Pete Rose "Bet on his team every night"

[spadanko]

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[BoondockSaint]

Who would believe anything he says anymore?&nbsp; He always said he never bet on baseball.&nbsp; Then he said he did but not on his team.&nbsp; Now he says he bet on his team but always to win.&nbsp; Would anyone be surprised if 5 years from now he comes out and says he sometimes bet on his team to lose?

[TheGameHHH]

yea, i brought this up in the MLB discussion thread........its certainly interesting news

[EarlPlusTwo]

I think he belongs in the hall.<br />

[burrben]

it don't make him a bad person

[barjockey]

<font face="comic sans ms,sand" size="2">&nbsp;I bet on his team every night too. </font>

[cougarjake13]

<p>fuck what he did</p><p>he belongs in the hall</p>

[FezPaul]

<p><strong><font face="courier new,courier" size="2">He bet on his team to win.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="Courier New" size="2">I think all pro athletes should be required to bet half their salary on their team.</font></strong></p>

[KnoxHarrington]

I just find it hard to believe that if the Reds lost 4 or 5 in a row, and he knows that the starter for the next game is their worst starter, he'd still bet on the Reds.

According to the Dowd report, he wasn't placing his bets with some off-shore book; he was putting his heat with real, authentic Mob dudes. You don't want to get too far behind with them.

[Gvac]

<p>As a little kid I grew up idolizing the Big Red Machine, mainly Pete Rose and Johnny Bench.&nbsp; As I've gotten older I can see that Pete Rose the ballplayer was something special indeed, but Pete Rose the man left a little bit to be desired.&nbsp; </p><p>That being said, I still believe his accomplishments as a player deserve the ultimate recognition.&nbsp; How can you not put this guy in the Hall of Fame?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img src="http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s109/GregRotten/peterosedive.jpg" border="0" />&nbsp;</p>

[Bossanova]

I will use the tired old argument.&nbsp;OJ is still in the hall after killing two people(I know its a different sport), and Mickey Mantle was an alcoholic and owned casinos.&nbsp; Clearly its more than his out of the sport behavior.&nbsp; I believe Selig has a personl conflict with him bigger than the cheating.

[J.Clints]

<p>Pete Rose was a great Player and Coach. There is going to be a lot of players in the hall who have done thing that are not right. Rose needs to be in the hall. </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Bossanova]

He was deserving of the hall before he began to manage.&nbsp; And since that is when he did this shit, I don't see how they can ignore his accomplishments.&nbsp; If he bet on his team while playing, I say no chance

[J.Clints]

<strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br />He was deserving of the hall before he began to manage.&nbsp; And since that is when he did this shit, I don't see how they can ignore his accomplishments.&nbsp; If he bet on his team while playing, I say no chance <p>NO matter when he bet he should be in. Gambeling is a sickness for some people. Plenty of players did drugs and drank while playing are they in the hall. YES</p>

[Bossanova]

I say this, because it is in the bilaws(spelling).&nbsp; Its posted in every locker room.&nbsp; If you bet on your sport you will be banned.&nbsp; If your banned while you are playing, no way should you go into the hall

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Bossanova on 3-17-07 @ 8:02 PM</span>

[J.Clints]

<strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br />I say this, because it is in the bilaws(spelling).&nbsp; Its posted in every locker room.&nbsp; If you bet on your sport you will be banned.&nbsp; If your banned while you are playing, no way should you go into the hall <span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Bossanova on 3-17-07 @ 8:02 PM</span> <p>Was it like that when he was playing?</p>

[Clutch]

<p>Numbers alone, yes he should be in ... Does anyone have what the &quot;rules&quot; are for someone to get into the hall of fame?</p><p>&nbsp;What gets me is that he lied for what, 15 years, and then he thinks he can come clean and get in? If he said he did it like day 1, I think it would be a different story.</p><p>&nbsp;The comment earlier about OJ ... he killed people AFTER he was in the hall, so I personally don't think that would matter - but I'm sure the Canton is frowning everytime someone walks past his bust ...</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Bossanova]

<strong>jclintsma</strong> wrote: <strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br />I say this, because it is in the bilaws(spelling).&nbsp; Its posted in every locker room.&nbsp; If you bet on your sport you will be banned.&nbsp; If your banned while you are playing, no way should you go into the hall <span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Bossanova on 3-17-07 @ 8:02 PM</span> <p>Was it like that when he was playing?</p><p>&nbsp;</p>As far as I know it was

[Death Metal Moe]

<p>You would think with all his winnings he could have bought a better hair cut.</p><p>Put him in the hall the day after he dies.</p>

[mendyweiss]

2 to 1 says he doesn't get in

[TheMojoPin]

<strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>jclintsma</strong> wrote: <strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br />I say this, because it is in the bilaws(spelling).&nbsp; Its posted in every locker room.&nbsp; If you bet on your sport you will be banned.&nbsp; If your banned while you are playing, no way should you go into the hall <span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Bossanova on 3-17-07 @ 8:02 PM</span> <p>Was it like that when he was playing?</p><p>&nbsp;</p>As far as I know it was <p>The harsh rules against gambling in baseball existed before Rose was even born.&nbsp; He knew exactly what he couldn't do the moment he started his MLB career and he did it anyway.&nbsp; Fuck him.&nbsp; Great player...moronic human being.&nbsp; He dug his own grave.</p>

[d-rock]

&nbsp;Great player...moronic human being.&nbsp; <p>there's nobody else like this in the hall???</p>

[Bossanova]

<strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote: <p>You would think with all his winnings he could have bought a better hair cut.</p><p>Put him in the hall the day after he dies.</p><p><br />_________________</p><p>You know what, Moe makes a great point.&nbsp; I actually am changing my view.&nbsp; Anyone who can pull off that haircut for twenty plus year deserves to be in the hall.</p>

[Death Metal Moe]

<strong>TheMojoPin</strong> wrote:<br /><p>The harsh rules against gambling in baseball existed before Rose was even born.&nbsp; He knew exactly what he couldn't do the moment he started his MLB career and he did it anyway.&nbsp; Fuck him.&nbsp; Great player...moronic human being.&nbsp; He dug his own grave.</p><p>Thank you.&nbsp; </p><p>If you put Rose in, then just throw out all the fucking rules in Baseball.&nbsp; Stop caring if players use steroids.&nbsp; Stop caring if the dope up.&nbsp; Stop searching the pitchers for vaseline and jalepeno up the nose.</p><p>Because at that point, your own rules mean nothing to you.&nbsp; You can't let some time pass and change everything just because people don't feel as bad about what he did.</p>

[Death Metal Moe]

<strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Death Metal Moe</strong> wrote: <p>You would think with all his winnings he could have bought a better hair cut.</p><p>Put him in the hall the day after he dies.</p><p><br />_________________</p><p>You know what, Moe makes a great point.&nbsp; I actually am changing my view.&nbsp; Anyone who can pull off that haircut for twenty plus year deserves to be in the hall.</p><p>He only &quot;Pulled it off&quot; if he was trying to look like a Trainable his entire professional career.&nbsp; Fucking Prince Valiant looking retard.&nbsp; But the man could play.&nbsp; Too bad he thought he was above the rules.</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<strong>TheMojoPin</strong> wrote:<p>The harsh rules against gambling in baseball existed before Rose was even born. He knew exactly what he couldn't do the moment he started his MLB career and he did it anyway. Fuck him. Great player...moronic human being. He dug his own grave.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Amen. </p><p>As weird as it is to have the all time hit leader NOT in the H.O.F., you just cant let this guy near Baseball. Every time he opens his mouth you realize he's not contrite, and (to use a Catholic term) he has no intention to repent. He's still seen regularly in Vegas, who's he kidding?&nbsp;</p><p>And what, this is supposed to make things better? That he bet on his team to win every night? So he didn't blow out his bullpen once a week, he blew it out every night. It still affects him doing what is in the best interest of the team. Fuck him. </p>

[TheMojoPin]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>TheMojoPin</strong> wrote: <p>The harsh rules against gambling in baseball existed before Rose was even born. He knew exactly what he couldn't do the moment he started his MLB career and he did it anyway. Fuck him. Great player...moronic human being. He dug his own grave.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Amen. </p><p>As weird as it is to have the all time hit leader NOT in the H.O.F., you just cant let this guy near Baseball. Every time he opens his mouth you realize he's not contrite, and (to use a Catholic term) he has no intention to repent. He's still seen regularly in Vegas, who's he kidding?&nbsp;</p><p>And what, this is supposed to make things better? That he bet on his team to win every night? So he didn't blow out his bullpen once a week, he blew it out every night. It still affects him doing what is in the best interest of the team. Fuck him. </p><p>And like I said in the MLB thread, I hate it when people try to shrug off how Rose blatantly and repeatedly broke the biggest rule in baseball for nearly a century by bringing up steroids.&nbsp; Baseballs changing views now don't magically erase the gambling rule.&nbsp; In fact, baseball went through something very similar with gambling...gambling was viewed as a &quot;hidden vice&quot; of baseball for many years before it was finally banned.&nbsp; We're seeing the same thing with steroids now...so just because people maybe got away with something before an officially ruling doesn't make it OK for them to do it after it's against the rules...it actually makes it worse since there's no question as to whether or not the player shouldn't be doing what they're doing.</p>