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girl germs
11-12-2001, 10:26 AM
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TheGameHHH
11-12-2001, 10:58 AM
girl germs, while society as a whole still kinda expects that macho attitude from guys, I think it is taught more now within families that guys are allowed to cry and show their emotions more often than they used to.

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HordeKing1
11-12-2001, 11:58 AM
TheGameHHH - Would that it be so. I suggest taking a look at Anselmi, D. & Law, A., Eds., Questions of Gender (1998), McGraw Hill: NY, for an excellent approach to gender and the role of the family and society in shaping "masculinty" and "femininty," as well as contemporary and historical definitions of the terms.

Another excellent resouce is Killmartin, C, (2000), The Masculine Self: McGraw Hill.

Finally, don't miss, Travis, C. (1998), Women and Health Psychology: Mental Health Issues, NJ: Lawrence Erlbaum Associates

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Sheeplovr
11-12-2001, 01:18 PM
shure let your feelings out in public
get your assed kicked by the mean kids
then you dont have freinds cause no body wants to hang out with the kid who shows amotion

"suck it up your embarsing me son"

man thats why we suck

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IkeaBoy
11-12-2001, 03:14 PM
i don't show emotion/don't really feel bad for anyone and don't think it's that bad a lifestyle.

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Se7en
11-12-2001, 05:18 PM
Well, I'm borderline sociopathic, so I suppose that I fit the profile. In a twisted sense, I actually think that aggression breeds progress. Call me a Klingon, if you will.

And in the environment I grew up in, it's perfectly fine to show emotion and cry....if you want to be known as a puss.

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Jennitalia
11-13-2001, 08:58 AM
from my own experience, it sucks when the guy doesn't show his feelings or emotions. It makes me feel as though he just doesn't care. It'd be nice to hear what he thinks about something or how he feels about things once in a while.




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Pootertoot
11-13-2001, 02:29 PM
I wasn't raised to be any certain way. It wasn't anything out of the Great Santini. I guess I just got the way I am by example.

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RF Godfather
11-14-2001, 05:41 AM
Living with a sister and mom who are so damn emotional I think I am more willing to display my emotions unlike certain atypical men. I have and will cry if I see something depressing.

I suck. Oh well =)

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Captain Rooster
11-14-2001, 06:04 AM
GG

I was just talking to my buddy about this the other night.

I can remember an interview that Barbara Walters conducted with General Norman Schwarzkopf, commander of US Forces during Desert Storm, right after the WAR.

When asked about his father, the General became visibly upset and tears ran down his face.
Barbara began to question the heroic General about the ability to cry openly and still be a Warrior.
General S. said, "I would not trust a man that can't cry."

There is nothing wrong with expressing your feelings.

Men have always been handcuffed by testosterone, and the bravado that comes with it. We all puff our chests at times and become slaves to the Primitive Mind. The Primitive Mind is the basic instincts that we have, all of us, that are conditioned responses to aggression, fear,.ok I am rambling.

The truth is that we need to break many of those reactions and become masters of our own mind.

I believe that many of the emotions are held back.not due to being "tough", but to an ignorance to the necessity to vent emotion. There is an inherent insecurity that is demonstrated by not being able express emotion.

I have always been a man that gets emotionally charged in all directions.

I can cry, show love, rage....

During these times that try our souls.it is very necessary for all of us to be able to communicate those "hurts" (as I like to call them) and allow the strong backs of our friends and families to bear that burden with us.


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reeshy
11-14-2001, 07:23 AM
I was raised in a very strong Irish-Catholic tradition. In other words, don't cry and take the punishment. My dad is a tough NYC fireman who showed very little emotion.
I remember the first time I saw him cry (my sister's funeral) Me and my brother didn't know what to do.

Over the years, he's mellowed and so have we. I can show more emotion now than when I was younger(although, Admittedly, Not alot more). Especially since 9/11, I've learned that it's alright to cry now and then. Most people really do understand.

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IkeaBoy
11-14-2001, 11:08 AM
I understand that a lot of men are handcuffed by testosterone but what if you don't cry, not because you don't feel, but because you just don't care?

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Noellevious
11-15-2001, 04:26 PM
I've seen quite a few guys my age (mid teens) cry...I guess it's becoming less of a "girly" thing to do as time goes by. Although it also depends on how you were raised, like reeshy said.

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt
11-15-2001, 04:46 PM
I dated a guy (the one Thunderlips "stole" me away from) who only showed extreme happiness or extreme rage (he had been arrested once for pushing a girl into a wall). I don't think he was bi-polar; he always said men who cry are "punks." He was a FREAK! He hardly ever had a bad day and on the few occasions he did he would totally explode and scare the hell out of me. He never admitted to "weakness." I couldn't relate to him at all! Hmmm, maybe it's a "black thing," too? He was the only black guy I ever dated and it just seemed that his brothers and dad had to be "in control" at all times. But I could be wrong. It's only an observation.


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IkeaBoy
11-15-2001, 05:00 PM
I've seen quite a few guys my age (mid teens) cryDrama Club kids don't count

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shotgirl
11-15-2001, 08:16 PM
there's nothing wrong with
guys showing emotion. ok,
that doesn't mean to be a
blubbering mess everyday,
but to show your true
feelings sometimes is nice.


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Thunderlips
11-16-2001, 09:13 AM
After spending your formative youth and teen years being taught to "suck it up", then yes, it gets hard to let on what you're really feeling.

It's not like anybody sat me down when I was a kid and told me to shut my yap or to quit being such a baby, I just learned it from having to take daily beatings from my brother, dread of being called a "fag" by schoolmates ("you kissed a girl, that's so gay!"), and seeing tough guys in movies. Boys don't grow up wanting to be Hugh Grant or Khofi Annan, we want to be Drill Instructor Hartman or Howie Long.

But of course there are lots of things that are "okay" to get emotional about: marriage, babies, horrible tragedies, but even then it is hard to let people see.

I do cry at sappy movies (Fly Away Home, Iron Giant) and it seems like I have cried at least every other day since 9/11, but I always know that no matter the situation, I'm supposed to be the anchor.

And I'm a wuss. I can't imagine how real tough guys feel inside.


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Noellevious
11-16-2001, 11:58 AM
Drama Club kids don't count

They probably get more ass then you. ;-)

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IkeaBoy
11-16-2001, 12:00 PM
They probably get more ass then you. Male ass doesn't count

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Noellevious
11-16-2001, 05:49 PM
Male ass doesn't count


Don't hate, Ikea. ;-)

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RF Johnny
11-16-2001, 06:38 PM
Face it Men and Women are different, and not just the obvious way's. It's just the way we are! Viva la diferance!!

Remember; Your only as young as the woman you feel!