NFL Offseason Discussion

[King Hippos Bandaid]

By scapegoat do you mean sole reason

fucking losers, i dont post about the Giants and THIS is what happens

:king:

the anti jinx, worked like a charm

your welcome

:king:


I get nothing when i help the Giants come back with the anti jinx

when i do good, i get no complaints

[Bossanova]

I get nothing when i help the Giants come back with the anti jinx

when i do good, i get no complaints

you will get no help on the Giants one from me sir

[Snoogans]

thats life, in the big city, there Mr Sports Book

[TheGameHHH]

i hate that tony romo gets to fuck jessica simpson. she should be at my games and wearing a pink jersey with my number on it

[King Hippos Bandaid]

thats life, in the big city, there Mr Sports Book

I wish, I could gamble more, love the ponies

its ok. I get to AC 3 or 4 times a year

I would have a real problem if their was a craps table in NYC

[Snoogans]

HAHAHAHA, BOSS. Thats fuckin sad. The giants dont even do shit like that

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I am being jinxed, i have tony romo starting in both my my fantasy football playoff games


LT just scored 2 TDs

I am only winning 83-74 in one league


Losing by 25 in the other

[Snoogans]

you arent being jinxed, you are doin that to yourself

[King Hippos Bandaid]

you arent being jinxed, you are doin that to yourself


fucking snow killed me with Braylon and Marshawn

8-0 , who wins a game 8-0

[Snoogans]

fucking snow killed me with Braylon and Marshawn

8-0 , who wins a game 8-0

Boston Red Sox

[Snoogans]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Philly not only picked it and then fumbled back, but then wasted a timeout to think and then another one challenging it anyway

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Boston Red Sox

was gonna make a reference to baseball, but a Buffalo Braves reference would have tanked

[jauble]

you arent being jinxed, you are doin that to yourself

Its like hippo is looking into a mirror...who is jinxing who?

[Snoogans]

this cowboys game is the worst game ever

[HBox]

Brian Westbrook fantasy owners want to FUCKING MURDER HIM RIGHT NOW YOU FUCKING BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tall_James]

Brian Westbrook fantasy owners want to FUCKING MURDER HIM RIGHT NOW YOU FUCKING BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just be quiet and win your matchup so I can destroy you in the championship game just like I did in 2003.

Freddie Mitchell awaits you.

[HBox]

Just be quiet and win your matchup so I can destroy you in the championship game just like I did in 2003.

Freddie Mitchell awaits you.

With or without the TD I lost.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

very funny that there was a R A T S rats rats rats chant from the New England fans

[Fallon]

I'm already sick of Tony fucking Romo.

Jessica in a football jersey was very good though.

[spoon]

Two ex-Chargers (Lemon and Camarillo) help the Dolphins break up their winless season for the ex-Charger coach. Weird.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Brian Westbrook fantasy owners want to FUCKING MURDER HIM RIGHT NOW YOU FUCKING BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is why I don't play fantasy ball anymore. Or, at the very least, fantasy football. Westbrook had what was quite possibly the smartest play I've ever seen, and you as an Eagles fan, should be happy that your team beat your biggest rival on what is decidedly a down year.

[Fallon]

This is why I don't play fantasy ball anymore. Or, at the very least, fantasy football. Westbrook had what was quite possibly the smartest play I've ever seen, and you as an Eagles fan, should be happy that your team beat your biggest rival on what is decidedly a down year.

It really was a great play. Why risk giving Dallas the ball back. The Eagles coach was shocked, very funny.

[Bama]

Great play by Westbrook. Especially considering Julius Jones got me zero freaking points.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

This is an official FUCK YOU to Tony Romo, who helped me lose my playoff Game, all he needed was 12 fucking points, he usually does that in the 1st Quarter

way to fuck me over in my playoff game, I had a good chance to win $800

[Snoogans]

This is an official FUCK YOU to Tony Romo, who helped me lose my playoff Game, all he needed was 12 fucking points, he usually does that in the 1st Quarter

way to fuck me over in my playoff game, I had a good chance to win $800

shocker, Jinxy McGamble is mad at an athlete for costing him money

[Knowledged_one]

This is an official FUCK YOU to Tony Romo, who helped me lose my playoff Game, all he needed was 12 fucking points, he usually does that in the 1st Quarter

way to fuck me over in my playoff game, I had a good chance to win $800

Well that really sucks because his poor performance got me into the championship game in my league, but that was only because of a poor showing by Brady.

Now would you split 90% of a $2000 dollar pot with the other guy in the championship or just risk it all for 65% of 2k

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Well that really sucks because his poor performance got me into the championship game in my league, but that was only because of a poor showing by Brady.

Now would you split 90% of a $2000 dollar pot with the other guy in the championship or just risk it all for 65% of 2k

45% is $900

65% is $1300

$400 is on table


What do you get if you lose the game

[Knowledged_one]

This is why I don't play fantasy ball anymore. Or, at the very least, fantasy football. Westbrook had what was quite possibly the smartest play I've ever seen, and you as an Eagles fan, should be happy that your team beat your biggest rival on what is decidedly a down year.

Im wondering if this is because of what happened in the 2nd redskins game where they let him score at the end to put the eagles up by 8 and the skins almost came back to tie it. Westbrook is a smart player to have remembered that from earlier in the year

[Knowledged_one]

45% is $900

65% is $1300

$400 is on table


What do you get if you lose the game

25%, the only thing that worries me is that my recievers blow and have had down weeks

I will let you know the lineup i would play depending on teh outcome tonight (Adrian Peterson scores 32 points then a different team would win)

But who would you rather go up against LT2 or Peterson

[King Hippos Bandaid]

25%, the only thing that worries me is that my recievers blow and have had down weeks

I will let you know the lineup i would play depending on teh outcome tonight (Adrian Peterson scores 32 points then a different team would win)

But who would you rather go up against LT2 or Peterson


$500 If you lose

$900 if you split

$1300 to be greedy


Id have to see the lineup, but $900 looks good

[Knowledged_one]

Well my lineup is Brady, Brandon Jacobs, Maurice Jones Drew, Aaron Stecker (I have LJ but he has been hurt, and i dont think i will run DeShaun Foster or Maurice Morris) and then two of these three WR: Kevin Curtis, Bernard Berrian or Nate Burelson (my theory is that WR's are a dime a dozen so i never pick an elite guy as i would rather have the RB's), Antonio Gates, and then my kicker and Defense

I could be either against: Brees, LT2, Justin Fargas, Marion Barber, TO, Marques Colston, not sure of the TE

or

Peyton Manning, Adrian Peterson, Willis McGahee, Braylon Edwards, Andre Johnson, Tony Scheffler and i think Brandon Marshall

I beat both teams in the regular season ( I went 11-2)

im thinking of going for the split money and just play for the trophy, $900 in hand is better then $500

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Well my lineup is Brady, Brandon Jacobs, Maurice Jones Drew, Aaron Stecker (I have LJ but he has been hurt, and i dont think i will run DeShaun Foster or Maurice Morris) and then two of these three WR: Kevin Curtis, Bernard Berrian or Nate Burelson (my theory is that WR's are a dime a dozen so i never pick an elite guy as i would rather have the RB's), Antonio Gates, and then my kicker and Defense

I could be either against: Brees, LT2, Justin Fargas, Marion Barber, TO, Marques Colston, not sure of the TE

or

Peyton Manning, Adrian Peterson, Willis McGahee, Braylon Edwards, Andre Johnson, Tony Scheffler and i think Brandon Marshall

I beat both teams in the regular season ( I went 11-2)

im thinking of going for the split money and just play for the trophy, $900 in hand is better then $500


agreed

[DiabloSammich]

Im wondering if this is because of what happened in the 2nd redskins game where they let him score at the end to put the eagles up by 8 and the skins almost came back to tie it. Westbrook is a smart player to have remembered that from earlier in the year



Westbrook was quoted in the paper as saying he wanted to go for the touchdown but Jon Runyan was screaming at him to get down because the boys didn't have any timeouts. Either way it was a great move.

[spoon]

agreed

Yah, both team have your beat if you ask me. I can't believe you got this far, as your team is pretty weak. Sorry KO, but these guys seem to have you lined up to lose. I'm not one to split anything, but against either one of these guys a split looks smart in my mind.

Good luck either way and let us know what happened/would have happened.

[spoon]

Westbrook was quoted in the paper as saying he wanted to go for the touchdown but Jon Runyan was screaming at him to get down because the boys didn't have any timeouts. Either way it was a great move.

Yah, Runyan is a great player too. Did anyone see the segment on HBO with him and Strahan last week and their battles/respect for each other over the years? Pretty good stuff.

[TheGameHHH]

Yah, both team have your beat if you ask me. I can't believe you got this far, as your team is pretty weak. Sorry KO, but these guys seem to have you lined up to lose. I'm not one to split anything, but against either one of these guys a split looks smart in my mind.

Good luck either way and let us know what happened/would have happened.

i was going to say the same thing, his team absolutely blows. but i didnt wanna get into a whole 'my fantasy team can beat your fantasy team' pissing war on a message board. but still, that team is god awful. yet its in a championship while my teams are out golfing for the off-season.

[cougarjake13]

Brian Westbrook fantasy owners want to FUCKING MURDER HIM RIGHT NOW YOU FUCKING BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is why I don't play fantasy ball anymore. Or, at the very least, fantasy football. Westbrook had what was quite possibly the smartest play I've ever seen, and you as an Eagles fan, should be happy that your team beat your biggest rival on what is decidedly a down year.

It really was a great play. Why risk giving Dallas the ball back. The Eagles coach was shocked, very funny.

are you guys nuts ???

how the fuck was it smart ???

a touchdown makes it 17-6 with the extra point

how the fuck is a 11 point lead not a smart idea ??

what if the eagles fumbled ???

what do we always hear ( usually referencing fg's) you never leave points off the board

[Knowledged_one]

I probably should have told you the scoring rules also and you will see why my team was 11-2

1 rushing yard = .1 points
2 passing yards = .1 points
1 receiving yard = .1 points

TD's - 0-9 yards is 6points, 10-39 yards is 9 points and 40 and above is 12 and this goes for both QB's, and RB/WR/TE

Also for RB you get double points for receiving yards so 1 receiving yard = .2 points for a rb

So as you can see with Jacobs, MJD and Stecker (and before that LJ or DeShaun foster or Maurice Morris) they all catch alot of passes and also distance bonuses for Brady have made him the top QB by like 150 points in my league, he routinely put up 50+ points a game

Also i have the Giants and Seahawks D and rode each of them during their hot streaks so they always helped

and like i said i beat both teams during the regular season but i agree with you all bird in hand is better then 2 in the bush

And for whats it worth you all can crush my team but the bottom line is I am playing for the championship, and i wont get into a my team is better type of deal because with a healthy LJ it wouldnt even be a discussion on taking the split

[Knowledged_one]

are you guys nuts ???

how the fuck was it smart ???

a touchdown makes it 17-6 with the extra point

how the fuck is a 11 point lead not a smart idea ??

what if the eagles fumbled ???

what do we always hear ( usually referencing fg's) you never leave points off the board

See what Dallas did in Buffalo earlier this year and you will see why we all are saying it was a good move

[cougarjake13]

See what Dallas did in Buffalo earlier this year and you will see why we all are saying it was a good move

i know that but 11 points is different than 8

its 2 possessions

[underdog]

are you guys nuts ???

how the fuck was it smart ???

a touchdown makes it 17-6 with the extra point

how the fuck is a 11 point lead not a smart idea ??

what if the eagles fumbled ???

what do we always hear ( usually referencing fg's) you never leave points off the board

If the Eagles fumbled a kneel down, then they have bigger problems.

You either give the Cowboys ZERO chance of winning, or score the TD and actually give them a chance.

[Bossanova]

Smartest play the Eagles have had all year. Detroit and Buffalo let the Boys comeback and the Eagles have a past in blowing leads. Take a knee when the other team has no time outs. Just smart football.

[DiabloSammich]

Smartest play the Eagles have had all year. Detroit and Buffalo let the Boys comeback and the Eagles have a past in blowing leads. Take a knee when the other team has no time outs. Just smart football.


Hey Boss, don't you hate when they have a game like this that makes you think they can hang with the big boys and then they rip your heart out the following week? Been like this as far as I can remember.

[Bossanova]

Hey Boss, don't you hate when they have a game like this that makes you think they can hang with the big boys and then they rip your heart out the following week? Been like this as far as I can remember.

HAHA, it is a feeling that I wish on noone. I love this team but fucking hate them more and more as I watch the same shit every year

[DiabloSammich]

HAHA, it is a feeling that I wish on noone. I love this team but fucking hate them more and more as I watch the same shit every year


Your sig pic says it all. Hang in there brother. The Kevin Kolb era starts soon.

[Knowledged_one]

yeh well try living through he Norv Turner years and ensuing mediocrity that has ensued with the Redskins at least the Eagles make the playoffs we draft Heath Shuler

[DiabloSammich]

yeh well try living through he Norv Turner years and ensuing mediocrity that has ensued with the Redskins at least the Eagles make the playoffs we draft Heath Shuler


Point taken.

[cougarjake13]

but at least the skins had the early gibbs years

the eagles had one vermeil yr

[Bossanova]

Your sig pic says it all. Hang in there brother. The Kevin Kolb era starts soon.

I can hardly wait. I am seeing the Bubby Brister years all over again

[HBox]

This is why I don't play fantasy ball anymore. Or, at the very least, fantasy football. Westbrook had what was quite possibly the smartest play I've ever seen, and you as an Eagles fan, should be happy that your team beat your biggest rival on what is decidedly a down year.

I'll get over it in a couple of days and he's still my favorite player but it got worse today when I check my scores thinking I was blown out because the rest of my players shit the bed and I find out I lost by 1 point.

[RhinoinMN]

After last night I can't resist

SKOL VIKINGS!!

[Knowledged_one]

Sean Taylor was named as a starter for the NFC Pro Bowl team this year, first athlete to be named posthumously since some goalie for the flyers in 1986

I hope they start the Pro Bowl with only 10 on Defense to symbolize for him

[cougarjake13]

Sean Taylor was named as a starter for the NFC Pro Bowl team this year, first athlete to be named posthumously since some goalie for the flyers in 1986

I hope they start the Pro Bowl with only 10 on Defense to symbolize for him

im sure they will

[cougarjake13]

parcells may take over in atlanta



http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7581372

[spoon]

yeh well try living through he Norv Turner years and ensuing mediocrity that has ensued with the Redskins at least the Eagles make the playoffs we draft Heath Shuler

Point taken.

Thanks guys! Charger fan here hoping the talent on both sides of the ball can outplay the his shitty coaching. It'll surely be hard seeing that they'll probably have to go through Indy and then New England.....if they can take out Cleveland/Ten/Jax in the wild card! Shit! However, I'm even surprised that he and Cotrell were able to win the worst division in the AFC. 9-5 after a 1-3 start looks great in my mind...and surprising.

[spoon]

Sean Taylor was named as a starter for the NFC Pro Bowl team this year, first athlete to be named posthumously since some goalie for the flyers in 1986

I hope they start the Pro Bowl with only 10 on Defense to symbolize for him

im sure they will

Not to be a dick here, but this is a little over the top for a guy who had plenty of trouble on and off the field. Hell, it's even linked to his fucking death/murder. The kid from Denver died before the season and he was just an afterthought even though he never spit in other player's faces among other things.

[PapaBear]

There was a time when a player would have been called a pussy for not spitting on an opponent. And the guy he spit on would have been called a pussy for not trying to kick his ass for doing it.

I feel bad for players who have died and not gotten this much attention, but it's new territory. A player dying mid-season is something that the NFL has to deal with publicly. And at the worse, someone who might have been named and alternate, will have to wait until next year.

[Knowledged_one]

Not to be a dick here, but this is a little over the top for a guy who had plenty of trouble on and off the field. Hell, it's even linked to his fucking death/murder. The kid from Denver died before the season and he was just an afterthought even though he never spit in other player's faces among other things.

Are you high? His past had nothing to do with him getting killed, he was a victim of a home invasion by 4 people, he died protecting his girlfriend/fiancee and baby daughter. And his trouble off the field had happened more then a year ago. Not trying to be a dick but your quote about his past is so way out of line and incorrect, there is a great article from the ESPN omnbudsperson talking about how they people who brought up his past clouded the true facts of the case.

[spoon]

Are you high? His past had nothing to do with him getting killed, he was a victim of a home invasion by 4 people, he died protecting his girlfriend/fiancee and baby daughter. And his trouble off the field had happened more then a year ago. Not trying to be a dick but your quote about his past is so way out of line and incorrect, there is a great article from the ESPN omnbudsperson talking about how they people who brought up his past clouded the true facts of the case.

OK, then why was it I've read multiple times that the people who ended up killing him weren't strangers. Why is it that he slept with a fucking AXE every night? I guess it's bc he ran in such great circles working closely with the local chapter of the Red Cross and United Way right? But at least we're both not trying to be dicks!

[Knowledged_one]

OK, then why was it I've read multiple times that the people who ended up killing him weren't strangers. Why is it that he slept with a fucking AXE every night? I guess it's bc he ran in such great circles working closely with the local chapter of the Red Cross and United Way right? But at least we're both not trying to be dicks!

Well since you want facts I will give them to you because you are obviously wrong on so much

1. He didnt sleep with an axe, it was a machete (not a gun) and how many people here dont have something like that for break-ins, i sleep with a stub baseball bat in my room for just such occasions and i live in Troy Ohio which is hardly even close to Miami. The guy actually had pit bulls for guarding the place and got rid of them when his daughter was born.
2. Where did you read they werent strangers, Sean Taylor had no idea who these people were and they admitted that they did the break-in because they didnt think he would be there. It is true that two of the four had been in his house before, it was at a birthday party for Sean Taylor's half sister that Sean Taylor was not at he just let his family use the house
3. And actually Sean Taylor was involved with the local United Way in Miami

And im not trying to attack you but you are spewing untruths about this guy whos death was clearly tragic, seriously get your facts straight before posting like you know what you are talking about

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Rams vs Steelers with Gumbel doing the Announcing , I cant wait


who am I kidding, I love every football game

[spoon]

Dude, you're reaching soooo fucking hard I think you're about to pull a muscle. First, I put axe bc I didn't know how to spell machete...big fucking difference/you got the point. Second, are we going to say he didn't know them or had any connection or did he? Come on, read the writing on the f'n wall. I guess he just has dirtbags in the house bc of his family. And what a great guy to ditch pit bulls when he has little kids in the house. Pit bulls he probably had trained to be nothing but cluddly pets due to all his work with the United Way. Hell, every NFL player has ties to the United Way bc it's part of the gig. And I'm sure he did even more then normal community service after all his run ins with trouble within and outside the league. I have nothing against this guy either, but to immortalize him as if he was some pioneer or saint is a fucking joke. Funny you'd be biased with that sig and all. You HAVE to admit he was no saint and there are many questions with this case, his character and his past.

[Knowledged_one]

You know what im not Moe and im not going to get into this with you. He had no connection with these guys simple point. Im not immortalizign the guy but he had one charge against him that was a simple felony two years ago. My guess is you arent a redskins fan and dont know these things. But you have no idea about the case plain and simple

[Snoogans]

You know what im not Moe and im not going to get into this with you. He had no connection with these guys simple point. Im not immortalizign the guy but he had one charge against him that was a simple felony two years ago. My guess is you arent a redskins fan and dont know these things. But you have no idea about the case plain and simple

In fairness, from a person impartial in the situation. I too heard the reports Spoon heard, that the people did have contact and were in his house before for that party, but never met Taylor. They were over for the party, saw alot of nice stuff in the house, and decided to go back and rob it. Thats the way I heard it, however that's because it came from the guys who did it. Now, I'm no master criminal, but I prob would try to make it look most like you didn't mean it if I was in that position. Maybe they lied so it didnt look premeditated, shit like that. Who knows.

Anyway, regardless, I think he shoulda been voted in. Not cause he is dead, but because he was having a monster year and leading in votes at the time of his death, so he deserved it on his own merits, not cause he died.

[Earlshog]

Not to be a dick here, but this is a little over the top for a guy who had plenty of trouble on and off the field. Hell, it's even linked to his fucking death/murder. The kid from Denver died before the season and he was just an afterthought even though he never spit in other player's faces among other things.



You put it perfect by saying "the kid from Denver"

Sean Taylor was a star, a game changing player, that's why it garnered so much media attention.

If it was the back up nose tackle it would have been a one and done story.

[cougarjake13]

parcells may take over in atlanta



http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7581372

looks like he's going to the dolphins now

[spoon]

You know what im not Moe and im not going to get into this with you. He had no connection with these guys simple point. Im not immortalizign the guy but he had one charge against him that was a simple felony two years ago. My guess is you arent a redskins fan and dont know these things. But you have no idea about the case plain and simple

I'm not trying to make this a Moe fight either so stop leaning on that crutch. And to say I have no idea about the case bc I'm impartial and don't root for the Redskins is nuts too. All I had to do is put on ESPN or the any channel talking about sports to hear about this case, and you know I listen to sports talk radio all day long outside of our boys. I also have watched a ton of segments on the case, as if I had a choice with the way espn, espn news and fox sports covers sports these days. So lay off the "you don't know anything" argument bc we disagree.

My main point is that it's a shame he's was killed regardless, but let's stop making him into a martyr of sorts, and deserving of what you suggested. Your reasoning as to why he spits, gets suspended, hangs with the wrong crowd and his overall shitty past is hilarious. I guess if Pacman Jones gets shot or Vick gets killed by dogs our suspicions will be simply wrong bc we aren't Titan or Falcon fans. Perhaps they should have had their respective cases worked by fans of those teams only based on your logic. And if another Darrent Williams gets shot, who cares, he simply wasn't an all-star and hence is deserving of nothing comparably.

Save these grand displays for the great guys in the game, not pro-bowlers caught up in their own bullshit. Sure he was good, and deserved to be on the selected to the pro bowl, but I wasn't saying he shouldn't.

[DiabloSammich]

Oh goody. Gumbel, PrimeTime, and Faulk in the booth again.

(yawns and stretches) Well... guess I'll turn in early.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

am muting the game, good to see some scoring

go Stephen Jackson

got me a TD already

[KnoxHarrington]

Deion Sanders probably made what might be the single stupidest "point" I've heard in a game ever. He blasted the Steelers for running, saying "You don't eat up the clock when you're behind!"

By the way, at the time, the Steelers were trailing by 3, and there was more than 11 minutes to go. In the second quarter.

[Snoogans]

Deion Sanders probably made what might be the single stupidest "point" I've heard in a game ever. He blasted the Steelers for running, saying "You don't eat up the clock when you're behind!"

By the way, at the time, the Steelers were trailing by 3, and there was more than 11 minutes to go. In the second quarter.

But his Hot Dog Express rules

[DiabloSammich]

am muting the game, good to see some scoring

go Stephen Jackson

got me a TD already

I sat Holt. He better not make me regret it.

[Ritalin]

I'm not trying to make this a Moe fight either so stop leaning on that crutch. And to say I have no idea about the case bc I'm impartial and don't root for the Redskins is nuts too. All I had to do is put on ESPN or the any channel talking about sports to hear about this case, and you know I listen to sports talk radio all day long outside of our boys. I also have watched a ton of segments on the case, as if I had a choice with the way espn, espn news and fox sports covers sports these days. So lay off the "you don't know anything" argument bc we disagree.

My main point is that it's a shame he's was killed regardless, but let's stop making him into a martyr of sorts, and deserving of what you suggested. Your reasoning as to why he spits, gets suspended, hangs with the wrong crowd and his overall shitty past is hilarious. I guess if Pacman Jones gets shot or Vick gets killed by dogs our suspicions will be simply wrong bc we aren't Titan or Falcon fans. Perhaps they should have had their respective cases worked by fans of those teams only based on your logic. And if another Darrent Williams gets shot, who cares, he simply wasn't an all-star and hence is deserving of nothing comparably.

Save these grand displays for the great guys in the game, not pro-bowlers caught up in their own bullshit. Sure he was good, and deserved to be on the selected to the pro bowl, but I wasn't saying he shouldn't.

Listen, last year they let Merriman go to the Pro Bowl after he got BUSTED FOR JUICING, so who gives a goddamn rats ass who they let go, anyway? It's the stupidest all star game there is.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I sat Holt. He better not make me regret it.

nah Bruce is raking up the points, the Steelers are good at covering the #1 receiver

[PapaBear]

"Gus Frerotte has been called in. That's the equivalent of tossing it in."
:lol:

[RAAMONE]

anyone hear anything about parkers broken leg...all i heard is that hes done for the season but thats only one game...i'm guessing they mean the rest of the year...which sucks...nice to see davenport step up...somewhat reminds me of bettis in his earlier years

[BoondockSaint]

anyone hear anything about parkers broken leg...all i heard is that hes done for the season but thats only one game...i'm guessing they mean the rest of the year...which sucks...nice to see davenport step up...somewhat reminds me of bettis in his earlier years

Yeah, he's done for the year. Sucks.

[Earlshog]

anyone hear anything about parkers broken leg...all i heard is that hes done for the season but thats only one game...i'm guessing they mean the rest of the year...which sucks...nice to see davenport step up...somewhat reminds me of bettis in his earlier years

when he was in pop warner?

[cougarjake13]

Yeah, he's done for the year. Sucks.

as are the steelers chances of doing anything in the playoffs

[DiabloSammich]

anyone hear anything about parkers broken leg...all i heard is that hes done for the season but thats only one game...i'm guessing they mean the rest of the year...which sucks...nice to see davenport step up...somewhat reminds me of bettis in his earlier years


Unfortunately I think Davenport took advantage of the other team not game-planning for him. He'll more than likely revert back to the Najeh we all know. It's now up to Ben. This will prove if he's top tier.

[spoon]

Listen, last year they let Merriman go to the Pro Bowl after he got BUSTED FOR JUICING, so who gives a goddamn rats ass who they let go, anyway? It's the stupidest all star game there is.

Who the fuck said he couldn't/shouldn't go? Ur way off track with a stupid example. I wasn't asking for Merriman to get a miltary fly by salute either. Reading time!

[Bossanova]

Could someone shoot Bryant Gumble

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Could someone shoot Bryant Gumble


Barney Gumble
Bryant Gumbel

spelling for thought

mute it or listen on the radio and pop a simpsons dvd in like muah

[Bossanova]

I am actually listening to the Caps-Isles game on the other tv, but I just saw his smarmy face. I hate him

[DiabloSammich]

I am forming an "I Hate Bryant Gumbel Anti-Fan Club"

So far it's me, Hippo, and Bossanova.


The dues are steep, but all meetings are held at Lou Turks in Philly. With optional after-meeting visits to the sucky-sucky.

[cougarjake13]

t.o. hurt his ankle and its feeling like 04 with the eagles all over again

[HBox]

Suzy Kolber just said "He uses professional football to touch kids."

[cougarjake13]

Suzy Kolber just said "He uses professional football to touch kids."

dirty perv

[Snoogans]

I've found it's alot easier to just use candy

[cougarjake13]

I've found it's alot easier to just use candy

or just tell them you have a wii at home

[underdog]

Pats-Giants to be simulcast on NBC and CBS (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3169075)

[TheGameHHH]

first triple simulcast in NFL history, thats hot

[Judge Smails]

first triple simulcast in NFL history, thats hot

It's also on WWOR in the New York area (and in areas of the country that get WWOR on cable). So, make that a quadruplecast!

[BoondockSaint]

Pats-Giants to be simulcast on NBC and CBS (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3169075)

So, what channel will you watch? Are Simms and Nance doing the CBS game?

[Snoogans]

no simulcast, its gonna be the same announcers no matter what

[DiabloSammich]

I hope the announcers are Gumbel, Faulk, and Deion again.

That would be cool like anal rape.

[BoondockSaint]

no simulcast, its gonna be the same announcers no matter what

It is now obvious: God hates us. He's giving us more Gumble.

[Kevin]

Pats-Giants to be simulcast on NBC and CBS (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3169075)

Boy, the public out-call to see the Giants go 11-5 must have been huge. I guess it is important for us to go into Tampa on a high note.....

[cougarjake13]

Boy, the public out-call to see the Giants go 11-5 must have been huge. I guess it is important for us to go into Tampa on a high note.....

i seriously doubt that was the reason

[Fallon]

It's also on WWOR in the New York area (and in areas of the country that get WWOR on cable). So, make that a quadruplecast!
Yup, on the local ABC channel in Boston as well.

[HBox]

I'm not sure but I don't believe that the Boston and New York NBC and CBS stations will be airing the games. WWOR in NY and ABC in Boston paid for exclusive rights to air the games.

[Fallon]

I'm not sure but I don't believe that the Boston and New York NBC and CBS stations will be airing the games. WWOR in NY and ABC in Boston paid for exclusive rights to air the games.

They will be on all three stations in Boston. That really sucks for the local ABC affiliate.

[Knowledged_one]

I won my fantasy football league

3 TD Passes from Brady, 2 TD's from Stecker and Brandon Jacobs, 1 from MJD, 2 from Kevin Curtis, 1 from Nate Burelson and 1 from the Seattle D

Won my game by 92 points

[cougarjake13]

I'm not sure but I don't believe that the Boston and New York NBC and CBS stations will be airing the games. WWOR in NY and ABC in Boston paid for exclusive rights to air the games.

which is why those stations are pissed

they paid to be able to show it exclusively and now cbs and nbc get to show it for free and sell and put in their own commercial spots

[Snoogans]

which is why those stations are pissed

they paid to be able to show it exclusively and now cbs and nbc get to show it for free and sell and put in their own commercial spots

slow down. I guarantee you CBS and NBC also paid the NFL to carry the game. Let's not act like it was free. In fact, they prob paid more then WWOR and ABC cause they paid to have them nationally, not just in one market

[cougarjake13]

slow down. I guarantee you CBS and NBC also paid the NFL to carry the game. Let's not act like it was free. In fact, they prob paid more then WWOR and ABC cause they paid to have them nationally, not just in one market

from whats been reported they are getting it for nothing

[Snoogans]

if they do, im pretty sure that WWOR and ABC are gonna be gettin some money back

[cougarjake13]

if they do, im pretty sure that WWOR and ABC are gonna be gettin some money back

well thats why they are trying to do






That did not make officials at WWOR in New York happy.


"The NFL is in clear violation of their agreement with WWOR/My9," the station said in a statement. "We fully expect the league to honor their commitment to My9 as the exclusive free over-the-air broadcaster for Saturday's telecast of the New England Patriots at New York Giants game."


In a statement, NFL Network spokesperson Seth Palansky said: "We are in the process of reviewing the situation as it relates to Channel 9."

[Fallon]

Yeah, the local channels are gonna lose a ton of advertising money. Having it on two other channels isn't fair to them.

[King Imp]

How does one go about becoming an NFL official?

Nevermind the whole article. Just read the first line of this.

Official fined game check (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3171273)


$8150 per game?!?! That comes out to $130,400 for 16 weeks and that's not counting the playoffs. I never would have thought they made that much money. Must be nice for 4 months, or if you want to be exact, 16 days of work.

[HBox]

How does one go about becoming an NFL official?

Nevermind the whole article. Just read the first line of this.

Official fined game check (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3171273)


$8150 per game?!?! That comes out to $130,400 for 16 weeks and that's not counting the playoffs. I never would have thought they made that much money. Must be nice for 4 months, or if you want to be exact, 16 days of work.

This is a part time job for a lot of them. I think I remember reading that Ed Hochuli is a lawyer.

[Snoogans]

This is a part time job for a lot of them. I think I remember reading that Ed Hochuli is a lawyer.

like 75% of the refs are lawyers

[PapaBear]

I want to listen to the Pats/Giants game on broadcast radio tonight. I know of an AM station that has it, but I hate listening to AM radio. Does anyone know if there is an FM radio network (nationwide) that will be broadcasting it?

[cougarjake13]

I want to listen to the Pats/Giants game on broadcast radio tonight. I know of an AM station that has it, but I hate listening to AM radio. Does anyone know if there is an FM radio network (nationwide) that will be broadcasting it?

dont know if they stream but here ya go



WBCN 104.1 FM in Boston

[King Hippos Bandaid]

whats lost in the Pats/Giants hoop la is that America will be forced to listen to Bryant Gumbel

I hope the NFL network rethinks him doing the play by play, we don't want to put millions and I MEAN MILLIONS of fans to sleep

[cougarjake13]

whats lost in the Pats/Giants hoop la is that America will be forced to listen to Bryant Gumbel

I hope the NFL network rethinks him doing the play by play, we don't want to put millions and I MEAN MILLIONS of fans to sleep

well he also be on the other channels or will they have new guys calling the action

[King Hippos Bandaid]

well he also be on the other channels or will they have new guys calling the action

its the same NFL network feed

so all gumbel, all the time


come on Flu , do your worst on Bryant Gumbel

[Snoogans]

How does one go about becoming an NFL official?

Nevermind the whole article. Just read the first line of this.

Official fined game check (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3171273)


$8150 per game?!?! That comes out to $130,400 for 16 weeks and that's not counting the playoffs. I never would have thought they made that much money. Must be nice for 4 months, or if you want to be exact, 16 days of work.

he was also a very sr official then. Most of the guys start off around 40-50 K a year for reffing. And remember they have to cover their own travel and expenses out of that pay, they dont get extra for it

[underdog]

he was also a very sr official then. Most of the guys start off around 40-50 K a year for reffing. And remember they have to cover their own travel and expenses out of that pay, they dont get extra for it

And I think they have to make their own flags, too.

NFL Refs are really underpaid, but the NFL refuses to pay them so they can focus specifically on the NFL all year long.

[Snoogans]

thats why i think NFL refs are the best and I give them the most slack on mistakes. All the others do the job year round, it is their profession, and they still suck at it.

Plus Ed Hoculi will kick all their asses

[King Hippos Bandaid]

thats why i think NFL refs are the best and I give them the most slack on mistakes. All the others do the job year round, it is their profession, and they still suck at it.

Plus Ed Hoculi will kick all their asses

Red Cashion could kick Ed Hoculi ass 10 times over

[Snoogans]

who is Red Cashon?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

who is Red Cashon?

a retired Referee who took no guff from anyone

[Snoogans]

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[King Imp]

he was also a very sr official then. Most of the guys start off around 40-50 K a year for reffing. And remember they have to cover their own travel and expenses out of that pay, they dont get extra for it


Either way, I'd gladly take that. Even with paying for expenses, that's a lot of money for a mere 4 months work.

[Snoogans]

true, but keep in mind, when its only 2000 a week at the beginning, its rough

[cougarjake13]

true, but keep in mind, when its only 2000 a week at the beginning, its rough

but think of of the ass you'll be getting

[Snoogans]

And death threats from an entire fan base the first time you miss a call that costs someone a game

[King Hippos Bandaid]

almost time to mute the TV and watch some football

[OGC]

almost time to mute the TV and watch some football


I would do that too if the cocksuckers could sync up the radio audio with the video on the tv. The radio is about 5 seconds ahead of the tv so even the DVR delay option won't help.

[underdog]

16-0

[PhilDeez]

For the forth time this season, the Pats pulled one out they should have lost. Despite the blatent assistance from the officials, eh NFL, they are very talented and are the best team this year. That said, has everyone forgotten the fact the cheats were exposed early in the season? As much as I despise the 72 Dolphins, this team needs to go down.

[underdog]

For the forth time this season, the Pats pulled one out they should have lost. Despite the blatent assistance from the officials, eh NFL, they are very talented and are the best team this year. That said, has everyone forgotten the fact the cheats were exposed early in the season? As much as I despise the 72 Dolphins, this team needs to go down.

Good teams win close games. The Dolphins had like 8 games that were decided by 3 points or less. They won one (1) game. Good teams pull out close wins. [edit - actually, the Dolphins had 6 games decided by 3 points]

And yes, the "cheats" were exposed early in the season (week 1). Which means they've been under the watchful eye of the NFL for the final 15 games. So they're probably the first team in NFL history to DEFINITELY not cheat for the final 15 games of their season.

Also, what is the "blatant assistance" they've been getting? I'm so sick of people complaining about the refs. It evens out over a season for every team.

[PhilDeez]

Good teams win close games. The Dolphins had like 8 games that were decided by 3 points or less. They won one (1) game. Good teams pull out close wins.

And yes, the "cheats" were exposed early in the season (week 1). Which means they've been under the watchful eye of the NFL for the final 15 games. So they're probably the first team in NFL history to DEFINITELY not cheat for the final 15 games of their season.

Also, what is the "blatant assistance" they've been getting? I'm so sick of people complaining about the refs. It evens out over a season for every team.

Did you watch the Baltimore game? How about tonights game? Uh in the first half, 3rd an 14 and an illegal contact is called that even up the Pats ass Collinsworth questioned; the pas interference against Moss late was BS, the personal foul on Toomer on the kickoff was horse shit - all three were critical calls.

[Fallon]

For the forth time this season, the Pats pulled one out they should have lost. Despite the blatent assistance from the officials, eh NFL, they are very talented and are the best team this year. That said, has everyone forgotten the fact the cheats were exposed early in the season? As much as I despise the 72 Dolphins, this team needs to go down.

Assistance? Like the bogus penalty for celebrating that led to a kickoff return?

[Earlshog]

Did you watch the Baltimore game? How about tonights game? Uh in the first half, 3rd an 14 and an illegal contact is called that even up the Pats ass Collinsworth questioned; the pas interference against Moss late was BS, the personal foul on Toomer on the kickoff was horse shit - all three were critical calls.

I agree there were some questionable calls, the call on Butler in paticular was terrible, however the PI call against Moss was correct..

[PhilDeez]

[QUOTE=underdog;1566020]And yes, the "cheats" were exposed early in the season (week 1). Which means they've been under the watchful eye of the NFL for the final 15 games. So they're probably the first team in NFL history to DEFINITELY not cheat for the final 15 games of their season.QUOTE]

Or the cheats could be getting every GD call to enhance the chance to erase the cheating scandal? How many close calls have miraculously gone the Pats way in the last 3 close games? I am not stupid enough to believe in a conspiracy theory, just pissed enough to bring it up after yet another close win.
Great team, still need 3 more...lets wait and see.

[Bama]

Congrats to the Pats.

16-0*

[Fallon]

Congrats to the Pats.

16-0

Thanks!

[PhilDeez]

Assistance? Like the bogus penalty for celebrating that led to a kickoff return?

BS. Moss got lifted in the air by a teamate while Maroney celebrated and they all danced=group celebration, 15 yds.

[TheGameHHH]

BS. Moss got lifted in the air by a teamate while Maroney celebrated and they all danced=group celebration, 15 yds.

dude, take off your hater glasses and open your eyes. it absolutely was not a group celebration but whatever......thats how the call went. and also Moss' PI call was 100% correct, you must turn your head as a D-back.

[underdog]

Did you watch the Baltimore game? How about tonights game? Uh in the first half, 3rd an 14 and an illegal contact is called that even up the Pats ass Collinsworth questioned; the pas interference against Moss late was BS, the personal foul on Toomer on the kickoff was horse shit - all three were critical calls.

Did you watch the Patriots/Indy game?

Like I said, the shitty calls even out over the year. Stop bitching about officiating.

And I think the PF call on Toomer was because he spit in someone's face. If you watch the replay, he cocks his head back and it goes forward like he's spitting, and then the flag comes flying.

The illegal contact was a correct call. It was ticky tack, yes. But it was still by the rule.

[PhilDeez]

Did you watch the Patriots/Indy game?

Like I said, the shitty calls even out over the year. Stop bitching about officiating.

And I think the PF call on Toomer was because he spit in someone's face. If you watch the replay, he cocks his head back and it goes forward like he's spitting, and then the flag comes flying.

The illegal contact was a correct call. It was ticky tack, yes. But it was still by the rule.

Didn't see that he spit, sorry then it was deserved.
Wish I say the Pats/Colts game. Unfortunately I was in Cleveland that day, and the broadcast was Browns/Seahawks.
Look, the Pats are great. My bitching is just that. My frustration is stemming from too many Sam Adams, why the f would I drink a Boston brewed bear while rooting agains the Pats, and the fact I am prepping my self for a Skins loss tomorrow.

[underdog]

Didn't see that he spit, sorry then it was deserved.
Wish I say the Pats/Colts game. Unfortunately I was in Cleveland that day, and the broadcast was Browns/Seahawks.
Look, the Pats are great. My bitching is just that. My frustration is stemming from too many Sam Adams, why the f would I drink a Boston brewed bear while rooting agains the Pats, and the fact I am prepping my self for a Skins loss tomorrow.

You just redeemed yourself with this post and made me laugh. Thank you. :thumbup:

[underdog]

Didn't see that he spit, sorry then it was deserved.

Also, I'm not positive that he spit, but that's what it looked like to me. And neither of the announcers noticed it, but that usually means nothing, as I'm pretty sure they don't actually watch the game while its going on and just try to guess what's happening.

[PhilDeez]

You just redeemed yourself with this post and made me laugh. Thank you. :thumbup:

Just noticed all of my mispellings...I will only bask in the Pats glory from here on out! As a sports fan you have to appreciate what they are doing, however difficult.

[ralphbxny]

16-0 congrats...now the real fun starts!

[Snoogans]

Did I somehow miss when the Patriots won the SB? Cause ESPN is sure talkin like this is all done

[cougarjake13]

Did I somehow miss when the Patriots won the SB? Cause ESPN is sure talkin like this is all done

it would be real awesome if they lost their first playoff game

[sailor]

Just noticed all of my mispellings...I will only bask in the Pats glory from here on out! As a sports fan you have to appreciate what they are doing, however difficult.

why? misspellings, btw. :innocent:

[Fezticle98]

Bill Cowher on the postgame show:

"Devin Hester might be one of the most electrifying players in the league."

Thanks Bill.

[TheMojoPin]

Got to go to the Bears game today.

First time I've seen Hester do his thing live.

Very cool.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

congrats to the fighting sean taylors, welcome to the playoffs

[PapaBear]

Not that I'm upset about it, but just curious...

Are the Colts the only team that don't have Sean Taylor's number on their helmets?

[Fallon]

Not that I'm upset about it, but just curious...

Are the Colts the only team that don't have Sean Taylor's number on their helmets?

Pats only wore it for a week or two. They already have #91 on there helmets for defensive end Marquise Hill. He drowned before the season started.

[PapaBear]

I can sort of see why the Colts wouldn't have it. They have those stupid giant numbers on the back of their helmets. Denver's helmets are covered. They have Taylor and the two from their team.

[DiabloSammich]

Who's the bigger sentimental favorite in the NFC?


Green Bay with Favre's last (maybe) hurrah?

Or Washington with the Sean Taylor backdrop?


I'm not talking better team, just who you are secretly wishing would take it all.

[Earlshog]

Who's the bigger sentimental favorite in the NFC?


Green Bay with Favre's last (maybe) hurrah?

Or Washington with the Sean Taylor backdrop?


I'm not talking better team, just who you are secretly wishing would take it all.




The Giants... guess my secret is out.....

[DiabloSammich]

The Giants... guess my secret is out.....



Way to be subtle about it.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Lets turn this baby into the NFL playoff thread

Here are my Predictions for the Wildcards and Playoffs minus the G men

Seahawks def Skins 28-17

Chargers def Titans 38-13

Jaguars def Steelers 27-20


although I am not certain on Steelers vs Jags

[Kevin]

Brian Billick.....


YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRR FIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRED (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3175037)

He was done when he lost to Miami.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

its about time, the Ravens need a new system

a new QB, some Receivers, better CBs

they may be the new AFC jobber

[DiabloSammich]

Two years too late.


It shocked me when I realized that with all the QB hassles they went through this year the whole time they had Heisman Winner sitting on the bench.

[underdog]

It shocked me when I realized that with all the QB hassles they went through this year the whole time they had Heisman Winner sitting on the bench.

Well, "heisman winner" doesn't really mean much when it comes to NFL QB.

Troy Smith was drafted to be turned into something else, like a WR or RB.

Also - with all that said, he STILL looked better than the other two.

[DiabloSammich]

Well, "heisman winner" doesn't really mean much when it comes to NFL QB.

Troy Smith was drafted to be turned into something else, like a WR or RB.

Also - with all that said, he STILL looked better than the other two.


True, but is he still a worse option than Boller? Even if he came in as a gimmicky Kordell Stewart reincarnation. They had no offense this year.

[Snoogans]

Gino Terreta won heisman, Charlie Ward too

[underdog]

True, but is he still a worse option than Boller? Even if he came in as a gimmicky Kordell Stewart reincarnation. They had no offense this year.

Billick's problem was that he was terrible with his QB. Boller finally turned a corner at the end of the year like 3 years ago or so. Then the Ravens went out and got a way too old and fragile Steve McNair and rebenched Boller, killing his confidence. Then, as McNair struggled, Billick did nothing, then would randomly force Boller into weird spots, where he'd ultimately fail. Boller's confidence is trashed. There's no way he's going to be a good QB in the league now. And this year, Billick would call 4 pass plays in a row, with McGahee sitting behind the QB on the goal line. His play calling was fucking terrible.

[underdog]

Gino Terreta won heisman, Charlie Ward too

In just the past 10 years, Chris Weinke, Eric Crouch, and Jason White all won it, too.

[Snoogans]

And Larry Fitz got fucked

[Earlshog]

Gino Terreta won heisman, Charlie Ward too

Maybe Smith can play point Guard for the knicks?

[Snoogans]

Maybe Smith can play point Guard for the knicks?

id take charlie ward back at this point over Marbury or whatever guy is playing when Marbury decides he doesn't want to

[Earlshog]

id take charlie ward back at this point over Marbury or whatever guy is playing when Marbury decides he doesn't want to

its true, I remember hating Ward, now we would kill for him

[Kevin]

its true, I remember hating Ward, now we would kill for him

THHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE POINTERR FOOOOOOOOORRR CHARLIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRD.

[cougarjake13]

Who's the bigger sentimental favorite in the NFC?


Green Bay with Favre's last (maybe) hurrah?

Or Washington with the Sean Taylor backdrop?


I'm not talking better team, just who you are secretly wishing would take it all.



i would say favre's packers

[cougarjake13]

Two years too late.


It shocked me when I realized that with all the QB hassles they went through this year the whole time they had Heisman Winner sitting on the bench.


last years 13-3 fluke season gave him the extra time

[cougarjake13]

its true, I remember hating Ward, now we would kill for him

i never hated him as much as i did chris childs

[Snoogans]

i never hated him as much as i did chris childs

i hated chris childs more then anyone. And now I hate half the time more then chris childs. Funny note, overweight chris childs + later in career overweight charlie ward is still < FUCKIN TANK Quentin Richardson. WHAT THE FUCK, PUT THE FORK DOWN. Maybe thats why you are shooting like 3% for the year

[Snoogans]

What a fuckin loser (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3175408)

shouldn't this kids parents do something about this?

[BoondockSaint]

What a fuckin loser (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3175408)

shouldn't this kids parents do something about this?

Why? It's not like it was an Eli jersey.

[cougarjake13]

1. Colts are defending TV Title champions.
2. Colts defeat the Saints on 9/6 to retain the TV Title.
3. Colts defeat the Titans on 9/16 to retain the TV Title.
4. Colts defeat the Texans on 9/23 to retain the TV Title.
5. Colts defeat the Broncos on 9/30 to retain the TV Title.
6. Colts defeat the Bucaneers on 10/7 to retain the TV Title.
7. Colts defeat the Jaguars on 10/22 to retain the TV Title.
8. Colts defeat the Panthers on 10/28 to retain the TV Title.
9. Patriots defeat the Colts on 11/4 to become new TV Title champions.
10.Patriots defeat the Bills on 11/18 to retain the TV Title.
11.Patriots defeat the Eagles on 11/25 to retain the TV Title.
12.Patriots defeat the Ravens 12/3 to retain the TV Title.
13.Patriots defeat the Steelers on 12/9 to retain the TV Title.
14.Patriots defeat the Jets on 12/16to retain the TV Title.
15.Patriots defeat the Dolphins on 12/23 to retain the TV Title.
16.Patriots defeat the Giants on 12/29 to retain the TV Title.



Number of titles held

colts -1
pats- 1

[Earlshog]

Lions fire Martz
Offensive coordinator let go after two season

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/01/02/bc.fbn.lions.martz.ap/index.html

[Knowledged_one]

Lets turn this baby into the NFL playoff thread

Here are my Predictions for the Wildcards and Playoffs minus the G men

Seahawks def Skins 28-17

Chargers def Titans 38-13

Jaguars def Steelers 27-20


although I am not certain on Steelers vs Jags

You know i was nervous about the skins game till i saw this prediction, now i feel a whole lot better

And the Sean Taylor question and answer is: I believe that the NFC East teams are all wearing them, while the rest of the teams in the league it is left up to the individual (i say individual because Vince Wolfork from "The U" wears a Sean Taylor sticker)

[King Hippos Bandaid]

You know i was nervous about the skins game till i saw this prediction, now i feel a whole lot better

And the Sean Taylor question and answer is: I believe that the NFC East teams are all wearing them, while the rest of the teams in the league it is left up to the individual (i say individual because Vince Wolfork from "The U" wears a Sean Taylor sticker)

I like the Skins, but Seattle pwns at home during the early playoff rounds

who am I to change history

[Knowledged_one]

I like the Skins, but Seattle pwns at home during the early playoff rounds

who am I to change history

by predicting a Seahawks win you just may have changed history, just promise me that if the skins win, you predict a cowboys victory ok

[cougarjake13]

Lions fire Martz
Offensive coordinator let go after two season

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/01/02/bc.fbn.lions.martz.ap/index.html

billick is out as ravens coach


will he get another head gig or will he go back to coordinator for a season or 2 ???

[Earlshog]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/01/03/bc.fbn.dolphins.cameron.ap/index.html


Dolphins fire coach Cameron

[King Hippos Bandaid]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/01/03/bc.fbn.dolphins.cameron.ap/index.html


Dolphins fire coach Cameron


who didn't see this coming . Parcells is cleaning house. I see a re emerging of Ricky Williams and the fins winning 6 games , then the new coach getting fired

[RAAMONE]

who didn't see this coming . Parcells is cleaning house. I see a re emerging of Ricky Williams and the fins winning 6 games , then the new coach getting fired

parcells said he didnt want any problems on his team...i actually see him trading ricky...if anyone wants him

[underdog]

parcells said he didnt want any problems on his team...i actually see him trading ricky...if anyone wants him

Really? I know Parcells likes chemistry on his teams, but he's usually not shy at taking on the problem players.

[RAAMONE]

Really? I know Parcells likes chemistry on his teams, but he's usually not shy at taking on the problem players.

Bill Parcells was introduced as the new executive for the Miami Dolphins today, with the great statement of "I don't want thugs and hoodlums on the team," Parcells said of the types of players he'll try to acquire. "I really don't. I don't want bad-character guys. I don't want problem children."

[underdog]

Bill Parcells was introduced as the new executive for the Miami Dolphins today, with the great statement of "I don't want thugs and hoodlums on the team," Parcells said of the types of players he'll try to acquire. "I really don't. I don't want bad-character guys. I don't want problem children."

Weird. I guess it makes sense, but Parcells has always had problem children (usually GREAT ones).

[RAAMONE]

Weird. I guess it makes sense, but Parcells has always had problem children (usually GREAT ones).

i thought it was a weird statement too...he took on T.O. (one of the greatest "problems" to ever play the game) and he really quieted him down and changed him...i thought he would be up for a challenge

[Knowledged_one]

He took on TO but not by choice, and why would they bring back Ricky Williams if they have Ronnie Brown what sense would that make

[Gritty]

Dolphins fire Cam Cameron and most of his staff...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080103/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_dolphins_cameron_fired

I wonder why. Hmmm...

[Knowledged_one]

Can we fire you for not bothering to check the NFL thread page?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Ricky Williams isn't bad, he is just a hippie trapped in a black football players body

[RAAMONE]

Can we fire you for not bothering to check the NFL thread page?

you're FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRED!

[Snoogans]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22487240/

Apparently, the Colts and Titans may have made an agreement to let the Titans win so they made the playoffs. If it is true, look at how people know:

Tennessee quarterback Kerry Collins said on WFAN Radio on Thursday that the Titans kneeled at the end of the game Sunday because they knew the Colts wouldn't call a timeout.

With Tennessee leading 16-10 and needing a victory to make the playoffs, the Titans had originally called a running play, Collins said. But the team changed to a kneeldown when he was told over his headset that the Colts wouldn't call a timeout, which would have possibly forced the Titans to punt with less than 20 seconds left in the game, Collins said.

"Apparently there was some communication between Jeff (Fisher) and Tony (Dungy)," Collins said on WFAN.

[BoondockSaint]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22487240/

Apparently, the Colts and Titans may have made an agreement to let the Titans win so they made the playoffs. If it is true, look at how people know:

Tennessee quarterback Kerry Collins said on WFAN Radio on Thursday that the Titans kneeled at the end of the game Sunday because they knew the Colts wouldn't call a timeout.

With Tennessee leading 16-10 and needing a victory to make the playoffs, the Titans had originally called a running play, Collins said. But the team changed to a kneeldown when he was told over his headset that the Colts wouldn't call a timeout, which would have possibly forced the Titans to punt with less than 20 seconds left in the game, Collins said.

"Apparently there was some communication between Jeff (Fisher) and Tony (Dungy)," Collins said on WFAN.


Good. Fuck the Browns.

[Knowledged_one]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22487240/

Apparently, the Colts and Titans may have made an agreement to let the Titans win so they made the playoffs. If it is true, look at how people know:

Tennessee quarterback Kerry Collins said on WFAN Radio on Thursday that the Titans kneeled at the end of the game Sunday because they knew the Colts wouldn't call a timeout.

With Tennessee leading 16-10 and needing a victory to make the playoffs, the Titans had originally called a running play, Collins said. But the team changed to a kneeldown when he was told over his headset that the Colts wouldn't call a timeout, which would have possibly forced the Titans to punt with less than 20 seconds left in the game, Collins said.

"Apparently there was some communication between Jeff (Fisher) and Tony (Dungy)," Collins said on WFAN.

I think this is way off, Tony Dungy is not in collusion with anybody to throw a game that guy really seems to be above this kind of stuff and does things with more pride and dignity then most. Tony probably didnt see the benefit in calling the timeouts when the outcome of the game didnt bear on his teams standings in the playoffs. He probably didnt want to lose any special team players and tehn trot out limp arm sorgi to heave it up

[cougarjake13]

I think this is way off, Tony Dungy is not in collusion with anybody to throw a game that guy really seems to be above this kind of stuff and does things with more pride and dignity then most. Tony probably didnt see the benefit in calling the timeouts when the outcome of the game didnt bear on his teams standings in the playoffs. He probably didnt want to lose any special team players and tehn trot out limp arm sorgi to heave it up

if proven to be true what would the reprecussions be ??

[Earlshog]

if proven to be true what would the reprecussions be ??


Tennesse would have to start Kerry Collins next season

[Snoogans]

if proven to be true what would the reprecussions be ??

I know its against the rules. I dont know for sure the penalty, but at this point, probably a draft pick type deal like with NE, but a lesser pick. Maybe a 3rd round or something

[underdog]

I know its against the rules. I dont know for sure the penalty, but at this point, probably a draft pick type deal like with NE, but a lesser pick. Maybe a 3rd round or something

Really? I would think the NFL would have to come down really hard on the Colts. The Patriots got caught videotaping signal. The Colts could be "caught" directly effecting the outcome of a game.

[Snoogans]

yea but its against the rules to film signals, and they had sent out memos all year sayin dont do this. It isnt illegal to not call a timeout at the end of the game. So i think even if they did talk about it, they would be easier then they were on NE

[King Hippos Bandaid]

playoffs start today, fucking rocks unless you are a Jets fan

4-12 and a Mediocre QB Controversy , good luck with that

[cougarjake13]

yea but its against the rules to film signals, and they had sent out memos all year sayin dont do this. It isnt illegal to not call a timeout at the end of the game. So i think even if they did talk about it, they would be easier then they were on NE

well if they got in trouble it wouldnt be for the lack of calling a timeout

it would be if they could prove or had evidence of dungy and fischer making a deal

[Snoogans]

well if they got in trouble it wouldnt be for the lack of calling a timeout

it would be if they could prove or had evidence of dungy and fischer making a deal

the problem is, how are you ever gonna prove it? Im pretty sure there is no way for one team to radio to the other. If Tony Dungy and Jeff Fisher had some hand singnals, who could possibly know. Plus neither Dungy nor Fisher seem to be the type of guy who would do that. In fact, the most likely, to me, is what Fisher said. Having been friends for years and on the competition comittee together, he just had a sense Dungy wouldnt risk anything stupid in a game that didn't matter to him.

The only reason I hope it's true is so Kerry Collins ends up being the one who ran his fat mouth.

[Snoogans]

playoffs start today, fucking rocks unless you are a Jets fan

4-12 and a Mediocre QB Controversy , good luck with that

Anyone who lives in the NY area and isnt a Jets fan is throwing a party cause they actually, finally, dont have to sit through a boring ass jets game

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Anyone who lives in the NY area and isnt a Jets fan is throwing a party cause they actually, finally, dont have to sit through a boring ass jets game


like that thriller against KC. the only thing going for Jet Fans is that they know how to tailgate in style

[cougarjake13]

the problem is, how are you ever gonna prove it? Im pretty sure there is no way for one team to radio to the other. If Tony Dungy and Jeff Fisher had some hand singnals, who could possibly know. Plus neither Dungy nor Fisher seem to be the type of guy who would do that. In fact, the most likely, to me, is what Fisher said. Having been friends for years and on the competition comittee together, he just had a sense Dungy wouldnt risk anything stupid in a game that didn't matter to him.

The only reason I hope it's true is so Kerry Collins ends up being the one who ran his fat mouth.

oh yeh it would be hard as hell to prove unless someone was miked and they picked it up

otherwise you'd have to have either dungy or fischer confirm it which i don think they would do

[cougarjake13]

Anyone who lives in the NY area and isnt a Jets fan is throwing a party cause they actually, finally, dont have to sit through a boring ass jets game

thats one of the plusses i have from moving down here

no more jets games forced on me when they're are better games on to watch, but i ususally get stuck with dolphin games so i guess its a wash

[TheGameHHH]

thats one of the plusses i have from moving down here

no more jets games forced on me when they're are better games on to watch, but i ususally get stuck with dolphin games so i guess its a wash

i was so happy when i moved down here that i would no longer be subjected to shitty Jets games and awful Eli Manning. Turns out i was stuck with a 1-15 team instead. Somehow, option A was better.

[BoondockSaint]

Well, after watching the first half of this game, I've learned one thing. The Seahawks hate Sean Taylor.

[Kevin]

Well, after watching the first half of this game, I've learned one thing. The Seahawks hate Sean Taylor.

Yea. fucking bastards.

[cougarjake13]

i was so happy when i moved down here that i would no longer be subjected to shitty Jets games and awful Eli Manning. Turns out i was stuck with a 1-15 team instead. Somehow, option A was better.

yeh but even still whatever other game was on is still better than having to watch the jets game

[cougarjake13]

holy fuck the skins are lucky motherfuckers

[Bossanova]

Yea. fucking bastards.

Now the Seahawks really hate number 21.


I really hope they don't cwedit him Mikey, that would just be bwutal to listen to

[cougarjake13]

Now the Seahawks really hate number 21.


I really hope they don't cwedit him Mikey, that would just be bwutal to listen to

you know every single player on that team will

it will be "first want to thank god and then thanks to sean"

[Bossanova]

How many 21 hats do you think Reebok has sold

[TheMojoPin]

Apparently Sean Taylor is rooting for this win from the heavens.

Sean Taylor is to Chris Collinsworth as 9/11 is to Giuliani.

Thank you, SAT's.

[TheMojoPin]

Was Sean sleeping on that one? Or does he just hate that kicker? GET TO WORK, LAZY DEAD GUY.

[Bossanova]

Was Sean sleeping on that one? Or does he just hate that kicker? GET TO WORK, LAZY DEAD GUY.

HAHA, I thought the exact same thing. Does he like Hackett too

[Kevin]

Taylor must have been watching something else during that FG..

He's got this, i am gunna go get a soda..

Comes back.. HE MISSED??

edit..

Damn Yee Mojo...

IT WAS A TRAP! He lulled Hassleback into throwing that INT by making the kicker missing that FG... It was a track for fake QB's

[TheMojoPin]

Uh-oh, Sean just started paying attention again.

[Bossanova]

Taylor must have been watching something else during that FG..

He's got this, i am gunna go get a soda..

Comes back.. HE MISSED??

And now he came back.

[TheMojoPin]

Taylor must have been watching something else during that FG..

He's got this, i am gunna go get a soda..

Comes back.. HE MISSED??

"OK, I'm gonna guide this with my heavenly hands, no problem, no problem, no prob-OH, SHIT! IS THAT PICASSO AND BIGGIE?!?"

[Knowledged_one]

You guys just dont understand what Sean Taylor means to the redskins, but cris collinsworth really is a blithering idiot

Sean Taylor was the future of this team and his murder just really really crippled the skins and they are playing on his emotions

[Bossanova]

I just realized what is going on here. This is not Sean Taylor's doing.

Hippo picked the Seahawks in his NFL contest.

[TheMojoPin]

You guys just dont understand what Sean Taylor means to the redskins, but cris collinsworth really is a blithering idiot

Sean Taylor was the future of this team and his murder just really really crippled the skins and they are playing on his emotions

Dude, I understand how much he meant to those guys and the fans, and his death was a terrible thing...I'm just tooling on Collinsworth's ridiculous hyperbole.

[Kevin]

Dude, I understand how much he meant to those guys and the fans, and his death was a terrible thing...I'm just tooling on Collinsworth's ridiculous hyperbole.

Ditto.

[HBox]

Oh man I hope Seattle wins with 21 points. Does that make me a bad person?

Don't even respond, i know the answer.

[cougarjake13]

Oh man I hope Seattle wins with 21 points. Does that make me a bad person?

Don't even respond, i know the answer.


nope i thought of that too

[Kevin]

And the big bad rockstar proceeded to fuck the shit out of Trump's daughter afterwards...

[Bossanova]

Oh man I hope Seattle wins with 21 points. Does that make me a bad person?

Don't even respond, i know the answer.

For starters, if you are making fun of that fat walruss fuck Andy. I support you.

Even better would be if they won 21-20 as the skins miss their 21st point

[cougarjake13]

maybe its just me but


why the hell are the lights on at safeco field ?????

[Bossanova]

Great fucking blocking

[Kevin]

Santana just pulled a Sinorice...

[TheMojoPin]

Wow, Moss really shit the bed there. That's some dumbass football.

[BoondockSaint]

maybe its just me but


why the hell are the lights on at safeco field ?????


So it's not dark.

[HBox]

boooooooooooooooooo

You scored too many points Seattle.

Now watch, Washington scores another touchdown and even though they lost everyones inj tears.

[cougarjake13]

boooooooooooooooooo

You scored too many points Seattle.

Now watch, Washington scores another touchdown and even though they lost everyones inj tears.

actually seattle will score again and the skins lose by 21 and everyone cries

[BoondockSaint]

Oh man I hope Seattle wins with 21 points. Does that make me a bad person?

Don't even respond, i know the answer.


Say hi to Satan for me.

[cougarjake13]

actually seattle will score again and the skins lose by 21 and everyone cries

told ya

[King Hippos Bandaid]

lovely parting gifts for the fighting Sean Taylors

if only you can return a recovered kick off, soory soooreeeeeyyyy

[cougarjake13]

lovely parting gifts for the fighting Sean Taylors

if only you can return a recovered kick off, soory soooreeeeeyyyy

why is that a rule ???????

[Bama]

That sucked.

Winning by 21 points was just wrong.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

why is that a rule ???????

not sure I actually don't agree with it

[cougarjake13]

not sure I actually don't agree with it

but who does it hurt ???

[mdr55]

Wow. Tie game. 7-7.