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booster11373

03-13-2007, 12:58 PM

...Religious beliefsEven though there by some estimates 20-30 million atheists and agnostics in the United States there hasn't been 1 member of congress to declare themselves so until now that is<a href="http://www.beliefnet.com/story/213/story_21388_1.html">http://www.beliefnet.com/story/213/story_21388_1.html</a>In a statement, Stark said he is a "Unitarian who does not believe in a supreme being"Maybe the most honest member of congress?

Furtherman

03-13-2007, 01:03 PM

Good for him.I'd bet that 99% of the others only go to church to show their face to appease their constituents or make good of some support they got during a homily in October.

jetdog

03-13-2007, 01:05 PM

Although I completely believe him, for the district he represents, this would be equivalent to Hilary and Obama heading down south and donning those stupid, fake Uncle Tom accents.  In that district, it would probably be a political blunder to admit to any type of Christian beleif.Well having spewed out that completely pessimistic crap, let me now congratulate the guy for staking his territory.

SatCam

03-13-2007, 06:53 PM

Only 45 percent of Americans said they would vote for a "generally well-qualified" atheist, according to a February Gallup Poll, ranking them lowest on a list that included Mormons (72 percent), candidates on their third marriage (67 percent) and homosexuals (55 percent).

atleast we all have a common goal in keeping those mormons out of office

Midkiff

03-13-2007, 07:01 PM

Yeah, those Mormons are hayseeds.

ChimneyFish

03-14-2007, 12:11 PM

Furtherman wrote: Good for him.I'd bet that 99% of the others only go to church to show their face to appease their constituents or make good of some support they got during a homily in October.  That would be a fools bet, my friend.The only one I see being enough of a rube to truely buy that nonsense is Bush.

Furtherman

03-14-2007, 12:22 PM

Not sure what you mean - what nonsense would Bush buy?

reillyluck

03-14-2007, 12:23 PM

youre all going to hell.                         see you in a few years.

ChimneyFish

03-14-2007, 12:25 PM

Furtherman wrote: Not sure what you mean - what nonsense would Bush buy? Religion.

ChimneyFish

03-14-2007, 12:26 PM

reillyluck wrote: youre all going to hell. see you in a few years. If you want, you can join my softball team.<img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smoke.gif" border="0" width="46" height="20" />

booster11373

03-14-2007, 12:40 PM

ChimneyFish wrote: Furtherman wrote: Good for him.I'd bet that 99% of the others only go to church to show their face to appease their constituents or make good of some support they got during a homily in October.  That would be a fools bet, my friend.The only one I see being enough of a rube to truely buy that nonsense is Bush.I think he wants you to bet 100%

narc

03-14-2007, 12:53 PM

I actually don't know why there are any Unitarians. Unitarianism has always kind of struck me as a bullshit faith. It's like the religion for people who are too pussy to be atheists or agnostics so they feel like they have to believe in something.

Furtherman

03-14-2007, 12:56 PM

ChimneyFish wrote: Furtherman wrote: Not sure what you mean - what nonsense would Bush buy? Religion.No argument here!

Furtherman

03-14-2007, 12:57 PM

narc

03-14-2007, 01:05 PM

One of my friends went to a Unitarian service once. They literally had one segment that was like a show and tell where someone brought out a seashell they got from their florida vacation and they talked about seeing the magic and wonder of God in its design. Sounded like the front of a damn hallmark greeting card. That's part of the reason I think there aren't nearly as many Unitarians as there used to be. I can certainly understand and respect having strongly-held religious beliefs. But when your religion is that, it just seems like what's the fucking point?

DonInNC

03-14-2007, 01:29 PM

narc wrote: I actually don't know why there are any Unitarians. Unitarianism has always kind of struck me as a bullshit faith. It's like the religion for people who are too pussy to be atheists or agnostics so they feel like they have to believe in something. Most of the unitarians I know are admittedly atheist or agnostic. They're not really about a faith, but about the "principles and purposes" of the unitarians, most notably "The inherent worth and dignity of every person". I think going to church for them is more about personal growth and social contact than worship. But I'm basing my opinion on four or five people, so that's probably painting with a very broad brush.

badmonkey

03-14-2007, 01:44 PM

I'm both founder and member of the International Church of Badmonkey.  We don't require our members to show up to services or anything like that.  We mostly just want to be able to keep our mohawks blue for "religious reasons" without getting fired over it.  We would also like a religious exemption from the new internet royalty rates.  We don't want 10% of your income cuz we're not in it for the money, but we wouldn't object to some spare change so we can get some beer and maybe a pizza if ya got it.You will never find a more honest religion than the International Church of Badmonkey.  Badmonkey

boeman

03-14-2007, 04:43 PM

badmonkey wrote: I'm both founder and member of the International Church of Badmonkey.  We don't require our members to show up to services or anything like that.  We mostly just want to be able to keep our mohawks blue for "religious reasons" without getting fired over it.  We would also like a religious exemption from the new internet royalty rates.  We don't want 10% of your income cuz we're not in it for the money, but we wouldn't object to some spare change so we can get some beer and maybe a pizza if ya got it.You will never find a more honest religion than the International Church of Badmonkey.  Badmonkey is this a pitch for a Sleeves song?

FezPaul

03-14-2007, 05:03 PM

Furtherman wrote: narc wrote: I actually don't know why there are any Unitarians. Unitarianism has always kind of struck me as a bullshit faith. It's like the religion for people who are too pussy to be atheists or agnostics so they feel like they have to believe in something. I believe in swordfish.He believes in swordfish!<img src="http://www.punkbands.com/lyrics/images/dmilkmen.jpg" border="0" width="165" height="165" />

badmonkey

03-14-2007, 05:25 PM

boeman wrote: badmonkey wrote: I'm both founder and member of the International Church of Badmonkey. We don't require our members to show up to services or anything like that. We mostly just want to be able to keep our mohawks blue for "religious reasons" without getting fired over it. We would also like a religious exemption from the new internet royalty rates. We don't want 10% of your income cuz we're not in it for the money, but we wouldn't object to some spare change so we can get some beer and maybe a pizza if ya got it.You will never find a more honest religion than the International Church of Badmonkey.  Badmonkey is this a pitch for a Sleeves song?Heh... it didn't start off that way, but now i'm curious.Speaking of Dead Milkmen... Serrated Edge and Methodist Coloring book are fantastic religion songs.Serrated Edge "Just me on a hilltop with 15 girls, In a Nelson Reilly orgy that'll make your hair curl. I don't piss, I don't shit, I'm gettin' no relief, People shake their heads in disbelief." Methodist Coloring Book"You've got a Methodist Coloring book and you color really well But don't color outside the lines or God will send you to Hell."  Badmonkey

Crispy123

03-14-2007, 05:31 PM

Why would an atheist or agnostic participate in government? They serve no higher good than themselves right? Maybe that explains your silly little question.

Gvac

03-14-2007, 05:33 PM

There's a lot of things I wish our politicians would be truthful about.  Their religious beliefs aren't very high on that list for me.

SatCam

03-14-2007, 06:18 PM

CPW3 wrote: Why would an atheist or agnostic participate in government? They serve no higher good than themselves right? Maybe that explains your silly little question.

assuming you're being serious...

isn't the whole point of doing good for your religion for your own personal gain: to get into heaven?

beliefs that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

hedges

03-14-2007, 06:46 PM

I don't think that this guy's beliefs should be a big deal. What amazes me is that he is the first member of Congress to openly have them.

Yerdaddy

03-14-2007, 07:45 PM

Only 45 percent of Americans said they would vote for a "generally well-qualified" atheist, according to a February Gallup Poll, ranking them lowest on a list that included Mormons (72 percent), candidates on their third marriage (67 percent) and homosexuals (55 percent).We are a petty and ignorant people.

Furtherman

03-15-2007, 06:53 AM

CPW3 wrote: Why would an atheist or agnostic participate in government? They serve no higher good than themselves right? Maybe that explains your silly little question. Because government should be about what is best for the people, not whatever gods you pray to.  An atheists and agnostics are selfless, because they do the right things not only because they know it is the right thing to do, but it also makes them feel good.  There is no other agenda, no other ethos to please.