View Full Version : 24: Redemption & Season 7
johnniehardrock
02-16-2009, 06:29 PM
i love that Bill calls Aaron to get the first daughter
King Imp
02-16-2009, 08:44 PM
Damn, they threw the old curveball at us! I thought it was going to be way too obvious that he was the mole, thus he couldn't be.
Kudos to the writers for training us over 6 seasons to look one way and expect elsewhere when the obvious was right under our nose.
Furtherman
02-17-2009, 06:01 AM
I knew that bitch was a bad guy.
No big surprise there.
i love that Bill calls Aaron to get the first daughter
Big surprise there!
Anyone else start clapping for Agent Aaron Pierce?! Yea, I did too.
i love that Bill calls Aaron to get the first daughter
LOVE the idea of the special A-Team Bill Buchanan has assembled - Chloe, Tony, Jack and now Aaron! AND just in case we need him...Morris!!
Aggie
02-17-2009, 09:13 AM
My freaking dvr decided to not record 24 last night. Is it on hulu?
Last week it recorded like 24 hours of Fox and it deleted all my other saved programs. THIS BLOWS! I just might finally get DirectTV but don't know if I'm ready for the dish.
ChrisTheCop
02-17-2009, 09:19 AM
My freaking dvr decided to not record 24 last night. Is it on hulu?
Last week it recorded like 24 hours of Fox and it deleted all my other saved programs. THIS BLOWS! I just might finally get DirectTV but don't know if I'm ready for the dish.
It is indeed on Hulu. Front page of the tv section actually.
Also Itunes of course.
Whats the excuse for a dvr not recording a requested program??
I'm a 1st gen tivo guy with no problems at all.
Aggie
02-17-2009, 09:25 AM
It is indeed on Hulu. Front page of the tv section actually.
Also Itunes of course.
Whats the excuse for a dvr not recording a requested program??
I'm a 1st gen tivo guy with no problems at all.
Well, I'm a Tivo girl too but I had to move it to my bedroom when we got the 50in HD. I didn't want to buy a whole new HD Tivo so I have a Time Warner DVR. In general it works fine but I've had some issues with it missing a recording and most recently it thinking it was recording 24 but it just ended up taping the Fox channel for hours on end until it bumped out my saved programs.
No big surprise there.
Big surprise there!
Anyone else start clapping for Agent Aaron Pierce?! Yea, I did too.
I loved seeing Aaron was the guy they trust.
as for the mole, yeah, as Imp said i was all for him, but when Garafolo went all nuts I doubted myself.
Ive like this season, although I am tired of "you want to be just like Jack Bauer"?
stinkbud
02-17-2009, 02:20 PM
In hindsight, Garafalo wouldn't have tried so hard to save the pesticide plant supervisor if she was bad.
Tenbatsuzen
02-17-2009, 06:14 PM
Larry is gonna turn into this season's George Mason. You can't be that much of an ass and not pay for it.
BTW, Renee Walker slaps Jack Bauer 3 times. I think she'll pull back a stump the fourth time.
In hindsight, Garafalo wouldn't have tried so hard to save the pesticide plant supervisor if she was bad.
very true; which is why that threw me for a few moments.
King Imp
02-18-2009, 05:29 AM
as for the mole, yeah, as Imp said i was all for him, but when Garafolo went all nuts I doubted myself.
Personally, I thought the FBI mole was going to be that blonde that Sean was cheating with. She was the only other semi-known face in that office and I figured it being Sean or Garafolo was too obvious.
TonyStark
02-18-2009, 08:17 AM
Personally, I thought the FBI mole was going to be that blonde that Sean was cheating with. She was the only other semi-known face in that office and I figured it being Sean or Garafolo was too obvious.I was of the same thinking myself. I don't really understand Sean's logic for being bad though, especially since his wife was flying?:dry:
Doctor Manhattan
02-18-2009, 10:44 AM
Personally, I thought the FBI mole was going to be that blonde that Sean was cheating with. She was the only other semi-known face in that office and I figured it being Sean or Garafolo was too obvious.
that blond woman was on another TV show with a female US president: Commander in Chief. She can't get enough of the lady presidents.
CruelCircus
02-18-2009, 01:22 PM
that blond woman was on another TV show with a female US president: Commander in Chief. She can't get enough of the lady presidents.
She was also "Larry Moss's" girlfriend on Once and Again.
King Imp
02-18-2009, 08:19 PM
that blond woman was on another TV show with a female US president: Commander in Chief. She can't get enough of the lady presidents.
Thank you. Like I said, she was a semi-known face, but I could not place it for the life of me.
King Imp
02-24-2009, 08:32 AM
Well, at least for those of us who picked the blonde as being the mole, we were actually partially right. :clap:
How many fucking times do they have to hand off sensitive material when they know there is a threat where said material is being sent? They know there is a mole, but no one bothers to think they may be listening or watching what's going on?
I love how Dubaku, and now next week Juma, are able to get into this country without anyone who isn't corrupt knowing about it. It's not like they are unknown and are probably on a watch list.
Is it just me or does it kinda feel anti-climactic thinking that Jon Voight is most likely the top bad guy this season? That's the way he came off in that Redemption movie and I'm sure he has to show up this season eventually.
instrument
02-24-2009, 08:55 AM
Wow, red head is on attack of the show.....younger and bustier then I thought
Arienette
02-24-2009, 09:19 AM
i was really surprised that sean was involved, since they made him seem sketchy and suspicious from the beginning. usually, the bad guy is the one you would never suspect as the bad guy, and that's what makes it so shocking. maybe after this many seasons, they figured they'd throw us off by actually making the guy who seemed like a bad guy an actual bad guy.
my head hurts.
Fallon
02-24-2009, 09:49 AM
Wow, red head is on attack of the show.....younger and bustier then I thought
Sexy.
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How many fucking times do they have to hand off sensitive material when they know there is a threat where said material is being sent? They know there is a mole, but no one bothers to think they may be listening or watching what's going on?
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that annoyed me as well; esp that they trusted shawn even after finding him in the main server room
extracheese
02-24-2009, 06:58 PM
As someone already mentioned - its ridiculous that when the mainframe was compromised, which is the highest breach possible, they would just take Seans story at face value. He would be given a lie detector test, forensic exams on the gun, room etc - they would see his DNA on her lips after an autopsy (he kissed her before he shot her).
Also - when the decoy's car was missled into smithereens - there seemed to be 10 bad guys in the area. Why didn't they call in an assault instantly?? They just ignored that incident like it never happened. At that point, they played their last card and exposed themselves, they should have immediately swarmed in with military to capture Dubakus militia.
west milly Tom
03-02-2009, 04:07 PM
I missed last week. Which one just got killed in the hospital.
IamFogHat
03-02-2009, 04:10 PM
BTW, DC is a much better setting for this show in that you can realistically get all over the place in the time frames they set up unlike LA which never makes sense each season.
west milly Tom
03-02-2009, 04:12 PM
Red is really pissing me off.
west milly Tom
03-02-2009, 04:13 PM
No! Bill can't be a bad guy!
west milly Tom
03-02-2009, 04:15 PM
Choke hold FTW!
johnniehardrock
03-02-2009, 04:59 PM
It is all so good untill we got to the african scuba divers..................
Contra
03-02-2009, 05:10 PM
Beats african bobsleders
extracheese
03-02-2009, 05:15 PM
7 seasons of watching and this is the most insane leap of realism so far!
To assume the viewers would believe that a militia can sneak into the white house
and waltz around undiscovered is just laughable.
Before you start arguing with me- how is this different than Osama Bin Laden sitting in the oval office with 10 soldiers waving guns at the President..and no one knowing!
No! Bill can't be a bad guy!
of course not.
yes, this episode has a lot of unbelievability.
bit its stiff fun nonsense.
ChrisTheCop
03-02-2009, 10:19 PM
Of course it couldnt happen!
If you wanna watch stuff that could happen, watch the news!
This is fictional drama. And frankly, I was on the edge of my seat tonight.
Of course, I was disappointed when Bill didnt die; they had just killed a dozen people that did nothing, but they catch a guy who actively disturbed their plans, and they let him live. As he was running around with that presidential lojak, I was sure he'd run into gunfire.
Also, they tried to make it look like the VP was a douchebag for not ordering a rush, but if he had, by the time they got in, the prez wudda been out of that bunker and wouldve been killed. So he was right.
King Imp
03-02-2009, 10:21 PM
Speaking of unbelievable stuff, like I said earlier I find it extremely stupid that Juma could even get into this country unnoticed, but I digress. The whole White House thing was a whole new level of stupidity.
Based on Jack's reaction in the previews for next week, someone bites the bullet and unfortunately I think it's gonna be Bill.
Doctor Manhattan
03-03-2009, 05:09 PM
I liked how Bauer "Han Solo-ed" that phone when his conversation with the President wasn't going his way.
scottinnj
03-03-2009, 05:12 PM
Before you start arguing with me- how is this different than Osama Bin Laden sitting in the oval office with 10 soldiers waving guns at the President..and no one knowing!
Who says that isn't happening right now? Remember, President Obama said he wanted to sit down across the table from our enemies....
take that theory and smoke it in a bong, enemies of freedom!
scottinnj
03-03-2009, 05:14 PM
I liked how Bauer "Han Solo-ed" that phone when his conversation with the President wasn't going his way.
it was a boring conversation anyway...........
CHLOE WE'RE GONNA HAVE COMPANY!
Furtherman
03-09-2009, 10:33 AM
Choke hold FTW!
Jack's new nickname should be "Don't Fight It".
EliSnow
03-09-2009, 11:26 AM
Speaking of unbelievable stuff, like I said earlier I find it extremely stupid that Juma could even get into this country unnoticed, but I digress. The whole White House thing was a whole new level of stupidity.
Based on Jack's reaction in the previews for next week, someone bites the bullet and unfortunately I think it's gonna be Bill.
It better not be the President.
Seriously, the last three elected Presidents on 24 were either killed or so seriously injured, they could not continue their duties. Enough already.
Furtherman
03-10-2009, 08:14 AM
....and Bill goes out in a blaze of glory. He'll be missed.
Good thing Aaron is OK!
ChrisTheCop
03-10-2009, 08:38 AM
....and Bill goes out in a blaze of glory. He'll be missed.
Good thing Aaron is OK!
I expected Jack to shoot Bill in the head just to make sure.
"I've had friends die in front of me before and come back years later--alive! I will NOT have another zombie friend!"
But yeah, great death scene.
And whats up with Aaron and the first daughter?
If it wasnt for the age difference, I'd think the writers were setting up a romance angle.
Furtherman
03-10-2009, 08:41 AM
And whats up with Aaron and the first daughter?
If it wasnt for the age difference, I'd think the writers were setting up a romance angle.
That would be.... creepy. But, it would be great if they could bring him back into the storyline on a more permanent basis. Not that romance though!
Fallon
03-10-2009, 09:53 AM
And whats up with Aaron and the first daughter?
If it wasnt for the age difference, I'd think the writers were setting up a romance angle.
She went zero to cunt real fast later in the episode.
The siege on the White House episodes has kind of lost me - I'm thinking of throwing in the towel - I'm just not giving a shit.
....and Bill goes out in a blaze of glory. He'll be missed.
Good thing Aaron is OK!
I love seeing Aaron, but I'm getting quite annoyed at Moss.
we get it, you don't like Jack.
King Imp
03-13-2009, 09:24 PM
You know what does get quite annoying?
Jack has gotten the job done and saved this country time after time, yet people still treat him like he's the criminal and never trust that he might know what he's doing. Ungrateful bastards!
Fallon
03-13-2009, 09:25 PM
You know what does get quite annoying?
Jack has gotten the job done and saved this country time after time, yet people still treat him like he's the criminal and never trust that he might know what he's doing. Ungrateful bastards!
Jack should be President for shits sake!
Jack should get a pardon.
I guess they were due for a truly detestable female. It's been quite a while.
Tenbatsuzen
03-16-2009, 05:59 PM
+10 for using the screwdriver that you used to kill the assassin to then hotwire the truck.
extracheese
03-16-2009, 06:07 PM
How hard would you have to throw a flathead screwdriver from 10 feet away for it to enter the chest cavity through the sternum??
Tenbatsuzen
03-16-2009, 06:28 PM
How hard would you have to throw a flathead screwdriver from 10 feet away for it to enter the chest cavity through the sternum??
I was kind of thinking the same thing. Especially since our friend was wearing a flak jacket.
How hard would you have to throw a flathead screwdriver from 10 feet away for it to enter the chest cavity through the sternum??
For Jack Bauer it was merely a toss.
Tenbatsuzen
03-16-2009, 06:34 PM
Actually, someone said that it caught in the flak jacket, but Jack drove it through with the 2x4 shot.
Last night got me back on board.
Furtherman
03-17-2009, 06:09 AM
Actually, someone said that it caught in the flak jacket, but Jack drove it through with the 2x4 shot.
Yep, that's exactly how it went in. I was actually kinda hoping he would be a nemesis for Jack a few more episodes.
HERE COMES THE JACKDOZER!
That was great!
I had been thinking that Ethan was somehow involved, but now I feel for the guy getting shafted by the new cunt in town President's daughter.
ChrisTheCop
03-17-2009, 09:34 AM
Actually, someone said that it caught in the flak jacket, but Jack drove it through with the 2x4 shot.
Last night got me back on board.
Wocka Wocka.
I had been thinking that Ethan was somehow involved, but now I feel for the guy getting shafted by the new cunt in town President's daughter.
Something's up with that triangle. Anyone think the cunt daughter could be Ethan's kid??
Freitag
03-17-2009, 09:49 AM
Yep, that's exactly how it went in. I was actually kinda hoping he would be a nemesis for Jack a few more episodes.
HERE COMES THE JACKDOZER!
That was great!
I had been thinking that Ethan was somehow involved, but now I feel for the guy getting shafted by the new cunt in town President's daughter.
I was really kind of hoping that it was originally scripted for Jack to take out the trailer straight through and crush/impale Quinn with the bulldozer, because that would have been EPIC.
King Imp
03-23-2009, 11:20 PM
Little things like this irk me about the show. Was it really necessary to spend however amount of time they did on that security guard talking to his wife and then showing her as well? Who gives a fucking shit? We'll never see that guy again or her for that matter.
Fallon
03-24-2009, 12:11 AM
They wanted us to feel sorry for a corrupt security supervisor? Fuck that, old jack would have let him die. He needs to stop having feelings and get the job done.
I blame the redhead.
Furtherman
03-24-2009, 05:05 AM
They wanted us to feel sorry for a corrupt security supervisor? Fuck that, old jack would have let him die. He needs to stop having feelings and get the job done.
I blame the redhead.
What was different about this security guard is that as soon as he came on screen I thought, as I'd imagine many of 24 fans did, "He's dead!" Whenever someone like that enters the story, almost all of the time they are killed.
This time we saw Jack's conscience get a hold of him and he did something different. But that also cost Tony. So this might lead to bad blood between Tony and Jack in the coming hours.
ChrisTheCop
03-24-2009, 09:18 AM
Oh Jack's got bad blood alright!
My guess is, theyll "have caught it in time". "and you should rest for a few days... "I cant. I gotta save Tony!"
About the security guard: I thought the actor could end up playing young George W Bush down the line. He had the right look.
AND...yeah, this season's subplot is about Jack having feelings about how what he does affecting people. The fbi lady slapped him, begging him to acknowledge that he feels SOMETHING. However, I was thinking, I'm sure alot of the guys on the evil crew have families as well, just because they didnt talk to em on the cell means we dont care about them? The security guard decided to be on the wrong side, just as they did. Fuck em all.
disneyspy
03-24-2009, 09:20 AM
trip pissed me off runnin away and not usin his gun after jack saved his ass
Man, the Port of Alexandria sure looks different at night.
http://z.about.com/d/dc/1/G/n/X/oldtowndocks.jpg
This thing with Tony is the least believable misdirection I've ever seen in this show.
Tenbatsuzen
03-30-2009, 05:35 PM
This thing with Tony is the least believable misdirection I've ever seen in this show.
No, the least believable part of this is that Jack Bauer is going to die from Mad Cow disease.
ChrisTheCop
03-30-2009, 07:06 PM
This thing with Tony is the least believable misdirection I've ever seen in this show.
The writers are doing a good job at balancing democrat and republican viewpoints.
Starkwood is obviously Haliburton, and the search of the compound reminded me of Iraq and the search for bio weapons there, including the initial little resistance. All good symbolism.
I do now agree that given how much trouble they had putting this season together, that they may have decided to kill off Jack (whoa I almost said Jack off), but it wont be in a hospital bed, he'll die saving Agent Moss, and will die in the female agent's arms.
The writers are doing a good job at balancing democrat and republican viewpoints.
Starkwood is obviously Haliburton, and the search of the compound reminded me of Iraq and the search for bio weapons there, including the initial little resistance. All good symbolism.
I do now agree that given how much trouble they had putting this season together, that they may have decided to kill off Jack (whoa I almost said Jack off), but it wont be in a hospital bed, he'll die saving Agent Moss, and will die in the female agent's arms.
I was thinking more Blackwater but now that you mention Halliburton it's probably a mix of the two.
ChrisTheCop
03-30-2009, 07:19 PM
I was thinking more Blackwater but now that you mention Halliburton it's probably a mix of the two.
oh yeah! them too.
CruelCircus
03-31-2009, 04:22 AM
trip pissed me off runnin away and not usin his gun after jack saved his ass
You're just waiting to see if anyone else gets your reference, aren't you?
Freitag
03-31-2009, 05:16 AM
again: the bioweapon they are using is MAD COW DISEASE.
As soon as they said it, Liz and I turned to each other and said, "Mad Cow disease?"
There's either two ways they're going to get out of this:
1) Whatever they are doing on the other side of the lab "weaponizes" the disease, and Jack has a version that is slow-acting.
2) Whoever gave Jack's test results to the lead CDC person is on Starkwood's payroll.
Furtherman
03-31-2009, 05:37 AM
I do now agree that given how much trouble they had putting this season together, that they may have decided to kill off Jack (whoa I almost said Jack off), but it wont be in a hospital bed, he'll die saving Agent Moss, and will die in the female agent's arms.
Although dying in Renee's arms wouldn't be so bad..... Jack will be back for Day 8, as it was announced last week.
disneyspy! I got your Trip reference.
The twist last night got me. I really thought Voight's right hand man was going to help out Tony and the FBI. That was a nice surprise.
As for Jack - I missed what the doctor said. He's not contagious but may develop symptoms - which are unknown at the time - in the coming hours?
TonyStark
03-31-2009, 06:34 AM
I was thinking more Blackwater but now that you mention Halliburton it's probably a mix of the two.
Yeah, some of the stuff that President Taylor said last night seemed like it was pretty much about Blackwater. "We created them! We gave them blah blah blah we made this monster" Pretty clear that's an anti-PMC viewpoint, apparently one of the writers really enjoyed MGS4.
Furtherman
03-31-2009, 08:20 AM
By the way, Aaron Pierce back on the job.
Awesome.
JimBeam
03-31-2009, 08:24 AM
Where were the Navy SEALs that were supposed to go w/ the FBI people ?
I think the SEALs would've been a little more stealthy than the FBI SSWAT guys.
Here's a thought.
How about they shutdown all airspace over the compound and put up roadblocks coming out of the place ?
Now you avoid any " trespassing " issues.
Furtherman
04-07-2009, 12:17 PM
Jonas Hodges is one of the best bad guys 24 has had in a while. Didn't you just love how he tried to clean his shirt after giving the chairman of the board the 'ol heave-ho?
And looks like they've opened the door for Kim to come back, which isn't a bad thing. I like the way this is going - it seems that Jack will be out of commission for a few episodes, with Tony and maybe Renee (hot, by the way) taking the field.
Anyone else think Jack was exposed to the Martian atmosphere with that bug eyed face he made?
And I really, really, hope Aaron is figuring he's got another crazy lady on his detail and he's going to have to stop her.
extracheese
04-07-2009, 04:39 PM
I thought it was comical that the Chief of Staff of the United States sole protection is a 60 yr old paunchy guy with an arm in a sling! I love Aaron as much as the next fan, but lets face it, he couldn't defend her from anyone.
Why was the fighter Jets so far away? Something like 20 minutes away. This is Washington, the Jets should be able to fire in 5. The president always seems to bullied and impotent this season.
Tenbatsuzen
04-07-2009, 04:42 PM
And I really, really, hope Aaron is figuring he's got another crazy lady on his detail and he's going to have to fuck her.
ftfy.
ChrisTheCop
04-07-2009, 04:57 PM
Jon Voigt does a mean donald trump.
CruelCircus
04-08-2009, 10:29 AM
Why was the fighter Jets so far away? Something like 20 minutes away. This is Washington, the Jets should be able to fire in 5. The president always seems to bullied and impotent this season.
Maybe b/c they needed to be armed w/ bunker busters?
King Imp
04-14-2009, 07:16 PM
Wow! No one had a comment on what happened at the end of this episode?
Personally, I never saw that coming at all. I was certain he would be good and would die in the end. He might still die, but I never saw him as truly being one of the bad guys.
I'm hoping he really isn't because frankly it would make absolutely no sense for him to have been helping all along.
Brad_Rush
04-14-2009, 07:25 PM
Wow! No one had a comment on what happened at the end of this episode?
Personally, I never saw that coming at all. I was certain he would be good and would die in the end. He might still die, but I never saw him as truly being one of the bad guys.
I'm hoping he really isn't because frankly it would make absolutely no sense for him to have been helping all along.
I kind of suspected that was coming from the start. They always jam in some kind of plot twist towards the end and that was the logical one to me.
At first I thought there was something fishy about how Tony came out of nowhere with that intel but I forgot about it.
ChrisTheCop
04-14-2009, 07:36 PM
It was an odd murder. Tony didnt choke him to death. He held his hand over his mouth and nose as you would if you had chloroform. Larry Moss is a VERY good guy; he's done nothing evil at all, and does not deserve to die, even in Tony's eyes. If the writers really wanted us to hate Tony, theyd have had him violently choke Larry, ala' season 1 Tony Soprano. Had Tony not "murdered" Larry, the other bad guy would have.
It is for these reasons I believe Larry is not dead, and Tony is continuing his previous mission.
Also: Kim isnt gone either. After talking to Jack, she marched right back to the doctor and said, "take my stem cells, please!"
Also: Kim isnt gone either. After talking to Jack, she marched right back to the doctor and said, "take my stem cells, please!"
Good thing Obama is in office.
ChrisTheCop
04-14-2009, 07:44 PM
Good thing Obama is in office.
Her name is Taylor, silly.
Her name is Taylor, silly.
Oh yeah, I was thinking of the African general.
ChrisTheCop
04-14-2009, 08:21 PM
Oh yeah, I was thinking of the African general.
Ha. Also please note: He wasnt a terrorist. He was a General. You cant be both, just ask anyone.
King Imp
04-14-2009, 08:24 PM
It was an odd murder. Tony didnt choke him to death. He held his hand over his mouth and nose as you would if you had chloroform. Larry Moss is a VERY good guy; he's done nothing evil at all, and does not deserve to die, even in Tony's eyes. If the writers really wanted us to hate Tony, theyd have had him violently choke Larry, ala' season 1 Tony Soprano. Had Tony not "murdered" Larry, the other bad guy would have.
It is for these reasons I believe Larry is not dead, and Tony is continuing his previous mission.
That's the theory I've seen floated around elsewhere as well. I hope that's the case as A) I like Tony and would hate him to be the bad guy and B) I still say it would make zero sense for him to have been helping out all this time.
Contra
04-15-2009, 08:43 AM
I kind of saw the Tony thing coming. It was so anticlimatic that he just happen to turn out to be "good", and there wasn't a big showdown between him and Jack. However I'm pretty sure Larry is dead, I mean besides the suffocation didn't he take a shotgun blast to the body?
ChrisTheCop
04-15-2009, 08:49 AM
I'm pretty sure Larry is dead, I mean besides the suffocation didn't he take a shotgun blast to the body?
Wearing an fbi vest, which in hollywood means knight's armor.
AND he'll be able to get immediate medical attention (like the first gentleman) because the fbi is already on scene with helicopters, etc...
Maybe I'm jaded, but I wont believe it til his ex chick is crying over his body in the morgue back home.
Contra
04-15-2009, 09:04 AM
Damn yeah I forgot about the vest. Also I thought Tony was dead, and well here we are. If Larry is dead though I'm interested how crazy they are going to make Renee. Now she is going to be out for revenge!
JimBeam
04-15-2009, 09:31 AM
I didn't see it coming either but I do think that Larry is dead.
I think Tony is running his own mission which may not be the same as the one Voight's character was running so that's why he derailed that one.
It'd be ridiculous for Tony's mission to be alturistic at tis point because he pretty much killed an FBI agent in cold blood.
If they spin it at the end that he's doing soemthing for the " greater good " than I'm done w/ the show.
That is too outlandish.
ChrisTheCop
04-15-2009, 09:34 AM
I think Tony is running his own mission which may not be the same as the one Voight's character was running so that's why he derailed that one.
It'd be ridiculous for Tony's mission to be alturistic at tis point because he pretty much killed an FBI agent in cold blood.
If they spin it at the end that he's doing soemthing for the " greater good " than I'm done w/ the show.
That is too outlandish.
Agreed. If he killed Larry Moss, who as I stated is a decent, clean living, by the book, straight arrow, with no skeletons in his closet, and has only been kind hearted to both Jack and Tony... Tony can NOT ever come back as a good guy.
Which is why I think Larry's alive. If he's dead, Tony is truly the most evil villain theyve ever had.
JimBeam
04-15-2009, 09:41 AM
Let's also not forget his partner killed 2 other FBI agents.
I wonder what his angle is w/ the guy from Adventures In Babysitting ( I think that was him ).
ChrisTheCop
04-20-2009, 08:45 PM
Agreed. If he killed Larry Moss, who as I stated is a decent, clean living, by the book, straight arrow, with no skeletons in his closet, and has only been kind hearted to both Jack and Tony... Tony can NOT ever come back as a good guy.
Which is why I think Larry's alive. If he's dead, Tony is truly the most evil villain theyve ever had.
Tony Almeda is a fucking asshole.
And he's gonna tell me how to go green? I dont think so.
there is no doubt about it. that was a personal moment between him and jack when jack was having his seizure. I cant think of anyone Ive hated on tv more than him, ever. So was that the antidote he had? Or just Jack's meds?
and this would be a spoiler if you choose not to watch the preview:
Tony is sleeping with the president's daughter!!!!
I really cant wait to see why, and what his plan is, and who he's working for!
But back to Larry Moss; the writers didnt even make him cheat on his wife. Pure as the driven snow. Bravo to them for fooling me.
Tony had the injections Jack was using to control his symptoms.
And Tony was with that woman who posed as Jon Voight's attorney, not the President's daughter.
JimBeam
04-21-2009, 12:11 PM
Yeah I don't think that was the president's daughter that was kissing him.
You do see Tony fighting w/ the guy that has the canister in the previews for next week.
extracheese
04-27-2009, 06:04 PM
Great stuff tonight.
Only 2 shows left (1 hour episodes) the next 2 Mondays.
I was wrong - i thought the bigwig behind this mess was President Noah Daniels, who seemed miffed to be leaving office and hated handing it over to a liberal dove.
It seems this cabal of evildoers creates far more intrigue.
Seemed a little silly that Supersoldier (black guy) was defeated by an emty gym bag from 6 feet away.
The Presidents daughter could have attained the same effect by simply leaking the story of Hodges survival rather than this ridiculous murder for hire scheme.
TONY ALMEIDA IS A PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tenbatsuzen
04-27-2009, 06:15 PM
The Presidents daughter could have attained the same effect by simply leaking the story of Hodges survival rather than this ridiculous murder for hire scheme.
I don't think you quite get it. The president's daughter is in on this.
extracheese
04-27-2009, 06:31 PM
if the presidents Daughter was in on this, a phone call to her people would take care of things. The call she made was dangerous as it involved an outsider with dubious skills and motivation.But the writers could have her do that if they didnt want US TO KNOW she was in on it until the end.
I really hope she isnt in on it, as that would be too much...everyone in on it except the president and jack. Most people couldnt keep a secret from their coworkers for a day, this season on 24, a 1000 people secretly conspired to wreak havoc with NO ONE FINDING OUT.
ive never believed conspiracy theories for that reason.
Contra
04-27-2009, 06:40 PM
Good, you keep not believing, it makes things easier.
Freitag
04-28-2009, 07:09 AM
if the presidents Daughter was in on this, a phone call to her people would take care of things. The call she made was dangerous as it involved an outsider with dubious skills and motivation.But the writers could have her do that if they didnt want US TO KNOW she was in on it until the end.
I really hope she isnt in on it, as that would be too much...everyone in on it except the president and jack. Most people couldnt keep a secret from their coworkers for a day, this season on 24, a 1000 people secretly conspired to wreak havoc with NO ONE FINDING OUT.
ive never believed conspiracy theories for that reason.
The daughter has already been shown to be manipulative.
The daughter was working deals with outside companies.
The daughter ran out of the room when Jonas Hodges started talking to Jack.
The daughter is trying to manipulate Aaron Pierce to kill Hodges not out of revenge, but to shut him up.
Daughter is in on it.
JimBeam
04-28-2009, 07:37 AM
Seemed a little silly that Supersoldier (black guy) was defeated by an emty gym bag from 6 feet away.
I thought the same thing. He surely didn't put up much of a fight.
Why was he stuggling so bad when the shower curtain got thrown over his head ?
It wasn't like he was bound so he should've been able to twist out of that.
I don't think you quite get it. The president's daughter is in on this.
I don't think so.
My thoughts are that she's motivated by revenge for her brother more than aything else.
Although the exchange w/ that guy does show that she's not squeemish about somebody getting killed in order to atain her goals.
Why did they have to show us that the hitman or whoever that was that she called was gay ?
There was no need for that unless it plays into the plot.
ChrisTheCop
04-28-2009, 08:55 AM
Why was he stuggling so bad when the shower curtain got thrown over his head ?
I was reminded of the pillow in The Naked Gun ( :30 in this clip)
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Why did they have to show us that the hitman or whoever that was that she called was gay ?
To remind us that he's evil.
Actually, at first I thought the 2 Muslim dudes were gay. Then I remembered, theyre not REALLY bad guys, theyre being set up, so they couldnt be gay.
JimBeam
04-28-2009, 08:57 AM
The 2 Muslim guys are brothers.
ChrisTheCop
04-28-2009, 08:59 AM
The 2 Muslim guys are brothers.
I think they'd have to be African-American to be considered that.
Doctor Manhattan
04-28-2009, 10:22 AM
Actually, at first I thought the 2 Muslim dudes were gay. Then I remembered, theyre not REALLY bad guys, theyre being set up, so they couldnt be gay.
Wait, I thought there are no gay Muslims.
Contra
04-28-2009, 12:34 PM
Not in Iran anyway
Why did they have to show us that the hitman or whoever that was that she called was gay ?
There was no need for that unless it plays into the plot.
He's not a "hitman" - or at least not in the traditional sense- he is a politico.
I do assume that it was intentional that we see he is gay- although I have no idea why yet.
I also don't think the President's daughter is "in on it"- and I don't think she is smart enough.
She seems to have hack political desires. Yes, she his manipulative, but I think she is more a selfish C-t than part of an evil cabal.
Contra
04-28-2009, 05:35 PM
Hey there was a phonebook in that gym bag, those things hurt when flung at the face!
JimBeam
04-29-2009, 05:09 AM
That whole scene w/ Tony and the other guy was very forced.
What was the reason for the guy pointing the gun at Tony ?
Why did he care what about what they planned to do w/ the canister ?
And as mentioned the " fight " was useless.
King Imp
04-29-2009, 08:20 AM
Not one mention of Jack going off on Garofalo at the end? To me that was classic.
The best part of it is you know she is exactly like that in real life, with her whining about civil liberties and "big brother" and all that happy horseshit.
Not one mention of Jack going off on Garofalo at the end? To me that was classic.
The best part of it is you know she is exactly like that in real life, with her whining about civil liberties and "big brother" and all that happy horseshit.
Actually, the point of that was to show that Jack has lost his mind, especially when he slips and starts screaming about President Palmer, and doesn't correct himself.
He's not a "hitman" - or at least not in the traditional sense- he is a politico.
I do assume that it was intentional that we see he is gay- although I have no idea why yet..
maybe I was wrong about that.
ChrisTheCop
05-04-2009, 11:07 PM
Maybe it's cause I watched it at 130am with a lil beer in me, but this seemed like a lackluster episode, no?
And I'm really surprised that Janine Garawfulo is allowing her assumed political views to repeatedly be shown in a bad light. Just always the inappropriately whiny girl who's always told to shut up because she's just plain wrong.
Furtherman
05-05-2009, 05:26 AM
Maybe it's cause I watched it at 130am with a lil beer in me, but this seemed like a lackluster episode, no?
And I'm really surprised that Janine Garawfulo is allowing her assumed political views to repeatedly be shown in a bad light. Just always the inappropriately whiny girl who's always told to shut up because she's just plain wrong.
Yea, it was a bit weak, but you can't have 24 great shows in a row. The big thing here was who killed Jonas - was it the people Taylor's daughter called or someone else? And if she is responsible, will she have to fork over $250K or be killed?
And Jack going off on Janis last week was great. This week, yea, a little forced. Although I'd like to think if she questioned him a third time, that would be the last time.
This was a calm before the storm episode.
I'm tired of Sick Jack.
When is Kim going to come back and save him?
I really hate the President's daughter - why does Aaron always end up with the loony women?
The stuff with Tony was making me physically ill - I hate how evil he's become.
I wonder what subway system they'll use in place of Metro next week?
The ratings are the highest the show has ever had, btw.
And I'm really surprised that Janine Garawfulo is allowing her assumed political views to repeatedly be shown in a bad light. Just always the inappropriately whiny girl who's always told to shut up because she's just plain wrong.
Why? 24 has always had it both ways - while the Republicans can go and feel good about themselves because someone told Janeane Garofalo that she is a big dummy, the Democrats (Janeane included) feel empowered that there is a television show that exposes the vast right wing conspiracy.
lleeder
05-05-2009, 04:12 PM
Jack will be saved using a cord blood sample from his grand daughter.
TonyStark
05-08-2009, 06:53 AM
Jack will be saved using a cord blood sample from his grand daughter.
I actually think that it's going to be Kim and that Chloe is going to call her and get her back for some episodes down the line so that she can save Jack's life.
I did not like last weeks episode, but I thoroughly liked tonight's twists.
unlike some of the other ones, I found these reasonable and exciting.
I'm actually looking forward to the finale next week
I think I would prefer Jack saying "Kill the bitch. I'm going to die in a couple hours anyway and I've done enough for her anyway," rather than another 2 hours of Jack does crazy shit for his daughter.
JPMNICK
05-11-2009, 07:47 PM
I think I would prefer Jack saying "Kill the bitch. I'm going to die in a couple hours anyway and I've done enough for her anyway," rather than another 2 hours of Jack does crazy shit for his daughter.
i kind of agree. he has already choose his country over his family many times before. I think now he thinks he will 100% die, he feels like fuck the country and let me do something nice for my daughter. I am sure all this will be compounded when he finds out he has a grandkid. and my prediction is the stem cells from the baby somehow save him. my guess is he breaks into the cryogenic facility where they are and drinks them like the egg scene from Rocky
TonyStark
05-12-2009, 08:05 AM
I think I would prefer Jack saying "Kill the bitch. I'm going to die in a couple hours anyway and I've done enough for her anyway," rather than another 2 hours of Jack does crazy shit for his daughter.
I actually think that he realizes since he's dying, besides his legacy (ie, KIM) he has nothing left to live for so he's going to do all that he can to protect her.
JimBeam
05-12-2009, 08:31 AM
Why would these peopel try and get Tony back ?
He's obvioulsy incompetent and they no longer have their secret weapon so they don't even need him.
And for a conspiracy they sure do have a lot of folks involved.
Just killing Tony and that chick won't be good enough.
They've gotta be made to suffer.
Kinda like that acid scene w/ Tom Hanks' kid in " Untraceable ".
Furtherman
05-12-2009, 08:38 AM
I'm dying to know what Tony's reasons were for doing this. Was is just because Michele was killed? There's got to be more.
And Kim is in danger again! Although the setup at the airport was a little too convenient.
Imagine is Kim is killed and Jack is saved by his granddaughter's blood. Might be a bit too much but this show isn't afraid to kill people.
I think Renee is going to take Tony down, with Jack to sick to do so.
And Pierce is bringing that bitch DOWN!
Doctor Manhattan
05-12-2009, 08:38 AM
i kind of agree. he has already choose his country over his family many times before. I think now he thinks he will 100% die, he feels like fuck the country and let me do something nice for my daughter.
I am sure that he will try to find a way to save Kim while not letting Tony really go free, I don't think he's going to just say "Fuck 'em" about his country even if he thinks he is dying (which of course he won't, Season 8 is going to happen). By the look of the "next week on 24" clips, there seem to be a lot of shit going down in a very short time.
Loved having Tony back on the show - hated the double twist of him being a real asshole - however, I also liked last night's twists (even if, once again, they completely mess with DC geography and once again no one gets the DC metro right - ahhhh, well)
I read somewhere that "Tony" was signed on for the next season - not sure what that even means with this show, as he could always be just another random supporting character to move the plot
Brad_Rush
05-18-2009, 06:05 PM
Yeah that might be the worst season finale of anything i've ever seen. So boring!
extracheese
05-18-2009, 06:44 PM
Damn them! The show worked all these years because the viewer invested his time in return for closure at season end. The viewers expect it and deserve it. They decide to cop out and screw us by continuing the plot lines - too many unresolved issues. So the writers pussied out and just figured they can continue this mess next year in NYC when Alan whateverhisname is gets iff (no evidence) and his cabal of evildoers are still out there. Tony is will get sprung or escape.
They suck
King Imp
05-18-2009, 10:38 PM
Didn't care much for the very end of the show, but I was satisfied with Tony's reasoning for his actions.
Oh, and I love watching Kim run. :thumbup:
Fallon
05-18-2009, 11:57 PM
But hey, we got closure for the presidential family storyline.
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:annoyed:
Furtherman
05-19-2009, 05:43 AM
But hey, we got closure for the presidential family storyline.
Yea, we did. Olivia goes to jail but the President pretty much lost her family. It was the right thing to do.
I was hoping Tony's actions was more to just revenge, but I was thinking Renee was going to take him out. No dice - he lives for the next day.
Boring? That shoot-out at the end was great!
So yea, it continues onto next year, but think about all the other season endings. They all, with the exception of last season, left off as such. Kim will save Jack and Jack is off to NYC next, to head-butt bad guys and fashion designers.
I thought it was a good ending to an overall great season.
And c'mon, who didn't laugh when Kim yelled "DAMMIT!!"
Freitag
05-19-2009, 06:09 AM
This season opened with such promise, and just fell apart in the last 8 episodes.
Virus season is still the best.
Earlshog
05-19-2009, 07:11 AM
Oh, and I love watching Kim run. :thumbup:
haha.... it was great have them back....
This season fell apart for me several times during the run, only to rebound a few episodes later. It's kind of cool that after all of these years, that they finally REALLY found an audience - getting the best ratings they've ever gotten.
I just didn't like Sick Jack, and was afraid this was going to be the ending they were leading toward (although, to be honest, I don't know if I would have liked an eleventh hour (or 23rd hour!) save. Ultimately, though, I thought that with the exception of the kick ass shoot out (how great is Renee? SERIOUSLY!), seeing Kim run, and Chloe letting out a smile as she left the FBI - I really didn't dig it - too much of Jack out of commission in the last bit - and maybe the skeeviest I've ever gotten during a 24 was them talking of harvesting Jack to make more bio-weapons.
So, they pretty much have everyone in hand to pick up the next season kind of right where this one lets off - the President saved the country, did the right thing, but shit-canned her entire family - ok, that was heartbreaking - I wanted Olivia to pay, but when it came down to it, I found myself on the father's side a bit - they have THE NUMBER ONE bad guy in FBI custody, with Renee getting ready to get all Jack Baur on his ass, as whatshername is handcuffed outside - you have Kim risking her life to save her dad's - and Tony is still alive.
Would actually love it if they picked up the next season the very next day - like, one minute later, they just start the clock going again.
ChrisTheCop
05-19-2009, 08:13 AM
If they had any balls, they had really set up next season with Renee as the new Jack; so Jack really couldve died last night, He made his piece with God, he'd proven himself worthy of the country's gratitude. Yes, it would become a chick show next year and might not work, but with the trouble they had pulling this season together, I wudda thought they had learned that it needs a drastic change like that. Jack's death wouldve been the shakeup it needs. I know we had all read that Kiefer had signed on for next season, but I was holding out hope that that was a red herring, or simply meant he had signed on to produce or direct. With Renee as the new Jack, it would open up all new personal storylines. I dunno if the old 24 can survive another season of the same old same old.
King Imp
05-19-2009, 08:19 AM
With Keifer and his law issues lately, they may have to decide to "off" him next season as this latest setback may push production back on next season. First it's the DUI, now it's throwing headbutts. What's next that may land him in jail again?
Doctor Manhattan
05-19-2009, 08:44 AM
And it's on DVD today (the full season!) that is fast! I wish Lost would do that, We have to wait until Dec 8th
ChrisTheCop
05-19-2009, 08:45 AM
And it's on DVD today (the full season!) that is fast! I wish Lost would do that, We have to wait until Dec 8th
I've got (almost) the entire season on my tivo... come on over.
No lines no waiting.
samechick
05-19-2009, 09:24 AM
If they had any balls, they had really set up next season with Renee as the new Jack
I was so looking forward to this. I thought "God damn they are really going to blow people's minds and let Jack die and turn Renee into a real bad ass."
And then they didn't.
Worst season finale ever.
Doctor Manhattan
05-19-2009, 09:39 AM
I've got (almost) the entire season on my tivo... come on over.
No lines no waiting.
I'll be there in 88 minutes.
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/466/alpacinoi.jpg
Yeeaaahhh!
Actually I have the whole season on my laptop, I don't know how it got there but there it is...
Furtherman
06-15-2009, 06:54 AM
Katee Sackhoff is joining the cast. (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/06/exclusive-katee.html?xid=email-top25-today-Scoop%3A+Katee+Sackhoff+makes+time+for+%2724%27)
Sources confirm to me exclusively that the Battlestar Galactica heroine has been tapped to play the series regular role of Dana Walsh, a highly respected and down-to-earth data analyst at the new and improved New York branch of CTU.
JPMNICK
06-15-2009, 07:44 AM
Katee Sackhoff is joining the cast. (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/06/exclusive-katee.html?xid=email-top25-today-Scoop%3A+Katee+Sackhoff+makes+time+for+%2724%27)
i am pumped they will be in NYC next season
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