Drowning Stranger vs. Family Pet

[Mike Teacher]

Remembered this hypothetical that Dennis Prager once thought up, or used.

Anyway...

Scenario: Two creatures are drowning in front of you and you can save only one. No exceptions.

One is the cherished Family Pet; whose death will certainly have your wife and kids distraught.

One is a total stranger. A Human, you've never seen him/her. Total stranger.

Which do you save?

Remember: Only One lives. No exceptions. One definately drowns.

[Fat_Sunny]

If It's An Adult Stranger, F_S Would Save His Pet.

If A Child Stranger, F_S Would Reluctantly Go For The Kid.

[BoondockSaint]

Human. No question.

[LiddyRules]

Family pet, easy.

Stranger v. family member: stranger.

[Friday]

Pet. No Question.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Human

Pets are replaceable

What about the strangers Family

what if you were the stranger in this situation, dieing, because Fido is in Danger. How bout you save my life and Ill buy you 35 Dogs

Fucking people and their Pets a humans Life is on the line.

Food Chain Humans than Dogs

:king:

[DonInNC]

At first glance, this seemed like an easy one - save the person. When I thought about it , though, I realized that it would be a much more difficult decision. Still, I'd save the person.

[Fat_Sunny]

Human

Pets are replaceable

What about the strangers Family

what if you were the stranger in this situation, dieing, because Fido is in Danger. How bout you save my life and Ill buy you 35 Dogs

Fucking people and their Pets a humans Life is on the line.

Food Chain Humans than Dogs

:king:

What If The Person Were Jeffrey Dahmer Or Ted Bundy?

[TheMojoPin]

What If The Person Were Jeffrey Dahmer Or Ted Bundy?

The odds of that are pretty remote. Do you really go through your day treating or dealing with other people like they all might be serial killers?

I save the stranger without a second though.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

What If The Person Were Jeffrey Dahmer Or Ted Bundy?


even so, they are dieing, u dont know who they are, You save the life of a human, maybe his mindset changes, maybe he or she embraces life, You can buy a even cooler Dog or Cat, in 2 weeks, then the House is Back to normal

if they dont forgive you, fuck them, its a freaking animal for god sake, you buy them Dogs and cats are purchases, and if you Adopt one, good for you, but Dogs and Cats are replaceable

:king:

[Landblast]

What If The Person Were Jeffrey Dahmer Or Ted Bundy?

they wouldn't be strangers, you know they are murderers, human being, not a second thought.

[Jujubees2]

What If The Person Were Jeffrey Dahmer Or Ted Bundy?

I'd still save the person. Maybe it would help change their mindset.

[BoondockSaint]

What If The Person Were Jeffrey Dahmer Or Ted Bundy?


You don't know who they are. Maybe it's Fez's brother.

[Friday]

Is it bad that I value my cats more than I do most humans?

And if so... well then I guess you should hope it isn't you drowning next to my babies!

[LiddyRules]

What If The Person Were Jeffrey Dahmer Or Ted Bundy? Ted Bundy. He always was my favorite.

[midwestjeff]

What If The Person Were Jeffrey Dahmer Or Ted Bundy?

considering his tastes i say Dahmer was technically THE top of the food chain and according to Hippo's logic, must therefore be saved over any other human or pet.

I'd save my dog over a stranger. maybe not my cats, but don't tell them that.

[Fez4PrezN2008]

Cats > Strangers
http://www.roflcats.com/images/0223.jpg
taco cats > normal cats > strangers

[Fat_Sunny]

The odds of that are pretty remote. Do you really go through your day treating or dealing with other people like they all might be serial killers?

I save the stranger without a second though.

Do You Have A Pet?

There Was A Survey A Couple Of Years Ago Which Said Something Like 70% Of Pet Owners Are Emotionally Closer To Their Pets Than To Their Siblings.

If You Have A Pet Your Family Is Very Close To, This Is Not A "No Brainer".

[FezPaul]

Neither.


But I would try to take some pictures/video.

[TheMojoPin]

OK, while I'd save the human, I'm really surprised at the responses from people saying they'd save a serial killer or Hitler or whatever other ridiculous example there can be even if they knew who it was them. I'd let those fuckers drown if I somehow knew 100% it was them going under.

But a stranger? Look at it this way...a lot of us here have never met. What if it was someone you really like or get along with through the board?

[DonInNC]

What If The Person Were Jeffrey Dahmer Or Ted Bundy?

Our family cat kills more rabbits and other small animals in a month than either of those guys killed people in a lifetime.

[JesterOfSadness]

Pet. No Question.

Agreeing wit dis

[bigredd]

My dog and/or cats and I watch the stranger die.

[Marc with a c]

depends if it had a vagina or not.

[midwestjeff]

apparently my cat was reading my post over my shoulder because two minutes later she pissed on the floor for the first time in her 6 years of life. fuck her. where's that drowning stranger? seeya kitty.

[FUNKMAN]

go get a hoagie... i hate getting wet

[Fez4PrezN2008]

OK, while I'd save the human, I'm really surprised at the responses from people saying they'd save a serial killer or Hitler or whatever other ridiculous example there can be even if they knew who it was them. I'd let those fuckers drown if I somehow knew 100% it was them going under.

But a stranger? Look at it this way...a lot of us here have never met. What if it was someone you really like or get along with through the board?
OK, since you put it like that, then maybe would save Midkiff, but only if the pet wasn't a cat.
http://www.roflcats.com/images/0155.jpg

[Fat_Sunny]

What If You Have Three Kids And Your Wife Just Died, So They Have No Mother Now...Now Their Dog Is Drowning And They'll Be Mental Cases If It Dies.

Who Do You Save?

[DarkHippie]

I would save the pet and then feel guilty for the rest of my life

[FezPaul]

What If You Have Three Kids And Your Wife Just Died, So They Have No Mother Now...Now Their Dog Is Drowning And They'll Be Mental Cases If It Dies.

Who Do You Save?

Whom.

Miss third person F_S

[ChimneyFish]

The odds of that are pretty remote. Do you really go through your day treating or dealing with other people like they all might be serial killers?




Only myself.




Depends if it is a dog or cat.

Dog, I'll reluctantly save the human.

Cat, that annoying little prick is going down.










Hate dogs.:devil2:

[Fat_Sunny]

Whom.

Miss third person F_S

Whom...Very Good.

"F_S" Replaces "I", and "I" Was Not Appropriate In Those Sentences. Claro?

PS: Until Yesterday, F_S Always Thought The Gvac Confirmation Picture Was Actually You! How Did He Get That Impression???

[Landblast]

What If You Have Three Kids And Your Wife Just Died, So They Have No Mother Now...Now Their Dog Is Drowning And They'll Be Mental Cases If It Dies.

Who Do You Save?

especially if the mother died drowning because someone else had this scenario to deal with and they chose the family pet.

[Fat_Sunny]

especially if the mother died drowning because someone else had this scenario to deal with and they chose the family pet.

Well, Wouldn't That Be Ironic?!!??!?!

And On The Pet Lovers Side, What If Your Cat Was 25 Years Old And Dying And You Were On The Way To The Vet To Have It Put To Sleep Anyway, And It Got Out Of The Carrier?
In That Case, F_S Would Probably Save The Humanoid.

One Needs To Weigh All The Factors Quickly When Faced With This Kind Of Decision!

[DolaMight]

I'd make like I made an honest effort to save the humanoid first for the onlookers/media but I'd actually punch or gouge him/her because I'd suspect he/she was trying to drown my dog/cat/monkey. Seriously I'd never let my family pet drown.

I'm sure It also has something to do with the fact I can't watch an animal get killed in a movie but watching a human get it makes me reach for more popcorn.

Plus there's too many humans anyway. I guarantee there's not 6.5 billion cats and dogs combined.

[midwestjeff]

Plus there's too many humans anyway. I guarantee there's not 6.5 billion cats and dogs combined.

Take that Bob Barker! Ya neutering prick.

[foodcourtdruide]

I save the human. Pet's are good and I love animal's, but if you take an animal's life over another human's then you are a traitor.

[Bulldogcakes]

Remembered this hypothetical that Dennis Prager once thought up, or used.

Anyway...

Scenario: Two creatures are drowning in front of you and you can save only one. No exceptions.

One is the cherished Family Pet; whose death will certainly have your wife and kids distraught.

One is a total stranger. A Human, you've never seen him/her. Total stranger.

Which do you save?

Remember: Only One lives. No exceptions. One definately drowns.



Thats easy. I assume the guy is committing suicide, so I dont want him to pull me down with him. Pets don't commit suicide.

[ChimneyFish]

Thats easy. I assume the guy is committing suicide, so I dont want him to pull me down with him. Pets don't commit suicide.

That's actually very good logic.


I wonder if that would work with a poisoning.:innocent:

[sailor]

depends if it had a vagina or not.

yes = dead

[OneEyeJack]

what if the pet was a dolphin and by saving it from drowning you were really killing it...think about it.

[FUNKMAN]

what if they were drowning in sorrow?

[ChimneyFish]

what if they were drowning in sorrow?

Or Coors Banquet Beer.

[MellySmelly]

If it were my dog Pinky, I'd save her. The stranger would probably just try to sue me later anyway.
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8073/pinkyppon6.jpg

[Snacks]

Do You Have A Pet?

There Was A Survey A Couple Of Years Ago Which Said Something Like 70% Of Pet Owners Are Emotionally Closer To Their Pets Than To Their Siblings.

If You Have A Pet Your Family Is Very Close To, This Is Not A "No Brainer".

I'm shocked by some of these answers. I know people love their pets and treat them like part of their family, but they are still animals. How could you let a person screaming for help drown to rescue an animal? I could never do it. All life is important, but a humans life is more important. And yes I have had many pets and when they died it was very sad.

Do onto others as you would want done to you (or whatever that saying is) What if it were your father, brother etc and when you showed up to the scene, you found out that the so called hero had to make a choice. He could have saved your dad but chose to save his cat?

If that happened to me, I would then take that assholes cat and shove it up his ass. You cant choose an animal (IMO)

[SatCam]

such a scenario is exactly why I don't go near water, much less leave my house

[MellySmelly]

My dog has already saved the life of a human, so I figure she's got one coming. Besides the last time I tried to save someone from drowning, I found out later that the mother had drown him in the bathtub two hours previously and was just pretending that she just found him. It was months of court testimony before they finally sent the bitch away.

[FUNKMAN]

My dog has already saved the life of a human, so I figure she's got one coming. Besides the last time I tried to save someone from drowning, I found out later that the mother had drown him in the bathtub two hours previously and was just pretending that she just found him. It was months of court testimony before they finally sent the bitch away.

WOW! terrible story about the boy...

[Gvac]

What if it were your father, brother etc and when you showed up to the scene, you found out that the so called hero had to make a choice. He could have saved your dad but chose to save his cat?

If that happened to me, I would then take that assholes cat and shove it up his ass. You cant choose an animal (IMO)

Suppose when you arrived on the scene you found out the "hero" saved the man that just murdered your entire family and let your dog drown?

[pittphantoms]

Save the stranger. I can't even see one reason I would save the pet over a person...

[RoseBlood]

Heart would say pet.

Head would say stranger.

The guilt of letting another human die would far outweigh grief over loosing a pet.

I'm an animal lover but c'mon? What if this stranger had children? I couldn't live with myself.

[Fez4PrezN2008]

I'm shocked by some of these answers. I know people love their pets and treat them like part of their family, but they are still animals. How could you let a person screaming for help drown to rescue an animal? I could never do it. All life is important, but a humans life is more important. And yes I have had many pets and when they died it was very sad.

Do onto others as you would want done to you (or whatever that saying is) What if it were your father, brother etc and when you showed up to the scene, you found out that the so called hero had to make a choice. He could have saved your dad but chose to save his cat?

If that happened to me, I would then take that assholes cat and shove it up his ass. You cant choose an animal (IMO)
Ahhw, don't take it so seriously, these save only one at a time scenarios hardly ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2J_QQb7zLU) turn up in real life.

( cats > Mccaulay Culkin )

[Snacks]

Suppose when you arrived on the scene you found out the "hero" saved the man that just murdered your entire family and let your dog drown?

I would be happy b/c I could then kill the S.O.B myself!

[Mike Teacher]

I'm shocked by some of these answers. I know people love their pets and treat them like part of their family, but they are still animals. How could you let a person screaming for help drown to rescue an animal? I could never do it. All life is important, but a humans life is more important.

It's fun to play with these scenarios because they are hypothetical, but this one has never failed to get people going, because when alone, like in anonymous voting, you wouldn't believe how many pick the pet. Or you would believe.

Begging the Q. Is our stance that human life is more important correct?

Sure seems so, but is that because we are the humans making the choice? Sure we invented art and computers and cheeze-wiz but does our output make us superior? Or intelligence? That we are most intelligent, most capable of feeling emotion and pain and suffering, and hence more deserving to be saved might be challenged by a dolphin, whale or X species that have brains that are very large [were talking brain/body ratio, not sheer size] and complex so do we really know or just think we know...

The spiral goes on and on and on...

[Fez4PrezN2008]

Maybe we make the choice based on what's good for us, not either of the two drowning victims. We can easily assign a feeling called love toward a pet and that pet is not capable of understanding it or even truly loving you back, but you are going to do what you have to in order to keep your little world order of emotions supported - hence doing what is probably best outcome for ourselves. Re-draw the lines to see if it holds true - Would you let your cat in from out of the rain before you would let a stranger in if the knocked on your door? Of course the cat comes in and the stranger stays out. That few pounds of grey good sitting on top of our neck really makes us do some strange shit. Deep...

[Bulldogcakes]

Begging the Q. Is our stance that human life is more important correct?

Sure seems so, but is that because we are the humans making the choice? Sure we invented art and computers and cheeze-wiz but does our output make us superior? Or intelligence? That we are most intelligent, most capable of feeling emotion and pain and suffering, and hence more deserving to be saved might be challenged by a dolphin, whale or X species that have brains that are very large [were talking brain/body ratio, not sheer size] and complex so do we really know or just think we know...

The spiral goes on and on and on...

Scientists estimate that dogs have the relative intelligence of a 2 year old child. I think the desire to save the animal comes from the sense of dependence that you know that pet has on you, just like a child would. And there's a sense that adults should be able to take care of themselves, and if they don't its really not your fault, its theirs.


http://www.v8jojo.de/bilder/cover/10.jpg
Drown motherfucker.

[Fezticle98]

The pet would probably panic and bite/scratch me as I tried to save it. The human would panic and try to drown me if I went into the water.

I'd probably toss a life ring out there if one was available and let them fight over it.

Then when the cops showed up, I'd tell em I don't know how to swim.

Oh, and if it was the ocean, I'd add something about the sea being a cruel mistress. It would set everyone's mind at ease.

[Mike Teacher]

Oh, and if it was the ocean, I'd add something about the sea being a cruel mistress. It would set everyone's mind at ease.

I'm such a coward I feel my duty in any disaster is to grab a victim and just scream 'Why ??!?!?!... WHY?!?!?!?!' over and over.

[DonInNC]

I was basing my choice of saving the person from a social perspective. Dogs don't have mouths to feed, products to consume, or widgets to build.

From a cosmic standpoint, it doesn't matter which mass of hydrogen and carbon atoms you allow to start decomposing now rather than later.

[Jujubees2]

I've had pets pretty much all my life (have two cats now) and was upset when my dogs died when I was younger but I would never even think for one second about saving any of my pets over another human. Yes, my kids would be upset if their cats died (they were in tears when we had to take one to the vet on Saturday) but they'll get over it.

[Furtherman]

Begging the Q. Is our stance that human life is more important correct?

Sure seems so, ...

But not on this board!

I'm really surprised how many people answered the question seriously "family pet".

I would save the drowning stranger. I don't even see a choice in the matter and I have loved a family pet.

And honestly, I think most of you who chose "family pet" would feel your sense of humanity kick in at that very moment and save the stranger. If you didn't, well, then the shame would be on you.

[GregFromBuffalo]

Family Pet...it is kind of scary that I even forced myself to really think about this and there still is not a doubt in my mind what I would do...I've only seen my father cry twice in my life(what a pussy). When my grandmother died, and when he had to put to sleep the 2 yr. old Irish Wolfhound who had a brain tumor that he bought for over $1000 ...and that was early 1980's canadian money...Come to think of it, what the fuck was wrong with him? I wonder where I get it from...Ho Hum..oh well.

[Death Metal Moe]

Heart would say pet.

Head would say stranger.

The guilt of letting another human die would far outweigh grief over loosing a pet.

I'm an animal lover but c'mon? What if this stranger had children? I couldn't live with myself.

That post pretty much sums up how I feel too. Either way I'd feel bad that one died but I put more value in a human life.

[TheMojoPin]

I think you somehow get people into this situation, they go with the person with natural instinct, even if they're tossing out cutesy "I'D SAVE MY PET MR. WIGGLEFLUMP!!!" answers in the safety of this thread.

[FUNKMAN]

Save the stranger. I can't even see one reason I would save the pet over a person...

one word " dog fuckers "

[Mike Teacher]

I think I may have won the award for quickest ron fez dot net thread to shit the bed as a show bit. I think it lasted 15 seconds. Maybe ten.

[JPMNICK]

I would drown the Pet.

[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

Like I even need to answer this?

[JPMNICK]

Alice would drown a Family Member over a Stangers Pet

[FUNKMAN]

i would just splash e'm, get water in their eyes and up their noses

[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

Alice would drown a Family Member over a Stangers Pet

And?

[Fat_Sunny]

I think I may have won the award for quickest ron fez dot net thread to shit the bed as a show bit. I think it lasted 15 seconds. Maybe ten.

Hee Hee....It Was Kinda Short. F_S Would Say Closer To 10 than 15. :D

[epitaph]

can i use the stranger to replace the family pet. i mean the stranger should feel some obligation to me (since i saved him/her and all). And my children would be sad that the our pet is dead and all. no one likes seeing children cry, except pedophiles. AND THAT MAKES A WHOLE NEW QUESTION... what if the stranger i save turns out to be a pedophile?

ill save the pet...just in case.

[cougarjake13]

you know to be honest i can sit here and post what i think i would do in the hypothetical situation but if ever presented with the real situation i may act differently


so under hypothetical rules i would say i'd go for wilson


http://www.timefordvd.com/images/stills/CastAway_Wilson_small.jpg



seriously though i'd go for the pet under the hypothetical rules

[BoondockSaint]

I think I may have won the award for quickest ron fez dot net thread to shit the bed as a show bit. I think it lasted 15 seconds. Maybe ten.


You should have made it, "How many 9 year olds could you drown?"

[Bulldogcakes]

Reading the stem cell thread made me think of something related to this.

If you look at the human genome, it has remnants of every evolutionary change we've gone through as a species. We have traces of Ape DNA, Lower primate DNA, all the way down to reptile DNA from our evolutionary beginnings. The difference between Chimp DNA and Human DNA is less than 1%.
(http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10994885/)

We share more in common with the animal world than we care to admit, but its a fact. So if you save your dog YOU ARE SAVING YOUR LOOOONG LONG LONG LOST COUSIN!!!

[Fallon]

Would you save this dog?

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070623/capt.feef3f26bc594e739b90cb872ae84ba6.ugly_dog_cab m109.jpg?x=380&y=306&sig=vNqgDELapNcckeIWNLKRww--

[Fat_Sunny]

Would you save this dog?

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070623/capt.feef3f26bc594e739b90cb872ae84ba6.ugly_dog_cab m109.jpg?x=380&y=306&sig=vNqgDELapNcckeIWNLKRww--

Fallon's Dog Pic Is The New UGLIEST DOG Contest Winner, And It Is From New Jersey...YAY!!!

But F_S Thinks The New Ugliest Dog Doesn't Hold A Candle To SAM, The Prior Ugliest Dog Winner Who Died A year Or So Ago. Hi Sam!

http://www.resourceinvestor.com/MediaLib/Images/Home/Blog/dog.jpg



Either Way, In The Drowning Challenge, If It Were Fallon's Dog Or Ugly Sam On The One Hand And Barbara Streisand On The Other Hand, F_S Would Save The Drowning Ugly Dog.

It's Not Even A Close Call!!!

[JPMNICK]

people that have dogs this ugly must be the biggest attention whores. I bet they bring these things with them everyone just so people come up to them and talk.

[PapaBear]

Attention whore or not, at least she saved the dog's life.

[Reynolds]

A stranger's baby, or your adult friend?