The John From Cincinnati Thread

[Judge Smails]

Fuck you, David Chase!

I'm getting in on the ground floor of this thread.

"Some things I know and some things I don't."

Mark my words: It'll be the "Where's the beef?" of the Summer of 2007.

[King Imp]

I'm really not sure what to make of this show. I like supernatural stuff and all, but this show seemed to be all over the place and no one seemed to be completely freaked out that someone could float or that a dead bird came back to life.
And as soon as that gay guy started rambling at the hotel when he was holding the gun, all I could think to myself was "here goes David Milch again with these crazy dialogs that are impossible to follow, just like on Deadwood."

That said, I'll keep watching in hopes it makes more sense in the future.

[SinA]

it wasn't bad, but didn't blow me away. too soon to really bite into it, but that's just how hbo is. they know that they can let a show build its audience, not cut it in four weeks like the networks if it isn't a smash. plus, it's got elsworth in it.
i'll watch next week for sure.

no i got my eyes on YOU

[hammersavage]

Definitely kept my interest. John seems to just reciprocate whatever is around him whether its verbal or the ability to surf. His character is hilarious. I like the noir-style surfing aspect of it too. The last few surfing scenes alone were worth checking out just for the visuals. I hope there's some sort of reason to the bird coming back to life and the levitation but if i can watch Lost, i'm in no rush for answers.

Louis Guzman has a fucking GUT!!!

I fucking love Ed O'neill. I dig him in just about everything he's in.

Miss Luke Perry....

[Snacks]

I think this could be a good story based on the family and their story along with the other supporting cast. I dont understand what John has to do with it and dont think they need his character to make this show work. Like I said the storyline about the surfer family and all that has happened to them and will make a good enough show. John was actually starting to annoy me with his robot like ways and repeating everything. I will continue to watch it to see where it goes.

[prothunderball]

there's already too many posts in this thread for me to act like I was amongst to say how great this show was. Damn. So I'll go in the other direction, just to be different.



This show fucking blew. Who the hell does David Milch think he is? Just because he came up with Deadwood, one the best show's HBO has ever put on and he's from my home town, he can't keep putting this crap on the air. IT STINKS!!!

[LiddyRules]

I'm probably going to end up watching it twice more before next week. I'm not saying it was the best hour of television ever but something about it I just find fascinating enough to want more of it. Maybe it's just the thrill of a new show that I want to see that has a crazy different vibe that makes it almost like a brand new toy. It has the new toy smell, you don't know what all the buttons do, you're putting it away until tomorrow when you can play with it again.

John from Cincinatti is my new toy and I haven't had a show like that in awhile.

[Cardiff_Giant]

weird show, but all I want to know is where can I get a pair of those pants that have the ability to produce $2300 at will?

[drusilla]

it lost me about 5 minutes in & i shut it off. there was just too much going on & too much babble. i'll probably give it another shot sometime on demand if i'm super bored this week, but so far, not really into it so much.

[Sheeplovr]

ehhh
this is how the show goes ...surfing ... herion...random guy floating...al bundys poor acting...surfing ... efemninite guy with a gun...
the dot dot dots represent the quiet inbetween these things

[theclumsyox]

i thought it was fantastic. not sure where its going to go with the supernatural stuff, but I thought it was very entertaining.

[Bellyfullasnot]

I got stuck watching this and the jury is still out. I think I'll tune in next week.

[MJ]

Wow, was there some horrendous over-acting from pretty much all involved in this show (except Luis Guzman).

I'll give it another shot next week, but these guys need to take it down a couple of notches.

[Crispy123]

I was pretty disappointed we didn't get more of the Tijuana Donkey show story line.

[milliehatchett]

I thought some of the characters were rather interesting but there was obviously some sort of contest to see who could chew up the scenery in the biggest fashion. The strung out surfer dude made me want to hit him. I like the John character and actually like Al Bundy's character but Rebecca DeMorney was the winner in the overacting contest.

[MobCounty]

I'm out.

John Coffee for me please.

[Sarge]

I thought it was pretty good, I'm interested to see where it goes. I'll watch it again.

[King Imp]

For close to 50, I think Rebecca De Mornay still looks good.

[Furtherman]

I liked it and will be watching again.

[JustJon]

I thought it was ok, but I won't be watching it week to week. If I hear good things, I'll wait till it's done and just marathon the whole season at once.

[BoondockSaint]

Episode 2 is on In Demand if anyone wants to watch it.

[Furtherman]

Episode 2 is on In Demand if anyone wants to watch it.

Do you mean HBO On Demand? Or is In Demand something else?

[BoondockSaint]

Do you mean HBO On Demand? Or is In Demand something else?


Yeah. That's what I meant. I think In Demand is the PPV stuff.

[King Imp]

Episode 2 is up already? That's strange (like this show). HBO On Demand used to only put shows up after they had aired.

Oh, by the way. John, what will he turn out to be? Alien, Time Traveler, Demon Spawn from the Netherworld, Rain Man, none of the above?
I have to go with alien at this point. The whole strange pants thing and not having a real grasp on the language is what has me thinking that.

[prothunderball]

Episode 2 is up already? That's strange (like this show). HBO On Demand used to only put shows up after they had aired.

once and a while they'll put shows up a week ahead with on demand. They did it like that last year with The Wire. I'm not sure why they do it, it must be some sort of marketing strategy.

[BoondockSaint]

Well, I watched episode 2 and I gotta say that I'm starting to dig the show.

[ralphbxny]

ehhh
this is how the show goes ...surfing ... herion...random guy floating...al bundys poor acting...surfing ... efemninite guy with a gun...
the dot dot dots represent the quiet inbetween these things

Sounds like XM 202!!

I thought it was ok. I will give it one more week.

[Reynolds]

If you stepped barefoot on a syringe, wouldn't you take it to the hospital and get it and yourself tested?

[Furtherman]

Well, I watched episode 2 and I gotta say that I'm starting to dig the show.

My On Demand was screwy last night.. I must have tried a dozen times to get it to start to no avail. Tonight, I shall try again!

[BrentfromTN1]

I liked it enough to keep watching. I want to know what the deal is with John, and why he can produce anything from his pockets and the other weird things he does.
You can definetly tell this is from David Milch from Deadwood in the the way the show is done with all of the "fucks" and weird speaches.

"I went ahead and ordered for the table" vs "Somethings I know, and somethings I don't know" Which is a better statement?

[Snacks]

I watched episode 2 last night on demand. It was good, Im pissed that I have to wait close to 2 weeks to see episode 3.

[Furtherman]

I watched episode 2 last night on demand. It was good, Im pissed that I have to wait close to 2 weeks to see episode 3.

I agree. Ed O'Neil is great. I think this is going to be a great show.

[KnoxHarrington]

Wow, could they have gotten a couple more "fucks" in there? Jesus fuckin' Christ.

I'll go ahead and watch episode 2, but episode 1 really sort of left me...hmmm, I don't know.

[Kevin]

This show kicks major ass.. I watched both eps..

[Reynolds]

My On Demand was screwy last night.. I must have tried a dozen times to get it to start to no avail. Tonight, I shall try again!

Mine gets screwy sometimes too, it gets cluttered up with shit for some reason if you use it too much. Unplug it, wait ten seconds, plug it back in, once the clock shows you can turn it back on, then try it. Every time mine starts moving slow, I do this and it's good as new.

[celery]

I'm undecided on the show, but I love the theme and opening credits.

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[Kevin]

I don't know butchy instead..

[Judge Smails]

I'm officially hooked on this show. Not really sure why. I love the quirkiness and the John character. I've got to see how this plays out. My current theory: he's an angel. A complete innocent. And I love his obsession with shitting. Plus, how can you not love a show with Ed O'Neil in it?

[King Imp]

I'm sorry, but this show is a trainwreck. If not for the kid getting hurt towards the end and John saying stuff like "I gotta take a horrendous dump" or "Did you dump out today", I would have shut this off. Now I gotta watch to see where it goes with the kid.

Speaking of, is there a worse actor on the face of the Earth than him? Christ! I know he's young and all, but I've seen younger act circles around him.

There just seems to be too much going on at once and they never bothered to even introduce the characters properly. I mean, who the fuck is Luis Guzman supposed to be besides the former owner of this motel? What is Ed O'Neill's deal and what is his relationship with the Yost family? And what is this dyke Kai's deal? Plus, the dialog is ridiculous. No one ever talks like these people do, but I blame that on David Milch who did the same thing with Deadwood.

[prothunderball]

I'm undecided on the show, but I love the theme and opening credits.


The theme song is a Joe Strummer song, I forget the name right now, but it's on his second album.

I like the show, I'm not going to even bother trying to guess where its going, but I'm looking forward to finding out.

[celery]

I'm sorry, but this show is a trainwreck. If not for the kid getting hurt towards the end and John saying stuff like "I gotta take a horrendous dump" or "Did you dump out today", I would have shut this off. Now I gotta watch to see where it goes with the kid.

Speaking of, is there a worse actor on the face of the Earth than him? Christ! I know he's young and all, but I've seen younger act circles around him.


I think he plays the part fine, considering we're not sure if he's a human, an android, an alien, an angel, etc...

[pittphantoms]

I really am liking this show so far... cant wait until next week. I hope the kid is ok.

[King Imp]

I think he plays the part fine, considering we're not sure if he's a human, an android, an alien, an angel, etc...

No, not John. I'm referring to the kid who broke his neck, Shaun Yost.

John is one of the few things I do like on this show.

[celery]

No, not John. I'm referring to the kid who broke his neck, Shaun Yost.

Ahh...yeah, I'll agree his acting sucks, but it's good to know that the middle Hanson brother's finally found work.

http://i10.tinypic.com/4lpuuzp.jpg

[Landblast]

Speaking of, is there a worse actor on the face of the Earth than him? Christ! I know he's young and all, but I've seen younger act circles around him.

i lived in HB for eight years and it's funny, all surfer kids i've met at that age are like that, their just like this Shaun character, laid back, quiet, mellow, and if you take a kid with that demeanor, and use it as a character on a show, i could easily see how that might look like he doesn't have much range. from my experiences, they got this kid right.

[King Imp]

Oh, I knew there was something else I wanted to add about Shaun's character. If he is supposed to be this surfing prodigy and the "next big thing", then why was he copying what that one kid was doing with his wax as if he had no clue what he was supposed to be doing himself? And then he was surprised when he saw the other kids laughing at the kid waxing his board, so Shaun stopped.

[Snacks]

Oh, I knew there was something else I wanted to add about Shaun's character. If he is supposed to be this surfing prodigy and the "next big thing", then why was he copying what that one kid was doing with his wax as if he had no clue what he was supposed to be doing himself? And then he was surprised when he saw the other kids laughing at the kid waxing his board, so Shaun stopped.

b/c it was his first competition. He knows how to wax his surf board, but he was looking around to see what he should be doing at an event like this. Hes a kid and wants to fit in. He doesnt know hes a natural, great surfer. All the adults do. He just wants to surf, compete and have his dad come see him and be apart of his life.

[trig]

the end is near

[theclumsyox]

is ed o'neil's character supposed to be based on fez?

[KnoxHarrington]

Two episodes in, and I still dont' know what to make of this. I won't say exactly what happened at the end of the second episode, but my feeling about that is that I can either see it taking us into really sort of weird, interesting realms, or just becoming utterly and completely cheesy.

This is a show that could be either brilliant, or just utterly pretentious horseshit. It all depends on what happens when we start getting some answers to just what the fuck is going on here.

[MikeB]

Well, I watched episode 2 and I gotta say that I'm starting to dig the show.

ditto.

I had to stop 20 minutes into episode 2 cause I just had enough. Every character is way too over the top and I have never been into surfing thus I am not naturally drawn to it. For whatever reason I picked up where I left off the next day and the shit hit the fan on the show and I began to finally really enjoy it.
Maybe there is a reason why every character is over the top but I really could go without the lotto winner. He seems like he is in there the same reason a sitcom has a side story, because they are worried the main ones are not strong enough.

[KnoxHarrington]

ditto.

I had to stop 20 minutes into episode 2 cause I just had enough. Every character is way too over the top and I have never been into surfing thus I am not naturally drawn to it. For whatever reason I picked up where I left off the next day and the shit hit the fan on the show and I began to finally really enjoy it.
Maybe there is a reason why every character is over the top but I really could go without the lotto winner. He seems like he is in there the same reason a sitcom has a side story, because they are worried the main ones are not strong enough.

I kind of had the same reaction you had. I'm just not quite sold on the show. I see the big event that closed the show as giving it potential to become really great, or just go straight to shit. We'll see.

And I don't know what's up with the lotto winner guy either.

[Furtherman]

That was the best part of last night's show. Creepy. And what is with the impants in Butchie's head? I must have missed the explaination. But I'm really digging this show now. There is certainly a lot of mythic symbolism I'm sure, but I'm not going to look into that too much and just enjoy it as is right now... I'm liking all the characters.

[AssHat]

OK, so I just watched all three John From Cincinnatti's last night (here and ever after referred to as JFC)


I dig it. It's quirky, disturbing, funny and plain wierd. Kinda like me. MrsAssHat and I started watching the first one last night around 10 or so and were up until 1:30 which is way past my bedtime. It was well worth it.

I think all the characters are still trying to find themselves, but you can see the potential. I LOVE the Ed O'Neil character, Bill and Steady Freddie Lopez could become one of my television favorite bad guys.


There's some great dialog exchange between these two and, in general, between all the characters.

Loved the John and Kai exchange:

JFC: I'm going to bone you, Kai.
Kai: You're one smooth talkin' city dude...


This just in, Rebecca De Mornay is still hot.

BTW, since I work at a cable company, whenever someone has asked me a question today, that's how I answer.

VP of Sales: AssHat, what're your projections for third quarter installs?
Me: I don't know Butchie, instead.

Rest of team: Raucous Laughter.
VP of Sales: Not so much.


Hey, I could have said, "What's the difference between you and a monkey in a tree?"

[RoyMunson]

Last night was really strange, i'm giving it another week or two.

[BoondockSaint]

I think the implants Butchie were talking about were he had some sort of devil horns put there when he was the bad boy surfer.

I'm loving the show so far. Bill is awesome.

[klaus_kinski_Jr]

2 quick little notes:

1. The theme is "Johnny Appleseed" by Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros

2. It's already been shit canned by HBO. It seems they are not happy with its performance and cut back the episodes and will tie it all up real soon. Instead of leaving fans wondering like Carnivale and Deadwood.

[underdog]

2. It's already been shit canned by HBO. It seems they are not happy with its performance and cut back the episodes and will tie it all up real soon. Instead of leaving fans wondering like Carnivale and Deadwood.

Source? All I can find is that the ratings weren't great, but HBO executives say neilsen ratings aren't exact.

[Furtherman]

2. It's already been shit canned by HBO. It seems they are not happy with its performance and cut back the episodes and will tie it all up real soon. Instead of leaving fans wondering like Carnivale and Deadwood.

Source? All I can find is that the ratings weren't great, but HBO executives say neilsen ratings aren't exact.

They have not cancelled it yet, nor have they ordered more episodes. I believe there are three left after last night's episode.

I hope they keep it going.

[EddieMoscone]

I definately like the show and am in agreeance that Ed O'Neill is the Motts.

I know it's been hard for him to break out of Al Bundy's shadow, but he always does good work. Anyone else stick with the Dragnet remake just because of him like I did? I know...

[Snacks]

They have not cancelled it yet, nor have they ordered more episodes. I believe there are three left after last night's episode.

I hope they keep it going.

I like the show, I hope they dont cancel it. Every episode makes me want to know more about the characters.

How the hell did they keep that horse shit of a show "lucky louie" on for a full season and this show isnt good enough to do the same?

[Landblast]

i like the show but if next weeks episode is much like the first three, i'm tapping out, 4 episodes is enough time to at least make one point or do a good job not to make one.

[Dash77]

Just watched the first 2 shows and is this john guy just a rip on Rainman or what ? or I just dont get it yet ?

[ShapopoJoe]

Finally broke down and decided to watch the first 3 episodes.....While I went in expecting to hate it, I came out loving it! I was pleasantly suprised at how much I enjoyed each character and the overall spiritual mystery of the show....Its obvious John is some sort of conduit to God ( see scene in Kais trailer )..gotta love Bill and Zippy The Miracle Worker! Also, its good to see so many of the actors from Deadwood popping up with good material lately...

Shap out

[Furtherman]

This show gets better each week! I thought this past episode was excellent, especially Ed O'Neill's "Bill" character. Line of the night: "May this pain come to Clinton for disgracing the oval office!" All the character's places seem to be coming together now, and I was surprised the "physician" looks like he'll be one of the regulars too.

Still no word from HBO if they're going to continue... I think there are only 2 episodes left!

[FMJeff]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9pYwPc6UNmo

I think the show is amazing. I really really dig it.

[Crispy123]

I can't lie. Im in to it. Can't wait for Sunday, Butchies ex looks pretty damn hot and I think she'a a porn star? Anyways, Im hooked.

[King Imp]

Butchies ex looks pretty damn hot and I think she'a a porn star?

I'm predicting that she is gonna be Shaun's mother.

[Kevin]

I'm predicting that she is gonna be Shaun's mother.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/Illuminatas/cowbell.jpg

[LiddyRules]

I love this show so much that I don't want to speculate. I just want to sit and experience. I had hoped this was another 13 week show. I don't want it to leave.

[SinA]

glad to see that everyone else is liking this show as much as i am, which is a lot. i've incorporated many of the phrases into my daily life already, including:
anyways...
dump out...
we're gonna bone...
i don't know butchy instead...
and best of all- i got my eye on you...
kinda silly, i guess, but i think it shows how powerfully the writing/dialogue is having an impact on me

i've decided that it's basically deadwood season 4, with a few character changes and slightly more surfing

[Kevin]

Here is my take on what the show is..


John is Jesus.. God And he came here to save the Yost family.. He heals.. He produces everything you ask him to do.. He knows shit that he was not there to see.. The see God Kai thing.. Dillon is the Devil.. The signing kids is not really signing them but taking their souls.. Like he did with Butchy.. And wants to do with Shaun.. Thats why John says to Dillon, the end is near.. meaning his evil.. This show is more interesting and more different than any other show i have ever seen..

[BoondockSaint]

Here is my take on what the show is..


John is Jesus.. God And he came here to save the Yost family.. He heals.. He produces everything you ask him to do.. He knows shit that he was not there to see.. The see God Kai thing.. Dillon is the Devil.. The signing kids is not really signing them but taking their souls.. Like he did with Butchy.. And wants to do with Shaun.. Thats why John says to Dillon, the end is near.. meaning his evil.. This show is more interesting and more different than any other show i have ever seen..

It sure as hell looks that way which is why I'm not buy it just yet.

And Ed O'Neil has been oustanding every week. he should win some awards for this.

[cougarjake13]

been meaning to check this show out

maybe i ll catch up this weekend

[BoondockSaint]

I've been trying to think of who Freddie reminds me of and it's Carl from ATHF.

[King Imp]

I have a question for those who feel Ed O'Neill's acting is superb in this show. Simply put, why do you feel this way?
I personally think his scenes are awful, especially his dialogs with himself when he is alone. It just screams of incredible overacting to me.

[Kevin]

I have a question for those who feel Ed O'Neill's acting is superb in this show. Simply put, why do you feel this way?
I personally think his scenes are awful, especially his dialogs with himself when he is alone. It just screams of incredible overacting to me.

Yea.. Thats the entire point of his character dude.. He is a crazy lunatic with dementia.. Have you ever met anyone like that?? Thats exactly the way they act..

[KnoxHarrington]

I still cannot decide if I like this show or not. It irritates and annoys me as much as it enthralls and intrigues me.

But I'm probably gonna stick it out until the end of the season.

[King Imp]

Tina is so hot! (http://www.maximonline.com/girls_of_maxim/girl_template.aspx?id=919)

As for the episode itself, I did not understand any of that John-Cass stuff and Cissy's screeching was especially annoying. Shut up already!

[Crispy123]

I've been trying to think of who Freddie reminds me of and it's Carl from ATHF.

:lol: That is F'en hilarious and so true.

It just screams of incredible overacting to me.

This pretty much sums up 90% of the characters on the show. The only one I can think of who doesn't over act is the kid who kinda reminds me of a piece of wood that occasionally talks.

As for the episode itself, I did not understand any of that John-Cass stuff and Cissy's screeching was especially annoying. Shut up already!

This was the weakest one yet for me. Ill keep watching to see where it goes but they are losing me.

[LiddyRules]

Tina is so hot! (http://www.maximonline.com/girls_of_maxim/girl_template.aspx?id=919) Cass >>>>> Tina.

[MikeB]

I think the over acting and under acting might be on purpose. I think the kid purposely is not a good actor thus he can contrast with all the people around him and show his innocent nature.

Sounds like cass is some sort of disciple for john

[ChimneyFish]

I'm hooked.
I really hope HBO doesn't drop the ball on this one.
Some very good writing.(although I'm a sucker for anything with religious overtones(?) like this)

There was a line that absolutely had me cracking up, but I can't quite remember how it went.

Bill: "I'm her on orders of my bird."

pause

Freddy: "If you're waitin' for me to ask you what you're talkin' about, plan on fallin' over dead before I do."


That line was one of the greatest things I've ever heard.

[Landblast]

I saw Keala in Hawaii about 3 yrs ago, great surfer, big wave surfer.

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[celery]

Cass >>>>> Tina.

She is absolutely smoking hot:

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/images/cass.jpg

[Snacks]

She is absolutely smoking hot:

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/images/cass.jpg

I love her. Im so glad you posted this lol. During last weeks show I was telling my cousin that she has moved up to #1 on my list of celebs I wanna bang. I dont know what it is about her. I never like blondes, but she seems so sexy in the girl next door kind of way. Everything about her I like. I cant believe Kate Beckinsale, Eva Longoria, Minka Kelly and Jill wagner all moved down a spot!

[Furtherman]

I have a question for those who feel Ed O'Neill's acting is superb in this show. Simply put, why do you feel this way?
I personally think his scenes are awful, especially his dialogs with himself when he is alone. It just screams of incredible overacting to me.

I don't see it as overacting at all. He's a straight-laced by the books former cop whose wife died and now all he has is his birds, particularly Zippy, who I'm willing to bet was his wife's birds to begin with. He's lonely, and probably had nothing to do until John showed up. I love his scene with the bird. "I got my fish-eye on you!" "That is a whole 'nother kettle of fish". I think his character is very well written, and he pulls it off beautifully.

Now, I still can't fathom what John wants Cass to work on, nor what exactly the Hawaiian and his broken hand partner's role is in the story, but the scenes are just interesting enough to want more.

According to IMDB, there were only 6 episodes made, so next week is the 6th. I guess we'll find out next week sometime if HBO will continue. I really hope they do.

[celery]

I love her. Im so glad you posted this lol. During last weeks show I was telling my cousin that she has moved up to #1 on my list of celebs I wanna bang. I dont know what it is about her. I never like blondes, but she seems so sexy in the girl next door kind of way. Everything about her I like. I cant believe Kate Beckinsale, Eva Longoria, Minka Kelly and Jill wagner all moved down a spot!

I think she definitely has a future, though I'm not 100% convinced this show does. It seems like there are too many characters and they keep throwing in new ones.

Anyways, Here's some more pics of the beautiful Cass:

http://www.hbo.com/johnfromcincinnati/img/episodes/season1/ep2/ep2_02.jpg
http://www.hbo.com/johnfromcincinnati/img/episodes/season1/ep5/ep5_02.jpg
http://www.hbo.com/johnfromcincinnati/img/episodes/season1/ep5/ep5_05.jpg

[ralphbxny]

According to IMDB, there were only 6 episodes made, so next week is the 6th. I guess we'll find out next week sometime if HBO will continue. I really hope they do.

I hope they do make more. I like the show...its fuckin weird...but I like the show.

[ralphbxny]

http://www.hbo.com/johnfromcincinnati/img/episodes/season1/ep2/ep2_02.jpg
http://www.hbo.com/johnfromcincinnati/img/episodes/season1/ep5/ep5_02.jpg
http://www.hbo.com/johnfromcincinnati/img/episodes/season1/ep5/ep5_05.jpg

I got my eye on you !!!

[LiddyRules]

She is absolutely smoking hot:

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/images/cass.jpg I thought she was hot but there was something when she was hallucinating and looking scared that made me think "holy crap that girl is fantastic."

I think it's the blonde hair + arched black eyebrows (eyebrows are very important) combination that does it for me. Add a cute worried look to that and that's a trifecta.

[Snacks]

I thought she was hot but there was something when she was hallucinating and looking scared that made me think "holy crap that girl is fantastic."

I think it's the blonde hair + arched black eyebrows (eyebrows are very important) combination that does it for me. Add a cute worried look to that and that's a trifecta.

Thats what it is. For some reason her hair and eyebrows being a different color actually works on her.

[Judge Smails]

Can one of you really smart people please explain what the fuck I just watched?

Are they all in purgatory trying to free themselves of their demons? I got nothing.

[BoondockSaint]

Apparently nobody sent Butchie the memo about the N-word being dead.

[Chimee]

Can one of you really smart people please explain what the fuck I just watched?

Are they all in purgatory trying to free themselves of their demons? I got nothing.

I'm with ya. That was just fucked up.

[King Imp]

Can one of you really smart people please explain what the fuck I just watched?

Seriously! I have absolutely no clue what they hell any of that was or what John was talking about.

I did like John's "sales pitch" to Cissy though in the kitchen. Finally, we got to see what makes her tick and why she is constantly screaming at everyone. Kinda sick though about jerking little Butchie off.

[LiddyRules]

I didn't know what was going on with this episode but God help me, the cookout epitomizes why I love this fucking show.

Now baptize that fucking pistol!

[ANC]

I don't know, with each episode I'm finding the show more and more interesting.. I am aware of the bad acting and I can't defend it in any way, but just the wierd religious overtones catches my attention.. I was checking out an IMDB board and I was reading some cool stuff someone posted.

For Example, John's last name is Monad. According to Wikipedia:

Monads are non-extended, soul-like, metaphysical simples. Every material that exists, according to Leibniz, is composed entirely of monads. These monads have no causal relationship to one another, or to any other monads, and are moved about (and appear to affect each other) through what Leibniz called pre-established harmony. In other words, without God overseeing and directing every action of every monad, the entire universe would fall apart.
Our souls are of a special kind of monad, termed dominant, or rational, monads. These dominant monads give us consciousness, which is a reflection on what happens to us, and which Leibniz terms apperception. All other simple monads have two basic qualities, appetite and perception, while some monads also have memory.
Monads are eternal, having existed since God created each one, indestructible, and immutable.

Also for those who missed or wanted to read John's little speech from last night, someone also posted it on the IMDB board:

----------------------------------------------------------------

Here is what John says in his sermon at the end......

Ramon says "Who's hungry."

BEGIN SERMON -

John says "If my words are yours can you hear my father? Can Bill know my father keeping his eye on me? Can I bone Kai and Butchie know my father instead?

(John takes Mr. Rollins out of room 24)

My father is shy doing his business. Kai helps my father dump out. Bill takes a shot. Shaunie is much improved. Joe is a doubting Thomas. Joe will save not Aliman?. Joe will bring his buddies home. This is how Freddy relaxes, cup a joe and Winchell's variety dozen.

Mitch catches a good wave. Mitch wipes out. Mitch wipes out Cissy. Cissy shows Butchie how to do that. Cissy wipes Butchie out. Butchie hurts Barry's head. Mr. Rollins comes in Barry's face. My Father runs the Megamillions.

(John stands in the roped off area in the courtyard. Then he enters Cass's room at her hotel to get her camera. Then he tells Linc it's time to get back in the game.)

Fur is big. Mud is big. The stick is big. The word is big. Fire is huge. The wheel is huge. The line and circle are big. On the wall the line and circle are huge. On the wall the man on the wall makes a man from the circle and line. The man on the wall makes a word on the wall from the circle and line. The word on the wall hears my father.

The zeros and ones make the word in Cass's camera. In the word on the wall that hears my father in Cass's camera, the good one Mitch cacthes doesn't wipe Cissy out. In the word that hears my father Cissy shows Butchie something else.

In my fathers word Cissy shows Butchie and Shaun. In my fathers word Tina raises Shaun at lunch. In Cass's camera Butchie lays the cord out for Barry and Mr. Rollins watches and he doesn't come on Barry's face. In Cass's camera Butchie knows Kai has kept the faith. In my fathers word the wave lifts them up.

(John draws a stick man-like figure on the ground)

In Cass's camera Bill doesn't bump his head on the stairs.

(Bill says he cannot do this, he's being stupid and he then climbs his spiral staircase and plays his harmonica)

In Cass's camera as long as Bill is being stupid Bill gives Lois a kiss.

In his word in Cass's camera the internet is big. 9/11 is big but not every towel head is eradicated. In his word we are coming 9/11/14. In my father's word Bill sees how Freddy relaxes.

In Cass's camera Ramon wants to know who's hungry in the courtyard and room 45. In my father's word to come, in Cass's camera, Dr. Smith calls Ocean Properties. In Cass's camera to come my father stares not Aliman? (the vato) down and Freddy sees Bill much improved (as they play their intruments together).

You will not note my fathers word nor remember Cass's camera but you will not forget what we did here today." - John

- END SERMON

Freddy then says to Polanca "And yer even ugly than Abraham Lincoln". Polancs replies "Which happens to have the same birthday as mine 2/14/64. Freddy says "yeah, a hundred years later."

Barry says "We should have these cookouts more often." Butchie tells Kai "Let's go find the space commander".

----------------------------------------------------------------

[nate1000]

Not sure what last night was, but with all of John's references to his father, Milch certainly seemed to be presenting him as a Christ figure.

[nate1000]

If my words are yours, can you hear my father?
Can Bill know my father keeping his eye on me?
Can I bone Kai and Butchie know my father instead?

My father's shy doing his business.
Kai helps my father dump out.
Bill takes a shot.
Shaunie is much improved.

Joe is a doubting Thomas.
Joe will save ???
Joe will bring his buddies home.

This is how Freddie relaxes.
Cup of joe and Winchell's variety dozen.

Mitch catches a good wave.
Mitch wipes out.
Mitch wipes out Cissy.
Cissy shows Butchie how to do that.
Cissy wipes Butchie out.

Butchie hurts Barry's head.
Mr. Rollins comes in Barry's face.
My father runs the mega millions.


Time to get back in the game Link Stark...

Four is big, mud is big, the stick is big, the word is big, fire is huge, the wheel is huge

The line and circle are big, on the wall the line and circle are huge

On the wall the man at the wall makes a man from the circle and line

The man at the wall makes a word on the wall from the cirlce and line

The word on the wall hears my father

The zeros and ones make the word in Cass' camera

In the word in the wall that hears my father in Cass' camera, the good one Mitch catches doesn't wipe Cissy out

In the word that hears my father, Cissy shows Butchie something else

In my father's word Cissy shows Butchie and Sean

In my father's word Tina raises Sean at lunch

In cass's camera, butchie lays the cord out for barry and Mr. rollins watches and he doesn't cum on Barry's face

In Cass's camera, butchie knows Kai has kept the faith

In my fathers word, the wave lifts them up


Freddy's goon: I think you overcame a milestone in stride, next thing its four hours later you been napping in
unrecognized stress

In cass's camera Bill doesn't bump his head on the stairs


Bill: I can't do this, I cannot do this, I am skating on very thing ice

In cass's camera, as long as he is bing stupid he blows Lois a kiss

(Sax and harmonica play)

In his word in Cass' camera the internet is big

9/11 is big but not every towelhead is eradicated, in his word we are coming 9/11/14

In my fathers word bill sees how freddy relaxes

(Sax plays)

In Cass' camera, Ramon wants to know who's hungry in the courtyard in 45

In my fathers word to cum in Cass' camera Dr. Smith calls ocean properties

In Cass' camera to cum, my father stares not aleman down and freddy seems much improved

you will not note my fathers word nor remember Cass' camera, but you will not forget what we did here

Freddy: And your even ulgier than Abe Lincoln, and just so happens he's got the same bday as mine, Feb 12, 1964, ya,
100 years after his murder

Freddy goon: Both of us

Barry: We should make these cookouts a fixture

Butchie: Want to go look for the space commander

Bill: Judas priest, the fuckin sun's gone down

The sun does not go down bill

Bill: Genius on science too

My father is a genius on science, the sun does not go down

Joe: You won't get an argument from me

Judas priest is a genius on science, judas priest is my fathers son too

Bill: I Swear to christ i've been playin my harp

Bill won't note nor long remember playin his fuckin harp Joe

Bill: Ain't that the strangest thing

My fathers birthday is the same as mine

Joe: Well this was time well spent.

[nate1000]

Sorry for the repost of John's speech- I didn't see Anthony's post

[ANC]

Sorry for the repost of John's speech- I didn't see Anthony's post

No worries, yours was more accurate and had more content.

[celery]

"Well, this time was well spent..."

[Judge Smails]

I called my wife at lunchtime just to check-in with her. She's a physical therapist and couldn't answer the phone because she was with a patient.

When she finally called me back, I gave her the old: "What's the matter? Were you too busy sucking some nigger's prick?" Hilarity ensued.

Last night left me baffled, though I'm still definitely hooked.

To quote my wife after it was over: "I hate this show. I hope HBO doesn't renew it, because if they do I'm still going to have to watch it every week just to know what's going to happen."

[Furtherman]

Well that episode got really trippy didn't it?

I'm guessing the whole sermon ending happened in John's mind while he was asleep, a kind of "here's what I'm here to do" list. But I also feel he did appear in front of Cissy. And WOW what a revelation about her!! Acid is a hell of a drug.

I guess you could go through he sermon line by line and figure out each character's place in his mind. But I think I'll wait for someone else to do that. I do have to do some work each day.

[Kwarner722]

Check out this great discussion board for JFC as well:

http://johnfromcincinnatifans.com/forums/index.php

[oh_kee_pa]

once and a while they'll put shows up a week ahead with on demand. They did it like that last year with The Wire. I'm not sure why they do it, it must be some sort of marketing strategy.

they did it w/ extras as well... i think it's to create a buzz amongst people

[ChimneyFish]

Finally got to watching it last night.

Glad to see I'm not the only one confused, and yet pleased, after watching that one.

[Judge Smails]

Check out THIS (http://www.johnmonad.com/flash.html)official HBO Website.

I fear that I may be getting a little obsessive about this show. I saw this on that JFC board. Try entering different searches and see what you get. Some can be interesting. Jesus=Link.

Also, when you search God you get a billboard that references Luke 11: 9-14. If you recall in his monologue, John talked about 9/11 and said something about 9-11-14. Get out your bibles, folks, and start doing some research. I'm still trying to figure it out.


EDIT: There's definitely some clues being offered up on this site. I'm no closer to an answer, though.

Some searches to try:
God
Jesus
Good
Bad
Lost
Son
End
Father
Bill
Lois
Doc
Cissy
Butchie
Zippy
Mitch
Kai

[KnoxHarrington]

Here's the Bible verses mentioned above:

11
What father among you would hand his son a snake when he asks for a fish?
12
Or hand him a scorpion when he asks for an egg?
13
If you then, who are wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the Father in heaven give the holy Spirit 5 to those who ask him?"
14
He was driving out a demon (that was) mute, and when the demon had gone out, the mute person spoke and the crowds were amazed.

[KnoxHarrington]

Oh, and add these two verses:

9
"And I tell you, ask and you will receive; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
10
For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

[underdog]

I was three weeks behind because my tv died, but I've now caught up.

2. It's already been shit canned by HBO. It seems they are not happy with its performance and cut back the episodes and will tie it all up real soon. Instead of leaving fans wondering like Carnivale and Deadwood.

Swing and a miss.

John is Jesus.. God And he came here to save the Yost family.. He heals.. He produces everything you ask him to do.. He knows shit that he was not there to see.. The see God Kai thing.. Dillon is the Devil.. The signing kids is not really signing them but taking their souls.. Like he did with Butchy.. And wants to do with Shaun.. Thats why John says to Dillon, the end is near.. meaning his evil.. This show is more interesting and more different than any other show i have ever seen..

That seems like a very popular opinion, one that I agree with. Although, now I think that all of the characters are some sort of biblical character, set in modern times.

Tina is so hot! (http://www.maximonline.com/girls_of_maxim/girl_template.aspx?id=919)

Maxim makes the hottest girls look ugly. They have the WORST photographers ever.

According to IMDB, there were only 6 episodes made, so next week is the 6th. I guess we'll find out next week sometime if HBO will continue. I really hope they do.

According to my Tivo, there are at least 2 more episodes coming.

I was on vacation discussing this show with my wife's family. I'm 27 and I was discussing this show with my wife's 76 year old grandfather (we both can't stop watching because we have so much time invested already, but I think I'm actually in love with this show). I think the show is way more popular than most people think it might be.

[Snoogans]

That seems like a very popular opinion, one that I agree with. Although, now I think that all of the characters are some sort of biblical character, set in modern times.


except the family is based off of a real life surf family, the youngest of the real life surfers being greyson fletcher, the kid who plays Shaun. Not some bible characters

[Kevin]

That seems like a very popular opinion, one that I agree with. Although, now I think that all of the characters are some sort of biblical character, set in modern times.


except the family is based off of a real life surf family, the youngest of the real life surfers being greyson fletcher, the kid who plays Shaun. Not some bible characters

Snoogans posted??

What do you want Snoogans Yost.

[Snoogans]

I want my ounce or my 2300

[KnoxHarrington]

One thing that worries me about the show is that last week's episode really required the kid who plays Shawn to actually act, and he's terrible. That whole little thing where he said "I wish Zippy hadn't kissed me" and then covered his eyes was just embarassing.

I don't know; I'm going to the end with this show, and I'm still not convinced it's not an utterly pretentious piece of crap.

[Reephdweller]

I'm almost completely caught up on now, I am loving this show!!

[marky2bucks]

I just realized...

Sopranos : John From Cincinnati :: Heroin : Methadone

It serves as a replacement, and it fulfills my needs to an extent. But it is nowhere as good as the real thing.

[Kevin]

I just realized...

Sopranos : John From Cincinnati :: Heroin : Methadone

It serves as a replacement, and it fulfills my needs to an extent. But it is nowhere as good as the real thing.

If your saying that Sopranos is better then JFC.. Then your out of your mind.. Sopranos has not been nearly as good as this show since season 3 maybe.. If ever.

[Snoogans]

I am a hell of alot more intrigued about JFC then I ever was from Sopranos. After the 3rd season, watch Sopranos almost became just cause it was on. Almost how Entourage is getting if they don't do something big. I never really looked foward to Sopranos until it was over and then just to see how it ended.

The shows are no where near similar, and if you asked me tomorrow would I rather have one more season of JFC or 10 more seasons of Sopranos, I'd take the JFC season

[marky2bucks]

JFC definitely intrigues me. It has a lot of the same kind of mystery that LOST has (which I love). Where people are actually looking up biblical references and reading deeper into the show. And I do love the show.

Soprano's was a sunday staple. And I was hooked on it like drugs. It fell off from the earlier seasons, but it didn't matter since I was addicted. JFC is filling the void, in the timeslot sense and the well-written drama sense.

I'm switching my addiction from one to another. And the new one is pretty good too. But I like it for different reasons.

[Ax Handle]

I only watched the first episode and it reminded me of Rainman + surfing. Someone please convince me to keep watching.

[LiddyRules]

I only watched the first episode and it reminded me of Rainman + surfing. Someone please convince me to keep watching. It's fucking awesome. I really dont know much more to say. And last week's episode had a lot of laugh out loud moments.

[Snoogans]

Ax, it's a different show. Ive never reallys een anything like it. They leave so much to interpretation, and also, it challenges you to think about things you never would have and see things different ways then you used to. It's really hard to explain, but I don't know 1 person who watched more then 1 episode and doesn't catch every minute now.

[MikeB]

where did ron hear this show was axed?

[Snoogans]

no idea, but i know this season has only 2 eps left anyway

[King Imp]

Sure hope next week wraps it all up and gives us all the answers since it looks like it's not coming back now.

John exiled to Cincinnati (http://www.tvblogger.org/2007/08/john-exiled-to-cincinnati.html)

[Snacks]

Sure hope next week wraps it all up and gives us all the answers since it looks like it's not coming back now.

John exiled to Cincinnati (http://www.tvblogger.org/2007/08/john-exiled-to-cincinnati.html)

"The show has struggled since its debut, garnering mixed reviews and drowning in the ratings. That it's the most confusing show in television history can't have helped. "

part of that statement is ture. It is the most confusing show ever, but thats part of the charm.

As for the ratings drowning how could that be? Everyone I know watches this show and loves it.

[Crispy123]

As for the ratings drowning how could that be? Everyone I know watches this show and loves it.

Could be a bit...to generate buzz.

I have to agree, even though I think it has good moments overall it reaches just a little too far but I have watched every episode so far and Im curious to see how they wrap stuf up in the next episode.

[King Imp]

As for the ratings drowning how could that be? Everyone I know watches this show and loves it.

This is meant with absolutely no disrepect, but I'd hardly call people that you know the measuring stick for all of America. I've clearly read many more scathing reviews of this show than I have positive ones.

[Snacks]

This is meant with absolutely no disrepect, but I'd hardly call people that you know the measuring stick for all of America. I've clearly read many more scathing reviews of this show than I have positive ones.

I understand your point. First who really trusts reviews? I hate reviews of movies and they are usually the opposite of what I like. But most important everyone doesnt mean the whole world but if I know a lot of people and they like the show and they tell me that everyone they talk to likes the show and on and on then doesnt that mean a lot of people are watching?

All I know is they better explain everything in this last episode. I need answers and closure.

[thepaulo]

reminds me of Mamet and Beckett and and Pinter.....there is a certain poetry to the insanity....

[Furtherman]

It's too bad. I really liked the show but unless they saw the axe coming, I can't see the finale being anything but vague with its answers.

[LiddyRules]

FUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK.

I love this show. This wasn't a show that I cared about the answers. I didn't want answers. I just wanted to go on the ride. I was so caught up with the tone and vibe of the show and that never happens. I loved it all. Stupid HBO. First Carnivale, then Deadwood, then cutting Rome down to 2 seasons, now this? I'm pissed.

(Though I did hope when Shaun comes back with John he becomes a knock out, "holy shit this kid is amazing" fantastic actor and the first 9 episodes was just to fool us."

[spadanko]

I really started liking this show about 4 episodes in or so... i hope it gets pciked up

[KnoxHarrington]

What the fuck?

[BoondockSaint]

Well, that really wrapped everything up. It answered all of the questions, that's for sure.

[Reephdweller]

What the fuck?


My thoughts exactly. I've watched this from the beginning, and now I'm more puzzled than ever.

[KnoxHarrington]

My thoughts exactly. I've watched this from the beginning, and now I'm more puzzled than ever.

Not only were no questions answered, everything was confused that much more.

Like who the fuck was that used car salesman that knew so much about them all? Had we ever seen him before?

The only question that got answered was one I had: "Was I wasting my time watching this show?"

[Kathleen From The Bronx]

FUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK.

I love this show. This wasn't a show that I cared about the answers. I didn't want answers. I just wanted to go on the ride. I was so caught up with the tone and vibe of the show and that never happens. I loved it all. "

I absolutely feel the same way bout this show, exactly!

[spadanko]

So was that a combo of Cas and Kai at the end? Mother of God CasKai?

is that what he said?

[spadanko]

did a search for 9-11-14 and got this


11When Christ came as high priest of the good things that are already here,[a] he went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not man-made, that is to say, not a part of this creation. 12He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, having obtained eternal redemption. 13The blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who are ceremonially unclean sanctify them so that they are outwardly clean. 14How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death,[b] so that we may serve the living God!

[Kathleen From The Bronx]

I think the combo was, "Mother of God, Cass, Kai"

[Reephdweller]

I am so intrigued by this show, it's all over the place and out there - but there's something oddly fascinating about the storylines. I love how these people are all connected now, and at one point weren't. As the shows have gone on more people keep coming into the fold around the hotel and story gets deeper.

It seems like the show is dead, but I really hope by some chance it does make it's way back.

[Reephdweller]

I keep thinking about the connection between Mitch and Shawn, of how Mitch has the power of levitation and Shawn rose from death and in the last episode seemingly from the heavens with John before ending up surfing the waves at Imperial Beach. Nothing as significant seems to have happened to Butchie other than him getting closer with Kai and straightening himself out.

[marky2bucks]

In an effort to try to figure out this show, the opening song lyrics...


Lord, there goes Johnny Appleseed
He might pass by in the hour of need
There's a lot of souls
Ain't drinking from no well locked in a factory

Hey - look there goes
Hey - look there goes
If you're after getting the honey - hey
Then you don't go killing all the bees

Lord, there goes Martin Luther King
Notice how the door closes when the chimes of freedom ring
I hear what you're saying, I hear what he's saying
*Is what was true now no longer so

Hey - I hear what you're saying
Hey - I hear what he's saying
If you're after getting the honey - hey
Then you don't go killing all the bees

What the people are saying
And we know every road - go, go
What the people are saying
There ain't no berries on the trees

Let the summertime sun
Fall on the apple - fall on the apple

Lord, there goes a Buick forty-nine
Black sheep of the angels riding, riding down the line
We think there is a soul, we don't know
That soul is hard to find

Hey - down along the road
Hey - down along the road
If you're after getting the honey
Then you don't go killing all the bees

Hey - it's what the people are saying
It's what the people are saying
Hey - there ain't no berries on the trees
Hey - that's what the people are saying, no berries on the trees
You're checking out the honey, baby
You had to go killin' all the bees

[Furtherman]

Unfortunatley, if the show is not renewed (and I still haven't seen an offical statement), that song is the only thing that will last for me. I loved the show and the characters, but too much was left unsaid for it to ever stand alone as a one season show.

[celery]

I don't know how much the lyrics have to do with the show, but it's such an amazing song. Can't get it out of my head after R&F played it today.

In an effort to try to figure out this show, the opening song lyrics...


Lord, there goes Johnny Appleseed
He might pass by in the hour of need
There's a lot of souls
Ain't drinking from no well locked in a factory
...

[King Imp]

And, with the end of the show, aside from the tidbit that Butchie used to carry groceries for Bill Jacks' wife, we still were never given any background on him or why he is tight with the Yost family. Absolutely piss poor character development in this show.

And what the hell did Howard Hessman have to do with anything? How about the car salesman guy? Who the fuck was he? Did we really need to be introduced to two more characters from Hawaii at the very end and then have no clue what any of that was about? And God's big plan was for Dickstein to finally get a blowjob?

[Snoogans]

the show wasnt supposed to end thats why

[Snoogans]

And, with the end of the show, aside from the tidbit that Butchie used to carry groceries for Bill Jacks' wife, we still were never given any background on him or why he is tight with the Yost family. Absolutely piss poor character development in this show.

And what the hell did Howard Hessman have to do with anything? How about the car salesman guy? Who the fuck was he? Did we really need to be introduced to two more characters from Hawaii at the very end and then have no clue what any of that was about? And God's big plan was for Dickstein to finally get a blowjob?

as for your first post, yes he did. Bill decided to look after Butchie when he got in trouble cause his wife said oh thats the nice boy who used to carry my groceries. So Bill kinda got tight with them watching out for Butchie

[HBox]

John From Cincinnati not renewed. (http://www.reuters.com/article/televisionNews/idUSN1436414520070814)

I haven't seen an episode yet. I missed them for a while but I always intended to start watching from the beginning on HBO on Demand. Then I heard it mgiht not be renewed so I waited. Now that I see it isn't should I even bother? Was there any closure at all? Did they leave you hanging as bad as Carnivale? or Deadwood?

[Snacks]

John From Cincinnati not renewed. (http://www.reuters.com/article/televisionNews/idUSN1436414520070814)

I haven't seen an episode yet. I missed them for a while but I always intended to start watching from the beginning on HBO on Demand. Then I heard it mgiht not be renewed so I waited. Now that I see it isn't should I even bother? Was there any closure at all? Did they leave you hanging as bad as Carnivale? or Deadwood?

the show was so fucked up that it was great. The characters and story lines were all over the place, yet fascinating. I would say watch it because it was so enjoyable. But no answers are ever given, you will never understand what its about and they give you know closure. Brilliant show but leaves you wanting and needing to understand and know more but never do.

Every week I would look at my cousin and say "wtf was that" or "did they explain anything this week? No answers but I tuned in every Sunday night.

Make your decision, but if you watch it you may be pissed you get no closure. Enjoy, let us know what you think!

[nassue]

i can't fucking believe they took this away

i was such a big fan i know i wasn't going to get any answers
i just enjoyed the way it was unraveling

now that hbo cancelled it
i really don't see any reason to pay the extra twelve bucks a month

why does everything in entertainment have to be like everything else
it's rare that something really different comes along

thanks for nothing hbo

[BoondockSaint]

I just canceled my HBO and ran over my cable box.

[Chimee]

Did you put it up on Youtube?

[KnoxHarrington]

And did you fuck your mother?

The show ending like this means my judgment on it will forever be suspended. I needed to see how things played out a little more before I really knew if this was a great show or just pretentious pot talk. I won't get that now.

[Landblast]

I needed to see how things played out a little more before I really knew if this was a great show or just pretentious pot talk.

I think it was both. I grew to really like the show, but here's what the execs/programmers at HBO thought.

It was an experiment. It failed. It was our attempt at LOST. No one gets it. No one is watching. It's cancelled. Next?

The viewership for this show must of been abysmal.

[Enabler]

I enjoyed this show more for the performances than the plot. Ed O'Neil, the Hawaiians, the 3 motel guys...were all excellent. I think that season can stand alone. I loved the show.

[LiddyRules]

I am really upset that it's gone. I loved the vibe, I loved the meaning, I thought it was smart and funny and I was genuinely interested in it and the characters. And S2 looked like it would have been amazing. Stupid HBO. First Carnivale, then Two-Seasoning Rome, then this?

[Reynolds]

And, with the end of the show, aside from the tidbit that Butchie used to carry groceries for Bill Jacks' wife, we still were never given any background on him or why he is tight with the Yost family. Absolutely piss poor character development in this show.

And what the hell did Howard Hessman have to do with anything? How about the car salesman guy? Who the fuck was he? Did we really need to be introduced to two more characters from Hawaii at the very end and then have no clue what any of that was about? And God's big plan was for Dickstein to finally get a blowjob?

Steven Hawk, a writer for the show writes an article on HBO.com every week that gives a more in depth explanation of every episode. He had this to say about the car dealership scene.

The scene in which Linc (Luke Perry), Jake (Mark-Paul Gosselaar) and John (Austin Nichols) buy an El Camino from the Dealer (Peter Jason) at the Cherry Oldies car lot is probably the most important puzzle-solving moment of the season. It's not my place to provide a line-by-line interpretation, but I can say this: If you sensed that the car-buying sequence provides some clues about why John has come to Imperial Beach -- and about the show's fundamental cosmology and intent -- trust your instincts. Here's a transcript, with narrative from the original script:

So you say it was pointless, writer says it was the most important puzzle-solving moment of the season.

Whole article is here.

http://www.hbo.com/johnfromcincinnati/inside/season1/episode10.html

[Furtherman]

Whole article is here.

http://www.hbo.com/johnfromcincinnati/inside/season1/episode10.html

Fantastic article! Put the show in good perspective. Too bad it's gone. Meet the fucking Jetsons.

[LiddyRules]

I thought the car dealer was John's father or other relative. I also thought John took Shaun on some sort of battle in an intergalatic water war like in The last Starfighter. Thanks for the article.

[BoondockSaint]

And did you fuck your mother?




Yes, but not just mine.

[thepaulo]

There will continue to be a lot of discussion about John from Cincinnati
There was very little closure.....the show appears to be officially canceled...
here's a good article that seemed to point in many directions about any potential future for the show....

http://newteevee.com/2007/08/14/john...ine/#more-1848

[mikeyboy]

I completely ignored this show for the whole season. I missed the first few episodes and then never cared about catching up. Then I saw that HBO has a JFC podcast available on iTunes, complete with ipod video version of the pilot. I downloaded it to have a little content to watch while traveling. I finally watched the pilot last week, and it intrigued me enough that I watched the next 6 episodes over a two day period. I went into it knowing that the show had been cancelled and that there was no real closure, so I'm not expecting any real letdown from the finale. It's a very intriguing show that sucks you in even if it's tough to get a handle on what some of it all means. I'm not surprised that it's gone, though. Even on HBO, it would have had a tough time finding an audience.

Oh yeah, and the Yost kid is a hideous actor. I guess they wanted a kid who could really surf and skate, but he drags the show down with his inability to do a simple line reading.

[mikeyboy]

Oh yeah, and I had no idea that Jennifer Grey (of Dirty Dancing fame) played Dickstein's fiance.

[Judge Smails]

Oh yeah, and I had no idea that Jennifer Grey (of Dirty Dancing fame) played Dickstein's fiance.

Yeah, me too. I saw her name flash on the end credits during the final episode and I said to myself "Did that just say Jennifer Grey?" I had no idea what role she could have possibly played. I had to go and look it up online to confirm I wasn't seeing things. Nobody makes Baby suck a dick under the covers.

[Judge Smails]

SaveJFC.net (http://savejfc.net/)

This group is based in Spring Lake, NJ. The second best thing to come out of Spring Lake. The first of course being future ABC bachelor, Pattrick Clark.

Hey, it couldn't hurt to sign the PETITION (http://www.petitiononline.com/savejfc/petition.html), could it?

http://savejfc.net/ad_variety/variety_screenshot_sm.jpg

[MHasegawa]

Shit, if it worked for The Wire, it's worth a shot for JFC. This was the first show I've caught and followed from the beginning and would love to have all my questions answered from the first season.

[Reynolds]

Can't find shit about it being renewed... anyone??

[Furtherman]

Can't find shit about it being renewed... anyone??

Keep looking.

[Furtherman]

JFC first, and only, season is being released on DVD next week.

I don't know if I'll be picking it up though, considering so much was left unanswered. It would just be too frustrating to experience it's greatness again only to have it cut short.

[RhinoinMN]

I JUST watched the first two episodes last night. Needless to say I am very intrigued and impressed. I am not going to read this thread for obvious reasons, but I will ask: Should I continue watching knowing that there will be no conclusive end?

[Servo]

I JUST watched the first two episodes last night. Needless to say I am very intrigued and impressed. I am not going to read this thread for obvious reasons, but I will ask: Should I continue watching knowing that there will be no conclusive end?

I would say watch it, but prepare to be extremely frustrated when the finale is over.

[mikeyboy]

I JUST watched the first two episodes last night. Needless to say I am very intrigued and impressed. I am not going to read this thread for obvious reasons, but I will ask: Should I continue watching knowing that there will be no conclusive end?

Yeah. I watched it knowing the same thing going in and I enjoyed it.

[RhinoinMN]

Yeah. I watched it knowing the same thing going in and I enjoyed it.

I will forge ahead then. I just have a feeling that it will be like riding the best and longest waterslide that ends in a pile of diarrhea.

I really did enjoy the first two. It reminds me of nothing that I have seen to date.

A shame that it won't get another chance.

[nate1000]

It is such a tease every time this thread gets bumped. I get all excited just to find out nope. still cancelled.

[barjockey]

I'm watching the series again. From the 1st episode he says "The end is near" Sorry to say he was right. :dry:

[epo]

I found the DVD collection at Best Buy today for $14.99, instead of the regular $34.99.

Edit: A link to the deal also on their website. (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8728246&st=cincinnati&type=product&id=1786266)

[IamFogHat]

I finished it yesterday, goddamn was that a great show. There are a lot of really brilliant shows out there that you can watch or catch up on on DVD or whatever, especially from HBO, but there was something about this show that really made me happy. Like I can't think of any other way to say it, it literally made me happy to be alive and made me feel really warm and elated on the inside.
I fuckin' can't wait to buy my own copy of it and show my chick.

Also it's nice to be at the cool table now:wink: I got my eye on you!

[IamFogHat]

Since it's a bump night I may as well bring this up cause I'm watching it again right now. And I think one of the reasons I love it so much is because in a weird way it is at its core a show about how people love each other. You have to watch it to know what I mean but goddammit I'm on ep three and I've already been reduced to tears like six times.

[joeyballsack]

Why isn't this available on any HBO on demand services ?

Is it available anywhere besides DVD ?

[Snacks]

Weird that this thread gets bumped right as Im finishing up re-watching the show. Its even better watching it 4 or 5 years later. Ed O'Neil should have received tons of awards for this. He did an amazing job every eps and is one of the reasons I love this show.

[BoondockSaint]

Weird that this thread gets bumped right as Im finishing up re-watching the show. Its even better watching it 4 or 5 years later. Ed O'Neil should have received tons of awards for this. He did an amazing job every eps and is one of the reasons I love this show.

Agreed. He was awesome on that show. I got my eye on YOU.

[Snacks]

Agreed. He was awesome on that show. I got my eye on YOU.

NO! I got my eye on YOU!

Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ!!!