Greatest rapper ever?

[BoondockSaint]

My vote is for Rakim.

[Sarge]

[QUOTE=BoondockSaint;1378916]My vote is for Rakim.[/QUOTE

Definately, hands down.

[BoondockSaint]

Woah. I tried to make this a poll but it went haywire. So, I guess just state your choice.

[foodcourtdruide]

Tough choice. Rakim always seems to be the consensus. KRSONE, Ice Cube and Chuck D are some of my fav's.

[SatCam]

chuck d and krs-one

honorable mention goes to aaron carter

[Snacks]

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not a bad choice

[Snacks]

here is one of my all time fav rap songs from the 80's. Slick Rick was smooth but not the best.


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[IMSlacker]

I'll go with Chuck D.

[DolaMight]

My vote is for Rakim.

Most say Rakim, and I think I agree. Lyrics, Flow and Gimmick make a great MC. You have to objectively separate production which is tough with those Eric B beats.

I think Big L was better based on those three things but he came along 6 years later so I still give the edge to Rakim for innovation. But again Diamond D, Showbiz and Lord Finesse on production hard to separate.

Followed by in order:
KRS One
Chuck D
Q-Tip
Guru
Tupac & Notorious BIG & NAS(even though I don't like their music, talent can't be denied)
Kool Kieth
Ice-T(not cube)

And then modern greats that have the skill but not quite the rep yet:
MF Doom (Post KMD)
J-Live
Mr. Lif
Acrobatik

[Don Stugots]

"the greatest rapper you heard, is LL COOL J."

he says so.

[DolaMight]

"the greatest rapper you heard, is LL COOL J."

he says so.

Ice-T ain't got no props for CoolJ

[sailor]

but what would folks say aboot rakim if he came along today?

[fohat]

Russell Simmons and Daryl McDaniels

[lleeder]

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[Snacks]

greatest rappers ever are Fernando and Thomas:dry:

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[mikeyboy]

http://www.gocontinental.com/photos/dangerfield_rappin.jpg

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[weekapaugjz]

not a big fan of rap, but my vote is nas.

[lleeder]

Gotta love those production values.

[lleeder]

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[underdog]

I gotta go with Biggie or Nas.

[Devo37]

ron's buddy, rap.

second place, weird al:
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[SatCam]

greatest rappers ever are Fernando and Thomas:dry:

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is that marc with a c on the right?

[BeltOfScotch]

Chuck D

[Death Metal Moe]

http://myspace-761.vo.llnwd.net/00377/16/71/377461761_l.jpg

::do do do::

"He wants it..."

[Fat_Sunny]

You Guys Are All Just Too Embarrassed To Give The Answer You Know In Your Hearts Is Right.

Three Little Words......

Ice Ice Baby.

[BadGuyDavey]

Nasty Nas
Tupac Shakur
Biggie
Ghostface Killah
Rakim
KRS-One
Eazy E
Snoop Dogg


*note- i wont say doctor dre, because he hasnt written any of his own shit that is decent... Dretox better rock hard or go home


Im tempted to drop some new blood into the group: Kanye, Lupe, and Weezy, i say lil wayne because he can freestyle very well and he has been coming out with more and more hits these days...

[patsopinion]

jay-z

[hedges]

Rakim

[Sheeplovr]

Nipsey Russell

[StupidGirlllll]

but what would folks say aboot rakim if he came along today?

Get out of the way here comes the KING....

You people must be very young or not from the tri-state area. Not 1 person mentioned Big Daddy Kane, with his dancers Scrappy & Scoob..

[Ritalin]

Nipsey Russell

White people are so scared of black people

[oh_kee_pa]

lodi dodi, we likes to party...

you gotta go slick rick

[foodcourtdruide]

I don't really get the tupac fascination. I honestly never thought he was a great rapper. Also, the stuff him and Dr. Dre did was the beginning of the end for non-commercialized rap.

[Earlshog]

Get out of the way here comes the KING....

You people must be very young or not from the tri-state area. Not 1 person mentioned Big Daddy Kane, with his dancers Scrappy & Scoob..

dont forget DJ Mr Cee

[PhishHead]

these are just in my opinion the best.

Kool Keith
Atmosphere
Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Tupac

[IMSlacker]

No love for Krazee-Eyez Killa?

http://myspace-135.vo.llnwd.net/00279/53/13/279003135_m.jpg

[IMSlacker]

No love for Krazee-Eyez Killa?

http://myspace-135.vo.llnwd.net/00279/53/13/279003135_m.jpg

[grlNIN]

Rakim.

[JPMNICK]

i liked this thread better when lleeder started it.

rakim
krs-1
Biggie
and my new fav out right now is Lupe Fiasco who is hands down the best rapper out in the last 3 or 4 years

[Dan G]

Russell Simmons and Daryl McDaniels

Russell never rapped, it was his younger brother, Joseph (Run).

My top 5:

5: LL Cool J
4: Chino XL
3: Rakim
2: KRS-ONE
1: Chuck D

[Crispy123]

2 words...

O D B

http://www.comecorrect.net/img/odb.jpg

[JohnWC]

Gotta go with Nas... or maybe Biggie.


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[AnnoyedGrunt]

Nobody is better than Dee Dee King.

[Badinia]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g4/painking_2006/SLICK_RICK_2.jpg

Slick Slick Slick Rickin' em.

[ChimneyFish]

Allow me to state the obvious....

1) G.ifted U.limited R.hymes U.niversal
There will never be one better.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/luxa1/guru.gif

2) Black Thought
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/luxa1/ae-roots4.jpg

[fohat]

All those other guys are Sucka MC's yo

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these guys are so hard core they don't even lipsink

[ScottFromGA]

to quote Lil' Jimmy....

"Rap is for queeeeeeeeeeeeeers."

[ScottFromGA]

I like "Lil' Catty"...


his shit is off da chizzain.


http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u176/SCOTTFROMGA/lolcatsdotcomkkaf32pxffrs7l3m.jpg

[Hottub]

Lou Reed.

[Fezticle98]

Boltok the Rapist. Grandfather and father of Borat Sagdiyev.

Oh, you said rapper?

[J.Clints]

Warren G

[Death Metal Moe]

http://imagesource.art.com/images/-/Deborah-Harry-Photograph-C12036835.jpeg

[J.Clints]

Vanilla ICE

[ChimneyFish]

http://imagesource.art.com/images/-/Deborah-Harry-Photograph-C12036835.jpeg

I was waiting for Blowhard to post that.

[drjoek]

Chuck D

[FezPaul]

http://www.neatorama.com/images/2006-08/solid-gold-toilet.jpg

[PopPop]

Too $hort

[DolaMight]

Too $hort

he's automatically disqualified for this record:
http://www.hiphopplaya.com/album/jacket/2131.jpg

[Bossanova]

Had he not been executed........ Big L

[J.Clints]

he's automatically disqualified for this record:
http://www.hiphopplaya.com/album/jacket/2131.jpg

greatest rap album ever

[reillyluck]

Rakim.

[Bossanova]

Rakim.

Seriously, my internet crush is slowly moving from Gvac to Reilly

[DolaMight]

Had he not been executed........ Big L

139 and lennox was the danger zone, proud to have stood there, shuttered away avoiding eye contact and locking car doors

find me a better freestyle, 8am freestyle at that:
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better one liners:
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better track:
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[J.Clints]

Seriously, my internet crush is slowly moving from Gvac to Reilly

she can hurt you though

[Bossanova]

find me a better freestyle, 8am freestyle at that:
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better one liners:
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better track:
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Thank you muscle. He was fucking awesome

[JohnWC]

Had he not been executed........ Big L

Great pick.

[lleeder]

i liked this thread better when lleeder started it.



At least some people remember

[RoseBlood]

Rakim
Talib Kweli
De La Soul

[Bay Ridge Tim]

Del tha Funkee Homosapien
MF Doom
Redman (can't help it, I know he's lazy, but his flow is infectious.)

[TheMojoPin]

139 and lennox was the danger zone, proud to have stood there, shuttered away avoiding eye contact and locking car doors

find me a better freestyle, 8am freestyle at that:
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better one liners:
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better track:
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It's a damn shame that more hip-hop fans do't know about him. He was basically a skinny Biggie if he had been part of the Nasal Tones.

[epo]

Chuck D.

Thanks. I'll hang up and listen to your response now.

[Slumbag]

Had he not been executed........ Big L

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
BIG L ABSOLUTLEY!!!!

[Crispy123]

http://www.neatorama.com/images/2006-08/solid-gold-toilet.jpg


FP, It was supposed to be best Rapper:laugh:

[reformed]

popozao

[weekapaugjz]

Warren G

i disagree

[razorboy]

By body of work, probably KRS, but greatest one time hit and possibly the greatest rap album ever,

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/razorboy_/GZALiquidSwords.jpg

[J.Clints]

Best rapper?????Cowboy troy

[ChimneyFish]

By body of work, probably KRS, but greatest one time hit and possibly the greatest rap album ever,

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/razorboy_/GZALiquidSwords.jpg

I beg to differ.
If I had to pick one album, I'm definitely picking this.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/luxa1/B000024D0J_02_LZZZZZZZ.jpg

And I've never been more disappointed by a follow up.
They took lightning in a bottle and just shit on it.

[DolaMight]

By body of work, probably KRS, but greatest one time hit and possibly the greatest rap album ever,

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/razorboy_/GZALiquidSwords.jpg

Definatly one of the top 3, this was one that people who didn't like Wu-Tang couldn't deny it's greatness. 36 chambers was great but it was just a bunch of singles thrown together, liquid swords stronger album.

[DolaMight]

Best rapper?????Cowboy troy

When Big, Rich, Imus or country fans in general are asked "Name one of "them" y'all like best... they all say Cowboy Troy.

[FUNKMAN]

Greatest rapper ever?

http://www.simonpaperchemical.com/food-wrap/glad-cling-wrap-300-ft-roll.jpg

[Boogonzo]

Hands down Big L

" You runnin with boys, I am runnin with men/
I'll be rippen the mic till I am a hundred and ten/
have them niggas like damn this nigga done done it again..

Remember that Jay-Z completely stole Big L's style... Listen to Jay-Z when he first came out... before Reasonable Doubt

[MikeB]

Rakim invented the rapping style that has been present ever sense. Listen to paid in full and compare it to everything before that. Chuck D is my favorite rapper but he says Rakim is the greatest and I agree.

Favorite rap album? Fear of a black planet.

Greatest rap song? Welcome to the terrordome.

[cougarjake13]

john cena

[Rawkus]

2pac is my favorite musician of all time, not just rapper and i love all types of music. The guy's work ethic was ridiculous, the amount of music he made in such a short period of time, especially after he was released from prison in 95 til he died in 96 is nothing short of amazing. The things he said, good or bad just hit me in a way no other rapper does. I think he was so talented and it's sad to think of where his talent might have taken him. I couldn't even narrow down a list of my favorite songs because theres so many but i will say that his most popular songs like california love, hit em up, i get around etc are all my least favorites. He was just so human and intelligent, i just love the guy. Theres just too many songs to list but heres a few along with a few from some talent DJ's on youtube that are keeping his music alive with awesome remixes. Haters bash away.

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[Snoogans]

you can post all the Pac videos you want. Biggie's still better

[zildjian361]

Thirstin Howl III:wink:

[Kublakhan61]

you can post all the Pac videos you want. Biggie's still better

TRUTH BOMB

[Snacks]

you can post all the Pac videos you want. Biggie's still better

I agree with that 100% but I dont even think Biggie is the best ever. I think 2pac was 1 of the most overrated ever! I liked some of his work but he gets way too much credit and respect for someone who I though was avg at best! That just my opinion though!

Best Ever, dont know but Eminem has to be in the conversation!

[Rawkus]

the videos i posted were to try to give another side to people that hear 2pac and all they think of is "oh yea california love is alright". Personally, i think his commercial stuff is way overrated and his other material is criminally underrated. #2, i love biggie he never dropped a bad verse and his first album is perfection. But it's gets old to me that whenever i bring up 2pac the immediate next comment is biggie's better.

I think lyrically biggie had the edge on him. Lyrically eminem and big L do too but, do they have the entire package? i don't think so. When you look at greatest rapper and you take into account everything: Lyrics, cultural impact, message, voice, quality/amount of material, and finally that intangible Aura kind of thing that, to me, only a few other musicians have had(kurt cobain) it doesn't even come to in my opinion. If it's all about punchlines & rhymes, then yes 2pac wasn't #1 but to me, he made hiphop about something more than that.

If it was greatest lyricist of all time 2pac wouldn't be in my top 5 it would be biggie, big L, eminem, early nas then...i don't know about # 5, i ramble a lot

[Kublakhan61]

If it was greatest lyricist of all time 2pac wouldn't be in my top 5 it would be biggie, big L, eminem, early nas then...i don't know about # 5, i ramble a lot

Nasty Nas is still a great lyricist. To say 'early Nas' is to do him dirty.

Biggie
Nas
Ghostface
Del the Funkee Homosapien
Andre 3000

[Donnie Iris]

50 Tyson

[Snoogans]

the videos i posted were to try to give another side to people that hear 2pac and all they think of is "oh yea california love is alright". Personally, i think his commercial stuff is way overrated and his other material is criminally underrated. #2, i love biggie he never dropped a bad verse and his first album is perfection. But it's gets old to me that whenever i bring up 2pac the immediate next comment is biggie's better.

I think lyrically biggie had the edge on him. Lyrically eminem and big L do too but, do they have the entire package? i don't think so. When you look at greatest rapper and you take into account everything: Lyrics, cultural impact, message, voice, quality/amount of material, and finally that intangible Aura kind of thing that, to me, only a few other musicians have had(kurt cobain) it doesn't even come to in my opinion. If it's all about punchlines & rhymes, then yes 2pac wasn't #1 but to me, he made hiphop about something more than that.

If it was greatest lyricist of all time 2pac wouldn't be in my top 5 it would be biggie, big L, eminem, early nas then...i don't know about # 5, i ramble a lot

dude you are asking who is the best rapper. If you had posted a thread i love tupac and put up the videos id have been here sayin tupac was good. Thats not what this is about.

And also, if you are asking people who is the best rapper ever, the people answering probably listen to rap. Anyone who really is a fan you dont have to show them Tupac stuff, we know it. We have heard it. thats why we are in the convo

Thats why its a debate. If someone says tupac, someone says Big, someone says Nas, I can accept those possibly arguments.

As for Snacks, I dont put Eminem in this discussion. Eminem is very very good, but if Eminem wasnt white, no one would put him in this discussion. Even more so, he probably woulda sold about 25% of the albums he did. i prefaced that he is very very good cause his first 2 or 3 albums were good and worth buying, but thats not why a large part bought it. In fact, id estimate that half the people who own Eminem albums have never even heard a Biggie song past Hypnotize or Big Poppa. Those arent rap fans. KRock and those kinda places playing eminem (only cause he is white, which is shameful in itself) that sold him so many albums

[Snoogans]

oh yea and if anyone tries to put Jay Z anywhere near this, you deserve a pistol to the teeth

[hanso]

50 Tyson

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[Snacks]

the videos i posted were to try to give another side to people that hear 2pac and all they think of is "oh yea california love is alright". Personally, i think his commercial stuff is way overrated and his other material is criminally underrated. #2, i love biggie he never dropped a bad verse and his first album is perfection. But it's gets old to me that whenever i bring up 2pac the immediate next comment is biggie's better.

I think lyrically biggie had the edge on him. Lyrically eminem and big L do too but, do they have the entire package? i don't think so. When you look at greatest rapper and you take into account everything: Lyrics, cultural impact, message, voice, quality/amount of material, and finally that intangible Aura kind of thing that, to me, only a few other musicians have had(kurt cobain) it doesn't even come to in my opinion. If it's all about punchlines & rhymes, then yes 2pac wasn't #1 but to me, he made hiphop about something more than that.

If it was greatest lyricist of all time 2pac wouldn't be in my top 5 it would be biggie, big L, eminem, early nas then...i don't know about # 5, i ramble a lot

so youre not saying he is the best rapper youre just saying hes your favorite rapper?

[hanso]

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[spe5150]

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(sorry, couldn't help myself)