Kansas, Evolution, and Pokemon.

[IamFogHat]

What year is this? Kansas is officially the new dumbest state in the union.
http://www.thelastboss.com/post.phtml?pk=2554

"The Kansas Board of Education approved a controversial measure yesterday that will ban all Pokemon video games, trading cards, and related merchandise because of the franchise’s blatant promotion of evolution. The vote, which passed by a narrow margin after weeks of debate amongst members of the board, is being hailed as a victory by conservatives and religious groups. Teachers will now be required to search their students at the beginning of the school day to make sure that they aren’t carrying any copies of the game. Any copies that are found will be immediately and permanently confiscated, and the student may be subject to punishments ranging from a temporary suspension to outright expulsion for repeat violators.

Many Kansas churches also held events geared towards encouraging children to drop the game, ranging from several “Pokemon burnings” where copies of the games were thrown into large bonfires, to programs that provided students with a free Bible for every game they turned in to church authorities."


Good luck you fucking hayseeds.

[Mike Teacher]

Looks like a gaming blog so I wouldnt call it a definitive source id wait for corroboration elsewhere on the net.

The very fancy way of calling, in my opinion, a Bravo Sierra.

[foodcourtdruide]

What year is this? Kansas is officially the new dumbest state in the union.
http://www.thelastboss.com/post.phtml?pk=2554

"The Kansas Board of Education approved a controversial measure yesterday that will ban all Pokemon video games, trading cards, and related merchandise because of the franchise’s blatant promotion of evolution. The vote, which passed by a narrow margin after weeks of debate amongst members of the board, is being hailed as a victory by conservatives and religious groups. Teachers will now be required to search their students at the beginning of the school day to make sure that they aren’t carrying any copies of the game. Any copies that are found will be immediately and permanently confiscated, and the student may be subject to punishments ranging from a temporary suspension to outright expulsion for repeat violators.

Many Kansas churches also held events geared towards encouraging children to drop the game, ranging from several “Pokemon burnings” where copies of the games were thrown into large bonfires, to programs that provided students with a free Bible for every game they turned in to church authorities."


Good luck you fucking hayseeds.

Many Kansas churches also held events geared towards encouraging children to drop the game, ranging from several “Pokemon burnings” where copies of the games were thrown into large bonfires,

I can't even believe this is real. This is so backwards.

[cupcakelove]

This can't be real, are you sure the date of this news story isn't the 1st?

[Furtherman]

This might be a "shut up and go away" throw away vote they are giving those religious nuts because they lost their campaign to weaken the teaching of evolution in public schools.

Conservatives lose latest Darwin battle in Kansas (http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2007-02-14T003351Z_01_N13240024_RTRUKOC_0_US-USA-EVOLUTION-KANSAS.xml)

But yes, I agree.. the fact that Kansas is dealing with such an issue in 2007 is giving it a very dumb reputation.

[Dougie Brootal]

http://bonbon13.free.fr/NaziBookBurning.jpg

[angrymissy]

My crazy ass Aunt lives near Manhattan, Kansas (THE LITTLE APPLE LOL), because her husband was relocated there by the Army.

My grandmother lives in Colorado, so one time, I drove there from NY and stopped off to visit my Aunt in Kansas. Terrifying. My Uncle told me that as of 10 years ago, they had a homemade sign hanging up in the town that said "No niggers after dark". I wanted to take them out to dinner, but it was Sunday, my Aunt informed me that EVERYTHING closes on Sunday, and the closest open restaurant would be an hours drive. I don't know how she went from NY to there. She's basically become a crazy cat lady now.

[A.J.]

"Anybody that insults Kansas gets this pen shoved into their neck!"

http://www.cah.utexas.edu/photojournalism/graphics/presidents/ford/bigpics/Ford_13.jpg

[Mike Teacher]

not to de-rail the thread but while driving to Colorado my car and me finally had enough when we hit... Manhattan Kansas, so I stayed there and remembering going to the Mall that morning to get some stuff for 'Rado.

Again not to de-rail, but there are some very terrifying places in the USA, places where you start to think, oh Jesus, please please car do not break down here just keep going every mile in my rearview mirror is one less bit of fear of the nightmare of stopping/getting stuck there. Some that come to mind from my experience...

-Most of, but mid-Florida
-Kansas
-Parts of the Rockies, like Rock Mtn Nat Park
-Badlands
-SC
-Norther Cali

[TheMojoPin]

This book didn't appear for no good reasong:

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/June04/Frank%20Cover.jpg

[AgnosticJihad]

While I couldn't find any other stories which confirm Foghat's original post, I can't dismiss this story. I've been to Kansas many times, as one of my best friends moved there back in 2002, and I try to go see him at least once a year. It is a very rural state, and has little in the way of what anyone would consider a city; even the city that bears it's name is actually in Missouri. My friend only moved there because he works for a railroad company that is based in Kansas City, and the real estate is much cheaper in Kansas, probably because noone wants to live there. My friend's oldest child is nearing school-age, and he is seriously considering moving back to Missouri becasue of Kansas' notoriously conservative schools. If this shit is true, I can't say I blame him.

[angrymissy]

not to de-rail the thread but while driving to Colorado my car and me finally had enough when we hit... Manhattan Kansas, so I stayed there and remembering going to the Mall that morning to get some stuff for 'Rado.

Again not to de-rail, but there are some very terrifying places in the USA, places where you start to think, oh Jesus, please please car do not break down here just keep going every mile in my rearview mirror is one less bit of fear of the nightmare of stopping/getting stuck there. Some that come to mind from my experience...

-Most of, but mid-Florida
-Kansas
-Parts of the Rockies, like Rock Mtn Nat Park
-Badlands
-SC
-Norther Cali

You need to add MISSOURI. On the same drive to Colorado, I stopped in the middle of Missouri at a diner. The whole place went DEAD silent when I walked in. I think it was because I was wearing lavender pants. It was 9am and they said they served breakfast to 11... but they refused to give me breakfast. There was literally like 4 or 5 pregnant teenagers there... looked like everyone came from church. They stared at us the whole time I was there, I couldn't get out fast enough.

[TheMojoPin]

I can't find anything else on this story.

[AgnosticJihad]

You need to add MISSOURI. On the same drive to Colorado, I stopped in the middle of Missouri at a diner. The whole place went DEAD silent when I walked in. I think it was because I was wearing lavender pants. It was 9am and they said they served breakfast to 11... but they refused to give me breakfast. There was literally like 4 or 5 pregnant teenagers there... looked like everyone came from church. They stared at us the whole time I was there, I couldn't get out fast enough.

This is because you were in the middle of Missouri, in the rural areas. It's not like that in the urban areas. Trust me. Don't judgethe whole state because of it's backwoods hicks. These types exist in just about every state.

[MrPink]

You need to add MISSOURI. On the same drive to Colorado, I stopped in the middle of Missouri at a diner. The whole place went DEAD silent when I walked in. I think it was because I was wearing lavender pants. It was 9am and they said they served breakfast to 11... but they refused to give me breakfast. There was literally like 4 or 5 pregnant teenagers there... looked like everyone came from church. They stared at us the whole time I was there, I couldn't get out fast enough.

Stop over at St. Louis, anywhere else, keep moving.

The midwest really is a waste of space. The only reason we keep it is because we need corn and wheat.

[angrymissy]

This is because you were in the middle of Missouri, in the rural areas. It's not like that in the urban areas. Trust me. Don't judgethe whole state because of it's backwoods hicks. These types exist in just about every state.

OK, I change my position to add RURAL MISSOURI to the list, not Missouri in general.

[Furtherman]

http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/grandpa_simpson_is_finnish.jpg

I'll be cold, dead in the ground before I ackowledge Missouri !

[TheMojoPin]

Stop over at St. Louis, anywhere else, keep moving.

The midwest really is a waste of space. The only reason we keep it is because we need corn and wheat.

Boy, yeah, I sure live in the middle of nowheresville....

http://www.artofwarsuntzu.com/Chicago%20Skyline.JPG

[SatCam]

The Kansas Board of Education approved a controversial measure yesterday that will ban all Pokemon video games, trading cards, and related merchandise because of the franchise’s blatant promotion of evolution.

YOU CAN'T DENY THAT RAICHU EVOLVES FROM PIKACHU!!!!!

BTW, did Team Rocket not have an amazing song in Double Trouble? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S80fgp8n7cw)

[AgnosticJihad]

OK, I change my position to add RURAL MISSOURI to the list, not Missouri in general.

Thank you :smile:

[AgnosticJihad]

Stop over at St. Louis, anywhere else, keep moving.

The midwest really is a waste of space. The only reason we keep it is because we need corn and wheat.

Yeah, well at least we're not the South.

[AgnosticJihad]

http://www.finlandforthought.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/grandpa_simpson_is_finnish.jpg

I'll be cold, dead in the ground before I ackowledge Missouri !

Well, in that case, let me grab my 9mm and a shovel.......

Now I just have to Confusion on a map. That's up around Idaho
, right?

[scottinnj]

I don't know why the posters to this thread are so hostile to the Midwest. Why should you all (or should I say Y'all?) be worried about some dumb Pokemon cards in Kansas? Won't affect any of you enlightened beings one damn bit, but since some people made a judgement call for their kids, you all act as if it were the Salem Witch Trials.
Born in New Jersey, and having spent 5 years in Kansas (Manhattan, Ogden, Topeka and Overland Park) I have to say even though the Phelp clan is out there, I prefer the lifestyle, people, attitude and COST OF LIVING to New Jersey and New York.
1. The people are freindlier
2. The work day is less hectic.
3. The enviroment is cleaner.
4. The taxes are much, MUCH lower.
5. The traffic is managed.
6. The roads are in better shape.
7. The politicians aren't thieves, connected to the MOB, or queers.
8. The neighbors mind their business.
9. The township leaves its revenuing nose out of your private property rights.
10. The speed limits are faster.

[scottinnj]

BTW, Kansas was always a Free State since its conception. Unlike the slave filled original 13 colonies.

[AgnosticJihad]

I don't know why the posters to this thread are so hostile to the Midwest. Why should you all (or should I say Y'all?) be worried about some dumb Pokemon cards in Kansas? Won't affect any of you enlightened beings one damn bit, but since some people made a judgement call for their kids, you all act as if it were the Salem Witch Trials.
Born in New Jersey, and having spent 5 years in Kansas (Manhattan, Ogden, Topeka and Overland Park) I have to say even though the Phelp clan is out there, I prefer the lifestyle, people, attitude and COST OF LIVING to New Jersey and New York.
1. The people are freindlier
2. The work day is less hectic.
3. The enviroment is cleaner.
4. The taxes are much, MUCH lower.
5. The traffic is managed.
6. The roads are in better shape.
7. The politicians aren't thieves, connected to the MOB, or queers.
8. The neighbors mind their business.
9. The township leaves its revenuing nose out of your private property rights.
10. The speed limits are faster.

Uh....yeah they are. Though, they do replace "queers" with religious nuts. Personally, I prefer the former.

[d-rock]

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7. The politicians aren't thieves, connected to the MOB, or queers.
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you obviously enjoyed your stay there. why not go back there??

[epo]

Kudos Mojopin. I had the same idea....

http://www.hooferscuba.org/modules/xoopsgallery/cache/albums/album17/011_Milwaukee_Skyline.jpg

[scottinnj]

Uh....yeah they are. Though, they do replace "queers" with religious nuts. Personally, I prefer the former.

Name one.

[scottinnj]

And I meant queer-
McGreevy is not a "gay American"
He is a pervert-didn't you read his book?

[AgnosticJihad]

Name one.

John Ashcroft.

[AgnosticJihad]

And I meant queer-
McGreevy is not a "gay American"
He is a pervert-didn't you read his book?

No, I didn't, because I don't care about him. But seriously, what else was I supposed to think when you said "queer"?

[scottinnj]

you obviously enjoyed your stay there. why not go back there??

Well, obviously since I was BORN and RAISED in New Jersey, my family is FROM New Jersey. Therefore, since family members are getting older and need help, it doesn't make sense to live 1400 miles from them now does it?

[scottinnj]

John Ashcroft.



Good try, but just because he sings hymns out of tune doesn't make him a "nut"

[IamFogHat]

I don't know why the posters to this thread are so hostile to the Midwest. Why should you all (or should I say Y'all?) be worried about some dumb Pokemon cards in Kansas? Won't affect any of you enlightened beings one damn bit, but since some people made a judgement call for their kids, you all act as if it were the Salem Witch Trials.
Born in New Jersey, and having spent 5 years in Kansas (Manhattan, Ogden, Topeka and Overland Park) I have to say even though the Phelp clan is out there, I prefer the lifestyle, people, attitude and COST OF LIVING to New Jersey and New York.
1. The people are freindlier
2. The work day is less hectic.
3. The enviroment is cleaner.
4. The taxes are much, MUCH lower.
5. The traffic is managed.
6. The roads are in better shape.
7. The politicians aren't thieves, connected to the MOB, or queers.
8. The neighbors mind their business.
9. The township leaves its revenuing nose out of your private property rights.
10. The speed limits are faster.

You've missed the point entirely sir.

[AgnosticJihad]

Good try, but just because he sings hymns out of tune doesn't make him a "nut"

No, but covering a statue because it shows a breast does.

And so does this:

http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=1106

[scottinnj]

I can see the poor judgement Ashcroft had in the article when it comes to health and safety standards for church run day care centers, but the "neutrality" issue looks more like a hostility to teachers trained at religious colleges.

[scottinnj]

You've missed the point entirely sir.

Well, then, I'll just shutup now.

Donk!

[AgnosticJihad]

I can see the poor judgement Ashcroft had in the article when it comes to health and safety standards for church run day care centers, but the "neutrality" issue looks more like a hostility to teachers trained at religious colleges.

It's not hostility. Religious schools which aren't accredited (like the college in the article) usually aren't accredited because they don't meet minimum standards of education, usually because of how they treat science. Thus, teachers who are trained at colleges that don't meet minimum standards of education shouldn't be certified to teach.

[scottinnj]

You're right about that, but still not a show for bias about religious schools over non-religious ones. Unless I'm reading it wrong. But the way I read it, that would have included secular schools as well.

[AgnosticJihad]

You're right about that, but still not a show for bias about religious schools over non-religious ones. Unless I'm reading it wrong. But the way I read it, that would have included secular schools as well.

I understood it to include secular schools as well, but the same applies. Though I can see how this doesn't prove him to be a religious nut. Allow me to seek more info.

[jetdog]

Good try, but just because he sings hymns out of tune doesn't make him a "nut"
No, but his decision to needlessly spend thousand of dollars to place a loin cloth on an historic statue in D.C. does.

[scottinnj]

Now, I keep hearing this "loincloth on a statue" story on Air America and People for the United Way, but now I have to call BS with the "thousands of dollars" story. Sounds like it's all bullshit to me now. Like a rumor on Snopes that just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

[patsopinion]

there should be a kansas watch group

every couple of years these morons come up with something new


when its all over i hope we find out that those people who worshpied the haileys comet had it right.
dont drink the punch you fucking hayseeds

[AgnosticJihad]

Well, in all honesty, I could find plenty of articles that showed that Ashcroft is a nut, but most of them were from questionable sources. I'm really annoyed at the St. Louis Post Dispatch's website for having a very limited archive that doesn't go back to his time as either a senator or governor.

Anyway, it's well-known that he is a pentacostal (and I'm sorry,but I find it hard to deny the nuttiness of this religion) and very active in the political activities of this religion. Also, he's closely associated with the Council of Conservative Citizens, a group known for it's pro-segregationist views and members included such wonderful people as Jesse Helms ad has friendly relations with France's National Front (a hard right political party known for it's very racist views).

I suppose it is arguable as to whether or not Ashcroft is a religious nut, but I think I have proven he's a fucking asshole, if that counts for anything.

[jetdog]

Now, I keep hearing this "loincloth on a statue" story on Air America and People for the United Way, but now I have to call BS with the "thousands of dollars" story. Sounds like it's all bullshit to me now. Like a rumor on Snopes that just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

I haven't listened to Air America in years.

Bullshit? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1788845.stm)

There's plenty more out there about it, just google "Jon Ashcroft statue"

[AgnosticJihad]

Here's an image of the covered statue (suppossedly, anyway)


http://C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Pictures\GWAR\Lady%20covered%20up

[PapaBear]

Here's an image of the covered statue (suppossedly, anyway)

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Pictures\GWAR\Lady%20covered%20up
Are you trying to post a pic from your hard drive? You need to host on a site like photobucket.com.

[PapaBear]

BTW... I've been trying to find a pic that has the drapes up, but can only find pre and post drape pics. The drapes cost 8,000 bucks.


EDIT... Here it is with the drapes
http://southpaw.goodshow.net/images/justhall.jpg

[jetdog]

BTW... I've been trying to find a pic that has the drapes up, but can only find pre and post drape pics. The drapes cost 8,000 bucks.
and thus the reason Ashcroft is a douche. he should be indicted like Jeffrey Skilling and his thousand dollar shower curtains.....oooo..wait, let me find documentation of that before I post ......:wallbash:

[boeman]

1) John Ashcroft is a nut... no way around that. He was nothing but bad for the state, why else would he lose a Senate election to a dead man.
2) I can't stand Kansas. I hardly cross state line into that state, unless I am working there.
3) Add Greater Kansas City to the stop over list, it's not backwards like the rest of Missouri (contrary to popular belief, the largest part of Kansas City is in Missouri). Springfield isn't bad... Columbia isn't bad either, but they are both large college towns.

I will say that the Kansas City Metro part of Kansas isn't too bad, but it's mostly filled with stuck up "better than everyone" types who have no idea that talking on a cell phone, eating a bowl of cereal, shaving and driving during rush hour at the same time is dangerous.


having said all of that, I have to say that I can't believe that the Kansas Dept. of Education, having just reversed the decision to include "Intelligent Design" in the definition of science on Feb. 27, 2007, would then go and do something this stupid right behind it. There are no credible news sources supporting this ban.

[Bulldogcakes]

http://www.p42.org/ALDERON/omg.jpg

[TheMojoPin]

http://www.p42.org/ALDERON/omg.jpg

That's what I was leaning towards. I can't find anything else about this.

[Fez4PrezN2008]

Eventhough that story is a joke, there ARE a lot of fucking hayseeds out here (myself excluded of course, but excuse me while I shave, eat cereal, check my e-mail, and swig a Venti Starbucks while barreling down I-435).

Given that, I don't think the MO side of KC is any better than the KS side. They both equally suck.

Someone please get me out of here...

[AgnosticJihad]

BTW... I've been trying to find a pic that has the drapes up, but can only find pre and post drape pics. The drapes cost 8,000 bucks.


EDIT... Here it is with the drapes
http://southpaw.goodshow.net/images/justhall.jpg

Yeah, I was trying to load it from my comp. That explains it.
If this is a true picture, then the one I tried posting was fake anyway. I thought it might be, since it looked like a person completely covered in a blue towel.

[PapaBear]

Yeah. It's real. I'd post what it looks like without the drapes, but you know... nudity and all.

[AgnosticJihad]

Yeah. It's real. I'd post what it looks like without the drapes, but you know... nudity and all.

Yeah, we can't have that. Ashcroft might sick the Feds on you.

[scottinnj]

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But it's still better living in the Midwest then the East Coast, even with the religious nutjobs and hayseeds.

Midwest=More Gooder

[scottinnj]

I suppose it is arguable as to whether or not Ashcroft is a religious nut, but I think I have proven he's a fucking asshole, if that counts for anything.


I'll agree with the asshole allegation. This administration has been very arrogant and secretive. I find Gonzales to be worse then Ashcroft though. But I don't even know why I tried to defend him. Once I said "name one" I felt my spidey senses tingling with danger. You posted "John Ashcroft" and I should have just signed the surrender papers then and there. I gave up about a year ago defending the administration since they can't seem to eununciate words that explain their position on policy. But it wasn't ever really trying to make Bush look good, it was more defending the conservative point of view that was sullied by these guys.
Oh well, to wrap things up
You're right
I'm wrong
Hope to meet you again on the board. This has to be my favorite place to talk about politics. Yerdaddy really makes me put on my A game and everyone is a riot too.

Later

[Yerdaddy]

I'll agree with the asshole allegation. This administration has been very arrogant and secretive. I find Gonzales to be worse then Ashcroft though. But I don't even know why I tried to defend him. Once I said "name one" I felt my spidey senses tingling with danger. You posted "John Ashcroft" and I should have just signed the surrender papers then and there. I gave up about a year ago defending the administration since they can't seem to eununciate words that explain their position on policy. But it wasn't ever really trying to make Bush look good, it was more defending the conservative point of view that was sullied by these guys.
Oh well, to wrap things up
You're right
I'm wrong
Hope to meet you again on the board. This has to be my favorite place to talk about politics. Yerdaddy really makes me put on my A game and everyone is a riot too.

Later

Britney Spears started sounding like pretty good intellectual company didn't she?

Welcome back Budday! I always feel more relaxed when I see you're back. Like there's a point to political debate after all.

And you’ll at least understand that I have to post this cartoon because it’s funny.


http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/images/war.312.gif

[AgnosticJihad]

I'll agree with the asshole allegation. This administration has been very arrogant and secretive. I find Gonzales to be worse then Ashcroft though. But I don't even know why I tried to defend him. Once I said "name one" I felt my spidey senses tingling with danger. You posted "John Ashcroft" and I should have just signed the surrender papers then and there. I gave up about a year ago defending the administration since they can't seem to eununciate words that explain their position on policy. But it wasn't ever really trying to make Bush look good, it was more defending the conservative point of view that was sullied by these guys.
Oh well, to wrap things up
You're right
I'm wrong
Hope to meet you again on the board. This has to be my favorite place to talk about politics. Yerdaddy really makes me put on my A game and everyone is a riot too.

Later

I enjoyed our debate as well. You did a pretty good job of attempting to defend Ashcroft, though I couldn't for the life of me figure out why you would want to, either. I post almost exclusively on the politics threads, so I'm sure we'll encounter each other again. Yerdaddy is easily one of the best-informed people I've ever encountered. Great cartoon, btw. Very Tom Tomorrow-ish.

[boeman]

Given that, I don't think the MO side of KC is any better than the KS side. They both equally suck.



our taxes are lower on the missouri side (Lee's Summit not included).

[cougarjake13]

I enjoyed our debate as well. You did a pretty good job of attempting to defend Ashcroft, though I couldn't for the life of me figure out why you would want to, either. I post almost exclusively on the politics threads, so I'm sure we'll encounter each other again. Yerdaddy is easily one of the best-informed people I've ever encountered. Great cartoon, btw. Very Tom Tomorrow-ish.

love the weeme you have jihad

[AgnosticJihad]

love the weeme you have jihad

Thanks. I really wanted to make it holding an AK-47, or any kind of gun for that matter, but they didn't have any. The sword works, though.

[keithy_19]

Though it's been disproven, I thought it was adorable.

http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Creatures_and_Cartoons/Pokemon/Pikachu.gif
"Fucking Kansas."

[keithy_19]

May I also point out that in my childhood I was the tolitarian president of the pokemon club at my school. I took over the club with the force of Hitler and Nazi Germany, and kept people coming back with the smooth talking of Bill Clinton. The club eventually disbanded, but I will forever be remembered as Pokemon President Keithy_19.

http://egweb.mines.edu/faculty/whoff/family/pic2.jpg