2007 NBA Draft/ offseason discussion thread

[cougarjake13]

i say oden goes 1

what says you

[epo]

i say oden goes 1

what says you

I'll put money on Durant going 2.

[Ritalin]

"With the first pick in the 2007 NBA Draft, the Portland Trail Blazers select......some guy that nobody cares about, that nobody is going to watch because his games are going to start at 11:30 at night, and there's no way I'm staying up until 2 in the morning to see the end of Portland/Memphis in January

[cougarjake13]

"With the first pick in the 2007 NBA Draft, the Portland Trail Blazers select......some guy that nobody cares about, that nobody is going to watch because his games are going to start at 11:30 at night, and there's no way I'm staying up until 2 in the morning to see the end of Portland/Memphis in January

that is the shame of david stern and his stupid ass

[epo]

that is the shame of david stern and his stupid ass

Why blame Stern for Portland being on the West Coast?

[Ritalin]

that is the shame of david stern and his stupid ass

It's true, though. I lOVE basketball, but the NBA is nearly unwatchable. Too many teams, for one. And the league gives in too much to TV with it's scheduling. Stern always backs up his decisions with numbers and polls, but I think he's driving fans away.

Durant HAS to go second, right?

[epo]

Boston sending #5 to Seattle for Ray Allen!

[cougarjake13]

Why blame Stern for Portland being on the West Coast?

i dont blame him for that

but for scheduling the games so late

instead of 10:30 games make the 8:45 or 9 pm east coast time, thats reasonable for the west coasters only at 545 or 6

[Ritalin]

Ray Allan to Boston is a great trade for the Celts

[cougarjake13]

Boston sending #5 to Seattle for Ray Allen!

but only if green is available at 5

[epo]

i dont blame him for that

but for scheduling the games so late

instead of 10:30 games make the 8:45 or 9 pm east coast time, thats reasonable for the west coasters only at 545 or 6

Don't east coast games start at 7 or 7:30 local time. Wouldn't that be a problem for the west coast?

[Ritalin]

How long do they give teams to pick in the NFL? This 5 minute time limit is smart. Keeps the thing moving along.

[epo]

I love Green at #5.....now I just want Conley or Horford @ #6 for Milwaukee!

[epo]

How long do they give teams to pick in the NFL? This 5 minute time limit is smart. Keeps the thing moving along.

I was thinking the same thing. That 15 minutes in the NFL is just stupid.

[NickyL0885]

How long do they give teams to pick in the NFL? This 5 minute time limit is smart. Keeps the thing moving along.

15 in the NFL for the 1st rd. But they are shortening it to 10mins to make it go faster and have it on Prime Time tv. At least, that what i read. Also, The Ray Allen deal is sooo bad. His best yrs are behind him. Oy.

[cougarjake13]

Don't east coast games start at 7 or 7:30 local time. Wouldn't that be a problem for the west coast?

yeh it sucks for them but they usually at work and arent forced to stay up late to watch a game just miss the early parts of it

[cougarjake13]

15 in the NFL for the 1st rd. But they are shortening it to 10mins to make it go faster and have it on Prime Time tv. At least, that what i read. Also, The Ray Allen deal is sooo bad. His best yrs are behind him. Oy.

10 minutes is fine

its not like these nfl guys have to make the decision in that time, they usually have a group of guys they want and have to see who's left before picking

all the other crap gets done pre draft

[epo]

15 in the NFL for the 1st rd. But they are shortening it to 10mins to make it go faster and have it on Prime Time tv. At least, that what i read. Also, The Ray Allen deal is sooo bad. His best yrs are behind him. Oy.

Danny Ainge is a pretty awful GM.

[epo]

Fuck you Memphis!

Now I hope the Bucks trade down at #6.

[Ritalin]

Did Oden make Conley look better than he is?

I don't know...just asking

[cougarjake13]

Did Oden make Conley look better than he is?

I don't know...just asking

i say yes

[Ritalin]

I hope the Chinese guy makes it all the way down to the Bulls.

[Ritalin]

With the 6th pick in the draft, the Milwaukee Bucks select ........ Tony Mandarich from Michigan State University.

[epo]

With the 6th pick in the draft, the Milwaukee Bucks select ........ Tony Mandarich from Michigan State University.

Not funny.

[Ritalin]

When I was a kid, I always used to like Junior Bridgeman...I don't know why.

[cougarjake13]

With the 6th pick in the draft, the Milwaukee Bucks select ........ Tony Mandarich from Michigan State University.

Not funny.

man i remember how hyped that guy was

[NickyL0885]

Bucks make a steal!! nice.

[Ritalin]

Motherfuckers! They took my Chinese guy!

Edit: Yeah, Fran he's real "50 Cent". That's why the NBA sucks a little, right there.

[cougarjake13]

I hope the Chinese guy makes it all the way down to the Bulls.

guess not

[Fallon]

This trade has Ainge being a pussy and trying to keep Pierce happy with a veteran written all over it. Fucking idiot.

[cougarjake13]

This trade has Ainge being a pussy and trying to keep Pierce happy with a veteran written all over it. Fucking idiot.

how does he still have the gm job ???

[epo]

Motherfuckers! They took my Chinese guy!

Edit: Yeah, Fran he's real "50 Cent". That's why the NBA sucks a little, right there.

Milwaukee is so trading him.

[NickyL0885]

Yi's people are not happy. Prob going to a force a trade. They can have him go back to china an play.

[Ritalin]

Send him to Chicago.

Minnesota...starting a new losing tradition.

[cougarjake13]

Yi's people are not happy. Prob going to a force a trade. They can have him go back to china an play.

where did they want him to go ???

[Ritalin]

Dickie V!

[Ritalin]

Look at what Joichim (sp?) is wearing!!! Hahaha.

Please let him fall to the Bulls

[NickyL0885]

where did they want him to go ???

Somewhere else where he can be marketed better, like Chicago. Since the Bulls are known, big city etc. They feel that if he goes to a team they don't like, no one will buy jerseys and such. its all about money.

[cougarjake13]

wow what a shocker

mj drafted another tar heel

[cougarjake13]

Look at what Joichim (sp?) is wearing!!! Hahaha.

Please let him fall to the Bulls

looks like you got ur wish

now will they take him ???

[Kevin]

if i were the knicks id trade their pick for the rights to shawn kemps 50kids.. At least one of them has to be a player..

[NickyL0885]

I think the bulls take Spencer Hawes. Well, at least they should. Need a center.

[Ritalin]

Oh, they'll take him....they don't need him, but they'll take him.

Actually, I have no idea who they're going to take

[epo]

Yi's people are not happy. Prob going to a force a trade. They can have him go back to china an play.

Yi is stuck. If not, I hope that Senator Kohl asks for us to bomb China. (not really, I'm just saying)

[cougarjake13]

so the knicks could have had noah

[epo]

Somewhere else where he can be marketed better, like Chicago. Since the Bulls are known, big city etc. They feel that if he goes to a team they don't like, no one will buy jerseys and such. its all about money.

It's also about money for Milwaukee. They just got exposure to billions of new potential fans.

[Ritalin]

Dig....he'll be fun, that's for sure.

Look at that tie! fucking hysterical...How about him and Ben Wallace on the floor together?

[cougarjake13]

he needs a haircut

[Ritalin]

We'll pump him up with some HGH, get some muscle on him, he'll be pretty good. We still need someone else inside, though.

[Kevin]

in paxton we trust?? he has had more bust picks than anyone,
and another one in Noah

[NickyL0885]

Yea, tell me what is so great about Joakim Noah? He cant score, so, what the hell is going to do for Da Bulls? They already got a guy who cant score in Ben Wallace.

[epo]

Yea, tell me what is so great about Joakim Noah? He cant score, so, what the hell is going to do for Da Bulls? They already got a guy who cant score in Ben Wallace.

To me Noah is an energy guy and that's it. He excelled in college by being an athlete...but that shit don't play in the association. Plus that sideways shot? Christ is that ugly.

[NickyL0885]

Hawks having a very nice draft, sorta like the Browns in the NFL. They are def on the rise. May take a few yrs but at least they got some hope for the future.

[cougarjake13]

To me Noah is an energy guy and that's it. He excelled in college by being an athlete...but that shit don't play in the association. Plus that sideways shot? Christ is that ugly.

i dont see him being a starter but he might make a nice career out of being a 6th man

[cougarjake13]

Hawks having a very nice draft, sorta like the Browns in the NFL. They are def on the rise. May take a few yrs but at least they got some hope for the future.

yeh but sometimes you keep drafting in the lottery and never get better

[epo]

Steve Francis for Zach Randolph?

[Kevin]

Francis for Zach Randolph?

I as a Knick fan LOVE!!! That move.. Francis is a bum.. I cant believe we got Randolph for him.. Big can score inside.. GREAT trade..

[epo]

I as a Knick fan LOVE!!! That move.. Francis is a bum.. I cant believe we got Randolph for him.. Big can score inside.. GREAT trade..

What are the details or is it a straight-up deal?

Update: Looks like Zach for Francis & Channing Frye.

[Kevin]

What are the details or is it a straight-up deal?

I don't like it anymore.. Frye goes too, and dikau comes here.. terrible deal..

[Bossanova]

I don't like it anymore.. Frye goes too, and dikau comes here.. terrible deal..

Way to ruin a great trade

[Kevin]

Way to ruin a great trade

Ugh.. now we add MORE years in a deal and lose a young player.. FUCK YOU ISAIAH!!

[epo]

Way to ruin a great trade

It's not like Portland was gonna give Randolph to the Knicks for nothing (Francis).

[NickyL0885]

Wow, great interview Jim Gray!! Oy.........Did they actually think they would tell them anything??? What a waste. Kupcheks voice annoys me.

[Bossanova]

It's not like Portland was gonna give Randolph to the Knicks for nothing (Francis).

Not at all, but Frey is one of two guys that Knick fans like to see. He also has amazing potential

[cougarjake13]

Not at all, but Frey is one of two guys that Knick fans like to see. He also has amazing potential

i liked the deal until i heard frye was involved

just another reason for me to find a new team

[cougarjake13]

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wilson chandler ????

[epo]

Wilson Chandler ain't that good.

[Fezticle98]

Has Al Thornton gone yet?

I don't know how to feel about the Celtics' trade. I guess Ray Allen helps them contend immediately since the Atlantic is so weak.

[Bossanova]

Wilson Chandler ain't that good.

Exactly! We trade Frey and get Wilson Chandler. isiah is so great at his job

[Kevin]

wait wait wait.. Hold on, hold on.. Did Spike just call RALANDO BALKMAN.. A great player??

[cougarjake13]

Has Al Thornton gone yet?

I don't know how to feel about the Celtics' trade. I guess Ray Allen helps them contend immediately since the Atlantic is so weak.

14 to the clippers

[Fezticle98]

14 to the clippers

The Clippers got a steal. Thornton is going to be good, and soon.

[PhishHead]

Exactly! We trade Frey and get Wilson Chandler. isiah is so great at his job

why draft chandler when so many other good players available, Tucker being one of them.

[Bossanova]

wait wait wait.. Hold on, hold on.. Did Spike just call RALANDO BALKMAN.. A great player??

Is there something that the Knick fans on this board aren't getting? How do the known faces tied to the Knicks love this team?

[Kevin]

Is there something that the Knick fans on this board aren't getting? How do the known faces tied to the Knicks love this team?

I mean stevan A and Spike are making it seem like the Knicks just made themselves a contender. WHAT THE FUCK AM I MISSING?? All this young tallent.. WHERE??

[Bossanova]

I mean stevan A and Spike are making it seem like the Knicks just made themselves a contender. WHAT THE FUCK AM I MISSING?? All this young tallent.. WHERE??

I see Randolph and David Lee, maybe Crawford. Thats it

[Kevin]

I see Randolph and David Lee, maybe Crawford. Thats it

Randolph averaged 23.6 points and 10.1 rebounds. In the West, thats fucking impressive.. They do have Randolph Morris.. WHo people say if he was in the draft, He would have been 10-15th pick.. Dickau is a pass 1st pg which we need, And Fred Jones is not terrible.. Looking a Randolphs stats and those other facts.. I really like it now..

[BeltOfScotch]

Channing Frye is a nice player, but the guy averaged 9 points and 5 rebounds last year, it's not like he set the world on fire. They got rid of Francis's deal and as Kevin said, picked up a proven scorer inside scorer who must be double-teamed. I think it's a solid move for them, although Zach Randolph in NYC is a scary prospect.

I saw somebody questioned Noah to the Bulls, I thought that was a perfect pick for them also. Between Deng, Gordon and Hinrich they already have three proven scorers. Combine that with the height and presence of Thomas, Wallace and Noah and that's a great top 6. Plus, assuming Thomas and Noah do well, they may be able to trade Wallace at some point before his ridiculous contract is up.

Seattle is going to have a really interesting team next year if they resign Rashard Lewis. Durant, Jeff Green and Lewis would be a very difficult group of players to guard if they can get on the court at the same time.

[sailor]

10 minutes is fine

its not like these nfl guys have to make the decision in that time, they usually have a group of guys they want and have to see who's left before picking

all the other crap gets done pre draft

not true, there are lots of last minute trades.

[Kevin]

Randolph and Frye are only a year apart in Age.. Randolph 25, Frye 24.. So i am liking this deal now alot..

[sailor]

Randolph and Frye are only a year apart in Age.. Randolph 25, Frye 24.. So i am liking this deal now alot..

hello there, manic-depressive knicks fan.

[Kevin]

hello there, manic-depressive knicks fan.

I know i know.. But 23.6 10.1 in the West and only 25 is impressive.

[sailor]

I know i know.. But 23.6 10.1 in the West and only 25 is impressive.

till you uncover your next nugget of info. :)

[Kevin]

till you uncover your next nugget of info. :)

SHIT!! Randolph is black.. I DON'T LIKE IT!!

[hammersavage]

That is a great deal for the Knicks. You're getting 23 and 10 a night and getting rid of a useless Steve Francis. Don't love giving up Chandler but you gotta give up something. And Dickau and Jones are ok pieces. The Knicks can certainly contend for the Atlantic next year...

But I'm a Nets fan and I'm in loooove with their selection of Sean Williams. Character issues or not, the kid is a monster defensively and can rebound. GOODBYE JASON COLLINS YOU WASTE OF BREATH....

Couple other thoughts:
1. Sure the Celtics get a little better with Jesus Shuttlesworth, but this is a team that needs to rebuild, not fine-tune. Maybe with some luck, they can squeeze the 8 seed. And Doc and Danny will keep their jobs for another year. Sucks to be a C's fan right now.

2. Love Corey Brewer. Even at 7 i think he was a tad underrated. 4th best player in the draft IMO.

3. Acie Law is a gamer. If he brings that killer instinct to the Hawks, they gotta be able to win a few games...

Well, interesting night. Can't wait to read the sports guys column tomorrow about his beloved Celtics.

[A.J.]

1. Sure the Celtics get a little better with Jesus Shuttlesworth, but this is a team that needs to rebuild, not fine-tune. Maybe with some luck, they can squeeze the 8 seed. And Doc and Danny will keep their jobs for another year. Sucks to be a C's fan right now.


Well, interesting night. Can't wait to read the sports guys column tomorrow about his beloved Celtics.

Yes it does suck. The trade for Ray Allen would have made sense...5 YEARS AGO. I like the Sports Guy's C-Webb for Mitch Richmond analogy: he's spot-on as always.

I DO like the Big Baby pickup. He's a big body down low and that's 6 fouls. I'll take that.

[Kevin]

6:14: Good God, Isiah finally made a good trade! It happened! Somehow, he just landed Zach Randolph for Channing Frye and Stevie Francis! I'm shocked! What's happening to this league? Even Isiah is doing the right thing! I can't stop using exclamation points! How was that the best Portland could do for Randolph??? He's good for a 25-10 in the East! And if it doesn't work out, who cares? They gave up a bad contract and a half-decent forward to take a $50 million flier on a dominant low-post player. Great move. I stand by these thoughts even if Zach starts an international incident at Scores within the next nine months.

(Follow-up note: I think Portland GM Kevin Pritchard spent an hour thinking about it and decided, "You know what? Just to be safe, maybe it's best that Oden and Randolph never, ever, ever meet. Call Isiah and tell him we say yes to the crappy Francis-Frye offer. We can't mess around.")

6:16: It's only fitting that Stern's microphone went out right as he was announcing New Jersey's 17th pick: troubled BC star Sean Williams, the perfect rebounder/shot-blocker on paper for the the Nets. Unfortunately, Sean couldn't attend the draft because he's home watching "Planet Earth" on Blu-ray and eating three bags of Doritos at once.




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