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LordJezo
06-11-2007, 04:27 AM
I Am Legend - Trailer. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX773fMkS90)

The book that the movie The Omega Man was based on is being made into a movie, I Am Legend. Instead of an older white man (Heston) playing the lead role we now have a fit sexy black man (Will Smith).

The trailer looks pretty cool. I hope its as awesome as the Heston version. I just ordered the book to give myself a head start for this winter.

JoeYaDeadHomey
06-11-2007, 04:34 AM
looks better than th heston version, much more true to the book, the only change i can see so far is they changed LA for nyc.

that and yanno.. will smith is black.

the book was great though, if i may make a suggestion, instead of the novel get the IDW comics adaptation it has the entire story, with great art, and an awesome last page that makes it all worth it.

also about the movie if i remember johnny depp, is playing his neighbor who was a fat bald guy.... but w/e looks neat, ill defintiely go.

one last thing, it was also a movie in the fifties, called the last man on earth. that was good stuff.

Tenbatsuzen
06-11-2007, 05:01 AM
I liked the shot of the Mustang going through the streets. That was cool, but it kinda looked CGI - like Grand Theft Auto or something.

FUNKMAN
06-11-2007, 05:49 AM
i remember being so disappointed in the heston one when he got speared in the end. after going through all that effort to survive

MadMatt
06-11-2007, 06:02 AM
I liked the shot of the Mustang going through the streets. That was cool, but it kinda looked CGI - like Grand Theft Auto or something.

I kept thinking of Anthony Cumia, tearing through the streets, wearing a leg brace on a healthy leg, and shooting anything he sees.

I am so tempted to read the book, but I really don't want to ruin the movie. I learned my lesson with "Jurrasic Park."

Chigworthy
06-11-2007, 06:55 AM
I just noticed that Will Smith will play Neville in a new movie version of this classic novel. Also, the director has made videos for Britney Spears, Jennifer Lopez, and Green Day. Christ, I am so close to moving to a cabin in Alaska.

I can only imagine this being a steaming pile.

King Imp
06-11-2007, 08:10 AM
Looks cool and since I loved the Omega Man, I will definitely be checking this out.

Quick question though. In the trailer he says it's day 1001, which would be roughly 2 years and 9 months. Would the city be that overrun with grass and weeds?

P.S. Did you see those gas prices? :eek:

Furtherman
06-11-2007, 08:35 AM
Quick question though. In the trailer he says it's day 1001, which would be roughly 2 years and 9 months. Would the city be that overrun with grass and weeds?

Possibly. Discover has a good article saying what will happen if humans were to just disappear. It explains what would happen in NYC:

However, it wouldn’t take long for nature to undo even the likes of a New York City. Jameel Ahmad, civil engineering department chair at Cooper Union College in New York City, says repeated freezing and thawing common in months like March and November would split cement within a decade, allowing water to seep in. As it, too, froze and expanded, cracks would widen. Soon, weeds such as mustard and goosegrass would invade. With nobody to trample seedlings, New York’s prolific exotic, the Chinese ailanthus tree, would take over. Within five years, says Dennis Stevenson, senior curator at the New York Botanical Garden, ailanthus roots would heave up sidewalks and split sewers.

That would exacerbate a problem that already plagues New York—rising groundwater. There’s little soil to absorb it or vegetation to transpire it, and buildings block the sunlight that could evaporate it. With the power off, pumps that keep subways from flooding would be stilled. As water sluiced away soil beneath pavement, streets would crater.

What would happen to our planet if the mighty hand of humanity simply disappeared? (http://discovermagazine.com/2005/feb/earth-without-people)

King Imp
06-11-2007, 09:10 AM
Quick question though. In the trailer he says it's day 1001, which would be roughly 2 years and 9 months. Would the city be that overrun with grass and weeds?

Possibly. Discover has a good article saying what will happen if humans were to just disappear. It explains what would happen in NYC:


What would happen to our planet if the mighty hand of humanity simply disappeared? (http://discovermagazine.com/2005/feb/earth-without-people)

Very, very interesting. Thank you for this info.

King Hippos Bandaid
06-11-2007, 09:20 AM
Hes my Arch Enemy , dont you see what he is doing to me in my Avitar, oh you said Omega Man, 3

:king:

suggums
06-11-2007, 10:29 AM
Don't forget the best example of this, Chernobyl!

a haunting gallery
(http://www.englishrussia.com/?p=293)

Chigworthy
06-11-2007, 12:07 PM
Around here, gas stations are constantly having to tear up their old tanks and replace them with new enviro-friendly ones. So Mom and Pop stations are going out of business because it is very expensive. These stations turn into abandoned weed lots in about a month while a chain company is buying them.

razorboy
06-11-2007, 12:15 PM
The book was great. This pile is being directed by a music video director whos crowning achievement was Constantine, and adapted by the same ass who adapted I Robot for Will Smith. This should be a disaster.

legroommusic
06-11-2007, 01:43 PM
they should 've called it Onigga man

Contra
06-12-2007, 03:42 AM
I can't believe I've never seen Omega Man. Always heard about it, but never caught it. I saw the trailor for I Am Legend, but not knowing the base material I didn't quite get it. Everyone evacuates except him?

Chigworthy
06-12-2007, 05:05 AM
[QUOTE=Contra;1350733]I can't believe I've never read I Am Legend. QUOTE]

Fixed it.

JoeYaDeadHomey
06-12-2007, 03:08 PM
i cannot stress enough..

READ THE BOOK!!

also, READ THE IDW COMIC ADAPTATION! might actually be better than the book.

Furtherman
10-24-2007, 10:12 AM
<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/NXnTp6IFuys&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/NXnTp6IFuys&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

I'm there.

pennington
10-24-2007, 10:43 AM
I'll rent the DVD.

MadMatt
10-24-2007, 12:13 PM
I am looking forward to this one. Of course I am a sucker for Will Smith movies for some reason. Maybe because he reminds of my brother, but I don't know...

As much as I want to, I still don't think I will read the book until AFTER I see the movie. There is almost no way the movie will be as good (they never are), and I don't want to ruin the movie experience. It's bad enough that I know the plot already (at least RE: the book).

Chigworthy
10-24-2007, 04:15 PM
Wow they really butchered the story.

BeerBandit
10-25-2007, 04:18 AM
I haven't checked out the cast yet, will Will Smith's character have the Reverse Jungle Fever. It always struck me that in a 1971 flick, Charleton Heston's character made it with a sister.

Furtherman
12-12-2007, 09:02 AM
How to Build a True Urban Jungle (http://nymag.com/movies/features/41551/)

http://nymag.com/movies/features/iamlegend071210_560b.jpg

fezident
12-12-2007, 04:53 PM
they should 've called it Onigga man



I laughed.

pennington
12-12-2007, 07:29 PM
Will Smith is making the rounds and I saw a clip showing him trying to get his wife and kids out of NYC.

Prediction: they're going to spend too much time, maybe an hour, on the events leading up to him being the survivor. Get to the part that people want to see.

pennington
12-12-2007, 07:30 PM
I haven't checked out the cast yet, will Will Smith's character have the Reverse Jungle Fever. It always struck me that in a 1971 flick, Charleton Heston's character made it with a sister.

In the clip I saw, his wife was white.

thepaulo
12-12-2007, 07:58 PM
......which is The Last Man on Earth without Vincent Price........

fezident
12-14-2007, 12:09 AM
I just saw it and I thought it great.
Nobody in the theater agreed with me though. People really seemed to hate it. There were a few people booing when it was over and everybody was grumbling while shuffling out.

But I really liked it.
It wasn't a mindless splatterfest. It had a lot of dramatic elements and plenty o' scenes of love & loss, etc. Maybe that's why the audience didn't dig it. They weren't expecting to have think about this one.

Screw 'em. It's a solid movie.

thepaulo
12-14-2007, 01:27 AM
on the plus side.....intelligent character development
on the minus side ...crappy CGI

HBox
12-14-2007, 12:36 PM
I just got back from seeing this. this movie was blah. Aside from a few cheap scares I didn't feel much of anything about it, good or bad.

Aside from one thing. I love how they portray the news at the beginning of the movie, having the cure for cancer featured in a throwaway interview, after sports of course.

Chigworthy
12-14-2007, 12:38 PM
I can't see movies mad out of books I like anymore. It always makes me angry. I'm still scared to see No Country.

HBox
12-14-2007, 12:40 PM
damn It Fred! Damn It!

fezident
12-14-2007, 12:45 PM
I don't know aboot you guys but, in my theater... there was a dramatic scene that got a hearty unintentional laugh.
When Neville is screaming that "everybody we ever knew is dead. DEAD! DEAD!!"

The audience really found that part hilarious. I don't think it was supposed to be received that way.

HBox
12-14-2007, 12:47 PM
I love how he totally sacrificed that chick he cured without even a thought.

cougarjake13
12-15-2007, 01:28 PM
overall a very good movie

they had one scene where they were in times square and there was a movie poster that had the batman logo on top of a superman logo kinda like the comic book out now


one pet peeve, in the opening scene they had a chick on tv and at the bottom was a crawl and it said the patriots beat the giants for the second time this year

unless in 2009 (The year the movie starts out in ) the giants move into the pats division theres no way they would play twice in one season unless it was the super bowl which if it was it would have said it

thejives
12-15-2007, 01:33 PM
overall a very good movie

they had one scene where they were in times square and there was a movie poster that had the batman logo on top of a superman logo kinda like the comic book out now


one pet peeve, in the opening scene they had a chick on tv and at the bottom was a crawl and it said the patriots beat the giants for the second time this year

unless in 2009 (The year the movie starts out in ) the giants move into the pats division theres no way they would play twice in one season unless it was the super bowl which if it was it would have said it

Man. You watch a movie with a magnifying glass.
Thanks for the heads up on these...

midwestjeff
12-15-2007, 01:37 PM
I love how he totally sacrificed that chick he cured without even a thought.

I'm taking my nephews to see this in two hours.
Why would I look at the spoiler thingy?
What if it ruins the whole movie?
Must block it out.
Oh, and yes, there will be inappropriate touching.
God bless my sis for having three beautiful, tight-lipped boys.
Is it possible to offend oneself? Because I think I just crossed my own line.

cougarjake13
12-15-2007, 01:46 PM
Man. You watch a movie with a magnifying glass.
Thanks for the heads up on these...

well both happen in the first five minutes before you get into the story and stop looking at background shit

cougarjake13
12-15-2007, 01:47 PM
I'm taking my nephews to see this in two hours.
Why would I look at the spoiler thingy?
What if it ruins the whole movie?
Must block it out.
Oh, and yes, there will be inappropriate touching.
God bless my sis for having three beautiful, tight-lipped boys.
Is it possible to offend oneself? Because I think I just crossed my own line.



that wont ruin the movie for you

HBox
12-15-2007, 02:19 PM
well both happen in the first five minutes before you get into the story and stop looking at background shit

You can't miss that Batman Superman thing. They were pretty much placing an ad for it in their own movie.

donnie_darko
12-15-2007, 02:31 PM
i enjoyed the movie.

i knew they wouldn't stay too true to the book, i mean who would want to see a movie that depressing? I mean seriously, in the book there's no cure and everyone dies....

I'm sure people were already upset that will smith died at the end, people are fucking retarded.

i'm glad they dropped the V word from it, and just made it a generic sort of zombie viral thing.

i still don't see why he just walked up to fred though, butanwhoo

fezident
12-16-2007, 07:27 AM
Yeah, that Batman/Superman logo wasn't exactly subtle. It might as well've been glowing in the dark!
I didn't even know that movie was in development. Especially now that the JUSTICE LEAGUE movie has been greenlit.


Along these same lines: There was a similar shot in that new Disney movie ENCHANTED. James Marsden's character is in Times Square.... and there it is... larger than life... a HUGE ad for the SUPERMAN RETURNS dvd. It had to be 8 stories tall. Marsden was in that movie too. Even though Superman isn't a Disney property... it definitely seemed like a little wink to the camera.

HBox
12-16-2007, 04:12 PM
This thing made 76.5 million in the middle of December. WTF? (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22285096/)

Judge Smails
12-16-2007, 04:16 PM
I was going to see this over the weekend. I took my son and his friend. At the last minute, while we're waiting on line for tickets, they both chickened out and conspired against me. They both whined and complained until I gave in. We saw the Chipmunk movie instead. Fatherhood is fucking great, aint it?

zentraed
12-16-2007, 04:50 PM
overall a very good movie

they had one scene where they were in times square and there was a movie poster that had the batman logo on top of a superman logo kinda like the comic book out now


one pet peeve, in the opening scene they had a chick on tv and at the bottom was a crawl and it said the patriots beat the giants for the second time this year

unless in 2009 (The year the movie starts out in ) the giants move into the pats division theres no way they would play twice in one season unless it was the super bowl which if it was it would have said it

I'm pretty sure I saw an XM logo at one point too.

I enjoyed this one, and people at the theater seemed to enjoy it too. Plenty of tension, and a little humor too.

pittphantoms
12-16-2007, 06:50 PM
My theatre was packed tonight for a 7:00 PM showing - unheard of where I live...

Anyway the theatre hated it. People were laughing at the end...

I thought it was ok - the CGI was bad... but my problem was I thought there could be more. I would love to know why when he goes after Sam that the things are huddled in a circle... I didnt get it. Lots of cool little things, but I did think there was a lot of placement in the movie too - which was kind of anoying. This was definately a movie made out of a book - and I should have just read the book.

HBox
12-16-2007, 06:59 PM
I was going to see this over the weekend. I took my son and his friend. At the last minute, while we're waiting on line for tickets, they both chickened out and conspired against me. They both whined and complained until I gave in. We saw the Chipmunk movie instead. Fatherhood is fucking great, aint it?

You sure they like girls?

LordJezo
12-17-2007, 03:40 AM
Just talked to someone who saw it over the weekend and had her tell me all about it. I haven't seen the movie but I read the book. The movie ending sounds like total shit. Why call a movie I Am Legend if they take out the entire purpose of calling it that? The ending was the key to the entire book and now this sounds like another dumb action movie.

drusilla
12-19-2007, 09:10 PM
You can't miss that Batman Superman thing. They were pretty much placing an ad for it in their own movie.

there was another batman placement that you may not catch: when will smith is checking the almanac he uses a joker card as a bookmark. & its the same type of card as in the new batman movie.


i liked it i think. i guess i didn't really have any issues with it at all. but i never read the book. now i'm curious to see how the book ends. it was pretty fucked up, but i guess i liked that about it. my boyfriend thought the movie was too heavy. it just put him in a shitty mood afterwards. the dog scene got him the most.

chubbyknuckles
12-19-2007, 09:25 PM
I just saw it and I thought it great.
Nobody in the theater agreed with me though. People really seemed to hate it. There were a few people booing when it was over and everybody was grumbling while shuffling out.

But I really liked it.
It wasn't a mindless splatterfest. It had a lot of dramatic elements and plenty o' scenes of love & loss, etc. Maybe that's why the audience didn't dig it. They weren't expecting to have think about this one.

Screw 'em. It's a solid movie.

I think it's because it built up the character more, and never delievered on all the build up. I Liked it for that reason. It wasn't all that cliche. The second it was over, i was thinking how i didn't like it because i felt cheated, but then when my brain kicked in, i liked it because of that.

jauble
12-20-2007, 12:04 AM
Did anyone else get the subtle Hitler feeling from this...he collects rare art, kills his own german shepard, dies in a bunker, etc?

drusilla
12-20-2007, 09:54 AM
whoa dude you're blowing my mind right now...

SeriouslySuprCJ
12-20-2007, 10:07 AM
Let me ask everyone who has seen it two questions. I won't put it behind a spoiler tag because it's not that big of a deal.

First, had did Anna get onto (and off) Manhattan? The bridges and tunnels were blown out. Did she take a boat? Did she bring her fancy UV car on the boat as well?

Second, who set the trap that caught Will Smith? I assume it was him since he was pretty insane and probably forgot, but I'm curious as to what other people thought. I just don't see the zombie-vampire things having the intelligence to do it, so I feel like it should have been made a little more clear.

Overall I give this movie a "meh." I didn't hate it, but I wasn't thrilled by it either. It was really depressing at parts though.

donnie_darko
12-20-2007, 10:11 AM
the change in ending from the book to the movie makes no sense.

all of his backup safeguards, and honestly if the house was fitted with internal UV lights which i'm sure would've been the first thing the worlds greatest scientist would've done....

but honestly who really expected this movie to follow the novel?
I doubt a test audience would've been too supportive of a movie in which "humans" all die while vampires take over with some sort of blood based AZT

drusilla
12-20-2007, 10:14 AM
Let me ask everyone who has seen it two questions. I won't put it behind a spoiler tag because it's not that big of a deal.

First, had did Anna get onto (and off) Manhattan? The bridges and tunnels were blown out. Did she take a boat? Did she bring her fancy UV car on the boat as well?

Second, who set the trap that caught Will Smith? I assume it was him since he was pretty insane and probably forgot, but I'm curious as to what other people thought. I just don't see the zombie-vampire things having the intelligence to do it, so I feel like it should have been made a little more clear.

Overall I give this movie a "meh." I didn't hate it, but I wasn't thrilled by it either. It was really depressing at parts though.

i had the same question about anna last night. my boyfriend said maybe they didnt blow up the tunnels or maybe they didn't get to blow everything up. i have no idea. i was thinking maybe a raft or a boat. but you would think that those would be used by the "zombies" to get off the island too.

so as for the trap, i think it was the alpha male. that was the most fucked up part of the movie for me. it was like holy shit, they are smart, this is going to be bad.

& what the fuck was with him not holding the rope as he was cutting himself down? how stupid. who does that?

SeriouslySuprCJ
12-20-2007, 10:57 AM
The thing is, if the Alpha Male was so smart why didn't he, I don't know, put on a shirt or something? Or why did he just bang his head on some glass to try to get to Will Smith? Why not pick up something and use that? I don't think they were that bright, even to the point where Will Smith (I love how in every movie he's in, no one refers to him by his character's name but rather as Will Smith) said they had lost all human intelligence.

Furthermore there's no reason for the Alpha Male to know about Fred. Will Smith only visited it during the daytime.

As for the rope...I don't know, it was a tiny little string. I doubt he could have held on. Still, when he was cutting at it I could only think "This isn't going to end well."

drusilla
12-20-2007, 12:14 PM
i dunno he did know how to control the rabid dogs, which i found weird.

but why would will smith bug out like that if he set it? that doesn't seem right. why would he put a mannequin out with a trap, if blood was pretty much the only thing that would work to lure them. he left other mannequins random places & that never seemed to have any purpose other than his own entertainment.

Gmann
12-20-2007, 01:08 PM
I'm sure people were already upset that will smith died at the end, people are fucking retarded


Gee thanks.

zentraed
12-20-2007, 01:16 PM
Let me ask everyone who has seen it two questions. I won't put it behind a spoiler tag because it's not that big of a deal.

First, had did Anna get onto (and off) Manhattan? The bridges and tunnels were blown out. Did she take a boat? Did she bring her fancy UV car on the boat as well?

Second, who set the trap that caught Will Smith? I assume it was him since he was pretty insane and probably forgot, but I'm curious as to what other people thought. I just don't see the zombie-vampire things having the intelligence to do it, so I feel like it should have been made a little more clear.

Overall I give this movie a "meh." I didn't hate it, but I wasn't thrilled by it either. It was really depressing at parts though.

I got the sense that he realized he had set the trap. Also, later on when he was standing on the pier, it reminded me of the mannequin scene and they just came after him. They eat people, ya know.

Chigworthy
12-20-2007, 01:47 PM
Every time I read this thread, my resolve to only illegally watch this shitheap is fortified.

cougarjake13
12-20-2007, 02:16 PM
Just talked to someone who saw it over the weekend and had her tell me all about it. I haven't seen the movie but I read the book. The movie ending sounds like total shit. Why call a movie I Am Legend if they take out the entire purpose of calling it that? The ending was the key to the entire book and now this sounds like another dumb action movie.

i think its going with theme of him curing the virus and he will be legendary b/c of that

cougarjake13
12-20-2007, 02:29 PM
Let me ask everyone who has seen it two questions. I won't put it behind a spoiler tag because it's not that big of a deal.

First, had did Anna get onto (and off) Manhattan? The bridges and tunnels were blown out. Did she take a boat? Did she bring her fancy UV car on the boat as well?

Second, who set the trap that caught Will Smith? I assume it was him since he was pretty insane and probably forgot, but I'm curious as to what other people thought. I just don't see the zombie-vampire things having the intelligence to do it, so I feel like it should have been made a little more clear.

Overall I give this movie a "meh." I didn't hate it, but I wasn't thrilled by it either. It was really depressing at parts though.



didnt even think about how she got on the island but i only remember them blowing up the bridges but if you look at a map you can get to manhattan which isnt really an island but they do call it that from the north from connecticut going south into upstate ny near white plains , etc. and into the bronx then manhattan


and i just figured that the alpha male was mimmicking what will did to his buddies earlier when he captured that chick for experiments

Flea_Man
12-20-2007, 03:35 PM
I Am Legend absolutely fucking blew. I'm really pissed because I was honestly hoping for an amazing blockbuster. I Am Shit is more like it.

Before I hate on it (which I am, I really hated it), I'll say some positives. Will Smith is once again top notch. The guy always gives his heart and is really passionate in whatever role he's in. There's one scene in the movie that made me on the edge of my seat. The part where the killer dogs are about to attack him and his dog, while the sunline keeps going down, is REALLY bone chilling. Was absolutely captured in that part. And when he has to kill his own dog cause it was infected… really sad. Easily the best two scenes in the movie were involving his love for the dog.

First off, the ending was a complete shitfest. They shit all over one of the most brilliant endings in a book. They raped the audience of having that awesome moment that you have in the book when you realize everything is really not what it seems to be. Sorry, I'm trying to be vague and not ruin it for anyone.

That whole thing with the butterfly was DOUCHECHILLING. So his daughter goes "look dad, a butterfly"… he sees a butterfly on that bitch's neck and gets all sad. UGH. Just seemed really forced about trying to show he had a connection.

The film didn't explain a number of things. One, how the fuck did that one mannequin Fred go from Union Square to Grand Central? Did the zombies move it to trick him? Just didn't make sense. Two, how did the zombies set up a trap to get him near Grand Central? That made no fucking sense. That was his own trap he didn't know about? That whole scene, other then the killer dogs, was full of plotholes and made me put my head in my hand and sign. Three, when the lady and her kid drove up to Vermont, they didn't run into the zombies once? They got all the way the fuck up 4 states without danger? Lazy writing.

Again, when those two metal doors at the end of the movie opened like Jurassic Park, and you see cottages, dogs, cows, and people all happy to live there? It completely sucked me out and reminded me almost of The Village. Was just too happy and Hollywood cheesy that it ruined what was once a great story.

Oh and one thing to everyone… no fucking action. The trailer and ads make it seem like he's going to be fighting zombies and killing things. Instead, he's running away, hiding in his bathtub, and avoiding them by talking to mannequins and playing golf. There's a pistol shot here or there. But I was hoping for some fucking SHOOT OUTS! I want the fresh prince taking an automatic and killing hundreds of these things. Have a rocket launcher and blow up a building that's full of them. Really deceiving. Instead you get flashbacks and chasing deer in a car.

Don't waste your time. If you are that interested, get a bootleg. Don't give Hollywood any more money to make another hyped up piece of trash with a terrible ending.

donnie_darko
12-20-2007, 03:55 PM
haha, funny flea man, you wanted lots of action, but you say you read the book....was their hidden action in the book i missed?

and you're out of your mind if you thought they would stick to the book, who wants to see a movie where everyone dies and there's no hope? Oh, lets rush out and see that!

imagine a test audience watching the movie that stuck to the book, hell i was waiting for anna to break the news to him, then i realized that she was the point where all ties to the book were lost.

so you had to be kidding yourself to expect anything less from a "blockbuster movie"

and obviously the head vampire set the trap, did any of you see that dawn of the dead remake with the one really smart zombie? Seriously, this is all retread.

and ANNA CLEARLY STATES SHE WAS ON A BOAT, so guess how she landed at a dock?? heh

if you people are confused with a will smith movie, stay far away from "i'm not there"

HBox
12-20-2007, 05:09 PM
I Am Legend absolutely fucking blew. I'm really pissed because I was honestly hoping for an amazing blockbuster. I Am Shit is more like it.

Before I hate on it (which I am, I really hated it), I'll say some positives. Will Smith is once again top notch. The guy always gives his heart and is really passionate in whatever role he's in. There's one scene in the movie that made me on the edge of my seat. The part where the killer dogs are about to attack him and his dog, while the sunline keeps going down, is REALLY bone chilling. Was absolutely captured in that part. And when he has to kill his own dog cause it was infected… really sad. Easily the best two scenes in the movie were involving his love for the dog.

First off, the ending was a complete shitfest. They shit all over one of the most brilliant endings in a book. They raped the audience of having that awesome moment that you have in the book when you realize everything is really not what it seems to be. Sorry, I'm trying to be vague and not ruin it for anyone.

That whole thing with the butterfly was DOUCHECHILLING. So his daughter goes "look dad, a butterfly"… he sees a butterfly on that bitch's neck and gets all sad. UGH. Just seemed really forced about trying to show he had a connection.

The film didn't explain a number of things. One, how the fuck did that one mannequin Fred go from Union Square to Grand Central? Did the zombies move it to trick him? Just didn't make sense. Two, how did the zombies set up a trap to get him near Grand Central? That made no fucking sense. That was his own trap he didn't know about? That whole scene, other then the killer dogs, was full of plotholes and made me put my head in my hand and sign. Three, when the lady and her kid drove up to Vermont, they didn't run into the zombies once? They got all the way the fuck up 4 states without danger? Lazy writing.

Again, when those two metal doors at the end of the movie opened like Jurassic Park, and you see cottages, dogs, cows, and people all happy to live there? It completely sucked me out and reminded me almost of The Village. Was just too happy and Hollywood cheesy that it ruined what was once a great story.

Oh and one thing to everyone… no fucking action. The trailer and ads make it seem like he's going to be fighting zombies and killing things. Instead, he's running away, hiding in his bathtub, and avoiding them by talking to mannequins and playing golf. There's a pistol shot here or there. But I was hoping for some fucking SHOOT OUTS! I want the fresh prince taking an automatic and killing hundreds of these things. Have a rocket launcher and blow up a building that's full of them. Really deceiving. Instead you get flashbacks and chasing deer in a car.

Don't waste your time. If you are that interested, get a bootleg. Don't give Hollywood any more money to make another hyped up piece of trash with a terrible ending.

You are why movies suck nowadays.

fezident
12-20-2007, 06:34 PM
I briefly wondered how what's-her-name got on and off Manhattan but, I just assumed that any and all boats were at her disposal.

As for the boobytrap thing, I thought it was kinda obvious that the main alpha-zombie set that trap. After all... he was waiting right there in the shadows with his two hell-hounds.

drusilla
12-20-2007, 09:34 PM
The film didn't explain a number of things. One, how the fuck did that one mannequin Fred go from Union Square to Grand Central? Did the zombies move it to trick him? Just didn't make sense. Two, how did the zombies set up a trap to get him near Grand Central? That made no fucking sense. That was his own trap he didn't know about? That whole scene, other then the killer dogs, was full of plotholes and made me put my head in my hand and sign. Three, when the lady and her kid drove up to Vermont, they didn't run into the zombies once? They got all the way the fuck up 4 states without danger? Lazy writing.



ok now i agree that you must be a douche. the fucking dogs were the biggest plot hole of the whole scene!!! how the fuck do you control rabid dogs???



As for the boobytrap thing, I thought it was kinda obvious that the main alpha-zombie set that trap. After all... he was waiting right there in the shadows with his two hell-hounds.


EXACTLY!!! will smith was wrong when he said they have lost all human instincts & called them stupid. the alpha male stuck his head out in the sun to show will smith that he was pissed off at him for trapping the chick. he didn't care that he would be harmed, he wanted his point to get across. & he was so pissed that he set the same fucking type of trap that will smith used on them to get back at him.



The thing is, if the Alpha Male was so smart why didn't he, I don't know, put on a shirt or something?



seriously????

drusilla
12-20-2007, 09:40 PM
and ANNA CLEARLY STATES SHE WAS ON A BOAT, so guess how she landed at a dock?? heh


ah must have missed when she said that. she was kinda annoying me anyway so i might have tuned her out a bit.


if you people are confused with a will smith movie, stay far away from "i'm not there"

don't worry, i was planning on staying far away from that movie

i think its going with theme of him curing the virus and he will be legendary b/c of that
^^^

LordJezo
12-21-2007, 03:54 AM
i think its going with theme of him curing the virus and he will be legendary b/c of that

For anyone who has read the book that is completely weak when compared to the original point of the title. The ending of the book was a complete HOLY CRAP NO WAY kind of thing, not this action packed nonsense they put out there for dumb American movie audiences.

I am normally not angry when they change things from a book to a movie but this was supposed to be a retelling of the book, not a remake of The Omega Man. The ruined their chance.

:furious:

SeriouslySuprCJ
12-21-2007, 05:07 AM
i dunno he did know how to control the rabid dogs, which i found weird.

but why would will smith bug out like that if he set it? that doesn't seem right. why would he put a mannequin out with a trap, if blood was pretty much the only thing that would work to lure them. he left other mannequins random places & that never seemed to have any purpose other than his own entertainment.

You know, I originally thought it was the alpha male as well until I started to look at the pieces of it. It doesn't really matter, though, I mean it's just a movie. My real point is I think they should have made it a little more clear.

Anyway, my shirt comment was kind've a joke. Though if they wore cloaks or something they'd be a lot better off! My real point was why didn't they learn to use any tools or guns perhaps.

As to the point you quoted above, though. When he was essentially trying to kill himself, he left out a mannequin and then sat in the dark. So I think that implies that he knows mannequins will attract the vampires. Also, it was mentioned why was the alpha male waiting on him there? Well Will Smith had been hanging and bleeding from his head for hours by that point, and not only that but his dog had been barking the entire time. I think that would have given the vampires plenty of time to move from building to building (Or subways maybe?) and get to him.

It's all moot, I just enjoy discussing lame things like that.

Edit: Oh, the fact that he was so very calm in his own trap too I think is an indicator that he knew he put it there. I'd be freaking out quite a bit more if, say, bears started laying traps for me.

Furtherman
12-24-2007, 12:09 PM
Will Smith gave an amazing performance of a man out of contact with anyone for so long. Every part of this movie surviving in NYC on his own was great.

The scene when he goes after Sam and run into a "hive" was f'n scary as hell. But I think they should have kept the zombies in the dark. Because the close up shots of their growling like a lion and their whole facial physical features change, i.e. the jaw drops like one of the mummies from "The Mummy", was just too much. The didn't seem like sickly cannibalistic humans, but just bad CGI monsters.

And the whole "butterfly" thing? Please. That just ruined the movie for me. I liked Smith's "They're all DEAD" speech because that's the way it would be in reality. There would be no help from on high, just one man's struggle to save it all.

And yea, the whole trap thing confused me too... was it set or did he forget? Because he never ackowleged that it might have been a trap and signs of human intelligence is still there - because he made such a point of it that is was all gone.

The living alone in NYC scenes were cool, but the rest was too silly for me to recommend to anyone.

Franklyn
12-24-2007, 08:49 PM
In the clip I saw, his wife was white.
His wife wasn't white she is the black woman from "Eureka".

weekapaugjz
12-24-2007, 09:00 PM
i just saw it last night and really liked it. the only thing i didn't like were the zombie/vampire whatever they are things. they looked awful. other than that, i really enjoyed it.

PapaBear
12-24-2007, 09:01 PM
i just saw it last night and really liked it. the only thing i didn't like were the zombie/vampire whatever they are things. they looked awful. other than that, i really enjoyed it.
Thanks for ruining it for me. Oh... Wait. The previews did that.:wallbash:

Franklyn
12-24-2007, 09:10 PM
OK, so I thought the movie was fun and the acting was great. The problem with the film was that is was made by Hollywood. They cut way too much out for time and left holes that we can see from the responses in this thread.

Another 45 minutes would have answered a lot. Showing the boat rescue centers, would have explained Anna a bunch. She was on the boat filled with equipment and trained staff before it went wrong for them. She escaped on the waterways and they made drops at major cities looking for survivors. This explains her but needs more time in the film.
The child was unnecessary.
The dog kept me in it.
The humanoids set the trap. they tried to insinuated a de-evolution but they needed to show that it was actually an adaption and evolution. One or two scenes with in the hives would have shown this. Something to the effect of their social structure.
The dogs were controlled by force just like the other humans. Might made right and they followed the strongest.
I would watch this again and would recommend it to people who can suspend their disbelief.

Slumbag
12-24-2007, 09:52 PM
I thought this movie fucking sucked.
I'm not a Will Smith fan generally, but he was REALLY good in this. The movie didn't suck because of his lack of trying. It was just...............bad. Hard to explain why.

Did anyone else think there was a Bob Marley connection with the title, (He loved the Bob Marley "Legend" CD/I am Legend was the title). That kind of pissed me off, too.

pennington
12-25-2007, 05:33 AM
His wife wasn't white she is the black woman from "Eureka".

I didn't see the movie. Maybe she was the nanny? The clip I saw Smith was in a car with the kids in the back seat. He was telling her to get out of the city but he was going to stay.

I don't think I'm going to see it, maybe I'll rent it when it comes out. The general consensus from this board and other places seems to be Will Smith is good, the CGI is bad and there are holes in the plot.

Chigworthy
12-25-2007, 05:56 AM
There is none of this ambiguity in the book. Sounds like they did a bang up job based on all of these questions about wtf happened.

cougarjake13
12-25-2007, 08:05 AM
I didn't see the movie. Maybe she was the nanny? The clip I saw Smith was in a car with the kids in the back seat. He was telling her to get out of the city but he was going to stay.

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that was his wife but she was black but a light skinned black i guess

Franklyn
12-25-2007, 12:12 PM
that was his wife but she was black but a light skinned black i guess

This is her. She stars in "Eureka" a fun show on the sci-fi network. She was also in the cartoon gargoyles a few years back, she was the girl cop.

http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/12/42/0000041242_20070706161905.jpg

Fallon
12-25-2007, 06:03 PM
I don't know aboot you guys but, in my theater... there was a dramatic scene that got a hearty unintentional laugh.
When Neville is screaming that "everybody we ever knew is dead. DEAD! DEAD!!"

The audience really found that part hilarious. I don't think it was supposed to be received that way.

Yeah, I saw it tonight and the audience was laughing at inappropriate times. The movie wasn't that great, but the theater has a brand new upper level of luxury seating and it was free tonight. So I enjoyed beer while watching.

Kevin
12-25-2007, 06:27 PM
The only good thing about this movie was Will Smith...

And The ending was so retarded.. Do you think a big explosion like that should have killed the 2 that were hiding?? Its so stupid..

Fallon
12-25-2007, 06:31 PM
The only good thing about this movie was Will Smith...

And The ending was so retarded.. Do you think a big explosion like that should have killed the 2 that were hiding?? Its so stupid..

It should have ended with the woman and her kid finding out their is no survivor shelter and they have to repopulate the world.

Kevin
12-25-2007, 06:34 PM
It should have ended with the woman and her kid finding out their is no survivor shelter and they have to repopulate the world.

Great.. A country full of hayseeds...

HBox
12-25-2007, 07:47 PM
Great.. A country full of hayseeds...

What's so bad about that? We'd be right where we are now.

Kevin
12-25-2007, 07:52 PM
What's so bad about that? We'd be right where we are now.

Good point...

SeriouslySuprCJ
12-26-2007, 05:50 AM
It should have ended with the woman and her kid finding out their is no survivor shelter and they have to repopulate the world.

If that was the ending it would totally turn my view around on this movie.

The humanoids set the trap. they tried to insinuated a de-evolution but they needed to show that it was actually an adaption and evolution. One or two scenes with in the hives would have shown this. Something to the effect of their social structure.

But they had no knowledge of that mannequin that Will Smith was in love with. Fred? He only visited it during the day and it was in a locked building.

But really we're making the same point. I know some movies get a little better by not explaining things, but this isn't one of them. If they'd just taken a little more time (There were a few scenes that were unnecessary) and explained things a little more fully, it could have been a lot better.

Furtherman
12-26-2007, 07:53 AM
But they had no knowledge of that mannequin that Will Smith was in love with. Fred? He only visited it during the day and it was in a locked building.

Two different mannequins. The girl mannequin was inside, and he wasn't really in love with it, just used them to keep some kind of social interaction going in his mind.

Fred was the one outside the door. When he opened the place he said "Fred! You're here early!"

foodcourtdruide
12-26-2007, 08:15 AM
I enjoyed the movie for what it was: Will Smith Hollywood blockbuster.

I thought the scene where Sam ran into the building in daylight was very well-done.

There were several plot-holes though, the main one being if the zombie was smart enough to mimic the way Will Smith trapped that one zombie, how come he wasn't smart enough to drive or do other things that would have killed Will Smith much earlier?

Furtherman
12-26-2007, 08:16 AM
Even zombies hate going to the DMV.

WampusCrandle
12-26-2007, 11:00 AM
I enjoyed the movie for what it was: Will Smith Hollywood blockbuster.

I thought the scene where Sam ran into the building in daylight was very well-done.

There were several plot-holes though, the main one being if the zombie was smart enough to mimic the way Will Smith trapped that one zombie, how come he wasn't smart enough to drive or do other things that would have killed Will Smith much earlier?

well, i have to assume that the smart zombie watched willie set up the trap, and then made a small, primitive trap for him. zombies driving would be cool, but he always drove during the day, when zombies couldnt be out - if they were near any windows with light they would have died. and its a bit different between making a small trap and driving stick for the first time.

i also like it for what it was.

cougarjake13
12-26-2007, 04:44 PM
i remember the woman saying that the room was big enough for will to get inside as well

why didnt he crawl in there with her, grenade in hand and when the alpha male finally broke through pull the pin and close the door

fezident
01-12-2008, 07:25 AM
Is Will Smiff responsible for the outbreak of the virus?

In the very first flashback, he's getting his wife & annoying kid to the chopper, he says that he can't come with her. She says: "you can do your work from a lab that isn't on this island" and he replies "no... this is my site. I can fix this."
Why is NYC "his site"? Exactly what was he working on & when did he start working on it? And why did he already have a lab in the basement of his 8 million dollar apartment in, of all places, Washington Square Park?
Dr. Krippen (Emma Thompson) invented the original cure for cancer, not the military. So I guess my question is: what was Robert Nevilles (and the Army's) roll in all of this??




Why is Neville immune? Is it because the rabies virus stems from HIS blood? Which would kinda make him "patient zero".

IF NOT, THE WRITER IS ASKING US TO ACCEPT A MAAAJOR COINCEDENCE:
The entire population is completely wiped out except for a very very small handful of people who are immune. And of that remaining handful, one man was a microbiologist who was already working on a project that dealt with the mutating disease that, at the time he was assigned to work on it, wasn't even a disease yet!

It's a cyclic plot that is un-necessarily confusing.

CountryBob
01-12-2008, 07:50 AM
The CGI vampires was the biggest letdown for me. Using real people for most all the vampire shots would have really made the illusion alot better. The bridge scene at night - why not have 100 or so real fucking actors running at the vehicle? I kept critiquing the vamps all through out the movie and that is what I dont want to be doing - I want to believe it is real while watching.
As for the trap - I agree that he set the trap but forgot it was there because he was just about loosing his effen mind at that point -seemed like he wanted to die anyway (guilt maybe).
Without the background story it was hard to run with the chick and kid to end this mess. The potential factor for this movie could have been huge but it seemed like it was hurried to me.

Just my opinion - btw... I am right about everything!

cougarjake13
01-12-2008, 10:48 AM
As for the trap - I agree that he set the trap but forgot it was there because he was just about loosing his effen mind at that point -seemed like he wanted to die anyway (guilt maybe).




guilt about what ?? he hadnt lost his dog yet or found the chick it was after he lost his dog that he went depressed and wanted to die

fezident
01-12-2008, 10:58 AM
guilt about what ??

See my post above.
I think Neville is very much responsible for the epidemic.

cougarjake13
01-12-2008, 11:06 AM
See my post above.
I think Neville is very much responsible for the epidemic.

true but he says he was losing his effen mind at that point

i dont remember him being out of his mind at that point

GonzoStyle
01-12-2008, 11:44 AM
I just hate when they adapt anything that has an awesome ending or storyline and feel they need to change it. 3 times the book has been adapted for the screen and 3 times they had to screw with the ending. It's obviously not a time constraint issue since they spend an 80 or the 90 minutes on the film showing absolutely nothing for the most part. The ending of the book is by far one of the most poignant endings in literary history.

fezident
01-12-2008, 12:24 PM
Why'd they make the plot so vague?



He IS responsible for the outbreak.

When he talks to Anna -at length- for the first time, she says " you are the Robert Neville?!". Perhaps the media attached his name to the virus BEFORE all hell broke loose. Otherwise, what could she possibly mean by that? I mean, she already established who he was, and that she heard his radio broadcast.

Also, his reason for not wanting to go to the safezone in Vermont is "this is ground zero, this is my site, I can still fix this."

That sure sounds like a man who's claiming some responsibility.

cougarjake13
01-12-2008, 12:33 PM
Why'd they make the plot so vague?



He IS responsible for the outbreak.

When he talks to Anna -at length- for the first time, she says " you are the Robert Neville?!". Perhaps the media attached his name to the virus BEFORE all hell broke loose. Otherwise, how could she possibly mean by that? I mean, she already established who he was, and that she heard his radio broadcast.

Also, his reason for not wanting to go to the safezone in Vermont is "this is ground zero, this is my site, I can still fix this."

That sure sounds like a man who's claiming some responsibility.


i cant remeber now but i think at the beginning of the movie tey said something like some of his research helped the blonde chick to her discovery of the cancer cure

foodcourtdruide
01-12-2008, 12:38 PM
Why'd they make the plot so vague?



He IS responsible for the outbreak.

When he talks to Anna -at length- for the first time, she says " you are the Robert Neville?!". Perhaps the media attached his name to the virus BEFORE all hell broke loose. Otherwise, how could she possibly mean by that? I mean, she already established who he was, and that she heard his radio broadcast.

Also, his reason for not wanting to go to the safezone in Vermont is "this is ground zero, this is my site, I can still fix this."

That sure sounds like a man who's claiming some responsibility.

I thought he was one of the main guys looking for a cure. I didn't really understand what he meant by "this is ground zero, this is my site". I thought maybe different scientists were assigned different sites, and he was the lead scientist so he was assigned NYC? I agree, it was a bit vague.

fezident
01-12-2008, 12:51 PM
Okay...
I spoke to a friend of mine who is amazed that I am so confused by all this. He thought it was fairly obvious that:

1) Robert Neville was "famous" for trying to find a cure for the Krippen-virus BEFORE it went airborne and THAT is how Anna knew his name.

2) NYC is referred to as ground zero because THAT is where the virus shifted from contact-only to airborne.



I think that he's speculating about facts not-in-evidence but... yeah... he makes sense.

I haaate when movies spell out every last little detail but, in this case, I could've used a little more clarity on certain points.

Judge Smails
03-06-2008, 06:26 AM
I don't know if I stumbled onto something, or if I'm making a fool of myself and posting something that everyone has already seen. Here is the alternate ending to I am Legend. I like it sooooooo much better. Why the fuck wouldn't they have gone with this, instead of that piece of shit they actually gave us? I think I would have given the movie a thumbs up if this was the ending.

link: http://www.eatmyshorts.net/fullscreen/2270/I+Am+Legend+Alternate+Ending.html

Furtherman
03-06-2008, 07:14 AM
Wow.... that was a much, much better ending. I too would have gave the movie thumbs up if that was the ending.

IrishAlkey
03-06-2008, 07:19 AM
That was new to me.

Much better ending... not because Smith isn't dead, it just made more sense with all the shit that previously happened in the movie.

King Imp
03-06-2008, 10:23 AM
In the trailers, they would always show that scene where the infected were all around him growling. I was wondering where in the movie that was as it never appeared. Guess we know now.

Much better ending simply because all through the movie they seemed to be hinting that this leader had some sort of reasoning ability left and wasn't completely turned.

cougarjake13
03-06-2008, 02:15 PM
Wow.... that was a much, much better ending. I too would have gave the movie thumbs up if that was the ending.

asolutely


what moron decided to go with the one we did see ??? he should be fired

fezident
03-06-2008, 09:46 PM
I liked the theatrical ending.

cougarjake13
03-07-2008, 02:06 PM
I liked the theatrical ending.

blasphemy !!!!!!!

pennington
03-08-2008, 05:40 AM
I got finally got the book this week and finished it yesterday. It doesn't look like the late 1970's are going to be a fun time.

I think I'll just skip the movie.

King Imp
03-08-2008, 09:27 AM
It's funny how different two forums can be.

On another I frequent that is talking about the alternate ending, the feelings are almost the exact opposite. Most of them think the alt. is drivel and typical Hollywood bullshit while the one we got is better suited to the film's message, or title if you will.

Judge Smails
03-08-2008, 10:22 AM
The ending that we got just doesn't make any sense. We're supposed to believe that Will Smith is this great scientist and he can't figure out that the infected are still able to reason on some level. Something my 10 year old son was able to figure out right off the bat. The fact that the alpha male ventured into the sunlight because his woman was taken, the fact that they put together a pretty fucking elaborate trap for him at Grand Central totally escapes him. C'mon!?

Plus, add the fact that the scene in the alternate ending, where he's surrounded by the infected, is pretty fucking intense. So intense that they decided to put it in the trailer even though it doesn't exist in the movie (I HAAAAAAAATE when they do that!)

Also, the alternate ending is truer to the spirit of the book because he realizes that he's been indiscriminently killing what he's assumed to be just mindless zombies, which in reality have managed to hold onto some shred of humanity.

I think that the theatrical ending is the piece of shit Hollywood ending that paints everything in black and white terms. Zombies are bad, Will Smith is good. Also, it manages to set itself up for a possible sequel if they ever chose to go that way. Fuck them! As far as I'm concerned, whenever I think of this movie I'm going to tell myself that the alternate ending is the actual ending.

foodcourtdruide
03-08-2008, 12:35 PM
I liked the movie a lot, and I like both endings. I think the theatrical one makes a bit more sense though. Why did the zombies suddenly have emotions? There must have been a time when the zombies were killing the survivors and they didn't have emotions then.

fezident
03-08-2008, 06:04 PM
Somewhat off topic but, I would reeeeally love to see a movie that solely about the rebuilding of society after humans are basically wiped out. I don't care if it's a plague, zombies, or after the bombs are finally dropped.
I think it'd be interesting to see a group of survivors have to, more or less, start from scratch.

What would they use for currency?
How would they maintain order?
Would their new "government" be all that different from the pre-existing one?
Laws.
Food.
Power/electricity.
Transportation.
Education.
Repopulation.
Locating and communicating with survivors all across the world....
etc etc.

All that stuff.
I find it hard to believe that Hollywood hasn't tackled this a squillion times, much less... ONCE!


How say you?

pennington
03-08-2008, 06:48 PM
Somewhat off topic but, I would reeeeally love to see a movie that solely about the rebuilding of society after humans are basically wiped out. I don't care if it's a plague, zombies, or after the bombs are finally dropped.
I think it'd be interesting to see a group of survivors have to, more or less, start from scratch.

What would they use for currency?
How would they maintain order?
Would their new "government" be all that different from the pre-existing one?
Laws.
Food.
Power/electricity.
Transportation.
Education.
Repopulation.
Locating and communicating with survivors all across the world....
etc etc.

All that stuff.
I find it hard to believe that Hollywood hasn't tackled this a squillion times, much less... ONCE!


How say you?

Need I remind you of a little television show called Gilligan's Island?

cougarjake13
03-09-2008, 02:52 PM
Somewhat off topic but, I would reeeeally love to see a movie that solely about the rebuilding of society after humans are basically wiped out. I don't care if it's a plague, zombies, or after the bombs are finally dropped.
I think it'd be interesting to see a group of survivors have to, more or less, start from scratch.

What would they use for currency?
How would they maintain order?
Would their new "government" be all that different from the pre-existing one?
Laws.
Food.
Power/electricity.
Transportation.
Education.
Repopulation.
Locating and communicating with survivors all across the world....
etc etc.

All that stuff.
I find it hard to believe that Hollywood hasn't tackled this a squillion times, much less... ONCE!


How say you?

Need I remind you of a little television show called Gilligan's Island?



or how about the first season of jericho ???

fezident
03-09-2008, 08:33 PM
I only saw two eps of JERICHO so... I can't really comment.

But, I'm talkin' about some GLOBAL rebuilding here. I wanna see people trying to recreate a COUNTRY.
I think it would be fascinating and I'm surprised it hasn't been beaten to death by the hollywood system.

sreeja
03-10-2008, 01:52 AM
I saw this movie some days back.It is a good movie that everyone must see it.

cougarjake13
03-16-2008, 04:25 PM
I only saw two eps of JERICHO so... I can't really comment.

But, I'm talkin' about some GLOBAL rebuilding here. I wanna see people trying to recreate a COUNTRY.
I think it would be fascinating and I'm surprised it hasn't been beaten to death by the hollywood system.



thats exactly whats going on with jericho right now

rebuilding the whole country