The Greatest Rapper of All Time.. [Archive]

TheMojoPin

03-07-2007, 03:15 PM

Bossanova wrote: <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/Big-l-big-picture-album.jpg" border="0" alt="Image:Big-l-big-picture-album.jpg" width="300" height="296" />Greatest of all timeand a close second<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/Hiphopisdead1.jpg" border="0" alt="Image:Hiphopisdead1.jpg" width="500" height="500" />If Nas had stopped after the 2nd album, yeah.  He kinda knocked his stock lower with each following album.  I still like him, but I gave up on him putting out another great track a long time ago.Man, I don't get the whole Big L thing...I've got his alnums and it's clear the man had talent, but I don;t understand how he ends up at or near the top of so many MC lists.  I'd put him in my top 10, but probably on way low end.  I swear he's famous just because of that Gang Starr song..."BIG L/Rest in peace..."

BoondockSaint

03-07-2007, 03:17 PM

Bossanova

03-07-2007, 03:19 PM

TheMojoPin wrote:  If Nas had stopped after the 2nd album, yeah.  He kinda knocked his stock lower with each following album.  I still like him, but I gave up on him putting out another great track a long time ago.  Mojo i have to disagree with this.  Nas has had three very strong albums in the last four years.  One of the best lyrically

TheMojoPin

03-07-2007, 03:25 PM

Bossanova wrote: TheMojoPin wrote:  If Nas had stopped after the 2nd album, yeah.  He kinda knocked his stock lower with each following album.  I still like him, but I gave up on him putting out another great track a long time ago.  Mojo i have to disagree with this.  Nas has had three very strong albums in the last four years.  One of the best lyricallyI've got the albums and I like them, but I just can't call them great.  Nas is up there because with Illmatic he put out what I think is one of the few perfect albums out there in ANY genre, but beyond that his stuff's been mostly "just" good, and he has put out some real shit.  He just doesn't really strike me as hungry and his reply tracks to other MC's calling him out are waaaaaaaaaay too weak for someone as talented as him.  That lyrical war he had going with Jay-Z should have a spawned a whole album's worth of stone cold classic battle raps, but he couldn't/wouldn't step up except with a few attacks here and there in some pretty "meh" songs.

foodcourtdruide

03-07-2007, 03:35 PM

Gang Starr or Chuck D. If we're going west coast Ice Cube. I defy anyone to name 5 better rap albums than The Predator (I know someone will name 5 they like better, but consider yourself defied)!

foodcourtdruide

03-07-2007, 03:38 PM

Forgot to mention this crazy bastard. The one and only Kool Keith.<img src="http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_09.30.04/beat/photos/qa.JPG" border="0" width="218" height="225" />

Marc with a c

03-07-2007, 03:38 PM

i think parapa has a sweet flow

Reephdweller

03-07-2007, 03:44 PM

Rakim a say peace!<img src="http://accel15.mettre-put-idata.over-blog.com/0/09/20/39/rakim.jpg" border="0" />

Midkiff

03-07-2007, 03:53 PM

Doo Doo Brown

TheGameHHH

03-07-2007, 03:56 PM

Rakim, B.I.G., Jay-Z, Nas..........thats my top 4 in order

DarkHippie

03-07-2007, 03:58 PM

no props for mos def?

weekapaugjz

03-07-2007, 03:58 PM

i thought this was going to be a poll.  my first thought was biggie.  i can't believe its been ten years either.  i remember hearing this on the radio driving to my brothers hockey championship game.  my friend, who was a tupac friend said, "west coast strikes back motherfucker!"  i punched him in the face.r.i.p biggie smalls

narc

03-07-2007, 04:00 PM

foodcourtdruide wrote: Forgot to mention this crazy bastard. The one and only Kool Keith.<img src="http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_09.30.04/beat/photos/qa.JPG" border="0" width="218" height="225" />QFT

Midkiff

03-07-2007, 04:06 PM

DarkHippie wrote: no props for mos def? Mos Def is a great musician, but I love him more for his non-hiphop. For example, he did a song called "Creole" with the Charlie Hunter Quartet. That is one of my favorite songs of all time - across all genres!!!

Bossanova

03-07-2007, 04:09 PM

DarkHippie

03-07-2007, 04:13 PM

jdmidkiff wrote: DarkHippie wrote: no props for mos def? Mos Def is a great musician, but I love him more for his non-hiphop. For example, he did a song called "Creole" with the Charlie Hunter Quartet. That is one of my favorite songs of all time - across all genres!!!him and talib kweli are the only two hip hop artists from this century that i really dig.  And black star is the bees knees

Bossanova

03-07-2007, 04:14 PM

DarkHippie wrote: And black star is the bees knees One of my favorite albums of all time

Doctor Z

03-07-2007, 04:21 PM

bigredd

03-07-2007, 04:29 PM

Robert Fuckin Zimmerman Does LL even get a vote? You've got to have Biggie, Rakim and Chuck D in the argument. Pick just one? I think not.

newport king

03-07-2007, 04:31 PM

rakim was WAY ahead of his time. and for you biggie fans...<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5KEqwf4x6E&mode=related&search">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5KEqwf4x6E&mode=related&search</a>=fixed it.

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Doctor Z

03-07-2007, 04:36 PM

Haha, so that's what the clean version sounds like... The dirty version of that song is SO incredibly more harsh.

newport king

03-07-2007, 04:40 PM

didnt actually listen to it...but fav line from that song "you claim to be a playa but i fucked your wife." harsh.

raulfd4

03-07-2007, 04:40 PM

<img src="http://photo.sing365.com/music/picture.nsf/Slick-Rick-photo/48256C71003578A2482568AB0008ABFA/$file/Slick+Rick.gif" border="0" alt="slick rick" title="slick rick" width="204" height="188" />slick rick nickahhh

newport king

03-07-2007, 04:46 PM

i was actually having this conversation today, if you listen to alot of old school and compare it to today, its kinda whack.  listen to mona lisa or ladi dadi or white lines...its fucking ridiculous compared to alot of todays stuff.

newport king

03-07-2007, 04:50 PM

thats why i say rakim was ahead of his time. i was never a huge fan in his heyday but listen to microphone fiend or know the ledge, if that shit came out today either would be on steady rotation. and i subtract points from jay z for this last album. it was a big disapointment. he wasnt kidding when he said he'd be back like jordan wearing the 4-5....if anyone paid attention jordan sucked when he came back with that number.

Cleophus James

03-07-2007, 04:54 PM

<img src="http://www.stickergirl.com/images/WUTANG.jpg" border="0" width="579" height="527" />Please don't make me choose one

TheMojoPin

03-07-2007, 04:57 PM

ESDsucks@life wrote: <img src="http://www.stickergirl.com/images/WUTANG.jpg" border="0" width="579" height="527" />Please don't make me choose one Easily my favorite hip-hop act of all time.  I maintain that "Triumph" is the best "pure" hip-hop song ever.

TheMojoPin

03-07-2007, 04:59 PM

Guys like Eminem and Jay-Z really frustrate me because they clearly have monster talent as MC's, but it seems like they're willfully limiting themselves.  Eminem's first 2 albums are awesome but he's been stuck on repeat since then..."I hate my wife, I hate my mom, I was poor and white, American blames me for everything"...repeat ad nauseum.  And he's a HORRIBLE producer who thinks he can do better than Dre.

PhishHead

03-07-2007, 05:03 PM

besides Blackstar who are amazing..<img src="http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c174/Dymsrock/Atmosphere-slug.jpg" border="0" width="225" height="225" />slug is amazing and deserves more respect in this thread

TheGameHHH

03-07-2007, 05:14 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: Guys like Eminem and Jay-Z really frustrate me because they clearly have monster talent as MC's, but it seems like they're willfully limiting themselves. Eminem's first 2 albums are awesome but he's been stuck on repeat since then..."I hate my wife, I hate my mom, I was poor and white, American blames me for everything"...repeat ad nauseum. And he's a HORRIBLE producer who thinks he can do better than Dre.How is Jay-Z, in any aspect of life and/or art "limiting himself?" His last album, despite what was said in this thread prior, was very good not to mention his list of classic hip-hop  albums. He is President of Def Jam and just sold Roc-A-Wear for $205 million. Not too mention he's fucking one of the hottest girls walking the planet.

TheMojoPin

03-07-2007, 05:19 PM

TheGameHHH wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: Guys like Eminem and Jay-Z really frustrate me because they clearly have monster talent as MC's, but it seems like they're willfully limiting themselves. Eminem's first 2 albums are awesome but he's been stuck on repeat since then..."I hate my wife, I hate my mom, I was poor and white, American blames me for everything"...repeat ad nauseum. And he's a HORRIBLE producer who thinks he can do better than Dre.How is Jay-Z, in any aspect of life and/or art "limiting himself?" His last album, despite what was said in this thread prior, was very good not to mention his list of classic hip-hop  albums. He is President of Def Jam and just sold Roc-A-Wear for $205 million. Not too mention he's fucking one of the hottest girls walking the planet.  I can boil down 95% of Jay-Z's albums to this: "I used to sell crack...now I'm like a rich executive."  He's a very talented lyricist, but there's not much variety at all between each of his albums.  Guys like him and Eminem could theoretically rap about literally anything but choose to limit themselves by propping up these very one dimensional characters they've made.  I'm not rating him as a businessman or who he's banging...I'm rating him as an MC.

TheMojoPin

03-07-2007, 05:27 PM

<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=WiNwTL0HQRI" target="_blank">We need more songs with this many great MC's working together...</a>

thelyonhart

03-07-2007, 05:36 PM

only one comes to mind...<a href="http://waytoohip.com/?p=122">The LyonHart</a>yeah... thats right... what up now?

TheMojoPin

03-07-2007, 05:37 PM

OK, this guy was a terrible name and I think he's Canadian...and no, It's not Snow...but my God, his flow is inhuman:<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=A7aBAewIKQo" target="_blank">Meet Abdominal.</a>

TheGameHHH

03-07-2007, 06:03 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: Guys like Eminem and Jay-Z really frustrate me because they clearly have monster talent as MC's, but it seems like they're willfully limiting themselves. Eminem's first 2 albums are awesome but he's been stuck on repeat since then..."I hate my wife, I hate my mom, I was poor and white, American blames me for everything"...repeat ad nauseum. And he's a HORRIBLE producer who thinks he can do better than Dre.How is Jay-Z, in any aspect of life and/or art "limiting himself?" His last album, despite what was said in this thread prior, was very good not to mention his list of classic hip-hop albums. He is President of Def Jam and just sold Roc-A-Wear for $205 million. Not too mention he's fucking one of the hottest girls walking the planet. I can boil down 95% of Jay-Z's albums to this: "I used to sell crack...now I'm like a rich executive." He's a very talented lyricist, but there's not much variety at all between each of his albums. Guys like him and Eminem could theoretically rap about literally anything but choose to limit themselves by propping up these very one dimensional characters they've made. I'm not rating him as a businessman or who he's banging...I'm rating him as an MC.ok, i understand you're point but i choose to look at it like this: Yes, Jay-Z used to sell crack and now he's super rich. But when you write lyrics in hip-hop those lyrics are very reflective of who you are both past and present. You can't write about other people, you write about yourself and your life. What you saw in the streets, your past livin on the block, and what you've become, etc.......When you've got insane amounts of wealth, your life becomes very limited in terms of what you can say on wax. You can not theoretically rap about anything, as you put it. Jay-Z's albums definatly touch the topics of selling crack and being rich but that's far from all he says. To say that's all he talks about is really an injustice.

TheMojoPin

03-07-2007, 06:16 PM

TheGameHHH wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: Guys like Eminem and Jay-Z really frustrate me because they clearly have monster talent as MC's, but it seems like they're willfully limiting themselves. Eminem's first 2 albums are awesome but he's been stuck on repeat since then..."I hate my wife, I hate my mom, I was poor and white, American blames me for everything"...repeat ad nauseum. And he's a HORRIBLE producer who thinks he can do better than Dre.How is Jay-Z, in any aspect of life and/or art "limiting himself?" His last album, despite what was said in this thread prior, was very good not to mention his list of classic hip-hop albums. He is President of Def Jam and just sold Roc-A-Wear for $205 million. Not too mention he's fucking one of the hottest girls walking the planet. I can boil down 95% of Jay-Z's albums to this: "I used to sell crack...now I'm like a rich executive." He's a very talented lyricist, but there's not much variety at all between each of his albums. Guys like him and Eminem could theoretically rap about literally anything but choose to limit themselves by propping up these very one dimensional characters they've made. I'm not rating him as a businessman or who he's banging...I'm rating him as an MC.ok, i understand you're point but i choose to look at it like this: Yes, Jay-Z used to sell crack and now he's super rich. But when you write lyrics in hip-hop those lyrics are very reflective of who you are both past and present. You can't write about other people, you write about yourself and your life. What you saw in the streets, your past livin on the block, and what you've become, etc.......When you've got insane amounts of wealth, your life becomes very limited in terms of what you can say on wax. You can not theoretically rap about anything, as you put it. Jay-Z's albums definatly touch the topics of selling crack and being rich but that's far from all he says. To say that's all he talks about is really an injustice.  I'm not saying he can't rap about what he knows...I'm saying he is limiting the scope of his lyrics.  When I can think of at least a hundred other MC's who take the same type of "limited life" and turn it into something incredible and varied again and again, it makes Jay-Z look not all that impressive.Just compare Ready to Die to anything Jay-Z's done.  Biggie took the same kind of life...selling crack...and turn it into this crazy, epic concept album.  Jay-Z's never done anything even close to that outside of "99 Problems."  The best rappers CAN rap about "anything," and I think Jay-Z could if he wanted to.

Gvac

03-07-2007, 06:18 PM

bigtim666

03-07-2007, 06:20 PM

LLeader you hit it right on boss Biggie is best all time

TheGameHHH

03-07-2007, 06:26 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: Guys like Eminem and Jay-Z really frustrate me because they clearly have monster talent as MC's, but it seems like they're willfully limiting themselves. Eminem's first 2 albums are awesome but he's been stuck on repeat since then..."I hate my wife, I hate my mom, I was poor and white, American blames me for everything"...repeat ad nauseum. And he's a HORRIBLE producer who thinks he can do better than Dre.How is Jay-Z, in any aspect of life and/or art "limiting himself?" His last album, despite what was said in this thread prior, was very good not to mention his list of classic hip-hop albums. He is President of Def Jam and just sold Roc-A-Wear for $205 million. Not too mention he's fucking one of the hottest girls walking the planet. I can boil down 95% of Jay-Z's albums to this: "I used to sell crack...now I'm like a rich executive." He's a very talented lyricist, but there's not much variety at all between each of his albums. Guys like him and Eminem could theoretically rap about literally anything but choose to limit themselves by propping up these very one dimensional characters they've made. I'm not rating him as a businessman or who he's banging...I'm rating him as an MC.ok, i understand you're point but i choose to look at it like this: Yes, Jay-Z used to sell crack and now he's super rich. But when you write lyrics in hip-hop those lyrics are very reflective of who you are both past and present. You can't write about other people, you write about yourself and your life. What you saw in the streets, your past livin on the block, and what you've become, etc.......When you've got insane amounts of wealth, your life becomes very limited in terms of what you can say on wax. You can not theoretically rap about anything, as you put it. Jay-Z's albums definatly touch the topics of selling crack and being rich but that's far from all he says. To say that's all he talks about is really an injustice. I'm not saying he can't rap about what he knows...I'm saying he is limiting the scope of his lyrics. When I can think of at least a hundred other MC's who take the same type of "limited life" and turn it into something incredible and varied again and again, it makes Jay-Z look not all that impressive.Just compare Ready to Die to anything Jay-Z's done. Biggie took the same kind of life...selling crack...and turn it into this crazy, epic concept album. Jay-Z's never done anything even close to that outside of "99 Problems." The best rappers CAN rap about "anything," and I think Jay-Z could if he wanted to.i bet if B.I.G. were alive, you'd make the same argument about him. B.I.G. didn't live nearly long enough, it doesnt make his work less impressive, but it limits his life experiences in terms of what he could say. you can tell he's a different rapper on life after death then he was on ready to die.

TheMojoPin

03-07-2007, 06:32 PM

TheGameHHH wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: Guys like Eminem and Jay-Z really frustrate me because they clearly have monster talent as MC's, but it seems like they're willfully limiting themselves. Eminem's first 2 albums are awesome but he's been stuck on repeat since then..."I hate my wife, I hate my mom, I was poor and white, American blames me for everything"...repeat ad nauseum. And he's a HORRIBLE producer who thinks he can do better than Dre.How is Jay-Z, in any aspect of life and/or art "limiting himself?" His last album, despite what was said in this thread prior, was very good not to mention his list of classic hip-hop albums. He is President of Def Jam and just sold Roc-A-Wear for $205 million. Not too mention he's fucking one of the hottest girls walking the planet. I can boil down 95% of Jay-Z's albums to this: "I used to sell crack...now I'm like a rich executive." He's a very talented lyricist, but there's not much variety at all between each of his albums. Guys like him and Eminem could theoretically rap about literally anything but choose to limit themselves by propping up these very one dimensional characters they've made. I'm not rating him as a businessman or who he's banging...I'm rating him as an MC.ok, i understand you're point but i choose to look at it like this: Yes, Jay-Z used to sell crack and now he's super rich. But when you write lyrics in hip-hop those lyrics are very reflective of who you are both past and present. You can't write about other people, you write about yourself and your life. What you saw in the streets, your past livin on the block, and what you've become, etc.......When you've got insane amounts of wealth, your life becomes very limited in terms of what you can say on wax. You can not theoretically rap about anything, as you put it. Jay-Z's albums definatly touch the topics of selling crack and being rich but that's far from all he says. To say that's all he talks about is really an injustice. I'm not saying he can't rap about what he knows...I'm saying he is limiting the scope of his lyrics. When I can think of at least a hundred other MC's who take the same type of "limited life" and turn it into something incredible and varied again and again, it makes Jay-Z look not all that impressive.Just compare Ready to Die to anything Jay-Z's done. Biggie took the same kind of life...selling crack...and turn it into this crazy, epic concept album. Jay-Z's never done anything even close to that outside of "99 Problems." The best rappers CAN rap about "anything," and I think Jay-Z could if he wanted to.i bet if B.I.G. were alive, you'd make the same argument about him. B.I.G. didn't live nearly long enough, it doesnt make his work less impressive, but it limits his life experiences in terms of what he could say. you can tell he's a different rapper on life after death then he was on ready to die.  True.  But at the same time, Jay-Z's never managed anything even close to Ready to Die.

bobrobot

03-07-2007, 06:41 PM

Rammellzee<img src="http://www.artpool.hu/Al/al07/kepek/Alinovi4.jpg" border="0" width="300" height="290" /><img src="http://www.petitemort.org/issue01/img/02b_06.jpg" border="0" width="210" height="304" />

This message was edited by bobogolem on 3-7-07 @ 10:43 PM

shittyhambrgers

03-07-2007, 06:43 PM

lleeder wrote: I just was quoting the Canibus song. You can throw Tupac and Big L in the discussion too.thats why i laughed when i heard that wack ass verse,that shit was the worst rhyme i ever heard in my life...cuz the greatest rapper of all time died on march 9th. CANIBUS rules! 

This message was edited by shittyhambrgers on 3-7-07 @ 10:47 PM

bigtim666

03-07-2007, 06:44 PM

their isn't a rapper today who could hold a candel to B.I.G,  he told a story in very vivid way.  You could see everything he was speaking about he didn't make up his own words He had a very good vocabulary

shittyhambrgers

03-07-2007, 06:45 PM

Bossanova wrote: <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bd/Talib_Kweli_Quality.jpg" border="0" alt="Image:Talib Kweli Quality.jpg" width="300" height="300" /> fuck yes.

shittyhambrgers

03-07-2007, 06:48 PM

<img src="http://www.theblazz.com/images/interviews/necro.jpg" border="0" width="200" height="198" /><img src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0001WJNC8.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg" border="0" width="160" height="160" />underground heads know.

newport king

03-07-2007, 07:15 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: True.  But at the same time, Jay-Z's never managed anything even close to Ready to Die.i would submit reasonable doubt or the blueprint are FAR superior to ready to die.

reillyluck

03-07-2007, 07:22 PM

BoondockSaint wrote: <img src="http://www.tubafrenzy.org/weblog/archives/Rakim.jpg" border="0" width="235" height="243" /> im leaning towards him too.

TheGameHHH

03-07-2007, 07:31 PM

newport king wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: True. But at the same time, Jay-Z's never managed anything even close to Ready to Die.i would submit reasonable doubt or the blueprint are FAR superior to ready to die.they are on par, they are not far superior.

BoondockSaint

03-07-2007, 07:33 PM

reillyluck wrote: BoondockSaint wrote: <img src="http://www.tubafrenzy.org/weblog/archives/Rakim.jpg" border="0" width="235" height="243" /> im leaning towards him too.I take 7 MC's put em in a line And add 7 more brothas who think they can rhyme Well, it'll take 7 more before I go for mine And that's 21 MC's ate up at the same time

nolarat5

03-07-2007, 07:48 PM

REDMAN                 He lets the monkey out, while yellin fuck you in da mall            I'll be dat hah hah.

newport king

03-07-2007, 07:50 PM

TheGameHHH wrote: newport king wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: True. But at the same time, Jay-Z's never managed anything even close to Ready to Die.i would submit reasonable doubt or the blueprint are FAR superior to ready to die.they are on par, they are not far superior. what was the hottest shit off ready to die?? i'll give you gimme the loot... after that, what?  juicy?? please. listen to the takeover 1 more time.

ignatiusj

03-07-2007, 07:52 PM

why is everyone sleeping on q-tip. easily the best mc of all time.

nolarat5

03-07-2007, 07:55 PM

KMD        Was last album ever released?

TheGameHHH

03-07-2007, 07:56 PM

newport king wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: newport king wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: True. But at the same time, Jay-Z's never managed anything even close to Ready to Die.i would submit reasonable doubt or the blueprint are FAR superior to ready to die.they are on par, they are not far superior. what was the hottest shit off ready to die?? i'll give you gimme the loot... after that, what? juicy?? please. listen to the takeover 1 more time. um, things done changed, one more chance, and the what come to mind right off the bat. ive heard the takeover a million times, i play it almost daily on my i-pod.

Wallower

03-07-2007, 07:57 PM

newport king

03-07-2007, 08:00 PM

TheGameHHH wrote: newport king wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: newport king wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: True. But at the same time, Jay-Z's never managed anything even close to Ready to Die.i would submit reasonable doubt or the blueprint are FAR superior to ready to die.they are on par, they are not far superior. what was the hottest shit off ready to die?? i'll give you gimme the loot... after that, what? juicy?? please. listen to the takeover 1 more time. um, things done changed, one more chance, and the what come to mind right off the bat. ive heard the takeover a million times, i play it almost daily on my i-pod.  one more chance?? ok i can't argue this point anymore. and things done changed?? is that a fucking harp in the background?

TheGameHHH

03-07-2007, 08:11 PM

newport king wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: newport king wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: newport king wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: True. But at the same time, Jay-Z's never managed anything even close to Ready to Die.i would submit reasonable doubt or the blueprint are FAR superior to ready to die.they are on par, they are not far superior. what was the hottest shit off ready to die?? i'll give you gimme the loot... after that, what? juicy?? please. listen to the takeover 1 more time. um, things done changed, one more chance, and the what come to mind right off the bat. ive heard the takeover a million times, i play it almost daily on my i-pod. one more chance?? ok i can't argue this point anymore. and things done changed?? is that a fucking harp in the background? yes one more chance! how do you not love 'when it comes to sex im similla to the thrilla in manilla.....honeys call me bigga, the condom filla'? whatever dude, u like blueprint, i got it

DoubleJ

03-07-2007, 08:11 PM

<img src="http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k295/jjc435/big_tupac.jpg" border="0" width="230" height="171" /> Biggie and Tupac were legendary. Very tragic.

Fezticle98

03-07-2007, 08:15 PM

No love for Bushwick Bill or Tim Dog?http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6208/81740vl1.jpghttp://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4558/69477286rx5.jpg

PapaBear

03-07-2007, 08:17 PM

DoubleJ wrote: <img src="http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k295/jjc435/big_tupac.jpg" border="0" width="230" height="171" /> Biggie and Tupac were legendary. Very tragic. I remember the night Tupac died, one of my bar buddies (coke dealer) said Biggie would be dead in less than a year.

blackiehugehand

03-07-2007, 08:24 PM

top 5 ever in no order. Big L, Mos Def, Big Pun, Eminem, Krs.      Best freestyler- supernat

Kevin

03-07-2007, 08:32 PM

PapaBear wrote: DoubleJ wrote: <img src="http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k295/jjc435/big_tupac.jpg" border="0" width="230" height="171" /> Biggie and Tupac were legendary. Very tragic. I remember the night Tupac "died", one of my bar buddies (coke dealer) said Biggie would be dead in less than a year. Fixed it!!

shodan

03-07-2007, 08:34 PM

Chuck D.  Just listen to It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back and argue with it...

newport king

03-07-2007, 09:37 PM

TheGameHHH wrote: newport king wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: newport king wrote: TheGameHHH wrote: newport king wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: True. But at the same time, Jay-Z's never managed anything even close to Ready to Die.i would submit reasonable doubt or the blueprint are FAR superior to ready to die.they are on par, they are not far superior. what was the hottest shit off ready to die?? i'll give you gimme the loot... after that, what? juicy?? please. listen to the takeover 1 more time. um, things done changed, one more chance, and the what come to mind right off the bat. ive heard the takeover a million times, i play it almost daily on my i-pod. one more chance?? ok i can't argue this point anymore. and things done changed?? is that a fucking harp in the background? yes one more chance! how do you not love 'when it comes to sex im similla to the thrilla in manilla.....honeys call me bigga, the condom filla'? whatever dude, u like blueprint, i got iti'd like it if i wanted to fuck him sure.

Earlshog

03-08-2007, 05:44 AM

foodcourtdruide wrote: Gang Starr or Chuck D. If we're going west coast Ice Cube. I defy anyone to name 5 better rap albums than The Predator (I know someone will name 5 they like better, but consider yourself defied)! Gang Starr is not an MC I assume you mean Guru I'm not breaking any ground when I say who is the greatest MC is all a matter of opinion. Just like who is the best guitar player, frontman, drummer etc, its fun drunk talk. A lot of great names are being thrown around here. For my money its B.I.G. without typing out a manifesto I'll simply say he is an amazing story teller, when he flows he really puts you in the moment.

foodcourtdruide

03-08-2007, 05:47 AM

Earlshog wrote: foodcourtdruide wrote: Gang Starr or Chuck D. If we're going west coast Ice Cube. I defy anyone to name 5 better rap albums than The Predator (I know someone will name 5 they like better, but consider yourself defied)! Gang Starr is not an MC I assume you mean Guru I'm not breaking any ground when I say who is the greatest MC is all a matter of opinion. Just like who is the best guitar player, frontman, drummer etc, its fun drunk talk. A lot of great names are being thrown around here. For my money its B.I.G. without typing out a manifesto I'll simply say he is an amazing story teller, when he flows he really puts you in the moment. Yes, of course I mean Guru. I'd say the best voice in rap.

yomudder21

03-08-2007, 05:51 AM

fezticle98 wrote: No love for Bushwick Bill or Tim Dog?<img src="http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6208/81740vl1.jpg" border="0" />  Is that Earl on the left?

foodcourtdruide

03-08-2007, 05:52 AM

bigtim666 wrote: their isn't a rapper today who could hold a candel to B.I.G,  he told a story in very vivid way.  You could see everything he was speaking about he didn't make up his own words He had a very good vocabulary Totally disagree. Immortal Technique, Common, The Roots are very good and very intelligent.

Earlshog

03-08-2007, 05:57 AM

foodcourtdruide wrote: Earlshog wrote: foodcourtdruide wrote: Gang Starr or Chuck D. If we're going west coast Ice Cube. I defy anyone to name 5 better rap albums than The Predator (I know someone will name 5 they like better, but consider yourself defied)! Gang Starr is not an MC I assume you mean Guru I'm not breaking any ground when I say who is the greatest MC is all a matter of opinion. Just like who is the best guitar player, frontman, drummer etc, its fun drunk talk. A lot of great names are being thrown around here. For my money its B.I.G. without typing out a manifesto I'll simply say he is an amazing story teller, when he flows he really puts you in the moment. Yes, of course I mean Guru. I'd say the best voice in rap.Definitely an underrated MC.... You nailed it on the voice, he was also a great lyricist

Bob Impact

03-08-2007, 06:02 AM

foodcourtdruide wrote: bigtim666 wrote: their isn't a rapper today who could hold a candel to B.I.G, he told a story in very vivid way. You could see everything he was speaking about he didn't make up his own words He had a very good vocabulary Totally disagree. Immortal Technique, Common, The Roots are very good and very intelligent.  The Coup anyone? hate the communism but they're talented as hell.

PhishHead

03-08-2007, 06:04 AM

I have another suggestion, he is not a traditional rapper per se but he has been referred to as Americas best non hip-hop lyricist by New Yorker and actually by a few hiphop magazines(source being one, and i think vibe mentioned him as well) is John Darnielle.But going the traditional route, I am highly surprised no one has mentioned Saul Williams

Golfman

03-08-2007, 06:04 AM

Tough question, kinda dig (dug) Spice1, Bone, my favs is porbably 2Pac though.

ChimneyFish

03-08-2007, 06:05 AM

Biggie........was a faggot.    #1 - Guru<img src="http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/luxa1/guru.gif" border="0" width="200" height="201" />#2 - Black Thought<img src="http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/luxa1/ae-roots4.jpg" border="0" width="400" height="284" />Conversation complete.

F1Gm3nT

03-08-2007, 06:14 AM

Ok... I have to come out my cave for this one Whoever said Method Man Method Man for greatest rapper... should never EVER EEEEEVER have the right to talk about rap... nor listen to it in public.... you should only be permitted to listen to it in your basement... sorry that was just a stupid suggestionand yeah Ghost Face is mos def up there for the best of teh WU... he's tied with GZAChuck D... he was good... but nowhere near top 5... top 15 could beKrs One (Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone)... mos def top 5 was and I still think he is great but not just the greatest... tot be greatest you must be able to great in both underground and main stream to me his style doesn't evolve into today's main stream... it did at one point at then... he just died out... The Bridge is OVERAs far as Rakim... don't know what ever became of him... he just died outNAS is another one that is great but there is talent that supersedes hisPeople forgot to mention GURU... he's another great... not greatest yo... Biggie strait up was the greatest... he had every style of hip hop/rap down packed tight... the way he attacked rhymes... his flow... he was always changing it up... he was hip hop evolving... he brought that old school and made it feel new school because he would put his own touch... he brought back that story telling style that was at that point an starting to be come an extinct art. Both on his commercial radio hit joints and those that the radio stations would not touch... he was just straight up fire... he was and is recognized in both the commercial and underground and the best by a great majority

Knowledged_one

03-08-2007, 06:18 AM

Andre 3000No one has changed their style up on every album and been succesful like himFrom 94's Southernplayalisticfunkycadillacmuzak to 06's Idlewild plus what about ol dirty he was great as well

drjoek

03-08-2007, 06:24 AM

The best thing either Tupac or Biggie did was get killed. They are succesful beyond their wildest dreams while taking a dirt nap.One questionHow do they keep making all these new albums while being dead??flame away....

drjoek

03-08-2007, 06:25 AM

One more thingI thought everyone was saying the rappers name was  Big AAA !!my bad

busybeeman

03-08-2007, 06:27 AM

Brother Rap, of course.<img src="http://www.kalamu.com/bol/wp-content/content/images/james%20brown%2001.jpg" border="0" alt="james brown 01.jpg" title="james brown 01.jpg" hspace="5" width="274" height="400" />

Servo

03-08-2007, 06:31 AM

I'll throw another name out there, for the sake of argument... Jeru the Damaja.  Never hit big commercially, but so goddam talented on a mic.  Definitely in my Top 5.

patrick187

03-08-2007, 06:46 AM

BIG sounded like he had a pork chop stuck in his mouth. But he did perfect the chorus: "what? uh huh. what? uh huh. what.Without BIG, rappers like Little John might never have come up with such profound lyrics as: what? yeah! what? yeah? What?

grlNIN

03-08-2007, 06:54 AM

I skimmed this thread so if any of this has been said previously, feel free to ignore me.I see a lot of Wu Tang signs being thrown up so i'm assuming this "greatest rapper" includes acts as well as just a single. So in relation to that has anyoen mentioned ATCQ? If not i shake my head at all of you.KRS-One and Rakim are usually the "go to" guys whenever lists like this are made. Has anyone(and im sure mojo has) considered MF Doom?Tupac was a great lyricist but as far as MC skills go he couldn't even touch most the people who came before and a lot around his time,

ralphbxny

03-08-2007, 07:10 AM

1. chuck d2. Rakim3. Biggie4.Krs one5.Tupachon men...guru (and because he lived next door to me in NJ)  As far as a hip hop act1. NWA2.Run DMC3.Cypress Hill4.Wu Tang5. Tribe called questhon mention-   beastie boys and get fresh crew I tend to be old school. Most of these guys today stink. I remember when underground was Wu tang, Queen latifa and other stuff. I never thought hip hop would be old.

This message was edited by ralphbxny on 3-8-07 @ 11:12 AM

Earlshog

03-08-2007, 07:28 AM

Hottub wrote: Method Man. he isn't even the best rapper on the wire... <img src="http://www.the411online.com/fredro.jpg" border="0" width="278" height="248" />

ChimneyFish

03-08-2007, 07:32 AM

Knowledged_one wrote: Andre 3000No one has changed their style up on every album and been succesful like himFrom 94's Southernplayalisticfunkycadillacmuzak to 06's Idlewild plus what about ol dirty he was great as wellCan't believe I forgot about him.Phenomenal.And I loved Ol' Dirty, too.  <img src="http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/luxa1/Odb_welfare.jpg" border="0" width="300" height="293" />Great album.

ralphbxny

03-08-2007, 07:38 AM

ChimneyFish wrote: Knowledged_one wrote: Andre 3000No one has changed their style up on every album and been succesful like himFrom 94's Southernplayalisticfunkycadillacmuzak to 06's Idlewild plus what about ol dirty he was great as wellCan't believe I forgot about him.Phenomenal.And I loved Ol' Dirty, too.  <img src="http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/luxa1/Odb_welfare.jpg" border="0" width="300" height="293" />Great album.That Cd was being sung by my dad and friend who werent hip hop fans. Shame on a nigga who tries to run games on a nigga!!

Servo

03-08-2007, 07:40 AM

Earlshog wrote:he isn't even the best rapper on the wire... <img src="http://www.the411online.com/fredro.jpg" border="0" width="278" height="248" />Nice!  How great was that scene where they beat his ass in the interrogation room?

Earlshog

03-08-2007, 07:44 AM

Tom Servo wrote: Earlshog wrote:he isn't even the best rapper on the wire... <img src="http://www.the411online.com/fredro.jpg" border="0" width="278" height="248" />Nice!  How great was that scene where they beat his ass in the interrogation room?haha...  how can you not love a scene that repeatedly uses the word cunt eater

ChimneyFish

03-08-2007, 07:51 AM

Tom Servo wrote: I'll throw another name out there, for the sake of argument... Jeru the Damaja.  Never hit big commercially, but so goddam talented on a mic.  Definitely in my Top 5. <img src="http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/luxa1/sunrises.jpg" border="0" width="300" height="302" /> One of the most lyrically tight albums out there.

giannidesk

03-08-2007, 07:53 AM

Did anyone mention the great Slick Rick ?

Rockvillejoe

03-08-2007, 07:56 AM

an original, the original: bob dylan

busybeeman

03-08-2007, 07:57 AM

busybeeman wrote: Brother Rap, of course.<img src="http://www.kalamu.com/bol/wp-content/content/images/james%20brown%2001.jpg" border="0" alt="james brown 01.jpg" title="james brown 01.jpg" hspace="5" width="274" height="400" />  James Brown   "Living in America"Yeah, uh! Get up, now! Ow! Knock ya OUT! Super highways, coast to coast, easy to get anywhere On the transcontinental overload, just slide behind the wheel How does it feel When there's no destination - that's too far And somewhere on the way, you might find out who you are Living in America - eye to eye, station to station Living in America - hand to hand, across the nation Living in America - got to have a celebration Rock my soul Smokestack, fatback, many miles of railroad track All night radio, keep on runnin' through your rock 'n' roll soul All night diners keep you awake, hey, on black coffee and a hard roll You might have to walk the fine line, you might take the hard line But everybody's working overtime Living in America - eye to eye, station to station Living in America - hand to hand, across the nation Living in America - got to have a celebration I live in America, help me out, but I live in America, wait a minute You might not be looking for the promised land, but you might find it anyway Under one of those old familiar names Like New Orleans (New Orleans), Detroit City (Detroit City), Dallas (Dallas) Pittsburg P.A. (Pittsburg P.A.), New York City (New York City) Kansas City (Kansas City), Atlanta (Atlanta), Chicago and L.A. Living in America - hit me Living in America - yeah, I walk in and out Living in America I live in America - state lines, gonna make the prime, that I live in America - hey, I know what it means, I Living in America - Eddie Murphy, eat your heart out Living in America - hit me, I said now, eye to eye, station to station Living in America - so nice, with your bare self Living in America - I feel good!

yomudder21

03-08-2007, 08:00 AM

When is the Rapper going to be back on the show.....................Ron and Rapper show '07

Coach_Mac

03-08-2007, 03:40 PM

Humpty...pronounced with an umpty.

Knowledged_one

03-09-2007, 05:24 AM

ralphbxny wrote: ChimneyFish wrote: Knowledged_one wrote: Andre 3000No one has changed their style up on every album and been succesful like himFrom 94's Southernplayalisticfunkycadillacmuzak to 06's Idlewild plus what about ol dirty he was great as wellCan't believe I forgot about him.Phenomenal.And I loved Ol' Dirty, too.  <img src="http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/luxa1/Odb_welfare.jpg" border="0" width="300" height="293" />Great album.That Cd was being sung by my dad and friend who werent hip hop fans. Shame on a nigga who tries to run games on a nigga!! See i liked the:  wicked women putting period blood in stew dont that make the stew witches brewThat whole album is beyond sillyAnd for the guy who made a top list of performers and didnt include Outkast is crazy and not crazy like a fox

Earlshog

03-09-2007, 05:31 AM

B.I.G. thumbs down (hacky I know) to 65 the rhyme... They have been playing some old school horseshit for a half hour now.. NO BIG... I actually had to flip on terristial radio... Power 105.1 has got it right...

spadanko

03-09-2007, 05:48 AM

I can't believe it has been 10 years... ureal top 10 rappers of all time:1) Rakim 2) 2Pac 3) Biggie 4) Nas 5) Talib Kweli 6) Jay-Z 7) Gza 8) MF Doom 9) Black Thought 10) Dr. Dre

Don Stugots

03-09-2007, 05:56 AM

R.I.P Biggie Smalls

Knowledged_one

03-09-2007, 06:01 AM

spadanko wrote: I can't believe it has been 10 years... ureal top 10 rappers of all time:1) Rakim 2) 2Pac 3) Biggie 4) Nas 5) Talib Kweli 6) Jay-Z 7) Gza 8) MF Doom 9) Black Thought 10) Dr. Dre  I am guessing you havent heard the song im not a writer im a biter about Jay Z all of his lyrics are stolen from other rappers songs like Biggie, Rakim, WuTang, NasSeriously download that song and listen for yourself

TheMojoPin

03-09-2007, 06:03 AM

"How you livin', Biggie Smalls?"...

Earlshog

03-09-2007, 06:15 AM

Knowledged_one wrote: spadanko wrote: I can't believe it has been 10 years... ureal top 10 rappers of all time:1) Rakim 2) 2Pac 3) Biggie 4) Nas 5) Talib Kweli 6) Jay-Z 7) Gza 8) MF Doom 9) Black Thought 10) Dr. Dre  I am guessing you havent heard the song im not a writer im a biter about Jay Z all of his lyrics are stolen from other rappers songs like Biggie, Rakim, WuTang, NasSeriously download that song and listen for yourselfI'm not a biter I'm a writer For myself and others I say a B.I.G. verse I'm only biggin up my brother Biggin up my borough I'm big enough to do it I'm that thorough Plus I know my own flow is foolish So them rings and things you sing about Bring em out

Knowledged_one

03-09-2007, 06:23 AM

wrong songyou can hear the song on this website<a href="http://sfbayhiphopdj.tribe.net/thread/c9c47dc3-d527-4922-84b6-1fcbf0fe61dc">http://sfbayhiphopdj.tribe.net/thread/c9c47dc3-d527-4922-84b6-1fcbf0fe61dc</a>

Earlshog

03-09-2007, 06:40 AM

sampling / giving props to others by shouting out there verses... thats hip hop... he is not trying to hide anything... like he said hes big enough to do it... when biggie died he picked up the ball and ran with it... okay his last cd was garbage... so that and blueprint 2... other then that you really can't knock the guy

nate1000

03-09-2007, 06:42 AM

It's a tie:  <img src="http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/f/f2/270px-KarlaHomolkaPaulBernardo.jpg" border="0" width="270" height="198" /> Oh, RAPper. Nevermind.

Knowledged_one

03-09-2007, 06:50 AM

you can definetly knock him for not being originalstealing whole verses is no different then what mencia does with comediansI mean yeah he does have some talent but he blatantly stealing other versesalso Eminem should be on that listand Slick Rick

This message was edited by Knowledged_one on 3-9-07 @ 10:51 AM

Earlshog

03-09-2007, 07:02 AM

Knowledged_one wrote: you can definetly knock him for not being originalstealing whole verses is no different then what mencia does with comediansI mean yeah he does have some talent but he blatantly stealing other versesalso Eminem should be on that listand Slick RickThis message was edited by Knowledged_one on 3-9-07 @ 10:51 AM apples and oranges, if I can be a cliche slinging jiz bucket for a second ( I think I stole that from Norton)Taking someone's comedy bit and trying to pass it off as your own without giving any credit is not the same thing as using verses, that hip hop fans knows are someone's else's. He is not trying to take credit for creating the verse. He is showing respect. I'm the best rapper alive and I am spitting your verse. T

busybeeman

03-09-2007, 07:08 AM

<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/66/Koolisking.jpg" border="0" width="200" height="197" /> "I waswalkin' down the street Rockin' my beatClappin' my handsAnd stompin' my feetWhen I saw a young lady so neat and petiteShe wasSo sweetThat I Just had to meet her"   ---"Miss Microwave," Kool Moe Dee

spadanko

03-09-2007, 07:13 AM

Knowledged_one wrote: spadanko wrote: I can't believe it has been 10 years... ureal top 10 rappers of all time:1) Rakim 2) 2Pac 3) Biggie 4) Nas 5) Talib Kweli 6) Jay-Z 7) Gza 8) MF Doom 9) Black Thought 10) Dr. Dre  I am guessing you havent heard the song im not a writer im a biter about Jay Z all of his lyrics are stolen from other rappers songs like Biggie, Rakim, WuTang, NasSeriously download that song and listen for yourselfI know about Jigga and his ghost writing and what not.. I am basing it on Flow.. I thnk JIgga can flow with the best of them.. and yes I have heard the song.. it is damn funnyalso.. Eminem should be up there as well... his freestyles and flow are ridiculous

This message was edited by spadanko on 3-9-07 @ 11:14 AM

Earlshog

03-09-2007, 07:17 AM

busybeeman wrote: <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/66/Koolisking.jpg" border="0" width="200" height="197" /> "I waswalkin' down the street Rockin' my beatClappin' my handsAnd stompin' my feetWhen I saw a young lady so neat and petiteShe wasSo sweetThat I Just had to meet her"   ---"Miss Microwave," Kool Moe DeeBack in the 60's our brothers and siters were hangedhow can you gang bang I never ever ran from the klu klux clanand I shouldn't have to run from a black man cause thats....

busybeeman

03-09-2007, 07:17 AM

<img src="http://moov.netvigator.com/mposter/album/l/VAWM00001597A_l.jpg" border="0" width="118" height="118" />  Milk & Gizmo"MC's around people call me MilkWhen I'm bustin' up a party I feel no guilt..Gizmo's cuttin' up for theeSuckas that's down with me"..."I stole your girl while you was in prisonJailed for MC assaultYou was jealous, it's all your fault..." ..."Would you stop schemin' and lookin' hardI got a great big bodyguard soStep up if you wanna get hurt..."

ralphbxny

03-09-2007, 07:24 AM

Knowledged_one wrote: ralphbxny wrote: ChimneyFish wrote: Knowledged_one wrote: Andre 3000No one has changed their style up on every album and been succesful like himFrom 94's Southernplayalisticfunkycadillacmuzak to 06's Idlewild plus what about ol dirty he was great as wellCan't believe I forgot about him.Phenomenal.And I loved Ol' Dirty, too.  <img src="http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/luxa1/Odb_welfare.jpg" border="0" width="300" height="293" />Great album.That Cd was being sung by my dad and friend who werent hip hop fans. Shame on a nigga who tries to run games on a nigga!! See i liked the:  wicked women putting period blood in stew dont that make the stew witches brewThat whole album is beyond sillyAnd for the guy who made a top list of performers and didnt include Outkast is crazy and not crazy like a foxThe only outkast cd I liked was the one with ms jackson. The whole thing was a work of art and I believe they won the Oscar for the next album as a makeup. I am not a fan of any of the other stuff they did other than the one CD.

hedges

03-09-2007, 07:27 AM

Q-Tip

Earlshog

03-09-2007, 07:28 AM

ralphbxny wrote: Knowledged_one wrote: ralphbxny wrote: ChimneyFish wrote: Knowledged_one wrote: Andre 3000No one has changed their style up on every album and been succesful like himFrom 94's Southernplayalisticfunkycadillacmuzak to 06's Idlewild plus what about ol dirty he was great as wellCan't believe I forgot about him.Phenomenal.And I loved Ol' Dirty, too.  <img src="http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/luxa1/Odb_welfare.jpg" border="0" width="300" height="293" />Great album.That Cd was being sung by my dad and friend who werent hip hop fans. Shame on a nigga who tries to run games on a nigga!! See i liked the:  wicked women putting period blood in stew dont that make the stew witches brewThat whole album is beyond sillyAnd for the guy who made a top list of performers and didnt include Outkast is crazy and not crazy like a foxThe only outkast cd I liked was the one with ms jackson. The whole thing was a work of art and I believe they won the Oscar for the next album as a makeup. I am not a fan of any of the other stuff they did other than the one CD.Stankonia is the name of the CD with Mrs Jackson

Knowledged_one

03-09-2007, 07:32 AM

I like everyone of their CD's but would have to say that ATLiens was their best

spadanko

03-09-2007, 07:36 AM

Knowledged_one wrote: I like everyone of their CD's but would have to say that ATLiens was their best ATLiens is amazing.. but Southernplayalysticcadillacfunkymusik is my favorite

TheMojoPin

03-09-2007, 08:16 AM

hedges wrote: Q-Tip No.I love the Abstract and I kill for Tribe, but they're definitely stronger together than apart.  Groups like them and Jurassic 5 and Slum Village are pretty fucking awesome, but the MC's work best with each other.  On their own they're not that special.  Q-Tip just has that Nasal Tone thing going on that helps him step out, but otherwise he's usually doing most of the same "this is my name" rhyming that's a step above the Beastie Boys.  Fun and good in a group, but not the greatest.

busybeeman

03-09-2007, 08:54 AM

Earlshog wrote: busybeeman wrote: <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/66/Koolisking.jpg" border="0" width="200" height="197" /> "I waswalkin' down the street Rockin' my beatClappin' my handsAnd stompin' my feetWhen I saw a young lady so neat and petiteShe wasSo sweetThat I Just had to meet her"   ---"Miss Microwave," Kool Moe DeeBack in the 60's our brothers and siters were hangedhow can you gang bang I never ever ran from the klu klux clanand I shouldn't have to run from a black man cause thats.... Mohandas Dewese (born <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/August_8" title="August 8">8 August</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/1962" title="1962">1962</a>), better known as Kool Moe Dee, was an <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/United_States" title="United States">American</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Old_school_hip_hop" title="Old school hip hop">old-school</a> rapper prominent in the late 1980s and early <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/1990s" title="1990s">'90s</a>. He was born in <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Manhattan" title="Manhattan">Manhattan</a>, <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/New_York_City" title="New York City">New York City</a>.In high school in the late 1970s, he met Special K and DJ Easy Lee. Kool Moe Dee joined with other rappers Special K and L.A. Sunshine as well as DJ Easy Lee to form the influential old school hip hop group the <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Treacherous_Three" title="Treacherous Three">Treacherous Three</a>. It is with The Treacherous Three that Kool Moe Dee performed his <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Freestyle_rap" title="Freestyle rap">freestyle</a>, on stage <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Roast" title="Roast">roast</a> of old school party rapper <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Busy_Bee_Starski" title="Busy Bee Starski">Busy Bee Starski</a>, a performance frequently cited as a pivotal moment in the development of the <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Battle_rap" title="Battle rap">battle rap</a>. he appeared in the breakdance cult-movie beat street in 1984. In 1986, Kool Moe Dee went solo, releasing a self-titled album.

torker

03-09-2007, 09:03 AM

John 'King of Da 'Burbz' Brown Ghetto Revival!

hedges

03-09-2007, 09:53 AM

Mojopin, your critique of my "best rapper of all times" -- Q-Tip was articlute and well-taken. Tribe Called Quest ensemble work was the shit and that's really what comes to my mind anyways.
Mojopin my computer is so slow,and I was going back to your previous postings on this site to see who your "best rapper of all times" was. I didn't get there because of my stupid computer so I missed it

Mojopin, who in you opinion is the "best rapper of all times?"

TheMojoPin

03-09-2007, 10:21 AM

hedges wrote: Mojopin, your critique of my "best rapper of all times" -- Q-Tip was articlute and well-taken. Tribe Called Quest ensemble work was the shit and that's really what comes to my mind anyways. Mojopin my computer is so slow,and I was going back to your previous postings on this site to see who your "best rapper of all times" was. I didn't get there because of my stupid computer so I missed it Mojopin, who in you opinion is the "best rapper of all times?" I'd put it up there between KRS-One and Rakim.  If there was a gun to my head, KRS-One would win...but just barely.

busybeeman

03-09-2007, 10:25 AM

Slick Rick "Treat Her Like A Prostitute""...the mailman's pants and the mailman's bags?"<img src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000024K3.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg" border="0" width="300" height="300" />

Jaysin

03-09-2007, 10:27 AM

Because even then.....I'm still number 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 KRS 1

BACH16207

03-09-2007, 10:41 AM

<div>Number 1: The Godfather of Wu-Tang...The RZA A.K.A. Bobby Digital. He is fucking up the whole shitital! "She used to have the body of model, her pussy as tight as a pharmaceutical bottle, now it could swallow an avocado and two 40oz bottle" </div>

tbonesteak

03-09-2007, 11:09 AM

I'm a big fan of KRS, Erik B and Rakim, Slick Rick and other pioneers of the rap game but I definitely wouldn't classify them as the "greatest" of all time since I don't think they're music really stands up to artists like Biggie and 2Pac and Jay-Z.  I can't go back and listen to a KRS album the way I would listen to Reasonable Doubt or Ready to Die.  It just doesn't hold up.  I think the sentimentalists who say that the early rappers were the greatest don't really get hip-hop any more and probably were never really fans to begin with.  They just have more of a sense of history and are probably disgusted with everything on radio today.  I could be wrong, but i get into arguments about this with people all the time.To me, despite the fact that I loved Biggie, I have to say that the greatest rapper of all time is 2pac.  The guy was fucking brilliant.  He made 10 times as many songs as Biggie.  And he was a fantastic poet, song writer and musician.  A close second would be Biggie.Out all the rappers still alive/performing today, Jay-Z has to be the greatest.  Album for album, he has delivered fantastic music.  Reasonable Doubt one of the best rap albums in history.  The Black Album, Blueprint and The Blueprint 2 were phenomenol.  And I thoroughly enjoyed In My Lifetime Vol. 1, 2 and 3.  I'll be the first to admit that Kingdom Come stunk.  But 1 bad album out of 10 or 12 is not bad.  Even the Roc-La-Familia album he did and the music to Streets is Watching is great.  Hands down the best rapper alive and he may end up the best rapper ever.After Jay-Z, I would add (in no particular order) Nas, Redman, Wu-Tang, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Common, The Roots, Outkast, Big Pun, Beatnuts, Tribe, De La, EPMD.  (By the way, Redman is an incredibly underrated artist.  He never gets the respect he deserves).