Mad Men

[Bulldogcakes]

http://media.amctv.com/originals/madmen/img/img_home_madmen_top.jpg
Premieres tonight on AMC (http://media.amctv.com/originals/madmen/?s_cid=yahoo1)

Mad Men is AMC’s provocative new original series from writer and executive producer Matthew Weiner of The Sopranos. Set in 1960 New York, Mad Men pulls the viewer into an unexpected new world - the high-powered and glamorous “Golden Age” of advertising - where everyone is selling something and nothing is ever what you expect it to be.

I'll check it out since its a Sopranos alum. It doesn't sound like a great concept to me, but neither did the Sopranos when I first heard of it. The Ad business can be a completely upside down world, so it might be good.

[LiddyRules]

I'm interested in seeing it since I always loved that life and time. For awhile I even thought about getting into marketing before realizing that I am probably not good enough.

I might wait until it gets further into the season since I'm not particularly interested in starting a new series now. Also seeing people do things that I wish I could do that might, at some point, have been accomplishable kind of depresses me.

[Furtherman]

Being "in the biz", I think I'll check it out.

But I don't think times have changed that much since then.

The pretty girls get hired and eveybody fucks everyone else. Literally. I don't even know why most of these folks are married.

[cougarjake13]

ill check it out just for the period piece aspect of it

but the nostalgia of a time i didnt live in will wear off so it'll need some good writing to keep me on board

[Bulldogcakes]

Not bad. Some interesting story lines, some good characters. I'll tune in again next week.

One thing that stands out is how different everybody talked, routinely saying things that would you fired immediately nowadays. And how different the women were in so many ways as compared to today. Interesting stuff.

[LiddyRules]

but the nostalgia of a time i didnt live in I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. I was born in 83 and have no desire to go back to the 80s or 90s. But a time like the 70s or 60s or especially the 1920s seem so much cooler than 80s-00s.

[marky2bucks]

I've been watching the first season on On Demand. I didn't catch it while it on regular TV, but it's really good. I recommend it for a couch-ridden sunday hangover.

The blatant sexism, racism, and alcoholism of the sixties culture is hilarious.

[WampusCrandle]

its probably one of my fav. shows right now, just finished watching the new episode - great, as the rest. pete campbell is a douche of epic proportions.

[antifaith]

its probably one of my fav. shows right now

Mine too. Definitely.

This season's going really, really slowly tho, just like the beginning eps of last season.

I was even watching the time.

One thing that occurred to me was that some scenes were unnecessary or mebbe unnecessarily long for what little information was gleaned from them.

I'm certainly not giving up tho. I hung on last season & felt I was duly rewarded for it.


pete campbell is a douche of epic proportions.

Hands down best character.

I think about the show a little more than is necessary or healthy. Earlier I realized that he n Don are really very similar. And I mean the fact that they are both sociopaths/don't know what they're doing/don't really feel anything/want more than anything to be in control or appear to be in control (at work & at home). From last season I can think of more examples of Don losing control than Pete.

They are both so needy in the way they demand respect from others/need to keep up appearances.

Pete definitely has the most potential. His downfall is that he's younger & hasn't quite learned how to hide his hunger &/or rage. I can't help but think it's already too late for Don. I don't mean the Duck factor either. I can only foresee one trick pony Don fighting & fighting to keep his position there until there is nothing left of him whereas I can see Pete shooting off in any number of directions.

[PD]

I've been watching the first season on On Demand. I didn't catch it while it on regular TV, but it's really good. I recommend it for a couch-ridden sunday hangover.

The blatant sexism, racism, and alcoholism of the sixties culture is hilarious.

I too found the first season is on demand, so I can catch up since I wasn't on board earlier.

[TheMojoPin]

I too found the first season is on demand, so I can catch up since I wasn't on board earlier.

Tha's what I've done over the last month. Awesome show.

[hammersavage]

I searched and didn't find a thread. How there isn't a thread for the best show on television, I don't know.


But season 3 begins this Sunday on AMC at 10pm.




Where we last left off:
Peggy got a new haircut and a new office. Just told Pete about having his baby and giving it away.

Joan is engaged to be married to a handsome doctor, but all is not well. He basically raped her in Don's office.

Duck Phillips worked a deal to sell Sterling Cooper to the Brits. Now they are in control and he is president.

Roger left Mona for the maddeningly hot Jane. Despite her age, they are to be married.

Betty, oh Betty. She found out she was pregnant with child #3. Then goes and cheats on Don with some man in a bar bathroom. Somewhat of payback for his infidelity.

Don went on a 3 week disappearance in California. We learned a little bit more about Dick Whitman. Upon returning home, his marriage is in shambles and his company was sold. But he doesn't work under a contract and has a ton of money from the sale. Will he venture out on his own? Will he and Betty move on with their relationship?



I can't wait for this season. It should be a year or so in the future. The British invasion is in full force, both the company and the Beatles.

The show is exquisitely crafted and perfectly acted. I am so glad Matt Weiner came back to run things. Should be a great season.

[Slumbag]

I watched 5 or 6 episodes and really dug it.
They were out of order, but I kinda got the gist.


I keep meaning to grab the box sets, but just don't have the time or cash.

[hammersavage]

I watched 5 or 6 episodes and really dug it.
They were out of order, but I kinda got the gist.


I keep meaning to grab the box sets, but just don't have the time or cash.

Well, season 2 is free On Demand. Probably only until the season starts. But you can catch the last few to be all caught up.

I have season 1 on DVD so I rewatched the last few weeks. Just incredibly good, even the 2nd time.

[grlNIN]

You are basically Mojo Jr. at this point.

Season 2 came out on dvd about a month ago. Good show, don't like John Hamm's squinty face.

[TheMojoPin]

Fuckin' love the show but I've only seen the 1st season so I'm avoiding season 3 for the time being.

[hammersavage]

You are basically Mojo Jr. at this point.

Season 2 came out on dvd about a month ago. Good show, don't like John Hamm's squinty face.


I had seen it when it aired. I just didn't buy the dvd's, rather rewatch on demand.


And thanks for calling me mojo jr.

[King Imp]

Christina Hendricks has an incredible rack.

Yeah, that's about the extent of my contribution to this thread.

[WampusCrandle]

great wrap-up hammer. I love this show, and have both seasons (plus my sigs). Don could be one of the best male characters in television history. do you know what year it will be in? I'm going with 1966 or 1967. All i know is that JFK will be shot, but they wont dwell on the subject all that much (trying to not be hack like some shows might)

the show has a great way of dealing with products, movements, peoples, and social situations they way it would realistically have happened then, and not some shitty acting nor oddly pointing out something from that era (that 70s show, that 80s show, most period movies).

[hammersavage]

It will be about 7 or 8 months later. Betty is still pregnant

[PD]

If you aren't watching this show, you should be.

If you are watching, it returns with Season 3 tonight
(10pm Eastern).

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/television/article/681881

http://nobodyputsbabyinahorner.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/mad-men-season3-full-543x800-jpg.jpeg

[monkfish]

I'm rushing to finish Season 2...hopefully by next week I'll be caught up and ready to watch live. Great show - those fellas sure know how to treat a gal.

[S0S]

Season 3, Episode 1

More on the life and birth of Don Draper?

Hmm, London Fog account.

Oh, no. Both Pete and Ken are both named head of accounts!

[hammersavage]

The irony of the building bursting into flames once Sal kissed that hotel employee was not lost on me. Pretty interesting the way Don found out, but I always thought he would be fine with it. Considering his past.

And Pete is such a worm with that office dance after the promotion. Or half promotion. I love Kenny, can't wait to see them square off.

LOATHE the British. Every one of them. I want them gone from SterlingCoo immediately.



and can a lazy mod merge this one with the one PD made after it. thanks

[grlNIN]

Joan is turning into a fatty.

Thought the episode was ok, could have been better for a season opener.

[hammersavage]

Joan is still hot. Might be morbid, but can't wait for the Kennedy assassination episode.


mods will merge this eventually.

[TheMojoPin]

Nah.

I could just do this.

[PD]

I searched and didn't find a thread. How there isn't a thread for the best show on television, I don't know.


But season 3 begins this Sunday on AMC at 10pm.




Where we last left off:
Peggy got a new haircut and a new office. Just told Pete about having his baby and giving it away.

Joan is engaged to be married to a handsome doctor, but all is not well. He basically raped her in Don's office.

Duck Phillips worked a deal to sell Sterling Cooper to the Brits. Now they are in control and he is president.

Roger left Mona for the maddeningly hot Jane. Despite her age, they are to be married.

Betty, oh Betty. She found out she was pregnant with child #3. Then goes and cheats on Don with some man in a bar bathroom. Somewhat of payback for his infidelity.

Don went on a 3 week disappearance in California. We learned a little bit more about Dick Whitman. Upon returning home, his marriage is in shambles and his company was sold. But he doesn't work under a contract and has a ton of money from the sale. Will he venture out on his own? Will he and Betty move on with their relationship?



I can't wait for this season. It should be a year or so in the future. The British invasion is in full force, both the company and the Beatles.

The show is exquisitely crafted and perfectly acted. I am so glad Matt Weiner came back to run things. Should be a great season.

The irony of the building bursting into flames once Sal kissed that hotel employee was not lost on me. Pretty interesting the way Don found out, but I always thought he would be fine with it. Considering his past.

And Pete is such a worm with that office dance after the promotion. Or half promotion. I love Kenny, can't wait to see them square off.

LOATHE the British. Every one of them. I want them gone from SterlingCoo immediately.



and can a lazy mod merge this one with the one PD made after it. thanks
I don't know why Mojopin just locked that, but bump.

[TheMojoPin]

I'm a jerk.

And I serve no hammersavage.

[hammersavage]

I'm a jerk.

And I serve no hammersavage.

I meant the other mods. you know you're the best.

[hammersavage]

this pretty much sums up last nights episode

http://wac.10f4.edgecastcdn.net/8010F4/warmingglow.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/roger-blackface.jpg

[Dan 'Hampton]

this pretty much sums up last nights episode

http://wac.10f4.edgecastcdn.net/8010F4/warmingglow.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/roger-blackface.jpg

It was a soiree!

[boonanas]

Did anyone else feel very uncomfortable when Peggy did that Bye Bye Birdie dance? Elisabeth Moss was made for the role.

[PD]

I've been watching but so far It has been a bit disappointing.

that black face scene though was "interesting"

[Dan 'Hampton]

At the end of each show i'm amazed at how little happened and yet i feel good watching it.

[hammersavage]

At the end of each show i'm amazed at how little happened and yet i feel good watching it.

I'm pretty much the same way. It really is a show to be taken as a whole. When taken individually, each episode isn't overly impressive and nothing major usually happens. Almost like the anti-Lost.

The show is relaxed, slow paced but each action is thoughtful and has meaning. The look, the acting, and the overall themes that play out make it so great.

[PD]

I'm pretty much the same way. It really is a show to be taken as a whole. When taken individually, each episode isn't overly impressive and nothing major usually happens. Almost like the anti-Lost.

The show is relaxed, slow paced but each action is thoughtful and has meaning. The look, the acting, and the overall themes that play out make it so great.
good description

even though ive said i've been kinda disappointed, it doesn't mean that I wont watch it- and I find the acting excellent.

[Fallon]

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[hammersavage]

back to back Emmy wins for Best Drama.

[Arkbugark]

Best show going. Tonights was a bloodbath too. LOL

[robot artist]

I am so glad Matt Weiner came back to run things.

What do you mean "came back"?

He was there all through seasons one and two... did I miss something - was there a time he left, or wasn't coming back for season three? This show is his baby - I can't imagine him walking away from it.

Splain pleeze.

[hammersavage]

What do you mean "came back"?

He was there all through seasons one and two... did I miss something - was there a time he left, or wasn't coming back for season three? This show is his baby - I can't imagine him walking away from it.

Splain pleeze.

he was the show runner for season 1 and 2. he got into a contract dispute with Lionsgate on season 3. He was pretty much definitely gone but it got worked out in the end.


When Crane started to clap when they announced that no one was being fired, I laffed and laffed.

And that guys foot got fucked up. By the secretary I always hated too.

[monkfish]

As soon as I saw the tractor/foot thing I wondered if they had just jumped the shark. We'll see.

[robot artist]

As soon as I saw the tractor/foot thing I wondered if they had just jumped the shark. We'll see.

I have to admit, as the lawnmower sound got lounder and louder in the background while Joan and Peggy talked, I cringed. You could see that something over the top was coming a mile away. For me, this was the first moment in the shows run that felt clumsy and forced. I was more dissapointed in the poor set-up than the great payoff.

[robot artist]

he was the show runner for season 1 and 2. he got into a contract dispute with Lionsgate on season 3. He was pretty much definitely gone but it got worked out in the end.

I did not know that. Have the networks not learned anything since the days of Gene Roddenberry and the third season of Star Trek?

[hammersavage]

I thought this was the best episode of the season. With the flashes of the ending, and trying to figure it out as it went along. Real good.

Peggy is a tramp.

[August_West]

I enjoyed the implied Betsy masterbating on her new chaise lounge.
I'm glad they distanced her from the pregnancy gimmick quickly.
She is so gorgeous.

[robot artist]

I love the unspoken subtleties of the show - like in the episode when Betty gave birth, and Dan met that babbling asshole prison guard. The guy was all gung-ho in the waiting room, not even seeming to take in the nurse telling him that the baby was born breach.

Later Dan passed the guy wheeling his wife down the hallway (presumably going home), and when the guy saw Dan he angrily glowered and looked down, averting his eyes and not speaking or making any contact - not even to follow up and ask Dan about his baby. Clearly the implication was that something bad happened with that couples baby - but you're left to wonder what.

It brings to mind The Sopranos and that Russian in the woods - what ever happened to him? Did he escape? Did he die out there? We never found out.

Unanswered questions - just like in real life.

And by the way, what's Dan's problem with Roger?

[WampusCrandle]

I love the unspoken subtleties of the show - like in the episode when Betty gave birth, and Dan met that babbling asshole prison guard. The guy was all gung-ho in the waiting room, not even seeming to take in the nurse telling him that the baby was born breach.

Later Dan passed the guy wheeling his wife down the hallway (presumably going home), and when the guy saw Dan he angrily glowered and looked down, averting his eyes and not speaking or making any contact - not even to follow up and ask Dan about his baby. Clearly the implication was that something bad happened with that couples baby - but you're left to wonder what.

It brings to mind The Sopranos and that Russian in the woods - what ever happened to him? Did he escape? Did he die out there? We never found out.

Unanswered questions - just like in real life.

And by the way, what's Dan's problem with Roger?

who is Dan and where did Don go?

[EffMeBoobs]

Peggy and Duck fucking made me want to vomit. It was like she was fucking her uncle.

[PD]

Peggy and Duck fucking made me want to vomit. It was like she was fucking her uncle.
yeah; it was that weird / awkward thing.

her character in general is pretty awkward- sometimes wanting to be strong, sometimes being passive.

the season is strengthening as it's going along.

Also Cooper made that comment "and who is really signing this contract anyway"- did they ever explicitly say that he knows about Don's real past, or is this the first we see that he may know?

[August_West]

yeah; it was that weird / awkward thing.

her character in general is pretty awkward- sometimes wanting to be strong, sometimes being passive.

the season is strengthening as it's going along.

Also Cooper made that comment "and who is really signing this contract anyway"- did they ever explicitly say that he knows about Don's real past, or is this the first we see that he may know?

They addresed Dons alter identity last season when Campbell tried to out him about it to Sterling and Cooper and they said they already knew and didnt care.

[hammersavage]

They addresed Dons alter identity last season when Campbell tried to out him about it to Sterling and Cooper and they said they already knew and didnt care.

I think it was just to Cooper. Cooper didn't say he knew, just that he didn't care because everyone has something in their past.

I wonder if Cooper killed a bitch, maybe on the day of the crash or something.

[robot artist]

who is Dan and where did Don go?

oops!

[PD]

I think it was just to Cooper. Cooper didn't say he knew, just that he didn't care because everyone has something in their past.
.
I knew campbell tried to "rat him out" but I didn't remember if he got a chance to say it.

There has to be something in coopers past also that explains the fascination with far eastern culture.

[hammersavage]

Pete Campbell, you slimy son of a bitch. And doing that to our own Katja no less.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Goddamn betty looked fantastic.

[WampusCrandle]

the last episode was great. Betty must be freaking the fuck out, finding out about his past life. She really needs to let loose her rage, because she will go crazy and park her car in a lake with her kids in the back seat.

[TheMojoPin]

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Holy shit, how did I miss this? That's hysterical. DO IT, JOEY.

[hammersavage]

"And who are you supposed to be?"

Not only the best episode of the season, but I believe the best of the series. The tension from when Don pulls up to his house and the moment he walks in and hears his kids on, was a fucking panic. Then the thought immediately goes from the chick in the car to his entire past coming to light. Just the way it played out was amazing.

Perfectly acted and perfectly written. I have no idea where the show goes from here, I thought they would have the Dick Whitman story hang over the entire series.

With the last couple weeks and the momentum they have going into the Kennedy assassination in the finale, this already is and will be some of the best television ever.

[A.J.]

Good episode except there was not enough Joan.

[WampusCrandle]

"And who are you supposed to be?"

Not only the best episode of the season, but I believe the best of the series. The tension from when Don pulls up to his house and the moment he walks in and hears his kids on, was a fucking panic. Then the thought immediately goes from the chick in the car to his entire past coming to light. Just the way it played out was amazing.

Perfectly acted and perfectly written. I have no idea where the show goes from here, I thought they would have the Dick Whitman story hang over the entire series.

With the last couple weeks and the momentum they have going into the Kennedy assassination in the finale, this already is and will be some of the best television ever.

i completely agree with you. the worst part of the episode, though great, is just watching Don break in front of his wife. you feel so uncomfortable. i feel like i have to do something, but not sure what.

[hammersavage]

Holy shit. I didn't think they would get to Kennedy until next week. But needless to say, it was amazing. One of the best stretches a show has ever had.

I hope Betty leaves him next week so he can go back to banging crazy pussy.

[hammersavage]

What an incredibly satisfying and well written season finale. Divorce, back-stabbing, Joan and getting kicked in the face by a horse.


The best 4 episodes of any show that's ever aired. And now the show is kinda going in another direction.

I don't know if they can keep the brilliance with Don's secret being revealed to Betty (I thought that was the lynch pin to the show) but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

[Aggie]

It looks like your posting to yourself in here so you obviously love the show. I guess that means I should get the DVD's and get on board.

[monkfish]

What an incredibly satisfying and well written season finale. Divorce, back-stabbing, Joan and getting kicked in the face by a horse.


The best 4 episodes of any show that's ever aired. And now the show is kinda going in another direction.

I don't know if they can keep the brilliance with Don's secret being revealed to Betty (I thought that was the lynch pin to the show) but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

That was a great finale. I wasn't the biggest fan of the middle of the season (after the tractor incident it got a bit soap opera-ish - but that last episode was great.)

[A.J.]

Pete is such a magnificent douchebag.

[hammersavage]

That was a great finale. I wasn't the biggest fan of the middle of the season (after the tractor incident it got a bit soap opera-ish - but that last episode was great.)

That wasn't a great moment.

But from the time Betty found the drawer til the end of last nights episode, it was perfect.



And I actually like Pete. He's a worm and a turd but I see the good in having him around.

[hammersavage]

SUNDAY NIGHT!

The best show on TV returns.


I'm dying to see Draper post-Betty and on his own. And what the fuck is the new agency gonna look like. Here's something to get you in the mood, cawksuckas:

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[KC2OSO]

And I actually like Pete. He's a worm and a turd but I see the good in having him around.
The closer was amazing.
Pete really is a douche but there are 8.5 million reasons to keep him around and I like that he just fucked Peggy out of anger.
Too bad Sal Romano left. I liked his character. Too bad that fire alarm went off. Why did he leave anyway? I know they gutted the art dept. but was there some other reason?
I bet Betty returns unmarried to that old man Harry or whatever his name is. Probably not - but maybe.
Joan is just fantastic.
Sunday night...

[Jayw]

SUNDAY NIGHT!

The best show on TV returns.


I'm dying to see Draper post-Betty and on his own. And what the fuck is the new agency gonna look like. Here's something to get you in the mood, cawksuckas:


Ya I am pumped about seeing how this new agency pans out. I just saw the pilot last weekend and then watched seasons 1-3 in the next couple days. I was really impressed, after breaking bad I was hoping it would be good as well. Was able to avoid ever seeing an episode till the other day.

I thought season 1 was amazing. One of the most impressive first seasons I have seen on TV. Draper and Sterling are just awesome when they are together so when they were beefing in season 3 it was a bummer. That scene where they just got back from getting trashed at lunch and the elevator was broken was one of my favorite scenes yet. Cracked my shit up.

So ya looking forward to Sunday, I just got lucky in my timing of watching seasons 1-3 I had no idea 4th season was about to start.

[Jayw]

The closer was amazing.
Pete really is a douche but there are 8.5 million reasons to keep him around and I like that he just fucked Peggy out of anger.
Too bad Sal Romano left. I liked his character. Too bad that fire alarm went off. Why did he leave anyway? I know they gutted the art dept. but was there some other reason?
I bet Betty returns unmarried to that old man Harry or whatever his name is. Probably not - but maybe.
Joan is just fantastic.
Sunday night...

Sal got fired cause he didnt bang the lucky strike guy. It was Sterling Coopers biggest account worth 25 mil so Draper had to fire him to keep lucky strike from leaving their agency. The lucky strike guy was embarassed and wanted him gone.

[KC2OSO]

Sal got fired cause he didnt bang the lucky strike guy. It was Sterling Coopers biggest account worth 25 mil so Draper had to fire him to keep lucky strike from leaving their agency. The lucky strike guy was embarassed and wanted him gone.
Thanks. Totally missed that episode - obviously.

[hammersavage]

MA Men 2

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[KC2OSO]

Bump

[hammersavage]

Love the new office. Feels familiar

[Jayw]

Ya the new office is pretty nice. you got to love that draper and sterling chemistry they crack me up everytime. Looks like its shaping up pretty good.

[hammersavage]

Draper, you sick fucker

[Jayw]

most hated character= betty draper. Everything she does is annoying.

[Jayw]

New edgy Don is going to be sweet. BTW almost no commercials was cool, suprised AMC isnt trying to cash in.

[hammersavage]

Loved the turn Don took at the end, that was awesome. Sally Draper is almost lisp free. Good to be back.

[KC2OSO]

Don throws Jantzen out of the office. He's A MAD MAN! :ohmy:

[JerseySean]

Best line ever..... "I can put it on my expense account if I say its for whores"

[A.J.]

Loved Don getting slapped by the hooker.

[Snacks]

most hated character= betty draper. Everything she does is annoying.

her character has been bitchy but she is by far the sexist housewife ever!

[Jayw]

Ah ya here we go....

[Recyclerz]

Line of the Season (so far):

"Oh, I forgot, nobody wants to think they're a type."

Oooh, that's gotta sting a little bit.

[Fallon]

Just started watching less than two weeks ago and I just finished the second season. I'm addicted. I'll be caught up by next weekend.

[A.J.]

What the fuck was the deal with that creepy kid that was talking to Don's daughter?

I loved watching Roger getting humiliated by the switch-hitting Lucky Strike guy who got Sal fired.

[KC2OSO]

What the fuck was the deal with that creepy kid that was talking to Don's daughter?

I loved watching Roger getting humiliated by the switch-hitting Lucky Strike guy who got Sal fired.
Put the Santa suit on Roger...lol

Creepy kid is an interesting twist. He trashes all of the house except Don's daughter's. He left her a lanyard too. Betty Draper has faded into the background for now. Her new husband is a creep too.

Don and his alcohol problem are getting interesting.

All of this reminds me of a B&W movie I saw a few years ago...trying to think of the name of it. :wallbash:

[A.J.]

I laughed when Peggy's boyfriend thought she was a virgin: and that's why she wasn't putting out.

[Willmore]

Glen is the creepiest fucking kid ever. He has to be a serial killer in the making.

[El Mudo]

Glen is the creepiest fucking kid ever. He has to be a serial killer in the making.


The kid who plays him is Matthew Weiner's son, which is really interesting.

[hammersavage]

I'm halfway thru the episode and I'm convinced Glens gonna rape Sally at point of the knife he carried by the end of the episode.

[grlNIN]

Glen is the creepiest fucking kid ever. He has to be a serial killer in the making.

That's exactly what my boyfriend said when they were in the Christmas tree lot. Once Glen called on the phone & broke into the house he had all the proof he needed.

All of the characters are pissing me off for some reason and i don't know why. I am far less irritated by Pete than i am Peggy. Don & Betty are truly sad, i doubt it will be soon but it's just a matter of time before they're back together-it seems like they feed off each other too much to be apart.

[A.J.]

Don & Betty are truly sad, i doubt it will be soon but it's just a matter of time before they're back together-it seems like they feed off each other too much to be apart.

For Don, I get the sense he just misses his kids. For Betty, I think she realizes that despite his flaws, Don was the better father and provider.

[KC2OSO]

Oh shit. Ballsy move Pete and Sally rocking the little man in the boat. Things are getting strange lol.

[KC2OSO]

I love Mrs. Blankenship.

[hammersavage]

Sally Draper! Go to your room.



So you can masturbate...

[Jayw]

Decent episode tonight. Lot of good one liners. Roger had a few as always along with Don.
Roger- "I use to have a lot of friends, then they were all killed by your yellow buddies"

Shaping up to be an interesting season. Almost halfway through now.

[A.J.]

I love Mrs. Blankenship.

"It's addressed to Mr. Draper!" Joan really fucked Don over by giving him that awful old hag as a secretary.

Sally is getting creepier and creepier: cutting her hair, playing with herself, asking the babysitter if she and her father were "doing it".

And Roger reminded me of my grandfather with his anti-Japanese bias.

[Willmore]

Kind of a meh episode, but I enjoyed the interactions with the Honda people.

[Jayw]

Good shit seeing how Don first met Roger Sterling. I always wondered that.

Another roger line-"the girls on the elevator thought it was a hydrogen bomb."

[Jayw]

I must be in a good mood cause I am really enjoing tonights episode, only 20 min in though.

[Jayw]

I think its just cause Draper is fucking happy(winning that reward) for the first time all season. Or at least acting it. Getting turned down by that chick could start the downward cycle though. 30 min left

[Willmore]

The whole episode felt off for me. Don wasn't Don for even 1 minute of it. He is either a slobbering drunk who can't think straight and blacks out while a chick is blowing him or a giddy fur-coat salesman trying to blow Sterling just to get a job. What happened to the Don that could drink half a Jack Daniels bottle before breakfast and pitch a perfect Marlboro tag at lunch? And even as a car salesman he was all swagger and none of the sissy "I want to get in the door" bullshit that he showed with Sterling.

I get what they were trying to do, show him spiraling downward and the drinking finally affecting his work, but I think we've seen that in the past and it was done far better, it didn't need an episode.

The show is hit and miss. One episode it's the greatest drama on TV, well-deserving of an emmy, the next, it's complete and utter shit.

[CaptainBlowhole]

When you see it...


http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2010/9/1/91%20Mind%20Fck%20_thumb.jpg

[smiler grogan]

When you see it...


http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2010/9/1/91%20Mind%20Fck%20_thumb.jpg

I see it, Cosgrove is back!

[A.J.]

I see it, Cosgrove is back!

Sal would have been so excited if he was still there.

[smiler grogan]

Sal would have been so excited if he was still there.

I love big gay Sal. A little birdie told me that Sallie will brighten our screen once again.

[hammersavage]

top 5 Mad Men scene last night when Don and Pegs were fighting. And he compared himself to Jesus.

Hamm was an absolute tour de force last night.

[Snacks]

Last night was the BEST episode of the entire series. For some reason is was perfect and powerful with great acting. I loved how it seemed that so much happened yet it focused mainly on the 2 main actors Don and Peggy!

[smiler grogan]

Last night was the BEST episode of the entire series. For some reason is was perfect and powerful with great acting. I loved how it seemed that so much happened yet it focused mainly on the 2 main actors Don and Peggy!

I love that Don said uncle like he was 8yrs old.

[Snacks]

is it just me or is Peggy becoming sexy? I dont get it, I have always thought she was ugly and looked like Squiggy from Laverne and Shirley. Now shes getting sexier as she becomes a bitch!

[smiler grogan]

I told my wife as we were watching this episode that this is the best peggy ever looked.

[A.J.]

top 5 Mad Men scene last night when Don and Pegs were fighting. And he compared himself to Jesus.

Hamm was an absolute tour de force last night.

The puke stain on his shirt was a nice touch.

Duck was a mess. I thought it was great that he almost took a shit in Roger's office

is it just me or is Peggy becoming sexy?

Nah, she was always hot. I want to see her hook up with that lesbian chick from Life Magazine.

[grlNIN]

Nah, she was always hot. I want to see her hook up with that lesbian chick from Life Magazine.

Seriously, where is that going already? I was so excited when Peggy was loosening up and went to the underground arthouse thing that got raided then....nothin'.

I was so happy with the episode this past week, she finally stopped being walked on and stood up for herself. She told Don exactly what everyone has been thinking but too hush hush to say. Also, the scene in the bathroom between her and Trudy was really upsetting, i hate what's going on with that whole thing.

[hammersavage]

ninny!

[grlNIN]

I have made an appearance to pontificate about Mad Men and SoA!

[hammersavage]

now get back in the hole!

[Snacks]

Seriously, where is that going already? I was so excited when Peggy was loosening up and went to the underground arthouse thing that got raided then....nothin'.

I was so happy with the episode this past week, she finally stopped being walked on and stood up for herself. She told Don exactly what everyone has been thinking but too hush hush to say. Also, the scene in the bathroom between her and Trudy was really upsetting, i hate what's going on with that whole thing.

why was the bathroom scene "upsetting"?

[Willmore]

Seriously, where is that going already? I was so excited when Peggy was loosening up and went to the underground arthouse thing that got raided then....nothin'.

I was so happy with the episode this past week, she finally stopped being walked on and stood up for herself. She told Don exactly what everyone has been thinking but too hush hush to say. Also, the scene in the bathroom between her and Trudy was really upsetting, i hate what's going on with that whole thing.

Yeah, but as soon as she stood up for herself, Don put her in her right place. She's been a copywriter for what 2-3 years, and she wants credit for the one successful pitch she did out of 50 crappy ones that Don changed to actually work for a commercial. Peggy is a whiny bitch. And what is it with the longing looks at Pete and Trudy. She hides a pregnancy from the biological father, then abandons the baby to the care of an unloving and bitter grandmother, it's her damn fault. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the sex with Pete was consensual, right, she wasn't raped or anything.

[smiler grogan]

"It's addressed to Mr. Draper!" Joan really fucked Don over by giving him that awful old hag as a secretary.

Sally is getting creepier and creepier: cutting her hair, playing with herself, asking the babysitter if she and her father were "doing it".

And Roger reminded me of my grandfather with his anti-Japanese bias.


I like how Don said that Joan Knows exactly what he needs. If Don bangs this secretary he is the ultimate male.

[A.J.]

I like how Don said that Joan Knows exactly what he needs. If Don bangs this secretary he is the ultimate male.

And when he was listening to Roger's tape, apparently his secretary was quite the goer back in the day!

[A.J.]

I have made an appearance to pontificate about Mad Men and SoA!

Stop being a stranger!

[grlNIN]

why was the bathroom scene "upsetting"?

Because Trudy is now showing and was patting Peggy on the back saying that she "still has time". Also, i thought for a moment the remark Peggy had made about having to pee more often was going to ring a bell for Trudy but then Peggy's face after she said it just made me sad.


Yeah, but as soon as she stood up for herself, Don put her in her right place. She's been a copywriter for what 2-3 years, and she wants credit for the one successful pitch she did out of 50 crappy ones that Don changed to actually work for a commercial. Peggy is a whiny bitch. And what is it with the longing looks at Pete and Trudy. She hides a pregnancy from the biological father, then abandons the baby to the care of an unloving and bitter grandmother, it's her damn fault. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the sex with Pete was consensual, right, she wasn't raped or anything.

Nah i don't think so. Peggy stood up for herself and that's that, Don can't undo the fact that she spoke up to him and neither can she, she let her feelings be heard and didn't stifle them any longer. The entire thing with Campbell is based on the fact that it was her first time having sex, it was a one night stand on the night before his wedding and she didn't even know she was pregnant!!! She gave her baby up because she was not emotionally or psychologically capable of caring for it herself, which is a lot of unintentional mothers of that time succumbed to (whether or not this is what their heart wanted was besides the fact). Her being a copywriter for 2-3 years still says a lot about her, given both the time period this show is taking place during, the nature of the business she is in and the fact that she is a woman. Look around, the only other females in the office are secretaries, her being a copywriter and still maintaining the same position over a 2-3 year period says a lot about what she is ultimately capable of.

[KC2OSO]

Another good episode.
Joan was a little harsh with Peggy in the elevator. :blink: Good to see Don getting his shit together. The swimming is a good metaphor. I predict Don hooks up with Mrs. Blankenship by the end of the season. The show makes me want to smoke and drink for some reason...

[Jayw]

Ya they were going for a feel-good episode for sure. Joan and peggy have always had a weird relationship. Glad to see betsy crumbling.

[A.J.]

Don getting the hummer in the back of the cab: "to be continued".

[Willmore]

Another good episode.
Joan was a little harsh with Peggy in the elevator. :blink: Good to see Don getting his shit together. The swimming is a good metaphor. I predict Don hooks up with Mrs. Blankenship by the end of the season. The show makes me want to smoke and drink for some reason...

Can you blame Joan, her hubby is about to get blown to kingdom come in Vietnam.

[grlNIN]

Peggy should have let Joan fire the kid, instead of overstepping the situation like that. Joan's speech was amazing, even though it was a total projection of her own feelings with her husband. Does the girl Don has been dating for 5 months bother anyone else? She is fucking annoying to look at and hear speak-she is another, more terrible version of Betty.

Betty is extraordinarily unconvincing and sad, her petulance won't be subverted for long.

[Snacks]

Peggy should have let Joan fire the kid, instead of overstepping the situation like that. Joan's speech was amazing, even though it was a total projection of her own feelings with her husband. Does the girl Don has been dating for 5 months bother anyone else? She is fucking annoying to look at and hear speak-she is another, more terrible version of Betty.

Betty is extraordinarily unconvincing and sad, her petulance won't be subverted for long.

sorry but the girl Don is dating is beautiful. I loved her on True Blood last season as well!

[A.J.]

Does the girl Don has been dating for 5 months bother anyone else?

Only that she's a younger Betty.

But let's see how things pan out with Faye Miller....

[KC2OSO]

Does the girl Don has been dating for 5 months bother anyone else? Very much so. I was hoping Betty would start something in the restaurant but she just sat there and got hammered. Henry is a creep who mows the lawn in slacks. Yech.


Betty is extraordinarily unconvincing and sad, her petulance won't be subverted for long.
Tick...tick...

[grlNIN]

sorry but the girl Don is dating is beautiful. I loved her on True Blood last season as well!

Maybe she would be cute if her voice wasn't so childlike and chubby sounding. I also get this extremely creepy feeling when she's talking to him with all these "rules" like she is already married to him or something.

[Willmore]

Maybe she would be cute if her voice wasn't so childlike and chubby sounding. I also get this extremely creepy feeling when she's talking to him with all these "rules" like she is already married to him or something.

Fez?

[A.J.]

Mrs. Blankenship's death and the removal of her body might have been the funniest moment ever on this show.

[KC2OSO]

Mrs. Blankenship's death and the removal of her body might have been the funniest moment ever on this show.
True. Poor Mrs. Blankenship. The desk blotter was put to good use at least. She was an astronaut. :dry:

[Willmore]

True. Poor Mrs. Blankenship. The desk blotter was put to good use at least. She was an astronaut. :dry:

The bitch had it coming.

[Snacks]

True. Poor Mrs. Blankenship. The desk blotter was put to good use at least. She was an astronaut. :dry:

that was a great and well written little line in this episode.

[Willmore]

that was a great and well written little line in this episode.

No it wasn't. She was a fucking secretary. An unappreciated, annoying secretary. She just lived in a time when being born in a barn didn't make you a farmer's wife by default, so she became a secretary instead.

[Kevin]

I thought i was in the Ronfez listening thread and was like wtf are all you guys talking about?

[Snacks]

No it wasn't. She was a fucking secretary. An unappreciated, annoying secretary. She just lived in a time when being born in a barn didn't make you a farmer's wife by default, so she became a secretary instead.

I disagree because it was said by someone who loved her and had a different relationship with her. He wanted her to sound like her life had meaning and she didnt die unappreciated or loved!

[Willmore]

I disagree because it was said by someone who loved her and had a different relationship with her. He wanted her to sound like her life had meaning and she didnt die unappreciated or loved!

The person that couldn't come up with an obituary? Yup, there was love there.

The way I read it is that Cooper was seeing his own mortality in the death of his onetime secretary, so he was overreacting to it and was showing that emotion, but couldn't back it up with anything meaningful from his history with that woman, outside of her always being there as the secretary. The best he could do was the astronaut tag line - which is all it was - a marketing slogan for the death of a woman he cared about as much about as the hundreds of clients who came and went.

[Chimee]

I enjoyed the scene from a few episodes ago where something was happening at the receptionist's desk and Cooper was just in the background eating a sandwich.

[PapaBear]

No it wasn't. She was a fucking secretary.
EXECUTIVE Secretary!

[grlNIN]

Can we please talk about Layne getting knocked the fuck out?

[hammersavage]

don't talk back to papa.


and joan didn't get an abortion

[grlNIN]

don't talk back to papa.


and joan didn't get an abortion

IS IT BECAUSE SHE'S A NEGRO?

Of course she didn't she needs to get over herself and just get with Roger.

See how Campbell went from being all "i cant do this without youuuu" to pulling that line about going from cocktails to 4 million dollar accounts? He's going to have his day so soon.

[Fallon]

don't talk back to papa.


and joan didn't get an abortion

Maybe Layne's dad can whack her in the belly.

[A.J.]

Can we please talk about Layne getting knocked the fuck out?

Yes..........Ma'am.

Watching Don go from looking like he FINALLY got his shit together (especially scoring Beatles tix for Sally) to having a complete meltdown/panic attack in a matter of minutes was stunning.

[burrben]

this season has been amazing

[KC2OSO]

(especially scoring Beatles tix for Sally)

Don will fuck this Beatles thing up somehow....maybe not.

[Chimee]

I think with the ending of him getting the tickets was meant to show that, even though everything else is falling apart, that one thing ended up working for him.

[Willmore]

I think with the ending of him getting the tickets was meant to show that, even though everything else is falling apart, that one thing ended up working for him.

I got a different vibe.

[A.J.]

Don, Don, Don....please stop fucking your secretaries. Something bad is bound to happen.

[Snacks]

Don, Don, Don....please stop fucking your secretaries. Something bad is bound to happen.

I love when Don fucks every girl on the show. I feel like Im living vicariously through him! For some reason I find his current secretary extremely sexy. She has fucked up teeth but I have noticed her since she was the waiting room secretary/receptionist.

This has been a fantastic season. Much more character development and the writing has been amazing.

[Chimee]

I get the feeling that this season is going to end with Cooper dying.

[grlNIN]

Ughhh, Don is verging on really fucking boring. His inability to be anything but a wasteful disaster has stopped being entertaining.

I think Sterling is going to kill himself, he basically has nothing at this point.

[Recyclerz]

Ughhh, Don is verging on really fucking boring. His inability to be anything but a wasteful disaster has stopped being entertaining.

I think Sterling is going to kill himself, he basically has nothing at this point.

Agree on the first point. What I liked about most of this season was the writers taking Draper down a peg or two. This last secretary seems like they're going to the poonani well once too often but they've got two more episodes to make it all fit.

Not sure about the Sterling prediction though. I'll put $2 on the swerve that his dopey book gets misinterpreted as wisdom and becomes a big hit. I think the zeitgeist of the show includes the fact that rich kids usually do alright for themselves, usually in spite of themselves.

[Willmore]

Don, Don, Don....please stop fucking your secretaries. Something bad is bound to happen.

Google image search Jessica Pare with the safesearch off.

She had a nude scene in hot tub time machine.

[PapaBear]

I hate that the idea sounds a lot like Jerry Maguire's "mission statement", but I love how it's playing out. BRAVO!

[A.J.]

I hate that the idea sounds a lot like Jerry Maguire's "mission statement"

I thought the exact same thing.

And welcome back creepy Glenn!

[grlNIN]

Aw, Glenn sprinting away from Betty and then being exhausted, looks like peewee isn't paying off for him yet.

Betty and the child psychologist...biggest laugh of the episode.

[Willmore]

Aw, Glenn sprinting away from Betty and then being exhausted, looks like peewee isn't paying off for him yet.

Betty and the child psychologist...biggest laugh of the episode.

And talk about the worst acting ever. Being the creator/showrunner's son really pays off.

[A.J.]

Aw, Glenn sprinting away from Betty and then being exhausted, looks like peewee isn't paying off for him yet.

Not when you're smoking at the same time.

[grlNIN]

Not when you're smoking at the same time.

True, i forgot he was smoking-what a twerp.

[A.J.]

I seriously hope Bert Cooper didn't resign for good. I'm going to miss that shoeless Nippophile.

[grlNIN]

That was really underwhelming.

[KC2OSO]

That was really underwhelming.
Yeah. What a strange who cares ending. Don gets engaged to Freddie Mercury? WTF?

[hammersavage]

the worst moment of the series?

woulda made some sense if he married faye, not megan though. I like the rest of the episode but that was ridiculous.

[grlNIN]

I was glad Peggy & Joan got to finally have a moment on the same level but i don't know if i liked it at this expense. Also, Peggy looked crushed when she spoke to Don.

I really can't say what i feel about this episode, i really thought it was a dream sequence when he was sitting on the bed in his apartment and Megan was sleeping. THIS MAKES NO SENSE.

[Recyclerz]

I think you guys are being a little hard on the show. One of the narrative arcs of this season was how would Don's personal life develop post-divorce. They started him down the "wild dog" path, humping everyone (and thing) he crossed paths with. Then he was presented with a choice: an incredibly hot woman who was his peer in the business world, an equal who would be more of a "challenge" to him but also showed she was willing to sacrifice her professional reputation to support his career (leaking the Heinz info) or an incredibly hot younger woman who would be slotted into a supporting, adoring wife role albeit with some flashes of smarts and good maternal instincts (keeping the kids under control with charm and the "It's only a milkshake" scene).

A more evolved Don Draper would have chosen Faye but he instead went with the new (& presumably improved) version of Betty, because 1. It's still all about Don & his ego and 2. It's still the mid-1960's and the feminist world view has not made it into the American zeitgeist, although we see the sprouts of it through Peggy & Joan.

I think the very last scene is a wink to the audience that we know that Don made the wrong choice even if he doesn't (yet).

[A.J.]

Also, Peggy looked crushed when she spoke to Don.

Betty too when Don told her he was engaged.

I liked the part when Don's son asked "Who's Dick?" and he says "it's my nickname".

Yep....I can think of several people who would agree.

[grlNIN]

Thinking about the way he proposed to Megan is making me lol. She was all perfect and unconscious in the bed and then the whole "I feel like myself when I'm with you"...Don, least of all knows who he really is, he's an image, a vapor.

At this point I feel that I'm watching it more for Peggy,Joan and Pete than anything else.

[Willmore]

The show is getting way too soapy for me. It has always had that element to it, but there were other things that dominated the show that were more enjoyable, now it's Draper being a pussy 24/7.

[Snacks]

I thought it was a fantastic episode. I was shocked when he got engaged but after he got the ring from the niece i had a feeling something was going to happen with that.

the ending with Bets waiting around for him was great. You could tell she wanted to get a little Don Draper in her 1 last time or maybe she was trying to get him back because she realized life with the new guy isnt that great either? I wonder if Don in the bed at the end wide awake was meant to show him now thinking about Betty or regretting that he got engaged?

[A.J.]

I thought one of the best parts was Creepy Glen telling off Betty. She proved her cuntiness seconds later when she fired Carla.

[Willmore]

I thought one of the best parts was Creepy Glen telling off Betty. She proved her cuntiness seconds later when she fired Carla.

Even with Betty's cuntiness, I am so with her on Glen. The kid has always been a fucking creep. Weiner, along with Apatow, fuck up their product by featuring their talentless spawn.

[boonanas]

I enjoyed this season. The show consistently gets better. But I hate Don Draper now that he chose his secretary over Dr. Miller. I guess this is how women feel when they watch Soap Operas. Roger Sterling sucks.

[Chimee]

For a good part of the California trip I was convinced that one of the kids was going to die.

[Willmore]

For a good part of the California trip I was convinced that one of the kids was going to die.

If I wrote for the show, I'd have Sally do a triple-murder-suicide. Take out all three kids at once, plus kill Glen.

[hammersavage]

I enjoyed this season. The show consistently gets better. But I hate Don Draper now that he chose his secretary over Dr. Miller. I guess this is how women feel when they watch Soap Operas. Roger Sterling sucks.

what the hell?

[boonanas]

what the hell?

That's right. He turned into a little girl begging for Joan and begging for 30 days from Lucky Strike. And also turning away that Japanese company with his racial slurs. I'M LOOKING OUT FOR WHAT'S BEST FOR STERLING COOPER DRAPER PRYCE, okay?

[grlNIN]

I would bang Roger Sterling so hard, he's got nothing on Don Draper.

[A.J.]

Roger Sterling sucks.

As a person and an employee, yes. But he's had some great one-liners this year.

"Did we get cancer?"

[KC2OSO]

I would bang Roger Sterling so hard, he's got nothing on Don Draper.
Roger probably smells like Hai Karate. He does look like a goer though. Like AJ said, his one-liners have been great all along. Everyone in this show is a douche in their own way. After letting it sink in for a day, the ending wasn't that bad. It is a soapy show and they do let themes and ideas fall off the table from week to week but all in all a good close to the season.

When is Nurse Jackie coming around again?

[Snacks]

After a very long break between seasons, Mad Men is back tonight with a 2 hour Season 5 premiere eps!

[cougarjake13]

Lots of Christina Hendricks titties ?

[Snacks]

Im more of a Betty Draper fan!

[danner1515]

Due to my cable-free ways, I made the plunge and bought the season pass for this on iTunes. I'll see how this goes. I'm planning on doing the same thing when Louie comes back.

[Snacks]

Due to my cable-free ways, I made the plunge and bought the season pass for this on iTunes. I'll see how this goes. I'm planning on doing the same thing when Louie comes back.

what does itunes charge? i thought it was like .99 cents or $1.99 an eps, how much is the season pass?

[danner1515]

what does itunes charge? i thought it was like .99 cents or $1.99 an eps, how much is the season pass?
It's $35 for the whole season in HD (basically what a DVD set would cost) and a few bucks cheaper for standard def. it's probably not the cheapest option, but it's less than what a month of cable would cost me.

[Snacks]

It's $35 for the whole season in HD (basically what a DVD set would cost) and a few bucks cheaper for standard def. it's probably not the cheapest option, but it's less than what a month of cable would cost me.

yeah that seems pretty expensive. if you were to get basic direct tv for $29 a month wouldnt you get all those basic cable channels like usa, mtv, a & e, etc?

[cougarjake13]

It's $35 for the whole season in HD (basically what a DVD set would cost) and a few bucks cheaper for standard def. it's probably not the cheapest option, but it's less than what a month of cable would cost me.


Never thought of it that way

Not a bad idea

[IamFogHat]

Let's do this shit.

[Enabler]

Zubby zubby zooooo (masturbates furiously)

[KnoxHarrington]

Never thought of it that way

Not a bad idea

If you're cool with SD, you can get the season pass for $22.99. The $35 is the cost for HD.

So it's not that you're comparing the price to a standard DVD, you compare it to the price of the Blu-Ray set. Which makes it an even better deal.

Don't have it yet, but I'm guessing it won't be around until it airs on the West Coast as well, so probably no sooner than 1 AM EDT.

[danner1515]

yeah that seems pretty expensive. if you were to get basic direct tv for $29 a month wouldnt you get all those basic cable channels like usa, mtv, a & e, etc?
It is a little expensive, but I get to keep the episodes, so I'll basically have a digital copy of the season 5 Blu-ray by the end of the season, minus bonus features. If I were to reactivate my cable just to watch Mad Men (I don't watch a lot of TV), I'd have to pay that extra $30 for each month the season runs, which would probably wind up costing me something closer to $90 in the end.

[PapaBear]

The pulsating boobage crying scene was gratuitous and comical, but I'm not complaining.

[IamFogHat]

I'm so glad that cunt is fat in this season.

[IamFogHat]

I'm so glad that cunt is fat in this season.

Oh good she might have cancer, disregard my last post.

[A.J.]

I'm so glad that cunt is fat in this season.

It reminded me of when Peggy got fat after she was unknowingly knocked up by Pete.

[El Mudo]

Line of the night goes to Spencer Hall on twitter (@edsbs) about two minutes into the show:

WHOA FAT BETTY BAM A LAM WHOAAA FAT BETTY BAM A LAM

[Snacks]

This show is great. I cant believe they made Betty a fatty but it doesn't seem like its her in a fat suit. Was she still pregnant during filming? I wonder is it was even her because her hands looked like big fat man hands. Could they have used someone else as the body and cgi her head? What exactly does her husband do for the state? Back in the 60's govt employees didn't make huge livings yet he lives in a mansion, hell it looks like a English castle fro the outside.

I liked that they went to white castles after the concert that was an unexpected yet nice touch.

Im so happy this show is back and look forward to see where they take it.

[Misteriosa]

from what ive read, they used a fat suit on her while she was pregnant.

[KnoxHarrington]

This show is great. I cant believe they made Betty a fatty but it doesn't seem like its her in a fat suit. Was she still pregnant during filming? I wonder is it was even her because her hands looked like big fat man hands. Could they have used someone else as the body and cgi her head? What exactly does her husband do for the state? Back in the 60's govt employees didn't make huge livings yet he lives in a mansion, hell it looks like a English castle fro the outside.

I liked that they went to white castles after the concert that was an unexpected yet nice touch.

Im so happy this show is back and look forward to see where they take it.

They've said in the show that her new husband is one of Nelson Rockefeller's closest advisors. He's not exactly on the merit system.

[Kevin]

Yea a lot of it looked that way.

Sterling had me rolling with the its darkest before the dawn line.

Such a racist time

And I think Betty's husband comes from old money, that's the only thing I can come up with.

Most if their stuff is pretty accurate

[A.J.]

Fat Betty reminded me of fat Gwyneth Paltrow in "Shalllow Hal"

[Fallon]

I hate Betty with a passion.

Have another sundae fatty!!

[Kevin]

I hate Betty with a passion.

Have another sundae fatty!!

I'm gunna be nice beacuse its Easter....


You are very lucky...

[Fallon]

Heeeeeeeeeeey!

Peggy and Sterling's scene in her office was hilarious.

He's such a douche.

[PapaBear]

Heeeeeeeeeeey!

Peggy and Sterling's scene in her office was hilarious.

He's such a douche.
Just saw it. LOVED IT!

[Snacks]

Heeeeeeeeeeey!

Peggy and Sterling's scene in her office was hilarious.

He's such a douche.

great scene!

[A.J.]

The scene with Roger and Peggy was great.

But the scene where Joan dumped her loser husband was awesome. She totally emasculated him.

[Enabler]

Is there anything more adorable than sweet little Sally Beth? If her bitch grandmother got her hooked on barbiturates I'll be inconsolable.

Also great to see Joan finally send the date rapist packing. Let Sterling raise that baby. Its his anyway right?

[KnoxHarrington]

The whole thing of that one whore following Don around, finally ending up in him strangling her, was pretty fucked up. I know it was all Don's delirious fever dream, but that was much darker than this show ever goes, usually

But, then again, since the Richard Speck mass murder formed the thematic backdrop to this episode, it was gonna be pretty damn dark anyway. That final shot of Sally hiding under the couch from her awful bitch of a grandmother and her pretty much equally awful mother and stepfather, like the sole survivor of Speck's rampage, was heartbreaking. And what the fuck is with that new kid, Ginsberg? "Hey, let's play on women's rape fantasies to sell shoes!" He's really fucked up.

All in all, one of the darkest episodes of this show they've ever done.

[IamFogHat]

I'm only halfway through this episode, but I think the lesson here is in the 60's you could cheat on a woman as hot as Alison Brie with a high school girl. What a time to be alive.

[IamFogHat]

Alex Mac is back y'all.

[Kevin]

Doesnt that guy that was talking about Dons wife look EXACTLY like Chris Parnells character in Archer?

[IamFogHat]

He's gonna have the p***y stank all over him

[KnoxHarrington]

Quite a sudden switch this week. The previous episodes of this season seemed to show Pete in ascendancy, eclipsing Roger. He'd taken the credit for getting Mohawk Airlines back, and he seemed to be gaining more and more power at SCDP. But this episode seemed to show him completely falling apart.

I thought it was fucking hilarious that when it became apparent that Lane and Pete were going to fight, not only did Don, Roger, and Bert not do anything to stop it, they seemed to want to see it as much as anyone. I'm shocked Roger didn't start taking bets. My money would have been on Lane.

[Kevin]

What a whacked out episode.

Roger tripping balls was funny shit.

He really is the best.

[Snacks]

It was like they were selling LCD as the greatest thing in the world. The way they Roger and his wife break it off was perfect, at least for Roger it was!

Out of all the women Don has been with it Amazes me that this is the one he is so crazy over. I hate how much they have changed Don, its like the pussification of Don similar to what happened on Entourage. Sad!

[Kevin]

It was like they were selling LCD as the greatest thing in the world. The way they Roger and his wife break it off was perfect, at least for Roger it was!

Out of all the women Don has been with it Amazes me that this is the one he is so crazy over. I hate how much they have changed Don, its like the pussification of Don similar to what happened on Entourage. Sad!

I'm sorry I don't even find her that hot.

Her face is ok and she has a decent rack.

Maybe its the clothes they wear but she just does not do it for me.

I think Rogers now ex wife is 10 times hotter.

Don has been with far more attractive and interesting women during the show.

[Snacks]

I'm sorry I don't even find her that hot.

Her face is ok and she has a decent rack.

Maybe its the clothes they wear but she just does not do it for me.

I think Rogers now ex wife is 10 times hotter.

Don has been with far more attractive and interesting women during the show.

Agreed! I like the girl he killed in his dream. She was probably the oldest woman Don has ever been with on the show but she looked great. My favorite is probably the school teacher that lived in the apt above a garage! I also love Betty but she was too bitchy for Don!

[Jayw]

With the exception of Don becoming a lameo that doesn't give a shit about the biz anymore, I am liking the way the season is coming along.

Roger makes me break out laughing at least once a night. I fucking loved that announcement at the end to Don.

I thought the stranger handjob scene was weird as shit, then they decide on an acid trip.... With roger though it was great.

Definitely best show going for me with thrones a distant second.

[Enabler]

Cool episode. Don thinks Zuby Zoo is dead, Sterling drops acid and Peggy jerks off a stranger. But they all reach the epiphany they needed about their relationships. They all realize the truth and become more honest. And then Cooper drops the ultimate truth bomb on Draper at the end. Kind of brilliant.

Any episode without Betty or Sally immediately loses a few points with me, but this one is prob one of the better "stand alone" episodes in the series.

[A.J.]

The scene with Roger dropping acid while the Beach Boys' "I Just Wasn't Made for These Times" is playing on a reel-to-reel in the background is one of those details that makes this such a great show.

[A.J.]

I thought it was fucking hilarious that when it became apparent that Lane and Pete were going to fight, not only did Don, Roger, and Bert not do anything to stop it, they seemed to want to see it as much as anyone. I'm shocked Roger didn't start taking bets. My money would have been on Lane.

And of course Roger cracked me up: "I know I should be the voice of reason but is there anyone who DOESN'T want to see this?"

I also loved Lane's line just before the fight started: "His wife found chewing gum on his pubis!" and then all of them started laughing.

[A.J.]

The scene with Roger dropping acid while the Beach Boys' "I Just Wasn't Made for These Times" is playing on a reel-to-reel in the background is one of those details that makes this such a great show.

Another one I had missed was when they were at Pete and Trudy's house for dinner and Ken Cosgrove's wife mentioned the 1966 Texas university shootings. She called the shooter "Charles Whitmore" and without missing a beat, Don corrected her and said "Whitman".

[A.J.]

Poor little Sally: walking in on your father's mother-in-law blowing Roger Sterling.

And creepy neighbor Glenn is back!

[Snacks]

Poor little Sally: walking in on your father's mother-in-law blowing Roger Sterling.

And creepy neighbor Glenn is back!

Every time Sally is on screen I wait for something bad to happen. They have made it so she is always in the middle of something!

[KnoxHarrington]

Every time Sally is on screen I wait for something bad to happen. They have made it so she is always in the middle of something!

The way that episode ended was kind of a bummer. They'd been setting it up as Don really getting some recognition, then suddenly Sally sees Megan's whore mother giving Roger a beej, that one dude tells Don that there's no way in hell any of these bigwigs would actually give him any business after that letter (which won him the award he's there to receive) ripping Lucky Strike, and Megan's asshole Commie dad tells her, basically, she's a whore too. It's like everything good set up just got tossed away.

And then the closing...what the fuck was up with creepy ass Glenn apparently naked in a parka? Fucking creepy...

[Kevin]

The way that episode ended was kind of a bummer. They'd been setting it up as Don really getting some recognition, then suddenly Sally sees Megan's whore mother giving Roger a beej, that one dude tells Don that there's no way in hell any of these bigwigs would actually give him any business after that letter (which won him the award he's there to receive) ripping Lucky Strike, and Megan's asshole Commie dad tells her, basically, she's a whore too. It's like everything good set up just got tossed away.

And then the closing...what the fuck was up with creepy ass Glenn apparently naked in a parka? Fucking creepy...

What does sally even see in that fucking creep.

He is creepy looking and sounding.

[IamFogHat]

What does sally even see in that fucking creep.

He is creepy looking and sounding.

Young people are stupider than a bag of things that are stupid.

[Snacks]

"How's the City?"

"Dirty!"

Great ending!

[KC2OSO]

The scene with Roger dropping acid while the Beach Boys' "I Just Wasn't Made for These Times" is playing on a reel-to-reel in the background is one of those details that makes this such a great show.
Roger's cigarette disappearing instantly as he was smoking it was funny as hell. There was this odd little sound that played as it happened. The whole thing was really well done.

[KnoxHarrington]

Roger's cigarette disappearing instantly as he was smoking it was funny as hell. There was this odd little sound that played as it happened. The whole thing was really well done.


I like that they didn't actually see the hallucination of the 1919 World Series that Roger was having. No way that wouldn't have looked cheesy as hell.

[A.J.]

Roger's cigarette disappearing instantly as he was smoking it was funny as hell. There was this odd little sound that played as it happened. The whole thing was really well done.

Yeah and then him looking into the mirror with the black and white hair was funny too.

[KnoxHarrington]

Yeah and then him looking into the mirror with the black and white hair was funny too.

You know, I think they did a fairly good job capturing what an acid trip is really like. They usually show all kinds of trippy colors and play cheesy psychedelic rock (usually something like "White Rabbit") and it looks like something Peter Maxx threw up. I've only done it once or twice myself, but it's usually far more subtle than that. I remember there being periods where everything looked normal, and then something like what Roger saw would happen: a picture would move, I'd hear a song that couldn't be playing anywhere, etc.

I'm not sure I'd ever do it again, but that episode made me think about it a little bit, at least. That may have been one of the most blatantly pro-drugs things I've ever seen on mainstream TV. And it's still having effects on the show: Roger really does seem happier and mroe sure of himself since it happened.

[Fallon]

I'm sorry I don't even find her that hot.

Her face is ok and she has a decent rack.

Maybe its the clothes they wear but she just does not do it for me.

I think Rogers now ex wife is 10 times hotter.


Don has been with far more attractive and interesting women during the show.

Her teeth are weird, but I like her.

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[A.J.]

Her teeth are weird, but I like her.

Yeah, she has a bit of an overbite/buck tooth thing going on but she's still pretty hot.

[Kevin]

Her teeth are weird, but I like her.

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Yeah, she has a bit of an overbite/buck tooth thing going on but she's still pretty hot.

I'm not saying i'd throw her out of my bed or anything but I do not think she is that hot.

I think Don has been really marginalized this season, even at his job, he used tobe this super exec that can kick ass and get shit done.

Now he goes into meetings and just sits there and does nothing.

He showed some of that in that dinner pitch but overall he as been very weak this season.

Roger has replaced him as the best character on the show this year.

Roger is such a douche that he is awesome.

[A.J.]

Roger always brings the funny.

[Chimee]

I think Don has been really marginalized this season, even at his job, he used tobe this super exec that can kick ass and get shit done.

Now he goes into meetings and just sits there and does nothing.

He showed some of that in that dinner pitch but overall he as been very weak this season.

I'm starting to think that the show is becoming about Don losing his touch for the business.

[zildjian361]

I'm into Magic City on Starz some posters say its kinda the same.:smoke::drunk:

[IamFogHat]

I wish I was fabulous.

[IamFogHat]

Is that that girl that was on that terrible show with the girl and the mom?

[Dan 'Hampton]

And fat mr belding.