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furie

03-09-2007, 05:27 PM

<a target='blank' href=http://www.theaviationnation.com/2007/02/21/dhs-dry-runs-signal-imminent-terrorist-attack/>On November 29, 2006, The Department of Homeland Security, in a "Joint Homeland Security Assessment" with the FBI, released an ominous report. I viewed an unclassified version of the document, the purpose of which was "to provide readers with DHS and FBI analysis of terrorist use of dry runs before initiating an attack." The assessment was circulated to US federal agents and its title, in bold black letters, could not have been more clear:"Terrorist Use of "Dry Run" Tactic May Be Tip-Off for Imminent Terrorist Attack."

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thoughts?

cougarjake13

03-09-2007, 05:35 PM

furie wrote: <a href="http://www.theaviationnation.com/2007/02/21/dhs-dry-runs-signal-imminent-terrorist-attack" target="blank"></a>..... thoughts? dont get on a plane on 3-11which is sunday

kellermcgee21

03-09-2007, 05:41 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: furie wrote: <a href="http://www.theaviationnation.com/2007/02/21/dhs-dry-runs-signal-imminent-terrorist-attack" target="blank"></a>..... thoughts? dont get on a plane on 3-11which is sunday that's crazy... the article doesn't give specific threats....it also doesn't give any general info about any upcoming threats.  It just says that dry runs are a big sign of upcoming terror attacks.  Which is basically saying they think if they are on the lookout for dry runs by terrorists they may be able to stop a future attack if they arrest them during a dry run.

furie

03-09-2007, 05:53 PM

kellermcgee21 wrote: cougarjake13 wrote: furie wrote: <a href="http://www.theaviationnation.com/2007/02/21/dhs-dry-runs-signal-imminent-terrorist-attack" target="blank"></a>..... thoughts? dont get on a plane on 3-11which is sunday that's crazy... the article doesn't give specific threats....it also doesn't give any general info about any upcoming threats. It just says that dry runs are a big sign of upcoming terror attacks. Which is basically saying they think if they are on the lookout for dry runs by terrorists they may be able to stop a future attack if they arrest them during a dry run.

exactly, well put. this is just one possible indicator of an attack. and imminent is a relative term. these guys are patient, and imminent could translate into years.

Enabler

03-09-2007, 05:57 PM

James Woods? Its his fault?

Yerdaddy

03-10-2007, 02:36 AM

was this a test, Furie????

boeman

03-10-2007, 11:59 AM

3-11 sucks... are they still a band?

BoondockSaint

03-10-2007, 12:02 PM

Today is Osama's 50th birthday.

Heather 8

03-10-2007, 12:09 PM

Tenbatsuzen

03-10-2007, 12:09 PM

There was 8 years between terrorist attacks on US Soil.  Furie's right, these guys are patient and have plenty of time, and no shortage of people to recruit.

high fly

03-10-2007, 09:12 PM

What?No Orange Alert?If I'm not mistaken, the last one came right after the Democratic convention in '04 and appeared to be aimed more at squooshing any momentum for the Kerry campaign from getting off the ground.This is supported when one keeps in mind the alert was based on  a "cofession" obtained by waterboarding a single al Qaeda prisoner who is certifiable with the multiple personality dosorder thingy (I believe that Abu Zubaida chap, but I'm not positive).

high fly

03-10-2007, 09:15 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: There was 8 years between terrorist attacks on US Soil.  Furie's right, these guys are patient and have plenty of time, and no shortage of people to recruit. The one previous to the '93 WTC attack was when, back in the 50s by Puerto Rican nationalists or something?Kinda stretches the average, don't it?

TheMojoPin

03-11-2007, 05:58 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: There was 8 years between terrorist attacks on US Soil.  Furie's right, these guys are patient and have plenty of time, and no shortage of people to recruit. "SCORE!!!  I'm totally off the hook..."(Matty, I get what your saying, but the "8 years between terrorist attacks on US soil" is a fallacy you might want to clarify)<img src="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/mugshots/mcveighmug.jpg" border="0" width="600" height="550" />

This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 3-11-07 @ 9:59 AM

oh_kee_pa

03-11-2007, 06:17 AM

in today's world, w/ crazy people blaming the gov't for everything, even things out of there control it is easier for them to constantly say we are under attack then to say it doesnt look likely in the near future

furie

03-11-2007, 09:54 AM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">high fly wrote: What?No Orange Alert?If I'm not mistaken, the last one came right after the Democratic convention in '04 and appeared to be aimed more at squooshing any momentum for the Kerry campaign from getting off the ground.This is supported when one keeps in mind the alert was based on a "cofession" obtained by waterboarding a single al Qaeda prisoner who is certifiable with the multiple personality dosorder thingy (I believe that Abu Zubaida chap, but I'm not positive). <hr color="cococo" align="left">

aviation has been on orange alert since august 10th. the whole country is at yellow but since aviation is the targeted industry and there have been serious & specific threats (generated by German & UK's intel) since the summer, it's more elevated.

nice try though



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sailor

03-11-2007, 10:12 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: There was 8 years between terrorist attacks on US Soil. Furie's right, these guys are patient and have plenty of time, and no shortage of people to recruit. "SCORE!!! I'm totally off the hook..."(Matty, I get what your saying, but the "8 years between terrorist attacks on US soil" is a fallacy you might want to clarify)  This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 3-11-07 @ 9:59 AM good point, but to you and high fly i believe tenbats was referring to attacks specifically by this one group of peoples.

TheMojoPin

03-11-2007, 10:25 AM

sailor wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: There was 8 years between terrorist attacks on US Soil. Furie's right, these guys are patient and have plenty of time, and no shortage of people to recruit. "SCORE!!! I'm totally off the hook..."(Matty, I get what your saying, but the "8 years between terrorist attacks on US soil" is a fallacy you might want to clarify) This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 3-11-07 @ 9:59 AM  good point, but to you and high fly i believe tenbats was referring to attacks specifically by this one group of peoples. Oh, I agree that's what he meant...I was just busting his balls about how he worded it.I've read far too few articles and books that make the very valid point that the mindsets in this "war" between the average American (and really the "western" world as a whole) and the muslim extremists couldn't be more different in terms of how long this conflict should last.  Most Americans don't have the stomach or the desire for a "long" war.  And this isn't necessarily a bad thing...it's just what our history has taught us.  Most of the armed conflicts our country has been involved with on a large scale have averaged roughly 5 years or less, Vietnam being the very obvious exception.  The viewpoint of the muslim world, especially the extremists, is essentially "however long it takes," and this is an attitude that has existed in that region of the world dating back to the Persian empire.  1 year, 5, 10, 100, 1,000...it doesn't matter.  A victory in, say, 2001 and then another in 2018 might as well have happened just days apart.  There's no real rush to "get 'er done," which stands in stark contrast to the American mentality of "are we there yet?!?"

Yerdaddy

03-11-2007, 06:32 PM

So what are they waiting for? For us to do something really bad to a Muslim nation? Or two?

A.J.

03-12-2007, 03:42 AM

Not likely.  They took my toothpaste at the airport.  So much for my minty-fresh martyrdom.

Yerdaddy

03-12-2007, 09:22 AM

That's why I only travel with Tartar-Control BaconMint Crest! Leaves your mouth greasy-cool!