JJ Abrams - 1.18.08 - Cloverfield

[Tenbatsuzen]

Show of hands - who saw Transformers last night and saw that really spooky trailer with no title cards, no information, just handheld camera footage from "Rob's" going away party and then the head of the fucking Statue of Liberty landing in brooklyn!

It apparently has a fake title of "Cloverfield", and Wikipedia says it may be a Voltron movie (!!!)

Anybody have any thoughts?

[lleeder]

Sounds really interesting. Too bad by the time it actually comes out there will be several more trailers giving away all the key plot points. I would love to have just short mysterious trailers like this for movies.

[mikeyboy]

Don't care, but I'm of the agre group that really doesn't give a crap about movies about overhyped 80s toys.

[cougarjake13]

man i hope it was universal trailer

sometimes you get different trailers in different parts of the country

[Midkiff]

It did say something about "Bad Robot" at the end there.

It looks scary as hell.

[DolaMight]

Don't care, but I'm of the agre group that really doesn't give a crap about movies about overhyped 80s toys.

I agree, I never really gave a crap about movies about inaminate objets, comics, and espectially videogames. Although overhyped 80's toy? Transformer is underhyped if anything, some of them were like assmebling a rubix cube to bet em back together. I always ended up breaking them when I couldn't remember how to put em back together. Great toy.

[PhishHead]

I have read many reviews about this trailer online and not one mention of voltron, the only mention I have seen is that it is a monster movie, maybe called parasite or something. AICN has it down as a monster movie and nothing about voltron.

[TooLowBrow]

Originally, word began leaking out of Hollywood that J.J. Abrams was producing a top secret project named Cloverfield, and that the film had already gone into production. Some folks immediately speculated that Stephen King's The Dark Tower was secretly filming under the name Cloverfield (you'll remember that J.J. Abrams became involved in that adaptation not long ago) -- one guy even started a blog claiming to be an actor in The Dark Tower, and confirmed that it was being filmed under the name Cloverfield. Well that was bogus; King's own assistant even commented here telling us so.

So what is Cloverfield? Cinematical's own Scott Weinberg attended one of the aforementioned Transformers screenings, and here's what he had to say about the trailer: "We open with a bunch of teens partying. Apparently one of 'em is leaving town tomorrow and everyone's kind of bittersweet about it. Then they hear a giant ruckus and head outside to see a massive explosion in the distance. Out on the streets people are running around all panicky-like. Then the head of the Statue of Liberty lands in the middle of the street and the date of January 18, 2008, pops up. Oh, and it's all done with handheld video cameras. Basically The Blair Witch Project meets the Godzilla remake ... which means I can't wait to see it." When I asked Scott what he thought the film was about, he replied: "I'm told it's a monster movie." I immediately wondered whether it was a remake of The Host, but both Scott and I felt that would be an insanely quick turnaround if true. However, we did both agree that Cloverfield is most likely a fake title. So what's the real title? Will J.J. Abrams unveil it at ComicCon? And is this not a clever way to market a film, or what?

[BalzacWB]

trailer looked amazing.



I hope its a rampaging monster movie... or fucking voltron but I am leaning towards a monster movie. I just hope it isnt an american godzilla movie, we all know how that worked out last time

[hammersavage]

It did say something about "Bad Robot" at the end there.

It looks scary as hell.

Bad Robot is just the name of JJ Abrams production company. I hear it at the end of every Lost episode.

This trailer definitely got in my head. It better not be the smoke monster...

[Tall_James]

Don't care, but I'm of the agre group that really doesn't give a crap about movies about overhyped 80s toys.

Yup, that about sums it up for me as well.

Talk to me when the Wachowski's "Speed Racer" is released.

[HBox]

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070704.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

Yup, that about sums it up for me as well.

Talk to me when the Wachowski's "Speed Racer" is released.

So you're about over-hyped 70's cartoons then?

Bay's next movie should be Star Blazers.

[Tenbatsuzen]

In retrospect, Voltron on Earth doesn't make a lot of sense, but the fireballs coming out of the main explosion reminded me of the Lions launching when I first saw the trailer.

It just looks cool, but I'm not entirely sure I want to see NYC being blown up like that with low-quality cameras. It had a really eerie 9/11 feel to it, although it looks really interesting.

[Snacks]

IMDB has it called "Untitled J.J. Abrams Project (2008)"
and has this written about the Plot Synopsis:
"a giant monster movie (refferred internally as The Parasite) which is shot using home video cameras from the point of view of real people who are experiencing the attack on New York City "

great, thanks for the info IMDB!!!

[King Imp]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/tmimp67/ohgojira.jpg

Ohhh, Gojira!

[HBox]

IMDB has it called "Untitled J.J. Abrams Project (2008)"
and has this written about the Plot Synopsis:
"a giant monster movie (refferred internally as The Parasite) which is shot using home video cameras from the point of view of real people who are experiencing the attack on New York City "

great, thanks for the info IMDB!!!

Sounds like someone had the bright idea of taking the birthday party tape from Signs and expanding it into a whole movie.

I'm not being sarcastic, that's a brilliant idea.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

Sounds interesting enough and I like Lost as much as the next guy but...

. Basically The Blair Witch Project meets the Godzilla remake.

Oh, good. I love it when they combine two movies I hate.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Sounds like someone had the bright idea of taking the birthday party tape from Signs and expanding it into a whole movie.

I'm not being sarcastic, that's a brilliant idea.

One of my favorite scenes ever, too bad too much alien at the end (of the movie) kinda ruined it. Still good movie.

[foodcourtdruide]

Don't care, but I'm of the agre group that really doesn't give a crap about movies about overhyped 80s toys.

Oh my god, you just summed up my thoughts exactly. I'm 26, so these toys were popular when I was young but I couldn't care LESS about them now.

[cougarjake13]

i was gonna say whats next the thundercats movie

and lo and behold its already been done



http://www.brutesquad.com/Movies/Thundercats/thundercats2.JPG

[LordJezo]

The trailer has been leaked:

http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=4727&src=book

It's not the best quality but it gets the point across.

[lleeder]

I saw this preview and wasn't as impressed as everyone else. The hype in my head for it was better than the actual preview.

[TooLowBrow]

I saw this preview and wasn't as impressed as everyone else. The hype in my head for it was better than the actual preview.

my thought exactly

[PapaBear]

Don't care, but I'm of the agre group that really doesn't give a crap about movies about overhyped 80s toys.

Yup, that about sums it up for me as well.

Talk to me when the Wachowski's "Speed Racer" is released.
For me, it would be Ultraman.

http://www.thefakelife.com/blog/uploaded_images/Ultraman2-721261.jpg

[cougarjake13]

The trailer has been leaked:

http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=4727&src=book

It's not the best quality but it gets the point across.

I saw this preview and wasn't as impressed as everyone else. The hype in my head for it was better than the actual preview.

i agree lleeder, i think all the build up from reading this thread got me more than the actual preview

and i saw nothing to insinuate that it was voltron, how did everyone else come to that conclusion ???

[celery]

HD versions of the trailer are up on Apple's site:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/11808/hd/

[Furtherman]

From unfiction:

I just wanted to let you know about something I saw at a warehouse sale called Frank & Son's here in Southern California. Basically they sell collectible stuff like cards, comics, toys, etc. It is like a mini convention hall every wed and saturday.

Anyway, I was at a large booth where they sell movie posters. One of the posters there had a snapshot of the statue of liberty overlooking the city of new york. The statue was missing it's head and at the top in large white letters it said "Monstrous". The lower right corner had in smaller white letters, 1-18-08.

Fake? I dunno but that is what I saw. I also snapped some cell phone pics and if possible i'll try to upload them.

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=9279&thumb=1&sid=86784960cb94f25e6fb23299f9c91642

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=9281&sid=86784960cb94f25e6fb23299f9c91642


http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=9280&sid=86784960cb94f25e6fb23299f9c91642

[MadMatt]

Furtherman: Is that a picture of Bigfoot or footage of Kennedy being shot?

[Furtherman]

Loch Ness Monster. Nessie for pete's sake!

[cougarjake13]

you sure its not from roswell ???

[Radioguy]

Why the secrecy about the title unless it's a remake of some kind? Then again, I see no Toho logo on the credits trailer, and there probably would be if it were one of their characters.

With the hype,it's going to be a little bit of a letdown if it really is something 100% original.

[tbagnu]

For me, it would be Ultraman.

http://www.thefakelife.com/blog/uploaded_images/Ultraman2-721261.jpg


an ultraman movie would fuckin' rawk!!!!

[Furtherman]

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/070725/poster_l.jpg

As for the monster itself, contrary to Internet speculation, it isn't a parasite, and it ain't a colossal Asian robot, either. (Some suspected Abrams was mounting a live-action version of the Japanese anime/manga classic Voltron. Nope.) For more teasers, visit Abrams' new site, www.1-18-08.com. To be continued, for sure...


From the looks of the poster, the Statue of Liberty's head seems to have been knocked off by something crashing into downtown N.Y.

It really is what it looked like those weeks after 9/11.

[MadMatt]

Why the secrecy about the title unless it's a remake of some kind? Then again, I see no Toho logo on the credits trailer, and there probably would be if it were one of their characters.

With the hype,it's going to be a little bit of a letdown if it really is something 100% original.

They are going for a "Guerilla Marketing" type of campaign - use speculation, gossip, and Internet action to drum up excitement for the project. They are using an intentional lack of info to draw in the public and allow the public's natural curiosity increase to the fervor.

IMO the letdown would be if the movie is a remake. Hollywood is full of remakes; I want more original content.

[MadMatt]

From the looks of the poster, the Statue of Liberty's head seems to have been knocked off by something crashing into downtown N.Y.

It really is what it looked like those weeks after 9/11.

OK, I'm starting to really get into this.

If you go to the website (http://www.1-18-08.com/), look at the timestamps on the pictures.

The first picture is at 12:01am - everything is cool.

The last picture is at 1:24am - apparently there is chaos and you see a Soldier in the middle of the picture.

This HAS to be some sort of major event if there is a Military response within 1.5 hours of "the event." It was either an expected event or something that was being "tracked" by the government.

How else could the government establish a Military presence in NYC in such a short amount of time?

[Furtherman]

How else could the government establish a Military presence in NYC in such a short amount of time?


There are the national guard soldiers you see at Grand Central and the Port Authority with uniforms similar to the one in the picture.

Or, if this thing crash landed in NYC - from outer space? - we saw it coming and had time to deploy troops.

[MadMatt]

There are the national guard soldiers you see at Grand Central and the Port Authority with uniforms similar to the one in the picture.

Or, if this thing crash landed in NYC - from outer space? - we saw it coming and had time to deploy troops.

OK - I haven't been in NYC since about 1987, so I wasn't aware of the NG troops. Makes sense though; I'm a tool.

However, I was thinking about the alien angle - we were tracking the UFO as it approached from space and the Military prepared for the worst. And/Or somebody found out that aliens were already here, the aliens realized their cover was blown, and they started a preemptive strike.

If you look at any of the other websites, there seems to be some kind of alien component. There is some kind of text that looks like it is either a code or an alien language.

[Furtherman]

A larger version of the poster. (http://www.comingsoon.net/imageGallery/imageGallery.php?large_image=hr_1-18-08_1.jpg&id=21621)

And it looks like there is a military presence already in the city.

Looks like whatever crashes into the city is spherical shaped.

[Tall_James]

This viral website is confirmed to be tied into the movie. (http://www.slusho.jp/)

If you're interested in what the movie may be about, check out this....

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[Freitag]

This viral website is confirmed to be tied into the movie. (http://www.slusho.jp/)



Starving. We got any cold beverages back there, Earl?



They are now saying it's called "Overnight", which is actually a good name... what happened "overnight" in New York City.

It's weird, because Abrams has always been very L.A.-centric in his productions, I think.

I think I could get into this; I wasn't that inspired by War of the Worlds.

[Freitag]

Theory one - if those ARE military helicopters, then whatever happens to the Statue is POST explosions in the city - note the falling debris from the neck/shoulder area on the poster - whatever took her head off JUST happened.

Theory two - those are news helicopters, NOT Army choppers.

Three - anyone notice the wake from Ellis Island to the city?

Four - isn't the Statue facing the wrong way? Sh's facing towards the city. She faces out towards the ocean, I thought.

[spadanko]

This viral website is confirmed to be tied into the movie. (http://www.slusho.jp/)

If you're interested in what the movie may be about, check out this....

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wow nice

[King Imp]

I'm confused. I just watched that theory video where they talked about this Slusho. I didn't recall ever seeing that in the actual trailer, so I went back and watched it again in HD. What the hell are these people talking about? I didn't see one single shot of anything called Slusho. If anything, everyone seemed to be drinking beer out of bottles.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I'm confused. I just watched that theory video where they talked about this Slusho. I didn't recall ever seeing that in the actual trailer, so I went back and watched it again in HD. What the hell are these people talking about? I didn't see one single shot of anything called Slusho. If anything, everyone seemed to be drinking beer out of bottles.

I'm still trying to find pictures of the other posters (the hand and shadow ones)

The more I'm finding out about the movie, the more I don't think I want to see it. (I could be turned around, I still don't know much at all about it)

[BrooklynKat]

They are filming at least part of this movie outside of my boyfriend's apt in downtown Manhattan (close to the financial district). The street signage said it was for a movie code name "Cheese" but one of the guys working on it spilled that it was for Cloverfield.

They are filming with really large paramilitary jeeps that are circling the area. I guess it fits in with that post-apocalyptic poster. If I catch them filming again I'll try to post some pics.

[Redding]

i would not be shocked if those posters other then the original teaser poster are just fanmade ones....i dont believe that guys ideas for a second

[Johnny Manf]

If that Slusho thing is correct about some monster being attracted to the people who drank it then that might be the worst idea I ever heard. I pray thats not true.

[King Imp]

If that Slusho thing is correct about some monster being attracted to the people who drank it then that might be the worst idea I ever heard. I pray thats not true.

Plus, I thought I heard the guy saying his theory is that Slusho is people. If that's true, then can they rip off Soylent Green any more?

[MadMatt]

Plus, I thought I heard the guy saying his theory is that Slusho is people. If that's true, then can they rip off Soylent Green any more?

Seriously, the huge destructive monster was already waaaay over the top in Soylent Green, so there isn't any reason to do it again.

:bye:

j/k

I don't know where they are getting this Slusho BS from anyway. I mean some of the Cloverfield related sites are linked to a Slusho site, but where do they get that it's made of people?

Plus, if the monster attacks people because they drank Slusho because it is made of people, wouldn't the monster just "cut out the middle man" and attack people? It is a retarded "extra step."

[King Imp]

Plus, I thought I heard the guy saying his theory is that Slusho is people. If that's true, then can they rip off Soylent Green any more?

Seriously, the huge destructive monster was already waaaay over the top in Soylent Green, so there isn't any reason to do it again.

I kinda had a feeling that was coming as I typed that out. Very good nonetheless. :smile:

I'm still hung up on this supposed video that according to Capt. Theory is loaded with people drinking Slusho. The only possible point in the actual trailer is some girl is drinking something out of a straw, but even then you never get to see the cup.

[MadMatt]

I kinda had a feeling that was coming as I typed that out. Very good nonetheless. :smile:

I'm still hung up on this supposed video that according to Capt. Theory is loaded with people drinking Slusho. The only possible point in the actual trailer is some girl is drinking something out of a straw, but even then you never get to see the cup.

:lol:

Yeah, I don't get the Slusho thing either - I didn't see it anywhere on the video.

As I mentioned earlier, the only relation to Slusho is that some of the Cloverfield sites link to the slusho site.

[Johnny Manf]

The Slusho thing has to be made up.
I cant imagine them making that an actual storyline.
They're probably getting a good laugh at all the shit people have been making up.

[MadMatt]

The Slusho site was updated recently - it has a ton of stuff on it now (http://www.slusho.jp/).

The "History" section is the weirdest. Something about an ingredient from the ocean that turns you into a "whale." And giant robots that create a new flavor mix? The damn thing makes very little sense.

Take a look and help me out here...

[MadMatt]

FYI - this page has most of the links all in one place. It's a pretty good resource for info. Check it out (http://www.squidoo.com/cloverfieldmovie/).

[Doctor Manhattan]

Any word on this movie?

It opens in 3 months and we still don't have the name?

Paul O mentioned it might be "Overnight" but we still don't have an offical name or much info on it? It's a very interesting way to do it, but how close it too close for Paramount Pictures?

[Ted_Baxter]

There's a new viral website up that's supposed to be connected with the movie. You need to choose the English option as none of the other options work:

www.tagruato.jp (http://www.tagruato.jp/)

[Furtherman]

I have seen the trailer for the monster movie coming from producer JJ Abrams on January 18, 2008. The trailer, which was dated last week and lasts 2 minutes and 16 seconds, will debut in front of Beowulf on November 16th, and it's supposed to be when the title is announced. The version of the trailer I saw had the title attached at the end, so unless this title card was a temporary placeholder for the real title, this movie is called... wait for it... (http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=12367)

[Coach_Mac]

I never saw Godzilla or King Kong and I hated Transformers so this type of movie doesn't interest me but because of Lost, I'll watch anything JJ Abrams is involved with.

[CruelCircus]

If that Slusho thing is correct about some monster being attracted to the people who drank it then that might be the worst idea I ever heard. I pray thats not true.

How about the premise of the delightfully awful "The Stuff" which starred Garrett Morris?

A tasty new dessert sensation is nearly addictive, and is actually an alien substance that turns its eaters into mindless, killer, zombies!

[underdog]

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[Doctor Manhattan]

Oh, it's not directed by J.J. Abrams. For some reason I thought it was.

[MadMatt]

Is this going to be a big budget, sci-fi version of 'Blair Witch Project'?

I really hope it is better than that.

[King Imp]

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Dear God, that audio was awful! I think I caught like two words in the whole thing.

[YourAmishDaddy]

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[S0S]

Does Paul O. have any info on this movie?

[YourAmishDaddy]

Haven't heard much from Paul on it. I think he mentioned it for a minute a few weeks ago, that was it.

Expect the updates to get more rapid soon. A full HD trailer at Apple should be up by Monday or Tuesday if it follows precedent. Also some of the backstories and extras for all who have followed it so far should get going pretty soon. i.e. the Myspace pages, Tagruato and Slusho sites.

[JackStraw]

Yeah. This shit is hitting me hard! A couple months ago when I watched the trailer I had a a panic attack about it later that night. Ron is right about it; it just hits too close to home. Whenever I am in NYC I just feel like some for-real crazy shit could happen at any second, just like they show it in the teaser. As stupid as I feel like viral marketing is, I still cannot avoid this movie! I check out the pictures on the 1/18/08 web sight ALL THE TIME. I have a problem.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Ron is right about it; it just hits too close to home.

Disclaimer: In NO WAY am I trying to lessen what 9/11 means to anyone, especially anyone with a connection to NYC, The Pentagon or Flight 93

This is a movie about a monster attacking NYC. That should take any terrorism angle out of the equation.

Can we just let people tell stories with some kind of fictional drama that happens in New York without bring it back to 9/11.

Unless that is what they are going for, like a fictional terror attack or specific images that are meant to look like 9/11 for no good reason. Then I can see it hitting too close to home. So far I don't see Cloverfield as doing this. I am just afraid it's going to be more like a handheld video version of the Matthew Broderick Godzilla movie

[WampusCrandle]

i have seen the trailer for it and i have looked it up - so what the hell is it? a robot attack? a monster attack? what the hell is it?! i need to know - does anything know what it is? all i know is that i want to see it - 1/8/08

http://www.badastronomy.com/pix/bablog/2007/cloverfield_poster.jpg

[Furtherman]

SEARCH your feelings and you'd find all you need to know.

[Chigworthy]

I saw somewhere in the last few days a link for the first five minutes. Would that be party scene from the trailer? I had heard at one point that the trailer wasn't even in the movie. What the f?

[DiabloSammich]

I have a terrible feeling that the trailer will be more interesting than the movie.

[WampusCrandle]

I have a terrible feeling that the trailer will be more interesting than the movie.

that is probably going to happen, but i am going to see it anyway.

[underdog]

http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61477&highlight=cloverfield

[TheGameHHH]

this movie has suck written all over it. you're all falling for the blair witch project again, minus the pseudo reality gimmick.

[cougarjake13]

wow this must be a different movie than the 1/18/08 threads movie

[Franklyn]

I think it's an attack of alien parasite monsters. Looks like it would have been a great idea but will be overdone for Hollywood. I like a character filming the events but I already find the promotion gimmicky. Honestly though I am hoping it's good. I'd like to be scared again.

[Franklyn]

Just found this scene

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[Chigworthy]

That seems like the same scene that came out a while ago, but maybe with more footage at the end? What the f?

[sailor]

http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61477&highlight=cloverfield

answers here (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62320&highlight=clover%2A)

[chubbyknuckles]

this movie has suck written all over it. you're all falling for the blair witch project again, minus the pseudo reality gimmick.

this movie is complete H-A-C-K! The monster looks like Matthew broderick's Godzilla, its brutal

[cougarjake13]

That seems like the same scene that came out a while ago, but maybe with more footage at the end? What the f?

yeh it looks like basically the same footage with a lil extra at the end

[BoondockSaint]

Fez will not be happy about the shakey cam.

[cougarjake13]

there was a new clip during last nights smackdown that took things a lil further

it had he same statue of liberty head rolling down the street followed by what looked like a giant monster destroying buildings

then it shows people all panicked and a girl looking very sick, something is said about beeing bit and then they show shilouettes behind a curtain and you can see that theres humans and then a few smaler human size monsters chasing them

here it is (http://youtube.com/watch?v=xXUbHR1xtXM&feature=related)

a better look (http://youtube.com/watch?v=FgC2wvTdXK4&feature=related)


possible look of the monsterhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=9KcYrGxsNIQ&feature=related

[sailor]

possible look of the monster link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=9KcYrGxsNIQ&feature=related)

that guy's lisp is so bad it sounds fake.

[JackStraw]

Wow. The first teaser is way better than the first five of the movie. Bummer. I'll still see the movie though.
Also, to clarify my post from the end of last month (a little late I know), when I was pointing out that the teaser hit a little too close to home I was not, at least primarily, talking about a terrorist attack, although it works in the situation. I was simply referring to being with a group of friends/people and having some shit go down to the point where the atmosphere in the room and the city changes in drastic matter in a matter of seconds. I think the teaser captures that feeling, and it creeps me out.

[IamFogHat]

This monster could not look stupider.
http://filmdrunk.com/post.phtml?pk=854

[HBox]

This monster could not look stupider.
http://filmdrunk.com/post.phtml?pk=854

It's not real. Your link says so.

[Tenbatsuzen]

It's not real. Your link says so.

"So, how long have you been a black production artist?"

[Tenbatsuzen]

The whole big monster/little monster/bite/replication/sickness thing makes sense.

[ToLEEdo]

as much as everyone thinks this movie is going to suck. I really want to see it and I think I am really going to enjoy it. I don't know why!

[Bay Ridge Tim]

I have no idea if this movie is going to be good or not, but here's how the Internet reacted:

"J.J. Abrams is making a new movie."
"OMFG! It's going to be awesome!! What's it about?"
"No one knows yet."
"OMFG! It's going to be awesome!!"
"It's codenamed Cloverfield."
"OMFG! It's going to be awesome!!"
"It might be about a big monster attack."
"OMFG! It's going to be awesome!!"
"I think the whole thing is filmed from the point of view of the people being attacked."
"OMFG! It's going to be awesome!!"

[Tenbatsuzen]

People also don't get that JJ didn't direct this. Someone else did.

[Furtherman]

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[King Imp]

Looks like another pic has surfaced.

Could this be the monster? (http://www.wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=3352)

[YourAmishDaddy]

Like SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, but instead of Nazis it’s a giant monster.

This is a handheld camera movie – knowing this and knowing not to sit too close is probably a good thing… but having said that… you can’t sit far enough from the screen to feel safe. As many of you people know, I am in a wheelchair – and while watching movies, I have my breaks on. There was one moment, so unexpected and so intense that I went 3 ft back.



The story of this film is actually beautiful though. When the world goes to fuck, you instantly think about the person you love that you don’t know is OK or not. That’s this story. Rob and his friends are just trying to get off the island, when a call comes… Beth is somewhere… she can’t move, she’s bleeding and she needs help. And oddly… 911 is busy.

This group of friends sets off through the biggest sort of hell you can imagine to save Beth. Characters die. Shit goes horribly horribly wrong – and it rules!

There’s no score, there’s no rules, there feels like there’s no script and no movie. It feels found, but it is so huge that you can’t ever really believe that… but handheld film just has never had a story of something this fantastical or huge happen. The movie is a landmark genre film. A true milestone in film.


It is all at once art, commercial and grotesquely gleefully gargantuan.

This frankly launches two giant film careers at once. As of this second, I will see and eagerly anticipate every film that J.J. Abrams produces. This sort of stepping back from a genre convention and reinvention is EXACTLY what needs to be done. It isn’t simply going, “Oh, I can make a better Godzilla movie,” but the audacity of saying I’m going to tell that story from one of the most loathed film approaches – the found footage – and simply make the most fucking amazing found tape ever. It won’t just be what it is, but the characters and the story and the emotion and the scope and the journey that the tape takes us on. I can’t wait to see what’s next.

Then there’s Matt Reeves, I don’t know this guy. But I’ll tell you what. You’re gonna mark his name after this. He just came out with a film about as SUNDANCE as you could imagine. This is like an INDIE film – that you’d dream Spielberg would make. Remember the beard’s WAR OF THE WORLDS? Now just imagine that, but with the disarming nature of handheld photography. Where if the camera got dropped and suddenly you’re looking the other way… you don’t see the seams. There’s no backlot, this isn’t two blocks at a time… it’s fucking Manhattan being torn to fuck and they’re just smack dab in midtown.... then there’s the fucking military… and they are on target, and buildings get hit, shit is going everywhere – and the man directing this apocalypse is Matt Reeves and the planning to just deliver what this spectacle is – is daunting. But sir, BRAVO!

Folks – CLOVERFIELD is worth the obsession, worth the months I’ve had to put up with fans wondering what the hell it was – worth having to deal with reporters asking me what it was – and I didn’t know either. This is a towering movie. A complete reinvention of the disaster movie, the giant monster movie and even the love story. I absolutely love this film and the only thought I had when it was over was how I wanted to watch it 5 more times today.

I want to see the details, I want to watch this film once I’m so familiar with it that I can appreciate the complexity of the frames and the shots. To try to pull the film apart – but I don’t think you’ll be able to. It is just that fucking good!"



Harry Knowles AICN.


If you don't want to know details about the movie before viewing, do not click this. I weeded out as many spoilers as possible.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35236

By the way. None of the pictures that have been posted in this thread are accurate. None of them are the monster.

[chubbyknuckles]

this movie has suck written all over it. you're all falling for the blair witch project again, minus the pseudo reality gimmick.

I completely agree, and yet the hype and marketing is f'n huge. I went to a local bar and they had fucking Clovcerfield coasters! waaaaaaaaaaaay overhyped.

[Furtherman]

As many of you people know, I am in a wheelchair – and while watching movies, I have my breaks on.

I didn't know that guy was in a wheelchair. Was he always?


That's a glowing review... and I like the premise. Not just a monster movie.

[YourAmishDaddy]

I didn't know that guy was in a wheelchair. Was he always?


That's a glowing review... and I like the premise. Not just a monster movie.

Nah. Knowles was lugging about a half ton cart of convention items comic books and merchandise one day and he was crushed by it after falling pushing it up a ramp in 94 I believe.


Short of giving details out myself. And I know I'm no Roger Ebert, but I can assure you this film is not run of the mill, or disappointing. The simplicity in how the film was shot. The lack of a pretentious flow of the story, where most modern horror/action films try to jam the obvious down your throats. The way it's so stripped down, and just basically how any five friends you or I may have would act is why this film is so well done.

I admit Harry Knowles is orgasmically endorsing this movie. I know it sounds like he's overboard in his assessment but sometimes you just run across something that is the real thing.

This isn't some movie where you get some creature, and people are analyzing it's motives, and are trying to understand it. It isn't a film you get where it tries to get you to empathize with the creature at all. In fact the monster is only part of what the experience is.

This is simply one thing. A big fucking bad assed monster shows up, and tears Manhattan to pieces. And through handheld camera footage of several scared shitless kids it's like Reeves and Abrams picked you up, and dropped you in the center of it all.

[TheMojoPin]

Oh, fuck Harry Knowles and his cronies. They rave about anything that gets "leaked" to them, or that they think they're getting a "scoop" on. If a studio assured him that only he was getting to look at this plate of steaming hot dog shit and NOBODY else, he'd give it a rave review.

[Furtherman]

Mojo hates the handicapped.

[YourAmishDaddy]

No leaks. The film has been in advanced screening since Monday.

[JustJon]

There's a NY party next Thurs "Rob's Going Away Party" if people wanna scope it. Just check out the Cloverfield myspace and RSVP.

[TheMojoPin]

No leaks. The film has been in advanced screening since Monday.

Same difference. If he or one of his sources gets to see something before the filthy masses, they typically love it. Then when something comes out and tanks and everyone hates it, they say they saw a "rough cut" that didn't resemble the final product at all.

[topless_mike]

started watching the newer trailer, but decided to organize my paperclips during it.
looks terrible. looks like its going to be lots of shakey camera and fast shots to hide poor effects and poor film making.

more reasons why hollywood should just fold and become a shopping center. we are better off with them on strike.

[YourAmishDaddy]

Same difference. If he or one of his sources gets to see something before the filthy masses, they typically love it. Then when something comes out and tanks and everyone hates it, they say they saw a "rough cut" that didn't resemble the final product at all.

As far as modern cinema goes. I'm probably on the upper scale when it comes to being jaded. First off. The "hype" surrounding this film people forget has been fueled by fan speculation more than anything. The marketing of it virtually just began in December. All that was given was a teaser trailer. People went out on their own and found the information. The Myspaces, the websites, the videos. From the very beginning the fact that this wasn't some "here's a trailer exposing everything about this movie, watch it" was a great indicator.

The only thing I can tell anyone is see the film. It truly is a great movie, and one great night out. All that needs to be said is it's a great film. And you will not be disappointed. In all of the nonsense that is what movies are these days here's a simple little 30 million dollar movie that guys who have actually spent time thinking about what sucks in movies and didn't do is worth it.

[JimBeam]

There are a few links to other sites discussing this movie at FilmDrunk.com.

A few of the sites have supposed spoilers but they sound kinda lame/misleading.

One of them goes on a tangent about the time the events take place and blah blah blah.

They describe what the monster is supposed to look like and if it's true I think it's gonna suck.

The source for some of the spoilers is supposed production notes that were leaked online.

Could just be more of their marketing nonsense though.

The thing I dont get about the supposed oil rig collapse is if this monster has no problem knocking the head off of the SOL and hitting these buildings why does he just upend the rig w/out showing itself ?

Again that's a lame jump if the 2 things are indeed tied together.

[JimBeam]

Here's another supposed " real " image of the monster :

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/10889

It seems to match the descriptions in the " production notes " but also quite possible somebody made it based on the features.

[WampusCrandle]

Here's another supposed " real " image of the monster :

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/10889

It seems to match the descriptions in the " production notes " but also quite possible somebody made it based on the features.

i dont know, it's kinda cool looking, but i cant really see that thing in a movie. :unsure:

[IamFogHat]

Wasn't this dumb movie supposed to have a different name, like Cloverfield was a secret cover name? Isn't it coming out this week? Am I totally off on this?

[Knowledged_one]

Wasn't this dumb movie supposed to have a different name, like Cloverfield was a secret cover name? Isn't it coming out this week? Am I totally off on this?

way off

[topless_mike]

Here's another supposed " real " image of the monster :

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/10889

It seems to match the descriptions in the " production notes " but also quite possible somebody made it based on the features.

somebody on that site said it best. i like the scrotum on the side of its face.

again, dumb fucking movie.

[King Imp]

While all the hype has me curious and I will definitely check it out on TV (no way I spend money on this), I still think the idea behind it is ridiculous. I mean, just like the Blair Witch Project, it's ludicrous to me that people in extreme states of terror would be running around calmly recording stuff. I would have dropped the camera and been so long gone it wouldn't be funny if the SOL head came rolling down the street.

[IrishAlkey]

While all the hype has me curious and I will definitely check it out on TV (no way I spend money on this), I still think the idea behind it is ridiculous. I mean, just like the Blair Witch Project, it's ludicrous to me that people in extreme states of terror would be running around calmly recording stuff. I would have dropped the camera and been so long gone it wouldn't be funny if the SOL head came rolling down the street.

9-11?

[King Imp]

Those people didn't have their priorities straight either.

[HBox]

Here's my review in the form of a music video:

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[Furtherman]

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[topless_mike]

well, today's the day.
if you are going, i want an honest review- dont skew it toward the lovers or haterz.

[TheMojoPin]

I wish more monsters were named after gay cigarettes.

[Knowledged_one]

well, today's the day.
if you are going, i want an honest review- dont skew it toward the lovers or haterz.

But to echo this please put the review in spolier text as some may want to go in fresh like Frank Costanza

[Furtherman]

I'm going to see it tonight. And I'm pretty sure how people are going to recieve it. Love it or hate it.

They'll hate it because the monster's origins aren't fully explained and there is not enough of the monster overall.

or

They'll love it because the central story is about the people involved in the attack and how they'll survive and act with one another when it seems like the end of the world.

I'm hoping the movie is the latter, in which I'll proabably have a decent review.

[Judge Smails]

Someone posted a cell phone pic of the monster. Looks like a pissed-off Dr. Zoidberg.

http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/4/1/16/f_MGP001am_54a8e8a.jpg

[boonanas]

I just saw it this morning. It was genuinely terrifying.

Did anyone see at the very end when they were at Coney Island, there was something huge that slammed into the water and made a big splash near the Statue?

Here is someone's post on the IMDB message board that I just found, someone else saw it too so I'm not alone.

":did anyone else see the last scene when the couple is out and they are looking at the ocean. on the right mid corner of the film. you can see a pod landng in the ocean i think its the monster but was wondering if anyone else saw it cause im pretty sure thats what it was, the monster landing on earth."

That's what I thought too. Maybe that was something from outer space that came and evolved within a couple of weeks in the ocean into that huge motherfucker. I was glad I saw that because it kind of explained the origin of the monster.

Also, the sound that the parasite made when they slammed the door on it after they first got away from them in the tunnel was creepy as hell.

Like a lot of people, I felt sick after the movie.

Some overheard statements from the fat scum that were walking out "That sucked. 'Dey shoulda shown the whole city bein' nuked."

[WampusCrandle]

Someone posted a cell phone pic of the monster. Looks like a pissed-off Dr. Zoidberg.

http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/4/1/16/f_MGP001am_54a8e8a.jpg

now i need to see this movie: i love dr. zoidberg!

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/12/zoidberg.jpg

it is almost a perfect match

[cogsdoc]

My review, without any spoilers:
I went into the movie wondering whether I really wanted to see Godzilla version 2008. But I was turned in the first 3 minutes of the attack. It was thrilling, really had me tense throughout. But the best part about it was the realism, I found myself constantly thinking "how did they make that look so authentic?" I must warn though, anyone still having a difficult time coping with 9/11 may have a rough go with this movie at times because of how realistic it is. It was also just short enough not to drag on. I did have some issues with the movie, that I will save till it's out a little longer. But overall, it was great.

[fezident]

Saw it. Liked it a lot.

The crowd, however, was almost ANGRY when it was over. It's the usual case of "too cool for school". It's gay to say you enjoyed something. Everything sucks. Yeah yeah yeah, I get it.

This is a Godzilla movie. Nothing more.
When you go into a movie like this, there's certain things you expect to see, and this movie delivers them.
People running from debris, fire, and falling buildings? CHECK.
Chaos and carnage? CHECK
Loved ones being killed? CHECK.
Scary monster that kills for seemingly no reason? CHECK.
Military trying to evacuate civilians? CHECK.


If you wanna see that stuff. See this movie.

The shakey cam is maddening. No argument there but, that's where entertainment is headed. Look at 24. They actually shoot some of that footage steady and add the shakes & zooms in post. Steadycam is getting phased out.

ALSO,
It's very realistic to think that somebody would keep the camera running. (People record tragedies all the time.) And... they DO address it several times. "I need to record this so people will know how it all went down". Various versions of that line is delivered several times.
Also... there are times when they go into a dark location and the light from the camera is the only light they have. So, the characters really DO have a motivation to keep the thing with them at all times.


Was it SHAWSHANK?
No.
But what is?




I liked CLOVERFIELD. Everybody else can go back to watching TWO AND A HALF MEN or Nascar or whatever the hell else they do with their precious time.



SPOILER:
before the credits roll, when you see Rob and his chick at Coney Island... pay attention to the sky.
and
Stay for the credits. All of them.

[Flea_Man]

It's strange with this movie. People either loved it or hated it completely. When I went (Friday opening), the theater booed at the end. I was astonished that I was the only one who seemed to enjoy it.

I really liked Cloverfield. Did it live up to the months and months of hype? Eh, not that much, but I did think this was a great idea and very well executed. The sound was cranked up to 11 in the theater and so every roar and missile fired made you feel like you were there with them. And THAT's something that's never in movies. A lot of times in movies, you just want cool stuff, but this gave you a sense of realism and connected with the characters.

I loved how this movie was realistic and not "Oh, these guys will solve the mystery of the monster and kill it because they're the main characters and not the government". I also appreciated the fact that the gore was tasteful (if that makes sense) and not over the top.

Hud was easily my favorite character. He was comic relief but a good one. There's always a guy like Hud in every group of friends. I liked how they were stone-faced serious in the tunnel, but Hud kept cracking jokes. In that situation, there would be one person making jokes here and there to try to lighten the mood and ease the tension. Another beautiful touch of realism in the movie.

The movie's conclusion was phenomenal. The scene where Hud turned around and just came face-to-face with another monster was gut wrenching. You're just sitting there, staring this menace right in the face, right alongside Hud, waiting for the monster to make its move. And it did. Scary shit.

The end was great, as it wasn't typical or "Hollywood". The main characters died. If you were in the city, you died with them. Game over. Yet it left room open for a sequel, which I personally can't wait for.

Overall, see the movie and get your own opinion. Solid 8.5/10.

The scariest part of Cloverfield was the trailer for Step Up 2. I almost screamed and hid my eyes.

[LordJezo]

Saw the movie at noon today and it was a really great time. The movie is like a really intense ride, it starts off, throws a bunch of stuff at you, and it ends. The whole thing was done great and if you can say something like this for a movie of this type.. it was the most realistic mega monster movie I have seen.

To all the people who are saying "this movie is terrible, it plays off the fears of 9.11 and uses emotion from that terrible day to make money", you know what, fuck you. What happened on 9.11 looked like it looked because it was real, this movie was going for realism, if shit is blowing up and falling down then it would look just like it did on that day. I don't think this movie is an allegory for terrorism and the monster as al qaeda, it was just a really enjoyable monster flick.

The shaky cam stuff did not bother me at all, I felt like it would have happened the way it did, for the most part. I dont think the person would have dropped the camera, like someone said above with 9.11, people are always filming everything. When you film someone you can feel like you are not there, maybe holding the camera and looking through the lens (or fold out side screen) is a way to escape the horrors of what is going on around you and make yourself believe "hey its just a movie".

The movie left me wanting more because it was shot the way it was and how you only got glimpses of everything. You got tiny little tastes of the chaos that was going on around you, you never spent a long time anywhere and never got to really see everything that there was.

Good times.

[fezident]

The similarities to 9/11 work both ways.
On September 12th, I must've heard 1000 people say "it looked like a hollywood movie" when they were referring to the destruction and the chaos.
When the dust and debris was loping down the narrow city streets, yeah, it did look like 9/11 because... THAT'S WHAT IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE WHEN A SKYSCRAPER COLLAPSES!

Additionally, I think that maybe the characters were initially supposed to think "here we go again... TERRORISM!".
I really hope that 9/11 support groups don't boycott this movie. It's sooo not cashing in on any of the drama of that day. At least, not shamelessly.

[thepaulo]

is on track to have a $47 million weekend which would blow away January records.

[fezident]

47 mill actually sounds low to me.

My buddy and I went to TWO theaters last night and all 6 shows (total) were sold out.
I went back to one this morning and the first two showings were sold out. And there's still all of Sunday to consider.

[Flea_Man]

A quick side note on the 9/11 comparisons: were they there? Without a doubt. Anyone who watched the scene where the building collapses and the people run into the little stores as the streets went pitch black with smoke made the connections. If they didn't, they were foolish. However, I don't think the scene was done to exploit any 9/11 emotions or try to give an extra ground-level view of what it'd be like to be stuck in a 9/11-esque situation. It was just a monster knocking over a building. Any building that gets knocked over will crumble, and then fill the streets with dust and debris.

[TheMojoPin]

This is a Godzilla movie. Nothing more.
When you go into a movie like this, there's certain things you expect to see, and this movie delivers them.

Loved ones being killed? CHECK.
Scary monster that kills for seemingly no reason? CHECK.

What th-?!?

Godzilla always has his reasons. And when he has killed loved ones like this jerkface monster? STOP SLANDERING GODZILLA.

[Flea_Man]

Leave Godzilla Aloooooooooone.

[EddieMoscone]

This movie legitimately made me ill. I had a headache and my stomach was turning after it was done. Every 10 minutes I had to shut my eyes. For me, the camera gimmick and the whole "goverment file" thing was not really needed, it could have been really effective without it. Plus it wouldn't have made me sick.

In the theatre I went to the people sitting right behind me were bitching and screaming refund, and there were a handful of people who actually walked out of the movie. I read one review online that said "the best movie you'll never want to see again". Do those of you that liked it feel the same way?

[cogsdoc]

I know they posted a warning outside of my theater that the movie could cause motion sickness. But it didn't affect me all that much. I spoke to my brother who nearly walked out a few times, and I know his girlfriend had to shut her eyes for a majority. Regardless, I think the movie needs the handheld camera feel, otherwise it would lose a large part of the realism.

[oh_kee_pa]

it seems to be a general consensus that every theater majority of the people hated it. But, I think its because more people expect certain things.

I think they expected a cut to a black president talking to his advisors on how to kill it, and when that didnt happen, or they didnt find out what/who/where this thing came from people get upset because they dont want to think..

Saw it yesterday, loved it, and spent all night online trying to find out more about it.

[cougarjake13]

it seems to be a general consensus that every theater majority of the people hated it. But, I think its because more people expect certain things.

I think they expected a cut to a black president talking to his advisors on how to kill it, and when that didnt happen, or they didnt find out what/who/where this thing came from people get upset because they dont want to think..

Saw it yesterday, loved it, and spent all night online trying to find out more about it.

why do you specify the prez as black ???

[fezident]

The handheld cam thing was a stylistic choice to somehow make this movie different from the 30 Godzilla movies that preceeded it.
Additionally, it also serves as a plot device. We see what the victim sees. We know what he knows, when he knows it.
Finally, it serves as a social commentary. In 2008, nothing is real unless it's being captured on video. The Statue Of Liberty's flaming head rolls down 6th Avenue and all the characters immediate instinct was to pull out their phones and start recording it.
The little bits of info that we DID learn about the creature were obtained ONLY when he pointed his camcorder at OTHER televisions that were broadcasting the destruction.

In the end, it was all done in an effort to make it seem as realistic (by todays standards) as possible in terms of story and style.

[foodcourtdruide]

I saw this movie and I'm incredibly disappointed. This may be a movie with a monster in it, but it's really a love story. It's a really bad love story, with mediocare actors, cheesy dialogue and predictable writing. The action scenes are fun and interesting, but there were a lot of unncessary voyages through the city. This movie was essentially Day After Tomorrow Part II. If you're hoping the writers created an interesting world with a back story, you will be disappointed. If you just want to see stuff blow up, you'll probably like it.

Also, if you get motion sickness or shaky cam will bother you I'd advise you to stay away. My wife got really sick afterwards.

The ending leaves the possibility for a sequal open, which may be the only saving grace. If the sequal is the same story from a military/expert point of view it could be pretty cool. That still doesn't save the movie this criticism: THE STORY SUCKED.

edit: Also, the first 20 minutes are dreadfully boring and slow. Painful.

[foodcourtdruide]

It's strange with this movie. People either loved it or hated it completely. When I went (Friday opening), the theater booed at the end. I was astonished that I was the only one who seemed to enjoy it.

I really liked Cloverfield. Did it live up to the months and months of hype? Eh, not that much, but I did think this was a great idea and very well executed. The sound was cranked up to 11 in the theater and so every roar and missile fired made you feel like you were there with them. And THAT's something that's never in movies. A lot of times in movies, you just want cool stuff, but this gave you a sense of realism and connected with the characters.

I loved how this movie was realistic and not "Oh, these guys will solve the mystery of the monster and kill it because they're the main characters and not the government". I also appreciated the fact that the gore was tasteful (if that makes sense) and not over the top.

Hud was easily my favorite character. He was comic relief but a good one. There's always a guy like Hud in every group of friends. I liked how they were stone-faced serious in the tunnel, but Hud kept cracking jokes. In that situation, there would be one person making jokes here and there to try to lighten the mood and ease the tension. Another beautiful touch of realism in the movie.

The movie's conclusion was phenomenal. The scene where Hud turned around and just came face-to-face with another monster was gut wrenching. You're just sitting there, staring this menace right in the face, right alongside Hud, waiting for the monster to make its move. And it did. Scary shit.

The end was great, as it wasn't typical or "Hollywood". The main characters died. If you were in the city, you died with them. Game over. Yet it left room open for a sequel, which I personally can't wait for.

Overall, see the movie and get your own opinion. Solid 8.5/10.

The scariest part of Cloverfield was the trailer for Step Up 2. I almost screamed and hid my eyes.

I disagree with you on this. The movie was SO Hollywood. The main characters may have died at the end, but they were re-united. In the end, the main character got what he wanted and was the hero. The non-hollywood ending would have been them not finding Beth.

[JesterOfSadness]

They didn't show how the black chick died. Did she really even die?? Who knows.

Some of you need to get the sand out of your vagina, it was a good flick for what it was.

[foodcourtdruide]

They didn't show how the black chick died. Did she really even die?? Who knows.

Some of you need to get the sand out of your vagina, it was a good flick for what it was.

I thought it sucked for what it was.

[fezident]

I thought the movie had a good, strong story.
The main characters get seperated during the chaos, and the boy wants to get back to the girl he loves (who also loves him). Nuthin' wrong with that.
I thought it was cool that they were going "against the grain". Everybody was running away from the destruction, they were going towards it. Etc etc.

Another quasi-interesting thing was, at the beginning of the movie, the dude simply could not think of anything to say as a testimonial. He really didn't want his likeness or voice to be on film. Ironically, his voice and narration would go on to become something historic. The military found his videotape and used it to study the events of the attack. The guy who didn't even think he was good at speaking on camera would become the voice that strategists will review and study for decades to come.
I thought that was a nice touch.

[foodcourtdruide]

I thought the movie had a good, strong story.
The main characters get seperated during the chaos, and the boy wants to get back to the girl he loves (who also loves him). Nuthin' wrong with that.
I thought it was cool that they were going "against the grain". Everybody was running away from the destruction, they were going towards it. Etc etc.

Another quasi-interesting thing was, at the beginning of the movie, the dude simply could not think of anything to say as a testimonial. He really didn't want his likeness or voice to be on film. Ironically, his voice and narration would go on to become something historic. The military found his videotape and used it to study the events of the attack. The guy who didn't even think he was good at speaking on camera would become the voice that strategists will review and study for decades to come.
I thought that was a nice touch.

Did you think Day After Tomorrow was a good strong story? Because that's essentially what you just described (replace boy/girl love with father/son love). I don't think it's a good story. I think it's cliche' and lame.

[JesterOfSadness]

Ok we get the point, you don't like the movie.

[fezident]

THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW was executed poorly. It had summer popcorn flick written all over it. CLOVERFIELD was done in a much more palatable manner.

I mean, ANY disaster movie is pretty much a one-note play. And 99.9999 percent of all stories have been told. All that changes is the characters & setting. Eragon is IDENTICAL to Star Wars. Eragon sucked, Star Wars is a classic. Every single underdog sports movie is the same. The only thing that changes is the sport.

I, for one, am glad that the movie didn't cut away to a war-room of a bunch of bickering Army Generals who "don't know what the hell we're dealing with, Mr. President!".
I liked that they chose to keep it nice and compact. This was the story of these four kids who aren't all that different from you or me.

[foodcourtdruide]

Ok we get the point, you don't like the movie.

I'm just responding to people's comments.

[foodcourtdruide]

THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW was executed poorly. It had summer popcorn flick written all over it. CLOVERFIELD was done in a much more palatable manner.

I mean, ANY disaster movie is pretty much a one-note play. And 99.9999 percent of all stories have been told. All that changes is the characters & setting. Eragon is IDENTICAL to Star Wars. Eragon sucked, Star Wars is a classic. Every single underdog sports movie is the same. The only thing that changes is the sport.

I, for one, am glad that the movie didn't cut away to a war-room of a bunch of bickering Army Generals who "don't know what the hell we're dealing with, Mr. President!".
I liked that they chose to keep it nice and compact. This was the story of these four kids who aren't all that different from you or me.

I have to check with jest of sadness to see if I'm allowed to respond to you. Is it ok if I do jester?

[JesterOfSadness]

Edit: Fuck it, not worth having an internet fight.

[foodcourtdruide]

Edit: Fuck it, not worth having an internet fight.

Congrats on taking the high road. My wife always tells me I'm oversensitive and defensive :)

EDIT: lol Mod Quote!

[SinA]

it's an allegory on the US coping with 9/11 devastation the way godzilla was an allegory for japenese film makers to deal with hiroshima.

obviously i'm not smart enough to come up with that on my own, but i think it's a plausible explanation.

personally, i loved it. i'm not sure if it will be like the departed where i love it immediately, but in time realize how it missed the mark after the excitement fades.

for what it was, a bad-ass 21st century monster movie, i thought it was really good. the action obviously was exciting, the realism of the confusion in the streets was surprisingly believable given how surreal the contest was. i like when movies use technology accurately as this one did, not forcing crazy future video holograms or pretending that people still use phone booths.

good popcorn thriller, not trying to get an oscar for story or acting...

[CountryBob]

Why does everything have to be an allegory? Cant people just make a monster movie and not have a political or humanitarian agenda? Just askin.

BTW.. In fantasy land I would have liked a non-shaky version of this movie to watch. No angle of I have to video everything with a handycam. I felt weird all day after watching it.

I liked this movie though - we need more like em but just less shakiness.

[TheMojoPin]

Why does everything have to be an allegory? Cant people just make a monster movie and not have a political or humanitarian agenda? Just askin.

When it comes to pretty much all of the truly classic horror films....yes. It goes a long way as to why people remember them.

[fezident]

it's an allegory on the US coping with 9/11 devastation the way godzilla was an allegory for japenese film makers to deal with hiroshima.




Hmmm. Is that accurate? I mean, there were disaster movies long before 9/11.

[TheMojoPin]

Hmmm. Is that accurate? I mean, there were disaster movies long before 9/11.

Yes, and the truly classic ones are usually allegories or metaphors for major fears of the time.

[fezident]

I'm fascinated by this theory. I'd like a little more detail. Here or as a PM.
Kick ass.

[keithy_19]

This was the story of these four kids who aren't all that different from you or me.

I'm part hobbit. Arent all that different my ass.:furious:

[TheMojoPin]

I'm fascinated by this theory. I'd like a little more detail. Here or as a PM.
Kick ass.

Well, it's like what was pointed out with Godzilla originally created as an allegory for the Japanese perspective of the nuclear bomb droppings at the end of WW2.

Many have argued that the original King Kong is either pro or anti-racism

The Cold War monster movies are almost all reflective of our anxiety over nuclear weapons or the Soviets (fear of the collective, soulless hive mind that the USSR was percevied as...the Blob, zombies, etc.).

[Flea_Man]

Edit: Fuck it, not worth having an internet fight.

:clap::clap::clap:

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I have to say that I went into the movie with lowered expectations and I disliked it when I left the theater, but thinking back on it I realized it was a pretty good movie except for the last 3-6 minutes. Wow, I said nothing.

[LordJezo]

Stolen from another board in which a guy stole from the IMDB board. It takes all the ARG stuff and puts it into one location. Gives you some real good back story and origins of the monster. Also a theory on the final scene that everyone is debating. I look forward to reading the manga prequel that is coming out.


OK, it took me a while to do this, but this is all the stuff for the viral marketing/backstory into one post. There are sites that you can go to for more information, but for the people who don't feel like looking through everything, here it is. There a few other minor things that I've left out. There's a lot of info, so I hope I organized it okay. Also, for the stuff that's not proven (maybe heavily implied, but not proven), I've marked as Theory. Feel free to add to this. All credit goes to the sites sourced at the bottom, where you can find a little more information, and also to the people who helped translate and transcript everything for that site. Hope this helps, and try to keep this bumped, please.

UPDATE: I've put in another theory or two that were mentioned, and a little more about the FDA approval of Slusho.


__________________________________________________ _____________________________
From JJ Abrams (the producer): The monster has been sleeping beneath the ocean for 1000s of years.

Tagruato is a corporation that owns many different things.

Slusho is a sister corporation for Tagruato.

Slusho is a drink that is sweeping the Asian nation.

Tidowave is sort of environmental group that is against Tagruato, saying that Tagruato pollutes oceans, etc.

Tagruato has at least one deep sea drilling station.

Slusho uses Tagruato to deep sea drill for their secret ingredient (that they dub “Seabed's Nectar”) to their drink

Tidowave warns on their website that Slusho is not FDA approved, and not to drink it.

Theory: The secret ingredient is presumably from the monster

Tagruato’s drilling station (named Chuai) is destroyed. You can see a news clip here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NfTWm1nCgLc. Note: I shouldn't have to put this, but for any idiots out there, this news clip is obviously made for the viral marketing, and is not actually a news clip.

Tagruato blames Tidowave for the attack, Tidowave denies the attack.

Theory: Tidowave attacked attacked the drilling station, which woke the monster up, and the monster then destroyed the station. OR the drilling woke up the monster, and the monster destroyed the station.

Tidowave speaks of staging an "event" on their website.

Theory: This could be the destruction of the "oil drilling rig".

Slusho and "Seabed's Nectar" is approved by the FDA.

Tagruato owns a subsidiary called Bold Futura. They launched a satellite (called the Hatsui satellite) that collects data and takes pictures of the ocean (or the ocean bed).

Theory: The satellite located the monster from which they gained the nectar for Slusho.

The Tagruato website had this posted: “In their latest gesture to reach out to fellow man, Tagruato used the Hatsui satellite to try to identify a rogue piece that is thought to have fallen off of the Japanese Government’s “ChimpanzIII” satellite. Although Hatsui’s work has not yet been able to confirm the identity of the fallen piece, Tagruato scientists and engineers are busily trying to track and recover the fragment. According to Hatsui data, it disappeared into the Atlantic Ocean late last week.”

Theory: This is what is seen in the ending seen from Rob's camera.

Alternate Theory to drilling/destruction of drilling station woke up monster: The crash from the satellite awoke the monster.

A memo containing financial data for the drilling station was sent as an e-mail for people who ordered Slusho products, with the words "Americans, No oil here! They must have known before they built- The Whistleblower” written at the top.

(This backs up the theory that the drilling is just a front to get nectar from the monster)

__________________________________________________ ______________________

JAMIE & TEDDY STUFF- This is another tie-in to the movie. Site: www.jamieandteddy.com (password: jllovesth). The site contains webvids from Jamie to her boyfriend Teddy. The following recaps all of the webvids.

Jamie and Teddy know Jason, Lily, and Marlena.

Jamie and Teddy are dating

Teddy goes off to do something far away. We aren’t told what

Jamie makes webvids for Teddy to watch while he's away.

Teddy sends Jamie a gift, but tells her not to open it until December.

We learn that Teddy has not called Jamie, and is usually pretty good about calling her.

December rolls around, and Jamie opens the gift. She receives a Slusho hat, what seems to be a sample of "Seabed's Nectar", and a message from Teddy:

The message reads: “Jamie, listen to me, alright this is not a joke. If you're hearing this before we've spoken, then it means that I've been captured by the company called Tagruato. Ok, TAG-RU-ATO. Now listen. You, this is important. Don't call the authorities. It'll screw everything up. Just sit tight and wait to hear from Randy. He knows to call you. We're on their station ok, and it's like they've found something, or they're making something, but the point is, I can't, I'm not going to be calling you again. You're not gonna hear from me again. I just want you to wait for Randy… he will explain”

Theory: This implies that Teddy is working for Tidowave.

Theory: Teddy is on the oil rigging station undercover, but has been found out by Tagruato.

Jamie decides to call Teddy's bluff and calls Tagruato, which denies Teddy's affiliation, saying they've never heard of him. Jamie immediately gets a call from an unknown number speaking a foreign language, who she hangs up on because she can’t understand them.

Jamie now thinks Teddy is cheating on her for not returning her calls.
Jamie is angry.

Jamie eats "Seabed's Nectar".

Jamie says that the stuff makes her "see everything a lot clearer now".

Jamie cuts the head off a teddy bear to show she is angry at Teddy.

Transcript from Jamie's last video: "Love you haha, I am finally over you and you know what, I feel like a whole new woman and it’s like it’s gonna be the first night of the rest of my life and and Lily is putting this thing together, and I’m gonna go to it and I don’t know why I just soo like I’m like uh the happiest the happiest I’ve ever been in my whole life and I don’t know I have like MASSIVE amounts of energy I’m gonna have MASSIVE amounts of sex with Schneider and it’s just gonna be great and I just think you should say goodbye to these breast (kisses breasts) cause you’re never gonna see them again and look here (slaps butt) I think you’re pathetic."

Note: Jamie can be seen at Rob’s party passed out on a couch.

End of Jamie’s webvids.

Alternate Theory to Seabed's Nectar comes from the monster: Seabed's Nectar is what made and\or transformed the monster. This could be evidenced by the fact that Jamie has gone crazy and feels powerful, etc.

Tagruato puts out a memo that reads:

"{TO:} Level 1 Temporary Provision Staff Member
{FROM:} Judgement Council
{SUBJECT: Trusting Those Out of Our Sight}
{DATE:}11/24/2007


Effective Immediately!

Over the next few days, because of the incident that took place, starting now all letters to the outside will first
pass through our communication center, or they will not go out. Level 1 Personnel? They will remain where they are,
making certain to read the message from start to finish. (How will they know it is authentic, this message that is
dispatched everywhere? When it is inscribed by the ?.)

In addition, working hard/employment rusted overtime? As for the employees, they will be made to wait in their
appointed lodging facility until told otherwise.

If one witnesses an act of misconduct, and neglects to report it to the Council, Chuai’s department bureau will enforce
principles and regard it as a violation. There will be no exceptions."

The back reads" Americans,

The Chuai station hides a dark secret. Good people are going missing. Expect further communication in the near future. - the Whistle Blower"

Theory: The incident is the discovery of Teddy as a double agent for Tidowave.
Theory: Teddy is "The Whistleblower" mentioned earlier

END OF JAMIE/TEDDY STUFF

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I have to say that I went into the movie with lowered expectations and I disliked it when I left the theater, but thinking back on it I realized it was a pretty good movie except for the last 3-6 minutes. Wow, I said nothing.

I just want to re-emphasize how little I have to contribute intellectually to anything on this Earth let alone a messageboard once midnight hits. I stink.

[fezident]

I appreciate all the cutting and pasting but, I simply couldn't follow any of that.

[LordJezo]

I appreciate all the cutting and pasting but, I simply couldn't follow any of that.

Start with this and go on from there:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NfTWm1nCgLc

It's all part of the big backstory that Cloverfield has, the part that most people know nothing about and will never bother finding out about.

Also, Dharma logo flashes during the start of the movie:

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s294/cuppajoe07/2207938979_c4d84466ee.jpg

I wonder how crazy this goes. Or maybe he just put it there as a "sup" to his other series.

The DVD release is going to demand very careful examination.

[thepaulo]

thanks for all the hard work..lordjezo
strangely....compared to the back story, the movie is vapid...
I think the movie follows shallow characters by design....it's much easier for all of us to identify with them.

[foodcourtdruide]

Wouldn't you prefer that the movie actually explain these things, rather than having to make assumptions from some weird websites? I've already documented my dislike of this movie, repeatedly. lol

[LordJezo]

Wouldn't you prefer that the movie actually explain these things, rather than having to make assumptions from some weird websites?

If you were a fan of Lost (as in a hardcore fan that spends hours combing through ARG websites and analyzing screenshots of every episode), then no, you wouldn't want that at all out of this movie.

Cloverfield offers more of the same, if you just want the movie then thats all you get, but if you dig deeper into the backstory you'll be rewarded with a whole alternate world of stuff that went into it.

What I want to know now is what the thing was that feel into the ocean at the end of the movie. Was it really the thing that woke up the monster? Also, what was that oil platform really drilling? Why were there ninjas on there? We might not know for sure until some high res screen caps show up when the DVD is released.. unless the Manga goes into it more.

thanks for all the hard work..lordjezo
strangely....compared to the back story, the movie is vapid...
I think the movie follows shallow characters by design....it's much easier for all of us to identify with them.

Yeah, I think the characters are shallow and very generic because that's exactly how real people would be, generic and shallow. They were supposed to be random 20 somethings and they acted just like random 20 somethings would, nothing special about them and nothing really memorable, just trying to survive.

[Furtherman]

This movie was great.

Shaky cam making you sick? You must be a blast at amusement parks.

This seems like a "too cool to like" movie for the most part. It's not a perfect movie (going up in that apt. building at Columbus Circle? That rescue was over the top - BUT... it did give some awesome views of the monster walking up Broadway!) It was well done and some of the best f/x I've ever seen.

The story was what I expected. The audience was as clueless as the characters as to what was going on... and I liked that.

If anything, this is a movie that has to be seen on the big screen. I can't imagine it transferring well to a TV set... unless you have a big TV.

One question though for those who saw it...

What do you think that first explosion was downtown?

[Furtherman]

Wouldn't you prefer that the movie actually explain these things

No! That's what makes great, and for the most part, more original. If anything can be taken away "realistically" from the movie, it has the "what the hell is going on?" preface which mirrors so much of our real lives everyday. How many times has something bad happened to you for no apparent reason? It happens to everyone.

[foodcourtdruide]

Again, I'm sorry if I'm annoying anyone with my over-negativity, but I just disagree on most of Lord Jezo's points. And if I'm really annoying people, please just ignore me.

If you were a fan of Lost (as in a hardcore fan that spends hours combing through ARG websites and analyzing screenshots of every episode), then no, you wouldn't want that at all out of this movie.

Cloverfield offers more of the same, if you just want the movie then thats all you get, but if you dig deeper into the backstory you'll be rewarded with a whole alternate world of stuff that went into it.

Maybe so, I can't disagree wtih this because it's your opinion. However, I think you're making excuses for the film not explaining things. Like, "oh, this is bad, but it's supposed to be bad! If you read A, B and C it will be good!"

what the thing was that feel into the ocean at the end of the movie. Was it really the thing that woke up the monster? Also, what was that oil platform really drilling? Why were there ninjas on there?
We might not know for sure until some high res screen caps show up when the DVD is released.. unless the Manga goes into it more.

This whole scenario was SUCH lazy writing.
ohhhhhhhhh something crashed into the ocean, that explains EVERYTHING! And our hero's camera just HAPPENED to catch it! How can anyone claim this movie was going for realism!??

Yeah, I think the characters are shallow and very generic because that's exactly how real people would be, generic and shallow. They were supposed to be random 20 somethings and they acted just like random 20 somethings would, nothing special about them and nothing really memorable, just trying to survive.

I think your'e just explaining away the bad acting, poor casting and terrible dialogue. Hud was NOT acting like a random 20 something. He was acting like someone that had a team of writers writing bad lines for him. Marlena and Hud's interactions were incredibly lame and NOT real. People do not flirt while the city is being destroyed above them and most of their friends/family are probably dead.

[foodcourtdruide]

No! That's what makes great, and for the most part, more original. If anything can be taken away "realistically" from the movie, it has the "what the hell is going on?" preface which mirrors so much of our real lives everyday. How many times has something bad happened to you for no apparent reason? It happens to everyone.

I've seen movies with plot holes before, it's not that original.

[Furtherman]

I've seen movies with plot holes before, it's not that original.

Well, this isn't a movie that depends on a solid plot. Monster attacks city, people try and get out. It's pretty basic, and like I said before, it's not perfect. But it's a fun ride. I had a blast watching it... the whole backstory doesn't concern me, which is put out there for the uber-movie geek, or whatever they consider themselves... but as a movie experience, it was totally worth it.

[foodcourtdruide]

Well, this isn't a movie that depends on a solid plot. Monster attacks city, people try and get out. It's pretty basic, and like I said before, it's not perfect. But it's a fun ride. I had a blast watching it... the whole backstory doesn't concern me, which is put out there for the uber-movie geek, or whatever they consider themselves... but as a movie experience, it was totally worth it.

I'll stop being a nit-picky prick. I'm happy you guys enjoyed it.

[LordJezo]

This whole scenario was SUCH lazy writing.
ohhhhhhhhh something crashed into the ocean, that explains EVERYTHING! And our hero's camera just HAPPENED to catch it! How can anyone claim this movie was going for realism!??

People's cameras "just happen" to catch stuff all the time. He just happened to be in the right spot at the right time. And it explains nothing yet, it gives clues based on the ARG that is going on but does not provide any solid answers. If you take that shot combined with everything else known about the oil platform and the company commenting on what happened then it gives you some ideas into the backstory.

All this stuff is there for only a fraction of a percent of the people who are hardcore enough to care, almost everyone else will know nothing about what is going on here and will not think twice about any of it.

And people do not flirt? If you were in a horrible situation with everyone around you dying and some of the worst destruction ever seen happing right before your eyes you might try anything you could to get your mind off the situation. Speed taught us that, Keanu and Sandra came together at the end and the movie made the point that people in stressful situations develop an attraction towards each other.

[foodcourtdruide]

This sums up my thoughts on this movie:

http://joelamantia.com/images/boxes_arrows/princess_bride-vizzini-3.jpg

Inconceivable!

[TheMojoPin]

Well, if anyone knows about flirting in inappropriate ways at inappropriate times, it's Lord Jezo.

[fezident]

FOODCOURT, are you kidding me??!
There's street-level footage of the first plane going into the first tower on 9/11! Handheld video. In focus. As if on cue.

I submit that, more often than not, fucking unbelievable things are accidentally caught on camera all the time. Entire tv shows are based on this concept. (Caught On Tape, The Most Amazing Videos, RealTV.....)

So yes, I think that we can file CLOVERFIELD under "realistic". Everybody reacted in a realistic fashion. They screamed. They wondered what the hell was happening. They protected themselves. They looted. Called their parents. Took pix with their phones. And everything in between. No Jack Bauer to save the day. Why? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE HIGHLY UNREALISTIC. If you wanna see a big neuralizer bazooka thingie zap the monster into oblivion, then rent MEN IN BLACK. Only in a fantasy comedy like that would the government be prepared for a full-on martian attack. In real life, people would just try to stick together, pray, and keep movin'.

If you don't dig CLOVERFIELD. Fine. Just say you don't like it yet again. But don't try to shoot holes in a very simple plot. MONSTER ATTACKS - PEOPLE RUN.

This plot is AIRTIGHT when you consider the hollywood alternative like, say, training a bunch of retard oildrillers to go up in space an detonate a bomb inside an asteroid.
Or going to the center of the earth to kickstart its molten core.
Or, for that matter, that an investigative reporter wouldn't recognize the man she loves when he takes off his glasses. Oh and she doesn't recognize his voice either.

I mean really!

Pretty much the only problem I had with this movie was that the monster ripped the head of our Statue Of Liberty and threw it into midtown. THAT'S retarded. The monster wouldn't know that the Statue is an important landmark to us. The monster wouldn't make that kind of "statement".


Other than that, it's the story of every day, normal, (read: clueless) people who were thrown into this unimaginable event.

[Fallon]

I saw it this afternoon and really liked it. They did a good job with the characters, I actually got sad for them when I was watching it. I kinda wish they didn't give the full view of the monster. I liked just seeing bits and pieces of it.

[Fallon]

Pretty much the only problem I had with this movie was that the monster ripped the head of our Statue Of Liberty and threw it into midtown. THAT'S retarded. The monster wouldn't know that the Statue is an important landmark to us. The monster wouldn't make that kind of "statement".
Well, maybe it thought the statue was alive and whacked it's head off.

[TheMojoPin]

Well, maybe i whacked off.

I'm so bored.

[BoarsHeadRob]

Elle is seen drinking a Slusho drink in an episode of Heroes while she is staking out to watch the cheerleader. :laugh:

[Furtherman]

Well, maybe it thought the statue was alive and whacked it's head off.

I agree, that's more plausable.

[LordJezo]

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w280/stealmywheels/6slpa2u.gif

[ShapopoJoe]

Cloverfield - Quick review...loved it...just loved it....I really dont understand how fans of "monster" movies would not like this....It much better than any remake of "Godzilla" or "King Kong"....the monster was fucking incredible...very intense....Loved it and look forward to the sequel...

Shap Out

[Snoogans]

Cloverfield - Quick review...loved it...just loved it....I really dont understand how fans of "monster" movies would not like this....It much better than any remake of "Godzilla" or "King Kong"....the monster was fucking incredible...very intense....Loved it and look forward to the sequel...

Shap Out

I can make a monster movie on my camcorder with shadow puppets and have it be better then the remakes of Godzilla and King Kong

[Snoogans]

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[foodcourtdruide]

FOODCOURT, are you kidding me??!
There's street-level footage of the first plane going into the first tower on 9/11! Handheld video. In focus. As if on cue.

I submit that, more often than not, fucking unbelievable things are accidentally caught on camera all the time. Entire tv shows are based on this concept. (Caught On Tape, The Most Amazing Videos, RealTV.....)

So yes, I think that we can file CLOVERFIELD under "realistic". Everybody reacted in a realistic fashion. They screamed. They wondered what the hell was happening. They protected themselves. They looted. Called their parents. Took pix with their phones. And everything in between. No Jack Bauer to save the day. Why? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE HIGHLY UNREALISTIC. If you wanna see a big neuralizer bazooka thingie zap the monster into oblivion, then rent MEN IN BLACK. Only in a fantasy comedy like that would the government be prepared for a full-on martian attack. In real life, people would just try to stick together, pray, and keep movin'.

If you don't dig CLOVERFIELD. Fine. Just say you don't like it yet again. But don't try to shoot holes in a very simple plot. MONSTER ATTACKS - PEOPLE RUN.

This plot is AIRTIGHT when you consider the hollywood alternative like, say, training a bunch of retard oildrillers to go up in space an detonate a bomb inside an asteroid.
Or going to the center of the earth to kickstart its molten core.
Or, for that matter, that an investigative reporter wouldn't recognize the man she loves when he takes off his glasses. Oh and she doesn't recognize his voice either.

I mean really!

Pretty much the only problem I had with this movie was that the monster ripped the head of our Statue Of Liberty and threw it into midtown. THAT'S retarded. The monster wouldn't know that the Statue is an important landmark to us. The monster wouldn't make that kind of "statement".


Other than that, it's the story of every day, normal, (read: clueless) people who were thrown into this unimaginable event.

You scream at me that it's realistic, then you tell me it's just a simple monster movie. Which is it? The thing crashing being caught on film by the main stars is an absolute stretch. It was lazy writing. Why is it that if I don't think this movie was good people are telling me I should watch more Hollywood friendly films (IE Men in Black)? This was an extremely Hollywood friendly story. Again, the main character dying DIDN'T make it un-Hollywood friendly, the love story and the two stars meeting eachother at the end DID make it Hollywood friendly. I just saw bucklist. The stars die at the end. Is that not a Hollywood movie?

I'm sorry I didn't like this movie. I really don't want to shit on a movie a lot of people liked, but I'm just being honest.

[CountryBob]

Man - I enjoyed the sounds of the monster and monster battles even though you couldnt see much of them. Hearing something huge coming near you and destroying everything in its path is scary in its own way.
When they were getting out of the apartment building with the hurt girlfriend and the monster was moving up the street towards them - damn that was intense. Sometimes, good sound in a movie like this really flips my switch! Whoo- Hoo!

[keithy_19]

They've already started on the sequel to cloverfield. Lucky Strike should be in theaters late 2009.

[Doctor Manhattan]

...Also, Dharma logo flashes during the start of the movie:

Here is a nice shot of it:
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1451/cloverfielddharmalogonj8.jpg