go undefeated, but their schedule strength will be in the 110's, making it easy to leave them out of the BCS. Brennan may throw 65 TD's.

[ChrisTheCop]

espn.com's going heavy into college football today. shocked there's no thread already. here are some bowl projections (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview07/news/story?id=2971673) to get things started. obviously, it's waaaay too early for these to mean anything, but they're always fun.

in bed.

[Bama]

espn.com's going heavy into college football today. shocked there's no thread already. here are some bowl projections (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview07/news/story?id=2971673) to get things started. obviously, it's waaaay too early for these to mean anything, but they're always fun.

There is a college football thread. It's right here (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62293)

[sailor]

There is a college football thread. It's right here (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62293)

well, that's what mudo gets for not putting ncaa in the title. :( i mean do we have "pro-baseball" threads? merge in 3...2...1...

[El Mudo]

No one calls college football "NCAA football"...its college football dammit!!!


Go Terps!!

:wink:

[El Mudo]

Yeesh...


Everyone on ESPN really likes Southern Cal...and Virginia Tech and Florida State


Thats what's known as "lack of research"

[sailor]

Yeesh...


Everyone on ESPN really likes Southern Cal...and Virginia Tech and Florida State


Thats what's known as "lack of research"

and west virginia. really looking forward to this year's game.

[sailor]

No one calls college football "NCAA football"...its college football dammit!!!


Go Terps!!

:wink:

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[Cleophus James]

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Will there be a better bowl game then Boise OU?

[IMSlacker]

This is the year that the Memphis Tigers are gonna shock the world! And that's a roast beef sandwich guarantee!

Nowwe'retalkin'sports! Woooosh!

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[led37zep]

You are all forgetting what matters the most.

GO DUCKS BABY!!!!!!
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[Freitag]

WVU's schedule:


09/01 W Michigan 3:30 PM
09/08 at Marshall 11:10 AM
09/13 at Maryland 7:30 PM
09/22 E Carolina 3:30 PM
09/28 at S Florida 8:00 PM
10/06 at Syracuse TBD
10/20 Miss St 12:00 PM
10/27 at Rutgers TBD
11/08 Louisville 7:30 PM
11/17 at Cincy TBD
11/24 UConn 12:00 PM
12/01 Pittsburgh TBD

It's essentially the same schedule they played last year. That stretch of RU - Louisville - Cincy will make or break the season.

[Freitag]

Rutgers:


08/30 Buffalo 7:00 PM
09/07 Navy 7:00 PM
09/15 Norfolk St 3:30 PM
09/29 Maryland TBD
10/06 Cincy TBD
10/13 at Syracuse TBD
10/18 S Florida 7:30 PM
10/27 W Virginia TBD
11/03 at UConn TBD
11/09 at Army 8:00 PM
11/17 Pittsburgh TBD
11/29 at Louisville 7:30 PM

Rutgers' schedule is actually easier than it was last year.

But man alive, that Louisville game to end the season... yeesh.

[PhishHead]

Rutgers:


08/30 Buffalo 7:00 PM
09/07 Navy 7:00 PM
09/15 Norfolk St 3:30 PM
09/29 Maryland TBD
10/06 Cincy TBD
10/13 at Syracuse TBD
10/18 S Florida 7:30 PM
10/27 W Virginia TBD
11/03 at UConn TBD
11/09 at Army 8:00 PM
11/17 Pittsburgh TBD
11/29 at Louisville 7:30 PM

Rutgers' schedule is actually easier than it was last year.

But man alive, that Louisville game to end the season... yeesh.

ouch South Florida and WVU back to back that hurts alot too.

[Bama]

All you guys need to join the college pickem.

click me (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62108)

[El Mudo]

Will there be a better bowl game then Boise OU?


There are every single year...it was a great game, but there are always one or two bowl games that are just incredible

[El Mudo]

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September 13th bro....i'm already fired up


I want Morgan Green to break a 75 yarder on the first play so people will finally shut up about him and Steve Slaton

[Tenbatsuzen]

There are every single year...it was a great game, but there are always one or two bowl games that are just incredible

Mudo, the last minutes of the 4Q and the OT is the stuff movies are made of. I've NEVER seen a high-level or BCS game that had that much action, emotion, and drama. I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you. Boise-OU will be the gold standard that all other great Bowl games that will be decided by.

[El Mudo]

ouch South Florida and WVU back to back that hurts alot too.



And dont forget a visit from a certain ACC team on Sept 29th :wink:


That game is HUGE for us on so many levels...we get a lot of players from New Jersey

[Tenbatsuzen]

September 13th bro....i'm already fired up


I want Morgan Green to break a 75 yarder on the first play so people will finally shut up about him and Steve Slaton

YOU SHUT YOUR DIRTY WHORE MOUTH

[El Mudo]

Mudo, the last minutes of the 4Q and the OT is the stuff movies are made of. I've NEVER seen a high-level or BCS game that had that much action, emotion, and drama. I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you. Boise-OU will be the gold standard that all other great Bowl games that will be decided by.




Vince Young begs to differ


http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/whyut/photos/images/young_vince_td.jpg

[El Mudo]

YOU SHUT YOUR DIRTY WHORE MOUTH



Morgan was AWESOME in the spring game before he hurt his shoulder...had almost a hundred yards on 9 or 10 carries...Its nothing major, so the platoon of him, Lance Ball, and Lattimore, plus some good stuff out of DaRell Scott makes us pretty potent on the ground.


Now if Josh Portis can just learn the playbook and hurry up and supplant Jordan Steffy...

[Tenbatsuzen]

Vince Young begs to differ


http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/whyut/photos/images/young_vince_td.jpg

That was one big play. The final minutes of OU-Boise had FOUR huge plays.

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[sailor]

September 13th bro....i'm already fired up


I want Morgan Green to break a 75 yarder on the first play so people will finally shut up about him and Steve Slaton

looking to see if there was an ncaa football thread already i saw the one you started last year...and your post was about wvu. made me happy they were playing this year. pre-season rankings always scare me, but folks are saying good stuff about wvu going into the year.

[El Mudo]

That was one big play. The final minutes of OU-Boise had FOUR huge plays.

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Youre kidding me right?? The ENTIRE GAME was a big play...Young had something close to 400 yards of offense BY HIMSELF..It was the most amazing performance ive ever seen from a college QB...EVER

[El Mudo]

looking to see if there was an ncaa football thread already i saw the one you started last year...and your post was about wvu. made me happy they were playing this year. pre-season rankings always scare me, but folks are saying good stuff about wvu going into the year.



Theyve got a pretty potent offense there between the Reggie Cleveland All Star backfield (Slaton and White) plus Noel DeVine is supposed to be really good too...their D is a question, but they play that weird 3 3 5 scheme, and they get up ahead so quickly a lot of times it doesn't matter


We are going to have our hands full with them, but I think we have a great chance to beat them if we can keep their offense off the field and not turn the ball over

[rustide]

13 Days till kick-off boys

[TheGameHHH]

my boys arent ranked, but thats not gonna stop me from buying into their hype. GO IRISH!!!!!!

[PhishHead]

my boys arent ranked, but thats not gonna stop me from buying into their hype. GO IRISH!!!!!!

THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!!

I heard sharpley is starting the first game not sure how i feel about that but whatever.

Armando Allen is going to surprise so many people and now that Zibby is back into football shape and away from boxing he is going to regain his sophomore form.

[El Mudo]

Two West Virginia starters charged with stealing computers.... (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2982682)


I only wish it was Slaton and White

[El Mudo]

Big ass college football live preview show on ESPN right.....started at 7...over 4 hours of coverage...



Love the fact that (a) Larry Coker looks like a corpse and (b) Herbstreit's kid wandering around in the background while he was talking was hysterical

[sailor]

Two West Virginia starters charged with stealing computers.... (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2982682)


I only wish it was Slaton and White

saying they stole computers is a bit misleading.

[El Mudo]

This story could turn out to be REALLY REALLY bad for college football



The Toledo point shaving scandal.... (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2988714&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1)

[Fezticle98]

I would be happy if...FSU wins the ACC Atlantic Division.

I would be really happy if...FSU beats Florida.

I would be ecstatic if...FSU wins the ACC.


I would be happy if...Hawaii wins the WAC.

I would be really happy if...Hawaii goes undefeated.

I would be ecstatic if...Colt Brennan wins the Heisman.

[weekapaugjz]

let's go UB! fuck rutgers!

[weekapaugjz]

let's go UB! fuck rutgers!

nevermind. i think ray rice might pick up 8 touchdowns tonight.

[El Mudo]

LSU down in Starkville to open things up...t minus 20 minutes!!!


Im really anxious to get a look at that defense they have there

[El Mudo]

Sylvester Croom looks like he could be D Von Dudley's daddy...

[J.Clints]

let's go UB! fuck rutgers!

In a post Imus world?

[Hottub]

In a post Imus world?

Well played.

[TheGameHHH]

LSU down in Starkville to open things up...t minus 20 minutes!!!


Im really anxious to get a look at that defense they have there

LSU could be losing this game right now, unfortunately Mississippi State isn't a good enough ball club to make them pay for their mistakes

[TheGameHHH]

ill take that back now, there was just the sickest hit of the night during the LSU game and on the next play LSU coverted for 6. theyre clearly the better team

[El Mudo]

ill take that back now, there was just the sickest hit of the night during the LSU game and on the next play LSU coverted for 6. theyre clearly the better team




Yeah...that wideout LaFell just DESTROYED that safety....unbelieveable


Great effort by the Miss State defense, but too bad for them their QB sucks....you can't throw 4 INTs in a half (even though they got jobbed on the one on the flea flicker, cause the wideout got punched in the face by the LSU corner)

[Bama]

MS State should never throw another pass ever again.

[TheGameHHH]

3rd pick of the night for LSU's strong safety

[El Mudo]

MS State should never throw another pass ever again.



And its not like they can pull the guy..they have nothing behind him but a true freshman

[TheGameHHH]

And its not like they can pull the guy..they have nothing behind him but a true freshman

yes, they can pull him. the game is over, let the frosh get some work

[Fezticle98]

The punting at the college level is mostly atrocious. I wish I had tried to kick at some level in college. Perhaps it's for the best...kicking in college football is a world full of stabbing and tears.

[Fezticle98]

Michigan is a joke.

They are down by 5 to Div I-AA App State with 5:45 to go. Even if they win, their program should be give the death penalty. How humiliating for them.

[J.Clints]

Go Buckeyes!!!!!Win 38-6

[J.Clints]

ECU Played a great game today. Loose to VT but it was a good one

[J.Clints]

Mich. Just took the lead.

[Fezticle98]

This is too much. I wish this game was on TV here.

[El Mudo]

Michigan is a joke.

They are down by 5 to Div I-AA App State with 5:45 to go. Even if they win, their program should be give the death penalty. How humiliating for them.



App State's got a good program....they've won two straight 1-AA titles...

[King Hippos Bandaid]

should be Named Appalachian

just retook the lead with 24 seconds left

:king:

[J.Clints]

app.st just upset mich. 34-32

[King Hippos Bandaid]

app.st just upset mich. 34-32

Buckeye Nation must be rolling with laughter

:king:

[Fezticle98]

App State's got a good program....they've won two straight 1-AA titles...

I doesn't matter, they are 1AA. No excuse. Under no circumstances should they be able to compete with Michigan, at Ann Arbor.

[Bama]

Appalachian State is HOT HOT HOT

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[El Mudo]

I doesn't matter, they are 1AA. No excuse. Under no circumstances should they be able to compete with Michigan, at Ann Arbor.



True....



To quote Mark May "Lloyd Carr is no longer sitting on the hotseat...he's now sitting on the sun"


I kinda agree that this is probably the biggest upset in the history of college football...I can't really think of anything else off the top of my head that tops it

[Fezticle98]

I'm trying to think of a mythical point spread for this game.

My judgement will probably be clouded by the outcome, but I would say it would have been Michigan -40.

Is there any offshore site that actually posts lines for 1A vs. 1AA games?

[commish13]

Rutgers v. Buffalo was I-A v. I-AA and it had a spread. It was Rutgers -31 or 32.

[weekapaugjz]

Rutgers v. Buffalo was I-A v. I-AA and it had a spread. It was Rutgers -31 or 32.

you have no idea what you are talking about. UB is not 1-AA. they are in the MAC which is 1-A.

[weekapaugjz]

hey phishy, starting to sweat a little bit? if the irish drop this game then they are definitely starting off the year 0-2 cause there is no chance they are going to win in happy valley next week.

[TheGameHHH]

hey phishy, starting to sweat a little bit? if the irish drop this game then they are definitely starting off the year 0-2 cause there is no chance they are going to win in happy valley next week.

as a life-long Irish fan and long time Charlie Weis supporter I gotta tell you I question some of the decisions Weis wants to make with this ball club this season. you are not going to win with an option offense. trust me, if it was a good offense people would use it more often. its designed to hide a lack of passing talent. the irish will not win more then 6 games this season if this is the route they want to go offensively.

[weekapaugjz]

as a life-long Irish fan and long time Charlie Weis supporter I gotta tell you I question some of the decisions Weis wants to make with this ball club this season. you are not going to win with an option offense. trust me, if it was a good offense people would use it more often. its designed to hide a lack of passing talent. the irish will not will more then 6 games this season if this is the route they want to go offensively.

well, they could easily start of the season 0-4...

September 1 Georgia Tech Losing 19-0
September 8 at No. 17 Penn State 6:00 PM ET
September 15 at No. 5 Michigan 3:30 PM ET
September 22 Michigan State

[TheGameHHH]

well, they could easily start of the season 0-4...

September 1 Georgia Tech Losing 19-0
September 8 at No. 17 Penn State 6:00 PM ET
September 15 at No. 5 Michigan 3:30 PM ET
September 22 Michigan State

Michigan didnt look too good today and N.D. will always be up for Penn State, i think they could take one of those 2, michigan state is a toss up. theyre looking at a 1-3 or 2-2 start.

[weekapaugjz]

Michigan didnt look too good today and N.D. will always be up for Penn State, i think they could take one of those 2, michigan state is a toss up. theyre looking at a 1-3 or 2-2 start.

both michigan state and penn state looked good today. penn state looks solid this year and its gonna be tough for the irish to win in happy valley.

[sailor]

i hope they have the sense to pull slaton and white for the 4th quarter.

edit: as i typed that jarrett brown completed his first pass. nevermind.

[kayakthis]

I know ESD is an off again on again fan of Michigan, or at least when they're playing OSU... someone on the ESPN board was stating something about how overrated the Big 10 is (yeah, hard to argue after last years BCS) and how Rutgers would rule the conference. Please, oh please oh please, let Rutgers join the Big 10, (err.. I guess that would be the Big 12...?) Northwestern could use a break...

[PhishHead]

granted it was against third string but Clausen looked great his passes were smooth, sharp and on time.

and i believe Duval and Parris should be starting at WR and obviously need to use Carlson alot more.

[PhishHead]

and in reply to HHH the reason why we did option offense today was because GT sucked against the option last year with slaton and white in the bowl game and I believe charlie thought he could do the same with DD (yes his nickname is DD) and Armando Allen, obviously it didnt work but it was a good plan and thought.

[zen]

just wanted to acknowledge my team's (auburn tigers) mediocre win over kansas state. and in the process I wanted to tip my hat to ksu's coach Ron Price. not just his coaching but his sideline demeanor. for such a young coach I was thoroughly impressed. truly a classy individual. well played ksu. and oh yeah, FUCK YOU MICHIGAN.

[Bama]

just wanted to acknowledge my team's (auburn tigers) mediocre win over kansas state. and in the process I wanted to tip my hat to ksu's coach Ron Price. not just his coaching but his sideline demeanor. for such a young coach I was thoroughly impressed. truly a classy individual. well played ksu. and oh yeah, FUCK YOU MICHIGAN.

My wife's an Auburn grad. She was pissed off for the entire game. I had to stop openly rooting for K State around the third quarter....

Alabama, on the other hand, looked PHENOMENAL. This is going to be a good year.

[El Mudo]

Few thoughts


-We lost Josh Portis before the first game...academically ineligible...wonderful :wallbash:


-Tennessee sucks

-How about Oklahoma dropping 79 on North Texas?? yeesh!!

[Bama]

-Tennessee sucks



QUOTED FOR TRUTH!

[El Mudo]

QUOTED FOR TRUTH!



Has to be....you can't call yourself an SEC power and crap the bed against, of all teams, a Pac 10 team not named Southern Cal. And I already hated Phil Fullmer anyway for being a snitching horse's ass, and then not having the guts to show up at SEC Media Day the next year


And Knoxville and east Tennessee backed the Yankees in the war...so I got that against em too

[zen]

Bama, I can't deny that the Tide was looking pretty sharp. It was just West Carolina though. Saban is far from proving his $32 million price tag. Only time will tell if the university's money was well spent. Regardless, I hope it works out for the Tide. It has been a long time coming. I just love football in general, bama, especially alabama (the state of) football. i will continue to root for the Crimson Tide until the Iron Bowl when the best team (war eagle!!!) will prevail once again :tongue:. Just curious, what's your bama connection? born here? alumni? sorry for the questions but as you can see by my post-count I am a hopeless noob. Just like seeing others with Alabama ties who are into Ron & Fez instead of Rick & Bubba.

[sailor]

And Knoxville and east Tennessee backed the Yankees in the war...so I got that against em too

the war's over. welcome back!

[Ritalin]

What a great day of college football action. Michigan and Notre Dame both spit the bit.

I can barely watch NBC's coverage of ND anymore. I thought Pat Haden was going to go out on the field and fellate Jimmy Clausen there. It's like a ND game is like the Masters or something, so cloying and obvious.

The only thing that could make this sports weekend better is if they were playing NFL games today and the Cowboys lost.

[J.Clints]

MY Buckeyes win, The Wolvs Loose, And The Vols Loose What a saturday:drunk:

[Bama]

Bama, I can't deny that the Tide was looking pretty sharp. It was just West Carolina though. Saban is far from proving his $32 million price tag. Only time will tell if the university's money was well spent. Regardless, I hope it works out for the Tide. It has been a long time coming. I just love football in general, bama, especially alabama (the state of) football. i will continue to root for the Crimson Tide until the Iron Bowl when the best team (war eagle!!!) will prevail once again :tongue:. Just curious, what's your bama connection? born here? alumni? sorry for the questions but as you can see by my post-count I am a hopeless noob. Just like seeing others with Alabama ties who are into Ron & Fez instead of Rick & Bubba.

I'm from Mobile and I'm an alumni too.

There was a thread a few months back where there were like 5 of us from Alabama.

Click here. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59961&highlight=rick+bubba)

[Bama]

the war's over. welcome back!

Says you.

[Dudeman]

play of the day- Desean Jackson
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[commish13]

you have no idea what you are talking about. UB is not 1-AA. they are in the MAC which is 1-A.

My mistake. I could have sworn they were.

[sailor]

Says you.

yes, actually i did. :)

[Da Fish]

It appears that Tebow can in fact throw the ball. I can't wait to see how the Gators develop.

Look out Tennesse, Your being watched....

http://www.innatfolkston.com/nec/images/gator2.gif

[El Mudo]

It appears that Tebow can in fact throw the ball. I can't wait to see how the Gators develop.

Look out Tennesse, Your being watched....

http://www.innatfolkston.com/nec/images/gator2.gif



They lost a LOT of guys off that defense though...I dont think they'll have enough to beat LSU...and that game is in Baton Rouge, but theyve got Tennessee and Auburn both in Gainesville, so that helps


They should be careful in Kentucky though...Andre Woodson's a REALLY good QB

[El Mudo]

Some good matchups next week

Virginia Tech at LSU

Miami at Oklahoma

Nebraska at Wake Forest

Oregon at Michigan

South Florida at Auburn

Notre Dame at Penn State

Navy at Rutgers

[J.Clints]

Appalachian St.
Sep 8, 2007 Lenoir-Rhyne, 3:30 pm


East Carolina Pirates
Sep 8, 2007 North Carolina, 6:00 pm

[Fezticle98]

Appalachian St.
Sep 8, 2007 Lenoir-Rhyne, 3:30 pm

East Carolina Pirates
Sep 8, 2007 North Carolina, 6:00 pm


I think Lenoir-Rhyne can pull off the biggest upset in college football history.

Seriously, I can't wait until tomorrow night. FSU @ Clemson. It will be a great test to see how far FSU's coaching has improved over previous years. I wanted Xavier Lee to win the QB job, but I trust Jimbo Fisher's judgement and talent evaluation skills. Besides, we might actually have a consistent running game for the first time in a few years.

[weekapaugjz]

Some good matchups next week

Notre Dame at Penn State

this game isn't even going to be close. notre dame sucks. i wonder which quaterback they will have starting this game.

[Coach_Mac]

Va Tech-LSU score is going to be 8-6...all safties.

[Bama]

Spy report:

Clemson is good.

[Fezticle98]

Spy report:

Clemson is good.

Spy report: FSU [still] sucks.

[El Mudo]

Spy report: FSU [still] sucks.



Bingo...


From what I see, no QB, no athletes, no playmakers...all the great coaches in the world can't fix that

[Bama]

Bingo...


From what I see, no QB, no athletes, no playmakers...all the great coaches in the world can't fix that

The big problem is no O-line. I guess that's what happens when you have to start freshmen and sophomores.

[Fezticle98]

The big problem is no O-line. I guess that's what happens when you have to start freshmen and sophomores.

Agreed. Weatherford is being given no chance. Antone Smith is a playmaker, but no one can run with people on you in the backfield. Fagg and Carr can't get the ball without some blocking.

That said, there seem to be plenty of problems so far, but it is the first game in a new offense.

[Bama]

Why is Holly Rowe employed by ESPN?

Please make her stop talking.

[El Mudo]

Why is Holly Rowe employed by ESPN?

Please make her stop talking.



More evidence that Erin Andrews should be driven around by bus or have her own private plane so she can attend every single big game, or failing that, put her on a video screen from a studio, or failing that, just run old stock footage...

[Fezticle98]

Why is Holly Rowe employed by ESPN?

Please make her stop eating.

Fixed it for ya!

[JPMNICK]

Bingo...


From what I see, no QB, no athletes, no playmakers...all the great coaches in the world can't fix that

Bowden needs to retire, he is done down there.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Some good matchups next week


Navy at Rutgers


Wha?

[Fezticle98]

Can we retire the Thunder & Lightning moniker already? It is so tired!

It was clever when used to describe Jimmy Smith & McCardell in Jacksonville.

It worked with Tiki & Ron Dayne, even though Dayne sucked.

But please...how many more times must it be recycled?

Now someone say "Well, why don't you tell us how you really feel?!" so I can punch you in the face.

[Bama]

Bowden needs to retire, he is done down there.

I literally can not imagine college football without Bobby Bowden. That will be a sad damn day when he does retire.

[sailor]

4th and 17 and you can't tackle the qb, you deserve to lose badly.

[Bama]

Wow. FSU could still win this thing.

They look like a different team in the second half.

[Bama]

I can't believe this!

[Freakshow]

Bowden needs to retire, he is done down there.

They said the same thing about Paterno a few years back, and he's won a Big Ten title and a couple of new years day bowl games since then.

Can we retire the Thunder & Lightning moniker already? It is so tired!


The true thunder and lightning was Chris Fumatu-Maafala and the other guy at the U of U in the mid 90's. I think Fu outweighed the other back by 100 pounds.

[PhilDeez]

I may have missed this, but why is Weatherford still in there? Lee did not get a shot at all, right? Yes they made it close, but Weatherford can't get out of his own way, would have thought Lee would have been thrown in there.
I am a Va Tech fan so I know I have absolutely no room to talk when it comes to QBs.

[Fezticle98]

I may have missed this, but why is Weatherford still in there? Lee did not get a shot at all, right? Yes they made it close, but Weatherford can't get out of his own way, would have thought Lee would have been thrown in there.
I am a Va Tech fan so I know I have absolutely no room to talk when it comes to QBs.

Weatherford played ok. He had no time to throw in the first half and too many drops. Lee had every opportunity to win the job in the spring and summer, but didn't. There is no reason for a QB switch now.

[Fezticle98]

Rushing the field, are you serious? What a bunch of idiots.

[Bama]

HAHA.

The refs are ruining the Clemson fan's lame celebration.

[Bama]

That was a good game.

Props to Florida State for not giving up.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Is it weird that I just don't want to hear any more about the VT massacre from now on? Yeah, it's shitty that it happened and everything, but life goes on. I may sound selfish for saying this, but if they're 5-0 we're gonna start getting pounded that "the tragedy united them!"

[JPMNICK]

That was a good game.

Props to Florida State for not giving up.

Props to the O line for FSU who stayed back at the hotel and sent the cheerleaders in there to block

[JPMNICK]

Is it weird that I just don't want to hear any more about the VT massacre from now on? Yeah, it's shitty that it happened and everything, but life goes on. I may sound selfish for saying this, but if they're 5-0 we're gonna start getting pounded that "the tragedy united them!"

i actually feel bad for the 1st teams who go in there and beats them. talk about a bitter sweet win.

[Tenbatsuzen]

i actually feel bad for the 1st teams who go in there and beats them. talk about a bitter sweet win.

Well, I just looked at their schedule and any chance of being 5-0 is crazy. They are playing LSU at baton Rouge next week.

So this could swing two ways:

1) LSU wins, we don't have to hear about an underdog national contender who is united through tragedy. Life goes on, and we have an actual healing process.

2) VT beats LSU, and the hype machine doesn't just go into overdrive, but it fucking explodes.

If VT beats LSU, they will steamroll to 5-0 before they face real competiton.

[El Mudo]

Wha?




Don't sleep on Navy....


And its fun to say Kaipo-Noa Kaheaku-Enhada




This is an interesting article....FSU lacking "elite talent" (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=3003519&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1)



Well....DUH.....thanks ESPN for finally realizing 3 or 4 years too late that FSU and Miami are no longer FSU and Miami

[geechie]

My Tigers did me proud last night ... at least during the first half. Defense looked strong the entire game.

[geechie]

Rushing the field, are you serious? What a bunch of idiots.

really? why? a first time starter beat a top 20 team for the first time in clemson history. What would you rather them do? Just sit in the stands and clap? This is the first game of the season and maybe the first game ever for those students that rushed the field. Either way it is a Clemson tradition to 'meet at the paw' after every game (win or lose). The fans meet up with the team in the middle of the field. After 4 years of attending Clemson I have never actually rushed the field but I'm not so sure why you think that these students are idiots for doing so.

[PhilDeez]

Weatherford played ok. He had no time to throw in the first half and too many drops. Lee had every opportunity to win the job in the spring and summer, but didn't. There is no reason for a QB switch now.

I agree he had time to win the job, all I was saying is Weatherford took a lot of sacks that Lee probably could have avoided. Weatherford made some awful throws in the second half, esp on the second to last drive - yes there were some drops also.

On another note, as a VT fan residing in the Commonwealth, I too was getting tired of the whole tragedy angle. However, after attending the game over the weekend I was amazed at the impact of the tragedy 5 months later. It will probably get over hyped and run into the ground, but rightfully so.

[NickyL0885]

I gotta admit. I was never into College football, b/c of too many teams, you dont know the players cept for the Heisman canidates and its hard to pick a team an root for them. Its not like....liking the Jets and have ur fav player be Pennington, ya know? But, after this past saturday, im a fan. ESPN is very good with the coverage. Loved the Va Tech-ECU game. Good hitting all around. ECU has some NFL caliber guys. Im looking forward to this coming saturday, wake up early to watch the games.

[El Mudo]

I gotta admit. I was never into College football, b/c of too many teams, you dont know the players cept for the Heisman canidates and its hard to pick a team an root for them. Its not like....liking the Jets and have ur fav player be Pennington, ya know? But, after this past saturday, im a fan. ESPN is very good with the coverage. Loved the Va Tech-ECU game. Good hitting all around. ECU has some NFL caliber guys. Im looking forward to this coming saturday, wake up early to watch the games.



It helps a lot if you went to a school with a program to really get into it (like me being a Maryland alum and Bama being a Bama alum for example), but you can always find stuff about the guys that are there through either a team's site or reading up on recruiting

As far as finding a team to root for, that can be difficult...and also has to factor in a lot of things like what conference they play in and that kind of thing. I also root for Nebraska and Notre Dame, and I like pretty much any team in the SEC except for Tennessee and Florida (I was very close to going to Mississippi)....but if any of those teams play Maryland, fugeddaboutit.

There are also teams I have always hated and always will hate...namely, Colorado, any team in the PAC 10, Penn State, every other team in the ACC not named Maryland, Tennessee, Florida, and what the heck....just for Aggie (I miss her), I hate Texas

[Bama]

It helps a lot if you went to a school with a program to really get into it (like me being a Maryland alum and Bama being a Bama alum for example), but you can always find stuff about the guys that are there through either a team's site or reading up on recruiting

As far as finding a team to root for, that can be difficult...and also has to factor in a lot of things like what conference they play in and that kind of thing. I also root for Nebraska and Notre Dame, and I like pretty much any team in the SEC except for Tennessee and Florida (I was very close to going to Mississippi)....but if any of those teams play Maryland, fugeddaboutit.

There are also teams I have always hated and always will hate...namely, Colorado, any team in the PAC 10, Penn State, every other team in the ACC not named Maryland, Tennessee, Florida, and what the heck....just for Aggie (I miss her), I hate Texas

I LOVE Alabama. I HATE Tennessee, Auburn and Texas A&M. Every other team I find mildly annoying.

[Fezticle98]

I agree he had time to win the job, all I was saying is Weatherford took a lot of sacks that Lee probably could have avoided. Weatherford made some awful throws in the second half, esp on the second to last drive - yes there were some drops also.

On another note, as a VT fan residing in the Commonwealth, I too was getting tired of the whole tragedy angle. However, after attending the game over the weekend I was amazed at the impact of the tragedy 5 months later. It will probably get over hyped and run into the ground, but rightfully so.

Fair point on the sacks thing. Lee definitely has better escapability and can make the long throw. If the o-line continues to struggle, they may have to go to Lee out of necessity rather than Weatherford's failings. It just troubles me that someone as talented as Lee cannot win the job. The reports I have heard from practice are that he is just lost on a lot of plays. If we are to the point where it is sandlot football because the offensive line keeps letting everyone through, then Lee is the only option.

It also pisses me off that Lee is usually thrown in in hopeless, back to the wall situations, where he is almost doomed to fail. When given an honest shot, he can make huge plays. He was amazing in the Maryland game last year.

[Fezticle98]

really? why? a first time starter beat a top 20 team for the first time in clemson history. What would you rather them do? Just sit in the stands and clap? This is the first game of the season and maybe the first game ever for those students that rushed the field. Either way it is a Clemson tradition to 'meet at the paw' after every game (win or lose). The fans meet up with the team in the middle of the field. After 4 years of attending Clemson I have never actually rushed the field but I'm not so sure why you think that these students are idiots for doing so.

The tradition thing is fine. It's my opinion that rushing the field should be reserved for special occasions. Beating a team you have beaten 3 of the 4 previous years, in my mind, does not qualify as a special occasion. I think it is embarassing to the program. You should expect to beat FSU at home.

Like you said, it was the first game of the season. Not a particularly momentous game or dramatic come-from-behind, or anything like that. I doubt that 20% of the students new that a first time starter had beaten a top 20 team for the first time in Clemson history. They weren't watching on TV to hear that, nor is it really that significant of an achievement, otherwise, the line would not have been 3 pts.

Just my opinion, but I think that rushing the field and rushing the court has been whored out over recent years. Again, I'm not arguing against a particular tradition, just against the idea of rushing the field at the drop of a hat.

[PhilDeez]

Fair point on the sacks thing. Lee definitely has better escapability and can make the long throw. If the o-line continues to struggle, they may have to go to Lee out of necessity rather than Weatherford's failings. It just troubles me that someone as talented as Lee cannot win the job. The reports I have heard from practice are that he is just lost on a lot of plays. If we are to the point where it is sandlot football because the offensive line keeps letting everyone through, then Lee is the only option.

It also pisses me off that Lee is usually thrown in in hopeless, back to the wall situations, where he is almost doomed to fail. When given an honest shot, he can make huge plays. He was amazing in the Maryland game last year.

I am in the same boat with Glennon. He sucks ass. He can't move, can't throw, and looks like he is 12 with his rosey cheeks and talks like a thug. I am a VT fan, in case you were unaware of the greatness that is Sean Glennon.
Two years ago Frank Goiter Neck leaves Ike Whitticker, a touted 5 star recruit, on the bench for Glennon for the same reasons - he can't learn the plays. This year, an even more hyped 5 star, Tyrod Taylor, is sitting on the bench because he only can run 8 plays - his 8 probably would account for more than Glennons playbook. Oh well, sorry to rant I just feel your pain - expect that Weatherford is actually a capable QB unlike Glennon, I better stop.

[El Mudo]

Scoop Jackson sucks... (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=jackson/070903)

[PhilDeez]

Scoop Jackson sucks... (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=jackson/070903)

He is a douche.
He needs to re-write his list; hmmm Ohio St. v Mich. can't come close to Federerv Nadal, guess he missed Nadal getting bounced yesterday.

[sailor]

scoop should not try to be funny. and serena's black?? and no one in college football is? just makes no sense.

[buzzard]

That's one of the lamest articles/columns I've ever seen! Scoop Jackson the politician was more informed!:annoyed:

[Hottub]

Tonight. 7pm (eastern) ESPN will be broadcasting the thrashing of Navy by 15th ranked Rutgers. Records will be broken tonight. It's a shoot!

[sailor]

when did they change the names of div 1-a and 1-aa? what fuckin' horseshit is that?

[Hottub]

24-7 Final. the Beast of the East rolls along.:thumbup:

[drjoek]

24-7 Final. the Beast of the East rolls along.:thumbup:

Not exactly a thrashing :innocent:

[sailor]

24-7 Final. the Beast of the East rolls along.:thumbup:

50 days...wait for it...

[Fezticle98]

24-7 Final. the Beast of the East rolls along.:thumbup:

:nono: Halftime.

[Hottub]

:nono: Halftime.

You are correct, sir.
The wife switched to TLC while I was walking the dog.
Navy is Driving!! Deep!!:wallbash:

[sailor]

You are correct, sir.
The wife switched to TLC while I was walking the dog.
Navy is Driving!! Deep!!:wallbash:

final and the MOV stayed the same.

[TheGameHHH]

I can't remember the last time i've felt like this as an N.D. fan but the Irish are gonna get their asses handed to them tomorrow. the last time i felt this hopeless was probably during the ron powlus era and sadly he's their QB coach now

[El Mudo]

when did they change the names of div 1-a and 1-aa? what fuckin' horseshit is that?



Its the new ncaa poo poo speak...the old 1-AA is now the FCS, or Football Championship Subdivision, and the old 1-A is now the FBS, or Football Bowl Subdivision. EVERYONE is now classified as "Division 1", those are just the two subdivisions within it


Also, you can call it the Appalachian State rule, because now teams from lower tier conferences and the FCS are now eligible for the AP Top 25

[J.Clints]

I am very excited!!!!!! The Dish Network just announced that there were picking up the Big Ten Network. Hell Yeas I can Watch all My buckeyes games

[PhishHead]

I can't remember the last time i've felt like this as an N.D. fan but the Irish are gonna get their asses handed to them tomorrow. the last time i felt this hopeless was probably during the ron powlus era and sadly he's their QB coach now

the last time i felt hopeless was during the Ty era, our offense was so pitiful with him that it was ridiculous and I do not feel hopeless at all right now.

We have a young QB who needs to start games and get experience down so I am not worried either way the game goes the kid gets exactly what he needs real college experience. Plus our RB's are very good and that gives alot of hope.

Hopefully Floyd agrees to come here and him along with Duval gives us our two WRs for the next 3-4 years. Or even Deion Walker agreeing would be great, plus we have Dayne Crist coming next year, who is another AMAZING HS Qb. I am not even close to as hopeless as I was during the HORRIBLE recruiting era of Ty.

[sailor]

Its the new ncaa poo poo speak...the old 1-AA is now the FCS, or Football Championship Subdivision, and the old 1-A is now the FBS, or Football Bowl Subdivision. EVERYONE is now classified as "Division 1", those are just the two subdivisions within it


Also, you can call it the Appalachian State rule, because now teams from lower tier conferences and the FCS are now eligible for the AP Top 25

yeah, the names are quite gay. i just saw them in passing in an article and was appalled.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Here comes the Best Weekend in Footbal


"The first weekend with both a Full College and NFL Schedule"

I have my "Go Team" Foam Finger

:king:

[Tenbatsuzen]

I don't understand how this idiots on ESPN 2 can pound the fact that Marshall is the new Appalachian State when 1) WVU is only down 4 and 2) it's not even halftime yet.

Ugh, WVU is not playing like a third ranked team here.

[sailor]

I don't understand how this idiots on ESPN 2 can pound the fact that Marshall is the new Appalachian State when 1) WVU is only down 4 and 2) it's not even halftime yet.

Ugh, WVU is not playing like a third ranked team here.

touchdown! didn't realise the game was on, till i read your post. 2nd play i watch, they tied it up. i'm sorry it took me so long.

[Tenbatsuzen]

As Slaton goes, so does the rest of the team. Slaton's been effectively shut down so Rodriguez is adjusting the game plan, using short passes to move down the field.

[sailor]

fuck, that should have been picked!

[Dudeman]

How come Rutgers, Lousiville, and West Virginia don't play any good teams outside of their conference???? None of them play a ranked non-conference team. :annoyed:

If they just beat the crap teams in the big east, they are guarenteed to have only 2 losses at most.

Plus there is no way to judge if they are really any good...

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Ohio St just hut a 3 Run HR

3-2 Ohio St over Akron for the "Battle for Ohio"

:king:

[Tenbatsuzen]

How come Rutgers, Lousiville, and West Virginia don't play any good teams outside of their conference???? None of them play a ranked non-conference team. :annoyed:

If they just beat the crap teams in the big east, they are guarenteed to have only 2 losses at most.

Plus there is no way to judge if they are really any good...

Wow, I heard this same argument. Last year.

Oh, right, the Big East went 4-0 in their bowls.

And 2 losses is enough to drop you into a shitty bowl.

[sailor]

How come Rutgers, Lousiville, and West Virginia don't play any good teams outside of their conference???? None of them play a ranked non-conference team. :annoyed:

If they just beat the crap teams in the big east, they are guarenteed to have only 2 losses at most.

Plus there is no way to judge if they are really any good...

inter-conference games between ranked teams are not as common as you'd think. if i feel up to it (or someone else wants to jump on it) i'll make a list based on today's rankings. i think i heard something about wvu trying to sign a home-and home with notre dame or someone, but i can't find anything now. incidentally, all three ranked teams won their bowl games last year.

[Tenbatsuzen]

How come Rutgers, Lousiville, and West Virginia don't play any good teams outside of their conference???? None of them play a ranked non-conference team. :annoyed:

If they just beat the crap teams in the big east, they are guarenteed to have only 2 losses at most.

Plus there is no way to judge if they are really any good...

What "good teams" outside of their conference does someone like USC play?

Notre Dame. Idaho. Nebraska. That's it. Nebraska is the only ranked team they play outside their conference.

[led37zep]

This is all I'm concerned with right now.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff275/tmshannon_2007/35340.jpg

[sailor]

i love the approaching noel devine era.

[Tenbatsuzen]

It's now 48-23 WVU. Appalachian State what? STFU, Espn2 fourth string announcers.

[sailor]

It's now 48-23 WVU. Appalachian State what? STFU, Espn2 fourth string announcers.

started slowly, but then put up 48 and covered the 24 point spread.

btw, i was surprised when i found out appalachian state wasn't in west virginia.

[JimBeam]

So Tenbats you're now comparing a Big East team to USC ?

And enough already w/ poo pooing ND's schedule. It's tiresome.

Don't confuse their recent struggles w/ the likes of Oh St and LSU with thinking they are in any way inferior to teams that play the likes of Howard and Ohio ( which Rutgers did last year ).

The common opponents Rutgers had w/ ND last year were UNC and Navy both of which ND scored more points against ( scoring 28 points more combined ). While they gave up more points against these teams ( 40 points allowed against both w/ Rutgers surrendering only 16 ) that's a direct cause of a defense being out there more often w/ a team scoring more.

They played 7 team that went to bowls last year and if you include the BCS game against LSU they played 3 BCS teams ( including both Rose Bowl teams ).

The thing is other schools ARE playing top teams from other BCS conferences even if it is only 1 time. The top Big East teams did not play a ranked team from another conference until the bowls.

What's even more laugable is that as much as ND's sched gets scrutinized they still aren't scheduling games against the Big East.

Wins against Mich and USC mean a whole lot more than they do against Rutgers and WV.

[sailor]

nd scores 28 more, gives up 24 more and you think that shows anything but parity?

[JimBeam]

Sadly we cant compare any other games because ND didn't play Howard, Murray State or Eastern Washington ( teams played by the Big East's top 3 ).

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm not poo-pooing ND's schedule. EVERYBODY plays creampuffs. the question was, who is Rutgers playing outside of their conference, and the answer is, who does ANY team play outside of their conference?

It's not the Big East's fault they they aren't a powerhouse YET like the SEC or something, but having three ranked teams and three very dangerous teams in USF, UConn, and Pitt.

That being said, the Big East, given if WVU, Rutgers, and Louisville hold their shit together, can become a very good conference VERY fast if Syracuse, USF, UConn, and Pitt get their shit in place.

How many other conferences have four legitimate Heismann contenders playing in it? RIce, Slaton, Brohm, and White.

[JimBeam]

Tenbats I wasnt necessarily saying you were poo-pooing their schedule but it was more of a reaction to the same old tagline about ND. People who know football know that ND plays at least 3 Top 20 teams every year.

I was reacting more to the way you made it seem that USC playing ND didn't amount to much.

Surely the Big east can make strides as any conference can because there's much more parity this year than there was even 5 years ago.

I would just like to see the Big East play a regular season game against a team in the top half of their respective conference.

The schedules are made 5 years in advance so hopefully at this point they are looking into scheduling these games in the future.

Also in defense of USC in the past few years of their run they have played road games at Auburn and Arkansas.

[El Mudo]

How come Rutgers, Lousiville, and West Virginia don't play any good teams outside of their conference???? None of them play a ranked non-conference team. :annoyed:

If they just beat the crap teams in the big east, they are guarenteed to have only 2 losses at most.

Plus there is no way to judge if they are really any good...


Rutgers and West Virginia are both playing Maryland :wink:

And besides, the Big East is a pretty good conference...Remember, Louisville, WVU, Rutgers, and South Florida all have to play EACH OTHER, plus I dont think Pitt is really all that bad either

Ive been watching this Michigan/Oregon game for five minutes, and I can already say without question, and without a shadow of a doubt....Michigan STINKS....WOOF!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheGameHHH]

the last time i felt hopeless was during the Ty era, our offense was so pitiful with him that it was ridiculous and I do not feel hopeless at all right now.

We have a young QB who needs to start games and get experience down so I am not worried either way the game goes the kid gets exactly what he needs real college experience. Plus our RB's are very good and that gives alot of hope.

Hopefully Floyd agrees to come here and him along with Duval gives us our two WRs for the next 3-4 years. Or even Deion Walker agreeing would be great, plus we have Dayne Crist coming next year, who is another AMAZING HS Qb. I am not even close to as hopeless as I was during the HORRIBLE recruiting era of Ty.

Didn't our RB's have like 6 total yards last week? you can be barry sanders out there and you still aren't going to succeed with that horrid offensive line......and who cares about who agrees to come to N.D. in the future, its not about next season its about now. Ty recruited horribly? you know that immediate success Charlie Weis enjoyed when he first got to N.D.? those were all Ty's guys. weis has done nothing with his position and as of now id take willingham over weis in a minute, the discipline Ty taught was second to none. and this is all comming from a big time Patriots fan and huge homer for Weis.

[Dudeman]

What "good teams" outside of their conference does someone like USC play?

Notre Dame. Idaho. Nebraska. That's it. Nebraska is the only ranked team they play outside their conference.

thats better than wvu, ru, or louisville. moreover, other teams in their league play top teams from other conferences: cal vs. tenn, oregon vs. mich, wash vs. boise, washst vs. wisco, etc. so it isn't totally isolated. the big east is totally isolated- having a better than average team in that league guarentees a good record.

[Dudeman]

That being said, the Big East, given if WVU, Rutgers, and Louisville hold their shit together, can become a very good conference VERY fast if Syracuse, USF, UConn, and Pitt get their shit in place.



syracuse lost 42-14 at home to wash last week- and wash has been one of the lower pac10 teams for the last few years. if that's what is qualifing as competition in the big east...

[El Mudo]

U Dub is up 14 on Boise early...


But Cal can't shake Colorado State...theyre only up 7 late

[JimBeam]

I'm not ready to bail on Weis yet.

He's rebuilding a whole team so I'll have patience.

As far as him winning with Willingham's players let's not forget that Willingahm started winning w/ Davie's players and them started losing w/ his own players.

While Willingham must've done something to get Weis at least a few good players coaching alos has a lot to do w/ that.

I think Weis got a little more out of Willingham's players than Willingham could himself.

I can live w/ ND taking 3 even 4 losses this year as long as they get the players better and more prepapred for the next few years.

[Tenbatsuzen]

thats better than wvu, ru, or louisville. moreover, other teams in their league play top teams from other conferences: cal vs. tenn, oregon vs. mich, wash vs. boise, washst vs. wisco, etc. so it isn't totally isolated. the big east is totally isolated- having a better than average team in that league guarentees a good record.

That's because nobody wanted anything to do with the Big East. Do you honestly think teams were gonna travel cross-country to play the Big East for low-rated, low-crowd games? Do you think the Big East wanted to go cross-country to get slaughtered? Plus it was probably a money deal.

As Mudo said, the top tier Big East teams play an ACC team - Maryland - that is decent and on par with a Wisconsin or a Idaho.

Notre Dame is another thing altogether, but I don't want to hear this shit about playing each other, because it's the EXACT same deal in the Pac-10 and other conferences. And I still haven't heard shit about one conference having 4 potential Heisman candidates.

If the Big East continues having three ranked teams every year, we'll probably see a high-profile matchup against other conferences down the road, because ESPN will put it together. NOBODY saw the Big East getting this good, this fast.

[Tenbatsuzen]

syracuse lost 42-14 at home to wash last week- and wash has been one of the lower pac10 teams for the last few years. if that's what is qualifing as competition in the big east...

You're missing the point. I didn't say Syracuse was good. And I never said the Big East was as good as the Pac-10. I'm just saying that in order to build up the conference, this is needed.

The Big East was in some serious shit a few years ago. Now that you have three ranked teams and three very competitive teams, it will build the conference up year after year.

[Tenbatsuzen]

The top Big East teams did not play a ranked team from another conference until the bowls.



Right. And what happened there, again?

[Dudeman]

As Mudo said, the top tier Big East teams play an ACC team - Maryland - that is decent and on par with a Wisconsin

maryland is on par with wisc?

[Tenbatsuzen]

maryland is on par with wisc?

My bad. I meant to say exterior conference teams who aren't 1-AA creampuffs.

[Dudeman]

Right. And what happened there, again?

unfortunately they didnt get matched up against any good teams from the sec, big10,pac10, or big12 (k state was not very good last year.)

my point is simply that it is difficult to say how good these 3 teams (or their players) really are until the league starts playing games against some of the middle to good teams from one of those leagues.

[JimBeam]

But how do you expect the big East to get respect nationally if they arent willing to travel to the west coast to play teams that they will probably lose to ?

They should get a pass because they think it's futile ?

What about the other teams that do make the trips ?

Cal to Tenn last year and Tenn returning the favor this year.

USC and Ark playing a home and away.

Sure LSU's not gonna schedule a game at Rutgers because they'd lose thousands of dollars.

In those cases, when a team is trying to earn " respect " they have to be willing to make the travel the first few times.

Yeah Maryland is a good team but why not try and schedule a BC, Miami, FSU or a Ga Tech ?

As I've stated before most of the big teams at the tops of conferences at least schedule one game against another BCS league team.

The SEC crys about their regular season being so tough every year and that's why they dont play other big teams consistently and I always thought that was nonsense.

Not to say that the lower tier of the SEC couldnt beat many teams from other lesser conferences but you have to at least have 1 game to measure yourself against the other conferences.

This year LSU is playing Va Tech. UF plays FSU every year.

Mich is playing Oregon.

Until the Big East shows that it can beat a ranked team from the top 4 conferences on the road you'll always hear this argument.

As far as H-man candidates I can bet thatthe 4 players you are touting for the H-man are not so easily mentioned in other parts of the country.

I'm sure there are probably 4 guys on USC alone that can be mentioned for the award.

I wouldnt put much on seeing any 1 of the 4 players you're thinking about sitting at that ceremony in December let alone 2 of them.

A few years ago Jay Cutler's name was mentioned at the start of the season as a possible H-man candidate yet that didn't materialize. Prior years' numbers and pre-season hype don't assure anybody the award.

[JimBeam]

Actually the Big East did have wins against the #1 and #2 ACC teams ( Wake Forest & ga Tech ) but the win against K-State wasn't much as they were the 6th if not 7th " best " team from the Big 12.

All I can say to that was that the ACC was not the usual ACC last year but a win is a win and the Big East obvioulsy gets credit for that.

Only other defense there is that beating a team when you've had 30 days to prepare is a lot different than playing them when you have 5 days to prepare.

People who said that Mich was slow and lacked talent againt App St cant say w/ any semblance of sanity that App St had better athletes. It's just not true.

They played a great game and Mich failed to make the plays they needed ( they still scored 30+ points ).

If that game is played 9 more times Mich wins every one of them and some of them by 40+ points.

Alas that last comment goes w/ the would've/could've.

[led37zep]

25-7 in the 2nd!!!!!!!!

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k144/cougarfb65/Today1024.jpg

[led37zep]

Oh nevermind...we just scored again!

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k144/cougarfb65/Desire1280.jpg

[Bama]

I thought Michigan would come out all pissed off and take it too Oregon. Guess not.........

They are getting slapped around IN THEIR OWN HOUSE.

[TheGameHHH]

Michigan sucks

[sailor]

syracuse lost 42-14 at home to wash last week- and wash has been one of the lower pac10 teams for the last few years. if that's what is qualifing as competition in the big east...

syracuse was 1-6 and dead last in the big east last year, so no, i don't think anyone said they were qualifying as competition in the big east.

[PhishHead]

Didn't our RB's have like 6 total yards last week? you can be barry sanders out there and you still aren't going to succeed with that horrid offensive line......and who cares about who agrees to come to N.D. in the future, its not about next season its about now. Ty recruited horribly? you know that immediate success Charlie Weis enjoyed when he first got to N.D.? those were all Ty's guys. weis has done nothing with his position and as of now id take willingham over weis in a minute, the discipline Ty taught was second to none. and this is all comming from a big time Patriots fan and huge homer for Weis.

dude you are the worse kind of fan if you are only thinking about this year. and you are a complete idiot if you want Ty over Weis. Ty may have recruited those guys but he did nothing with them at all. Charlie is the one who actually made them good, and he had absolutely no backups to them because of Ty's shitty recruiting. Weis needs time for his recruits to develop they are all frosh or sophs give it time man. You are freaking talking like its not rebuilding year. We have a brand new Oline a brand new QB and a brand new defensive scheme if you were expecting gold the first year you are out of your mind bro. And the only reason Ty even got Quinn was because Ndukwe's dad fucking begged him to take him, Ty did not recruit Quinn AT ALL. Ty passed over Forsett and look what that kid is doing at Cal. Ty said he was too small and would never play at a D1 school. Yea he was freaking great. Ty also had Ryan Grant starting over/splitting carries with Julius Jones, where is Grant and Where is JUlius now?? Yea the great TY.

Ty went 5-7 and 6-6 back to back we went to 2 bowl games, and yea maybe ty recruited Quinn but what did he do with him?? Absolutely nothing. Stovall was crap before Weis, and The Shark was A FREAKING BENCH PLAYER. Yea Ty really knew what it he was doing.

Charlie had a top 10 recruiting class last year and so far this year we are #1. Ty was never that NEVER. and Charlie has taken us to 2 BCS bowls, even if we lost, we went.

And wtf does Ty's discipline have to do with anything? Give some examples of this discipline and how it actually helped the team perform?

[Tenbatsuzen]

I thought Michigan would come out all pissed off and take it too Oregon. Guess not.........

They are getting slapped around IN THEIR OWN HOUSE.

Tom Brady weeps!

[TheGameHHH]

dude you are the worse kind of fan if you are only thinking about this year. and you are a complete idiot if you want Ty over Weis. Ty may have recruited those guys but he did nothing with them at all. Charlie is the one who actually made them good, and he had absolutely no backups to them because of Ty's shitty recruiting. Weis needs time for his recruits to develop they are all frosh or sophs give it time man. You are freaking talking like its not rebuilding year. We have a brand new Oline a brand new QB and a brand new defensive scheme if you were expecting gold the first year you are out of your mind bro. And the only reason Ty even got Quinn was because Ndukwe's dad fucking begged him to take him, Ty did not recruit Quinn AT ALL. Ty passed over Forsett and look what that kid is doing at Cal. Ty said he was too small and would never play at a D1 school. Yea he was freaking great. Ty also had Ryan Grant starting over/splitting carries with Julius Jones, where is Grant and Where is JUlius now?? Yea the great TY.

Ty went 5-7 and 6-6 back to back we went to 2 bowl games, and yea maybe ty recruited Quinn but what did he do with him?? Absolutely nothing. Stovall was crap before Weis, and The Shark was A FREAKING BENCH PLAYER. Yea Ty really knew what it he was doing.

Charlie had a top 10 recruiting class last year and so far this year we are #1. Ty was never that NEVER. and Charlie has taken us to 2 BCS bowls, even if we lost, we went.

And wtf does Ty's discipline have to do with anything? Give some examples of this discipline and how it actually helped the team perform?

alright, we have a lot to discuss here but before you continue to get heated take a deep breath and relax. first off all you talk about how Weis needs time for his recruits to develop, when Ty was only there for three seasons and never saw his recruits develop because he only recruited for 2 seasons. secondly, your boy Weis swore before the first game this season that it was NOT a rebuiliding year. he even used the quote, 'god strike me dead if i ever use that word to describe our season.'

[JimBeam]

But that's because as a coach uisng the term " rebuilding " means that nothing should be expected from the team and he shouldn't ever think that way.

In reality the fans and talking heads know that replacing 5 starters on offense, with very litte seasoning amongst those filing those roles, is rebuilding.

[PhishHead]

alright, we have a lot to discuss here but before you continue to get heated take a deep breath and relax. first off all you talk about how Weis needs time for his recruits to develop, when Ty was only there for three seasons and never saw his recruits develop because he only recruited for 2 seasons. secondly, your boy Weis swore before the first game this season that it was NOT a rebuiliding year. he even used the quote, 'god strike me dead if i ever use that word to describe our season.'

Yea dude i know he said that, but if you know anything about football at all everyone knew it was, just cause he doesn't say it was, doesn't meant its not. Everyone knows it is, even Lou Holtz said it was. If anyone really expected more then 6-7 wins they are idiots. and what coach is going to come straight out and say yea we are rebuilding, that would kill his players confidence. What kind of attitude would that set for his team? Think a little bit man. Did you ever play any level of sports High school or college? Would you ever want your coach to say that about a team you were on? IT would absolutely kill your self esteem, and especially for 5th year seniors (tommy z, carlson and so forth) that would completely destroy them.

Ty never would have let them develop though either cause he didnt play them, he didnt want Quinn he wanted Lovitch(wrong spelling he transferred to Indiana) and he wanted Holliday. He also didnt want Shark or Stovall. The only guy he wanted was Walker and he wasnt that great without Weis.

Sorry for getting heated but I absolutely hate when people say they are Ty's guys its such BS because they dont actually read articles or follow ND in the recruit season and see the behind the scene shit that Ty did.

[Snoogans]

cheer up ND fans. If you get down, just put on channel 7 and check out how Michigan is doin

[TheGameHHH]

But that's because as a coach uisng the term " rebuilding " means that nothing should be expected from the team and he shouldn't ever think that way.

In reality the fans and talking heads know that replacing 5 starters on offense, with very litte seasoning amongst those filing those roles, is rebuilding.

right, which is why i categorized this season as hopeless because they lost too much in the offseason and dont have enough good players to step up and fill the roles

[TheGameHHH]

Yea dude i know he said that, but if you know anything about football at all everyone knew it was, just cause he doesn't say it was, doesn't meant its not. Everyone knows it is, even Lou Holtz said it was. If anyone really expected more then 6-7 wins they are idiots. and what coach is going to come straight out and say yea we are rebuilding, that would kill his players confidence. What kind of attitude would that set for his team? Think a little bit man. Did you ever play any level of sports High school or college? Would you ever want your coach to say that about a team you were on? IT would absolutely kill your self esteem, and especially for 5th year seniors (tommy z, carlson and so forth) that would completely destroy them.

Ty never would have let them develop though either cause he didnt play them, he didnt want Quinn he wanted Lovitch(wrong spelling he transferred to Indiana) and he wanted Holliday. He also didnt want Shark or Stovall. The only guy he wanted was Walker and he wasnt that great without Weis.

Sorry for getting heated but I absolutely hate when people say they are Ty's guys its such BS because they dont actually read articles or follow ND in the recruit season and see the behind the scene shit that Ty did.

Matt LoVecchio sucked, but at least he ran the option more successfully then Weis did last week. for somebody who's supposed to be an offensive genius he certainly came out with an awful game plan. LoVecchio transferred because he wasnt going to play, i would have left too. so i really dont think he was "wanted" by anyone. i think Holliday was more talented then anybody they have now, probably not Claussen when it's all said and done but as of right now yes. the last thing i dont understand is you keep saying Ty didn't "want" this guy or that guy yet they all wound up playing Notre Dame football. I would think a coach has sizeable control over who plays football, if he truly didn't "want" a player there they simply wouldnt be there. could it be possible that certain articles exaggerated when writing about what Ty wanted and didn't want?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

1 2 3 4 F
ronfez.net 7 10 0 14 31
Michagan 0 0 0 0 0

1st Quarter

ronfez.net TD : spoon 34 yd TD pass from Fat_Sunny (Marc with a c made PAT) 7:18

2nd Quarter

ronfez.net FG: Marc with a c made 41 yard Field Goal 5:59

ronfez.net TD: King Hippos Bandaid 13 Yrd Fumble Return (Marc with a c made PAT)12:14

4th Quarter:

ronfez.net TD: Snoogans 4 yd TD run (Marc with a c made PAT)

ronfez.net TD: FUNKMAN 15 Yd Pass from Fat_Sunny (Marc with a c made PAT) 2:15


Stats to Follow

:king:

[PhishHead]

Matt LoVecchio sucked, but at least he ran the option more successfully then Weis did last week. for somebody who's supposed to be an offensive genius he certainly came out with an awful game plan. LoVecchio transferred because he wasnt going to play, i would have left too. so i really dont think he was "wanted" by anyone. i think Holliday was more talented then anybody they have now, probably not Claussen when it's all said and done but as of right now yes. the last thing i dont understand is you keep saying Ty didn't "want" this guy or that guy yet they all wound up playing Notre Dame football. I would think a coach has sizeable control over who plays football, if he truly didn't "want" a player there they simply wouldnt be there. could it be possible that certain articles exaggerated when writing about what Ty wanted and didn't want?

The Shark didnt play when Ty was there, Stovall's time was very Limited and Quinn did not progress at all with him there. Rhema hardly played at all as well. The only person who had some playing time was Darius and that was because Grant and JJ had left and they needed someone to take over and they had no one else.

[TheGameHHH]

The Shark didnt play when Ty was there, Stovall's time was very Limited and Quinn did not progress at all with him there. Rhema hardly played at all as well. The only person who had some playing time was Darius and that was because Grant and JJ had left and they needed someone to take over and they had no one else.

you do realize they were young and inexperienced in college football under ty? the same development you preach never came into fruition because Ty was never given enough time to develop those guys. they were mostly frosh/sophs under Ty and Jr./Sr. under Weis, thats a huge advantage for Weis

[PhishHead]

you do realize they were young and inexperienced in college football under ty? the same development you preach never came into fruition because Ty was never given enough time to develop those guys. they were mostly frosh/sophs under Ty and Jr./Sr. under Weis, thats a huge advantage for Weis

they were Sr/JR under Weis yet with no playing experience and weis took that and completely changed them that first year. Look what he did with Stovall and Shark in that first year when Ty didnt even play them, that should tell you something right there. even Quinn yes he played under Ty but look what he did under him nothing. Ty didnt even play them to develop them, so yea thats Ty's fault cause he didnt recognize and realize how good these players were.

[TheGameHHH]

they were Sr/JR under Weis yet with no playing experience and weis took that and completely changed them that first year. Look what he did with Stovall and Shark in that first year when Ty didnt even play them, that should tell you something right there. even Quinn yes he played under Ty but look what he did under him nothing. Ty didnt even play them to develop them, so yea thats Ty's fault cause he didnt recognize and realize how good these players were.

Shark, Stovall and McKnight played in all 12 games their first seasons under Ty. Stovall actually had some decent stats.

[Dudeman]

Michigan sucks

App St. sucks. THey could only beat these guys by 2.

[PhishHead]

Shark, Stovall and McKnight played in all 12 games their first seasons under Ty. Stovall actually had some decent stats.

just a quick note
You are mistake

in Ty;s first season Stovall played in 10, Rhema in 5 Shark wasnt there yet

2nd season stovall in 7, Rhema in 12, and Shark in 4

First season, Stovall had 18 Catches, Rhema had 9

2nd season, Stovall had 22 and Rhema had 47 and Shark had 7

[TheGameHHH]

just a quick note
You are mistake

in Ty;s first season Stovall played in 10, Rhema in 5 Shark wasnt there yet

2nd season stovall in 7, Rhema in 12, and Shark in 4

First season, Stovall had 18 Catches, Rhema had 9

2nd season, Stovall had 22 and Rhema had 47 and Shark had 7

youre right i was looking at the second season under Ty, and here's the stats:
RECEIVING GP-GS No. Yds Avg TD Long Avg/G
----------------------------------------------------
McKnight,Rhema 12-8 47 600 12.8 3 38 50.0
Jenkins,Omar 12-12 36 344 9.6 1 42 28.7
Stovall,M. 12-3 22 421 19.1 3 85 35.1
Fasano,Anthony 11-3 18 169 9.4 2 19 15.4
Clark,Jared 12-2 15 142 9.5 0 23 11.8
Schmidt,Josh 12-1 13 125 9.6 0 15 10.4
Jones,Julius 12-7 10 53 5.3 0 15 4.4
Grant,Ryan 12-5 9 64 7.1 0 16 5.3
Samardzija,J. 12-0 7 53 7.6 0 19 4.4


doesnt that say 12 games played for McKnight, Stovall and Samardzija?

[TheGameHHH]

just a quick note
You are mistake

in Ty;s first season Stovall played in 10, Rhema in 5 Shark wasnt there yet

2nd season stovall in 7, Rhema in 12, and Shark in 4

First season, Stovall had 18 Catches, Rhema had 9

2nd season, Stovall had 22 and Rhema had 47 and Shark had 7

your stats also say they both improved from one year to the next in catches, yet you claim Ty did nothing with them

[PhishHead]

youre right i was looking at the second season under Ty, and here's the stats:
RECEIVING GP-GS No. Yds Avg TD Long Avg/G
----------------------------------------------------
McKnight,Rhema 12-8 47 600 12.8 3 38 50.0
Jenkins,Omar 12-12 36 344 9.6 1 42 28.7
Stovall,M. 12-3 22 421 19.1 3 85 35.1
Fasano,Anthony 11-3 18 169 9.4 2 19 15.4
Clark,Jared 12-2 15 142 9.5 0 23 11.8
Schmidt,Josh 12-1 13 125 9.6 0 15 10.4
Jones,Julius 12-7 10 53 5.3 0 15 4.4
Grant,Ryan 12-5 9 64 7.1 0 16 5.3
Samardzija,J. 12-0 7 53 7.6 0 19 4.4


doesnt that say 12 games played for McKnight, Stovall and Samardzija?

okay not sure where you got your stats cause what i am looking at doesnt say 12 games for any of them.

[BoondockSaint]

Who shaves words into their head anymore?

[TheGameHHH]

okay not sure where you got your stats cause what i am looking at doesnt say 12 games for any of them.

i got them from the official athletic site of the university of notre dame

[PhishHead]

i got them from the official athletic site of the university of notre dame

thats kind of funny since i have those little books you buy at the beginning and ending of the years with stats and prospects of coming year blahblahblah and thats where im getting mine and it doesnt say 12, figures a school cant get the stats correct for print and web.

[Bama]

Fresno State is about to knock off Texas A&M in OT.

It's on FSN right now. GO BULLDOGS.

[TheGameHHH]

that was a terrible offensive call by Weis, running a swing pass with 9 seconds left.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Fresno State is about to knock off Texas A&M in OT.

It's on FSN right now. GO BULLDOGS.

Where's Aggie?!?!

[El Mudo]

Digging this Fresno/A & M game...I LOVE college OT



U Dub took down Boise

Georgia strugglin' with South Carolina

Florida State is tied with UAB late in the third... FSU JUST tied the game after being down 17-3

Michigan stinks


Cannot WAIT to see the Hokies get destroyed by Louisiana State

[Bama]

Crap. Now they're about to go into 3OT.


Edit: Oh well, aTm found a way to pull it out. Two point conversions suck.

[sailor]

Digging this Fresno/A & M game...I LOVE college OT



U Dub took down Boise

Georgia strugglin' with South Carolina

Florida State is tied with UAB late in the third... FSU JUST tied the game after being down 17-3

Michigan stinks


Cannot WAIT to see the Hokies get destroyed by Louisiana State

yeah, i can't take a year of people making them some inspirational story because of the shootings.

[TheGameHHH]

im pretty sure Notre Dame has let up more sacks in the past two games (13) then they've gained in rushing yards (11). thats sad.

[sailor]

im pretty sure Notre Dame has let up more sacks in the past two games (13) then they've gained in rushing yards (11). thats sad.

sad or delightful?

[El Mudo]

LSU is a DAMN good football team....wow. Second week in a row i've watched them, and I'm really impressed with them


Right now, I can't see ANYONE beating them...even Southern Cal. I mean, for one thing, all their big games (Arkansas, Florida, Auburn, South Carolina) are in Baton Rouge, and the only really tough road trip they have to make is to Alabama (although that Kentucky game could be a trap potentially)

[TheGameHHH]

LSU is a DAMN good football team....wow. Second week in a row i've watched them, and I'm really impressed with them


Right now, I can't see ANYONE beating them...even Southern Cal. I mean, for one thing, all their big games (Arkansas, Florida, Auburn, South Carolina) are in Baton Rouge, and the only really tough road trip they have to make is to Alabama (although that Kentucky game could be a trap potentially)

agreed, after watching the first two weeks i have to say my bet for national champion is LSU. even though the BCS will fuck it up somehow and put USC and Ohio St in the title game.

[Bama]

South Florida has the worst kicker in the history of the universe. He's missed 4 kicks now. Dude just missed a 21 yarder!

Auburn has no business winning this game.

[Bama]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!

I Love South Florida!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grothe For Heisman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[zen]

I agree. PITIFUL showing by Auburn. Cox should be shot. We'll still have no trouble beating Alabama though. Anxiously awaiting win #6

[led37zep]

Go ducks!

[sailor]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!

I Love South Florida!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grothe For Heisman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so, unranked big east team beats ranked sec team ya say? hmmm, interesting.

and does that make it 5 candidates, matty?

[Bama]

so, unranked big east team beats ranked sec team ya say? hmmm, interesting.

and does that make it 5 candidates, matty?

Big East fans can gloat all they want. This was totally worth it.


P.S. You forgot to mention that it was in Auburn's house.

[sailor]

Big East fans can gloat all they want. This was totally worth it.


P.S. You forgot to mention that it was in Auburn's house.

not gloating at all, just looking for a shred of respect. (i've also liked 'bama for over 30 years so i enjoyed the auburn loss for its own sake.)

[Mr.Pants]

I'm gloating.

[J.Clints]

My Buckeyes 2-0

[weekapaugjz]

hahahahahaha. fuck notre dame! penn state rules!

[weekapaugjz]

My Buckeyes 2-0

yeah, well who can't beat youngstown state and akron in two consectutive weeks?

[JimBeam]

They did say at some point that w/ the sacks ND had either zero or negative rushing yards in the 2 games.

Another stat was that this is the first time EVER that both ND and Mich are 0-2 at the same time.

I didnt see much of the ND game although I did hear some of it on the radio.

What I did see was 2 receivers dropping consecutive passes in the end zone when ND needed something to make the game respectable.

In defense of the 2nd guy the pass was a little high but Clausen had just avoided a sack when he threw it.

When you're floundering somebody's gotta step up and make a play.

As far as LSU being the best thing since sliced bread after beating Miss St and probably an over-rated Va Tech team let's see them get through the rest of their SEC schedule.

Keep in mind that historically UF has had no problems going into BR and beating LSU.

While the Auburn loss was huge for them and big for USF, and the Big East, it again goes to show you that there are some teams in the Big East that are willing to go play teams in the top half of the BCS conferences.

USF can schedule Auburn but Rutgers is too proud to travel unless Auburn guarantees them a home game in return ?

[weekapaugjz]

Another stat was that this is the first time EVER that both ND and Mich are 0-2 at the same time.

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[JimBeam]

All I'm saying right now is ND is gonna roll that final 4 games of the season.

Woo Hoo !!

Look out Navy, Air Force, Duke and Stanford !!

Duke and Stanford ?? Wasn't Vandy available too ?

Oh and again back to the difficulty in Big East teams scheduling games agaist BCS conferences Cincy scheduled and beat an Or St team that was 10-4 last year.

Syracuse has also played teams from the PAC 10 and Big 10 w/ the PAC 10 team coming cross country for the game.

[razorboy]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!

I Love South Florida!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grothe For Heisman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As a proud graduate of Terrorist U, I couldn't be any happier.

[Tenbatsuzen]

so, unranked big east team beats ranked sec team ya say? hmmm, interesting.

and does that make it 5 candidates, matty?

I said USF was a very dangerous team. They gave Rutgers a run for their money last year.

[JPMNICK]

Appalachian State has 17 more votes in the coaches poll than Florida State.

Up until this week they were not even allowed to be counted because of the division they play in. they just changed the rules.

when is bobby bowden going to retire so someone can get that program back on track.

And who is snatching up all these florida recruits. Miami and FSU suck this year so far, and Florida can not be taking them all

[Tenbatsuzen]

And who is snatching up all these florida recruits. Miami and FSU suck this year so far, and Florida can not be taking them all

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[cougarjake13]

Appalachian State has 17 more votes in the coaches poll than Florida State.

Up until this week they were not even allowed to be counted because of the division they play in. they just changed the rules.

when is bobby bowden going to retire so someone can get that program back on track.

And who is snatching up all these florida recruits. Miami and FSU suck this year so far, and Florida can not be taking them all


maybe usf, ga tech, lsu ???

[JPMNICK]

maybe usf, ga tech, lsu ???

yea def LSU, good call.

but who would go play for USF when you can play for Miami or FSU?

[cougarjake13]

yea def LSU, good call.

but who would go play for USF when you can play for Miami or FSU?

well i wasnt thinking the big prospects

but maybe the 2nd and 3rd tier level guys who'd rather start then be 2nd or 3rd string at miami or fsu