de la hoya-mayweather

[LimeJohnny]

Anyone out there getting the de la hoya mayweather fight this weekend? Any predictions? I think De La Hoya will pull it out with a decision victory. At the very least, I hope it is an entertaining fight that can renew some interest in the great sport of boxing.

[waltermitty]

I just saw the ad for this fight tonight at my local bar....
I will be there watching... I don't follow it much, but I have always been a fan of Oscar...
So my uneducated pick goes to De La Hoya..........

[TheGameHHH]

ive been looking forward to this fight for months......saturday is going to be a crazy day/night.

my prediction, mayweather is way too quick for de la hoya.......mayweather will win this fight, it will be a classic.

[FUNKMAN]

ive been looking forward to this fight for months......saturday is going to be a crazy day/night.

my prediction, mayweather is way too quick for de la hoya.......mayweather will win this fight, it will be a classic.

I feel the same way. Mayweather has great speed(fastest hands I've seen) and he has great skill to go with it.

[Snacks]

I cant wait for this fight. I have been watching 24/7 on hbo. Its like a 4 week long promo that shows the fighters in almost current days for a 30 min reality show. Delahoya looks better then he has well maybe ever and mayweather looks just nasty. Im torn here I would like to see Delahoya pull this out and win a monster last fight. But I do believe mayweather may be to fast.

Watching the show a few things that may be a factor and favor delahoya

1) mayweather's father (delahoyas former trainer) has been at odds with his son over the tv show and him saying his loyalty is to his uncle (who is his trainer and his fathers brother, they dont get along or even talk) This issue seems to have bothered everyone during this fight.

2) Even though mayweather has been traing like an animal, he has been distracted at times, hanging out with his boys, gambling everyday on basketball and other shit. (he lives in vegas and bets at the sports book everyday)

3) I dont think he respects delahoya and may be taking him a little less serious then he should.

This (hopefully) will be a classic fight.

[Fezticle98]

I say Mayweather by decision. As most have mentioned, he is too fast for De La Hoya, but not powerful enough to knock him out.

Seeing that HBO Special and interviews of Mayweather just made me think of Carnies and Rubes. Floyd is playing the part of the bad guy, trying to annoy people so much that they shell out the money for the fight. I do enjoy his act and it should be a great fight, but I think I'll have to pass on shelling out the dough for it.

On a side note, did anyone see the Diaz - Freitas bout on Saturday? Pretty exciting fight. Diaz kept constant pressure on Freitas until he quit. I'll definitely keep an eye on Juan Diaz from now on.

[nate1000]

By the book, Mayweather should crush De la hoya- he's just way too fast. But, De la hoya does look solid- I bet he's got the harder punch and when he smells blood De la hoya can throw his hands with the best of them.

Picking up Freddy Roach was a masterful move by the De la hoya camp. Also, training with Shane Mosley can only help Oscar's chances.

I'd love for Oscar to lay out the pretty boy, but I don't see it happening. Should be a fight for the ages.

Let's get ready to rumble!!!!

[PhishHead]

Mayweather is great and fast and technical but there is one thing that is being overlooked hugely.

Mayweather is a natural 130 pounder, most of his fights have been around that weight, yes he has won at the weights of 135, 140, 145, 147 but he also faced people who did not have the skills of De Lay Hoya or the power.

Now most of De La Hoyas fights have been at the 140+ range. That is alot more natural weight and power. De La Hoya may not seem like a power puncher but he does have 30 kos out of 38 wins. He knocked out Mayorga who was only else knocked out by Trinidad (granted mayorga is a dumb fighter), he knocked out Vargas who was knocked out by Trinidad as well, and then eventually knocked out twice by Mosley, but 4 years after Oscar faced him, so boxers lose alot in 4 years, and he completed demolished Gatti to the point that the corner had to throw in the towel.

Granted Mayweather will probably be to fast for him, but Oscar could hurt him if he lands a few combos. Mayweathers jaw has never been truly tested

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I may watch it, if it is playing at the Bar I am at

it is Cinco De Mayo, a National Drinking Holiday

:king:

[BoondockSaint]

I can't stand either of them but I think Mayweather wins. He's so damn fast I don't think De la Hoya will be able to keep him off of him.

[BoondockSaint]

Anybody else watching?

[cougarjake13]

Anybody else watching?

i want to watch it but i dont want to shell out the money and the fight winds up sucking

[Kevin]

i want to watch it but i dont want to shell out the money and the fight winds up sucking

Yea 54 bucks.. thats alot o sheckels...

[cougarjake13]

Yea 54 bucks.. thats alot o sheckels...

yep and ive been burned by boxing fights enough in my life

[BoondockSaint]

As Ronnie B. would say, "Spend some of that communion money."

[cougarjake13]

As Ronnie B. would say, "Spend some of that communion money."

i aint got none of that

[BoondockSaint]

Worth it.

[PapaBear]

Worth it.
Was it tonight? How'd it go?

[Kevin]

Mayweather split Decision..

[PapaBear]

I hate pay per view. I miss the old days, when you could see Ali or Leonard for free. I hope it's not long before they show the replay on cable.

[Kevin]

Boony, how funny was it watching Mayweather come out in Mexican colors?

[Fezticle98]

Just as i predicted.

It really could have gone either way. Both fighters fought the fight they were supposed to. Oscar tried to make it a brawl, Mayweather stayed on the outside and used his speed. Good fight. I was in a random bar, and EVERYONE was watching it. Good for boxing, I hope.

[BoondockSaint]

Boony, how funny was it watching Mayweather come out in Mexican colors?

HE also had a big sombraro.

[PapaBear]

This was a Cinco de Mayonnaise thing, I presume?

[Mike Teacher]

I hate pay per view. I miss the old days, when you could see Ali or Leonard for free. I hope it's not long before they show the replay on cable.

Weren't many of Ali's biggest fights on Closed-Circuit TV; essentially an early form of pay per view?

[PapaBear]

I remember watching a couple as a kid. They were on network. It might have been delayed stuff. I'm not sure

[TheGameHHH]

it went exactly as i thought it would go. but i dont think the fight could have gone either way, the 3rd and 8th round were close calls, with most judges giving it to mayweather. but even if oscar won those rounds i would have had it scored 114-114. mayweather did exactly what i thought he would do which was use his jabs and his speed to beat oscar. i thought oscar came out with some better defense then i thought he would have. to the casual boxing fan this probably wasn't what they were looking for in terms of boxing, but i def. enjoyed it.

[sailor]

it went exactly as i thought it would go. but i dont think the fight could have gone either way, the 3rd and 8th round were close calls, with most judges giving it to mayweather. but even if oscar won those rounds i would have had it scored 114-114. mayweather did exactly what i thought he would do which was use his jabs and his speed to beat oscar. i thought oscar came out with some better defense then i thought he would have. to the casual boxing fan this probably wasn't what they were looking for in terms of boxing, but i def. enjoyed it.

split decision? doesn't that sort of imply it could have gone either way?

[TheGameHHH]

split decision? doesn't that sort of imply it could have gone either way?

no, because i felt that mayweather did exactly what he had to do to beat de la hoya. hence i dont think it could have gone either way. i never said the judges were wrong in their scoring, my words were, 'i dont think it could have gone either way'

[sailor]

no, because i felt that mayweather did exactly what he had to do to beat de la hoya. hence i dont think it could have gone either way. i never said the judges were wrong in their scoring, my words were, 'i dont think it could have gone either way'

you're hurting me.

[Fezticle98]

IMO, Mayweather was the superior boxer, but De La Hoya was a better fighter. I gained a lot of respect for De La Hoya tonight. He fought about the best fight he could've and showed a lot of growth as a boxer.

For what it's worth, did Mayweather back up his smack talk?

[TheGameHHH]

IMO, Mayweather was the superior boxer, but De La Hoya was a better fighter. I gained a lot of respect for De La Hoya tonight. He fought about the best fight he could've and showed a lot of growth as a boxer.

For what it's worth, did Mayweather back up his smack talk?

not at all......thats what bothers me about mayweather. he claims that he's the best pound for pound of all time yet he hasn't fought that many talented boxers nor does he really have power. all he relies on are his jabs and his speed. mayweather said tonight he was going to massacre oscar, it was far from that.

[Snacks]

I watched the fight and think it could have gone either way. The close rounds they were giving them to Mayweather. It should have been a draw but if De La Hoya won I wouldnt have been surprised. During the fight Larry "Drunk" Merchant said "how can a guy be considered pound for pound the best fighter when all he does in throw 1 punch and run? He doesnt throw a combo he cant be considered great when your running" I loved that line and he was right. I always thought Mayweather was the new Roy Jones but this is the first time he fought a great fighter and he didnt impress me. Yes hes fast as shit but 1 punch and run to me may be a smart way to win but it seems a little punkish. Even Mayweathers father said that De La Hoya should have won b/c he was more active. If Oscar wasnt going after Floyd no one would have thrown a punch.

It was a pretty decent fight, not great. I was hoping for a knock out or atleast a knock down. But when your a runner, your a runner. I will say this Mayweather is a great fighter but hes not pund for pound the greatest. You need to be fast and have some power and fight toe to toe, IMO. What Floyd did to Gatti looked amazing, tonight he looked like a track star.

[lleeder]

I didn't watch this but doesn't making it a split decision just set up the next greatest fight of all time.

[Bulldogcakes]

not at all......thats what bothers me about mayweather. he claims that he's the best pound for pound of all time yet he hasn't fought that many talented boxers nor does he really have power. all he relies on are his jabs and his speed. mayweather said tonight he was going to massacre oscar, it was far from that.

Bert Sugar was on the FAN yesterday and said that the best athletes don't choose Boxing anymore. You can make more $ in the NFL, Basketball or Baseball. He said the best heavyweight in the world is probably playing linebacker for the Baltimore Ravens (Ray Lewis).

BTW-Good move scoring along. Very often you think a fight is rigged, because the guy you're rooting for loses. But if you sit down, score each round and try to be fair, you usually find that your results are similar to the judges.

Usually. Sometimes one fighter gets to pick all the judges and the scorecards are a joke.

[JPMNICK]

Bert Sugar was on the FAN yesterday and said that the best athletes don't choose Boxing anymore. You can make more $ in the NFL, Basketball or Baseball. He said the best heavyweight in the world is probably playing linebacker for the Baltimore Ravens (Ray Lewis).

BTW-Good move scoring along. Very often you think a fight is rigged, because the guy you're rooting for loses. But if you sit down, score each round and try to be fair, you usually find that your results are similar to the judges.

Usually. Sometimes one fighter gets to pick all the judges and the scorecards are a joke.

I heard that as well, and I agreed. Why would someone get their face beat in for prob. no money in the long run, when they can play football, go to college for free, and then possibly go to the NFL have a longer career and make more money. And be famous.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

38-5 for De La Hoya

More Like the Bronze Boy

Losing 3 out of 5

Thank God he is Marketable


We dont want him becoming the Washington Generals of the Boxing Circuit

:king:

[sailor]

I always thought Mayweather was the new Roy Jones but this is the first time he fought a great fighter and he didnt impress me.

miss young roy jones jr.

BTW-Good move scoring along. Very often you think a fight is rigged, because the guy you're rooting for loses. But if you sit down, score each round and try to be fair, you usually find that your results are similar to the judges.

whenever i watrch a big fight (and it's been a long while sadly) i'll score myself. usually onother of my friends would score as well and we'd compare cards after. definitely adds to the enjoyment.

[mildly amusing]

This is why boxing doesn't draw like it used to...Hearns/Haggler this was not...yes, Mayweather is a good technical defensive fighter, but it's not fun to watch...if De la Hoya didn't push the action there wouldn't have been a fight at all...it should take more than that to be a champion...

[GonzoStyle]

Mayweather is by far the best fighter in the sport today and possibly the best fighter in the last 20 years, better than even prime Jones, because unlike jones he has actually faced top tier opposition and has yet to even be slightly stunned let alone tested by anyone.

But for all of that, he just doesnt have the appeal of the great fighters, he's not verbally exciting like a hopkins, jones or ali. He's not flashy or exciting to watch like leonard was or jones. Also says a lot of stupid shit, like calling his HBO contract "slave wages", yea pal, 6 million a fight has my soul crying for you. Mainly he is a victim of his own greatness, he hasnt been in THE fight yet, the fight we'll all remember him for, the fight where the drama was set and he went above and beyond and battled to win the fight of his life, or the fight we wasnt supposed to win, like Hopkins beating Trinidad. Ali had it more than once, he had it in his very first title fight with Sonny Liston and then he had it several more times. Mayweather has beaten some great fighters and has looked masterful doing so but he was supposed to win all those fights, the closest fight he had to being tested was the two fights with Jose Luis Castillo but that's about it.

This fight with delahoya was ok but I had it a draw, I also gave floyd round 12 and apparently 2 of the 3 judges gave Oscar round 12, so if the 3rd judge gave oscar the 12th round as well, it woulda been a draw.

The fight was close only because yet again, Oscar faded in the last 3 rounds. Floyd did a good job technically and threw more punches than oscar, oscar picked his spots and threw the harder punches. Overall I wouldnt wanna see the fight again, if it happens fine, if it doesnt I couldnt care less.

I will say to the guy who said Oscar is the bronze boy, you can hate on Oscar for a lot of things but you cant say the guy hasnt been consistently the most exciting fighter of the last 10 years. He has never ducked a single fighter and has always taken on big fight after big fight. Seriously look at his record, he's had a bit over 40 fights and more than 70% of those fighters have been current or former champions, thats is beyond a ridiculous ratio even in this congested title era. The 5 losses he does have, you can only really call the Hopkins fight his only real loss, but he was never gonna beat arguably the best middleweight since Marvin Hagler, that was the equivalent of expecting Jones to Beat Lennox Lewis. The trinidad fight, the mayweather fight and both Mosley fights were decision losses based on the fact that Oscar faded in the late rounds, it was more Oscar beating himself than being beaten by the man across the ring.

[Johnny Manf]

i had about 10 people over so we all chipped in about 5 bucks so it wasnt too expensive to see a fight where nothing huge happens. i wanted to see a big punch that makes someone stagger or a knockdown. after the fight it didnt look like either guy was even just in a fight. i wanted to see some busted up faces.

oh well, it was something to do for the night.

oh and i heard someone call in R&F about comcast blacking out the screen during the end of first fight and it never coming back. mine did that too.
the HD HBO channel for Comcast Gloucester County, NJ.
i tried calling and calling and couldnt get through because it must have happened to so many people. so we ordered the standard version one and it worked fine. i called comcast the next day to make sure i didnt get charged twice and they said i was fine.

[mildly amusing]

Mayweather is by far the best fighter in the sport today and possibly the best fighter in the last 20 years, better than even prime Jones, because unlike jones he has actually faced top tier opposition and has yet to even be slightly stunned let alone tested by anyone.

I'm gonna have to disagree...i realize schedules don't always allow for the best fights, but he never fought Acelino Freitas, Joel Casamayor, Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosely...Arturo Gatti (no matter how popular he is) is just not top tier competition...and i'd say Mayweather was more than tested in his first fight with Castillo...

[TheGameHHH]

I'm gonna have to disagree...i realize schedules don't always allow for the best fights, but he never fought Acelino Freitas, Joel Casamayor, Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosely...Arturo Gatti (no matter how popular he is) is just not top tier competition...and i'd say Mayweather was more than tested in his first fight with Castillo...

Gatti is not top tier in my opinion either, he's a slugger with very weak hands. mayweather would work him......one man Mayweather would not work, and no doubt wouldnt fight because he is scared, is Paul Williams.

[GonzoStyle]

Of course he could have fought more guys but his record is still pretty impressive, more impressive than Jones whose entire career much like Tysons was built off a single big name win and then destroying a lot of mediorcore and laughable opponents. For Tyson it was Michael Spinks and for Jones it was James Toney.

Mayweather has beaten guys like, Genaro Hernandez, Demacrus Corley, Angel Manfredy, Emanuel Burton, Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo (twice), Arturo Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir.

And now of course you add Oscar Delahoya to that list and thats pretty impressive for a kid barely 30 years old.

[PhishHead]

Gatti is not top tier in my opinion either, he's a slugger with very weak hands. mayweather would work him......one man Mayweather would not work, and no doubt wouldnt fight because he is scared, is Paul Williams.

I know we both have talked about Williams in another thread.

Williams is good, but I will not say he is great until he starts fighting better opponents, obviously its hard to when every single boxer in your class ducks you. We shall see how he handles Margarito. Yea he is 6'1 and an 82 inch reach which is incredible for that weight class, but has he ever truly been tested? He faced Sharmba way after his prime.

I cant wait for the Williams Margarito fight in July it should be great.
And looking at it from Mayweathers side...why fight williams and give him a title shot when he is not deserving as of yet?

[TheGameHHH]

I know we both have talked about Williams in another thread.

Williams is good, but I will not say he is great until he starts fighting better opponents, obviously its hard to when every single boxer in your class ducks you. We shall see how he handles Margarito. Yea he is 6'1 and an 82 inch reach which is incredible for that weight class, but has he ever truly been tested? He faced Sharmba way after his prime.

I cant wait for the Williams Margarito fight in July it should be great.
And looking at it from Mayweathers side...why fight williams and give him a title shot when he is not deserving as of yet?

de la hoya/mayweather was circled on my mental calendar for months, williams/margarito is now the next circled one. theyre fighting in june or july, i wanna say july 20th. its going to be awesome, williams is going to shit on him. i dont think im arguing that mayweather should fight williams, im just saying if he does fight him Williams is going to beat him.

[JPMNICK]

well it seems like everyone was excited for the fight, they broke all the PPV records.

The new records: an astonishing 2.15 million buys, a number that will increase once all the buys are fully accounted for (the fight could easily surpass 2.2 million buys), and a gargantuan $120 million in pay-per-view revenue.



http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2865349

[TheGameHHH]

de la hoya/mayweather was circled on my mental calendar for months, williams/margarito is now the next circled one. theyre fighting in june or july, i wanna say july 20th. its going to be awesome, williams is going to shit on him. i dont think im arguing that mayweather should fight williams, im just saying if he does fight him Williams is going to beat him.

so it turns out i was correct, Williams shat on Margarito saturday night.......so do any of you think Mayweather will allow Williams to fight him?

[FUNKMAN]

so it turns out i was correct, Williams shat on Margarito saturday night.......so do any of you think Mayweather will allow Williams to fight him?

williams has a 10 inch reach and six inch height advantage. if you're a good boxer it is a big advantage... it's a bad matchup for floyd and his style but I still think he could win

[mildly amusing]

so it turns out i was correct, Williams shat on Margarito saturday night.......so do any of you think Mayweather will allow Williams to fight him?

good call...but you know Mayweather will price himself right out of fighting anyone who's a real threat...he turned down 8mil to fight Margarito in the past, now how's he gonna get out of fighting Williams...or Ricky Hatton for that matter (who he called out in the past)...maybe he'll fight them for 15 mil then ask for 90% of the purse, so when the other fighter declines he can say they're scared...

[TheGameHHH]

you know what? I forgot about Hatton, he is fighting Mayweather next and I couldnt be happier. I think Hatton poses a real threat to Mayweather, it'll be a good fight. Ricky isn't a sell out or pussy like De La Hoya or Mayweather.

[Snacks]

you know what? I forgot about Hatton, he is fighting Mayweather next and I couldnt be happier. I think Hatton poses a real threat to Mayweather, it'll be a good fight. Ricky isn't a sell out or pussy like De La Hoya or Mayweather.

I disagree with de la hoya being a pussy but agree 100% that hatton has a real good chance to beat mayweather. Mayweathers showed me he doesnt have much power as I thought and he is more about the speed (hit and run). I think hatton has enough speed to control mayweathers speed but hatton has more power and may knock him out.

I dont like betting against mayweather but with the right odds ($) I would bet hatton to win.

[cougarjake13]

i heard somewhere that de la hoya is losing weight to get down to the 150's to fight someone but i dont remember who

[TheGameHHH]

I disagree with de la hoya being a pussy but agree 100% that hatton has a real good chance to beat mayweather. Mayweathers showed me he doesnt have much power as I thought and he is more about the speed (hit and run). I think hatton has enough speed to control mayweathers speed but hatton has more power and may knock him out.

I dont like betting against mayweather but with the right odds ($) I would bet hatton to win.

its not that i think de la hoya is a pussy, but you gotta agree him and mayweather really pussy footed around each other for 11 and a half rounds when they fought. hatton isn't going to do that, he's gonna fight this man for 12 rounds not enjoy his payday and take it easy.

[cougarjake13]

its not that i think de la hoya is a pussy, but you gotta agree him and mayweather really pussy footed around each other for 11 and a half rounds when they fought. hatton isn't going to do that, he's gonna fight this man for 12 rounds not enjoy his payday and take it easy.

thats the exact reason i lost interest in boxing

12 rounds of hugging