2007-2008 College Football Season

[PhishHead]

Rutgers is stealing a ton of Florida recruits since Schiano took over since he has the florida connection.

[Tenbatsuzen]

yea def LSU, good call.

but who would go play for USF when you can play for Miami or FSU?

Because ballers aren't stupid. USF is a school on the rise when Miami and FSU has been declining. You have a better chance to be visible - and therefore get into the NFL - playing for a good program than one that's relying on it's prestige from the 80's and 90's.

[El Mudo]

yea def LSU, good call.

but who would go play for USF when you can play for Miami or FSU?


LSU gets most of their kids from Louisiana (but they also do very well in Mississippi, which is why both of those schools in Mississippi proper suck now, and they get some good kids out of Texas)

The problem as I see it is:

1) There used to be three taps going into Florida for talent...Miami, FSU, and Florida. Now pretty much EVERYONE gets Florida talent...even some of the lesser programs in D1 get Florida people because of the proliferation of the staffs of those universities now spread throughout the country (Spurrier at South Carolina, Chuck Amato when he was at NCState, Mark Richt at Georgia)

2) Miami is NOTORIOUS for having poo poo facilities, and I think that's coming back to haunt them on that front. And I also think FSU is being KILLED by Florida on recruiting, because (a) Urban Meyer is a hell of a recruiter and (b) the SEC is a much better conference to play in than the SEC in terms of getting kids ready for the pros, and the fan bases are better there than in the ACC

3)I dont think "Florida talent" is as good as everyone thinks it is. Do they have good football players? Yes, they do. But at this point, I'm thinking the best football players are coming out of Texas, California, Louisiana, Ohio and Pennsylvania in that order. I just think that in terms of what ive seen in recent years, the players from Florida haven't been as good as the players from those states, ESPECIALLY Texas



JimBeam, you raise some good points about LSU. They may not have been playing top tier teams, but LSU DAMN sure looked like a great football team. I see really no holes for them either on defense (lots of seniors, two amazing players in Ali Highsmith and Glenn Dorsey, who will probably both be top 10 picks, and Chevis Jackson might be a top 10-20 pick too), or on offense (Matt Flynn is athletic, has experience even though its his first year starting, and besides, Ryan Perilloux is a superstar in waiting that verbally committed to Texas and then came to LSU, which makes him one of my heroes, and Keiland Williams and Jacob Hester are really good backs, plus I LOVE what ive seen out of Brandon Lafell, never mind that Early Doucet guy who's got a good chance to be ANOTHER top 10 pick)

[JimBeam]

The thing w/ the recruits from the state of FL is that there are only so many spots to fill on any team, including the Big 3, and players nowadays would rather play at smaller schools than sit the bench for 1 or 2 years at the big schools.

That's why we have so much more parity these days.

But dont be fooled. In the end the talent and skill that the bigger schools get will allow them to win games against these other schools at a very high percentage.

For example one 5 star RB going to say Central Florida doenst mean they can go into FSU and win on a consistent basis because FSU will have not only several 5 star players but many more 3 and 4 star athletes. Those are the players that make the difference over 4 quarters.

Also not matter how great a program is right now it only takes 1 or 2 so-so classes to slow them down a bit.

With the " powerhouses " most recruiting is still very regional w/ schools getting 98% of their players in state and possibly stealing a few good players from a neighboring one.

You wont see an LSU or a USC looking into NY or NJ for many players unless they have a good reason.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

That Alvarado (Kicker for South Florida) is prbably the Worst Place Kicker Ever, Good Win for South Florida, The Big East needs wins like this to make up for Jobbers like Syracuse.


The Bearcats also Looked very good

:king:

[led37zep]

How about we give the Ducks some respect for being ranked 19th by the AP?

[Da Fish]

2) Miami is NOTORIOUS for having poo poo facilities, and I think that's coming back to haunt them on that front. And I also think FSU is being KILLED by Florida on recruiting, because (a) Urban Meyer is a hell of a recruiter and (b) the SEC is a much better conference to play in than the SEC in terms of getting kids ready for the pros, and the fan bases are better there than in the ACC




It also helps that Florida has beaten FSU the last three seasons(two at FSU)

[King Hippos Bandaid]

All Teams in the Big East are 2-0 cept Syracuse, Boy they Blow since Mcnabb Left

:king:

[JPMNICK]

It also helps that Florida has beaten FSU the last three seasons(two at FSU)

FSU has been on a 4-5 year downturn.

[Freakshow]

Rutgers is stealing a ton of Florida recruits since Schiano took over since he has the florida connection.

And the Florida schools return the favor by stealing the better guys from NJ. Well, the ones that Penn State, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, etc. haven't already grabbed. You forget how powrful the appeal of going south is to kinds from the cold north. "you mean it's 85 degrees year round? Sign me up."

I know it's pretty early but Penn State has a defense for the ages. As soon as they get AJ Wallace in at the second corner. Of course, he's playing the nickel and is returning kickoffs, so it's all good.

I'm surprised the 'offensive genius' Weis could have come up with something that would work against the defense. The best play he could come up with was swing passes hoping that guys would miss tackles. Here is a secret: They don't. Not in the past 3 or 4 years.

[JimBeam]

Yeah and as I posted yeaterday the 2 losses that the Big East has are by Syrcuse which is the only team to play 2 teams from a major BCS conference.

Credit for the Or St and Auburn wins but the other 12 wins are as weak as they come.

Miami's actually going to be getting a new stadium in the next few years.

The whole Miami/UF/FSU thing is cyclical.

There are points in the last 20 years where 1 had the advantage over the others and that will always be a shifting scale.

All it takes is a coach putting his eggs in one basket and that could hurt him.

I think you may see that this year w/ UF when they start Tebow for a full year.
He's energetic on the ground but can he beat an LSU or a Tenn when/if he needs to pass ?

We shall see.

[El Mudo]

And the Florida schools return the favor by stealing the better guys from NJ. Well, the ones that Penn State, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, etc. haven't already grabbed. You forget how powrful the appeal of going south is to kinds from the cold north. "you mean it's 85 degrees year round? Sign me up."

I know it's pretty early but Penn State has a defense for the ages. As soon as they get AJ Wallace in at the second corner. Of course, he's playing the nickel and is returning kickoffs, so it's all good.

I'm surprised the 'offensive genius' Weis could have come up with something that would work against the defense. The best play he could come up with was swing passes hoping that guys would miss tackles. Here is a secret: They don't. Not in the past 3 or 4 years.




Maryland does great in Jersey recruiting wise...thats where most of our better players come from (Lance Ball, Danny Oquendo, Alex Wujiciak, Isaiah Weeums, Tony Logan etc)

[Da Fish]

I think you may see that this year w/ UF when they start Tebow for a full year.
He's energetic on the ground but can he beat an LSU or a Tenn when/if he needs to pass ?

We shall see.

We will see on Sat.

Tenn at UF

[sailor]

2) Miami is NOTORIOUS for having poo poo facilities, and I think that's coming back to haunt them on that front. And I also think FSU is being KILLED by Florida on recruiting, because (a) Urban Meyer is a hell of a recruiter and (b) the SEC is a much better conference to play in than the SEC in terms of getting kids ready for the pros, and the fan bases are better there than in the ACC


if this were true, why would so many of their former players (http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/73272) go there to work out?

[sailor]

Yeah and as I posted yeaterday the 2 losses that the Big East has are by Syrcuse which is the only team to play 2 teams from a major BCS conference.

Credit for the Or St and Auburn wins but the other 12 wins are as weak as they come.


wouldn't you have more fun being pro-your team than anti-big east?

[underdog]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1337/1360331300_f675d288d9_o.jpg

This is an Alabama player literally getting the number knocked off his helmet.

Taken from Uni Watch (http://www.uniwatchblog.com).

[El Mudo]

if this were true, why would so many of their former players (http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/73272) go there to work out?


Wasn't me who made/has made the claims...Just repeating what ive heard. It was something that the media really played up during the end of the whole Coker era


And facilities mean more that just training stuff...stadiums, dorms, things like that

[Freitag]

The whole Miami/UF/FSU thing is cyclical.



So it's OK for Miami/UF/FSU, but it's NOT ok for Rutgers/Louisville/WVU, with the only different being that the Big East Teams have only about a "quarter" of the tradition that he Floridian teams have?

[Freakshow]

if this were true, why would so many of their former players (http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/73272) go there to work out?

Because fomer players love going back to their school. They always show people on the sidelines during games--if you watched the PSU-ND game, LaVar Arrington was at the game. He might be at all of them now, he has a lot of time on his hands.

And to your original point, Miami doesn't need to update their facilities because they have those big name former players at their facilities. Most people pitch recruits with 'look how great our work out room is,' etc... And that impresses people. Miami pitches recruits by putting them in between Willis McGahee and Edgerin James. And then look over there--it's Clinton Portis and Sean Taylor. Wow, Frank Gore just walked in. (you get the point) And the former players don't care. I mean how much you can improve on a bench press? It's all weights to them, hell, they've used those facilities for years, probably feels like home to them. Regardless of how bad condition they are in.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Dear Mudo:

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- Matty

[El Mudo]

Dear Mudo:

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- Matty




Offense crapped the bed...we did a pretty good job on D most of the night. I could understand the point of the gameplan (keep WV off the field), but it did come off as being a little too conservative. And i really think they should have just kept pounding Lattimore instead of flipping him in and out with Ball, who was pretty ineffective. Keion killed them on the stretch runs all night. No offense generated through the air...not a whiff. That HAS to change as the season goes on. Its a shame the whole team has to suffer because Josh Portis decided to cheat on a stupid quiz.

It wasn't as big as the final score indicated...this was a REALLY close game

[El Mudo]

Too many turnovers and wasted opportunities too. The fumble on the very first play was inexcusable, and it led to a TD. Lost points right before halftime too when he tried to go for the Josh Allen Play, but Steffy made a bad throw.


And that very last drive at the end of the game after the onside kick was just pathetic to the point of being depressing

And speaking of depressing, why couldn't Erin Andrews show up when I went to school at Maryland?????

[kayakthis]

What legacy of NCAA football is there in the north east? I grew up in NH, went to Ohio State and live here still.. but, c'mon.. the only thing I can recall is Doug Flutie, BC and the Flutie to Phelan 84 Orange Bowl miracle.... yay...

Rutgers? This too shall pass.....

[El Mudo]

What legacy of NCAA football is there in the north east? I grew up in NH, went to Ohio State and live here still.. but, c'mon.. the only thing I can recall is Doug Flutie, BC and the Flutie to Phelan 84 Orange Bowl miracle.... yay...

Rutgers? This too shall pass.....


Well, Rutgers DID participate in the very first college football game ever played

[JimBeam]

Big day for the 0-2's.

ND has got to win this game just so that I can hear Mike Hart explain why he didn't win after guranteeing a victory.

For some reason I'm also casually interested in the USC/Neb game.

A lot of talk about how good USC's defense is so I'd like to see it.

It's early but Buffalo is up 3-0 on Penn St.

[Bama]

Mississippi State > Auburn

In Auburns house!!!!!

Greatest. College. Football. Season. Ever.

[BoondockSaint]

ND looks fan-fucking-tastic.

[JimBeam]

Nothing like spotting Mich 10-0.

I just read that the QB that started the opener has transfered to Northern Illinois.

[sailor]

Nothing like spotting Mich 10-0.

I just read that the QB that started the opener has transfered to Northern Illinois.

nice upgrade.

[sailor]

given what has happened so far in the year, how bad IS notre dame?

[JPMNICK]

given what has happened so far in the year, how bad IS notre dame?

i was just coming here to ask this same question

still no touchdowns?

[JimBeam]

And I can't even say that we're using a freshman QB because Mich is doing the same.

[Fezticle98]

I'm laughing while envisioning Dave, Fez and Sheepy watching the game together. Dave is getting more drunk and bitter as Michigan rolls up the points. What an abortion of a game.

[JPMNICK]

-45 yeard rushing in the 1st half for ND

that's a negative sign in front of the 45

[PhishHead]

-45 yeard rushing in the 1st half for ND

that's a negative sign in front of the 45

Rushing stats for college teams are deceiving because they include sacks, in reality they have rushed for 38 yards, still horrible but its not negative.

Our O-line is young and horrible and definitely needs to improve there is always 3-4 guys right in Jimmys face as soon as he drops back.

[Da Fish]

Gators Stomp Vols

59-20

[PhilDeez]

Bama looks good, still don't think they can sniff the jocks of LSU or Florida.
Look out ACC, T-Rod is on the loose!

[lleeder]

So Dave is out 500, Fez is bald and Earl is Mr. Perfect again?

[epo]

So Dave is out 500, Fez is bald and Earl is Mr. Perefect again?

Tyrone Willingham must be looking good in South Bend these days huh?

Good, fuck Notre Dame.

[led37zep]

Oregon is DOMINATING Fresno State right now. 6-28 early in the 2nd.

[PhilDeez]

Tyrone Willingham must be looking good in South Bend these days huh?

Good, fuck Notre Dame.

Hilarious. They ran him out after basically the same seasons that ole failed stapled stomach has had; yet Weis gets a 10 year deal. Weird. I admit, I hate ND, and yes it probably stems from jealousy somewhere deep inside, but who cares they suck this year. I was thrilled to see the chosen one suck it up again this week.
Did you hear Brad Nesseler call him out in the 3rd quarter? He made a reference to Clausen's commitment speech at the college football HOF where he stated he is here to win 4 national titles. HA.

[PhishHead]

Hilarious. They ran him out after basically the same seasons that ole failed stapled stomach has had; yet Weis gets a 10 year deal. Weird. I admit, I hate ND, and yes it probably stems from jealousy somewhere deep inside, but who cares they suck this year. I was thrilled to see the chosen one suck it up again this week.
Did you hear Brad Nesseler call him out in the 3rd quarter? He made a reference to Clausen's commitment speech at the college football HOF where he stated he is here to win 4 national titles. HA.

This is not coming from being an ND fan, which I am. But if I am the top recruit in the nation and announcing my plans to attend wherever it was I am going I would say we are going to win 4 National Titles as well, almost every single big recruit does it, people just dont know it cause they dont follow signing day. Ryan Mallet did the same thing and said he is coming Michigan (not 4 but said he wants to win National Titles every year). Why go to a school if you arent there to win 4 national titles?

[underdog]

Hilarious. They ran him out after basically the same seasons that ole failed stapled stomach has had; yet Weis gets a 10 year deal. Weird. I admit, I hate ND, and yes it probably stems from jealousy somewhere deep inside, but who cares they suck this year. I was thrilled to see the chosen one suck it up again this week.
Did you hear Brad Nesseler call him out in the 3rd quarter? He made a reference to Clausen's commitment speech at the college football HOF where he stated he is here to win 4 national titles. HA.

The difference between Weis and Willingham is supposedly recruiting. Weis had one of the best classes this year, so hopefully they give him time before throwing him out.

I hope he has offensive linemen in those recruiting classes, though.

[PhilDeez]

This is not coming from being an ND fan, which I am. But if I am the top recruit in the nation and announcing my plans to attend wherever it was I am going I would say we are going to win 4 National Titles as well, almost every single big recruit does it, people just dont know it cause they dont follow signing day. Ryan Mallet did the same thing and said he is coming Michigan (not 4 but said he wants to win National Titles every year). Why go to a school if you arent there to win 4 national titles?

Agreed, but not so over the top "I am going to win 4". Some rational thinking would have been nice, he comes from a football family - a family of flops may I add - so he should have known better. Also, he shows up to the speech, wearing all of his high school title rings to show off- great - but he has to take the heat after another sub par performance. Yes his o-line sucks and he has no running game, yada yada yada.

[PhishHead]

The difference between Weis and Willingham is supposedly recruiting. Weis had one of the best classes this year, so hopefully they give him time before throwing him out.

I hope he has offensive linemen in those recruiting classes, though.

last years recruiting class, the one with Clausen, 4 Offensive linemen, some were very good at HS. Our Oline is just very young, last year we had 4 seniors and 1 true freshman, so its hard to replace 4 linemen and not expect some kind of drop off plus that 1 true freshman freaking sucks now apparently. Yes our new center is still a center, but obviously is having lots of problems with snaps.

This years recruiting class, the OL we have already gotten commits from are pretty good, Braxston Cave, Mike Golic, a couple others but they also tend to move people around alot.

and as of right now ND has the #1 recruiting class this year.

[sailor]

This years recruiting class, the OL we have already gotten commits from are pretty good, Braxston Cave, Mike Golic, a couple others but they also tend to move people around alot.


any relation?

[PhishHead]

any relation?

yea it is his son

[sailor]

yea it is his son

considering he went there as well, i wouldn't give that credit to the coach.

[Marc with a c]

considering he went there as well, i wouldn't give that credit to the coach.

edit: terrible joke, carry on

[lleeder]

edit: terrible joke, carry on

:thumbdown:

[BoondockSaint]

John David Booty is a stupid name.

[Marc with a c]

:thumbdown:

sorry mr. pro villone

[sailor]

sorry mr. pro villone

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/09/wvdingleberry.jpg

[epo]

The difference between Weis and Willingham is supposedly recruiting. Weis had one of the best classes this year, so hopefully they give him time before throwing him out.

I hope he has offensive linemen in those recruiting classes, though.

It's a good thing this is Charlie Weis' first recruiting class then....oh wait....he's pretty much playing with players he recruited....as the excuses begin to disappear.

[Da Fish]

I can't listen to Nick Saban talk. I always think he's lying.:devil2:

[Bama]

My entire apartment complex now knows that Bama won that game.

Holy Shit! That was AWESOME!

Nick Saban is the most underpaid coach in America.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I went to the Rutgers game today with my wife.

The last time I went to a Rutgers football game, they got blown out in a nighttime ESPN game to Texas. Ooof.

Anyway, I left at halftime. Rutgers had rolled to a huge lead and it wasn't going to get any better from there.

The seats were fucking magnificent though. I was DEAD CENTER ON the 50 yard line.

[Da Fish]

Nick Saban is the most underpaid coach in America.

:laugh:

[JPMNICK]

the problem with ND has been said a bunch of times, but they have to high of academic standards for their kids. you actually have to be able to write a complete sentence to go there unlike a lot of other schools where they bend/break every rule possible to let these kids in

[PhishHead]

the problem with ND has been said a bunch of times, but they have to high of academic standards for their kids. you actually have to be able to write a complete sentence to go there unlike a lot of other schools where they bend/break every rule possible to let these kids in

plus they hate taking juco transfers

[JPMNICK]

plus they hate taking juco transfers

yea i am not sure i agree with that, i think that is a real disservice to the team. i like the academic standards though. i think more schools should be raising the bar instead of lowering it and making excuses.

[PhishHead]

yea i am not sure i agree with that, i think that is a real disservice to the team. i like the academic standards though. i think more schools should be raising the bar instead of lowering it and making excuses.

yes i completely agree with the academic standards i think its the one bright spot of our team, at least our players can read. One of the major reasons Urban Meyer did not come here was because he wanted ND Admissions to accept all his Juco transfers and they flat out said no unless they have the grades and scores to back it up, which of course they don't.

I think you should accept JUCO transfers as long they have the grades and scores and are a good fit not jsut everyone. Yea ND does lose alot of top recruits because of grades.

[TheGameHHH]

PhishHead, is it now time to call for the head of Weis? After all its his 3rd season isn't it? He's starting it worse then Ty isn't he? Is he not the offensive mastermind we all thought he was?

[epo]

You Notre Dame fans do realize that you haven't won a bowl game since 1994....when Lou Holtz was head coach?


P.S. Charlie Weis stinks.

[underdog]

It's a good thing this is Charlie Weis' first recruiting class then....oh wait....he's pretty much playing with players he recruited....as the excuses begin to disappear.

I'm not a ND fan, so I'm not homering or anything, but if this were Weis's recruiting class, they'd all be freshmen, right? And not very experienced? Let his recruiting classes actually mature a bit before he's fired.

But I think they should do that with all college coaches. If they aren't there for 4 or 5 years, you really have no idea what he could be.

[epo]

I'm not a ND fan, so I'm not homering or anything, but if this were Weis's recruiting class, they'd all be freshmen, right? And not very experienced? Let his recruiting classes actually mature a bit before he's fired.

But I think they should do that with all college coaches. If they aren't there for 4 or 5 years, you really have no idea what he could be.

I was being a pure smartass on that one. He should be working off of his third recruiting class this season. If he is the shits from this point on....it's purely on his own merit.

[commish13]

I went to the Rutgers game today with my wife.

The last time I went to a Rutgers football game, they got blown out in a nighttime ESPN game to Texas. Ooof.

Anyway, I left at halftime. Rutgers had rolled to a huge lead and it wasn't going to get any better from there.

The seats were fucking magnificent though. I was DEAD CENTER ON the 50 yard line.

Heh... the Texas game back in '99 was the first RU game I ever went to. The stadium was packed and it was 90% Texas fans. I've had season tickets to Rutgers since that season, and I really, really resent the new "fans" who come to the games now. They're fucking horrible. So many people don't come to watch a football game. They come to walk around the stadium for the whole game looking for their friends and standing in front of me. They come to do the awful fucking wave. They come to play with a beach ball. The parents just let their 7 year old kids run around the stadium all alone. It's horrible.

It felt great sitting in the stadium for the second half, especially the fourth quarter. The place cleared out and it felt like it did in the old days when the crowd was only a few thousand strong for an entire game. It's great to see the team I've been following since I was 8 years old finally being very successful, but it's bittersweet because the douchebags who come to the games really make it hard to enjoy.

[sailor]

Heh... the Texas game back in '99 was the first RU game I ever went to. The stadium was packed and it was 90% Texas fans. I've had season tickets to Rutgers since that season, and I really, really resent the new "fans" who come to the games now. They're fucking horrible. So many people don't come to watch a football game. They come to walk around the stadium for the whole game looking for their friends and standing in front of me. They come to do the awful fucking wave. They come to play with a beach ball. The parents just let their 7 year old kids run around the stadium all alone. It's horrible.

It felt great sitting in the stadium for the second half, especially the fourth quarter. The place cleared out and it felt like it did in the old days when the crowd was only a few thousand strong for an entire game. It's great to see the team I've been following since I was 8 years old finally being very successful, but it's bittersweet because the douchebags who come to the games really make it hard to enjoy.

you sure you're not talking about turner field in atlanta? and yes, anyone who does the wave is a cunt (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1457757#post1457757).

[JimBeam]

ND shouldn't take JUCO transfers just to make them a better football team.

The only disservice it is is to the players who commited to go their for 4 years and did and do what they need to to stay eligible.

I don't have the exact numbers though I remember reading them when Willingham had gotten fired but at one point Willingham had lost more games by 20+ points ( actually I think it was mid to high 20s ) and had allowed 40+ points by the opponent in more games than any of the previous coaches combined.

Now Weis has taken his lumps in the 2 BCS games ( and obvioulsy yesterday ) but I don't think it's anywhere near Willingham's numbers.

I'm making a t-shirt that says something along the lines of " Ntre Ame .... they don't have an O or D so why should I ??!! "

[Fezticle98]

My entire apartment complex now knows that Bama won that game.

Holy Shit! That was AWESOME!

Nick Saban is the most underpaid coach in America.

Suddenly, I am not looking forward to the FSU-Bama matchup in Jacksonville in 2 weeks. I'm looking forward even less to going into the swamp at the end of the season.

Did anyone catch the USC-Nebraska game? That WR for Neb, Purify, got 2 DUIs over the summer and got a 1 game suspension? What a dirty prick Bill Callahan is. They deserved to get their shit handed to them.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Heh... the Texas game back in '99 was the first RU game I ever went to. The stadium was packed and it was 90% Texas fans. I've had season tickets to Rutgers since that season, and I really, really resent the new "fans" who come to the games now. They're fucking horrible. So many people don't come to watch a football game. They come to walk around the stadium for the whole game looking for their friends and standing in front of me. They come to do the awful fucking wave. They come to play with a beach ball. The parents just let their 7 year old kids run around the stadium all alone. It's horrible.

It felt great sitting in the stadium for the second half, especially the fourth quarter. The place cleared out and it felt like it did in the old days when the crowd was only a few thousand strong for an entire game. It's great to see the team I've been following since I was 8 years old finally being very successful, but it's bittersweet because the douchebags who come to the games really make it hard to enjoy.

As stated before, I fully embrace the fact that I support Rutgers because of my wife, but my allegiance is with WVU.

And Commish, I'm not sure where you went to school, but a lot of college games are just filled with Students looking for their friends.

[Tenbatsuzen]

And BTW, with Louisville and UCLA being upset, there's a VERY good chance that Rutgers will be top-10 ranked when the new polls come out.

[JimBeam]

I watched a lot of the USC/Nebraska game and the announcing was bad.

I mean I like Herbstreit, he knows his stuff, and usually Musberger is tollerable but there were times when they missed whole plays.

This was mostly due to ABC wanting to interview Clarence Thomas but while the reporter was talking to him they could've been doing the game.

There was a time when it was 3rd and 20 for Nebraska from their own 5 and from what I saw they threw an incomplete pass and it should've been 4th an 20.

Next thing you know Nebraska has the ball 1st and 10 from the 20.

There was never any mention of what happened.

Now I think it must've been a roughing the QB call because at one point later they showed a USC defender and then showed the Neb QB but it was never confirmed on air.

To be honest watching the play live it didn't look like they had even gotten a hit on him let alone roughed him.

I was also disappointed in the score. To anybody who didnt watch the game and only sees the final score it looks like Nebraska was competetive but I can assure you that they weren't.

It was 42-10 at one point and that was after Neb was up 10-7.

I don't know if USC is as good as they looked but their RBs were running threw huge holes.

That defense looked good too as they were just pushing around the Neb O-line early.

[Fezticle98]

I knew it was over for Nebraska when they had Larry the Cable Guy announcing their starting lineups. Reggie Bush > Larry The Cable Guy.

Actually, I knew it was over before that when USC had 50 and 40 yard runs on 2 of its first 3 plays. There are just some moments when a difference in speed is starkly evident, and those were a couple of them.

[JimBeam]

Yeah Neb had some momentum as they had put USC back @ their own 5 for the first possesion but nothing like a 50 yard run from scrimmage by the FB to take some wind out of the sails.

Then one of the 15 RBs rips off a 40+ run.

Not only was the Larry The Cable Guy thing stupid but he's still using his tired catch phrase.

Maybe Foxworthy will do a game one day and use his old " You might be a .... " schtick.

While we're on announcers I couldnt hep but notice a lot of pissiness in the voice of Maguire during the ND game. Here's a guy who's supposed to be unbiased and he was just tearing into them. I mean I know it's his job to analyze and point things out but the way he was doing it made it seem personal.

[commish13]

And BTW, with Louisville and UCLA being upset, there's a VERY good chance that Rutgers will be top-10 ranked when the new polls come out.

Close. I guaranteed number 10, but they're 11. Good enough for me.

As stated before, I fully embrace the fact that I support Rutgers because of my wife, but my allegiance is with WVU.

And Commish, I'm not sure where you went to school, but a lot of college games are just filled with Students looking for their friends.

I'm at Iona, which is a small school. We're I-AA, and we're actually 3-0 right now, which is cool. I'm aware that it's just a social event for a lot of people, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't be crotchety about it. It's fucking annoying and they should just go out to a party somewhere instead of ruining the fun of people who are there to see a team they actually give a fuck about.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Heh... the Texas game back in '99 was the first RU game I ever went to. The stadium was packed and it was 90% Texas fans. I've had season tickets to Rutgers since that season, and I really, really resent the new "fans" who come to the games now. They're fucking horrible. So many people don't come to watch a football game. They come to walk around the stadium for the whole game looking for their friends and standing in front of me. They come to do the awful fucking wave. They come to play with a beach ball. The parents just let their 7 year old kids run around the stadium all alone. It's horrible.

It felt great sitting in the stadium for the second half, especially the fourth quarter. The place cleared out and it felt like it did in the old days when the crowd was only a few thousand strong for an entire game. It's great to see the team I've been following since I was 8 years old finally being very successful, but it's bittersweet because the douchebags who come to the games really make it hard to enjoy.

You know, Spoon brought up a good point in the "Douchebag Rutgers Fans" thread, and it's valid to bring up here.

There is no such thing as a bandwagon college football fan if you actually, you know, go to the school and/or went to the school.

The bandwagon fans are people who have never gone to the school and/or have zero relations to the school whatsoever (family members who go). I'm looking at you, East Side Dave.

JUST BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN NEW JERSEY DOES NOT MAKE YOU ENTITLED TO BE A RUTGERS FAN. I grew up in a Rutgers household. Even though I didn't go there (grades weren't good enough and then when I was getting ready to transfer, my father specifically requested that I not go there)

You can't berate Rutgers student fans for liking the team because they have been doing well since Schiano came on board. You just can't. Rutgers has set the bar for crappy college football for 20+ years.

[mdr55]

I used to go to Rutgers Newark.



Go Rutgers!!!!

[commish13]

I have no problem, and never have had a problem, with bandwagon fans. If people are going to start going to the games to WATCH them, then I'm cool with that. It doesn't matter if they didn't even know Rutgers had a football team. My problem is with the people who go to the games and then proceed to do everything BUT watch the game. And that's a lot of people, especially those around me.

I'm just used to going to the games in the years where 2 wins was a godsend and I could have an entire section of the stadium to myself. Not that that is what is best, and I'm more than elated that Rutgers is finally becoming a real football team. I love getting to go to a packed, loud stadium and to see it on TV.

I just don't like people who go to the games and spend all of their time paying attention to anything that isn't the game. And coming to talk to their friends and standing right in front of me as plays are happening down on the field. 3 games this year and I'm already fucking tired of saying "hey, sit down, I'm trying to watch the game".

[Dudeman]

the college football polls are fucking rediculous.

rutgers beats norfolk st. and moves up in the polls.
nebraska loses to usc and moves down in the polls.

does anyone think if those teams swapped opponents, rutgers wouldn't have lost and nebraska wouldnt have won

[TheGameHHH]

nice little article over on the front page of ESPN by Pat Forde. some quotes about the Irish:

"Of course all the accountability for Notre Dame's historic offensive collapse rests with Ty Willingham. The Dash deeply regrets not coming to that conclusion last week. It doesn't matter how many three-and-outs occur on the watch of the current head coach; just blame it on the last one."

"In keeping with September revisionist history, Notre Dame fans have unearthed evidence that Hurricane Katrina, high gas prices and defaulted home loans also are directly attributable to Willingham's tenure in South Bend, Ind."

I'm glad somebody else realizes that majority of this blame should be laid on Weis.

[El Mudo]

I dont think there should be ANY blame placed on anyone...ESPECIALLY Weis


They just hit a gap in recruiting...it happens, and itll work itself out again as the new kids theyve brought in get older. But ND fans also have to realize that they just aren't a superpower any more. They have the name, but in terms of recruiting, they can't compete with the Texases, LSUs, Southern Cals, and Oklahomas any more, so theyre going to have seasons like this where the team is full of kids that just aren't ready to play yet

[TheGameHHH]

I dont think there should be ANY blame placed on anyone...ESPECIALLY Weis


They just hit a gap in recruiting...it happens, and itll work itself out again as the new kids theyve brought in get older. But ND fans also have to realize that they just aren't a superpower any more. They have the name, but in terms of recruiting, they can't compete with the Texases, LSUs, Southern Cals, and Oklahomas any more, so theyre going to have seasons like this where the team is full of kids that just aren't ready to play yet

i disagree, and let me tell you why. I dont know how to post links here, so go over to foxsports.com and read Michael Rosenberg's column on Weis. I've been saying this for a few weeks now.....I'm a life-long, die hard ND fan and as a Jersey guy I'm also a huge fan of Weis. But things like this bother me, and this is from Rosenberg's article:

"Weis is supposed to be cut from the same mold as Bill Parcells, a Jersey guy with a big ego who builds championship teams. But Parcells would never have taken a new job and announced that his teams would have a "decided schematic advantage" against every opponent, as Weis did. Do you understand what Charlie Weis did? He took credit for winning before he even won."

that along with this, which sums up perfectly how I feel:

"Weis has brought in three recruiting classes. The first one was a transition class, but the last two were not. I think most Notre Dame fans understood the Fighting Irish would not be very good this year. But in your third year at Notre Dame, the team should at least be competitive."

[TheGameHHH]

and El Mudo, i do agree that they have kids that simply arent ready to play yet and that will work itself out in the future.......but you can't be this offensive genius and not put the ball in the end zone ONCE in 3 games. granted Weis is not that man out there making plays, he can't do it himself. but as a "genius" he should be able to design something that would lead the offensive to at least ONE score in 12 quarters

[Bama]

LOL Texas A&M

[El Mudo]

How does Javorskie Lane go an entire HALF without a touch? That completely boggles my mind. The guy is 6 feet 275 pounds!!!!!!!! (but not from Grenoble, France). It takes almost 4 guys to drag him down every play!!


If I was an A & M fan i'd demand Coach Franchione's job TODAY...

[Aggie]

I knew Bama would show his crimson face around here. Thanks for the bump.

Well, it's official. FIRE F'ING FRAN (and Coughlin) why are my teams so horrible this year.
:wallbash:

[Freitag]

the college football polls are fucking rediculous.

rutgers beats norfolk st. and moves up in the polls.
nebraska loses to usc and moves down in the polls.

does anyone think if those teams swapped opponents, rutgers wouldn't have lost and nebraska wouldnt have won

I don't understand what you're saying. The polls are ridiculous because Rutgers won their game and Nebraska lost and Rutgers moved up?

And then you're saying if Nebraska played Norfolk St. and Rutgers played USC, Nebraska would have lost and Rutgers would have won?

To answer your questions:

Louisville's loss, UCLA's loss, and Nebraska's loss is what helped Rutgers' bump in the standings. It wasn't just Nebraska.

And I like Rutgers, but even if Rutgers was playing USC at home, I'm not positive Rutgers would win. It's the "any given day" theory at work. It's why you play the game.

[buzzard]

Traditionally SC has more problems with the other schools in the PAC 10! and THAT starts tomorrow then we'll see how strong they are.though WSU is not currently a powerhouse,Willingham has goy UW playing some real in yer face shit! kinna makes Notre Dame look silly for letting him go with a 10-2 record.Beware The Oregon Ducks,they MIGHT be VERY good!

[Bama]

I knew Bama would show his crimson face around here. Thanks for the bump.

Well, it's official. FIRE F'ING FRAN (and Coughlin) why are my teams so horrible this year.
:wallbash:

WHAT????

Give Fran a contract extension!

LOL

[Aggie]

WHAT????

Give Fran a contract extension!

LOL

I really hate how much you're enjoying this. :surrender:

[Bama]

Leave Coach Fran Alone!!!!!!!!!!

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[Fezticle98]

I like Mr. Perfect's pick this week: South Carolina +16.5 @ LSU.

The fact that Fez picked against him should seal it.

No game for FSU this week and Hawaii is playing vs. 1AA Charleston Southern = Boring football Saturday for me. Any games worth watching besides Bama vs. UGa?

[El Mudo]

I like Mr. Perfect's pick this week: South Carolina +16.5 @ LSU.

The fact that Fez picked against him should seal it.

No game for FSU this week and Hawaii is playing vs. 1AA Charleston Southern = Boring football Saturday for me. Any games worth watching besides Bama vs. UGa?



South Carolina and LSU kick off in Baton Rouge about a half hour on CBS. That's going to be a pretty darn good game, as will Kentucky and Arkansas at 6pm. I'm going to hope someone picks up the Maryland game, or ill be forced to listen to it on the radio while I watch LSU/USC


Okay...Louisville officially SUCKS....theyre down by 17...yes...17 to Syracuse with about 10 minutes to go....and no, that is NOT a typo

[Bama]

I'm watching the Florida-Ole Miss game.

Wow, Florida is only leading by 3 with 11 minutes to go.

[JimBeam]

Recruiting is cyclical and ND does consistently get 5 star players evrey year regardless of how well they play because to many of those players the education is the difference.

Both USC and LSU sucked ( or more like light years different than they are now ) w/ recruting 10 years or so ago and everybody was going to FSU, Miami and Nebraska.

I think NDs chances of winning 6 games were aided by the apparent vulnerabilty of UCLA who are no longer being viewd as USC Jr.

ND will win those final 4 games of the season so all they have to do is pull an upset in 2 of the other games and they could get the 6 wins.

Outside of USC there's nobody left on the schedule that's frightening and that includes BC.

ND laid an egg in the Mich rivalry but tye'll play better against BC.

Hopefully !!

PS - why was Mich given so much credit for " rebounding " when they beat a lame ND team that's now 0-3 ?

[Bama]

South Carolina and LSU kick off in Baton Rouge about a half hour on CBS. That's going to be a pretty darn good game, as will Kentucky and Arkansas at 6pm. I'm going to hope someone picks up the Maryland game, or ill be forced to listen to it on the radio while I watch LSU/USC


Okay...Louisville officially SUCKS....theyre down by 17...yes...17 to Syracuse with about 10 minutes to go....and no, that is NOT a typo

Louisville just pulled within 3 with only a minute to go. Syracuse gets the ball now. Can they screw this up?

Edit: HAHA. Louisville's onside kick went 4 yards. Game over.

Edit 2: HAHAHA Louisville is embarrasing themselves. They're not letting Syracuse take a knee. Swatting at the ball before the snap and jumping off sides.

[Da Fish]

I'm watching the Florida-Ole Miss game.

Wow, Florida is only leading by 3 with 11 minutes to go.

Gators do win. SEC is a tough. The Gators made it hard on themselves with 122 penalty yards.

[El Mudo]

Louisville just pulled within 3 with only a minute to go. Syracuse gets the ball now. Can they screw this up?

Edit: HAHA. Louisville's onside kick went 4 yards. Game over.

Edit 2: HAHAHA Louisville is embarrasing themselves. They're not letting Syracuse take a knee. Swatting at the ball before the snap and jumping off sides.



Yeah!! I saw that and wondered what was going on...I had the tv down and the MD game on the radio so I had no idea...

What a bunch of jackoffs...you lost the goddamn game, take it like a man

[El Mudo]

Ryan Perriloux is going to be the next great QB in college football....In fact, I'm really not sure why he isn't playing every down right now.

[Bama]

Ryan Perriloux is going to be the next great QB in college football....In fact, I'm really not sure why he isn't playing every down right now.

They're not letting him throw. Maybe he can't.

[MHasegawa]

first a hidden ball trick, now a fake field goal for a TD. LSU is one of the most entertaining teams to watch.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Dear Brian Brohm:

Thank you for your interest. We wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors.

Sincerely,

The Heisman Trophy Committee.

[El Mudo]

They're not letting him throw. Maybe he can't.



People came into this season saying that about this guy

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/01/09/look.ahead/Tim_Tebow.jpg



And he can't do much WORSE than Flynn in the first half, who looked AWFUL throwing the football....granted, he had two or three drops, but he just had some terrible throws there

Trindon Holliday is hysterical...Id pay just to watch that guy run around all game

[Tenbatsuzen]

I don't think you guys realize how nostalgic I became watching the tailgating footage in front of Mountaineer Field.

Good times. Good times. Good memories.

[Bama]

I don't think you guys realize how nostalgic I became watching the tailgating footage in front of Mountaineer Field.

Good times. Good times. Good memories.

I felt that way during Gameday this morning.

[Bama]

People came into this season saying that about this guy

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/01/09/look.ahead/Tim_Tebow.jpg



And he can't do much WORSE than Flynn in the first half, who looked AWFUL throwing the football....granted, he had two or three drops, but he just had some terrible throws there

Trindon Holliday is hysterical...Id pay just to watch that guy run around all game

I was thinking that LSU is kind of using him like Tebow last year. Still don't know if he can throw though. Tebow is a once a generation kind of player. Periloux? Who knows.

[MHasegawa]

Fix The Fuckin Game Clock!

[El Mudo]

Terps driving against Wake up 24-3...bout to make it 31-3, on the Wake 3 yard line...


Of course, Wake gets an INT and takes it back for a TD the other way....




YEEESH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wallbash:

[Bama]

Does anyone in America have ESPNU?

It would be nice to have a chance to see more games.

[Bama]

LOL @ Notre Dame

[TheGameHHH]

im no longer all that angry at Weis, however i think that every play N.D. runs that goes for 0 or negative yards, the O line should be forced to run a 100 yard gasser. i swear to god my 17 year old sister could block better then these chumps.

[Bama]

This Penn State-Michigan game is getting interesting.

Penn State's gotta score a TD with a minute and a half to go.

Edit: Nevermind. Michigan still owns Penn State.

[underdog]

Ryan Perriloux is going to be the next great QB in college football....In fact, I'm really not sure why he isn't playing every down right now.

Wasn't he supposed to displace Vince Young and Jamarcus Russell?

[Fezticle98]

South Carolina 3 & goal. Down by 18, the spread is 16.5. C'mon Spurrier, FG for Earl!

[Bama]

South Carolina 3 & goal. Down by 18, the spread is 16.5. C'mon Spurrier, FG for Earl!

I saw the touchdown but now I'm in the dark.

Being forced to watch the stupid Auburn game. :wallbash:

[Fezticle98]

I was thinking that LSU is kind of using him like Tebow last year. Still don't know if he can throw though. Tebow is a once a generation kind of player. Periloux? Who knows.

How can Tebow be allowed to run the ball 27 times? Someone needs to step up and put a hurt on him.

[Ritalin]

Washington : 2-1
Notre Dame : 0-4

Fucking Holy Roller assholes!

Bwaaaahaaaahaaaahaaa!

[El Mudo]

Wasn't he supposed to displace Vince Young and Jamarcus Russell?



He's still very young at this point....but he was one of those super recruits (like Joe McKnight) who had everyone and their mother recruiting him (he originally committed to Texas before heading to LSU)



And we just lost our season down in Wake....leading 24-3 in the FOURTH QUARTER, and we lose in OT....I am completely pissed right now, especially at Jordan "Why don't I just turtle up here and take another sack, who needs a TD right now anyway" Steffy


And oh yeah...we have to travel to RUTGERS next week :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

[Bama]

OH. GOD. NO.

Holly Rowe is doing the Bama game.

[TheGameHHH]

Washington : 2-1
Notre Dame : 0-4

Fucking Holy Roller assholes!

Bwaaaahaaaahaaaahaaa!

dont laugh at all of us, some of us N.D. fans actually wanted Ty to stay.

[toasterpoodle]

LOL @ Notre Dame
The early line has LOL a 12 1/2 point favorite.

[TheGameHHH]

The early line has LOL a 12 1/2 point favorite.

i dont care who you are, thats funny

[El Mudo]

Andre Woodson is the best QB in the country

[Da Fish]

How can Tebow be allowed to run the ball 27 times? Someone needs to step up and put a hurt on him.

You didn't know he was Superman???:king:

[Bama]

Yesterday was not cool.

[Da Fish]

Yesterday was not cool.

No offense to you but poor Nick Saban:glurps::clap:

[JimBeam]

Yeah that win Ty Willingham had against Syracuse this year sure was something.

Reminded me of the time he lead ND to a thrilling 38-12 season ending loss to those same Orangemen which capped of a spectacular 5-7 campaign.

I do sometimes forget what a great coach he was.

Some claim Spurrier was the genius but now that Willingham is 2-2 ( with another loss to a ranked team ) @ Washington maybe he should be considerd the genius.

I also rememnisce for the the 3 times he lost to USC by 31 points ( he managed to knock that down to only 27 points his first year @ Washington, and actually only lost by 6 last year, but signs are he'll be back to 27+ next weekend ).

Glad to see he handled a UCLA team coming off a 44-6 loss and playing w/out their starting QB.

In 2 weeks Weis may have more wins in the PAC10 than Willingham this year if ND can pull off the upset of UCLA.

[Fezticle98]

FSU -2.5 vs. Alabama in Jacksonville? Free money! How is FSU favored?

Alabama should be Mr. Perfect's pick this week. I hope it's not, because that would ensure FSU's defeat.

[El Mudo]

FSU -2.5 vs. Alabama in Jacksonville? Free money! How is FSU favored?

Alabama should be Mr. Perfect's pick this week. I hope it's not, because that would ensure FSU's defeat.



Maybe theyre being considered as the home team, even though its in Jacksonville...the home team always gets a substantial bump, so that's pretty much favoring Alabama if you look at it that way (thats not a very big line for a home team...they usually get 3)

[Fezticle98]

Maybe theyre being considered as the home team, even though its in Jacksonville...the home team always gets a bump

It's pretty common knowledge that Alabama fans will outnumber FSU fans there. I imagine it will be a 60/40 pro Bama crowd. At best, it will be 50/50. I can't believe that the oddsmakers wouldn't know that.

[Aggie]

Poor Bama. :tongue:

[Tenbatsuzen]

This is the sloppiest football game I've ever laid witness to, and I'm a fucking Jets fan.

[cougarjake13]

This is the sloppiest football game I've ever laid witness to, and I'm a fucking Jets fan.

are you talking bout the usf west va

[Tenbatsuzen]

are you talking bout the usf west va

You see any other game that's had 8 turnovers in the first half?

[cougarjake13]

You see any other game that's had 8 turnovers in the first half?

i ve been watching smackdown and the mets game

actually forgot it was on

[cougarjake13]

touchdown usf !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


up 21-3

[Bama]

Wow, congrats to USF. They've got an awesome team.

[El Mudo]

Dear South Florida:


Thank you for beating the evil Hoopies and making sure that we as a nation will not have to suffer the indignity of hearing them involved in any national title talk this year. I sincerely appreciate it.


Sincerely, Your new biggest fan

El Mudo


PS: Matt Grothe for Heisman :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Bama]

Dear South Florida:


Thank you for beating the evil Hoopies and making sure that we as a nation will not have to suffer the indignity of hearing them involved in any national title talk this year. I sincerely appreciate it.


Sincerely, Your new biggest fan

El Mudo


PS: Matt Grothe for Heisman :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Amen!

BTW - You're three weeks late getting on the Grothe for Heisman bandwagon. Welcome aboard!

[Tenbatsuzen]

USF has a scary-ass team. They were VERY good last year and would have been in the mix if Rutgers didn't beat them.

I'm not complaining. WVU had no business winning that game. It was just sloppy craptastic play by them. Turnovers, botched snaps... I've never seen that many botched snaps.

USF 2007 = Rutgers 2006.

[Da Fish]

USF has a scary-ass team. They were VERY good last year and would have been in the mix if Rutgers didn't beat them.

I'm not complaining. WVU had no business winning that game. It was just sloppy craptastic play by them. Turnovers, botched snaps... I've never seen that many botched snaps.

USF 2007 = Rutgers 2006.

USF is here to stay. Big East is on the rise and USF is a large part of it.

[led37zep]

Gameday at Autzen is a beautiful sight!!!!

[TheGameHHH]

i cant take how bad Notre Dame is

[cougarjake13]

Amen!

BTW - You're three weeks late getting on the Grothe for Heisman bandwagon. Welcome aboard!

its quite nice to finally have a good college football team to root for

[Da Fish]

i cant take how bad Notre Dame is

It's so bad you just have to laugh.

[TheGameHHH]

It's so bad you just have to laugh.

yea that pretty much sums it up. and thats what i do, i just have to laugh.

but deep down inside, im crying

[sailor]

USF has a scary-ass team. They were VERY good last year and would have been in the mix if Rutgers didn't beat them.

I'm not complaining. WVU had no business winning that game. It was just sloppy craptastic play by them. Turnovers, botched snaps... I've never seen that many botched snaps.

USF 2007 = Rutgers 2006.

funny thing is, if you look at the stats you'd think wvu had a big win...till you get to the 6 turnovers.

1st Downs 21 13
Total Yards 437 274
Passing 249 135
Rushing 188 139
Penalties 1-11 5-40
3rd Down Conversions 5-17 6-14
4th Down Conversions 3-6 1-1
Turnovers 6 4
Possession 34:38 25:22

[JimBeam]

While I will give credit to USF for a big win for their program let's not make this defense out to be fantastic.

They might have come up w/ 6 turnovers but most of those were courtesy of WVU ( yes I know turnovers are always courtesy of the other team but sometikes the defense causes them and other times the defense is just in a place to take advantage of them ).

They gave up a few huge 4th down a long conversions and missed a lot of tackles.

Oh and I think those of you that were boasting 5 H-man candidates in the Big East are left w/ only 1 " realistic " candidate.

According to the Gameday guys on ESPN Radio ND just scored their first offenseive TD but ........................ they missed the extra point.

I'm really starting to think that maybe this Weis guy is a jackass.

Why the hell is ND constantly down by 20+ points ?

[cougarjake13]

Why the hell is ND constantly down by 20+ points ?

b/c weiss stopped cheating once he got to notre dame

[TheGameHHH]

I'm now a huge Evan Sharpley fan

[Bama]

I'm now a huge Evan Sharpley fan

Great pass.

Wow. Notre Dame is in this thing.

Edit: Nevermind

[led37zep]

I'm a nervous fucking nelly right now.

GO DUCKS!!!!!!!

[Bama]

I'm a nervous fucking nelly right now.

GO DUCKS!!!!!!!

This looks like an SEC game.

3-0 after 1?

[led37zep]

This looks like an SEC game.

3-0 after 1?

Both Defenses are really stepping up. Cal can't run on us, we can't pass on them.

[PhishHead]

anyone else in NJ/NY pissed they have the rutgers game on instead of the only game of the week between two ranked teams? :thumbdown:

[Bama]

anyone else in NJ/NY pissed they have the rutgers game on instead of the only game of the week between two ranked teams? :thumbdown:

They're showing that game here in DC too. Sucks.

Thank God for Gameplan.

[cougarjake13]

anyone else in NJ/NY pissed they have the rutgers game on instead of the only game of the week between two ranked teams? :thumbdown:

what game is that ???

im too lazy to look

[cougarjake13]

azhh you mean cal oregon

[BoondockSaint]

azhh you mean cal oregon

We all know who's going to win that anyway.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Rutgers is Shitting the Bed so far

MUDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!


first your nats, then you Terps

Ya killin Me Ryan !!!!!!!!

:king:

[Bama]

Wow. Rutgers finally plays somebody and look what happens.

[Bama]

Colorado is a field goal away from upsetting Oklahoma.

Tie game - 2 minutes and change to go. CU ball at the 50.

[cougarjake13]

Wow. Rutgers finally plays somebody and look what happens.

theres still plenty of time

[Bama]

If you've got FSN you need to check out this OU-CU game.

Colorado is about to kick a 40 something yard field goal for the win.

[Bama]

It's GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!

Down go the Sooners!

WOW

[J.Clints]

It's GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!

Down go the Sooners!

WOW

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

[JimBeam]

Not to drudge up a week old story but everytime I hear that Ok St coach say "I'm 40 ... " I think of that bit that one of the females ( the one who played Mary Catherine Gallagher ) on SNL used to do "I'm 50 !! 50 years old !!!"

Besides that Chris Fowler makes some good points, as always, in this article about the situation :

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=fowler_chris&id=3038404

[deliciousV]

Mr. Perfects pick, the Ducks, are up 10-3 at halftime. The man is money in the bank.

[cougarjake13]

It's GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!

Down go the Sooners!

WOW

so much for them winning the championship

[Bama]

Bama's offense is breaking my heart.

[led37zep]

anyone else in NJ/NY pissed they have the rutgers game on instead of the only game of the week between two ranked teams? :thumbdown:

I'd be livid.

[Bama]

Real barn burner down in Jacksonville.

Alabama leads 0-0 at the half.

[lleeder]

Down goes Perfect, Down goes Perfect.

[cougarjake13]

Real barn burner down in Jacksonville.

Alabama leads 0-0 at the half.

how can anyone lead 0-0 ???



its now 7-0 fsu

[El Mudo]

M-A-R-Y-L-A-N-D MARYLAND WILL WINNNNNNNNNNNNNN
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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[Tenbatsuzen]

Mr. Perfects pick, the Ducks, are up 10-3 at halftime. The man is money in the bank.

Nice jinx.


Anyway, congrats to Mudo on his big win today. It's apparently extremely unsafe to be a top ten team this weekend.

[cougarjake13]

Nice jinx.


Anyway, congrats to Mudo on his big win today. It's apparently extremely unsafe to be a top ten team this weekend.

im just glad i dont bet, id be losing money every wseek

[cougarjake13]

ohhh sorry bama


14-0 noles

[Bama]

Pain.....................

[zen]

glad your boy brown is ok bama. i was holding my breath there for a minute

[Bama]

glad your boy brown is ok bama. i was holding my breath there for a minute

That was scary as hell wasn't it? Jesus.


Congrats to Florida State. God, this game was painful.

[TheGameHHH]

i know theres still 3 quarters left in the game, but USC doesnt look too good right now.

[zen]

auburn gonna lose the game because of a BULLSHIT penalty. FUCK

[zen]

WAR FUCKING EAGLE!!!! the duality of being an auburn fan is incredible. can't beat mississippi state but take it to florida. fuck all you haters. i gotta go buy an eight-ball and find an underage whore. peace

[Bama]

WAR FUCKING EAGLE!!!! the duality of being an auburn fan is incredible. can't beat mississippi state but take it to florida. fuck all you haters. i gotta go buy an eight-ball and find an underage whore. peace

You might not believe this but I was rooting for Auburn. (Tired of fighting with my Aubie wife about it) Seeing that freshman kicker doing the gator chomp was HILARIOUS.

Screw Tebow. Screw Florida.

Congrats to all the Auburn fans.

[PhilDeez]

You might not believe this but I was rooting for Auburn. (Tired of fighting with my Aubie wife about it) Seeing that freshman kicker doing the gator chomp was HILARIOUS.

Screw Tebow. Screw Florida.

Congrats to all the Auburn fans.

Ditto. Screw Tebow!
I am going to find a jersey of the true freshman kicker – seeing him do the chomp topped off a terrific day of college football. Only if the golden boys from SC could fall.
Another downfall was/is hearing Herbstreet and Musberger gloat about Ohio St. climbing the ranks tomorrow.

[zen]

well bama, i'm genuinely touched. i really am. since our first exchange on this board, i thought we would be on seperate sides of the aisle. ya know, we'd just have to agree to disagree, at least until the iron bowl when it's every man for himself? maybe we can find some other common ground in the meantime. like doughnuts. i really like doughnuts. do you? or midgets - i definetly have a midget fetish. and midgets serving me doughnuts - FUGGEHDABOUTIT! damn, that's some really good blow. apoalogize for the tangent. but seriously, if you ever make it back down to the motherland i'd love to meet up for a beer and a shit-talking session. have a good evening

[Da Fish]

You might not believe this but I was rooting for Auburn. (Tired of fighting with my Aubie wife about it) Seeing that freshman kicker doing the gator chomp was HILARIOUS.

Screw Tebow. Screw Florida.

Congrats to all the Auburn fans.

Yeah, nice sportsmanship by the kicker. Why all the hate for the Gators. Anyway, good game. Gators really showed their youth in that one.

IN TEBOW WE TRUST

[zen]

oh. that's right. i forget that gator fans are known for their hospitality. the swamp is always such a welcoming place. honestly, it was a brief celebration. i didn't see anything un-sportsmanlike about it.

[Da Fish]

oh. that's right. i forget that gator fans are known for their hospitality. the swamp is always such a welcoming place. honestly, it was a brief celebration. i didn't see anything un-sportsmanlike about it.

I think it might be better then most. Out of the places I've been Lsu was the best place (UF included) and the worst is Miami.

[Fezticle98]

That was scary as hell wasn't it? Jesus.


Congrats to Florida State. God, this game was painful.

Thanks, man. We needed a win like that. If the coaches go back to Drew Weatherford, I might consider suicide and/or homicide.

I missed the UF game, but was delighted to hear that they lost. They may still kick our ass in the swamp, but hopefully a national championship appearance won't be on the table for them.

[Da Fish]

Thanks, man. We needed a win like that. If the coaches go back to Drew Weatherford, I might consider suicide and/or homicide.

I missed the UF game, but was delighted to hear that they lost. They may still kick our ass in the swamp, but hopefully a national championship appearance won't be on the table for them.

I don't think a NC was a reality even before the lose. UF needs more experience especially on defense.

[zen]

i concur. the swamp is hostile. but baton rouge is downright rude. been to games at most all sec campuses and you can always find some relatively cool people. they may talk shit and fuck with you but you can still drink and converse with them. the sole exception is lsu. i'm convinced every last coon ass fan SUCKS. i apologize to any lsu fans reading this. bleaux tigers bleaux!!! (it'd be a lot easier to ridicule them if the team wasn't so bad ass).

[Da Fish]

i concur. the swamp is hostile. but baton rouge is downright rude. been to games at most all sec campuses and you can always find some relatively cool people. they may talk shit and fuck with you but you can still drink and converse with them. the sole exception is lsu. i'm convinced every last coon ass fan SUCKS. i apologize to any lsu fans reading this. bleaux tigers bleaux!!! (it'd be a lot easier to ridicule them if the team wasn't so bad ass).

I'd say a majority of big time schools are hostile. I had no problems with LSU fans. Georgia fans can be very hostile. Even though we have beaten them like what 15 of the last 17 games. I guess it's just its frustration. I would be frustrated as well(see Dolphins vs. Jets) I was in the UF band and don't understand why people would waste their voice to yell and scream at us. I don't play football, I'm just here to watch football and pick up my check$$$.

[Bama]

i concur. the swamp is hostile. but baton rouge is downright rude. been to games at most all sec campuses and you can always find some relatively cool people. they may talk shit and fuck with you but you can still drink and converse with them. the sole exception is lsu. i'm convinced every last coon ass fan SUCKS. i apologize to any lsu fans reading this. bleaux tigers bleaux!!! (it'd be a lot easier to ridicule them if the team wasn't so bad ass).

COULD NOT AGREE MORE.

LSU fans are BY FAR the worst fans in the SEC.

[Da Fish]

COULD NOT AGREE MORE.

LSU fans are BY FAR the worst fans in the SEC.

I've only been there once, so I guess you guys have more experience because of being in the western division. That really must say something about Miami because I only went there once.

[zen]

other things i'm thankful for:
USC's near loss
Longhorn's loss and
Notre Dame's loss (ain't jimmy clausen the greatest ? at least he wills always have chippendales)

[JimBeam]

I went to LSU and have never been a fan of the football team and their fans are just like other fans in that they can be harsh and rude to fans of other teams the thing that's differnet is that when you get out into the tailgating they treat you like friends.

They welcome you into their gatherings w/ open arms and you may just have to deal w/ a little ribbing.

I haven't been to any other SEC schools so I'm not sure if the same rings true there.

As far as the kicker doing the chomp somebody on UF should've reminded him that he was a kicker and that even a win over UF doesn't erase a loss to USF and Miss St.

He's from Florida as was probably pissy that they didn't recruit him.

I hate when non-skill players act the ass.

[Da Fish]

I went to LSU and have never been a fan of the football team and their fans are just like other fans in that they can be harsh and rude to fans of other teams the thing that's differnet is that when you get out into the tailgating they treat you like friends.

They welcome you into their gatherings w/ open arms and you may just have to deal w/ a little ribbing.

I haven't been to any other SEC schools so I'm not sure if the same rings true there.

As far as the kicker doing the chomp somebody on UF should've reminded him that he was a kicker and that even a win over UF doesn't erase a loss to USF and Miss St.

He's from Florida as was probably pissy that they didn't recruit him.

I hate when non-skill players act the ass.

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[Bama]

Urban was the ass pulling the timeout at the last second crap. He thought he was sooooooooooooo smart.

The kid nailed the game winner TWICE!

Chomp away kicker dude.

[JimBeam]

That timeout business is all the rage now and is no more harmless than calling the timeout 10 seconds before the snap.

Whether or not the " icing " crap even works is one question but every coach runs through the motions regardless. They sometikes do it 2 times if they have 2 timeouts.

I'm no fan of UF or Meyer but I'm even less of a fan of taunting from a guy who's on the field for 2 minutes total a game and doesn't get his jersey dirty. If a skill player that made that drive possible wants to chirp that's one thing but it's silly coming from somebody that has made as much physical contact in the game as the cheerleaders.

[sailor]

I'm no fan of UF or Meyer but I'm even less of a fan of taunting from a guy who's on the field for 2 minutes total a game and doesn't get his jersey dirty. If a skill player that made that drive possible wants to chirp that's one thing but it's silly coming from somebody that has made as much physical contact in the game as the cheerleaders.

by your logic we also shouldn't boo kickers if they miss a crucial kick, since they're not real players.

[JimBeam]

No I'm not saying the dude shouldn't be proud of what he did but what did he do to earn the right to taunt other than hide behind a line of 9 other guys and kick the ball w/out fear of being hit ?

Don't confuse my distaste for his antics, which I believe to be hollow, with criticism of the position itself.

In fact I'll argue even more that you boo a kicker if he misses a kick because he has one job to do and he has the aformentioned protection of 9 guys as well a several penalties to protect him in his attempt.

No risk, no reward.

Now if he attempts a kick that's a long shot or if there's some difficulty w/ the snap/hold then the kicker shouldn't be faulted.

Now this comparison is between him and his peers not him and you/I watching this happen on TV ( although he did look like a bit of a dandy so I think I could take him ).

[TheGameHHH]

Yeah that win Ty Willingham had against Syracuse this year sure was something.

Reminded me of the time he lead ND to a thrilling 38-12 season ending loss to those same Orangemen which capped of a spectacular 5-7 campaign.

I do sometimes forget what a great coach he was.

Some claim Spurrier was the genius but now that Willingham is 2-2 ( with another loss to a ranked team ) @ Washington maybe he should be considerd the genius.

I also rememnisce for the the 3 times he lost to USC by 31 points ( he managed to knock that down to only 27 points his first year @ Washington, and actually only lost by 6 last year, but signs are he'll be back to 27+ next weekend ).

Glad to see he handled a UCLA team coming off a 44-6 loss and playing w/out their starting QB.

In 2 weeks Weis may have more wins in the PAC10 than Willingham this year if ND can pull off the upset of UCLA.

good to see USC shit on Ty yesterday, that was a huge 3 point blowout.....man, willingham doesnt even deserve to be on the same field as that USC powerhouse.

dont worry, im sure weis will keep USC in check. ND will prob win that game, or at worst lose by only 1. thus proving once and for all that weis is a better coach.

[Axem Red]

Urban was the ass pulling the timeout at the last second crap. He thought he was sooooooooooooo smart.

The kid nailed the game winner TWICE!

Chomp away kicker dude.

Yeah. And Auburn has been getting shit on for the past two weeks around here, so i don't blame the kicker for doing the chomp at the end.

[JimBeam]

So now Willingham is a great coach because this time he didnt lose by 31 points ?

And if you think that the game last night was close because of anything that Willingham did than you know much less about football than I give you credit for.

That game was an inter-squad game for USC.

You think it's even close w/out the 180+ yards in penalties and at least 3 turnovers ?

You're right Willingham had another team poised any ready to go.

USC gave up almost as many yards in penalties as Ty's team generated in total yards ( 161 to 190 ).

He's the next coming of Bear Bryant.

[Mr.Pants]

Holy crap! USF is no. 6 in the AP. Sagarin has them at no. 3.

[JimBeam]

I can't belive that LSU jumped USC in the one poll.

Sure USC looked like shit and being in any close games against a Ty Willingham coached team should hurt but LSU was beating Tulane 10-9 at the half in somewhat of a home game.

This is a Tulane team that lost to Houston and Miss St and beat SE Louisiana.

At least Wash is in a BCS conference.

Upset by UF in BR next week would be sweet.

[Bama]

Stanford has a shot at upsetting USC. It's on the Versus network.

Stanford driving, down by 6

2 minutes to go.

30 yds to go.

[Bama]

HOLY SHIT!

Stanford had 4th and 20 and got it!

First and goal. 1:30 left to play.

TD and the extra point wins it!

[whiskyriver]

thanks for the heads up

[Bama]

They Got It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stanford up by 1 with 49 seconds to go.

[whiskyriver]

YES.......now back to my gators,thanks bama love seeing usc go down!!!

[whiskyriver]

face mask

[Bama]

Interception!

The Trojans go down!

Stanford wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stanford had a 4th and 20 AND a 4th and 10 in the last drive. SO CLUTCH.

[whiskyriver]

luv it.......:clap::clap::clap:

[Bama]

That was the Stanford QB's first start.

Wow. It's all downhill from here kid.

[whiskyriver]

how'd your boys do today bama?

[Bama]

how'd your boys do today bama?

Pathetic.

They beat Houston but it was only by 6 and they had to stop them at the goalline in the final seconds to do it. Very similar play to that Stanford TD. Only Bama stopped 'em.

[Tenbatsuzen]

2, 5, 8, and 12 lost.

If Florida holds, we could be looking at #3 ranked... South Florida!?

[whiskyriver]

Gators TD :clap:

[Bama]

HAHAHA.

Touchdown Florida. Seeing USC and LSU lose in the same day is almost too good to be true.

[Tenbatsuzen]

HAHAHA.

Touchdown Florida. Seeing USC and LSU lose in the same day is almost too good to be true.

Yeah, but it means #1 ranked tOSU.

[whiskyriver]

who the hell knows whos #1.....

[Bama]

Doesn't matter.

The winner of the Florida-LSU SEC championship game is gonna win it all anyway.

[PhishHead]

Yeah, but it means #1 ranked tOSU.

no way OSU jumps Cal in the polls, Cal will be #1

[whiskyriver]

Doesn't matter.

The winner of the Florida-LSU SEC championship game is gonna win it all anyway.

YUP

[TheGameHHH]

do the twin DBs on Rutgers play defense at all or do they just like to run behind the opposing WRs and then act all angry when the receiver catches it?

[PhishHead]

WE WON!! FInally!!!

Our D played great!!! Neal, Crum, Smith, Toryan, Brian Smith, Zibby, Bruton IT WAS FUCKING GREAT!!! Crum almost had 2 TD's but lost his footing while returning the 2nd interception

Offense was good enough not to fuck up and keep everything in check.

Geoff Price finally back to his old form as well

and our Kicker made a great 48 yard FG that bounched off cross bar and went in.

[Bama]

Doesn't matter.

The winner of the Florida-LSU SEC championship game is gonna win it all anyway.

Um, well I assumed Florida would win this game. That's what I get for assuming, I guess.

[TheGameHHH]

WE WON!! FInally!!!

Our D played great!!! Neal, Crum, Smith, Toryan, Brian Smith, Zibby, Bruton IT WAS FUCKING GREAT!!! Crum almost had 2 TD's but lost his footing while returning the 2nd interception

Offense was good enough not to fuck up and keep everything in check.

Geoff Price finally back to his old form as well

and our Kicker made a great 48 yard FG that bounched off cross bar and went in.

i was literally shocked, even though i had to follow the game via highlights. so much for all the haters talking about 0-8, its 1-7 bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bama]

Congrats to Notre Dame.

Thanks for nothing Florida.

[sailor]

WE WON!! FInally!!!

Our D played great!!! Neal, Crum, Smith, Toryan, Brian Smith, Zibby, Bruton IT WAS FUCKING GREAT!!! Crum almost had 2 TD's but lost his footing while returning the 2nd interception

Offense was good enough not to fuck up and keep everything in check.

Geoff Price finally back to his old form as well

and our Kicker made a great 48 yard FG that bounched off cross bar and went in.

coincidentally, the jinxy nd-watching group did not meet this week. should make for fun radio.

[JimBeam]

Hey GameHHH I was waiting to have me post from a few weeks ago reposted again this week.

Remember last week when you were so happy about Ty not losing by 31 ponts to USC and wanted to show me how much of a better coach he was than Weis ?

Looks like Weis now has more wins in the PAC10 than Willngham does this year.

Shit now w/ even a glimmer of hope of beating USC this year ND could go 3-0 or at the very least 2-1 versus the PAC10 this year.

On a side not kudos to Stanford for pulling off that upset.
I was pissed the game wasn't on regular TV.
I saw the score on the ticker of the UF/LSU game and knew that it seemed too close.

I was hoping UF would hold on to the lead they had when I shut off the game but alas to no avail.

[TheGameHHH]

Hey GameHHH I was waiting to have me post from a few weeks ago reposted again this week.

Remember last week when you were so happy about Ty not losing by 31 ponts to USC and wanted to show me how much of a better coach he was than Weis ?

Looks like Weis now has more wins in the PAC10 than Willngham does this year.

Shit now w/ even a glimmer of hope of beating USC this year ND could go 3-0 or at the very least 2-1 versus the PAC10 this year.

On a side not kudos to Stanford for pulling off that upset.
I was pissed the game wasn't on regular TV.
I saw the score on the ticker of the UF/LSU game and knew that it seemed too close.

I was hoping UF would hold on to the lead they had when I shut off the game but alas to no avail.

i'll tell you what, here's how we'll settle this. instead of going back and forth every week, why dont we just save the talking and at the end of the year we'll look at one thing.......their records. that way their wins and losses can do the talking. not who beat who in conference, which is crazy to begin with because N.D. doesnt have a conference so its not like the reverse argument can even be used. and not only that, we'll also see who had the better 3rd year at N.D.

[Snoogans]

i'll tell you what, here's how we'll settle this. instead of going back and forth every week, why dont we just save the talking and at the end of the year we'll look at one thing.......their records. that way their wins and losses can do the talking. not who beat who in conference, which is crazy to begin with because N.D. doesnt have a conference so its not like the reverse argument can even be used. and not only that, we'll also see who had the better 3rd year at N.D.

because anyone who actually knows sports knows that the record doesnt necc show EVERYTHING about the coaching job. Remember what Lou Pinella did in TB? Exactly

[TheGameHHH]

because anyone who actually knows sports knows that the record doesnt necc show EVERYTHING about the coaching job. Remember what Lou Pinella did in TB? Exactly

it doesnt have to show everything........but we all know wins and losses do the talking. anyone who actually knows sports knows thats what youre judged on.

[Fezticle98]

Nice comeback by Hawaii. 35-35, OT.

[TheGameHHH]

Evan Sharply needs to be the starting QB at Notre Dame this season, its painfully obvious.

[El Mudo]

Down goes LSU


I called it....I KNEW that trip to Kentucky would be trouble for them


And Andre Woodson probably just won himself the Heisman

[led37zep]

I enjoyed the beating my Ducks gave Washington State (as they were supposed to).

Also, USC barely pulled out that win against Arizona...They don't deserve to be ranked 10th.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Look at that. #3 South Florida. Who are they playing next week?

Oh.

Right.


The next two weeks will set the tone for the big East.

[Bama]

Down goes LSU


I called it....I KNEW that trip to Kentucky would be trouble for them


And Andre Woodson probably just won himself the Heisman

I could not be happier right now.

[El Mudo]

Am I really prepared to live in a world where CAL is the number one team in the country?

[Bama]

Am I really prepared to live in a world where CAL is the number one team in the country?

Better then the world we were living in with LSU being number 1.

The sad thing is Cal's bound to lose and Ohio State is gonna get that top spot eventually.

[JPMNICK]

Better then the world we were living in with LSU being number 1.

The sad thing is Cal's bound to lose and Ohio State is gonna get that top spot eventually.

either way Ohio State wins the National Championship

[Bama]

either way Ohio State wins the National Championship

If LSU wins out they still might get a shot at the title. They would absolutely DESTROY Ohio State.

[JPMNICK]

If LSU wins out they still might get a shot at the title. They would absolutely DESTROY Ohio State.

just like the they destroyed Kentucky today?

LSU still has to be Florida again this season right?

[Bama]

just like the they destroyed Kentucky today?

LSU still has to be Florida again this season right?

Ohio State won't play a team as good as Kentucky all year.