Mafialife.com Press Release

[Mafialife Chris]

As of May 17 2007, we pulled our future advertising spots from XM Radio, The Virus (Channel 202). We have done this in response to XM Radio's censoring of the Opie and Anthony Show by suspending them for 30 days. XM Radio is catering to special interest groups, and in our opinion has lied to the public. They promised uncesored humor, and we will not tollerate this censoring over what we feel was a humorous joke. We would like to thank www.peopleagainstcensorship.com for all the efforts to get Opie and Anthony back on XM, and for means to show XM they cannot lie to the public and make money! I have contacted other XM Radio advertisers and have asked them to pull their spots as well as cancelled my own radio subs.



Chris Chiarmonte
President, Aifam-Life, Inc
Owner, www.mafialife.com

PS: Of course i still listen to Ron and Fez LIVE in the Big Ass Room on Paltalk.com for the meantime.

[DonInNC]

PS: Of course i still listen to Ron and Fez LIVE in the Big Ass Room on Paltalk.com for the meantime.

Isn't that like being on a hunger strike and sneaking off to the fridge when no one's looking?

[sailor]

nah, they're not getting his money. it's more like protesting a supermarket and then robbing them of groceries.

[Don Stugots]

Good for you Chris. Stand up for what you believe in.

[lleeder]

[QUOTE=MafiaLifeChris;1319730]As of May 17 2007, we pulled our future advertising

QUOTE]

Great Scott!!!, you pulled advertising from the future.

[JustJon]

PS: Of course i still listen to Ron and Fez LIVE in the Big Ass Room on Paltalk.com for the meantime.

Is it really a good idea to announce you're stealing service from a company at the end of your press release stating that you are no longer paying for their service?

[epo]

I'm sure that Mafia Life Chris has the best of intentions, but that is not a press release that anyone in the media would take seriously.

[Dudeman]

unfortunately, considering this is ronfez.net, it sounds more like a "we don't give a crap about the ron and fez show, and we don't listen to them" press release.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I guess this means that Chris is going to stop doing his Soprano spots now, right? Because that's free advertising.

I guess this also means that people won't be showing up in Mafialife gear at R&F events while O&A are gone, because again, that's free advertising.

[torker]

I'm sure that Mafia Life Chris has the best of intentions, but that is not a press release that anyone in the media would take seriously.

They promised uncesored humor

ooops

[johnniewalker]

I'm sure that Mafia Life Chris has the best of intentions, but that is not a press release that anyone in the media would take seriously.

You'd be surprised, I never thought the press would cite Nashville Coffee as evidence of advertisers pulling in support, but that was up on drudge last night. Through this situation i've noticed that the press really isn't afraid to cite blogs or message boards.

[J.Clints]

Good Work Chris.

[Mafialife Chris]

Is it really a good idea to announce you're stealing service from a company at the end of your press release stating that you are no longer paying for their service?

Jon, i posted that "additional info" on Ron and Fez boards only, just to "notify" you that i will still be listenning. It was not included in my press release to the companies nor the reps i been dealing with.

Thanks for busting my balls though.

Thanks for the all the support emails, and care. It was a hit that i feel very happy about. I have received over 100 emails already thanking me, and asking what they can do to support if they do not play games:
1. Nothing, the email was good enough to make my day! If it was not enough for you, check number 2.
2. Go to http://store.mafialife.com and purchase some Mafialife.com shirts.
3. You can donate, using paypal to: chris@mafialife.com.

Most importantly, thanks to all of you for making a difference. I have a good feeling about this!! God Bless.

PS: i specifically posted the answers to many questions emailed to me, there truly is no need to do anything but pray O and A are back IMEDIATELY!!

[Mafialife Chris]

I guess this means that Chris is going to stop doing his Soprano spots now, right? Because that's free advertising.

I guess this also means that people won't be showing up in Mafialife gear at R&F events while O&A are gone, because again, that's free advertising.

You have to truly be kidding me right?
I cannot believe this!!
Only a scumbag like you would dissrespect a move that not only costed me money, but may have costed me my friend of the show rates. I took a chance, hoping it would make a difference.
Apparently, it doesnt to a dick like you.
I am not doing the segment for free advertising. I am doing it as a part of the show.
Why dont you call up and complain to Ron and Fez if it bothers you so much? You know what day i'll be on.
Seriously,
If you are not standing by my decision to do this, why not just stay out of the thread. Why the fuck do u feel the need to dissrespect a bold move that is for the better good for the cause.

[DonInNC]

You have to truly be kidding me right?
I cannot believe this!!
Only a scumbag like you would dissrespect a move that not only costed me money, but may have costed me my friend of the show rates. I took a chance, hoping it would make a difference.
Apparently, it doesnt to a dick like you.
I am not doing the segment for free advertising. I am doing it as a part of the show.
Why dont you call up and complain to Ron and Fez if it bothers you so much? You know what day i'll be on.
Seriously,
If you are not standing by my decision to do this, why not just stay out of the thread. Why the fuck do u feel the need to dissrespect a bold move that is for the better good for the cause.


For what its worth, I agree with Tenbats. Either boycott XM or don't. You're not the only one, I think there's a lot of people who want to have their cake and eat it to. I think it's admirable that people are sacrificing for the greater good, but there's been a lot of bullshit that has gone along with this thing.

[Fat_Sunny]

Geez, Tough Crowd!

Think Globally....Act Locally. Anyone Who Takes Even A Small Step To Make A Statement Is OK In Fat's Book. Why Does It Have To Be All Or Nothing?

[J.Clints]

Geez, Tough Crowd!

Think Globally....Act Locally. Anyone Who Takes Even A Small Step To Make A Statement Is OK In Fat's Book. Why Does It Have To Be All Or Nothing?

I agree with F_S. Chris has done plenty. Thanks Chris.

[johnniewalker]

Geez, Tough Crowd!

Think Globally....Act Locally. Anyone Who Takes Even A Small Step To Make A Statement Is OK In Fat's Book. Why Does It Have To Be All Or Nothing?

It was tenbats...

[Tenbatsuzen]

It was tenbats...

Sure, blame me. A boycott is a boycott. Anything less and you are a hypocrite.

You want to make a statement against XM radio? Pull your advertising, cancel your subscription, flush your XM down the toilet, don't make appearances and go fuck your mother. People don't seem to understand that this was 30 days for insubordination, not 30 days for content.

I don't agree with the suspension, but I'm not making statements against the fact. I'd only do that if they were fired. All statements from XM has been that O&A are coming back and this is basically a move to keep O&A in check. They aren't saying they are "launching an investigation" or something similar. They basically said, "O&A talked about it when we told them not to. So we're taking them off for 30 days."

I'm keeping my subscription because I like listening to R&F and anything less rings hollow. If O&A were actually fired, then I would consider long and hard about cancelling.

Chris, you can't make an attention-seeking statement that you're pulling your advertising and then still appear on Ron and Fez as "MafiaLife Chris" and have notable 202 personalities like Big A show up at XM events wearing Mafialife gear, because you are still advertising your product, which is even MORE devious because you're getting it for free against a captive audience.

Here's what you can do.

DON'T appear on the R&F XM show. Appear on the Free-FM show. DON'T identify yourself as "Mafialife Chris", rather, "Chris from Brooklyn" or something.

That's all. You want to have a boycott and still appear as part of the show? That's how you can have some principles in this bullshit.

[Tenbatsuzen]

If you are not standing by my decision to do this, why not just stay out of the thread. Why the fuck do u feel the need to dissrespect a bold move that is for the better good for the cause.

You need more exclamation points.

[MikeB]

You guys need to go easier on mafia life chris. I do not like the idea of calling him a liar or insinuating that he does not "get something." For shame.




ANNNNNNDDD scene.

[Tenbatsuzen]

You guys need to go easier on mafia life chris. I do not like the idea of calling him a liar or insinuating that he does not "get something." For shame.




ANNNNNNDDD scene.

Now, now. I never called Chris a liar. A hypocrite and a bad speller? Sure. Liar? Never!

[Bulldogcakes]

For what its worth, I agree with Tenbats. Either boycott XM or don't. You're not the only one, I think there's a lot of people who want to have their cake and eat it to. I think it's admirable that people are sacrificing for the greater good, but there's been a lot of bullshit that has gone along with this thing.

Yeah, count me in with the "In or out" crowd.

This is what happens when people start doing their own PR.

[johnniewalker]

I don't agree with the suspension, but I'm not making statements against the fact. I'd only do that if they were fired. All statements from XM has been that O&A are coming back and this is basically a move to keep O&A in check. They aren't saying they are "launching an investigation" or something similar. They basically said, "O&A talked about it when we told them not to. So we're taking them off for 30 days."


I was just fucking around. Also, I totally get that this is a ron and fez fan site and if you think that keeping your sub is helping them that's completely fine. Everyone can do what they want to help out. I'm totally not trashing ya for that. The only thing I don't agree with you is that only thing this is only about insubordination. If you think that you are not looking at the whole picture. O and A have said way worse things than this on an almost daily basis. This would have never happened before Imus. You have to account for that. I think your take that its just insubordination is just as speculative as a possiblity that they were taking some serious heat for not punishing them and taking into account the merger. Im not bringing up anything new, i'm just saying to say its just insubordination is to ignore a lot of other things.

[Bulldogcakes]

Geez, Tough Crowd!

Think Globally....Act Locally. Anyone Who Takes Even A Small Step To Make A Statement Is OK In Fat's Book. Why Does It Have To Be All Or Nothing?

I'll give you the definition of "Boycott" (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/boycott)

to abstain from buying or using

If your taking a stand on principle, to still use the service to promote (intentionally or not) your site is hypocritical at best.
And I don't remember hearing Chris on Don Stugot's show recently. You know, just to do a spot.

[lleeder]

Does anyone actually think XM knows that MafiaLifeChris has a Sopranos Update on Ron&Fez? I would almost guarantee that they have little or no knowledge of specific characters or bits on the show. They only know about something if its negative. There are no XM executives saying "Hey we lost this guy as a sponser, yet he calls into the show" Its just not happening. If you think MafiaLifeChris is being fake thats one thing but don't act like a Sopranos Update is causing a huge conflict of interests cause its not. Bash the guy if you want but do it for a real reason. If he feels pulling money off the channel will help I commend him for trying to help. Cut the guy one ounce of slack.

[Fat_Sunny]

I'll give you the definition of "Boycott" (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/boycott)



If your taking a stand on principle, to still use the service to promote (intentionally or not) your site is hypocritical at best.
And I don't remember hearing Chris on Don Stugot's show recently. You know, just to do a spot.


Bulldogcakes, MafiaChris Did NOT Say He Was Boycotting XM. He Said: "As of May 17 2007, we pulled our future advertising spots from XM Radio, The Virus (Channel 202). We have done this in response to XM Radio's censoring of the Opie and Anthony Show by suspending them for 30 days."

His Way To Protest Was Not To Boycott, But To Pull His Advertising, Which (In A Small But Symbolic Way) Hits XM In The Pocketbook.

If His Way To Protest Is To Pull His Paid Advertising, As Opposed To A Full-Out Boycott, Why Is That A Problem? You Protest Your Way, He Protests His Way.

How In The World Is He A Hypocrite, When All He Claimed To Do Is Pull His Paid Advertising?

[Don Stugots]

BDC he is a sponsor of the movies i give away.

[lleeder]

he is a sponsor of the movies i give away.

Well everyone has faults

[epo]

You'd be surprised, I never thought the press would cite Nashville Coffee as evidence of advertisers pulling in support, but that was up on drudge last night. Through this situation i've noticed that the press really isn't afraid to cite blogs or message boards.

You are right that the nature of press is changing, but I do this sort of thing for a living and this would be seen as "homemade PR" by the nicest of media editors.

[Snacks]

Jon, i posted that "additional info" on Ron and Fez boards only, just to "notify" you that i will still be listenning. It was not included in my press release to the companies nor the reps i been dealing with.

Thanks for busting my balls though.

Thanks for the all the support emails, and care. It was a hit that i feel very happy about. I have received over 100 emails already thanking me, and asking what they can do to support if they do not play games:
1. Nothing, the email was good enough to make my day! If it was not enough for you, check number 2.
2. Go to http://store.mafialife.com and purchase some Mafialife.com shirts.
3. You can donate, using paypal to: chris@mafialife.com.

Most importantly, thanks to all of you for making a difference. I have a good feeling about this!! God Bless.

PS: i specifically posted the answers to many questions emailed to me, there truly is no need to do anything but pray O and A are back IMEDIATELY!!

Why would anyone donate money to you? What is it that your doing that needs donations? Seems odd that an advertiser is asking for donations b/c they pulled their ads. Could you imagine if Pepsi asked for money for pulling ads from Imus? It makes no sense.

After reading this whole thread it seems like your using the O&A issue to get yourself or website more publicity not b/c your doing it for the right reasons. Thats my opinion and understanding. Just like your opinion or understanding of the Sopranos is so wrong, maybe I'm wrong about you and what your real motive is here. I seriously doubt it.

[Don Stugots]

BDC he is a sponsor of the movies i give away.

Well everyone has faults

smart ass, i was responding to BDC.

[Mafialife Chris]

Sure, blame me. A boycott is a boycott. Anything less and you are a hypocrite.

You want to make a statement against XM radio? Pull your advertising, cancel your subscription, flush your XM down the toilet, don't make appearances and go fuck your mother. People don't seem to understand that this was 30 days for insubordination, not 30 days for content.

I don't agree with the suspension, but I'm not making statements against the fact. I'd only do that if they were fired. All statements from XM has been that O&A are coming back and this is basically a move to keep O&A in check. They aren't saying they are "launching an investigation" or something similar. They basically said, "O&A talked about it when we told them not to. So we're taking them off for 30 days."

I'm keeping my subscription because I like listening to R&F and anything less rings hollow. If O&A were actually fired, then I would consider long and hard about cancelling.

Chris, you can't make an attention-seeking statement that you're pulling your advertising and then still appear on Ron and Fez as "MafiaLife Chris" and have notable 202 personalities like Big A show up at XM events wearing Mafialife gear, because you are still advertising your product, which is even MORE devious because you're getting it for free against a captive audience.

Here's what you can do.

DON'T appear on the R&F XM show. Appear on the Free-FM show. DON'T identify yourself as "Mafialife Chris", rather, "Chris from Brooklyn" or something.

That's all. You want to have a boycott and still appear as part of the show? That's how you can have some principles in this bullshit.


I have a relationship with the show, that is not going to change whether i advertise or not. Thats all up to Ron and Fez. I have been consulting with Ron with every move i make, and from what i can make from his words, he does NOT feel the way you do! Of course tenn, you can always voice YOUR opinion.

This is obviously a personal attack, because if you review almost every post ive made, you will see mr Tenndick riding my dick on all of them! Hardly anyone i talk to likes you, who gives a fuck what you think.

I'm not going to boycott Ron and Fez! like you ask. Ron said it himself, he has his own corperation, he works for XM, but he also works for HIMSELF!

Your thinking way too much on a business end of things when it comes to my so called "Mafialife Chris" calls. (i certainly would NOT call it a character at this time). Sure, i had to make a business move in the area i do "business" with XM. But, i assure you, the call-ins, and the whole Mafialife Chris thing is a personal relationship with the show from doing NON-Business things as well as business things.

You should seperate the 2. I had to when making this move, and it was not easy. Your not going to call me on it, and get respect. I am HAPPY about my choice. And i will save the money i had in budget for those July/Aug ads, and when things are back to normal, i will re-invest it taking my penalty loss for pulling ads i have already signed to do.

This move is a move that i feel will get O and A back. You are 100% wrong about them being suspended ONLY. If your believing Xm when they say that, i got a bridge to sell ya. No radio show gets there job back after a suspention. It's just a preliminary move to firing them! THIS move, what we (me and other xm advertisers) have done, is a move that will get O and A back! Then i'll have my 2 favorite radio shows, and renew my subs, and continue my ads.

You, my friend, come off as a jealous cunt! Seperate the personal form the business. I still LOVE the show, i STILL have the same relationship with Ron, Fez, and the rest of the show!! Despite your hatred for me, and you can go fuck yourself!

[ralphbxny]

I say Chris is a stand up guy. He is doing what he believes. So he has an alternative way of listening to the show. Who cares? He is doing what he needs to do. Plus Don Stu has to protect his show sponser too. I say Chris keep doing what ya have to do. Opinions on this board shouldnt sway anyone if they believe something!!!

[Mafialife Chris]

Why would anyone donate money to you? What is it that your doing that needs donations? Seems odd that an advertiser is asking for donations b/c they pulled their ads. Could you imagine if Pepsi asked for money for pulling ads from Imus? It makes no sense.

After reading this whole thread it seems like your using the O&A issue to get yourself or website more publicity not b/c your doing it for the right reasons. Thats my opinion and understanding. Just like your opinion or understanding of the Sopranos is so wrong, maybe I'm wrong about you and what your real motive is here. I seriously doubt it.

As i stated clearly, i have been getting mass emails asking what people can do "if" they dont play the game. They all made reference to the posts i made here or on other boards, so i answered them. Mostly letting anyone who reads it know, there email was enough. Only a tool like you would focus on something that would "twist" my real motive into some bogus one.
Do me a favor, and stop trying to twist my words. It is uncool.

[Bulldogcakes]

BDC he is a sponsor of the movies i give away.

I know, here's his exact words

I am not doing the segment for free advertising. I am doing it as a part of the show.

Which is pretty tough to take. Of course it benefits his site to do an extended spot on a popular show. So I just responded that I don't hear him doing other long spots just to help other shows, like yours for example. But even if he does do other shows, it benefits his site to do so. Lets just try to be honest here.

BTW-I'm not trying to start a stupid board fight here. That one line was just tough to swallow.

[Don Stugots]

ralphy, i dont agree with Chris or anyone listening to XM for free, but who am i to judge. i cant knock him for him. Him pulling his ads and then going back to XM when this mess is over and done with is his way of doing what he feels is right. i really cant knock the guy for it. I dont agree, but i cant say he is wrong.

we all do what we feel we need to do. it is the burden of being an adult.

[BoondockSaint]

I give this thread 3 pinky rings.

[johnniewalker]

I give this thread 3 pinky rings.

Haha, that and the tubthumping joke had me rolling.

[Bulldogcakes]

I give this thread 3 pinky rings.

Dont you just love it? Guy tries to help and winds up getting attacked for it. Its like being married to a psycho bitch.

No good deed goes unpunished, baby.

[Mafialife Chris]

I'll give you the definition of "Boycott" (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/boycott)



If your taking a stand on principle, to still use the service to promote (intentionally or not) your site is hypocritical at best.
And I don't remember hearing Chris on Don Stugot's show recently. You know, just to do a spot.


What dont you get, i dont do the phone call-ins for business. I do it because i love the show, and want to contribute. I never ONCE got a game plug for doing the sopranos gig. And if Don Stu did NOT take my back on this thread and had agreed with tenn, i STILL would be paying for those dvd's he hands out. Becaise i like "doing" for the community. For the true buddays! This is NOT about PR. It was about making a statement to the boards that i frequent. Maybe its you that has the business head too hardcore, maybe you are reflecting about what you may do. Not me sirs!! I am done here. I wont argue in defense for myself anymore.
Support my move, support my phonecalls, or NOT!
I will always love the Ron and Fez Show and all true "buddays", and the important people know this!!
Haters can suck a dick!

[Mafialife Chris]

ralphy, i dont agree with Chris or anyone listening to XM for free, but who am i to judge. i cant knock him for him. Him pulling his ads and then going back to XM when this mess is over and done with is his way of doing what he feels is right. i really cant knock the guy for it. I dont agree, but i cant say he is wrong.

we all do what we feel we need to do. it is the burden of being an adult.

Don, i think they are just trying to make my shitlist, lol

[Don Stugots]

Don, i think they are just trying to make my shitlist, lol

hahaha.

seriously, do you think you did the right thing? yes. do i? to a point but i still dont think you are doing anything wrong by calling in. you are calling in as Mafialifechris and not as the owner of mafialife.com. i havent heard all of the reports, truth be told, i heard two of them and i didnt hear a "that was mafialifechris, checkout his wedbiste......", which proves your point.

i do think that people canceling their XM service hurts ron & fez. listening for free too hurts them. i wouldnt cancel the service. you see it different and are ready to handle the $$$ penalty when you go back as a listener and as an advertiser, again, the burden of being an adult.

[TheMojoPin]

I'll supoort this move if I can have a free membership to MafiaLife.com.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Chris, let it be known that I never personally attacked you in your thread. Quite honestly, I think you're a brilliant marketer because you've taken ever opportunity you've had to plug your site. When you knock up Frenchy, I'm sure you'll see a MafiaLife temporary tattoo on her belly.

I didn't flame you, I even gave you an opportunity to be a part of your show without promoting your site. Like it or not, your screenname is promotion for your site.

However, you've called me a "dick", "jealous cunt", "scumbag", that "nobody likes me", among other things. I think it's YOU who needs to separate the business from the personal, as I've been NOTHING but business in this thread and YOU my friend has taken it very, very personal.

I also find it interesting that you're basically regurgitating everything that O&A has said about the Wee for a Wii firing, the Imus firing and the JV and Elvis firing about suspensions, and accusing me of being an XM shill. Here's the difference; XM was supporting O&A before they went and started talking too much about the issue when they were told not to.

Also, here's the difference between the four incidents - Wee for a Wii someone DIED, Imus story was WAAY too hot to go away and I think CBS overreacted, and JV and Elvis had no ratings and were difficult to work with.

O&A are the top show on XM, but XM needs the heat to die down. But O&A talked about it too much.

THAT'S what the suspension was for, NOT the original bit! People are getting confused between the two issues. Do you honestly think if XM was going to "cave" to pressure that they would have told Sharpton to go shit in a pot? The story is basically dead except for PAC making some waves. There's no outcry like the Imus story. The media isn't pounding it. It's all but gone away.

That's why I think everyone is overreacting. If they were fired from XM, then I could see the outcry, but at this point, if you wait it out, everything will be OK. The heat will be off and everyone will be happy.

But back to you - quit engaging in personal attacks because it just makes you look stupid. I've been very even handed in dealing with you, when you've basically used nearly all of your 150 posts here to promote either MafiaLife or Spread the Iris.

I mean, seriously. Does anybody here know anything about you other than the fact you're on Spread the Iris, you run MafiaLife, and you fuck frenchy?

I'm glad you're cancelling the advertising. I'm sure XM will miss that $2500.

[Tenbatsuzen]

What dont you get, i dont do the phone call-ins for business. I do it because i love the show, and want to contribute. I never ONCE got a game plug for doing the sopranos gig.

Uh, then what do you call being identified as "MafiaLifeChris"?

[Mafialife Chris]

I mean, seriously. Does anybody here know anything about you other than the fact you're on Spread the Iris, you run MafiaLife, and you fuck frenchy?

I'm glad you're cancelling the advertising. I'm sure XM will miss that $2500.

Yes, i have some true buddays in this community that know more about me then that, including the show. In fact your opinions reflect a serious minority. If you were one of those budday's you would know that those few things you have said about me are not "ALL" of what i am about, there is plenty more to me to this community in the last 6 years i have been here. I wont go into all of things ive done that had nothing to do with plugs or business at all, just love for the shows and the community that hangs out together.

And of course i took this personally, you tried to twist the whole reason i posted this. It was not a PR stunt, nor hypocritical of me. If i was wrong to do so, i apologize. Seemed like a "lets shit on his brave move and show the thread it was a pr stunt" sort of post to me, but i may be wrong. Believe it or not, if you were all business, i respect your views to feel i have not done the right thing. And if you dont like my segment on the show, i also respect that.

If you think i need to stop calling on mondays for the last few recaps, your gripe is with Ron and Fez personally. I assure you, it was not a business reason i was accepted. And if i listen to the show, prepare for my review, and they do NOT call me when the time comes, i will STILL love the show. It's all about being buddays, and you my friend should know this.

As ive stated earlier, Thanks for all of you who have been emailing me personally about the move i made for my business. And now, i will thanks those who have come PM me about support of my call ins too. Apparently many people dissagreed with you, but did not want to post.

I will do me, you do you!

God Bless,
MLC

[Mafialife Chris]

Uh, then what do you call being identified as "MafiaLifeChris"?

New listeners do NOT know that is based on a dot com website, The "Mafia life" can also be relating to ANYTHING pertaining to the Mob. I bet you this bullshit attempt at derailing a thread made more people aware of the affiliation to a dot com website. Most ppl just think im a "Fake mobster" with the name revolving the mob, unless they have been around a while. Thats not a plug. I made it my business NOT to plug, and i probably could have plenty of times. That is not what its about, sorry tenn, your wrong!

[Tenbatsuzen]

As ive stated earlier, Thanks for all of you who have been emailing me personally about the move i made for my business. And now, i will thanks those who have come PM me about support of my call ins too. Apparently many people dissagreed with you, but did not want to post.



Wow. How entirely passively aggressive.

[Tenbatsuzen]

New listeners do NOT know that is based on a dot com website, The "Mafia life" can also be relating to ANYTHING pertaining to the Mob. I bet you this bullshit attempt at derailing a thread made more people aware of the affiliation to a dot com website. Most ppl just think im a "Fake mobster" with the name revolving the mob, unless they have been around a while. Thats not a plug. I made it my business NOT to plug, and i probably could have plenty of times. That is not what its about, sorry tenn, your wrong!

Are you kidding me? When Ron and Fez first set up your reviews they talked about MafiaLife and what it was, and even encouraged Fez to play. In fact, there are always a few jokes about the game.

And since you have advertising on XM, people would know what MafiaLife is!

Therefore, if you appear as MafiaLifeChris, you're plugging your site. This is not very hard to understand.

I told you, if you want to appear, appear as Chris from Brooklyn. Otherwise, you're plugging your site and your move to pull advertising from XM is entirely false.

Quite honestly, if something happened with TGI Fridays or something like that, I would immediately change my name to either Matty from Jersey or Matty Tenbats. It's not that hard.

And who is trying to derail the thread? We're having a conversation where you tried to gain accolades for what you were doing from the community, I posted a few questions about how true your stance was about XM, and you took it very, very personally.

Remember Chris - I'm not the one who is namecalling. I'm just pointing out the holes in your logic, and you are the one who is completely overreacting. You want to call me a hater? Remember, I'm not the one who threatens people over a messageboard when they disagree with you.

[SinA]

Dont you just love it? Guy tries to help and winds up getting attacked for it. Its like being married to a psycho bitch.

No good deed goes unpunished, baby.

Are you saying that MLC is to rf.net what Paulo was to Gail?

[J.Clints]

MLC I may be the only one here but I agree with you 100%. What you did was great and I am glad you did it. and fuck the rest. I will be the newest member of ML.COM In the morning.

[Tenbatsuzen]

MLC I may be the only one here but I agree with you 100%. What you did was great and I am glad you did it. and fuck the rest. I will be the newest member of ML.COM In the morning.

No, no, he's got "hundreds and hundreds" of emails and PMs to support him!

[J.Clints]

No, no, he's got "hundreds and hundreds" of emails and PMs to support him!

Read my post I said here..................READ ALL OF IT

[TheMojoPin]

I'm still waiting for that membership.

[Don Stugots]

I'm still waiting for that membership.

me too.

[Tenbatsuzen]

When you get stuck at a phonebooth, do you yell out "TWO DAMAGE TWO DAMAGE!"

[Mafialife Chris]

Remember Chris - I'm not the one who is namecalling. I'm just pointing out the holes in your logic, and you are the one who is completely overreacting. You want to call me a hater? Remember, I'm not the one who threatens people over a messageboard when they disagree with you.

And you remember, THIS cancelation of my ad campaign had nothing to do with my Soprano's Review on Ron and Fez Show! Nor my personal relationship with them, and "they" know it, unlike you.
And with all due respect, perhaps you should also remember, people are entitled to mistakes. My tiny business does not have these advisors and team of experts to write these press releases, i do what i can. And that press release you got was my draft before i sent it to my partner to re-read, and fix the grammar, and send to whatever press release site he uses. thats why i dont handle that shit.
So fucking what? im not the most educated man in the world. As Ron would say, FUCK IT!
Lastly, i guess we may as remember 1 last thing. Yes, i did threaten you on a message board. Big fucking deal crybaby!
Im only a fake mobster from brooklyn. Have you ever heard them speak proper english?
Thats why i am the phoney mobster guy who mispells shit and gets his balls busted about my fake mafia game and "fake" threatens people on the internet, And your the asshole who tried to "show people up" or "point out flaws". We all have flaws, but we do not all point them all out to people, and claim its not personal!
To me, thats an ASSHOLE!
But you have that right to be one!
Maybe one day i'll have this big gaming company, for now itll be me and my partner handling 8k players and ALL the workload ourselves, using a tiny budget (way more then your 2500 claim) to advertise every 6-8 months because its all we can afford right now. And i am PROUD of my decision to stand with the P.A.C., I dont think it has ANYTHING to do with the "personal" reasons why i do a Sopranos Review. You clearly dissagree. Who cares what you think?

[Mafialife Chris]

I'm still waiting for that membership.

me too.

Send me an email guys for the free membership, or i sware your next on my internet threating list.
I am convinced tenn just wanted a spot on my signiture shitlist. lol

[Tenbatsuzen]

I am convinced tenn just wanted a spot on my signiture shitlist. lol

Actually that can be construed as harrassment which violates the rf.net TOS.

And you're confusing issues. The reason why I brought up your sopranos spots is because you are getting free advertising from it. So if you're pulling your paid spots, why aren't you pulling your free spots? That's the crux of the matter, which you still haven't answered yet.

Your defense is that you want to be a part of the show, which I say is fine, just use another name. Don't mention mafialife. Then I don't have a problem and you're not a hypocrite.

Remember, I'm not mocking your gig on the air. I just change the channel and come back five minutes later. I don't watch the Sopranos, I don't like you, so I have no reason to listen. But I don't bash what you do on the air. You do what you do, it is what it is.

That being said - all you have to do is not mention Mafialife while you're on with Ron and Fez on XM, and we don't have a problem. Yet you seem hellbent on turning this into World War III.

You claim I'm "Derailing", yet you're using misdirection and weak, passive-agressive defenses to try and get away from the initial problem I brought up.

So answer the question - are you gonna man up and not mention Mafialife during your removal of advertising on XM, or are you just going to continue yammering on like a simpleton? It's simple. You become Chris from Brooklyn or hell, even "M.L." Chris and we don't have a problem. Is it that hard to understand?

[Dan G]

I don't listen to O&A or post on STI, so I had no clue there was more meaning to MLC's name. I just assumed he was a fan of mafia movies and shows and used the name because of that.
If he did indeed cancel his XM subscription, then I don't agree that he should continue with his Soprano's updates. As much as I love R&F, his boycott should continue even at one shows expense.

[BoondockSaint]

I am going to cancel my XM subscription for 5 minutes every Monday.

[PapaBear]

Awesome video, Perry!

[HBox]

That is the dumbest fucking video I have ever seen in my life. To detail everything wrong with it would require a Yerdaddy post x10000000. All I'll say is that if you showed that video to someone with no knowledge of what is happening they'd have no fucking clue that the whole thing started because a radio show got suspended.

[Fat_Sunny]

To detail everything wrong with it would require a Yerdaddy post x10000000.

See MojoPin's Post On Oliver Stone.

[PapaBear]

I guess it's not so much the video that I like. It's the silly 80's hair band sound.

[HBox]

See MojoPin's Post On Oliver Stone.

Well I was going to be politely silent, but yeah.

[Marc with a c]

ronfez.net needs more press releases

[Tenbatsuzen]

Yerdaddy post x10000000.


Wouldn't that be Leo Tolstoy?

[HBox]

what a fucking genius.

who said this had anything to do with what is going on now with a fucking radio show?
Just wanted to throw something together with that song and tag it with the PAC site.

and your right. maybe they would check the website to find out what the fuck its all about.

Some people arent as stupid as you and dont need everything spelled out for them or dictated to them by a DJ.


try to look a litte bit pass the radio world for a few minutes.

The band is SCREAM from Northern VA with an 18 yr old Dave Grohl on drums.
Guitarist Franz Stah ( later w/ foo fighters )
from 1988.


BTW - good for Chris for doing his part to show XM how people feel about this.

Oh yeah, because the PAC was created totally independent of stuff happening with radio shows. Yeah, because in the real world normal people can't say what they want to or read books they want because of some insidious censorship.

If someone completely unaware of what's going on with O&A saw that video and actually got concerned enough to go to that web page they'd find an organization completely occupied with boycotting radio stations who fired or suspended radio jocks. And I'd bet most would feel mislead, to put it as politely as possible.

You really need to stop overstating your case. That goes for a lot of people. Civil discourse is not going to disappear no matter what happens with O&A, Imus or the Doghouse. Free speech isn't going anywhere. America is not headed for the shitter because of what's happening to radio shows. The First Amendment is not in tatters. The absolute worst case scenario is that O&A, the Doghouse and Imus stay off the air forever. And some of us have to look another way for entertainment. Ye gods.

Seriously. Some of what I am reading and seeing is an overreaction on par with the "outrage" that got Imus fired in the first place.

[HBox]

im not going to read all that crap. when did message board freaks become so important that they need to post a novel everytime they post.


frankly who gives as to shit WHY the PAC was formed?

Hmmm it's called PEOPLE AGAINST CENSORSHIP. the name alone MAY tip someone of as to WHY the PAC was created.

I'm not going to read all that. I have the attention span of a gnat.

[HBox]

Seriously. Some of what I am reading and seeing is an overreaction on par with the "outrage" that got Imus fired in the first place.[/color][/size]

reading and seeing.... but DOING nothing. typical american.

maybe it would have make ANOTHER video of people holding a sign or breaking a radio.
that would interest normal people into visiting a website.

whatever what do i care.

in fact - im for censorship now.

PFC -

people for censorship.

ya we win[/quote]

I'm under no obligation to do anything. I never listened to Imus or the Doghouse so I don't give two shits whether they are on the radio or not. O&A got suspended for not listening to their bosses. And supposedly they'll be back. If they get fired then I'll think about doing something.

But stop acting like this is some major crisis. It isn't. Censorship happens all the fucking time in private industry. There are things even David Chase can't put into the Sopranos or Damon Lindelhoff can't put into Lost. And we survived without pissing our pants worrying whether the First Amendment was in ruins. (I'm sure your attention span has run out long ago.)

Because what this really is about is speech without consequences. I personally wouldn't work to get someone fired if they said something that offended me. But other people don't feel that way. And that's their fucking right, as much as it might piss us all off. And if a radio company doesn't want to be associated with something a radio show says that's their right, as stupid as their choices often are.

But this is NOT some grand crisis that stands to ruin everything you hold dear. Free speech is alive and well and will be no matter what CBS and XM decide. And if there is some REAL censorship going on today, the governmental kind, the kind that actually warrants concern, it has nothing to do with Imus, O&A or the Doghouse.

[Mafialife Chris]

Actually that can be construed as harrassment which violates the rf.net TOS.

And you're confusing issues. The reason why I brought up your sopranos spots is because you are getting free advertising from it. So if you're pulling your paid spots, why aren't you pulling your free spots? That's the crux of the matter, which you still haven't answered yet.

Your defense is that you want to be a part of the show, which I say is fine, just use another name. Don't mention mafialife. Then I don't have a problem and you're not a hypocrite.

Remember, I'm not mocking your gig on the air. I just change the channel and come back five minutes later. I don't watch the Sopranos, I don't like you, so I have no reason to listen. But I don't bash what you do on the air. You do what you do, it is what it is.

That being said - all you have to do is not mention Mafialife while you're on with Ron and Fez on XM, and we don't have a problem. Yet you seem hellbent on turning this into World War III.

You claim I'm "Derailing", yet you're using misdirection and weak, passive-agressive defenses to try and get away from the initial problem I brought up.

So answer the question - are you gonna man up and not mention Mafialife during your removal of advertising on XM, or are you just going to continue yammering on like a simpleton? It's simple. You become Chris from Brooklyn or hell, even "M.L." Chris and we don't have a problem. Is it that hard to understand?


I did answer you, i dissagreed!
I do not feel that saying Mafialife Chris is an ad to anyone who i havent already networked to.
The Sopranos Segment has nothing to do with plugs.
Sorry, your going to have to agree to dissagree.
Sorry for namecalling, didnt know you had such a weak skin!
One day i may call in, and Ron may call me ML Chris. When he does i'll continue as normal. He is who makes that choice!
In fact for years i called in as Chris from Brooklyn. I was loving the show then, i'll love it afterwards!

-Mafialife Chris

[Mafialife Chris]

I don't listen to O&A or post on STI, so I had no clue there was more meaning to MLC's name. I just assumed he was a fan of mafia movies and shows and used the name because of that.
If he did indeed cancel his XM subscription, then I don't agree that he should continue with his Soprano's updates. As much as I love R&F, his boycott should continue even at one shows expense.

Thanks for at least proving my point about the mafia name, but let me explain 1 thing. i am not boycotting XM, i am mearly not doing the ads that i was supposed to do, in hopes to teach them a lesson to put the bbboys back on the air. "if" they didnt want ppl in the Big Ass Room on Paltalk listening free, they would not be talking about it daily with the stuff thats on the girls cams. The fact remains that my "business" can cancel ads for the company that employs Ron and Fez, while my "person" Loves the show, and participates! BTW, i appreciate your views, and tenn's too. I was pointing ou the fact that he would ride my post, regardless. he is an ass, and dislikes me!

[Mafialife Chris]

btw -

it's a shame we cant all get this worked up over president bush slaughtering american children every day. he's killed more americans than bin ladin ever did.
and he's a hick. right there should be grounds for dismisal and when I say dismisal i mean.... fuck... I forgot what amerika i live in now... better hush up.

body parts being blown apart on children ..

did anyone forget there is a war going on?

maybe you are right X BOX.

amerika really does need to get their priorities together.

btw cofffee peoople should be jailed and burned.

done.

Perry,

Your derailing skills are unreal. Remind me to buy you a few drinks on the house, or a few lines of coke! next time we meet!

MLC

[Snacks]

Chris, let it be known that I never personally attacked you in your thread. Quite honestly, I think you're a brilliant marketer because you've taken ever opportunity you've had to plug your site. When you knock up Frenchy, I'm sure you'll see a MafiaLife temporary tattoo on her belly.

I didn't flame you, I even gave you an opportunity to be a part of your show without promoting your site. Like it or not, your screenname is promotion for your site.

However, you've called me a "dick", "jealous cunt", "scumbag", that "nobody likes me", among other things. I think it's YOU who needs to separate the business from the personal, as I've been NOTHING but business in this thread and YOU my friend has taken it very, very personal.

I also find it interesting that you're basically regurgitating everything that O&A has said about the Wee for a Wii firing, the Imus firing and the JV and Elvis firing about suspensions, and accusing me of being an XM shill. Here's the difference; XM was supporting O&A before they went and started talking too much about the issue when they were told not to.

Also, here's the difference between the four incidents - Wee for a Wii someone DIED, Imus story was WAAY too hot to go away and I think CBS overreacted, and JV and Elvis had no ratings and were difficult to work with.

O&A are the top show on XM, but XM needs the heat to die down. But O&A talked about it too much.

THAT'S what the suspension was for, NOT the original bit! People are getting confused between the two issues. Do you honestly think if XM was going to "cave" to pressure that they would have told Sharpton to go shit in a pot? The story is basically dead except for PAC making some waves. There's no outcry like the Imus story. The media isn't pounding it. It's all but gone away.

That's why I think everyone is overreacting. If they were fired from XM, then I could see the outcry, but at this point, if you wait it out, everything will be OK. The heat will be off and everyone will be happy.

But back to you - quit engaging in personal attacks because it just makes you look stupid. I've been very even handed in dealing with you, when you've basically used nearly all of your 150 posts here to promote either MafiaLife or Spread the Iris.

I mean, seriously. Does anybody here know anything about you other than the fact you're on Spread the Iris, you run MafiaLife, and you fuck frenchy?

I'm glad you're cancelling the advertising. I'm sure XM will miss that $2500.

I was going to respnd to his stupid response to my post but I think you covered almost everything. 2 points. 1) MafialifChris, your such a big fan of Ron and Fez and frequent the board often? Well you must not have much to say b/c you have 150 posts in 4 years. The only thing I have ever seen in here from you is attacks on people that dont like your segment about the Sopranos (b/c you dont understand the show) and to promote poker and other mafialife events. 2) If your not trying to get free ads or free publicity by calling up the show or being on messgae boards, then why is your name mafialifechris? Why not just Chris or something else. Some people on here have boards names that are their .coms. They do this so people go to their sites.

Im not twisting your words. Answer me why would you even want donations. For what? I understand people have sent you numerous emails b/c your such a stand up guy for pulling ads off xm, yeahhh go pat yourself on the back. But seriously, what people would say to you "hey I dont play your game but want to support you can I give you money?" Doesnt happen, your a business not a charity. If there is no way to support you other then signing up for your site or buying a shirt then dont come here and tell people they can just make donations. Seems a little tacky to me.

By the way I dont have a problem with the name mafialifechris. You should use it to promote yourself and your company. The fact that you wont admit or cant understand that using that as your name is for free promotion when you call the show.

[lleeder]

Am I the only person that sees an "Old friends" segment on board gossip in this threads future?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Am I the only person that sees an "Old friends" segment on board gossip in this threads future?

That would be difficult, considering Chris and I were never friends.

[Fezticle98]

Am I the only person that sees an "Old friends" segment on board gossip in this threads future?

Ron and Lleeder were once such great old friends. They used to talk daily on the phone, like old friends are accustomed to doing. One day, Lleeder went to a board event and got plastered, leading Ron to accuse him of being a "non." Now Lleeder is banned from calling into the show. For shame, they are no longer...old friends.

[mikeyboy]

WTF? I just read all the way through this thread. As I've posted a number of times in various threads lately is that, despite the passion that people have related to these issues, everyone needs to be respectful of those they don't agree with. I know some people feel that they have the answers, but there really isn't a unified playbook as to what everyone is doing. It comes down to personal choice. Everyone acts as they feel is most appropriate for them. I've caught flak because I've decided to maintain my XM subscriptions. That's what I've determined to be the right decision for me. Matty, Chris has decided what is best for him. Obviously you don't agree, but a) that doesn't make you right, and b) that doesn't give you license to be an ass about it. Chris, personal attacks are not appropriate on this board, so that needs to stop. Everyone else, because the decision of whether to act and how to act is a personal choice. You really do need to be respectful of each other. We are all on the same side as R&F fans.

[ChrisTheCop]

I'm not affiliated with Mafialife.com, nor have I cancelled my subscription to xm.
I am upset at what has happened to o and a, and fear that it could happen to r and f, but for the grace of God.
I thank Chris, and other advertisers, who feel they no longer wish to financially support a corporation that has caused me to be upset and fearful.

I only read 2 long ass pages of this thread, but I think I got the idea.
If Pepsi pulled their advertising from XM, could they not still be a sponsor of the R and F Christmas party? (just a hypothetical...afterall, we dont have Christmas parties here).

[MikeB]

Do me a favor, and stop trying to twist my words. It is uncool.
http://ganjataz.com/general-bollocks/images/by-GT/forum-shitz/pot-kettle-black.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

(just a hypothetical...afterall, we dont have Christmas parties here).

That is a wonderful callback, and it makes me proud to know you personally.

[HBox]

I only read 2 long ass pages of this thread, but I think I got the idea.
If Pepsi pulled their advertising from XM, could they not still be a sponsor of the R and F Christmas party? (just a hypothetical...afterall, we dont have Christmas parties here).

They COULD, but in this particular case it wouldn't make sense. Usually when advertisers pull ads they are in response to some offensive comments, like with Imus. So advertisers would pull ads as a message to a particular show. They could continue supporting other shows on that station without seeming hypocritical in their message.

But in this case he's pulling ads from XM to send a message to their entire company. And R&F are part of that company. Unless the Christmas Party was a completely FreeFm thing. Because paying to sponsor an event with XM signage all over the place while also supposedly boycotting them doesn't make sense.

[Bulldogcakes]

The band is SCREAM from Northern VA with an 18 yr old Dave Grohl on drums.
Guitarist Franz Stah ( later w/ foo fighters )
from 1988.



Oh yeah, Dave Grohl of the Foo Fighters. I think he was in another band in between Scream and the Foo Fighters, but I cant remember they're name.. . Hmmm. . . . Nope. Drawing a blank.

Ass.







OK, I'm just trying to turn this entire thread into a nit-picking fiesta.

[angrymissy]

I don't agree with canceling XM and then listening to the show illegally (through paltalk or torrents). You are in effect, stealing from the Ron and Fez show.

[J.Clints]

I don't agree with canceling XM and then listening to the show illegally (through paltalk or torrents). You are in effect, stealing from the Ron and Fez show.

How is it Illegal? It is there and everyone knows. Ron and Fez know and I am sure XM knows. So tell me why its Illegal.

[angrymissy]

How is it Illegal? It is there and everyone knows. Ron and Fez know and I am sure XM knows. So tell me why its Illegal.

How is it illegal? It's the same thing as stealing cable. Now, I don't think it makes a huge impact that people would listen to the feed. But if you get tens of thousands of people canceling because they will just listen to the feed, it will, eventually cause a negative impact on the future of the show. XM is not going to keep them on for shits and giggles if they do not think any paying subscribers are listening.

[lleeder]

I totally agree that it is stealing. XM allows it as a courtesy to the show. If people cancel and say I'll listen to the feed for free then XM will take action.

[J.Clints]

How is it illegal? It's the same thing as stealing cable. Now, I don't think it makes a huge impact that people would listen to the feed. But if you get tens of thousands of people canceling because they will just listen to the feed, it will, eventually cause a negative impact on the future of the show. XM is not going to keep them on for shits and giggles if they do not think any paying subscribers are listening.

I totally agree that it is stealing. XM allows it as a courtesy to the show. If people cancel and say I'll listen to the feed for free then XM will take action.

I completely disagree! But I respect your opinion.

[TheMojoPin]

I completely disagree! But I respect your opinion.

It doesn't matter if you disagree. It's something that I guarantee you that XM would take legal action against.

[J.Clints]

It doesn't matter if you disagree. It's something that I guarentee you that XM would take legal action against.


Spell guarantee right and I might listen....

[TheMojoPin]

Spell guarantee right and I might listen....

Or you just might post your bajillionth O&A thread in the last 2 days.

[deeznutts]

Spell guarantee right and I might listen....

the majority of this board can guarantee that you're an ass.

[J.Clints]

Or you just might post your bajillionth O&A thread in the last 2 days.
I Didn't ask you to agree with me so shut the fuck up.

[angrymissy]

I Didn't ask you to agree with me so shut the fuck up.

That kind of shit doesn't fly on this board. I suggest you don't speak to people that way, especially if you are trying to get them to see your point of view.

You might fare better on one of the many O&A themed boards.

[TheMojoPin]

I Didn't ask you to agree with me so shut the fuck up.

It's not an issue of agreeing or not...you're posting seemingly every single mention O&A gets anywhere lately. How hard would it be for you to start an "O&A in the news" thread just to keep the clutter down? We've always tried to streamline threads here.

[moochcassidy]

How is it illegal? It's the same thing as stealing cable. Now, I don't think it makes a huge impact that people would listen to the feed. But if you get tens of thousands of people canceling because they will just listen to the feed, it will, eventually cause a negative impact on the future of the show. XM is not going to keep them on for shits and giggles if they do not think any paying subscribers are listening.


i dont see it as stealing from R&F at all. i see it as a temporary gesture of solidarity with O&A to get the message across that XM cant treat 202 talent like this. if the channel is to survive it will only be if o&a come back. O&A will only come back if XM gets scared of losing long-term revenue.

i dont understand why people arent cancelling temporarily, just as a gesture, you get

a month of saved sub cash (plus im sure theyll throw us a few free months when we resubscribe in a few weeks)

youre actively doing something to protect the type of radio we all love, and

there are other sites there to facilitate the boycott.


feels the right move for me to help the buddays in the long run (this is all coming from someone who only listens online so i understand most peoples hesitancy)

i have a feeling yous are gonna be pissed when they officially fire O&A and R&F/202 gets fucked over.

IT WILL BE TOO LATE BY THEN TO CANCEL.

1-800-967-2346 (1-800-XM-RADIO)
1-800-998-7900 (direct to a live person)

[TheMojoPin]

i dont see it as stealing from R&F at all. i see it as a temporary gesture of solidarity with O&A to get the message across that XM cant treat 202 talent like this. if the channel is to survive it will only be if o&a come back. O&A will only come back if XM gets scared of losing long-term revenue.

i dont understand why people arent cancelling temporarily, just as a gesture, you get

a month of saved sub cash

youre actively doing something to protect the type of radio we all love, and

there are other sites there to faciliate the boycott.


feels the right move for me to help the buddays in the long run (this is all coming from someone who only listens online so i understand most peoples hesitancy)

i have a feeling yous are gonna be pissed when they officially fire O&A and R&F/202 gets fucked over.

IT WILL BE TOO LATE BY THEN TO CANCEL.

1-800-967-2346 (1-800-XM-RADIO)
1-800-998-7900 (direct to a live person)

Please don't do the pseduo-pressure to cancel thing outside of the cancellation threads.

[reillyluck]

I Didn't ask you to agree with me so shut the fuck up.

That kind of shit doesn't fly on this board. I suggest you don't speak to people that way, especially if you are trying to get them to see your point of view.

You might fare better on one of the many O&A themed boards.

Very True. State your point, no need to talk to people that way. the board isnt going to tolerate this type of shit.

[J.Clints]

It's not an issue of agreeing or not...you're posting seemingly every single mention O&A gets anywhere lately. How hard would it be for you to start an "O&A in the news" thread just to keep the clutter down? We've always tried to streamline threads here.

I will post were and when I want.....

[epo]

the majority of this board can guarantee that you're an ass.

Why can't we all get along?

[lleeder]

Very True. State your point, no need to talk to people that way. the board isnt going to tolerate this type of shit.

Thats true I agree with the cunt.

[reillyluck]

Why can't we all get along?

he's been warned too.

[reillyluck]

Thats true I agree with the cunt.

why i aughta..... :lol:

[BoondockSaint]

I would like to announce that I have pulled all my future ads from Broad Minded.

[J.Clints]

That kind of shit doesn't fly on this board. I suggest you don't speak to people that way, especially if you are trying to get them to see your point of view.

You might fare better on one of the many O&A themed boards.

Very True. State your point, no need to talk to people that way. the board isnt going to tolerate this type of shit.

To you Reilly I am sorry. To the other people who want to post there openions and dont want others too they....Well I will keep it nice.

[angrymissy]

To you Reilly I am sorry. To the other people who want to post there openions and dont want others too they....Well I will keep it nice.

You have every right to post your opinion, but not to tell members of this board to shut the fuck up.

[TheMojoPin]

I will post were and when I want.....

No, you won't. That's why we have mods and admins.

[J.Clints]

No, you won't. That's why we have mods and admins.

Yes sir I will Post were and when as long As I keep it "nice" and in the rules I will. I do not need your permission to post.

[lleeder]

You have every right to post your opinion, but not to tell members of this board to shut the fuck up.

I agree if you're going to curse at boardmembers at least have the decencey to do it at Bar 9 when your blacked out.

[Marc with a c]

I agree if you're going to curse at boardmembers at least have the decencey to do it at Bar 9 when your blacked out.

you want some water?

[J.Clints]

I agree if you're going to curse at boardmembers at least have the decencey to do it at Bar 9 when your blacked out.

:laugh: :thumbup:

[moochcassidy]

Please don't do the pseduo-pressure to cancel thing outside of the cancellation threads.

i was giving my opinion in reference to a question raised.

this thread is about a sponsor cancelling his support for XM and subsequently people are talking about cancelling their XM subscription.

my post was on topic

ive been careful at all times to constantly mention this is 'my opinion' or 'felt good for me' and 'i understand people hesitancy' on this issue. i think some people are on the fence and i have every right to try and sway them over to the cause if i do it in a respectful and civilised way..and i'll continue to do so when i please (within the rules of the board obviously).

i think you'll find that open discourse on this matter is a little more important than 'clutter' as you put it.

plus, you spelt pseudo-pressure wrong and i'm almost certain you used misused here.

thanks for yor concern

p.s cancel your xm...please

[reillyluck]

I will post were and when I want.....

No, you won't. That's why we have mods and admins.

i just want to present a reminder that Mojo is a Forum Moderator. he has knows what he's talking about when it comes to the board rules.

enough of the back and forth stuff. i really dont want to have to lock yet another thread for something that can be prevented.

[lleeder]

you want some water?

Stop fucking with me Mark.

[moochcassidy]

i just want to present a reminder that Mojo is a Forum Moderator. he has knows what he's talking about when it comes to the board rules.

enough of the back and forth stuff. i really dont want to have to lock yet another thread for something that can be prevented.

i beg to differ reilly but i think mojo has a bee in his bonnet about something and is throwing his imaginary weight around a bit here.

again..mine 'umble opinion

as mikey said, there are people coming from different perspectives here..i have no time for the guy doing the personal attacks..but i think we should all be allowed our say.

this IS a thread about cancelling support for XM after all.

[J.Clints]

i beg to differ reilly but i think mojo has a bee in his bonnet about something and is throwing his imaginary weight around a bit here.

again..mine 'umble opinoin

I do agree with Mooch here.............

[TheMojoPin]

i beg to differ reilly but i think mojo has a bee in his bonnet about something and is throwing his imaginary weight around a bit here.

again..mine 'umble opinoin

The "bee" is simply repeatedly posting multiple threads that ultimately differ little from each other. I also think spreading the cancellation issue around the board is asking for trouble. A lot of people are going to get defensive over it when people are essentially yelling at them to cancel something they don't want to get rid of. It simply doesn't need to be showing up in a bunch of threads. I'm not throwing anything around, imaginary or otherwise...just calling it like I see it. As a mod, all I can do is make a judgement call on board activity, and that's all I'm doing here. I don't see it being that big a deal asking someone to cut down what are essentially duplicate threads...we do that all the time...or trying to keep an issue that gets people on either stirred up negatively kept out of too many threads.

[reillyluck]

i beg to differ reilly but i think mojo has a bee in his bonnet about something and is throwing his imaginary weight around a bit here.

again..mine 'umble opinoin

agree to disagree then...lol

and dont think i phorgot about my goat!!!!

[J.Clints]

the majority of this board can guarantee that you're an ass.

Yes I am thanks for noticing though.

[J.Clints]

just calling it like I see it.

and so are we.

[BoondockSaint]

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/2006/06/Roadrunner.gif

[TheMojoPin]

and so are we.

The difference is, you're ultimately trying to argue with a staff member. If that's me being a dick about it, fine, but thats how we've always run the board here.

[Fezticle98]

I would like to announce that I have pulled all my future ads from Broad Minded.

I have also withdrawn from Broadminded.

[moochcassidy]

The "bee" is simply repeatedly posting multiple threads that ultimately differ little from each other. I also think spreading the cancellation issue around the board is asking for trouble. A lot of people are going to get defensive over it when people are essentially yelling at them to cancel something they don't want to get rid of. It simply doesn't need to be showing up in a bunch of threads. I'm not throwing anything around, imaginary or otherwise...just calling it like I see it.

and thats YOUR opinion..as valid as anyone else..including mine.

im not shouting at anyone, ive been pretty passive about it cause its a personal choice and i know most rf.net people arent behind it at this point..i hear ya on the new BIG sig pic message tho... might be a bit much, ill tone that down a notch.

but i happen to think a boycott is a good idea..FOR ME, im going to state that if/when i think its relevant to whats being talked about.

my advice, take the 'bee' of ("repeatedly posting multiple threads that ultimately differ little from each other") and address your indignation to whomever relevant cause it dont have nuthin to do with me mate. (ehh and werent you the one who told someone to "start a new thread" of 'O&A in the news' a few posts ago?)

thats the way i see it folks :smoke:

[IamPixie]

Yes sir I will Post were and when as long As I keep it "nice" and in the rules I will. I do not need your permission to post.

it's where

[J.Clints]

it's where

I deserve that Pixie Thanks

[IamPixie]

I deserve that Pixie Thanks

couldn't help myself :innocent:

[J.Clints]

couldn't help myself :innocent:

I would have done the same:devil2:

[AKA]

I agree with Missy and the others who see the hypocracy of cancelling something and then sneaking the free listens as stealing and counter to helping R+F's cause.

My patience and understanding, thanks to the lecturing, has run very, very thin. I am getting close to being very empathertic for the wrong reasons, as I see more and more people whose actions threaten to take MY favorite radio show off the air, much as they crusade against those that took THEIR favorite radio show off the air.

The first ammendment has been a pet issue of mine since I was a teenager - PMRC, 2 Live Crew, Cop Killer, FCC, etc. To piggyback on what HBox said, I'd love to see PAC expand their website to provide historical information on the slippery slope - to broaden to other voices they can champion - to link to groups that have been fighting this for years (there's a brilliant one devoted to the comic book industry, for example).

More than ever I do think that cancelling hurts R&F more than it helps O&A - I still don't blame fans of O&A (or even R&F too) for dropping them - I would do the same for R&F. They need to do what they feel they need to do.

THERE IS NO OTHER RADIO SHOW THAT IS AS GOOD TO THEIR FANS AS RON AND FEZ - None. One show I can think of fears their fans; another show takes them for granted; and a local favorite actually hates their fans. Why would I, as a fan of R&F, drop XM and then argue that I can still support them by listening online for free???

[J.Clints]

THERE IS NO OTHER RADIO SHOW THAT IS AS GOOD TO THEIR FANS AS RON AND FEZ - None. One show I can think of fears their fans; another show takes them for granted; and a local favorite actually hates their fans. Why would I, as a fan of R&F, drop XM and then argue that I can still support them by listening online for free???

this is one point I agree with 100%. But I do respect your opinion. You have yours I have mine. But you did make great points.

[Marc with a c]

this is one point I agree with 100%. But I do respect your opinion. You have yours I have mine. But you did make great points.

did you just wake up?

[J.Clints]

did you just wake up?

hahahaahah nonono just a little A.D.D. kicking in.

[Bob Impact]

Stop fucking with me Mark.

That's Marc with A C.

[Snacks]

The "bee" is simply repeatedly posting multiple threads that ultimately differ little from each other. I also think spreading the cancellation issue around the board is asking for trouble. A lot of people are going to get defensive over it when people are essentially yelling at them to cancel something they don't want to get rid of. It simply doesn't need to be showing up in a bunch of threads. I'm not throwing anything around, imaginary or otherwise...just calling it like I see it. As a mod, all I can do is make a judgement call on board activity, and that's all I'm doing here. I don't see it being that big a deal asking someone to cut down what are essentially duplicate threads...we do that all the time...or trying to keep an issue that gets people on either stirred up negatively kept out of too many threads.

I agree with mojo on this.

This board is so overloaded with O&A threads that its turning into an O&A board. Its only 1 person who keeps starting all these threads/topics that have to do with O&A. I understand some of you love O&A but to expect every ron fez fan to cancell and or care is getting out of control. They didnt get fired, they got suspeneded. Not for what freedom of speech but for not listening to the company to just shut the fuck up about the subject and let it go away. I dont think they should have been suspended but I dont care b/c anyone else that doesnt listen to the suits at their company will get fired for the same shit.

They will be back in a few weeks, until then go for a walk, watch tv, get a life, actually do your job at work rather then listening to O&A. This could be a lke a vacation to reality. You have them on free fm so your only losing 2 hours.

When one of you gets fired at work for something call O&A and see what they do to help you.

Until then long live Ron and Fez!

[lleeder]

That's Marc with A C.

Fuck that shit...I know its really Mark with a K.

[J.Clints]

I agree with mojo on this.

This board is so overloaded with O&A threads that its turning into an O&A board. Its only 1 person who keeps starting all these threads/topics that have to do with O&A. I understand some of you love O&A but to expect every ron fez fan to cancell and or care is getting out of control. They didnt get fired, they got suspeneded. Not for what freedom of speech but for not listening to the company to just shut the fuck up about the subject and let it go away. I dont think they should have been suspended but I dont care b/c anyone else that doesnt listen to the suits at their company will get fired for the same shit.

They will be back in a few weeks, until then go for a walk, watch tv, get a life, actually do your job at work rather then listening to O&A. This could be a lke a vacation to reality. You have them on free fm so your only losing 2 hours.

When one of you gets fired at work for something call O&A and see what they do to help you.

Until then long live Ron and Fez!

1) Not only one person is posting about Opie and Anthony.
2) I dont have them on Free FM
3) I agree I hope ron and fez live for a long time.

[johnniewalker]

I agree with mojo on this.

This board is so overloaded with O&A threads that its turning into an O&A board. Its only 1 person who keeps starting all these threads/topics that have to do with O&A. I understand some of you love O&A but to expect every ron fez fan to cancell and or care is getting out of control. They didnt get fired, they got suspeneded. Not for what freedom of speech but for not listening to the company to just shut the fuck up about the subject and let it go away. I dont think they should have been suspended but I dont care b/c anyone else that doesnt listen to the suits at their company will get fired for the same shit.

They will be back in a few weeks, until then go for a walk, watch tv, get a life, actually do your job at work rather then listening to O&A. This could be a lke a vacation to reality. You have them on free fm so your only losing 2 hours.

When one of you gets fired at work for something call O&A and see what they do to help you.

Until then long live Ron and Fez!
I'm not trying to be mean, but these are the type of posts that starts shit. Just leave it alone, you don't agree with us so be it. It's not a big deal.

[Tully Blanchard]

I fail to see why Mr. Cllints would be nasty Mrs. Missy. Tsk tsk tsk, Mr. Clints, I think it best if you offered a heart felt "I am sorry" and might offer the advice to you that in the future you be polite to the people here, more so to the lovely, lovely ladies of RonFez.net. What goes on in that home of yours? Also, Mr. Mooch, may I have a goat. Mr. LLeeder, I believe you are correct.

[J.Clints]

I fail to see why Mr. Cllints would be nasty Mrs. Missy. Tsk tsk tsk, Mr. Clints, I think it best if you offered a heart felt "I am sorry" and might offer the advice to you that in the future you be polite to the people here, more so to the lovely, lovely ladies of RonFez.net. What goes on in that home of yours?

It was not to Missy and she knows that. It was mojo I was fighting with. And dont worry about my home.

[Tully Blanchard]

It was not to Missy and she knows that. It was mojo I was fighting with. And dont worry about my home.

Well, then I retract my words but I will insert Mr. Pin into that statement. He is by far one of the smartest gentlemen here and much respected by most. His affection for Communism aside of course. Battling him would equate to jousting with a windmill.

I am not worried about your home, I am sure Mrs. Clints is quite the homemaker, no disrespect to her at all.

[Bossanova]

It was not to Missy and she knows that. It was mojo I was fighting with. And dont worry about my home.

For starters, his home is awesome. Secondly, why do you inject yourself into everything john does. Enough with your 7th grade butinsky ways Tully

[Don Stugots]

That's Marc with A C.

Fuck that shit...I know its really Mark with a K.

oh hell yeah it is.


What went on in this thread during my show? you people should have been listening to me rather than arguing with yourselves. yous missed a great "open letter to opie" read by the Dice man. Shame Shame Shame.

[Bulldogcakes]

I just want to say that Boonie has been on fire lately, and each of his posts in this thread have been pure gold.

[J.Clints]

oh hell yeah it is.


What went on in this thread during my show? you people should have been listening to me rather than arguing with yourselves. yous missed a great "open letter to opie" read by the Dice man. Shame Shame Shame.

I was listening! The second best Dice ever.:thumbup:

[Don Stugots]

BDC, i agree and thanks Clint.

[BoondockSaint]

I'll be honest, I hired Funkman as a writer.

[torker]

I just want to say that Boonie has been on fire lately, and each of his posts in this thread have been pure gold.

I was thinking the same thing.

[Mafialife Chris]

I don't agree with canceling XM and then listening to the show illegally (through paltalk or torrents). You are in effect, stealing from the Ron and Fez show.

Why are both rooms plugged often on the show?

[epo]

As of May 17 2007, we pulled our future advertising spots from XM Radio, The Virus (Channel 202). We have done this in response to XM Radio's censoring of the Opie and Anthony Show by suspending them for 30 days. XM Radio is catering to special interest groups, and in our opinion has lied to the public. They promised uncesored humor, and we will not tollerate this censoring over what we feel was a humorous joke. We would like to thank www.peopleagainstcensorship.com for all the efforts to get Opie and Anthony back on XM, and for means to show XM they cannot lie to the public and make money! I have contacted other XM Radio advertisers and have asked them to pull their spots as well as cancelled my own radio subs.



Chris Chiarmonte
President, Aifam-Life, Inc
Owner, www.mafialife.com

PS: Of course i still listen to Ron and Fez LIVE in the Big Ass Room on Paltalk.com for the meantime.

Have you guys officially released this yet?

[epo]

Why are both rooms plugged often on the show?

I would guess that so far it's something that XM allows to exist for the sake of goodwill and as a means to promote growth. However piss off the suits at XM enough and they could have issues.

[angrymissy]

Why are both rooms plugged often on the show?

I would guess that so far it's something that XM allows to exist for the sake of goodwill and as a means to promote growth. However piss off the suits at XM enough and they could have issues.

What he said. Think about it, I'd say 80% of the people in the Paltalk rooms already had XM subs. If people cancel en masse, and just decide to listen to the stream instead, you can bet that XM is going to crack down, hard. They're not going to let people basically "steal" from them.

It is the same thing as stealing cable. You're stealing a subscription based service. Do you think Ron and Fez want to lose all their subs and just have people listen on Paltalk? That would be pretty much a podcast. Also, I've never really heard them "plug" the rooms, per se (I could be wrong), they do talk about Paltalk quite a bit, but I don't think I've heard them plugging the actual rooms.

[moochcassidy]

fair point about PT. but hopefully this is only short term- until this thing gets resolved...

or until the boys get fired and the PAC's focus turns to trying to salvage the ron and fez show.

to be honest there are a few other underground streams and i reckon the pests will always find a way round it if XM suits get involved.

[Tenbatsuzen]

One other thing...

The beauty of XM is that if on the very, very remote chance that O&A are canned, it's NOT like WNEW where Ron and Fez will be fired soon after. XM would either leave them on 202 as R&F all the time, OR would probably move them to another channel.

Just my opinion.

[JPMNICK]

One other thing...

The beauty of XM is that if on the very, very remote chance that O&A are canned, it's NOT like WNEW where Ron and Fez will be fired soon after. XM would either leave them on 202 as R&F all the time, OR would probably move them to another channel.

Just my opinion.


i agree with that, R&F were booted before because of a formatt change. there is a def a spot on XM for R&F. the only thing that might change if O&A were gone would be moving them to another NYC studio and shutting down the current one.

[Tenbatsuzen]

i agree with that, R&F were booted before because of a formatt change. there is a def a spot on XM for R&F. the only thing that might change if O&A were gone would be moving them to another NYC studio and shutting down the current one.

In fact, I'd even go as far as saying that if O&A were gone, R&F would be the premiere talk show on XM over Bob Edwards.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Also, I've never really heard them "plug" the rooms, per se (I could be wrong), they do talk about Paltalk quite a bit, but I don't think I've heard them plugging the actual rooms.


Dave is usually the one who is plugging the specific rooms, but it gets no where near the amount of plugs that the boards get. I would say that the specific rooms probably get one plug a day, if that, if they come up in conversation.

[JPMNICK]

In fact, I'd even go as far as saying that if O&A were gone, R&F would be the premiere talk show on XM over Bob Edwards.

again, I would agree. I think if O&A are gone, XM magically manages to convince all parties involved to syndicate the FreeFM show, and maybe give the XM show 4 hours per day. but in terms of talent, and I am sure i am slightly bias, but R&F are the best entertainment on XM.

[MadMatt]

There will always be a way to listen illegally - harken back to the days of "Syndication Underground." I would assume that will kick up again and be even MORE popular.

XM is not doing what the listeners want, so why suck on XM's hind tit? Listen however and whenever you want IMO.

[SinA]

i agree with that, R&F were booted before because of a formatt change. there is a def a spot on XM for R&F. the only thing that might change if O&A were gone would be moving them to another NYC studio and shutting down the current one.

Or if we're lucky, move them back to DC. it's closer to Northern Virginia, so I'm sure Fez would be happy.

[JPMNICK]

Or if we're lucky, move them back to DC. it's closer to Northern Virginia, so I'm sure Fez would be happy.

not going to happen, they have a FreeFM show up here that is NYC based and they do a lot of weekend events with it.

[sailor]

What he said. Think about it, I'd say 80% of the people in the Paltalk rooms already had XM subs. If people cancel en masse, and just decide to listen to the stream instead, you can bet that XM is going to crack down, hard. They're not going to let people basically "steal" from them.

It is the same thing as stealing cable. You're stealing a subscription based service. Do you think Ron and Fez want to lose all their subs and just have people listen on Paltalk? That would be pretty much a podcast. Also, I've never really heard them "plug" the rooms, per se (I could be wrong), they do talk about Paltalk quite a bit, but I don't think I've heard them plugging the actual rooms.

yeah, i was always bothered that o&a plugged paltalk and those folks got the show i was paying for for free. then after their comedy tour last year, i signed up for the free week trial and realized they don't get to hear the callers (i think this is correct, i know there's some part of the audio that doesn't come thru) and don't know how they can listen to the show like this.

[HBox]

There will always be a way to listen illegally - harken back to the days of "Syndication Underground." I would assume that will kick up again and be even MORE popular.

XM is not doing what the listeners want, so why suck on XM's hind tit? Listen however and whenever you want IMO.

Stop trying to justify theft. Syndication underground was done because there were places where people who wanted to listen couldn't because of the show not being available in their area. That ta;l disappeared once they were syndicated and was never mentioned on XM. With XM you can listen where ever you are. it's available to anyone who wants it.

What you are describing is pretending to take a stand when in reality you don't have the strength to follow through.

[mikeyboy]

Dave is usually the one who is plugging the specific rooms, but it gets no where near the amount of plugs that the boards get. I would say that the specific rooms probably get one plug a day, if that, if they come up in conversation.

The thing is that the rooms do occasionally get plugged as a way to chat with fans during the show, kind of like the listening threads, but not as an alternate means to hear the show. Ron & Fez have never promoted the fact that the show is streamed theough the room. That's only been mentioned on the air one or two times when a caller promotes one of the rooms.

[JPMNICK]

no sounds clips or callers voices come across on paltalk

[celery]

no sounds clips or callers voices come across on paltalk

Wow - how could anyone listen to either 202 show this way? (particularly R&F who constantly go to the phones)

[mikeyboy]

no sounds clips or callers voices come across on paltalk

I think that would only be with O&A's show because the audio is piped directly from the studio (you can only hear callers and instant replay with headphones while in the studio). Ron & Fez does not broadcast on Paltalk from the studio, so I assume that Ron & Fez's show is only piped into a PalTalk room via someone piping the XM online stream into the room (complete with callers and IR).

[JPMNICK]

I think that would only be with O&A's show because the audio is piped directly from the studio (you can only hear callers and instant replay with headphones while in the studio). Ron & Fez does not broadcast on Paltalk from the studio, so I assume that Ron & Fez's show is only piped into a PalTalk room via someone piping the XM online stream into the room (complete with callers and IR).

oh ok that makes sense, but there has to be a decent delay on that

[SatCam]

queef

[torker]

queef
You have an uncanny way of putting things in perspective.

[J.Clints]

queef

You have an uncanny way of putting things in perspective.

:lol:

[MadMatt]

Stop trying to justify theft. Syndication underground was done because there were places where people who wanted to listen couldn't because of the show not being available in their area. That ta;l disappeared once they were syndicated and was never mentioned on XM. With XM you can listen where ever you are. it's available to anyone who wants it.

What you are describing is pretending to take a stand when in reality you don't have the strength to follow through.

I'm not trying to justify theft, I am condoning it.

And I am not pretending to take a stand at all. I still pay for XM and still listen to it. However, I don't really care how anybody else gets the content. It serves XM right to loose cash if they are going to pull the kind of shit they have been pulling. If they hadn't let me down so badly I would stick up for them. Now I don't care.

[SatCam]

:lol:

you're on my shitlist johnny

[J.Clints]

you're on my shitlist johnny

And I care why. I am aways on someones.

[HBox]

I'm not trying to justify theft, I am condoning it.

And I am not pretending to take a stand at all. I still pay for XM and still listen to it. However, I don't really care how anybody else gets the content. It serves XM right to loose cash if they are going to pull the kind of shit they have been pulling. If they hadn't let me down so badly I would stick up for them. Now I don't care.

Whatever. It doesn't matter. XM is giving service away free for the month to anyone who asks, sometimes even more. There is simply no excuse to canceling your subscription and stealing the service other than to make some non-existent, meangingless point in your own head. Especially since you know just about everybody will be back if O&A get back on the air.

[MadMatt]

Whatever. It doesn't matter. XM is giving service away free for the month to anyone who asks, sometimes even more. There is simply no excuse to canceling your subscription and stealing the service other than to make some non-existent, meangingless point in your own head. Especially since you know just about everybody will be back if O&A get back on the air.

I must disagree. It screws XM twice - once by cancelling your service and again by "stealing" the service. They loose the income derived from your subscription and loose more because you now listen for free somewhere else.

I'm not saying it is right, but it can be effective.

Plus, I am still paying for my subscription so quit yelling at me. I just don't care what anybody else does because XM needs to get the message one way or another.

[HBox]

I must disagree. It screws XM twice - once by cancelling your service and again by "stealing" the service. They loose the income derived from your subscription and loose more because you now listen for free somewhere else.

I'm not saying it is right, but it can be effective.

Plus, I am still paying for my subscription so quit yelling at me. I just don't care what anybody else does because XM needs to get the message one way or another.

It doesn't affect XM one bit by stealing something you have no intention to pay for anyway. All it does is give them a legal standing to sue you if they wish.

And I'm not yelling at you. NOW I AM YELLING AT YOU.

[Tenbatsuzen]

NOW I AM YELLING AT YOU.


http://server3.uploadit.org/files/BraidS-Brick.jpg

LOUD NOISES!!!

[Snacks]

1) Not only one person is posting about Opie and Anthony.
2) I dont have them on Free FM
3) I agree I hope ron and fez live for a long time.

1) you are the one starting all the posts about O&A, for support or to sign this or to but a movie with norton etc. Everything is O&A. I didnt say others werent responding

2) www.923freefm.com

3) agreed

[J.Clints]

1) you are the one starting all the posts about O&A, for support or to sign this or to but a movie with norton etc. Everything is O&A. I didnt say others werent responding

2) www.923freefm.com

3) agreed

no I am not the only one. Know your facts. 2) Its a book. Look at it.
Also I dont need your permission to post about O and A

[lleeder]

1) you are the one starting all the posts about O&A, for support or to sign this or to but a movie with norton etc. Everything is O&A. I didnt say others werent responding

2) www.923freefm.com

3) agreed

You can't drive a tractor and go on the internet at the same time.

[J.Clints]

You can't drive a tractor and go on the internet at the same time.

:clap:

[sailor]

no I am not the only one. Know your facts. 2) Its a book. Look at it.
Also I dont need your permission to post about O and A

a book?

[mikeyboy]

no I am not the only one. Know your facts. 2) Its a book. Look at it.
Also I dont need your permission to post about O and A

What part of "have respect for others, even if they don't agree with you" did you not understand? I understand your passion, but your responses to people today have been completely inappropriate.

Also, the people who have commented that you are starting too many related O&A threads have completely valid points.

[TheMojoPin]

Shut your fucking face, Mikeyboy.

[Don Stugots]

Shut your phucking phace, Mikeyboy.

phixed it.

[Gvac]

"The entire moon and sky is reflected in a single drop of dew" - Dogen

[Bob Impact]

"The entire moon and sky is reflected in a single drop of dew" - Dogen
If the river was whiskey and I was a duck, I'd dive to the bottom and I'd never come up.

[Tenbatsuzen]

a book?

Yes, it's sheets of paper with words on it, binded together. But that's not important right now.

[moochcassidy]

Whatever. It doesn't matter. XM is giving service away free for the month to anyone who asks, sometimes even more. There is simply no excuse to canceling your subscription and stealing the service other than to make some non-existent, meangingless point in your own head. Especially since you know just about everybody will be back if O&A get back on the air.

its one thing to disagree, but whats with the attacks on people who see this as the right thing to do. what does THAT achieve?

you dont get it..fine.

suspension of an account is one thing, cancellation and smashing units is a political statement to the media which is the best weapon a popular pressure group like the PAC has.

but taking this as some sort of attack against ron and fez is to misunderstand the aims of the movement.

im not trying to be Albert Fucking Schweitzer here, if im 'stealing' R&F by boycotting XM in protest at their treatment of 202 talent ..sobeit. if it means that im actually doing something proactive to support R&F in the long term...thats the move for me.

this isnt some "non-existent, meangingless point in your own head" based on some lofty ideals or youthful exuberance, its a tangible, self-serving, short-term, flex of the only economic muscle the individual consumer has in a case of pressurising a subscription based service.

the PAC is literally a text book example of a 'single issue popular pressure group', media pressure and economic boycott are the primary weapons in this...they played a blinder so far.

[Snacks]

its one thing to disagree, but whats with the attacks on people who see this as the right thing to do. what does THAT achieve?

you dont get it..fine.

suspension of an account is one thing, cancellation and smashing units is a political statement to the media which is the best weapon a popular pressure group like the PAC has.

but taking this as some sort of attack against ron and fez is to misunderstand the aims of the movement.

im not trying to be Albert Fucking Schweitzer here, if im 'stealing' R&F by boycotting XM in protest at their treatment of 202 talent ..sobeit. if it means that im actually doing something proactive to support R&F in the long term...thats the move for me.

this isnt some "non-existent, meangingless point in your own head" based on some lofty ideals or youthful exuberance, its a tangible, self-serving, short-term, flex of the only economic muscle the individual consumer has in a case of pressurising a subscription based service.

the PAC is literally a text book example of a 'single issue popular pressure group', media pressure and economic boycott are the primary weapons in this...they played a blinder so far.

I think some of you may not get hbox, tenbats and others point that if your cancelling your xm and still listening to the show via another outlet then your not really protesting anything because you are still using and wanting their product.

Put it this way. Lets say you tell your wife your going on a diet and that your no longer eating fast food. But when shes not around you eat mcdonalds, burger king and all the other shit. Just b/c your wife didnt see you doesnt mean you lost weight. Your still going to be fat and after a month you gained weight she will no your a big liar.

If your really protesting against something no matter what it is you dont use their services. If your protesting gas companies then you dont drive, if your protesting tobacco then you dont smoke. If your protesting XM you shouldnt listen no matter how you cant live without talk radio (oh the agony). Dont you think people at XM know all these cancelled memberships will be back as soon as O&A come back. So in the long run all you did was waste your time, and XM's. Maybe you get a free month out of it or more, woooo hoooo. You will probably have to pay an activation fee and there maybe be a contract when you resign up. And for those who think there wont be a contract, dont be surprised. XM is not stupid they will not let this happen again with people cancelling and giving away free months and or giving you a prorated refunds. They are smart they WILL do what cell phone companies are doing. You will still be able to get a onth to month rate or a cheaper full year up front rate, but if you cancel within a year there is a cancellation fee. I'm not saying this is def going to happen but I think and heard it will.

[SinA]

i've never heard a mafialife ad on xm before. maybe i should issue a press release that says that i, SinA, will also not be advertising with XM in the future. so what if i wasn't going to? now i can get some spin on NOT advertising

ps. it's clear that xm told ron and fez not to talk about the biggest story affecting their lives right now. how does that make you pheel?

[moochcassidy]

I think some of you may not get hbox, tenbats and others point that if your cancelling your xm and still listening to the show via another outlet then your not really protesting anything because you are still using and wanting their product.

Put it this way. Lets say you tell your wife your going on a diet and that your no longer eating fast food. But when shes not around you eat mcdonalds, burger king and all the other shit. Just b/c your wife didnt see you doesnt mean you lost weight. Your still going to be fat and after a month you gained weight she will no your a big liar.

If your really protesting against something no matter what it is you dont use their services. If your protesting gas companies then you dont drive, if your protesting tobacco then you dont smoke. If your protesting XM you shouldnt listen no matter how you cant live without talk radio (oh the agony).

Dont you think people at XM know all these cancelled memberships will be back as soon as O&A come back. So in the long run all you did was waste your time, and XM's. Maybe you get a free month out of it or more, woooo hoooo. You will probably have to pay an activation fee and there maybe be a contract when you resign up. And for those who think there wont be a contract, dont be surprised. XM is not stupid they will not let this happen again with people cancelling and giving away free months and or giving you a prorated refunds. They are smart they WILL do what cell phone companies are doing. You will still be able to get a onth to month rate or a cheaper full year up front rate, but if you cancel within a year there is a cancellation fee. I'm not saying this is def going to happen but I think and heard it will.

that's an over-simplified analysis of what's happening here.

using/wanting the service is not the issue. Your gas, tobacco, fastfood analogies are unsound here because, unlike those products consumed in individual units at various competing outlets, the nature of the subscription based service means that they are dependent on maintaining long term contracts with customers to trade with them alone.

the beauty of this case is, uniquely in a boycott situation, there is an alternative source of a similar 'inferior' product

we can make our public show of dissatisfaction through cancellation and take our custom elsewhere...PT is not free, they are sponsors of ron and fez on FreeFM.

the protest is the act of cancellation not the consumption of the product

about wasting a few minutes or getting a free month sub..i'm willing to lose a few quid on reactivation (there is no fee for internet reconnection and my on-line cancellation was a matter of two clicks)..so your inaccurate there in my case.

where's the evidence for your assertion that they will introduce some sort of new terms of contract for returning customers and overturn current policy of offering free months as an incentive to halt the exodus? im of the opinion that they are going to bend over backward to get us back when we end the boycott. (as someone willing to lose out financially on this statement, this is irrelevant to me... however i am interested what's giving you this impression)

snacks where do you get this "go outside and read a book" attitude? you're obviously a fan of talk radio too.

[Don Stugots]

i've never heard a mafialife ad on xm before. maybe i should issue a press release that says that i, SinA, will also not be advertising with XM in the future. so what if i wasn't going to? now i can get some spin on NOT advertising

ps. it's clear that xm told ron and fez not to talk about the biggest story affecting their lives right now. how does that make you pheel?

relieved that for a short time of the day we can all take a break from the anger that we all feel about this and enjoy the buddays together.

[sailor]

it's more like protesting a supermarket and then robbing them of groceries.

as in my example from the third post of this thread, using the product illegally is not supporting xm. that's like saying in my supermarket analogy that you're supporting the store by stealing eggs. "hey, maaaan, they still need our eggs!! we've got them!!"

[moochcassidy]

as in my example from the third post of this thread, using the product illegally is not supporting xm. that's like saying in my supermarket analogy that you're supporting the store by stealing eggs. "hey, maaaan, they still need our eggs!! we've got them!!"

are we quoting ourselves now?:innocent:

if so i agree with me

[SinA]

relieved that for a short time of the day we can all take a break from the anger that we all feel about this and enjoy the buddays together.

just asking.
me too, i guess.

another question: when O&A come back on june 16 or whatever, do they have to move forward and never talk about this again and never say anything negative about their bosses?

[angrymissy]

I could give a flying fuck if it hurts/doesn't hurt XM.

I'm worried that the illegal streams will hurt RON AND FEZ. Spin it however you want, XM is a business. If there are less subs/less legal listeners to the Ron and Fez show, why should they bother keeping it on?

[Fat_Sunny]

are we quoting ourselves now?

Wind Yer Neck In Wee Lad!

[prothunderball]

anybody else think Ron read this thread, with the way he plugged the hell out of Mafialife.com on the show today?

[Don Stugots]

anybody else think Ron read this thread, with the way he plugged the hell out of Mafialife.com on the show today?

i thought the same thing.

[mikeyboy]

anybody else think Ron read this thread, with the way he plugged the hell out of Mafialife.com on the show today?

Those were my exact thoughts.

[Tenbatsuzen]

well, we already know ron hates me

[Mafialife Chris]

anybody else think Ron read this thread, with the way he plugged the hell out of Mafialife.com on the show today?

"If" he did, i guess we can say he felt i should be doing the segment. Love that man!!
No homo of course!

[Tenbatsuzen]

"If" he did, i guess we can say he felt i should be doing the segment. Love that man!!
No homo of course!

for the record, I never once said you shouldn't do your segment.

[Mafialife Chris]

for the record, I never once said you shouldn't do your segment.
Look,

My only point about this, is simply that my segment was not spawned with a business mind. It was a personal relationship i have with the show. You said because of my ad cancelations, that i should change my whole call in ID. I dissagreed, and i would "guess" Ron did as well.
I hope you enjoyed the segment. I messed up the details on the kill/beating that T did, but we all make mistakes. I thought that guy died and missed the details abuot when T mentioned how he "couldve " killed him and held back. My bad.

[lleeder]

Look,

My only point about this, is simply that my segment was not spawned with a business mind. It was a personal relationship i have with the show. You said because of my ad cancelations, that i should change my whole call in ID. I dissagreed, and i would "guess" Ron did as well.
I hope you enjoyed the segment. I messed up the details on the kill/beating that T did, but we all make mistakes. I thought that guy died and missed the details abuot when T mentioned how he "couldve " killed him and held back. My bad.

I wish I could have heard the segment. My radio was so fucked up I missed it.

[JPMNICK]

well, we already know ron hates me

or he loves sheepy

[Don Stugots]

until i saw the guys teeth come out of his mouth, i thought he was dead too. then i thought, if he was dead, it would have been more blood and less teeth.

[johnniewalker]

I wish I could have heard the segment. My radio was so fucked up I missed it.

Yeah that went on and they did a segment about that fake dorothy crosley thread and how you were fawning all over her. Also, you've been banned from the XM part of the show now.

[lleeder]

Yeah that went on and they did a segment about that fake dorothy crosley thread and how you were fawning all over her. You've been banned from the XM part of the show now.

I was the only one that said she was a fake from the start. Thats Don Rube-gots that was fawning.

[Don Stugots]

I was the only one that said she was a fake from the start. Thats Don Rube-gots that was fawning.

is the chick in the picture not hot?

[lleeder]

is the chick in the picture not hot?

Yes but you didn't stick to your guns today on the show. Through the in and out signal I heard you say that it was fake.

[Don Stugots]

i did say that the girl in the pic wasnt the person posting today. i also said, here today that i would love to be proved wrong and for my twin Brother to be proved right. the fact that the poster was real or not didnt come up till today. in all honesty, didnt think about that really.

[Tenbatsuzen]

or he loves sheepy

could be a little bit of both

[torker]

is the chick in the picture not hot?

She's sullied.

[mikeyboy]

i did say that the girl in the pic wasnt the person posting today. i also said, here today that i would love to be proved wrong and for my twin Brother to be proved right. the fact that the poster was real or not didnt come up till today. in all honesty, didnt think about that really.

I can't believe you didn't stand by your brother, Pitzy. Reef would never fuck over SR71 like that.

[lleeder]

i did say that the girl in the pic wasnt the person posting today. i also said, here today that i would love to be proved wrong and for my twin Brother to be proved right. the fact that the poster was real or not didnt come up till today. in all honesty, didnt think about that really.

I just noticed you don't capitalize.

[Don Stugots]

haha, now that you mention it, i should have said yes just so that pitzy wasnt left out in the cold. i was still sleepy when i called. sorry pitz.

[johnniewalker]

I just noticed you don't capitalize.

hehe...

[lleeder]

haha, now that you mention it, i should have said yes just so that pitzy wasnt left out in the cold. i was still sleepy when i called. sorry pitz.

You could of dropped a Thereisnoradio.com from 5-7 while you were at it.

[Don Stugots]

haha, i always get too nervous to plug my show. i always think Ron is going to get pissed about that. remember me being in studio to plug it and i sat there for an hour and all i said was "hi"?

[MadMatt]

that's an over-simplified analysis of what's happening here.

using/wanting the service is not the issue. Your gas, tobacco, fastfood analogies are unsound here because, unlike those products consumed in individual units at various competing outlets, the nature of the subscription based service means that they are dependent on maintaining long term contracts with customers to trade with them alone.

the beauty of this case is, uniquely in a boycott situation, there is an alternative source of a similar 'inferior' product

we can make our public show of dissatisfaction through cancellation and take our custom elsewhere...PT is not free, they are sponsors of ron and fez on FreeFM.

the protest is the act of cancellation not the consumption of the product

about wasting a few minutes or getting a free month sub..i'm willing to lose a few quid on reactivation (there is no fee for internet reconnection and my on-line cancellation was a matter of two clicks)..so your inaccurate there in my case.

where's the evidence for your assertion that they will introduce some sort of new terms of contract for returning customers and overturn current policy of offering free months as an incentive to halt the exodus? im of the opinion that they are going to bend over backward to get us back when we end the boycott. (as someone willing to lose out financially on this statement, this is irrelevant to me... however i am interested what's giving you this impression)

snacks where do you get this "go outside and read a book" attitude? you're obviously a fan of talk radio too.

Mooch - you are a gentleman and a scholar. You have been able to put into words what my addled pate could not. Your thoughts on the matter are very similar to my own, but my eloquence on the matter has been sorely lacking.

Thank you Sir!

[reillyluck]

haha, i always get too nervous to plug my show. i always think Ron is going to get pissed about that. remember me being in studio to plug it and i sat there for an hour and all i said was "hi"?

is that what you said all i heard was "djdkfur"

[Don Stugots]

i gulp more times in Ron's presence then Earl does lying, thanks for reminding me of how my nephew Matty last week on my show is how i was in studio.

[J.Clints]

that's an over-simplified analysis of what's happening here.

using/wanting the service is not the issue. Your gas, tobacco, fastfood analogies are unsound here because, unlike those products consumed in individual units at various competing outlets, the nature of the subscription based service means that they are dependent on maintaining long term contracts with customers to trade with them alone.

the beauty of this case is, uniquely in a boycott situation, there is an alternative source of a similar 'inferior' product

we can make our public show of dissatisfaction through cancellation and take our custom elsewhere...PT is not free, they are sponsors of ron and fez on FreeFM.

the protest is the act of cancellation not the consumption of the product

about wasting a few minutes or getting a free month sub..i'm willing to lose a few quid on reactivation (there is no fee for internet reconnection and my on-line cancellation was a matter of two clicks)..so your inaccurate there in my case.

where's the evidence for your assertion that they will introduce some sort of new terms of contract for returning customers and overturn current policy of offering free months as an incentive to halt the exodus? im of the opinion that they are going to bend over backward to get us back when we end the boycott. (as someone willing to lose out financially on this statement, this is irrelevant to me... however i am interested what's giving you this impression)

snacks where do you get this "go outside and read a book" attitude? you're obviously a fan of talk radio too.

Mooch - you are a gentleman and a scholar. You have been able to put into words what my addled pate could not. Your thoughts on the matter are very similar to my own, but my eloquence on the matter has been sorely lacking.

Thank you Sir!

Matt Is exactly right here. I wish I could put the words down like Mooch. I just get pissed and go off like a stupid Idiot and then get lots of heat and then get mad and then get madder...









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