You must set the ad_network_ads.txt file to be writable (check file name as well).
Big Brother getting bigger [Archive] - RonFez.net Messageboard

PDA

View Full Version : Big Brother getting bigger


Yerdaddy
06-12-2007, 07:34 PM
Last month Rupert Murdoch made an offer of, $5 billion dollars for the Dow Jones Co., the parent company of the Wall Street Journal. Murdoch. The Bancroft family, which has owned a controlling interest in the company for over a century, had been resisting the courtship of Murdoch because of his record of using his news companies of pushing his political and business agendas. The Wall Street Journal is one of the most reputable newspapers in the world precisely because the family has protected it from corporate takeover and executive interference by keeping it in the family and allowing journalism professionals run the company. All the best newspapers in America, like the New York Times and the Washington Post, have been able to maintain their high journalism standards only through the patronage of a rich enough family determined to defend the journalistic independence of their papers. (USA Today is all corporate and it sucks.) But it looks like Murdoch made the Bancrofts an offer they can’t refuse – offering $60 for shares that were trading at around $35 at the time. It looks like they’re going to sell.

The family is reported to be negotiating with Murdoch over an agreement to set up some system to guarantee that Murdoch will not be able to interfere with the workings of the Journal. He promises he won’t. But the Times of London and Sunday Times had a similar system in place when Murdoch bought them in 1981, but within a year he had torn the system down despite agreeing to keep it in place. The Bancrofts will no doubt try to make the firewall stronger to keep Murdoch’s fingers out of the news room, but it will only be a matter of time. The Wall Street Journal’s days as a newspaper that can be trusted are numbered.

Apparently what Murdoch wants the Journal for is to create a cable TV financial network to compete with CNBC, currently the king of the format. He wants to tie his network to the business journalism of the Journal – and its reputation as the best business journalism in the field. (The Journal currently has a contract to share its journalists with CNBC for the next five years. He’ll have to buy that contract out.) He’ll have to try to maintain the reputation of the Journal’s reporting, but I’m not seeing anyone who predicts he’ll be able to resist influencing the reporting – he’s going to want a pro-corporate news channel and so he’ll need a pro-corporate Journal, not an independent one. So while the Journal becomes more successful, (it hasn’t been well managed in recent years), it will come to use its power to insist it’s reputable while it loses more and more of its credibility. We will see it get into trouble with spurious reporting and its investigations of big business will drop off, but it will be duly defended as gospel on Murdoch’s other news companies like Fox “News” and The New York Post as well as this new cable network.

The Journal, already the second biggest newspaper in America after USA Today, is going to get bigger and more profitable, but it’s contribution to the public’s knowledge of what’s going on in the world will disappear proportionally. Big business and ideological extremism win; we lose.

A Trust Murdoch Won't Keep (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/30/AR2007053002019_pf.html)
By Matt Pottinger
Thursday, May 31, 2007; A19

Dear Shareholders of Dow Jones & Co.:

I am writing you from Anbar province in Iraq, where I am serving as a U.S. Marine. I don't get much time to read the news out here, but Rupert Murdoch's offer to acquire the Wall Street Journal is a story big enough to reach even this outpost. My comments on this subject come from two vantage points: first, as a reporter who worked for the Journal in China for nearly five years and, second, as someone who gave up that great job to become a Marine.

Reporting the news in a foreign country whose government has little respect for the truth taught me many things, among them the doggedness and skepticism that are helpful in my current job. But mostly it taught me that the Journal isn't a commodity -- it's a vital national resource. It is possible that there are only three or four U.S newspapers of its reach still willing to do what it takes to dig that last foot for a story and to strictly observe the "church-state" divisions among news, opinion and an owner's broader commercial interests.

It is no coincidence that Rupert Murdoch does not own such a paper. His mission is to blur the lines between church and state and infuse the blend with his own distinctive, lively brand of populist values. And let's face it, no one does it better. If you can find someone who doesn't love a New York Post headline, hook him up to a heart monitor, fast.

But while Murdoch's media products in the United States and Britain are well known, his operations in China, where I had a glimpse into their workings, are not. His News Corp. owned a substantial stake in Phoenix TV, a widely watched television network in China that routinely kowtows to the ruling Communist Party. As anyone who has seen Phoenix TV's news coverage knows, its self-censorship is routine.

In 2003, when the deadly SARS virus was threatening to trigger a global pandemic, the Chinese government persistently denied that its country contained the seeds of such an outbreak even though the simple reporting of this fact was the needed first step toward prevention of a monumental public health disaster. In the face of this coverup, a courageous Chinese surgeon drafted a detailed letter identifying SARS cases in Beijing itself and had it delivered to Murdoch's TV network for public broadcast. And what did the network do with the letter? The same thing any other obedient Chinese news agency would have done: nothing.

The surgeon's letter eventually found its way into the hands of Time magazine and the Wall Street Journal, which published stories on it. The Chinese government was finally forced to admit it had a health problem and to adopt measures that contained the spread of the virus.

Unfortunately, this example does not stand alone. When a NATO warplane bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade in 1999, I saw Murdoch's reporters at Phoenix TV use the event to fuel an anti-American propaganda orgy while hesitating to report the Clinton administration's apology and admission that the bombing was a mistake. You expect the Chinese government to behave this way, but didn't Murdoch recently write that he has "always respected the independence and integrity of the news organizations" with which he is associated?

It would be one thing if he confined his self-censorship to his Chinese publishing ventures, but I'm afraid he doesn't. Beijing goes out of its way to punish American corporations that produce news or films it finds offensive. Murdoch understands how the game works. In the mid-1990s, he dropped the BBC from his satellite broadcast system in Asia after Beijing complained about the British channel's news coverage. (He now claims that this was done strictly for commercial reasons.) Not long after that he canceled publication of a memoir by Hong Kong's last British governor, Chris Patten, whom Beijing had branded a "tango dancer" and a "whore" for his pro-democracy policies. (Murdoch claimed in the Financial Times last week that he "told the HarperCollins editors not to publish the Patten book because I did not think it would sell, but they went ahead anyway," thus requiring his kill shot. Again, that was his right, but the result was nevertheless a form of meddling that would greatly harm the quality of news reported by the Wall Street Journal.) Writers for more than one of Murdoch's newspapers say that they have periodically come under pressure to soft-pedal China-related coverage. Can you imagine the Wall Street Journal, which has won two Pulitzer Prizes this decade for its China coverage, considering such a thing?

Murdoch is not an editorial ogre but a smart, charming businessman with a pioneering style of journalism that has its place in a free country. His editorial support of America's troops is generous, and he has created a fresh point of view with Fox News. I'm also told he keeps his hands off the Australian, one of the many newspapers he owns. But the Wall Street Journal is not Fox News or the Australian, and its mission is not their mission. China will be the biggest story of the 21st century. Its policies and progress must be understood and reported fearlessly. Beyond that, the Journal brings us a quality of news that's not only unusual but important to our future.

Several days ago in western Iraq, an unseen guerrilla detonated a bomb moments after my fellow Marines and I had driven over it. Marines call near misses like this a "gut check." I know why I took certain risks working for the Journal, and I know why I take them as a Marine, and while I still haven't figured out how to say it without sounding too earnest, high-minded and patriotic, I'll say it anyway: Some things in America need to be protected, and none more than a free and intrepid press. Because no one exercises that role better than the Journal, the loss of its rigorous, undiluted reporting would be a hole in America's heart deeper than that hole in the road.

The writer is a former Wall Street Journal reporter now serving as a second lieutenant in the Marine Corps.

spoon
06-12-2007, 07:54 PM
Bad news yerdaddy, bad news. Worse than a ladyboydickdart hit to the the shins.

FUNKMAN
06-12-2007, 08:14 PM
funny! i just posted what I do for a living and I see this thread and Dow Jones is the company I've worked for for the past 19 years...

i have no clue what will happen so i try not to pay it any mind

Ritalin
06-12-2007, 08:24 PM
You know, I'm all for trustworthy disparate voices in the media, but honestly, I don't think that a Murdoch takeover of the Journal is going to affect to overall level of coverage that most Americans get. I think that what's happening here is the further stratification of information, where most of America gets fed the kind of news it craves and deserves - distilled, celebrity-driven, and overtly slanted to one political leaning or the other. I don't read the Journal now, but I recognize that it makes an effort outside of it's editorial page to get the story right. If Murdoch takes it over then I'll have to find another source of trustworthy, right-leaning news.

Because I read all news with a jaundiced eye. In my mind, there's little difference between the NY Post and the Huffington Post. They each have their own agenda. The trick these days for the average citizen is to find the balance, to find at least two news outlets that one can use to find the middle ground. The WSJ is just a brand to Murdoch, a name to attach to a network. It's sad that it's legacy will be lost, but there is no sentimentality in the digital age. If the print edition were making enough money, the Bancroft's wouldn't be thinking of selling. But, unfortunately, in these days if you're not squeezing every dollar out of every revenue source possible, you're vunerable.

It's sad but true. Capitalism and information don't mix so well, at least to an old bird like me.

Fat_Sunny
06-12-2007, 08:30 PM
As A Right-Leaning Libertarian, F_S HATES The "Bigifying" Of Business In The US (And The World). Whether It's Wal-Mart Or Home Depot In Retailing, Or Murdock In The Media, More Size Means Less Choice.

Teddy Roosevelt Had The RIght Idea!

high fly
06-12-2007, 09:19 PM
Murdoch is to publications as Fox is to tv networks....

Yerdaddy
06-12-2007, 09:27 PM
You know, I'm all for trustworthy disparate voices in the media, but honestly, I don't think that a Murdoch takeover of the Journal is going to affect to overall level of coverage that most Americans get. I think that what's happening here is the further stratification of information, where most of America gets fed the kind of news it craves and deserves - distilled, celebrity-driven, and overtly slanted to one political leaning or the other. I don't read the Journal now, but I recognize that it makes an effort outside of it's editorial page to get the story right. If Murdoch takes it over then I'll have to find another source of trustworthy, right-leaning news.

There's only a handful of news organizations that do real, unbiased journalism. They're all print media or news outlets like AP and Reuters. The TV news and most small papers get their national and international news from these national newspapers or outlets. The loss of the Journal is like the loss of a news distributor rather than a single franchise. It's one of the last sources of real investigative reporting - the kind of journalism that breaks stories like Watergate and the shitty conditions of returning vets at Walter Reed Hospital. It is the news for those who don't give a fuck who Brad Pitt is married to this week. And it's going to be turned into one of the tabloid-spinzones that feeds us the news-substitute that I think we both agree is hurtful to the nation. I think it will have a significant impact on the amount of information we citizens have available to act as responsible citizens. It will definitely mean big stories will never be broke because the Journal won't be digging for important stories.

Because I read all news with a jaundiced eye. In my mind, there's little difference between the NY Post and the Huffington Post. They each have their own agenda. The trick these days for the average citizen is to find the balance, to find at least two news outlets that one can use to find the middle ground. The WSJ is just a brand to Murdoch, a name to attach to a network. It's sad that it's legacy will be lost, but there is no sentimentality in the digital age. If the print edition were making enough money, the Bancroft's wouldn't be thinking of selling. But, unfortunately, in these days if you're not squeezing every dollar out of every revenue source possible, you're vunerable.

It's sad but true. Capitalism and information don't mix so well, at least to an old bird like me.

In terms of finding "balance" in news, can I suggest instead of picking a source from each "side" and try to pick two sources that don't have a side - or at least have an institutional incentive to not have a side. It's a common theory that the two "sides" are two halves of the same whole, but they're really more like two liars spewing bullshit about the same subjects. So if you read two of them all you get is a double helping of bullshit.

A.J.
06-13-2007, 03:46 AM
Big Brother getting bigger

"And Leon is getting LARGER!"

http://www.bgu.ac.il/noar/students/interhug967/gil/tv-movie/airplane/johnny.jpg

Ritalin
06-13-2007, 03:48 AM
There's only a handful of news organizations that do real, unbiased journalism. They're all print media or news outlets like AP and Reuters. The TV news and most small papers get their national and international news from these national newspapers or outlets. The loss of the Journal is like the loss of a news distributor rather than a single franchise. It's one of the last sources of real investigative reporting - the kind of journalism that breaks stories like Watergate and the shitty conditions of returning vets at Walter Reed Hospital. It is the news for those who don't give a fuck who Brad Pitt is married to this week. And it's going to be turned into one of the tabloid-spinzones that feeds us the news-substitute that I think we both agree is hurtful to the nation. I think it will have a significant impact on the amount of information we citizens have available to act as responsible citizens. It will definitely mean big stories will never be broke because the Journal won't be digging for important stories.



In terms of finding "balance" in news, can I suggest instead of picking a source from each "side" and try to pick two sources that don't have a side - or at least have an institutional incentive to not have a side. It's a common theory that the two "sides" are two halves of the same whole, but they're really more like two liars spewing bullshit about the same subjects. So if you read two of them all you get is a double helping of bullshit.

I agree. You're saying what I was trying to say but couldn't, because I'm kinda slow.

SatCam
06-13-2007, 09:05 AM
what does the title of this thread have to with the actual topic of it?

Yerdaddy
06-13-2007, 09:24 AM
what does the title of this thread have to with the actual topic of it?

It's a subliminal reference to penises. I wanted to make sure you'd read it.

scottinnj
06-13-2007, 07:29 PM
It's a subliminal reference to penises. I wanted to make sure you'd read it.

You had me at "Big"


I have to agree with you on this. Murdoch's Fox News has morphed into a 24 hour "opinion" network, and the only good thing about it is some of the shows have "left/right" discussions on the day's news stories. I think "the grapevine" on Brit Humes' show is great and the hour long newscast is the best thing on Fox News. O'Reilly has been preaching to the choir about immigration and kid touchers for a long time, and I am tired of seeing Mexicans jumping the fence and pictures of pedophiles in orange jumpsuits shown on O'Reilly's Factor show on a nightly basis.

I am with Fat_Sunny and Teddy Roosevelt when it comes to large coporations and government.....make them smaller. I am against the XM/Sirius Merger, I have seen the consequences of the mergers between Texaco/Shell, Exxon/Mobil and other oil companies that are partially at fault for less competition and higher prices.
Newspaper journalists are the ones who do the dirty work getting the facts in regards to a big story. Television news anchors just read teleprompters. The Wall Street Journal is a great paper. It breaks stories about government corruption and corporate shenanigans regardless of who is in the White House or in charge of whatever coporation that is stealing our retirements.

Ed Schultz touched on something too, how Time Magazine got the USPS mailing rates so screwed up in the last postage stamp hike it puts smaller magazines like the liberal "American Prospect" and the conservative "Weekly Standard" on an uneven playing field with Time and Newsweek and U.S. News and World Report because the smaller guys have to charge higher postage rates compared to the bigger boys in the market.

jennysmurf
06-13-2007, 07:54 PM
one word...socialism. or ice cream. ice cream makes everything better. unless you're lactose intolerant, then ice cream won't help. so, we'll go with socialism, cause that'll work even for the lactose intolerant among us.

Yerdaddy
06-13-2007, 10:41 PM
Here's an example of what we will be losing with the Journal - the "long" investigative pieces:

CALLING THE SHOTS - In Murdoch's Career, A Hand on the News (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118100557923424501.html?mod=hpp_us_pageone)(soun ds dirty but it's not. Sorry.)

As Rupert Murdoch advances in his bid to buy The Wall Street Journal and its parent, Dow Jones & Co., a central issue is whether he will preserve the independence of its news operations -- and keep his own views and commercial interests from coloring what appears in the paper's news pages.

Since his $5 billion offer became public last month, some members of the Bancroft family, which controls Dow Jones, have expressed skepticism about his promise to preserve the paper's independence. Another big shareholder, James Ottaway Jr., declared that Mr. Murdoch has long "expressed his personal, political and business biases through his newspapers and television stations." Even as the family shifted last week from opposing the bid and met with Mr. Murdoch yesterday to discuss his offer, it began talking about ways to set up a mechanism for safeguarding the paper's editorial independence. (See related story.)

A detailed examination of Mr. Murdoch's half-century career as a journalist and businessman shows that his newspapers and other media outlets have made coverage decisions that advanced the interests of his sprawling media conglomerate, News Corp. In the process, Mr. Murdoch has blurred a line that exists at many other U.S. media companies between business and news sides -- a line intended to keep the business and political interests of owners from influencing the presentation of news.

Mr. Murdoch's focus on News Corp.'s bottom line has often allowed market considerations to influence editorial moves, and different markets have led to starkly different approaches. In the U.S., Fox News has thrived by tilting to the right, filling a niche left open by its network and cable rivals. In Italy, a 24-hour television news channel launched by Mr. Murdoch in 2003 has positioned itself as a relatively reliable and objective source of news -- in contrast to the political bias of Italy's more-established channels.

At all newspapers, owners have a say in broad editorial direction. Mr. Murdoch has a long history of being unusually aggressive, reflecting his roots as an old-fashioned press baron. From his earliest days, like some other newspaper proprietors of the last century, he ran his companies with his hands directly on the daily product, peppering reporters and editors with suggestions and criticisms.


Over the years, Mr. Murdoch and his lieutenants have raised hackles for their involvement in the company's news operations. Former top editors at two of his London papers, for example, say he ignored an independent board set up to protect them from his interference, and got involved directly in firings in the 1980s. In Australia, the former editor of one of his top papers complains that a News Corp. executive pushed him for critical coverage of pilots in a strike that was hurting a News Corp. airline investment. In China, former employees say Mr. Murdoch's representatives occasionally pushed reporters to do more upbeat stories, at a time when News Corp. was seeking government help to expand its reach there. The reporters there didn't listen and kept up their often critical coverage.

Just last month, News Corp.'s Daily Telegraph, Sydney's largest newspaper, devoted more than half its front page to News Corp.'s own plan to lower carbon emissions. An accompanying editorial proclaimed that Mr. Murdoch "has never set a standard more worthy of following."

Shown a copy of the Daily Telegraph stories, Mr. Murdoch laughed, and said, "I don't know anything about that. And we sure didn't do that in the [New York] Post, which I'm closest to." Asked if the Sydney paper's coverage that day was in effect promoting News Corp., he replied, "Absolutely. Shouldn't be. That's bad."


That's basically the introduction. The rest - 11 pages in Word - is the history of Murdoch's interference with his newspapers' content based on numerous interviews with primary sources including Murdoch. It's what makes the Journal great and valuable, and it's going to be gone. In another interview I read but can't find Murdoch comes out and says he doen't like the long pieces in the Journal.