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JoeYaDeadHomey
06-21-2007, 04:53 PM
anyone have a player? I just picked up the one for the 360 after reading a ton of positive reviews, and seeing it in action at a friends. it helps that i have a 360 elite with hdmi =-D
but i was curious as to who had hd dvd stuff over here. any move reccomendations?
i picked up the matrix because im a tool, but it looks fantastic.. dunno what else to get over the weekend.
Here's a list of HD-DVD titles. (http://www.satelliteguys.us/hd-dvd-forum/51497-list-hd-dvd-titles.html)
Titles in bold are out already, the others will be released later. Don't bother looking for any movies by Sony, Disney or MGM as they are currently exclusive to Blu-Ray. So no Spiderman, James Bond or Pixar movies.
Fallon
06-21-2007, 05:10 PM
Blockbuster favors Blu-ray DVDs to HD DVD (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070619/tc_nm/blockbuster_bluray_dc_5)
Holding out hope for the dual-format players...
http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/07/08/ricoh-laser-head-can-read-hd-dvd-and-blu-ray-discs/
King Imp
06-21-2007, 07:36 PM
I don't remember where exactly I read it, but when comparing the two (HD-DVD vs Blu Ray), they pretty much put it in these terms. HD-DVD will end up being the Betamax to Blu Ray's VHS.
Oh, and it wasn't a Sony article either that said it.
celery
06-21-2007, 09:09 PM
I don't remember where exactly I read it, but when comparing the two (HD-DVD vs Blu Ray), they pretty much put it in these terms. HD-DVD will end up being the Betamax to Blu Ray's VHS.
Oh, and it wasn't a Sony article either that said it.
I've heard this comparison used the other way around, as HD DVD (there is no hyphen) players are currently much cheaper. It's still way too early to make any judgements. Most people are perfect content with standard definition DVDs.
JoeYaDeadHomey
06-22-2007, 03:54 AM
i read that porn picked hd dvd over blu ray, and they picked vhs over betamax soooo who knows.
it was 200 bux for the player, if it goes the way of betamax i wont be so disappointed, and itll be a while before that happens.
also, there are already dual format players out, theyre not very good and are really expensive.
cupcakelove
06-22-2007, 04:24 AM
I don't remember where exactly I read it, but when comparing the two (HD-DVD vs Blu Ray), they pretty much put it in these terms. HD-DVD will end up being the Betamax to Blu Ray's VHS.
Oh, and it wasn't a Sony article either that said it.
I've heard this comparison used the other way around, as HD DVD (there is no hyphen) players are currently much cheaper. It's still way too early to make any judgements. Most people are perfect content with standard definition DVDs.
When comparing the two, HD DVD is VHS and BluRay is BetaMax. HD DVD is a free technology, where BluRay is a proprietary one that has to be licensed from Sony if you want to release a movie using it. I know Blockbuster has chosen BluRay, but when was the last time you went to a Blockbuster? I still think its too early to for it to go one way or the other, most people I know do not have HD TVs yet (including myself) so making a decision about which format to buy, is meaningless at this point.
JoeYaDeadHomey
06-22-2007, 05:19 AM
most people I know do not have HD TVs yet (including myself)
=-D which is why i upgraded! its serious a huuuuuuuuuuuuge difference definitely reccomend it.
KnoxHarrington
06-23-2007, 07:19 PM
I also recall reading a story that Wal-Mart was going to start selling HD-DVD players dirt-ass cheap too, and they do have the muscle to swing this one way or the other.
I don't know what the hell Sony is thinking these days. I think that they've become convinced that people will buy stuff because it's by Sony, even if they pay more. Uh, no. Sorry, boys.
When comparing the two, HD DVD is VHS and BluRay is BetaMax. HD DVD is a free technology, where BluRay is a proprietary one that has to be licensed from Sony if you want to release a movie using it. I know Blockbuster has chosen BluRay, but when was the last time you went to a Blockbuster? I still think its too early to for it to go one way or the other, most people I know do not have HD TVs yet (including myself) so making a decision about which format to buy, is meaningless at this point.
They are both proprietary tech. Toshiba owns HD DVD.
Here's how it breaks down right now. Blu-Ray has more Hollywood studio support. It has exclusive support from Sony (obviously), MGM and Disney. HD DVD has Universal exclusive. The rest of the studios currently publish on both.
Computer makers are lining up pretty much exclusively with Blu-Ray. Apple and Dell are exclusive. HP was exclusive but I think they announced limited support for HD DVD. Microsoft has announced support for HD DVD but since they don't assemble computers it doesn't amount to much more than an add-on for the 360.
Ever since the PS3 was released Blu-Ray titles have been outselling HD DVD titles. Still, the market is so small right now that it can still turn. But Blu-Ray has all the advantages at the moment.
As far as picture and sound both formats are capable of the same codecs and such so picture and sound quality is going to be dependent more on the quality of your player and the quality of the HD transfer on the disc. Blu-Ray has a big advantage as far as space on the disc. Both formats can easily fit a movie, however.
Click here for an editorial from a guy who follows this stuff closely. He's picking Blu-Ray. He wrote this after Harry Knowles wrote what can only be called an HD DVD ad disguised as an article full of a staggering amount of inaccuracies. (http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/soapbox/soap060107.html)
EDIT: I was wrong. Blu-Ray has exclusive support from 5 studios. I forgot Lions Gate and Fox.
underdog
06-23-2007, 07:46 PM
I don't know what the hell Sony is thinking these days. I think that they've become convinced that people will buy stuff because it's by Sony, even if they pay more. Uh, no. Sorry, boys.
Its not the first time either. Didn't they try the same shit with mini-disk and beta-max?
AnnoyedGrunt
06-23-2007, 07:57 PM
i read that porn picked hd dvd over blu ray, and they picked vhs over betamax soooo who knows.
I don't think porn is going to make that big of a difference. Most porn is shot quickly and cheaply on a mini-DV camera, so that wouldn't really benefit from the jump to HD. Plus you can find porn in fa more places now than you could back in the 80's
KnoxHarrington
06-23-2007, 08:23 PM
Its not the first time either. Didn't they try the same shit with mini-disk and beta-max?
Well, and the "Network Walkman", their "IPod killer", originally only played song files in Sony's ATRAC (I think that's what it's called) format, and only added MP3 after it became apparent no one in their right mind would buy it under those circumstances.
And, of course, let's not get into the debacle PS3 is turning into.
FezPaul
06-23-2007, 08:28 PM
[color=navy][size=2]EDIT: I was wrong.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f281/FezPaul/emoticons/Noes.gif
underdog
06-23-2007, 08:33 PM
Well, and the "Network Walkman", their "IPod killer", originally only played song files in Sony's ATRAC (I think that's what it's called) format, and only added MP3 after it became apparent no one in their right mind would buy it under those circumstances.
And, of course, let's not get into the debacle PS3 is turning into.
As a dj, I loved the mini disc for recording. But they fucked that up so bad. It could have been the iPod before the iPod.
Well, and the "Network Walkman", their "IPod killer", originally only played song files in Sony's ATRAC (I think that's what it's called) format, and only added MP3 after it became apparent no one in their right mind would buy it under those circumstances.
And, of course, let's not get into the debacle PS3 is turning into.
I'm not sure if the PS3 will ever recover here but it is waiting to explode in Japan. In the latest Famitsu (Japan's biggest gaming magazine) 8 of the top 20 most wanted games in their monthly reader poll were PS3 games. That's the most of any system, even the DS. Once those games start getting released PS3's will start selling. It's not going to be the total disaster it looks like right now.
Mike Teacher
06-24-2007, 03:30 AM
Format wars suck; they should be fought by the companies, not the consumer, and both formats [ssssssssshhhhhh!! the techies hate to hear this] are already obsolete.
JoeYaDeadHomey
06-24-2007, 07:11 AM
i watched the fountain last night.
it was pretty.
KnoxHarrington
06-24-2007, 07:22 AM
Format wars suck; they should be fought by the companies, not the consumer, and both formats [ssssssssshhhhhh!! the techies hate to hear this] are already obsolete.
Exactly. Movies are far more likely to be delivered on VOD than through these things anyway.
Mike Teacher
06-24-2007, 09:12 AM
Exactly. Movies are far more likely to be delivered on VOD than through these things anyway.
Yep.
Someone said the mini-disc mightve been what the iPod became but I dont think it could coz that technology had the same thing DVDs have; moving parts and lasers reading data. Pffft that's so last century.
The format wars will pale in some of the digital wars of the future, like in the case of You Tube, who owns the Ones and Zeroes? Coz that's all it is, all this data. And these chips? Holy cow Sooooooooo ancient do you have any idea how much smaller and faster the techies KNOW the data go? You venture into quantum memory; single atoms representing bits, and we're talking I dont know how many orders of magnitude, but I know you could contain the information in the Library of Congress, and every movie ever digitzed, ever, on something about the size of a grain of salt.
We're talking stone vs rock here.
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