NFL Offseason Discussion

[cougarjake13]

Free-agent RB Turner agrees to 6-year deal

sorry spoon




Free-agent-RB-Turner-agrees-to-6-year-deal (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7863964/Free-agent-RB-Turner-agrees-to-6-year-deal)

[TheMojoPin]

Bears somehow resigned Briggs, but not Berrian.

Color me very surprised.

[JimBeam]

Patriots lost another guy.

Randall Gay signed w/ the Saints.

6 years $17 million.

As a Saints fan I'm not sure how I feel about that.

I know we were awful in the secondary last year but I might've liked to see them address this in the draft and now they might not.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Free-agent RB Turner agrees to 6-year deal

sorry spoon




Free-agent-RB-Turner-agrees-to-6-year-deal (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7863964/Free-agent-RB-Turner-agrees-to-6-year-deal)


wow

the Falcons just got a lot better

now they just need a somewhat okay QB

[cougarjake13]

Bears somehow resigned Briggs, but not Berrian.

Color me very surprised.

i seen an article interview with briggs that said that b/c the bears didnt sign berrian it left them money to sign me ( briggs )

[cougarjake13]

Patriots lost another guy.

Randall Gay signed w/ the Saints.

6 years $17 million.

As a Saints fan I'm not sure how I feel about that.

I know we were awful in the secondary last year but I might've liked to see them address this in the draft and now they might not.


they also got vilma from the jets

[Fallon]

Bears somehow resigned Briggs, but not Berrian.

Color me very surprised.

Ok.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8159/mohona8.jpg

[Crippler]

Bears somehow resigned Briggs, but not Berrian.

Color me very surprised.

Add that to Muhsin going back to Carolina...whenever they decide which failure gets yet another chance to start at QB next season, who's he throwing to besides Olsen?

I'm really glad to see Briggs stay in Chicago but when are they going to address the offense? And I don't count the re-signings of Orton & Grossman as doing so.

[cougarjake13]

Add that to Muhsin going back to Carolina...whenever they decide which failure gets yet another chance to start at QB next season, who's he throwing to besides Olsen?

I'm really glad to see Briggs stay in Chicago but when are they going to address the offense? And I don't count the re-signings of Orton & Grossman as doing so.


stallworth signed with cleveland

so what other wr free agents are out there ???


moss i think ???

[TheMojoPin]

Add that to Muhsin going back to Carolina...whenever they decide which failure gets yet another chance to start at QB next season, who's he throwing to besides Olsen?

I'm really glad to see Briggs stay in Chicago but when are they going to address the offense? And I don't count the re-signings of Orton & Grossman as doing so.

Thank God Mosse is gone. He's old and nearly useless.

The offense was always likely to be addressed mostly in the draft or through trades. They're ideally going to be targeting strengthening the O-line and the running game through these means, since those are their biggest holes.

[Sinestro]

David Carr to the Giants.

Will he beat out Jared lorenzo for lunch?

[Crippler]

David Carr to the Giants.
Will he beat out Jared lorenzo for lunch?

not likely...

PRINT IT!
(an homage to Rodney Harrison)

[Ogre]

Some buzz lately on the "future" or lack therof for PacMan Jones. This is from his agent trying to justify his "choice" of new suitors.

Jones' agent, Manubir Arora, told ESPN on Friday it's his understanding that Dallas, New England and Detroit are interested.
"We want to go to an established team with good infrastructure and leadership," Arora told ESPN. "Both the Cowboys and Patriots have veteran coaches who have been through these kinds of things before, good player liaisons and mentoring, and if you have those things and a winning program, then I think all these problems go away. (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080322/SPORTS01/803220340/1049)

Tell that to the paralyzed fella in Vegas. Yeah all of PacMan's prollens magically go away. unfuckinbeleivable :wallbash:

[TheGameHHH]

As a Pats fan, id welcome Pacman.

[underdog]

As a Pats fan, id welcome Pacman.

I'm with you on that. I see other Patriots fans freaking out about how bad it would be to bring him to the team, and how detrimental he'd be to the team.

Like Moss, Dillon, Meriweather, and Harrison were, too.

Plus, its the NFL. If he's a distraction, you cut him.

[Ogre]

I'm with you on that. I see other Patriots fans freaking out about how bad it would be to bring him to the team, and how detrimental he'd be to the team.

Like Moss, Dillon, Meriweather, and Harrison were, too.

Plus, its the NFL. If he's a distraction, you cut him.

I just do not get how he is lumped in with those guys...he is a reprobate unlike these professionals. He was a punk at WVU and has been nothing short of an embarrsment in the pros. He is a great athlete, nothing more. I dunno I think there is a line between womanizing and partying and gunplay because you are a rich spoiled bitch. Somewhere he crossed it and will never get it back. I do not care how many INTS and Returns for touchdowns soemone might bring. He and his Posse are responsible for a man not being able to walk ever again. How badly does any team wish to hoist the Lombardi trophy ? Only Jerry Jones would be above such contempt. I hope he blows up in the face of any NFL team wishing to retain his services. If you hire him you hire a carjacker in shoulder pads.

[Kevin]

I just do not get how he is lumped in with those guys...he is a reprobate unlike these professionals. He was a punk at WVU and has been nothing short of an embarrsment in the pros. He is a great athlete, nothing more. I dunno I think there is a line between womanizing and partying and gunplay because you are a rich spoiled bitch. Somewhere he crossed it and will never get it back. I do not care how many INTS and Returns for touchdowns soemone might bring. He and his Posse are responsible for a man not being able to walk ever again. How badly does any team wish to hoist the Lombardi trophy ? Only Jerry Jones would be above such contempt. I hope he blows up in the face of any NFL team wishing to retain his services. If you hire him you hire a carjacker in shoulder pads.

Ogre, I know what you mean and what your intentions are. But as sports fans, all we want is our team to win. Is it fair that this thug is not in jail? No.. If he wasn't as talented as he is, he would be. But life is not fair and we really have to deal with it. If the Pats don't take a chance someone else will. You are telling me that if the Skins had a shot to get Ray Lewis in 2000 that you wouldn't be doing cartwheels?

As for the Pats, Why should you be surprised? You paint Jerry Jones as this vilan but what has he really done that is against the rules? Sure he is a pompous jack ass and is not likable, but in the end he does care about his team and more than not follows the rules. I think Kraft is MUUUUUUUCH worse. He portrays himself to be this good guy and humble guy. Does not talk on tv, but makes sure behind the scenes that his buddies on the TV networks put him on camra every 5 mins or so. Then He is at the helm when his team shamelessly cheats.

My point is. Guys like Jones and George Stienbruner. Teams like the Yanks (Big fan)and Cowboys (WHO I HATE) Get hated on and called evil just because at most times follow the rules. Does it bother me that they spend like they do and are such assholes at times? Yes. But on the other hand you have to be fair when they do good shit. Like The Yanks with VT.. This board is a perfect example. Yankee haters are quick to jump on them when they do something stupid or "wrong" But not one did i see post on how much of an awesome job they did with VT.. My point is. People get passes. If It were Jerry Jones who won all those SBs and was caught cheating, This would have been SOOOOOOOO much bigger. But Mr goodie phony behind the scenes Kraft. Gets nothing. Bellichek takes the heat. Which he should. But Kraft is jut as bad.

Thats life my man, and you really can't change it. So if my team can get better, i say welcome it. Because some other team will run you over to do the same.

[Snoogans]

Geroge Stienbruner?

Keep your yankee propaganda outta the football thread


and learn to spell your owners name

[Kevin]

Geroge Stienbruner?

Keep your yankee propaganda outta the football thread


and learn to spell your owners name

Thanks BDC

[Ogre]

Damn Kevin...it's not asmuch about life as it is about our social beliefs and mores. I really do understand about the "that's life" or that's "rules of the game" argument. I get it. It's about the hardware and the cash. However, on a much larger discussion of the human condition and how we interact, somewhere just somewhere cannot we say enough? There is a man in Vegas that cannot walk because of the actions of him and his peeps. It is well documented. He is a thug. Period. I get it. That's the NFL. Also real is the fact that the guy in Vegas that happened to be working (yeah just a workin stiff like the rest of us) as a bouncer in some club got shot. Shot because he was at his job. You know just like the thing we all do...everyday. So there you are learning how to piss into a bag and oh by the way...... (INSERT DUMBASS OWNER HERE) tells NFL network that this miscreant(Ms. Jones) is one f the faces of the future of your beloved team.......I call bullshit. Do what you will with the thuggasaurus.

[Snacks]

i hate the pats but love pacman jones. he is a beast of a player. most fans dont care about the person outside of the game, good or bad. if the player is a good player, let him play. im so tired of people thinking someone who has made mistakes shouldnt have a right to earn a living. at the end of the day he never got convicted of anything so he should be allowed to play, period end of story.

[Ogre]

i hate the pats but love pacman jones. he is a beast of a player. most fans dont care about the person outside of the game, good or bad. if the player is a good player, let him play. im so tired of people thinking someone who has made mistakes shouldnt have a right to earn a living. at the end of the day he never got convicted of anything so he should be allowed to play, period end of story.

What about the guy in a wheelchair's right to make a living. Does some perverted cash settlement so the Jones can make a dollar make it all go away ? There are plenty of skilled players pining for the opportunity. I understand that most NFL fans are morons. Does that make it OK that dude is iin a wheelchair and PacMan has shitty slick ass lawyers ? Come on man.

[Ogre]

What if you were on the chair and some slick ass millionaire got away with helping put you there?

[underdog]

My point is. Guys like Jones and George Stienbruner. Teams like the Yanks (Big fan)and Cowboys (WHO I HATE) Get hated on and called evil just because at most times follow the rules.

WHAT?! Are you seriously telling me that Steinbrenner follows the rules? He's been suspended from baseball. TWICE.

Get your head out of the fucking clouds. The guys owning teams are always the same. There's a reason they are billionaires. They are ruthless and bend (or break) the rules when they can. There's no difference between guys like Steinbrenner, Jones or Kraft.

What about the guy in a wheelchair's right to make a living. Does some perverted cash settlement so the Jones can make a dollar make it all go away ?

You keep mentioning the guy in the wheelchair. Pacman shot him? I'm not really that familiar with this case, I just know that most of the cases that Pacman got suspended for a year from football for have been thrown out of court. Is this one of those?

[underdog]

What if you were on the chair and some slick ass millionaire got away with helping put you there?

I'd be happy that I had met Pacman Jones instead of Ray Lewis.

[Snacks]

WHAT?! Are you seriously telling me that Steinbrenner follows the rules? He's been suspended from baseball. TWICE.

Get your head out of the fucking clouds. The guys owning teams are always the same. There's a reason they are billionaires. They are ruthless and bend (or break) the rules when they can. There's no difference between guys like Steinbrenner, Jones or Kraft.



You keep mentioning the guy in the wheelchair. Pacman shot him? I'm not really that familiar with this case, I just know that most of the cases that Pacman got suspended for a year from football for have been thrown out of court. Is this one of those?

no he did not shoot the guy. it is alleged that someone he knew shot the guy. even if it was one of his friends he had nothing to do with it. the guy in the wheelchair is get more money from suing the person who didnt shoot him (pacman) then he would have made in his life. he was a bouncer at a go go bar and hes like 40. im not saying he dereved it or that his life didnt mater. but shit happens like this everyday in america. the only reason its a story is because he is a nfl player.

[underdog]

no he did not shoot the guy. it is alleged that someone he knew shot the guy. even if it was one of his friends he had nothing to do with it. the guy on the wheelchair is get more money from suing the person who didnt shoot him (pacman) then he would have made in his life. he was a bouncer at a go go var and hes like 40.

He's also suing the NFL, or working towards doing that because Goddell supposedly said the NFL would help him out but they never have.

[Snacks]

He's also suing the NFL, or working towards doing that because Goddell supposedly said the NFL would help him out but they never have.

thats horse shit. what did the nfl have to do with it? he was employed by them they arent his babysitters. i dont think he should have gotten a penny from pacman. pacman didnt shoot him, they werent on pacmans property. he should have sued his boss for not having enough security. better yet he should blame himself and or the other bouncers for not checking everyone when they came in. i manged night clubs for 10/12 years and everyone goes through a metal detector or get checked by a wand and or frisked.

[Ogre]

well here is the story on Urbanski suing the NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3250283)

I dont know if I can buy into the argument that it was everybody else's fault BUT PacMan. He struck a plea. He slithered through the legal system, like people of means often do. My Opinion is that he is a fuckin piece of shit. And nobdy can sue me for that, so I guess that's it.

[underdog]

well here is the story on Urbanski suing the NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3250283)

I dont know if I can buy into the argument that it was everybody else's fault BUT PacMan. He struck a plea. He slithered through the legal system, like people of means often do. My Opinion is that he is a fuckin piece of shit. And nobdy can sue me for that, so I guess that's it.

I don't think it was everyone else's fault. I think it was the guy who fired the shots fault. I don't understand how you're just blaming this on Pacman. Someone who wasn't Jones, fired a gun that paralyzed the man.

[Snacks]

the article is ridiculous and the commnets below the article agree. the nfl has nothing to do with this. this is another example of people trying to sue everyone with out merit.

im not saying its everyone elses fault but pacmans. im saying its not pacmans fault at all. he did not pull out a gun and fire it. the plea that he had was because he wouldnt help the police with the investigation. he wasnt charged with anything else. the guilty people are the guy who fired the gun and security for not preventing the gun from being brought inside. thats how i see it and no one can sue me either.

i hope the family gets nothing from the nfl. they have no obligation at all and its a shame that a court would even hear this. but at least they dismissed it already. the family should stop waisting their time and money and save what they do have for his future. because they arent get a penny from the nfl or the titans.

[Kevin]

WHAT?! Are you seriously telling me that Steinbrenner follows the rules? He's been suspended from baseball. TWICE.

Get your head out of the fucking clouds. The guys owning teams are always the same. There's a reason they are billionaires. They are ruthless and bend (or break) the rules when they can. There's no difference between guys like Steinbrenner, Jones or Kraft.


I will give you George because of the suspensions. However long ago that was.. But you cant compare Jones and Kraft. Jones has never been caught cheating.. Kraft has..

I was making George as an example of how he gets shitted on for the bad things that he does as he should. But no one talks about the countless good deeds he has done.

Question though.. What did he get suspended for? I am too lazy to do reaserch.

[underdog]

I will give you George because of the suspensions. However long ago that was.. But you cant compare Jones and Kraft. Jones has never been caught cheating.. Kraft has..

I was making George as an example of how he gets shitted on for the bad things that he does as he should. But no one talks about the countless good deeds he has done.

Question though.. What did he get suspended for? I am too lazy to do reaserch.

Kraft was never caught cheating, either. His coach was. Its very possible for Kraft never to have known. Not many people seemed to have known, except for Belichick's inner circle.

Steinbrenner was suspended for hiring someone to dig up dirt on Dave Winfield and for illegally giving money to Nixon. Neither was cheating on the baseball field, but the beginning argument was about ethics, something most owners have none of.

Also, if it came out that Jones was involved in cheating, would it surprise you?

[Snoogans]

I will give you George because of the suspensions. However long ago that was.. But you cant compare Jones and Kraft. Jones has never been caught cheating.. Kraft has..

I was making George as an example of how he gets shitted on for the bad things that he does as he should. But no one talks about the countless good deeds he has done.

Question though.. What did he get suspended for? I am too lazy to do reaserch.

what a fan

[Kevin]

Kraft was never caught cheating, either. His coach was. Its very possible for Kraft never to have known. Not many people seemed to have known, except for Belichick's inner circle.

Steinbrenner was suspended for hiring someone to dig up dirt on Dave Winfield and for illegally giving money to Nixon. Neither was cheating on the baseball field, but the beginning argument was about ethics, something most owners have none of.

Also, if it came out that Jones was involved in cheating, would it surprise you?

Prob not, but it has not happened.. And i have a tough time thinking that a man as hands on as Kraft did not know what went on.

Yea, the George thing was indeed bad, but not cheating. I don't care what people do off the field.

Are owners all douchebags? Absolutely. But as of now.. Knowing or not, Kraft was at the helm for prob the worst thing a team can do. Cheating.. Have other teams done this. Prob so, but Kraft got caught and no one else has.

[Ogre]

It is pretty obvious that there is a lack of ethics across the board in pro sports. I guess the next thing that everyone will tell me is that there is no Easter Bunny and Santa is a fake too. Just struck me as odd about the willingness to accept PacMan back in the
NFL after this shooting incident. I know that he copped a plea and technically he did not pull the trigger of the gun that shot the bouncer. Just seems to me that if Pac and his pussies, I mean posse, were not packin and acting like gangsta's dude would not be in a wheelchair. Somewhere someone has to be accountable. By PM not cooperating with Police and pleading to another charge, it seems like the guy that was the driving force behind this tragedy...........walks.

[underdog]

Just seems to me that if Pac and his pussies, I mean posse, were not packin and acting like gangsta's dude would not be in a wheelchair.

You just described basically everyone who went to Las Vegas that same weekend.

Somewhere someone has to be accountable. By PM not cooperating with Police and pleading to another charge, it seems like the guy that was the driving force behind this tragedy...........walks.

The person who should be accountable should be the person who shot him.

How was Pacman the driving force behind this tragedy? Wouldn't the guy who shot the bouncer be the driving force behind the tragedy?

You keep singling out Pacman. He didn't shoot the guy. The courts had him plea to a deal. Maybe they had him plea to what he did because its all he did.

[Ogre]

You just described basically everyone who went to Las Vegas that same weekend.



The person who should be accountable should be the person who shot him.

How was Pacman the driving force behind this tragedy? Wouldn't the guy who shot the bouncer be the driving force behind the tragedy?

You keep singling out Pacman. He didn't shoot the guy. The courts had him plea to a deal. Maybe they had him plea to what he did because its all he did.

You are right I was not there, but PacMan knows who did it.

[underdog]

You are right I was not there, but PacMan knows who did it.

You should be attacking that awful street culture of "Stop Snitchin'" or whatever the fuck it is.

[Kevin]

Good News Redskin fans!!!!

You get to watch My NY Giants raise up their SuperBowl banner, and get their rings!!!

Giants Vs Redskins, NFL opener Thursday Sept 4!

[Knowledged_one]

Redskins open up in New York against the Giants on Thursday night

Prediction: Skins win, Chad Johnson has 137 yards and 2 TD's in his first game for the skins

[Kevin]

Redskins open up in New York against the Giants on Thursday night

Prediction: Skins win, Chad Johnson has 137 yards and 2 TD's in his first game for the skins

Prediction.. Your QB gets destroyed and does not have time to throw it to anyone. And even if you get Chad, he will be just like every receiver you get. An aging downslope bust.

[Ogre]

Prediction.. Your QB gets destroyed and does not have time to throw it to anyone. And even if you get Chad, he will be just like every receiver you get. An aging downslope bust.

I like getting the Meadowlands game out of the way early. That place literally "blows" in November and December. That is going to be a baptisim by fire for the Zornster. I hate being the high profile Danny Boy Skins. We draw the HOF game and the Thursday night opener. I liked when we got ignored by the media. I liked when we played in that dump RFK. I hate fuckin Danny Snyder....hate him hate him hate him hate him hate him.....You can keep that crybaby Chad too. That being said...Skins 27-13 Portis goes off for 124 and 2 TDs..Cooley has 6 grabs for 90 and a TD. NO SACKS for your D. Book it.

[Kevin]

I like getting the Meadowlands game out of the way early. That place literally "blows" in November and December. That is going to be a baptisim by fire for the Zornster. I hate being the high profile Danny Boy Skins. We draw the HOF game and the Thursday night opener. I liked when we got ignored by the media. I liked when we played in that dump RFK. I hate fuckin Danny Snyder....hate him hate him hate him hate him hate him.....You can keep that crybaby Chad too. That being said...Skins 27-13 Portis goes off for 124 and 2 TDs..Cooley has 6 grabs for 90 and a TD. NO SACKS for your D. Book it.

Really? Is the entire Giant D line gunna get hurt before that game?

[Knowledged_one]

Really? Is the entire Giant D line gunna get hurt before that game?

no KHB is going to guarentee a Giants victory

[Kevin]

no KHB is going to guarentee a Giants victory

Shit.

[underdog]

-- No more force outs. A receiver will have to have both feet in bounds in order for a catch to be made unless he is carried out of bounds. If he's pushed out, it's no reception. The vote was 31-1.

-- The right to defer. Teams can now defer the decision whether to kickoff after winning the opening coin toss, same as in the college game. If a team defers, it has the option in the second half of choosing to receive or to defend a certain goal. "It's an individual thing," Titans coach Jeff Fisher said of how often he thinks teams will defer. "It will be interesting to see what the philosophy will be." The vote was 28-4.

-- Instant replay on field goals and extra points. The replay will be limited to whether the attempt clears the crossbar or makes it through the uprights. It cannont be used on kicks in which the officials make a judgment call on kicks that pass over the upright. The vote was 32-0.

-- Eliminating the 5-yard facemask penalty. It will be a 15-yard penalty if a player grabs and twists an opponent's facemask. Any other contact will fall under the guidelines of illegal hands to the face. The vote was 28-4.

-- A snap that does not touch the quarterbacks hands is no longer a false start. Regardless of whether it hits the quarterback's hands, it's a live ball.

-- If a player attempts a forward handoff beyond the line of scrimmage and fumbles the ball is live. Previously, it was considered an illegal forward pass and constituted a 5-yard penalty and loss of down.

The proposal that called for a new playoff seeding format had such weak support that it never made it to a formal vote. Teams were clearly not ready to go to a format that rewarded home playoff games to wild card teams with better records than division winners.

===

I don't like the force out change at all.

[Fallon]

I don't like the force out change at all.
Yeah, that's the only one I have a problem with. It's gonna fuck up the sideline passing, especially in a two minute drill.

[Ogre]

Yeah, that's the only one I have a problem with. It's gonna fuck up the sideline passing, especially in a two minute drill.

I would have to agree. DBs will be playing the reciever much more agressively on the outs. It does erase a big grey area on late game tying or go ahead TDs. Either he sticks both feet or not. I like taking the referee's "opinion" out of the equation.

[cougarjake13]

http://en.wilogo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/new_logo_NFL.jpg

[cougarjake13]

http://www.rebirthstudios.com/articles/images/nfl-logo-shields.gif

[Ogre]

looks kinda freaky...like the Allied States of America flag in Jericho. Next thing you will tell me is that they will start playing football in England...Gawd....this IS fuckin Earth 2

[cougarjake13]

looks kinda freaky...like the Allied States of America flag in Jericho. Next thing you will tell me is that they will start playing football in England...Gawd....this IS fuckin Earth 2

had the same thought

[underdog]

Bryant Gumbel will no longer do play-by-play for NFL Network (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3342289&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)

[cougarjake13]

Bryant Gumbel will no longer do play-by-play for NFL Network (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3342289&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)

great news

[JimBeam]

I'm listening to the story about the WR kid from Oklahoma who complained about having to run his Pro Day sprints on natural turf.

He's pissed at the university who apparently had no say in what field is used because it's run by the NFL.

He wanted to run on Astroturf in order to come up w/ a better time.

Ran a 4.68 and a 4.72 which is more than a LB prospect on his team ran ( 4.67 ).

They really should let him run on whatever service he wants instead of the surface actually used in most of the league.

What a jerkoff.

Was supposed to be a late 1st rounder and now may drop to the 4th with the time and the attitude.

[cogsdoc]

great news

That is great news. Even better news would be if they replaced Collinsworth as well

[cougarjake13]

That is great news. Even better news would be if they replaced Collinsworth as well

i dont think we'll get that lucky

[Justice4all]

Well the scheduals are out.

Here is the Giants:
Regular Season
Thu 9/4 Washington 7:00 pm
Sun 9/14 at St. Louis 1:00 pm
Sun 9/21 Cincinnati 1:00 pm
bye
Sun 10/5 Seattle 1:00 pm
Mon 10/13 at Cleveland 8:30 pm
Sun 10/19 San Francisco 1:00 pm
Sun 10/26 at Pittsburgh 4:15 pm
Sun 11/2 Dallas 4:15 pm
Sun 11/9 at Philadelphia 8:15 pm
Sun 11/16 Baltimore 1:00 pm
Sun 11/23 at Arizona 4:15 pm
Sun 11/30 at Washington 1:00 pm
Sun 12/7 Philadelphia 1:00 pm
Sun 12/14 at Dallas 8:15 pm
Sun 12/21 Carolina 1:00 pm
Sun 12/28 at Minnesota 1:00 pm



Two things kinda suck.
#1. We get a bye week so early in the season. I hate that. I would rather it be further down. Give them a bit of a mid-season rest like last year after they went to London.
#2. The ONLY later game at home (as of right now) is the Dallas game. Hopefully the Philly game might change too because it is at that time in the season where the NFL might switch the times.

Thank god the washington game is the first game of the season, it won't be as freezing like last time.

The Baltimore game would be a good one. Two great defensive teams going at it.
And only ONE Monday Night Football game? What the hell is that???
At least the Sunday Games of the week are against the rivals.

And when the Gmen play the cowboys and eagles they usually seem to be great games to watch. Win OR lose.

[Knowledged_one]

By "we" you meant "they" right?

And Baltimore is on such a down slope its not even funny, the NFC East i think will be top dog again with easy match ups against the AFC North and NFC West

Redskins have a tough break, 3 road games in the first 5 against NFC East opponents is gonna make it tough for the skins

[Justice4all]

By "we" you meant "they" right?




Oh god not another one of you!!! :laugh:

no I mean we.
I buy tickets.
I pay help pay their salaries.
And as a fan, I become attached to the team and feel I am a part of it.
If you go to a game and say 'we've got to throw it on 3rd down' the guy sitting next to you isn't going to stop to say 'Don't you mean THEY have to'?

[Knowledged_one]

not to be persnickity but when the Giants thanked everyone did they say:

We want to thank our fans, for supporting us

or

we want to thank us for supporting us

[Justice4all]

not to be persnickity but when the Giants thanked everyone did they say:

We want to thank our fans, for supporting us

or

we want to thank us for supporting us

Ok...point taken.
I still feel the attachment to the team, as I am sure others do too.


That and it's great to be able to use the word 'persnickity' in a sentence.

[Knowledged_one]

However, i also catch myself at times saying we like when talking to my brother just recently about the draft, i said we (as in the redskins) just got a supplemental 3rd round pick

I hate being such a nazi on that point I am trying my best to not be so bad about it

[TheGameHHH]

However, i also catch myself at times saying we like when talking to my brother just recently about the draft, i said we (as in the redskins) just got a supplemental 3rd round pick

I hate being such a nazi on that point I am trying my best to not be so bad about it

i do my best to never say 'we' either, but sometimes i find myself slipping. you invest so much both financially and emotionally that sometimes its too difficult to not say 'we'

[Ogre]

i do my best to never say 'we' either, but sometimes i find myself slipping. you invest so much both financially and emotionally that sometimes its too difficult to not say 'we'


I dont think this assclown even knows I exist
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1755000/images/_1755920_snyder150.jpg

[Justice4all]

but is it REALLY that big of a faux-pah that is shouldn't be done?
So if someone says 'we' and you get what they meant...what's the big deal?


Just curious is all

[Knowledged_one]

No its not a big deal, it just makes me cringe when i hear we in reference to a team. The reason is a lot of people go so overboard with the usage of "we" its like they start to actually talk as if they are members of the team

[Justice4all]

Well if there was ONE thing I am sure of it is I never would think I was a member of an NFL football team....I am not that deranged!:laugh:

[keithy_19]

No its not a big deal, it just makes me cringe when i hear we in reference to a team. The reason is a lot of people go so overboard with the usage of "we" its like they start to actually talk as if they are members of the team

When I was little I played on the jets. It was the pop warner team in my town.

I never say I'm a memebr of the jets...

[Kevin]

When I was little I played on the jets. It was the pop warner team in my town.

I never say I'm a memebr of the jets...

Too bad, you probably have a better arm than Chad.

[keithy_19]

Too bad, you probably have a better arm than Chad.

A parapalegic has a better arm than Chad.

[Kevin]

A parapalegic has a better arm than Chad.

Good point..







AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND Tenbats in 3...2....

[BoondockSaint]

Good point..







AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND Tenbats in 3...2....


That might not be enough. Here, let me help. Joe Namath shouldn't even be allowed to buy a ticket to the Hall of Fame, never mind be enshrined there.

[Kevin]

That might not be enough. Here, let me help. Joe Namath shouldn't even be allowed to buy a ticket to the Hall of Fame, never mind be enshrined there.

And Eli Manning is a real man.

[BoondockSaint]

And Eli Manning is a real man.


You won't see him in pantyhose.

[Kevin]

You won't see him in pantyhose.

Or fur coats.

Catch 42 if Nameth threw it would still be catch 42, but the 42 would be a CB taking it to the house.

[BoondockSaint]

Or fur coats.

Catch 42 if Nameth threw it would still be catch 42, but the 42 would be a CB taking it to the house.

While Namath was winking at a guy in the stands.

[Kevin]

While Namath was winking at a guy in the stands.

And saying Can i kiss you? I really want to kiss you.

[keithy_19]

And saying Can i kiss you? I really want to kiss you.

Hey, who wasn't used that line?

















When your five.

[JimBeam]

So I'm listening to some Jet fan on the radio this morning saying that they shouldn't take McFadden with a pick because he has kids out of wedlock.

So because a young college kid made what could be, and should be, considered a poor choice it's worse than that piece of shit Tom Brady knocking up a woman and then moving on to another ?

Does Brady's actions make him an " off the field issue " ?

I'm no huge fan of McFadden, as anybody who read my lobbying against him for the Heisman this year knows, but I hate to see a guy's character, and NFL projection, get ruined because he made the same stupid, careless mistake that dozen's of regular HS and college kids make any year.

[cougarjake13]

So I'm listening to some Jet fan on the radio this morning saying that they shouldn't take McFadden with a pick because he has kids out of wedlock.

So because a young college kid made what could be, and should be, considered a poor choice it's worse than that piece of shit Tom Brady knocking up a woman and then moving on to another ?

Does Brady's actions make him an " off the field issue " ?

I'm no huge fan of McFadden, as anybody who read my lobbying against him for the Heisman this year knows, but I hate to see a guy's character, and NFL projection, get ruined because he made the same stupid, careless mistake that dozen's of regular HS and college kids make any year.


and actually theres no proof that they're his kids, he's taking ownership of them but im sure that he'll get the paternity test soon

[JimBeam]

I also don't see how it effects his talent.

It's not like he has a drinking or drug problem.

He just doesn't like to wrap it before he taps it I guess.

All that aside I'm not sure he won't just be another Reggie Bush ( and boy am I hoping that turns around ).

[cougarjake13]

I also don't see how it effects his talent.

It's not like he has a drinking or drug problem.

He just doesn't like to wrap it before he taps it I guess.

All that aside I'm not sure he won't just be another Reggie Bush ( and boy am I hoping that turns around ).


i think mcfadden has had more success at the college level then bush

bush was part of a 2 back system

mcfadden was the focus

[JimBeam]

Bush was the reason USC beat Fresno St that year which allowed them to go and play Texas in the BCS title game.

Plus you're forgettting that McFadden had a guy spelling him named Felix Jones who will also be picked in the first round so he wasn't exactly a one man team.

If anything I think people knew right away that Bush wouldn't be effective as a pure RB and you'd need to isolate plays for him and I think those are the same concerns w/ McFadden.

Get him on a team where he's not carrying the whole load and he can be dangerous.

[Tenbatsuzen]

A parapalegic has a better arm than Chad.

Good point..







AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND Tenbats in 3...2....


You fucking dope, of course a parapalegic has a better arm than Chad because they're constantly wheeling their chair around. Ever see Murderball? Those guys are ripped.

The term you were looking for was QUADRAPELEGIC.

[Tenbatsuzen]

If the Jets drafted Slaton and/or Owen Scmitt, I'd be a very happy camper.

Not happening though.

ESPN did a total Slam piece on McFadden today about his "character".

[Kevin]

You fucking dope, of course a parapalegic has a better arm than Chad because they're constantly wheeling their chair around. Ever see Murderball? Those guys are ripped.

The term you were looking for was QUADRAPELEGIC.

err.. I knew what he meant..

Yea...

[keithy_19]

err.. I knew what he meant..

Yea...

Thank you Kevin.

Tenbatz is just upset because he didn't bond like we did in the NHL postseason thread.

[King Imp]

So, anyone want a former MVP (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3361271) for their team?

[PapaBear]

So, anyone want a former MVP (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3361271) for their team?
I hope Washington doesn't take him.

[RhinoinMN]

http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/2008/04/vikings-land-al.html
Vikings traded for Jared Allen. They gave their 1st round and 2 third round picks.

Ray Edwards, Pat Williams, Kevin Williams, Jared Allen.

Looks like a pretty fierce line now.

[underdog]

Patriots interested in Shaun Alexander (http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/football/other_nfl/view.bg?articleid=1089067&srvc=home&position=active)

god, please no. Alexander has been one of the most overrated players in the game, and probably one of the worst MVPs. He never runs hard and just goes into tackles backwards and falls down. I don't want him anywhere near the Patriots.

[Knowledged_one]

WOw you couldnt be more off about Alexander

Year Team G Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM
2005 Seattle Seahawks 16 370 23.1 1,880 5.1 117.5 27 88T 107 28.9 14 4 5

2004 Seattle Seahawks 16 353 22.1 1,696 4.8 106.0 16 44 77 21.8 15 2 5

2003 Seattle Seahawks 16 326 20.4 1,435 4.4 89.7 14 55 79 24.2 9 2 4

2002 Seattle Seahawks 16 295 18.4 1,175 4.0 73.4 16 58 61 20.7 10 4 2

2001 Seattle Seahawks 16 309 19.3 1,318 4.3 82.4 14 88T 61 19.7 8 4 4

These are his peak 5 years not including his rookie year or the last two where he was injured. He played in all 16 games averaged 20.66 carries per game, averaged 93.8 yards per game (or 1500 yards per season), 17 TD's per season is overrated for a 5 year stretch are you serious.
And to call him a bad MVP is even crazier, the guy averaged 117.5 ypg and scored 27 TD's and its not like they were all short as he had an 88 yarder for a TD, and this does not include his recieving stats. IF he is overrated i would like to know who is good in your opinion

[Kevin]

WOw you couldnt be more off about Alexander

Year Team G Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM
2005 Seattle Seahawks 16 370 23.1 1,880 5.1 117.5 27 88T 107 28.9 14 4 5

2004 Seattle Seahawks 16 353 22.1 1,696 4.8 106.0 16 44 77 21.8 15 2 5

2003 Seattle Seahawks 16 326 20.4 1,435 4.4 89.7 14 55 79 24.2 9 2 4

2002 Seattle Seahawks 16 295 18.4 1,175 4.0 73.4 16 58 61 20.7 10 4 2

2001 Seattle Seahawks 16 309 19.3 1,318 4.3 82.4 14 88T 61 19.7 8 4 4

These are his peak 5 years not including his rookie year or the last two where he was injured. He played in all 16 games averaged 20.66 carries per game, averaged 93.8 yards per game (or 1500 yards per season), 17 TD's per season is overrated for a 5 year stretch are you serious.
And to call him a bad MVP is even crazier, the guy averaged 117.5 ypg and scored 27 TD's and its not like they were all short as he had an 88 yarder for a TD, and this does not include his recieving stats. IF he is overrated i would like to know who is good in your opinion

Well, he had a dominant oline with All pro bookends. Its nnot hard to pout up stats with that type of Oline. He was never the same after Hutchinson left.

[underdog]

Well, he had a dominant oline with All pro bookends. Its nnot hard to pout up stats with that type of Oline. He was never the same after Hutchinson left.

There you go.

[underdog]

WOw you couldnt be more off about Alexander

In his MVP season, he had 15 catches for 78 yards, 1 TD. For an entire season.

So other than run straight ahead, he couldn't catch out of the back field, or even be on the field for 3rd downs.

He was a complete product of his offensive line.

[Epschtein]

well they finally have a deal in place to talk to walsh about spygate, its about time.

get it all out in the open and end the speculation, it will pretty disappointing if he has/says anything particularly damning, but either way the whole thing just needs to be brought to a close.

then hopefully belechick will be more forthcoming about his thought process during the whole thing, because up until now he has just been feuling the fire with his refusal to comment beyond vague soundbites.

[underdog]

Harrison investigated in shooting (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3378829)

Marvin Harrison panicking and not doing the right thing under pressure? I'm shocked.

[Bossanova]

8 tapes given to the NFL from the Pats former video asst. Nothing on the Rams SuperBowl, but intense shit on the Steelers 2002 AFC title game




http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/sports/football/08nfl.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin

[underdog]

8 tapes given to the NFL from the Pats former video asst. Nothing on the Rams SuperBowl, but intense shit on the Steelers 2002 AFC title game

I don't get the "edited with plays" thing about the Steelers. Wouldn't that be done after the game? Although, I guess it could be edited before halftime.

[Snoogans]

Im kinda bummed out right now, it was the first day in months that nobody from the NFL got arrested

[Kevin]

Im kinda bummed out right now, it was the first day in months that nobody from the NFL got arrested

Still 50 mins left in the day and 1.50 to 3.50 left in some areas.

[Epschtein]

"So because a young college kid made what could be, and should be, considered a poor choice it's worse than that piece of shit Tom Brady knocking up a woman and then moving on to another ?"

tom brady is a piece of shit? interesting.

nobody has any idea what went on between the two of them, and i highly doubt she told him she was pregnant and he said "im out of here"...

re: spygate

i was keeping an open mind until now and im still interested in what walsh has to say but - you have to question what his interests are in this, when people kept saying that he had a tape of a rams walkthrough why didnt he just make a statement saying he didnt?

everything he turned over to the nfl is stuff belichick has already admitted to and been punished for.

and as far as any of it being used on the day it was made, its ridiculous, a guy using binoculars and taking notes (sitting where its legal to do so) can get the same information and make the same analysis in real time during the game. even the commissioner has said that he does not believe that any of the taping was ever used to gain a same day advantage.

i still blame belichick for the whole thing, there are many ways he could have avoided this happening but he is a stubborn ass, and while i dont think any of the patriots wins are tarnished by any of this i do understand why other people might think that they are. and as a huge patriots fan that really bums me out.

[cougarjake13]

sadly though they and bellichek will never live it down and be forever known as bellicheat and patricheats

[Epschtein]

goodell's news conference should be in a few minutes.

i was trying to find this fact and finally did, belichick told goodell (and espn reported it) back in september that he had been taping since he started with the patriots, so there is nothing new there, sal paolantonio should talk to his coworkers more often.

the only "new" information from those tapes (taht i have heard of so far) is that it also contained offensive signals but i dont really see any difference.

*just to reiterate before anyone sees im from boston and starts calling me a homer - i place 100% of the blame for this on belichick, i dont think it is nearly as big of a deal as a lot people are making it into, but no doubt it is belichick's fault that it happened and was a string of really bad decisions.

there is a huge story here but the true story isnt nearly as sexy as "spygate", cheating, and "sex lies and videotape".

[RAAMONE]

sadly though they and bellichek will never live it down and be forever known as bellicheat and patricheats

i like cheatriots better

[Epschtein]

well there you go, no walkthru tape, no tapes ever used during games, so this all comes down to having a videocamera in the wrong place. (taping things you can see in plain sight and that every team in the league has someone looking at and taking notes on, if not taping the same things themselves but just in a place allowed by the league)

but that will have no effect on anything, all because bill belichick isnt warm and fuzzy.

a guy that hates the patriots organization and belichick, and has an axe to grind, just said - no tapes ever used during games.

[underdog]

well there you go, no walkthru tape, no tapes ever used during games, so this all comes down to having a videocamera in the wrong place. (taping things you can see in plain sight and that every team in the league has someone looking at and taking notes on, if not taping the same things themselves but just in a place allowed by the league)

but that will have no effect on anything, all because bill belichick isnt warm and fuzzy.

a guy that hates the patriots organization and belichick, and has an axe to grind, just said - no tapes ever used during games.

I'm sorry, but why are they taping the Chargers in 2002 for the first half if they're not going to see the team for another 3 years? There's no way they weren't using these tapes for halftime adjustments.

[Epschtein]

because the logisticsc of attempting to use the tapes at halftime are laughable, there is no reasonable scenario where trying to watch two tapes and determine which play caller is the right one and discern something useful from it for more than a couple plays in the time that you have is any more helpful than doing what everyone does with pictures and note taking.

not to mention accounting for audibles which happen on most plays.

those fools on espn act like those edited tapes they saw were the tapes exactly as the patriots saw them in the locker room at halftime, they were not, and wait a minute - nobody has one shred of evidence that they ever did use those tapes at halftime, and the guy that made some of them claims that he didnt turn over tapes during the game.

and now somehow the commissioner that made this the huge story that it is, is somehow involved in some coverup and just wants it to go away. yeah, that makes sense.

"there is no way they werent using those tapes for halftime adjustments"

and there is not one shred of evidence that they ever did, nor is it remotely feasible. and the one guy that could have (and had a reason to) crucify them just said it never happened when he was there.

[underdog]

because the logisticsc of attempting to use the tapes at halftime are laughable, there is no reasonable scenario where trying to watch two tapes and determine which play caller is the right one and discern something useful from it for more than a couple plays in the time that you have is any more helpful than doing what everyone does with pictures and note taking.

not to mention accounting for audibles which happen on most plays.

those fools on espn act like those edited tapes they saw were the tapes exactly as the patriots saw them in the locker room at halftime, they were not, and wait a minute - nobody has one shred of evidence that they ever did use those tapes at halftime, and the guy that made some of them claims that he didnt turn over tapes during the game.

and now somehow the commissioner that made this the huge story that it is, is somehow involved in some coverup and just wants it to go away. yeah, that makes sense.

"there is no way they werent using those tapes for halftime adjustments"

and there is not one shred of evidence that they ever did, nor is it remotely feasible. and the one guy that could have (and had a reason to) crucify them just said it never happened when he was there.

Hey, turn off your Patriots blinders for a second.

Why would they record the Steelers in the AFC Championship game? Why would they record the Chargers in 2002?

I don't think Goddell is involved in any sort of coverup or anything. So I don't even know where that came from.

And you don't think that the Patriots can turn around a game tape in less than 20 minutes, then feed it to some of the guys upstairs who are then sending down info to the coaches on the field?

But I think I might be missing something. I didn't hear Walsh's words. I only saw the tapes. Did he say that he didn't turn over the tapes during the games?

[Epschtein]

i dont have any "patriots blinders" on, nor have i said anything in this thread to suggest that i am an apologist for the patriots.

im not really interested in arguing, you might want to actually hear what was said today before you try to comment on it further with others tho.

[underdog]

i dont have any "patriots blinders" on, nor have i said anything in this thread to suggest that i am an apologist for the patriots.

im not really interested in arguing, you might want to actually hear what was said today before you try to comment on it further with others tho.

Why would they record those two games? That's all I'm wondering.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Why wouldn't they. They were making a database of O and D coordinators. I don't believe that it's possible to use the tapes in that same game, as ESPN eventhough trying their darnedest to do so couldn't make it work in the 12 min for halftime. I think it was an attempt to figure out trends in how a coordinator would call the game. Especially since time and down were noted. Again, It's Bill's fault they were doing it on the field. There are legal places in which to do it.

[pittphantoms]

Im in a 16-team Dynasty Fantasy Football League... and I need to have my keepers in by June 1. I am completely torn on my QB situation...

I have Texans QB and Raiders QB (we do team QBs because of the depth of the league) - and a very young squad. I cant decide if I think Jamarcus Russell is worth keeping over Matt Schaub who really impresses me.

One thing else that could influence the decision is I have the #1 overall pick and will be taking Darren McFadden - so I am concerned about having my team revolving around the Raiders offense.

Any help would be appreciated.

[Knowledged_one]

Im in a 16-team Dynasty Fantasy Football League... and I need to have my keepers in by June 1. I am completely torn on my QB situation...

I have Texans QB and Raiders QB (we do team QBs because of the depth of the league) - and a very young squad. I cant decide if I think Jamarcus Russell is worth keeping over Matt Schaub who really impresses me.

One thing else that could influence the decision is I have the #1 overall pick and will be taking Darren McFadden - so I am concerned about having my team revolving around the Raiders offense.

Any help would be appreciated.

Texans, if Schaub gets hurt Rosenfels is an adequate back up

[Ogre]

I couldn't resist dragging out the dead horse to beat it some more.

Pac Man's Limited Reinstatement (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/cowboys/2008-06-02-jones-limited-reinstatement_N.htm)

I feel two things here:

1. The Cowboy's Jerry "Father Flanagan" Jones has no shame. Very shrewd, but shameless. Some of the same qualities displayed by The Patriot's staff.

and

B. Goodell had no choice but to work him towards reinstatement, given the "punishment" handed out to King William of Foxboro.

I guess Al Davis was right. "Just win baby !" :devil2:

[cougarjake13]

ahmad bradshaw was jailed for violating probation

[Snoogans]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3481842


apparently former Kicker Tony Zendejas drugged a girl and then raped her in the ass.

[Brock Lee]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3481842


apparently former Kicker Tony Zendejas drugged a girl and then raped her in the ass.

Why is it that kickers and punters always do the must screwed up stuff? ie. Fall off cliffs, Kill each other, Rape people.

[cougarjake13]

Why is it that kickers and punters always do the must screwed up stuff? ie. Fall off cliffs, Kill each other, Rape people.

cause they dont get any respect or pub unless they fuck up

[spadanko]

Brett favre has asked for his release and will become a free agent

[King Imp]

This thing with Brett Favre is really getting ridiculous now. You're retired, stay retired you selfish prick!

Now, I know he is one of the greatest QBs ever, but enough is enough. Because he is either annoying his family and they are kicking him out of the house or he just has no idea what do do with himself, he is once again going to take a job away from another QB. Whether it be Aaron Rodgers or someone somewhere else, Favre's selfishness is going to either derail or delay another's career.

Go away Brett! You were great in your time, but that time has passed. For as much as I do like the guy, I really hope this "I'm retired, I'm not retired. I'm retired, I'm not retired" bullshit makes people start to turn on him.

[cougarjake13]

i hope he takes the vikes to the super bowl and wins

[Kevin]

i hope he takes the vikes to the super bowl and wins

Fuck that, i hope he signs with the Vikes and the Packers take his ass out 1st game. Thiesmend style.

[Brock Lee]

He is going to the back to the falcons where he will complete one pass to himself and go 0-16.

[cougarjake13]

pack said they wont release him, prob cause they know he'd go to the vikes or bears


now lets say you're a team like miami or someone else who may need a qb

do you trade for him knowing he doesnt want to play for you so you can then trade him to the vikes or bears and maybe get a lil extra out of the deal ?

[epo]

Jason Taylor to the Redskins for 2 draft picks.

[Tallman388]

Apparently the Tuna finally got rid of the dancing DE.

"Redskins acquired DE Jason Taylor from the Dolphins in exchange for a second-round draft choice in 2009 and a sixth-round pick in 2010."

It's a shame the Skins and the Fins don't play each other this year.

[Kevin]

Yay! Another high payed star ending his career in Warshington

[Bossanova]

It's a shame the Skins and the Fins don't play each other this year.

It is a shame, but i'm thrilled that McNabb gets to play Dance Boy twice this year

[HBox]

Yay! Another high payed star ending his career in Warshington

They are just one or two more faded superstars away from Super Bowl.

[Enabler]

Nice!! Its a def upgrade over P.Daniels.

[Tallman388]

It is a shame, but i'm thrilled that McNabb gets to play Dance Boy twice this year

I'm happy Strahan's gone, that makes those Giants games seem much better for Donovan.

[Bossanova]

I'm happy Strahan's gone, that makes those Giants games seem much better for Donovan.

Yeah, he was annoying. Runyan is def happy to see him go

[Kevin]

Yeah, he was annoying. Runyan is def happy to see him go

Justin Tuck is gunna fuck Runyan up just as bad.

[Bossanova]

Justin Tuck is gunna fuck Runyan up just as bad.

Fuck that one year wonder

[underdog]

Jason Taylor to the Redskins for 2 draft picks.

I just love how, no matter what evidence is mounted in front of them, the Redskins just ignore it all and continue trading away draft picks thinking it will help them win.

[Da Fish]

Jason Taylor to the Redskins for 2 draft picks.

I barely know anybody on my Dolphins.:glurps:

[DiabloSammich]

I barely know anybody on my Dolphins.:glurps:



Keep your chin up. Maybe Ricky will be back again.

[A.J.]

There wasn't much media coverage about this in DC.

[cougarjake13]

http://nfl.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p5059252dt.jpg

[cougarjake13]

http://nfl.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p5059257dt.jpg

[spadanko]

The Packers are in "serious talks" about a trade that would send Brett Favre to the Jets, according to the Green Bay Press-Gazette.

This would be the Packers' ideal landing spot for Favre. Favre's agent, Bus Cook, has conversed with the Jets, indicating his client does have interest in playing for them. An impending trade could be the reason commissioner Roger Goodell has refused to reinstate Favre to this point. Allowing Favre to practice could've crippled the Packers' team chemistry. Stay tuned. Jul. 31 - 8:59 pm et

[cougarjake13]

football season starts in 3 hours and 15 minutes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Knowledged_one]

Has anyone heard that one of my favorite board characters Neck Beard is the favorite to start the season for the Bears

[cougarjake13]

Has anyone heard that one of my favorite board characters Neck Beard is the favorite to start the season for the Bears

thats until favre shows up

[Ritalin]

thats until favre shows up

No no no no fuck no. Brett Favre cannot play for the Chicago Bears, because it would completely fuck up my football season. I can't root for him, even if he is wearing the Orange and Blue.

I won't do it. Where are the real fans anymore? How could any true Chicago Bear fan root for Brett Favre?

I could never understand how Yankee fans could root for Roger Clemens. Of course, Yankee fans are the most overrated fans in sports today, so there you go.

[cougarjake13]

No no no no fuck no. Brett Favre cannot play for the Chicago Bears, because it would completely fuck up my football season. I can't root for him, even if he is wearing the Orange and Blue.

I won't do it. Where are the real fans anymore? How could any true Chicago Bear fan root for Brett Favre?

I could never understand how Yankee fans could root for Roger Clemens. Of course, Yankee fans are the most overrated fans in sports today, so there you go.

somehow theyre gonna find a way , change game times and what not

so he can qb the pack, vikes, and bears

[Towelie]

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Osi Umenyiora will need surgery on his injured knee and miss the entire 2008 season.

Ouch

[cougarjake13]

Ouch

maybe strahan will come back

[Freitag]

They were throwing around numbers on WFAN this morning, that the Giants would offer Strahan 8 million for one year to come back, while Strahan is only making 2 with Fox.

I really don't know if Strahan is keeping up his conditioning or not. Last year, he was working out a lot out in LA so even though he missed a ton of training camp, he was still good to go when he finally reported.

If Strahan is not in shape at all, it's gonna take him at least 2-3 weeks to get back in the swing.

[Reynolds]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3552159

[cougarjake13]

They were throwing around numbers on WFAN this morning, that the Giants would offer Strahan 8 million for one year to come back, while Strahan is only making 2 with Fox.

I really don't know if Strahan is keeping up his conditioning or not. Last year, he was working out a lot out in LA so even though he missed a ton of training camp, he was still good to go when he finally reported.

If Strahan is not in shape at all, it's gonna take him at least 2-3 weeks to get back in the swing.

waiting 2-3 weeks is still bettter than him not being there at all

[TheMojoPin]

Lesbians love Neckbeard: (http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/zwecker/1124237,CST-FTR-zp25.article)

Also spied dancing with an attractive blonde at Crimson Lounge: new Bears quarterback Kyle Orton -- dubbed ''super-hot'' by Lohan, Ronson and Lauper, who all admired the NFL player's dance-floor moves.

NECKBEARD ERA - A WHOLE NEW LEVEL.

[Earlshog]

http://http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/specials/preview/2008/08/26/main/index.html?eref=T1 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/specials/preview/2008/08/26/main/index.html?eref=T1)


New England over Philly in the superbowl...

The G-Men gets no respect!

[TheGameHHH]

http://http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/specials/preview/2008/08/26/main/index.html?eref=T1 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/specials/preview/2008/08/26/main/index.html?eref=T1)


New England over Philly in the superbowl...

The G-Men gets no respect!

why should the giants get respect this year? they lost literally half their sacks and arguebly the two best DE's in the game. unless you're counting on 16+ lucky ass Tyree/Eyes Closed miracle catches, i find the giants chance to repeat far-fetched.

[Earlshog]

why should the giants get respect this year? they lost literally half their sacks and arguebly the two best DE's in the game. unless you're counting on 16+ lucky ass Tyree/Eyes Closed miracle catches, i find the giants chance to repeat far-fetched.

I am not saying the best team last year the superbowl champion Giants are a favorite to repeat but 9 - 7 in a season they play the terrible NFC West and Medicore AFC Central seems a bit off.

[Kevin]

why should the giants get respect this year? they lost literally half their sacks and arguebly the two best DE's in the game. unless you're counting on 16+ lucky ass Tyree/Eyes Closed miracle catches, i find the giants chance to repeat far-fetched.


WAAAAAA. That was a lucky catch WAAAA. We fucked up that overrated oline and that wanna be Derek Jeter of a QB the whole game. We have depth we still have a damn good D. Tuck is a beast,Kiwi is talented, Kenny Phillips pisses on Wilson, and Wilkenson in LB has a ton of ability. He is strong and fast. And the talented young DBs are a year more expirenced.

[TheGameHHH]

WAAAAAA. That was a lucky catch WAAAA. We fucked up that overrated oline and that wanna be Derek Jeter of a QB the whole game. We have depth we still have a damn good D. Tuck is a beast,Kiwi is talented, Kenny Phillips pisses on Wilson, and Wilkenson in LB has a ton of ability. He is strong and fast. And the talented young DBs are a year more expirenced.

hey im not whining, ill give credit where credit is due. they certainly did fuck up the Pats O-line and pressured Brady better then anyone did all season. im just saying you guys play in probably the toughest division in the NFL and you lost probably the best two D ends in the game. you arent gonna repeat, plain and simple.

[cougarjake13]

hey im not whining, ill give credit where credit is due. they certainly did fuck up the Pats O-line and pressured Brady better then anyone did all season. im just saying you guys play in probably the toughest division in the NFL and you lost probably the best two D ends in the game. you arent gonna repeat, plain and simple.



likelihood of a repeat is not good, even before strahan retired and osi got hurt


but i dont see what the hell the eagles did in the offseason that makes them a 12-4 team and beating the cowboys for the division

yeh they have a 4th place schedule which helps but they still have

you know as i look at this schedule all the hard games are from in the division with the exception of the steelers so i guess depending on how well or poor they play in the division they could win 10-12 games

but i still think the cowboys are the better team


Upcoming Games for 2008 eagles

Wk Date Opponent Time (ET) Coverage

1 Sun. Sep 7 Rams 1:00 p.m.
2 Mon. Sep 15 @ Cowboys 8:30 p.m.
3 Sun. Sep 21 Steelers 4:15 p.m.
4 Sun. Sep 28 @ Bears 8:15 p.m.
5 Sun. Oct 5 Redskins 1:00 p.m.
6 Sun. Oct 12 @ 49ers 4:15 p.m.
7 --- BYE WEEK ---
8 Sun. Oct 26 Falcons 1:00 p.m.
9 Sun. Nov 2 @ Seahawks 4:15 p.m.
10 Sun. Nov 9 Giants 8:15 p.m.
11 Sun. Nov 16 @ Bengals 1:00 p.m.
12 Sun. Nov 23 @ Ravens 1:00 p.m.
13 Thur. Nov 27 Cardinals 8:15 p.m.
14 Sun. Dec 7 @ Giants 1:00 p.m.
15 Mon. Dec 15 Browns 8:30 p.m.
16 Sun. Dec 21 @ Redskins 1:00 p.m.
17 Sun. Dec 28 Cowboys

[sailor]

chad johnson (of gvac's own cincinnati bengals) legally changed his last name ocho cinco (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3560377). chad javon ocho cinco.

[Dash77]

CINCINNATI (AP)—Maybe receiver Chad Johnson can go by the name that his head coach hates.

The Cincinnati Bengals receiver has legally changed his name to Chad Javon Ocho Cinco in Broward County, Fla., a switch that became official this week, according to several media reports. Johnson, who lives in Miami, didn’t return a message left on his cell phone Friday night.

“It’s something I don’t think anyone has ever done before,” he told the team’s Web site. “Have I ever had a reason for why I do what I do? I’m having fun.”

Two years ago, Johnson gave himself the moniker—a reference in Spanish to his No. 85—and put it on the back of his uniform before a game. Quarterback Carson Palmer ripped it off before the kickoff. After the season, coach Marvin Lewis—who dislikes Johnson’s attention-getting stunts—referred to the receiver as “Ocho Psycho.”

Bengals spokesman Jack Brennan said the Bengals had no comment on the matter.

Johnson has been a concern for the Bengals this season. He unsuccessfully lobbied for a trade in the offseason, threatening to sit out if he didn’t get his way. When the Bengals refused, he relented and showed up for minicamp, but complained that his right ankle was bothering him.

He had bone spurs removed from the ankle and was limited at the start of training camp. In the second preseason game, he landed awkwardly and temporarily dislocated his left shoulder. Johnson is wearing a harness and expects to play in the season opener against Baltimore.

[Don Stugots]

i would like to see how that name looks on the back of his jersey.

[Kevin]

i would like to see how that name looks on the back of his jersey.

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/sports/photos/2008/08/30/ocho392-cp.jpg

[Don Stugots]

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/sports/photos/2008/08/30/ocho392-cp.jpg

HAHHA. i love it. thanks.

[sailor]

did he? (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1843258#post1843258)

[Tenbatsuzen]

WAAAAAA. That was a lucky catch WAAAA. We fucked up that overrated oline and that wanna be Derek Jeter of a QB the whole game. We have depth we still have a damn good D. Tuck is a beast,Kiwi is talented, Kenny Phillips pisses on Wilson, and Wilkenson in LB has a ton of ability. He is strong and fast. And the talented young DBs are a year more expirenced.

You sound like me touting the Jets O-line last year when Kendall left. We saw how that worked out.

[Don Stugots]

did he? (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1843258#post1843258)

no?

[sailor]

no?

merge makes us all look silly.

[Tenbatsuzen]

The NFL said they'll look into it, but I don't see anything they can do about it, with the muslim players changing THEIR name.

It's a brilliant marketing move. He just doubled his jersey sales.

[BeerBandit]

Ok, I do not follow College Football so this rule change for the coin toss perplexes me. What is being added. According to the old way, you either kick or receive. The other team chooses which side to defend and so defends (for examples sake) East, west, west, east for each of the four quarters. For the new way, if you choose, and kick, the other team will choose in the 2nd half, and most likely receive the ball twice. If you defer and the other team kicks, you can get the ball twice. So why wouldn't whoever chooses in the first half always choose to receive. I don't see how this adds anything. Sure there are four choices now instead of two, but two of the new choices are idiotic. No matter what the discrepancy is between your awful offense and superb defense, you should never automatically put yourself down 2 possessions.

I hate college football.

[PapaBear]

Another football player shot... (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/specials/preview/2008/09/02/collier.shot.ap/index.html?eref=si_nfl)

Jacksonville Jaguars offensive tackle Richard Collier was shot and critically wounded outside an apartment building early Tuesday as he and a former teammate waited for two women they had met at a nightclub, police said.

Collier, 26, and former Jaguars defensive end Kenneth Pettway were waiting in a Cadillac Escalade when a gunman fired into the vehicle, said Jacksonville Sheriff's Office spokesman Ken Jefferson. Collier was shot several times, but it wasn't clear where he was hit.

[cougarjake13]

Culpepper-retires-after-nine-NFL-seasons (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8524404/Culpepper-retires-after-nine-NFL-seasons)

[cougarjake13]

shockingly someone picks the giants to repeat



http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8517638/DECISION-'08:-NFL-season-predictions

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Fallon lets get this changed to the 2008 NFL Season Thread


its Football Time

my lock of the Week Lions over Falcons (any spread)

[disneyspy]

Fallon lets get this changed to the 2008 NFL Season Thread


its Football Time

my lock of the Week Lions over Falcons (any spread)

MY LIONS DIDNT WASTE ANY TIME LETTIN ME DOWN THIS YEAR,7-0 ATL 1:27 into the game.HAPPY NEW SEASON BUDDAYS!:blink:

[cougarjake13]

MY LIONS DIDNT WASTE ANY TIME LETTIN ME DOWN THIS YEAR,7-0 ATL 1:27 into the game.HAPPY NEW SEASON BUDDAYS!:blink:



jesus christ who the fuck do they even have over there??

i know ryan is qb

[disneyspy]

nobody,14 zip half way through the 1st qt

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Wow the fucking Falcons are looking like the Patriots

stoopid Lions

[disneyspy]

Wow the fucking Falcons are looking like the Patriots

stoopid Lions

just sent out a mass text to my friends up here in nortern michigan that said HEY LIONS FANS,WELCOME TO THE REGULAR SEASON,21 zip atl,still in da 1st qt

[cougarjake13]

nobody,14 zip half way through the 1st qt



its the espn curse

[disneyspy]

its the espn curse

na its da lions,they got no mojo,man

[cougarjake13]

na its da lions,they got no mojo,man



true but the last 2 times the espn picked them to do anything they shit the bed

[disneyspy]

stoopid espn

[cougarjake13]

stoopid espn



agreed

[A.J.]

Fallon lets get this changed to the 2008 NFL Season Thread

Yeah, either that or lock this one and start a new one. I'd do it myself but football season is just a blur on the way to Spring Training.

[disneyspy]

there are only 3 seasons:spring,summer and football

[cougarjake13]

there are only 3 seasons:spring,summer and football

sounds bout right

[disneyspy]

cougarjake13 is a wise man,hated da way the UCF/USF game ended last nite.

[cougarjake13]

cougarjake13 is a wise man,hated da way the UCF/USF game ended last nite.

thanks you are as well sir


was watching the ufc fights

what happened to the game

[epo]

Fallon lets get this changed to the 2008 NFL Season Thread

its Football Time

my lock of the Week Lions over Falcons (any spread)

Could you provide this service every week about an hour before kickoff? That's plenty of time for the rest of us to contact a bookie.

[disneyspy]

thanks you are as well sir


was watching the ufc fights

what happened to the game
da knights chocked in OT
Could you provide this service every week about an hour before kickoff? That's plenty of time for the rest of us to contact a bookie.

sswa,fezhipposbandaid

[K.C.]

Any news on Brady or Rothelisberger yet?

[cougarjake13]

Fallon lets get this changed to the 2008 NFL Season Thread


its Football Time

my lock of the Week Lions over Falcons (any spread)




man does your jinxiness know no bounds ???


you sir FAIL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


i do believe you should be banned from talking, posting or even thinking about new york sports

[cougarjake13]

Any news on Brady or Rothelisberger yet?



Brady, 31, went to the locker room and was not seen again on the sideline as backup Matt Cassel led the Patriots to a 17-10 victory. The two-time Super Bowl MVP was not available for comment after the game, and coach Bill Belichick said he had nothing to add to the in-game announcement that it was a knee injury.

"They're looking at him, doing some tests on him, so I don't have any information there," the coach said, cracking a smile as he added, "doubt anybody's interested."



i dont see anything on the burger man

[K.C.]

Chris Mortensen:

"I believe this is a season-ending injury for Brady."

Hmmmm....

[drjoek]

This thread needs to be renamed or locked

[RAAMONE]

Any news on Brady or Rothelisberger yet?

um...did i miss something? he left the game because they were killing the texans correct?

also since their really arent any steelers fans, i will come here to brag...how fuckin good did the steelers look yesterday...

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Steelers looked a lot better than I thought

maybe it was a Texan fluke, but 3 TDs by Parker either matched or surpassed his last year totals


also was smart of me to pick Ward over Holmes, ward gets those short range TDs , Holmes is diva who gets the long TDs



Tonite, The Viking D smothers Green Bay while the Raiders beat Denver going away

[cougarjake13]

Tonite, The Viking D smothers Green Bay while the Raiders beat Denver going away


which for you betting fans means take green bay and denver

[Da Fish]

Pennington did pretty well for the Fins.

[cougarjake13]

Pennington did pretty well for the Fins.



yeh but it got overshadowed by favre