Heroes Volume 2

[StupidGirlllll]

Yes you can he took it from Clair right before he met Noah for the daughter switch.. & they do not have any of Adam's on reserve because thats why they needed Clair so they can heal Nicky...what show where you watching?

[zathrus]

does anyone have any idea who this patricia woman is suppose to be and how she is related to the characters. i think petrelli's mom's power is that she can tell when someone is reading her mind.

[StupidGirlllll]

I do not think she has powers her husband had the powers...I think she is more like Clairs mom, but since she knows that he has that power she knows he is trying to read her mind.

[Doctor Manhattan]

i think petrelli's mom's power is that she can tell when someone is reading her mind.

That would be so lame. even worse than being able to copy what you see on TV.

I do not think she has powers her husband had the powers...I think she is more like Clairs mom, but since she knows that he has that power she knows he is trying to read her mind.

What was her husband's power?

Claire's Mom had the power of Fire starting. I thought the powers run in the family. Still wondering what Hiro's Dad's power was. He's been killed (twice now) and never used it on the show but did make it sound like he had a power "We have the power of gods"

[MadMatt]

Yes you can he took it from Clair right before he met Noah for the daughter switch.. & they do not have any of Adam's on reserve because thats why they needed Clair so they can heal Nicky...what show where you watching?

There is no need to be rude about it. :furious:

What I am saying is we do not know where Noah is or who took him, and although we assume Suresh took him and gave him Claire's blood (which, I will admit, looks like the case), we cannot be sure until they tell us what happened next week.

They have pulled other tricks on us before, so why stop now?

[StupidGirlllll]

There is no need to be rude about it. :furious:

What I am saying is we do not know where Noah is or who took him, and although we assume Suresh took him and gave him Claire's blood (which, I will admit, looks like the case), we cannot be sure until they tell us what happened next week.

They have pulled other tricks on us before, so why stop now?

I am sorry I did not mean to come off rude.

[StupidGirlllll]

That would be so lame. even worse than being able to copy what you see on TV.



What was her husband's power?

Claire's Mom had the power of Fire starting. I thought the powers run in the family. Still wondering what Hiro's Dad's power was. He's been killed (twice now) and never used it on the show but did make it sound like he had a power "We have the power of gods"

I am sorry I meant Clairs adoptive mom..oh & in that picture that every1 is dying 1 by 1. I read somewhere that 6 people had powers in that pic & 6 do not.

[cougarjake13]

well i had an idea


last season we had save the cheerleader save the world but with the way things ended with peter blowing up and all, she really didnt have a part in saving anything


what if save the cheerleader save the world is meant for this season and its her blood that prevents or becomes the antidote to the shanti virus ???

[cougarjake13]

That would be so lame. even worse than being able to copy what you see on TV.



What was her husband's power?

Claire's Mom had the power of Fire starting. I thought the powers run in the family. Still wondering what Hiro's Dad's power was. He's been killed (twice now) and never used it on the show but did make it sound like he had a power "We have the power of gods"

dont think they revealed the dad's powers yet but the father was in vietnam with linderman but i dont think he had any, he got shot and woulda died if linderman didnt heal him and then after the war linderman made him an offer to be a part of his plan

so maybe after linderman healed him he got some powers from that

[cougarjake13]

Chapter 60 - REVOLUTIONARY WAR - PART ONE
(http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/novels_display.shtml?novel=60)

[lleeder]

Does every "good" character have to be so gullible? Damn you Maya and Peter you stupid asses fall for everything.

[cupcakelove]

The gangbanger/comic book thieves are a new low in bad writing.

[Freitag]

Let's do an analysis of the smart/not-so-smart characters of Heroes, shall we?

SMART:

Sylar
Nathan
Bob
Noah
Adam
Claire

KINDA SMART:
Ando
Parkman (he's gotten smarter as his character has grown)

NAIVE:
Hiro (attention Tim Kring: The sooner we get bad-ass Hiro, the better)
Micah

DUMB AS A BOX OF ROCKS:
Peter
Suresh


I don't understand how they are writing Suresh to be so dumb. He is, ostensibly, supposed to be the smartest character on the show. He can't be this naive and dumb, otherwise Noah wouldn't have trusted him to infiltrate the company.

I don't see how he can possibly say "this company helps people" when he has SEEN how insane Bob's main lieutenant (Elle) is, and that he knows for a fact that the company has been working on BIOLOGICAL WARFARE. Does he even realize that the virus that the company has been working on is from his dead sister?

I also want to know how Suresh can be such a crack shot re: Noah. I don't know of many people who can pull off a head shot with that kind of accuracy with the setting sun in their eyes, especially since Suresh told Noah point blank that he didn't intentionally try to kill him.

One thing that Bob and Suresh is right about: HRG has totally lost his cool and gone off the deep end. He's killed someone in cold blood this season, and is completely paranoid about the situation.

I like Suresh. I like the actor, I like his role on the show. But his characterization has been truly mind-boggling this season.



I also have a feeling the scenes with Sylar/Maya with Molly were shot late. No way the story gets escalated that fast.

[angrymissy]

The stupid mexican girl that cries blood storyline is SO FUCKING BORING... same goes for the Micah/New Orleans characters... they're trying to jam too many characters into the show. Stick with what works.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Hiro (attention Tim Kring: The sooner we get bad-ass Hiro, the better)

Do you mean the one the Peter met in the subway very early in the series? I thought that was an alternate Hiro from the future where Sylar took over as Nathan and became president. I don't think our Hiro will become that person (too bad, he was cool)

[cupcakelove]

The stupid mexican girl that cries blood storyline is SO FUCKING BORING... same goes for the Micah/New Orleans characters... they're trying to jam too many characters into the show. Stick with what works.

Ding, ding, ding!! You win the grand prize. I seriously wonder why I even bother recording this show anymore. The problem is, they don't have a lot of story going on, so they have to cram it full of these other characters, and boring plot points that have nothing to do with the main story to fill up an hour every week. And as hot as angry Claire is, I don't find her particularly intimidating or believable that way.

[JustJon]

I'm hoping they kill Maya next week as one of the two Hero deaths.

[Furtherman]

Anyone notice that Maya's brother told Sylar "I'm taking back my sister!" in English?

This leads me to believe he's more that what he lead on and we might not be done with him.

I was hoping for a Hiro sneak attack on Peter like they showed on the commercials (Hiro putting the sword to his neck from behind) but I guess that was just a lure, or maybe we see it next week.

[MadMatt]

I'm hoping they kill Maya next week as one of the two Hero deaths.

And hopefully the other one is Niki. If not Niki then Micah, which will probably push Niki over the edge and might make her more interesting (if that is possible).

[King Imp]

I was hoping for a Hiro sneak attack on Peter like they showed on the commercials (Hiro putting the sword to his neck from behind) but I guess that was just a lure, or maybe we see it next week.

I'm thinking that will happen next week. Peter will shoot his electric shock at Hiro who will then teleport behind Peter and put his sword to his neck.

There is so much going on this season and so much was shown in that preview that I find it hard to believe that we will get an acceptable ending to this season.

[JustJon]

And hopefully the other one is Niki. If not Niki then Micah, which will probably push Niki over the edge and might make her more interesting (if that is possible).

Yes, but do you really believe they would violently kill a child in prime time television?

[StupidGirlllll]

Yea I am ADAH but even I thought there was way to much going on last night & has anyone else notice how lazy one of Claires moms eyes are. & If I was Mikas cousin I would have watched something that makes me industructible like superman so I can have more powers than just high jumping

[MadMatt]

Yes, but do you really believe they would violently kill a child in prime time television?

It doesn't have to be a violent death, but you are right. I keep thinking comicbook rather than Network TV.

I doubt they will even kill Niki since she is a "big star" - or at least a better known name than most of the other actors that are left on the show.

[MadMatt]

Yea I am ADAH but even I thought there was way to much going on last night & has anyone else notice how lazy one of Claires moms eyes are. & If I was Mikas cousin I would have watched something that makes me industructible like superman so I can have more powers than just high jumping

She can replicate physical actions/activities/skills but not powers. In other words, she can pick up any skill or ability she sees but nothing in the superhuman realm.

She is like the Taskmaster in Marvel Comics - he has "photographic reflexes" that allow him to perform any physical skill/action he sees. However, he is still bound by the normal limitations of his physique.

At least that is the way they are portraying things now...

[JustJon]

It doesn't have to be a violent death, but you are right. I keep thinking comicbook rather than Network TV.

I doubt they will even kill Niki since she is a "big star" - or at least a better known name than most of the other actors that are left on the show.

There are really only two female heroes. That means you can't kill them, generally. You don't want an all male cast.

[lleeder]

Let's do an analysis of the smart/not-so-smart characters of Heroes, shall we?

SMART:

Sylar
Nathan
Bob
Noah
Adam
Claire

KINDA SMART:
Ando
Parkman (he's gotten smarter as his character has grown)

NAIVE:
Hiro (attention Tim Kring: The sooner we get bad-ass Hiro, the better)
Micah

DUMB AS A BOX OF ROCKS:
Peter
Suresh



I disagree with you on Hiro. He's become one of the smarter heroes on the show. He doesn't waste time and has learned to use his powers with pinpoint accuracy.

[King Imp]

Let's do an analysis of the smart/not-so-smart characters of Heroes, shall we?

SMART:

Sylar
Nathan
Bob
Noah
Adam
Claire

KINDA SMART:
Ando
Parkman (he's gotten smarter as his character has grown)

NAIVE:
Hiro (attention Tim Kring: The sooner we get bad-ass Hiro, the better)
Micah

DUMB AS A BOX OF ROCKS:
Peter
Suresh

I would move Hiro up to Kinda Smart and Bob down to Kinda Smart. Remember, Bob never saw the whole "Suresh as a plant" deal.

[StupidGirlllll]

There are really only two female heroes. That means you can't kill them, generally. You don't want an all male cast.

There are like 5 female so called Heroes on the cast if you think about it...Mya, Claire, Niki, Her Cousin , Elle , oh & then you have all of Nikis others identities which we only saw 2 so that brings you up 7 but if they kill Niki it brings you back down to 4.

[ToLEEdo]

No one likes the Niki storyline so I think that she might be the one to die.

[Doctor Manhattan]

And as hot as angry Claire is, I don't find her particularly intimidating or believable that way.

Also she is able to heal herself but she should have just broken her hand when hitting that car window, not shatter it. The writers are idiots and are forgetting who has what power.

The only storylines I really care about are "Peter and Adam looking for the Virus" and "Hiro looking for Adam" they should kill off the New Orleans Crew and have Sylar kill off the wondertwins.

Also WTF is Ohura doing on the show? The writers are fans of Star Trek but don't give her a power? Or are they going to do the same thing with her as they did with Sulu and say she has a power but don't let her use it?

[JustJon]

There are like 5 female so called Heroes on the cast if you think about it...Mya, Claire, Niki, Her Cousin , Elle , oh & then you have all of Nikis others identities which we only saw 2 so that brings you up 7 but if they kill Niki it brings you back down to 4.

Mya - no one likes. No one.
The Cousin - Notice how we haven't discussed her in weeks?
Elle - Has powers, not a hero

They won't kill off Claire or Niki (or any Ali Larter on the show), the two female heroes that people actually give a shit about.

[StupidGirlllll]

Mya - no one likes. No one.
The Cousin - Notice how we haven't discussed her in weeks?
Elle - Has powers, not a hero

They won't kill off Claire or Niki (or any Ali Larter on the show), the two female heroes that people actually give a shit about.

Do you know that Maya is on the cover of Mens Health Magazine in a fold out & it is in my bathroom & I cant even look at that.

[JustJon]

Do you know that Maya is on the cover of Mens Health Magazine in a fold out & it is in my bathroom & I cant even look at that.

Because you are too busy doing naughty things in there?

[chubbyknuckles]

Because you are too busy doing naughty things in there?

Check out the clair character in GQ, hot as fucking hell!

[King Imp]

It's official. The Shanti virus is..... SLUSHO! (http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/11/20/cloverfield-slusho-appears-on-heroes/)

[cougarjake13]

Do you mean the one the Peter met in the subway very early in the series? I thought that was an alternate Hiro from the future where Sylar took over as Nathan and became president. I don't think our Hiro will become that person (too bad, he was cool)

exactly and last year they said one of the reasons he became tha way was b/c ando died

ando isnt dead anymore

[cougarjake13]

Also WTF is Ohura doing on the show? The writers are fans of Star Trek but don't give her a power? Or are they going to do the same thing with her as they did with Sulu and say she has a power but don't let her use it?

well if we have seen anything its that an older generation of the family was the first heroes or people with powers

and in the niki micah dl family we havent see n that yet so maybe its her

[drusilla]

has anyone else notice how lazy one of Claires moms eyes are.

for months i've been saying that i think she has bells palsy. there is something wacky going on there & she can only move one side of her mouth when she speaks. the true test to see if she has it or not is if she ever blinks on camera & both eyes are able to shut. i haven't noticed that yet though. even so i think she may have a minor case of it.

[WampusCrandle]

half of the wonder twins is dead - finally. i hate them both, but the girl is finally getting a bit more interesting now that she can control her crying death power thing.

and with the last new episode airing tomorrow, what will you be replacing it with? frankly, i dont know what i will replace it with.

[MadMatt]

Hiro rules! Talk about a bad ass move!

And Adam thought being locked up by the company was bad...

[Tenbatsuzen]

Sylar shooting Maya = top tv moment of the year for me.

Of course, it was a live-saving move. he doesn't do that, all three in the room are dead.

[MadMatt]

Sylar shooting Maya = top tv moment of the year for me.

Of course, it was a live-saving move. he doesn't do that, all three in the room are dead.

That was excellent, but even better:

Niki was apparently blown up! Woo-Hoo!!! :clap:
She had better stay dead or I will be pissed...

[lleeder]

I thought it all sucked. Adam will be back. The whole Sylar thing and everything else was predictable. I guess next season is "Who shot Nathan?". Well it was HRG.

[boonanas]

for months i've been saying that i think she has bells palsy. there is something wacky going on there & she can only move one side of her mouth when she speaks. the true test to see if she has it or not is if she ever blinks on camera & both eyes are able to shut. i haven't noticed that yet though. even so i think she may have a minor case of it.

Same thing with Milo Ventimiglia. It seems like he's only able to move one part of his mouth.

[lleeder]

Same thing with Milo Ventimiglia. It seems like he's only able to move one part of his mouth.

He shows emotion with the frozen face side.

[boonanas]

I thought it was decent. Nathan getting shot was so fucking predicable. Although I think they should've gotten rid of Peter Petrelli instead, he's an annoying little twerp. Niki/Micah storyline had NOTHING to do with the grand scheme, which rendered it an utter waste of time, other than Niki getting killed, which is a plus. Too bad for the WGA strike, this episode seemed sloppy and rushed. But it was decent overall.

[lleeder]

I thought it was decent. Nathan getting shot was so fucking predicable. Although I think they should've gotten rid of Peter Petrelli instead, he's an annoying little twerp. Niki/Micah storyline had NOTHING to do with the grand scheme, which rendered it an utter waste of time, other than Niki getting killed, which is a plus. Too bad for the WGA strike, this episode seemed sloppy and rushed. But it was decent overall.

How can it be decent if the major twists were all predictable and lame? I say it was good cause any Heroes is better than nothing but for a midseason finally it disappointed.

[StupidGirlllll]

Didn't Nathan get a blood transfusion from Adam? Now wouldn't that make his also invincible? I really do not think he is dead, they brought back HRG, so why not Nathan Claires real father. Did they ever tell you what happened to her real mother? At the end when Skyler moved the can with his mind I thought a cockroach was going to come out of the can.

[zathrus]

stupidgirl,
i was thinking the same thing. Nathan should be able to heal himself, but who was the mother talking to on the phone? and what pandoras box? why couldn't they just let mia die? that is one character that i can't stand. do you think that peter will try to give his brother a transfusion of his (peter's) blood?

[StupidGirlllll]

stupidgirl,
i was thinking the same thing. Nathan should be able to heal himself, but who was the mother talking to on the phone? and what pandoras box? why couldn't they just let mia die? that is one character that i can't stand. do you think that peter will try to give his brother a transfusion of his (peter's) blood?

Nathan already has Adam's blood running in his veins, so he might be able to heal himself, sorta how like Clair did when she had that spike in her head & when they took the spike out she came back on the autopsy table.

[MadMatt]

I have been trying to find information about what happens to donor blood after it is absorbed by the body, but I am not having much luck. I had always assumed that using a transfusion was a stop-gap measure until the patient's body could make more of it's own blood, but I don't know.

Either way, red blood cells have a 120 day life cycle. Theoretically, Adam's blood could still be coursing through Nathan's veins and help him to heal, given it is still within the 120 day period.

How long (in show time) had it been since Nathan was given the blood? A month or so? I can't remember how long Peter was held by the Company before he and Adam escaped.

[Freitag]

The end of the show had the news report saying Nathan was SHOT, not killed. So he's alive, even though the teaser said two heroes would be killed.

This whole regenerative blood thing is crap, and I'm just glad it's over and we're back on track that Sylar's re-powered.

Here's the problem I currently have. And it's going to twist your brain.

Peter stopped the release of the Shanti virus. That being said, the nightmare future of June 2008 doesn't exist now.

Only problem:

Caitlin from 2007 was teleported to Alternate Future 2008 - and left there.

Nice job in saving Caitlin, Pete.

[marky2bucks]

Do we still have to cover spoilers?

The possibilities of Nathan, Adam, or Niki coming back are def still open. I'd give Adam 80%, Nathan 20%, Niki 2%. With the magical Claire blood, they can do about anything with the cast.

It's too bad about the writers strike. They didn't even touch the Maya story. I thought she would have something to do with the virus. Shit, the whole virus story was pretty underdeveloped.

And did you notice that when Parker, Nathan and Momma Petrelli were in the same room, they recapped at least two episodes that were never written: "Mom, Peter is still alive" "Victoria is dead" "We went to the crime scene and found all this out, it just wasn't shown in any episode"

I would rather have had them freeze the season early than truncating the story.

[marky2bucks]

The end of the show had the news report saying Nathan was SHOT, not killed. So he's alive, even though the teaser said two heroes would be killed.

Caitlin from 2007 was teleported to Alternate Future 2008 - and left there.

Nice job in saving Caitlin, Pete.

I think the commercial said two will "fall", interpret how you will. And they can leave Caitlin in the future, she was basically useless.

And...

radio psychic.

radio psychic.

Elle is Claire's sister. I have nothing to back that up. But the writer's love that shit.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Didn't Nathan get a blood transfusion from Adam? Now wouldn't that make his also invincible? I really do not think he is dead, they brought back HRG, so why not Nathan Claires real father.

I said it before and I'm sticking with it: I don't think getting Adam's or Claire's blood make you invincible. It heals. We have not had any sign that any power is passed to the recipient of that blood.

One question is how long does someone have to be dead before Healing Blood would not bring someone back?

Adam is alive and will get out as some point. Would he starve to death? Would he be stuck in there forever?

[MadMatt]

Technically,

Maya WAS killed. Although she was brought back to life by Claire's blood, it still looks like she died.

Hell, it was a viable plot point on Buffy the Vampire Slayer...

[Furtherman]

TVGuide.com has some quotes from Tim Kring.

The fate of Nathan, who was shot during a TV press conference, and of Niki, who may have died in an abandoned building explosion, are "up in the air and will be determined when we come back after the strike," Kring says. "Things are fairly dire for them both." Immortal Adam was teleported by Hiro (Masi Oka) into a coffin buried in the same Japanese cemetery where his father Kaito (George Takei), who was slain by Adam, is also buried. "It's poetic justice to have Adam end up in the same graveyard as Kaito," Kring notes. "We've given the audience no reason to believe that Adam can figure a way to get out of there. The fact that he can live forever makes this the most gruesome of internments. If this happened to any of us, at least we'd know we'd soon have the mercy of death. Not here."

Exclusive: Tim Kring Explains Heroes' "Generations" Finale (http://www.tvguide.com/news/heroes-generations-finale/071204-01)

[JustJon]

The fate of Adam just creeped me out. Bad enough to be buried alive like that, but to be stuck and immortal...

[MadMatt]

The fate of Adam just creeped me out. Bad enough to be buried alive like that, but to be stuck and immortal...

There was an episode of Highlander: The Series that touched on that point. I don't remember the exact story, but here was an immortal that was a Nazi, he was shot by concentration camp/POW escapees (I think), then he was thrown in a duffel bag, chained up (for weight) and thrown in a river.

However he got there, here is the gist: The guy kept dying of starvation over and over and over again. Just as his suffering would end, his immortality would "kick in" to revive him and put him and keep him suffering. He went on like that for over 50 years.

Brutal...

But I wonder, what will kill Adam? It's likely he will die/pass out from lack of oxygen relatively quickly. Would brain damage from lack of oxygen be one step removed from taking a bullet to the head? In both cases the brain cells die - the bullet just does it more quickly and kills a lot more cells in one shot.

[Doctor Manhattan]

One other thing I was thinking of regarding Adam. Did Hiro transport him into a coffin that was already buried?

If so, why was there an empty coffin (Or is Adam laying on top of a decomposed body?) buried there. And how did Hiro get out? (Hiro transports people when he touches them and transports somwhere himself. If they both popped into a coffin does Hiro not need to seperate himself before transporting by himself?)

If not, how did Hiro get him into the coffin?

[MadMatt]

One other thing I was thinking of regarding Adam. Did Hiro transport him into a coffin that was already buried?

If so, why was there an empty coffin (Or is Adam laying on top of a decomposed body?) buried there. And how did Hiro get out? (Hiro transports people when he touches them and transports somwhere himself. If they both popped into a coffin does Hiro not need to seperate himself before transporting by himself?)

If not, how did Hiro get him into the coffin?

"Just repeat to yourself it's just a show, I should really just relax."

[Furtherman]

The fate of Adam just creeped me out. Bad enough to be buried alive like that, but to be stuck and immortal...

If not, how did Hiro get him into the coffin?

Hiro can freeze time, including Adam, in time. He could have frozen time and arranged that whole tomb and set it up so he'd be trapped.

And yea, that freaked me out too - especially the big slab of concrete on top of the coffin, underground.

He might eventually be able to break through the coffin... but the concrete would keep him there a lot longer.

[Aggie]

As long as Adam saw Kill Bill Vol. 2 he can get out. His hand would keep healing so he can punch for years!

I hate this strike.

[StupidGirlllll]

I have another crazy question, remeber HRG got shot right in the eye, but when he recieved Clairs blood he grew an eye back, that means nomatter what you can regenerate if given this blood, then why did Peters mom tell the mondreader to shoot him in the head...it doesn't matter he will still survive once the bullet is taken out. I just do not get this show anymore. & why on Earth would they get my hopes up & crash them all in the same scene? I really thought Mya was gone for good.

[cupcakelove]

I have another crazy question, remeber HRG got shot right in the eye, but when he recieved Clairs blood he grew an eye back, that means nomatter what you can regenerate if given this blood, then why did Peters mom tell the mondreader to shoot him in the head...it doesn't matter he will still survive once the bullet is taken out. I just do not get this show anymore. & why on Earth would they get my hopes up & crash them all in the same scene? I really thought Mya was gone for good.

Good point! Both of them. Why couldn't that bitch just stay dead? Ok, maybe she's not a bitch, but I was really happy when she was shot.

[JustJon]

I have another crazy question, remeber HRG got shot right in the eye, but when he recieved Clairs blood he grew an eye back, that means nomatter what you can regenerate if given this blood, then why did Peters mom tell the mondreader to shoot him in the head...it doesn't matter he will still survive once the bullet is taken out. I just do not get this show anymore. & why on Earth would they get my hopes up & crash them all in the same scene? I really thought Mya was gone for good.

Season 1, Claire gets glass in the skull, can't regenerate until the coroner removes it.

[Gvac]

I watched the season finale last night and it was the first time I'd seen "Heroes" since I caught a couple of episodes last year.

Nothing changed. It is by far the most poorly acted thing I've ever seen on television. They might as well put people holding cue cards in the scenes.

What dreck.

[lleeder]

What if they go back and give everyone Sylar killed some of Claires blood, will they regenerate or he took the part of their brain that would do that? Can Claire or Adam get the virus or do they heal before they can get it? If they heal all viruses then Mohinders blood isn't really that important. Its like Claire blood light.

[StupidGirlllll]

Season 1, Claire gets glass in the skull, can't regenerate until the coroner removes it.

Yea i know thats what I am saying is going to happen if they do shoot peter in the head as soon as the bullet is removed he will come back to life. Remeber seeing all of clairs guts on the table?

[Furtherman]

Yea i know thats what I am saying is going to happen if they do shoot peter in the head as soon as the bullet is removed he will come back to life. Remeber seeing all of clairs guts on the table?

It's possible the brain cannot regenerate. Therefore if a bullet tears through it, the person would die. After all, everything we are is in our brains.

[lleeder]

I wonder if all of that stuff in the vault means something. Brain in a jar. Old timey Key. Whate else was in there?

[StupidGirlllll]

It's possible the brain cannot regenerate. Therefore if a bullet tears through it, the person would die. After all, everything we are is in our brains.

I see your point there but what about Clairs father he was shot in the eye, I am sure it had to hit somepart of his brain. Given his daughter's blood he was aok in no time flat brain & eye intact

[Furtherman]

I saw what looked like playing cards, spread out as if someone was holding them, but only 3 or 4 cards.

[Furtherman]

I see your point there but what about Clairs father he was shot in the eye, I am sure it had to hit somepart of his brain. Given his daughter's blood he was aok in no time flat brain & eye intact

Good point.

But maybe you were right before... Peter wouldn't be able to regenerate until the bullet was removed.

Didn't Mrs. Petrelli say in a previous episode that the only way to kill Adam was to cut off his head?

Maybe she just wanted Peter to be stopped, but not killed, whereas a bullet to the brain would stop him, but not kill him for good.

[StupidGirlllll]

Good point.

But maybe you were right before... Peter wouldn't be able to regenerate until the bullet was removed.

Didn't Mrs. Petrelli say in a previous episode that the only way to kill Adam was to cut off his head?

Maybe she just wanted Peter to be stopped, but not killed, whereas a bullet to the brain would stop him, but not kill him for good.

But if Clairs tip of her finger grew back why couldn't her head be able too?

[lleeder]

Lets just agree that there are no set rules and this shit is being made up on the fly.

[Furtherman]

But if Clairs tip of her finger grew back why couldn't her head be able too?

Well, I think I would go back to my brain theory - whereas it is too complicated to regenerate. Would a new brain with all that it has learned grow out of... what? If it was destroyed, that is.

A limb can grow back, like on some lizards, and it's not as complicated with who we are, but it's just a function.

[Gmann]

I was thinking of it like Zombie rules. The only way you can kill one is to shoot it in the head stopping brain activity.

[MadMatt]

Lets just agree that there are no set rules and this shit is being made up on the fly.

:lol: I think that's a good point. :lol:

[cougarjake13]

Didn't Nathan get a blood transfusion from Adam? Now wouldn't that make his also invincible? I really do not think he is dead, they brought back HRG, so why not Nathan Claires real father. Did they ever tell you what happened to her real mother? At the end when Skyler moved the can with his mind I thought a cockroach was going to come out of the can.

thats what i was thinking but remember mrs petrelli said the only way to kill them was a head shot but i only saw him shot in the stomach so he should still be okay


claires real mom only showed up in those few episodes and thats it


they never explained it any further

[cougarjake13]

TVGuide.com has some quotes from Tim Kring.

The fate of Nathan, who was shot during a TV press conference, and of Niki, who may have died in an abandoned building explosion, are "up in the air and will be determined when we come back after the strike," Kring says. "Things are fairly dire for them both." Immortal Adam was teleported by Hiro (Masi Oka) into a coffin buried in the same Japanese cemetery where his father Kaito (George Takei), who was slain by Adam, is also buried. "It's poetic justice to have Adam end up in the same graveyard as Kaito," Kring notes. "We've given the audience no reason to believe that Adam can figure a way to get out of there. The fact that he can live forever makes this the most gruesome of internments. If this happened to any of us, at least we'd know we'd soon have the mercy of death. Not here."

Exclusive: Tim Kring Explains Heroes' "Generations" Finale (http://www.tvguide.com/news/heroes-generations-finale/071204-01)



he can live forever but not without food

[cougarjake13]

Season 1, Claire gets glass in the skull, can't regenerate until the coroner removes it.

dont remember claire but peter did get glass stuck in his head til claire pulled it out

[WampusCrandle]

claire got glass in her head early early early on in the show, when she was about to get raped by some preppy pretty boy - and that is why she caused the car accident.

[cougarjake13]

claire got glass in her head early early early on in the show, when she was about to get raped by some preppy pretty boy - and that is why she caused the car accident.

yeh i remember the almost rape now

[StupidGirlllll]

he can live forever but not without food

How do you know this? He regenerates so he can live without food, he can eat his own fingers & they will just grow back. I think if you have the power to regenerate you do not ever go hungary.

[cougarjake13]

How do you know this? He regenerates so he can live without food, he can eat his own fingers & they will just grow back. I think if you have the power to regenerate you do not ever go hungary.

was not thinking of that

plus i like the other posters idea of him constantly dying of starvation but then re booting to just do it all over again

[MadMatt]

How do you know this? He regenerates so he can live without food, he can eat his own fingers & they will just grow back. I think if you have the power to regenerate you do not ever go hungary.

That could be the sickest, coolest thing I have ever heard. :clap:

[IMSlacker]

How do you know this? He regenerates so he can live without food, he can eat his own fingers & they will just grow back. I think if you have the power to regenerate you do not ever go hungary.

What about oxygen? Doesn't he need to breathe?

[MadMatt]

What about oxygen? Doesn't he need to breathe?

I brought that up earlier. He would run out of air within a matter of hours.

Of course who knows exactly how his powers work...

[IMSlacker]

I brought that up earlier. He would run out of air within a matter of hours.

Of course who knows exactly how his powers work...

Oh, sorry. That's what I get for only looking at the last page of the thread. So how did Hiro find an empty casket that had already been buried? Did he bury it himself beforehand, or did he teleport a corpse out of there?

edit: damnit! another point that had already been brought up!

[JustJon]

Time travel? Stop time when a casket was about to be buried, switch the bodies, restart time.

[cougarjake13]

novel 61 revolutionary war part 2 (http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/index.shtml?novel=61)




novel 62 special (http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/index.shtml?novel=62)

[IMSlacker]

Time travel? Stop time when a casket was about to be buried, switch the bodies, restart time.

If he did that, then someone might hear Adam yelling/pounding on the casket while it was being buried. I suppose Hiro could have knocked him out first.

[Kevin]

If he did that, then someone might hear Adam yelling/pounding on the casket while it was being buried. I suppose Hiro could have knocked him out first.

When Hiro stops time, everything else stops.. So he didnt have to knock him out.. He was perfectly still..

[IMSlacker]

When Hiro stops time, everything else stops.. So he didnt have to knock him out.. He was perfectly still..

Yeah, but he'd start time back up again for the casket to be buried, unless he did it himself. Seems like an awful lot of work though.

[WampusCrandle]

Yeah, but he'd start time back up again for the casket to be buried, unless he did it himself. Seems like an awful lot of work though.

well, the guy killed Hiro's dad - if i were in that position, i would stop time and do it.

[IMSlacker]

well, the guy killed Hiro's dad - if i were in that position, i would stop time and do it.

OK. Next question: What did he do with the corpse he took out of the casket? I wonder if he just hid it behind some bushes or something.

[cougarjake13]

OK. Next question: What did he do with the corpse he took out of the casket? I wonder if he just hid it behind some bushes or something.

could just be an old casket and there's nothing but bones left

and adam is on top of them

[IMSlacker]

could just be an old casket and there's nothing but bones left

and adam is on top of them

Good point, but I could swear they showed a freshly covered grave site after they showed Adam in the casket. Now I have to re-watch the end of the show.

[cougarjake13]

Good point, but I could swear they showed a freshly covered grave site after they showed Adam in the casket. Now I have to re-watch the end of the show.

if i remember correctly it looked like the cemetary where they buried hiro's mom and later on his father

[IMSlacker]

if i remember correctly it looked like the cemetary where they buried hiro's mom and later on his father

OK, I watched the scene again, and it's definitely a fresh grave in the same cemetery as Hiro's parents. My guess is that Hiro put Adam in his father's casket, and he has his dad on ice somewhere.

[cougarjake13]

OK, I watched the scene again, and it's definitely a fresh grave in the same cemetery as Hiro's parents. My guess is that Hiro put Adam in his father's casket, and he has his dad on ice somewhere.

did it look like he was on top of someone ??? or in there alone ???

[IMSlacker]

did it look like he was on top of someone ??? or in there alone ???

Couldn't really tell for sure. But if he was on top of a fresh corpse, he would have really been smooshed up against the lid. Looked like he had some wiggle room in there.

[WampusCrandle]

i just took another look, it is a fresh grave, and i think the writers are making it at his father's funeral, just because if it was in the past, he would probably have made it out. also, from the angles, it didnt seem like there were any other bones or body in the coffin with adam.

[ToLEEdo]

Holy crap we are still talking about this. I am going to give it to hole in plot line. Simply because if no one figured it out by now that is because there is no logical explanation.

[drusilla]

finally watched last night. i really really really hope that niki is dead & i really wish that maya was still dead. i'll miss nathan if he's gone.

& what hiro did to adam is totally sick & totally awesome.

[IamFogHat]

What's going to happen with Adam's doodies in there?

[cougarjake13]

What's going to happen with Adam's doodies in there?

maybe thats what he'll eat

[drusilla]

gross

[CruelCircus]

Nathan getting shot was so fucking predicable.

Actually, not to me.

I was thinking that the Company would plant someone in the room who could dampen their powers (like the bald kid in X-Men 3), and when they tried to show them off they'd fall flat on their face and be completely discredited in the media.

I guess I was thinking too hard.

[Furtherman]

Holy crap we are still talking about this. I am going to give it to hole in plot line. Simply because if no one figured it out by now that is because there is no logical explanation.

I already did figure it out.

Hiro can freeze time, including Adam, in time. He could have frozen time and arranged that whole tomb and set it up so he'd be trapped.

[cougarjake13]

Chapter 63 - ELLE'S FIRST ASSIGNMENT - PART ONE
(http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/index.shtml?novel=63)


Chapter 64 - ELLE'S FIRST ASSIGNMENT - PART TWO (http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/index.shtml?novel=64)

Chapter 65 - NORMAL LIVES (http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/index.shtml?novel=65)

Chapter 66 - THE TEN BRIDES OF TAKEZO KENSEI (http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/index.shtml?novel=66)

Chapter 67 - THE GOLDEN GOOSE (http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/index.shtml?novel=67)

Chapter 68 - THE MAN WITH TOO (MUCH) BRAINS (http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/index.shtml?novel=68)

Chapter 69 - HANA AND DRUCKER'S PLOT DISCOVERED
(http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/index.shtml?novel=69)

Chapter 70 - THE END OF HANA AND DRUCKER
(http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/index.shtml?novel=70)

Chapter 71 - THE HISTORY OF A SECRET (http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/index.shtml?novel=71)

Chapter 72 - PAST EXPERIENCE (http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/index.shtml?novel=72)

[WampusCrandle]

now, i was reading up on whether or not there was going to be any new episodes coming soon, and i was getting a bit confused. the show is coming back for a third season, but will there be any new episodes for season 2? can anyone tell me?

[PapaBear]

The day the strike ended, I saw on the news that there wouldn't be any. When I tried to find a link about it to post here, all I found were news articles saying that they probably would have more. So my answer is, "I have no idea".

[WampusCrandle]

ah, ok, i just wasnt sure. the new season sounds like it would kick ass, btw. it is entitled "villians" which can only be good as long as they dont treat it like the second season.

[CruelCircus]

I wonder if we're ever going to get the "Origins" episodes, where Kevin Smith was supposed to be one of the guest directors.

[WampusCrandle]

i actually did my own research and found that Origins isnt canceled, but as of right now it is indefinitely shelved, which makes me mad. i bet it would have been great - i really hope that they bring it back

[CruelCircus]

i actually did my own research
:dry:

[cougarjake13]

i actually did my own research and found that Origins isnt canceled, but as of right now it is indefinitely shelved, which makes me mad. i bet it would have been great - i really hope that they bring it back

god damn fuckers

[WampusCrandle]

:dry:

:nono:

[WampusCrandle]

god damn fuckers

im pretty pissed about it myself. of course, they could still do it, but anything put on a shelf is not a good sign. i will say that they are going to keep Kristine Bell on.

here's the preview for the third volume:

<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/5iBLZ_4rTuQ&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/5iBLZ_4rTuQ&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

[cougarjake13]

im pretty pissed about it myself. of course, they could still do it, but anything put on a shelf is not a good sign. i will say that they are going to keep Kristine Bell on.

here's the preview for the third volume:

<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/5iBLZ_4rTuQ&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/5iBLZ_4rTuQ&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>



sweet

[WampusCrandle]

i was soo stoked that they are already started making new episodes. plus, it doesnt look like they are going to have some silly love story. it looks bad ass. i am like a hero freak, i love the show! i am rewatching the first season now, almost done with it, and going to rewatch the second season, though not up to par.

[cougarjake13]

i was soo stoked that they are already started making new episodes. plus, it doesnt look like they are going to have some silly love story. it looks bad ass. i am like a hero freak, i love the show! i am rewatching the first season now, almost done with it, and going to rewatch the second season, though not up to par.

great


so prob fall 08 then ??

[spadanko]

here we go.. some updates from TV guide

Question: I'm dying for some juicy Heroes scoop! — Stacie
Ausiello: Well, this is about as juicy as it comes: Kristen Bell is not — I repeat, not — signed on for next season. But (and this is a big "but," so listen up) sources confirm that Heroes is in active discussions with her to return for an arc during Season 3. And considering how much everyone at the show worships her — and she them — I have every reason to believe that this will happen.

Question: I have a Heroes question: Are they going back to work on new episodes in the spring, even if they will not air until the fall? Is that how NBC is able to order more than 22 for next season? — Pat
Ausiello: Nothing gets by you, Pat. Yes, Heroes is tentatively slated to start production on Season 3 on May 1 — more than two months ahead of schedule. As a result, the show could have as many as 10-13 episodes already in the can by the time it returns in September.

Question: I'm so sad to hear that Heroes isn't returning until the fall. Do you have any idea what we can expect for next season? — Holly
Ausiello: Let's just say that over the next few months the show's casting offices will be filled with actors who are very good at being very bad.