Captain America - Not So Dead [Archive]

BoondockSaint

03-07-2007, 04:54 AM

<img src="http://www.nydailynews.com/images/editors/rope0307.jpg" border="0" width="450" height="398" /><a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/story/503132p-424376c.html" target="_blank">Sorry GVAC.</a>

IamFogHat

03-07-2007, 04:59 AM

Big deal.  They'll bring him back to life just like every other comic book hero they kill off.

Sheeplovr

03-07-2007, 05:05 AM

way to be a spoiler fuck marvel and there press releases why read these books if there going to give away whats going to happen in crappy news papers

Don Stugots

03-07-2007, 05:10 AM

utterbullshit.  characters like Capt. America and Superman shouldnt be killed off like NightCrawler.  Show some respect.  i think i may cry. 

Sheeplovr

03-07-2007, 05:17 AM

Don Stugots wrote: utterbullshit. characters like Capt. America and Superman shouldnt be killed off like NightCrawler. Show some respect. i think i may cry.  if you read civil war youd want him dead to

Don Stugots

03-07-2007, 05:18 AM

Sheeplovr wrote: Don Stugots wrote: utterbullshit. characters like Capt. America and Superman shouldnt be killed off like NightCrawler. Show some respect. i think i may cry. if you read civil war youd want him dead to  what happened?  i stopped reading it.  PM me details please sir.

Sheeplovr

03-07-2007, 05:24 AM

Don Stugots wrote: Sheeplovr wrote: Don Stugots wrote: utterbullshit. characters like Capt. America and Superman shouldnt be killed off like NightCrawler. Show some respect. i think i may cry. if you read civil war youd want him dead to what happened? i stopped reading it. PM me details please sir.  furthr more they should kill Tony Stark to and Reed Richards

bobrobot

03-07-2007, 05:48 AM

I heard that they'll resurrect Captain America WITH his original sidekick, Bucky, who will have a sex change and the new book will be called...<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/bobogolem/CaptAmericaTennille.jpg" border="0" width="500" height="434" />

EliSnow

03-07-2007, 05:52 AM

Sheeplovr wrote: Don Stugots wrote: utterbullshit. characters like Capt. America and Superman shouldnt be killed off like NightCrawler. Show some respect. i think i may cry.  if you read civil war youd want him dead toI read it.  I didn't want him dead.

Sheeplovr

03-07-2007, 06:02 AM

EliSnow wrote: Sheeplovr wrote: Don Stugots wrote: utterbullshit. characters like Capt. America and Superman shouldnt be killed off like NightCrawler. Show some respect. i think i may cry. if you read civil war youd want him dead toI read it. I didn't want him dead.  i want them all dead and make wanda come back and reset the world

Dougie Brootal

03-07-2007, 06:05 AM

it only makes sense! bush killed america, marvel kills captain america! 

TheMojoPin

03-07-2007, 07:16 AM

That article is so horribly written.  Is it real?  If it is, apparently they only put waterheads on the comic beat.

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EliSnow

03-07-2007, 07:18 AM

It's real.  I read the hard paper copy of it in my morning paper.

ralphbxny

03-07-2007, 07:25 AM

I miss captain america!!He was the best!!

torker

03-07-2007, 07:27 AM

Now he's a court jester with a broken heart

DarkHippie

03-07-2007, 07:36 AM

He's only mostly dead

Tenbatsuzen

03-07-2007, 07:43 AM

Sheeplovr wrote: EliSnow wrote: Sheeplovr wrote: Don Stugots wrote: utterbullshit. characters like Capt. America and Superman shouldnt be killed off like NightCrawler. Show some respect. i think i may cry. if you read civil war youd want him dead toI read it. I didn't want him dead.  i want them all dead and make wanda come back and reset the world   "no more sheepy"

Tenbatsuzen

03-07-2007, 07:43 AM

BTW, they've frozen him in a block of ice, turned him into a werewolf, and turned him into a chick.  Death ain't no thang.

Basedow

03-07-2007, 07:44 AM

DarkHippie wrote: He's only mostly dead mostly.....<img src="http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/ESDPHOTO/random/18456578.jpg" border="0" />

Tenbatsuzen

03-07-2007, 07:49 AM

Basedow wrote: DarkHippie wrote: He's only mostly dead mostly.....<img src="http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/ESDPHOTO/random/18456578.jpg" border="0" width="2" height="1" /> Have fun storming the castle, boys  

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Death Metal Moe

03-07-2007, 08:16 AM

Captain America was always the most boring character in the Marvel universe in my opinion.  And it's a stupid story, he'll be back.

EliSnow

03-07-2007, 08:26 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Captain America was always the most boring character in the Marvel universe in my opinion.  And it's a stupid story, he'll be back.In the last two years, he's gotten a lot better.  Ed Brubaker the writer has borrowed from 24, and made Cap better.  I'm a big fan.

burrben

03-07-2007, 08:28 AM

i was scared. i thought peter fonda died<img src="http://www.harleysons.de/er%201.jpg" border="0" width="466" height="466" />

Bellyfullasnot

03-07-2007, 08:45 AM

Now he'll be reunited with Buckey.

EliSnow

03-07-2007, 08:49 AM

Bellyfullasnot wrote: Now he'll be reunited with Buckey. Actually, we found out in the last year that Bucky never died.  He's alive and is now known as the Winter Soldier:<a href="http://www.marvel.com/universe/Winter_Soldier">http://www.marvel.com/universe/Winter_Soldier</a>

Bellyfullasnot

03-07-2007, 09:33 AM

Wow.  I haven't read a comic in a long time.  Thanks.

booster11373

03-07-2007, 09:37 AM

This is just a "event" and will be easily fixed in maybe a year 18 months

King Imp

03-07-2007, 11:30 AM

After all these years, he's going to be killed by a lousy sniper? How lame is that? At least Supes went down to a mammoth beast. Anyway, as long as this Capt. America is still alive, then I'm okay. Would be a shame for him to die after granting all of us our wish of seeing that big goof getting his ass kicked. <img src="http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e289/Oh-Joy/MMA/CaptainCouture.jpg" border="0" width="300" height="462" />

sr71blackbird

03-07-2007, 11:31 AM

Tenbatsuzen

03-07-2007, 12:40 PM

sr71blackbird wrote: <img src="http://captain-america.us/images/captainamerica-dead.jpg" border="0" width="320" height="240" /> Why is Dennis Rodman tending to him?  (or Ultimate Nick Fury?)

lleeder

03-07-2007, 12:49 PM

This spoiler was complete bullshit. I open the Daily News today and it right there. The paper should warn you like an internet story would. If I hadn't read this I would have gone right out and picked up the issue. Now I'm pissed at Marvel for leaking it. Do you care about readers or fuckin publicity?

DarkHippie

03-07-2007, 03:01 PM

I'm gonna guess that the Punisher becomes the new Captain America.  They did a What If? once with this scenario and it was pretty cool

bootzilla6

03-07-2007, 03:09 PM

This is the type of shit that made me stop reading comics,that and the 2.25 price tag for 16 pages of shit.

lleeder

03-07-2007, 03:17 PM

DarkHippie wrote: I'm gonna guess that the Punisher becomes the new Captain America.  They did a What If? once with this scenario and it was pretty cool Your so right. He kept the mask.

TheMojoPin

03-07-2007, 03:20 PM

lleeder wrote: DarkHippie wrote: I'm gonna guess that the Punisher becomes the new Captain America.  They did a What If? once with this scenario and it was pretty cool Your so right. He kept the mask.Is the Punisher even still around?  I thought he was kind of moved off into his own universe with that awesome Garth Ennis series.  I love him as this supremely fucked up Vietnam vet.  He's actually scarier in his mid-50's or so and without any super tights running around.

DarkHippie

03-07-2007, 03:27 PM

lleeder wrote: DarkHippie wrote: I'm gonna guess that the Punisher becomes the new Captain America.  They did a What If? once with this scenario and it was pretty cool Your so right. He kept the mask.It's what I would do if I was writing it.  I would love to write the conflict inside of him, wanting to exact his kind of vengence for everything, but being restrained by having to represent america in the eyes of the world.  I would definitely pick up that book.

Don Stugots

03-07-2007, 03:37 PM

DarkHippie wrote: I'm gonna guess that the Punisher becomes the new Captain America. They did a What If? once with this scenario and it was pretty cool i have that issue somewhere.

Gvac

03-07-2007, 04:27 PM

Say it isn't so!This is bullshit!

TheMojoPin

03-07-2007, 04:28 PM

DarkHippie wrote: lleeder wrote: DarkHippie wrote: I'm gonna guess that the Punisher becomes the new Captain America.  They did a What If? once with this scenario and it was pretty cool Your so right. He kept the mask.It's what I would do if I was writing it.  I would love to write the conflict inside of him, wanting to exact his kind of vengence for everything, but being restrained by having to represent america in the eyes of the world.  I would definitely pick up that book.Why would the Punisher ever do such a thing?  He's the fuckin' Punisher!  He doesn't give two shits what the world thinks of himself, much less America.

DarkHippie

03-07-2007, 04:31 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: DarkHippie wrote: lleeder wrote: DarkHippie wrote: I'm gonna guess that the Punisher becomes the new Captain America.  They did a What If? once with this scenario and it was pretty cool Your so right. He kept the mask.It's what I would do if I was writing it.  I would love to write the conflict inside of him, wanting to exact his kind of vengence for everything, but being restrained by having to represent america in the eyes of the world.  I would definitely pick up that book.Why would the Punisher ever do such a thing?  He's the fuckin' Punisher!  He doesn't give two shits what the world thinks of himself, much less America.He was a Marine, wasn't he?

Don Stugots

03-07-2007, 04:32 PM

Gvac wrote: Say it isn't so!This is bullshit! do you want a hug and some kool aid? 

This message was edited by Don Stugots on 3-7-07 @ 8:33 PM

Bulldogcakes

03-07-2007, 04:34 PM

King Imp wrote: After all these years, he's going to be killed by a lousy sniper? How lame is that?  Its pretty cool if your name is Zapruder and you happen to be filming it.

TheMojoPin

03-07-2007, 04:48 PM

DarkHippie wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: DarkHippie wrote: lleeder wrote: DarkHippie wrote: I'm gonna guess that the Punisher becomes the new Captain America.  They did a What If? once with this scenario and it was pretty cool Your so right. He kept the mask.It's what I would do if I was writing it.  I would love to write the conflict inside of him, wanting to exact his kind of vengence for everything, but being restrained by having to represent america in the eyes of the world.  I would definitely pick up that book.Why would the Punisher ever do such a thing?  He's the fuckin' Punisher!  He doesn't give two shits what the world thinks of himself, much less America.He was a Marine, wasn't he?Not that kind of Marine.Read "Punisher: Born."

DarkHippie

03-07-2007, 05:31 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: DarkHippie wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: DarkHippie wrote: lleeder wrote: DarkHippie wrote: I'm gonna guess that the Punisher becomes the new Captain America.  They did a What If? once with this scenario and it was pretty cool Your so right. He kept the mask.It's what I would do if I was writing it.  I would love to write the conflict inside of him, wanting to exact his kind of vengence for everything, but being restrained by having to represent america in the eyes of the world.  I would definitely pick up that book.Why would the Punisher ever do such a thing?  He's the fuckin' Punisher!  He doesn't give two shits what the world thinks of himself, much less America.He was a Marine, wasn't he?Not that kind of Marine.Read "Punisher: Born."Still, to read him as someone who doesn't care about anyone and anything (as probably most people do) makes him a one dimensional and uninteresting character.  He has to care about something, he has to have some motivation in life.  Or he could be coerced by Shield into doing it (i don't know why Shield would do this).  Or they could write him as really identifying with Cap and the rebels.  That's how i think they will do it.  Why else would he keep the mask?However they do it, this is what I think would be the most interesting plot line, and if they don't go for it, they are missing a big chance.

HeyGehry

03-07-2007, 06:18 PM

No Dom Deluise pics in this thread? I'm disappointed..... It's a living!

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TheMojoPin

03-07-2007, 06:24 PM

DarkHippie wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: DarkHippie wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: DarkHippie wrote: lleeder wrote: DarkHippie wrote: I'm gonna guess that the Punisher becomes the new Captain America.  They did a What If? once with this scenario and it was pretty cool Your so right. He kept the mask.It's what I would do if I was writing it.  I would love to write the conflict inside of him, wanting to exact his kind of vengence for everything, but being restrained by having to represent america in the eyes of the world.  I would definitely pick up that book.Why would the Punisher ever do such a thing?  He's the fuckin' Punisher!  He doesn't give two shits what the world thinks of himself, much less America.He was a Marine, wasn't he?Not that kind of Marine.Read "Punisher: Born."Still, to read him as someone who doesn't care about anyone and anything (as probably most people do) makes him a one dimensional and uninteresting character.  He has to care about something, he has to have some motivation in life.  Or he could be coerced by Shield into doing it (i don't know why Shield would do this).  Or they could write him as really identifying with Cap and the rebels.  That's how i think they will do it.  Why else would he keep the mask?However they do it, this is what I think would be the most interesting plot line, and if they don't go for it, they are missing a big chance.He cares about people he views as innocent...typically children.  The point of the character is he's almost solely focused on his war on "crime."  Nothing else really matters to him.  That's what makes him the Punisher as opposed to every other twit in tights.  The superhero stuff doesn't interest him at all.  That world didn't kill his family.I wouldn't buy him becoming Captain American for a second.  And if you've read when Fury shows up in the MAX series, there's no way it would happen.

ToLEEdo

03-07-2007, 07:37 PM

This is a lame attempt at publicity, should have just waited and made World War Hulk cool enough,but as for the Punisher thing, they did sort of reference it in Civil War.  Spiderman refers to the punisher as being just like Cap but in a different war.  ????? Maybe they were alluding to something.

Wallower

03-07-2007, 07:44 PM

Just a recap...Captain America - dead"Who Wants To Be A Superhero?" - renewed for a second season

EliSnow

03-08-2007, 05:28 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: lleeder wrote: DarkHippie wrote: I'm gonna guess that the Punisher becomes the new Captain America.  They did a What If? once with this scenario and it was pretty cool Your so right. He kept the mask.Is the Punisher even still around?  I thought he was kind of moved off into his own universe with that awesome Garth Ennis series.  I love him as this supremely fucked up Vietnam vet.  He's actually scarier in his mid-50's or so and without any super tights running around.Marvel essentially is publishing two different Punishers now (similar to how they have an Ultimate Spider-man and the main Spider-man).  One Punisher is being written by Garth Ennis as part of the Marvel Max line.   They also have "Punisher War Journal" which is the main universe Marvel who has been busy killing super-villains while Civil War has been going on.

CofyCrakCocaine

03-08-2007, 05:48 AM

I stopped reading Marvel in 1995 or so, around the time the Onslaught series pretty much wiped out the entire Marvel universe save the X-men and Spidey. Is the Ultimate series the alternate universe storyline that got created in light of that mutant clusterfuck? Cap will be back. It'll be a matter of time.  They always return, when a storyline gets too lame they resurrect missed characters. Look at stupid Norman Osborn returning to fix up that shitty Clone storyline because it wasn't popular with the fans.

EliSnow

03-08-2007, 05:58 AM

CofyCrakCocaine wrote: I stopped reading Marvel in 1995 or so, around the time the Onslaught series pretty much wiped out the entire Marvel universe save the X-men and Spidey. Is the Ultimate series the alternate universe storyline that got created in light of that mutant clusterfuck?Nope.  It is an alternate universe, but there has been no story linking the creation of that universe to an event in the Marvel Prime (or 616 as Alan Moore called it) universe.They've told some pretty damn good stories in that universe.  I think the best Spider-man stories in the last 15-20 years have been told in the Ultimate Universe.  Some of it is modern adaptions of Spidey's origin (he was bit by a genetically altered spider, not one that passed through radiation) and past Spidey stories (including an adaption of the Clone Saga that is a 100 times better than the original).  Spidey is still in high school, his girl friend is Mary Jane (who knows his secret), and, Aunt May is around, but she isn't as old and frail as she originally was, and recently found out his secret.They also have an Ultimate Avengers team called the Ultimates, that has provided the best super-team stories since the first 20 or so issues of the Authority.  Ultimate Fantastic Four has been both good and bad, while Ultimate X-Men has been so-so.The line has been so successful that DC has been doing a similar thing with "All-Star Superman" and "All-Star Batman and Robin" which try to pull the best of the Superman and Batman mythos over the years into a new continuity (All-Star Superman has been incredible, while I could only stomach two issues of All-Star Batman).

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CofyCrakCocaine

03-08-2007, 06:20 AM

So basically Ultimate Universe is a suped up remake of past storylines? Blech. Even if they're well done, I don't care for that. Tho it is a pain in the ass to try to keep these characters young for 40+ years, so I can see why they'd turn back the clock and put the present day into it.

EliSnow

03-08-2007, 06:35 AM

CofyCrakCocaine wrote: So basically Ultimate Universe is a suped up remake of past storylines? Blech. Even if they're well done, I don't care for that. Tho it is a pain in the ass to try to keep these characters young for 40+ years, so I can see why they'd turn back the clock and put the present day into it.It's not just a suped up remake of past storylines.  Some of it is, and a lot isn't.   The Ultimates storylines haven't been a remake of any prior Avengers story.  Ultimate Spider-man have told a number of stories that aren't related to prior Spidey stories.  Some of it has been similar,  but some of it superficially similar, with huge changes.  The Clone Saga in the Ultimate Universe bears very, very few traits with the original.In other words, the stories are not just changing the original storylines to fit modern times.   In many ways, it's telling stories that they can't tell anymore.  For instance, in the main Marvel universe, they can't tell any more Spidey in high school stories, because he's an adult.  Now they can in the Ultimate 'verse, and not just retreads, but some original thoughts and ideas.  For instance, issue #13 of Ultimate Spider-man may be in the top 5 of my favorite one-shot stories of all time.  It's when Peter tells Mary Jane his secret, and I think the whole issue was set in Peter's bedroom.  Before this book, I've never read anything that captured as perfectly that junior high/high school moment between a boy and a girl sharing stories about their lives and realizing that they really like each other.  There's nothing like that issue in the main universe.  It's something completely new.I guess I'd compare the Utimate Universe to today's Battlestar Galactica.  Galactia is based on the same premise as the original with many of the same characters and virtually the same origin, and some similar stories.  But it is not just a suped up remake.  It is its own being that surpasses the original by far.  The Ultimate universe is similar - althought I don't think the Ultimate Universe suprasses the originals.  However, they have told some really, really great stories.  And similar to the Galactica, when it was first announced, fans couldn't stand the idea of the Utlimate Universe (some still can't).  But many have come around and loved it.

This message was edited by EliSnow on 3-8-07 @ 10:38 AM

TheMojoPin

03-08-2007, 07:07 AM

EliSnow wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: lleeder wrote: DarkHippie wrote: I'm gonna guess that the Punisher becomes the new Captain America.  They did a What If? once with this scenario and it was pretty cool Your so right. He kept the mask.Is the Punisher even still around?  I thought he was kind of moved off into his own universe with that awesome Garth Ennis series.  I love him as this supremely fucked up Vietnam vet.  He's actually scarier in his mid-50's or so and without any super tights running around.Marvel essentially is publishing two different Punishers now (similar to how they have an Ultimate Spider-man and the main Spider-man).  One Punisher is being written by Garth Ennis as part of the Marvel Max line.   They also have "Punisher War Journal" which is the main universe Marvel who has been busy killing super-villains while Civil War has been going on.That's really confusing, expecially since Nick Fury has shown up in the MAX series.  Or is that Ennis' Max Fury?  Is he seperate, too?

TheMojoPin

03-08-2007, 07:08 AM

CofyCrakCocaine wrote: I stopped reading Marvel in 1995 or so, around the time the Onslaught series pretty much wiped out the entire Marvel universe save the X-men and Spidey. Is the Ultimate series the alternate universe storyline that got created in light of that mutant clusterfuck? Cap will be back. It'll be a matter of time.  They always return, when a storyline gets too lame they resurrect missed characters. Look at stupid Norman Osborn returning to fix up that shitty Clone storyline because it wasn't popular with the fans.Yeah, Marvel really fucked that up.  Fix a terrible storyline with an even worse one.  Osborn should have never come back.

EliSnow

03-08-2007, 07:12 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: EliSnow wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: lleeder wrote: DarkHippie wrote: I'm gonna guess that the Punisher becomes the new Captain America.  They did a What If? once with this scenario and it was pretty cool Your so right. He kept the mask.Is the Punisher even still around?  I thought he was kind of moved off into his own universe with that awesome Garth Ennis series.  I love him as this supremely fucked up Vietnam vet.  He's actually scarier in his mid-50's or so and without any super tights running around.Marvel essentially is publishing two different Punishers now (similar to how they have an Ultimate Spider-man and the main Spider-man).  One Punisher is being written by Garth Ennis as part of the Marvel Max line.   They also have "Punisher War Journal" which is the main universe Marvel who has been busy killing super-villains while Civil War has been going on.That's really confusing, expecially since Nick Fury has shown up in the MAX series.  Or is that Ennis' Max Fury?  Is he seperate, too?Yeah, there is a separate Fury in the Max 'verse.

Tenbatsuzen

03-08-2007, 07:17 AM

Just to give you some ideas about what's different in the Ultimate Marvel Universe - Banner was possessed by jealousy to become the Hulk.  He's turned into a mass-murdered in Hulk form, even being a cannibal.Venom is not based on the symbiote, rather a genetic program that was initiated by Peter Parker's father. Gwen Stacy was killed by Carnage, rather than the Goblin, right in front of the Parker house.Tony Stark's entire body is  his brain, more or less.  (Long story)Nick Fury is based on Samuel L. Jackson Anybody want to add to this?

EliSnow

03-08-2007, 07:49 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Just to give you some ideas about what's different in the Ultimate Marvel Universe - Banner was possessed by jealousy to become the Hulk.  He's turned into a mass-murdered in Hulk form, even being a cannibal.  His abilities did not come from being exposed to a gamma bomb, but were caused by his self-experimentation in his efforts to re-create the Super Soldier Serum.Venom is not based on the symbiote, rather a genetic program that was initiated by Peter Parker's father. Gwen Stacy was killed by Carnage, rather than the Goblin, right in front of the Parker house.  She was never Peter Parker's love, only his friend.Tony Stark's entire body is  his brain, more or less.  (Long story)Nick Fury is based on Samuel L. Jackson Anybody want to add to this? Sure.  See above and below.Colossus is gay.The Fantastic Four achieved their powers as an accident in trying to access the Negative Zone.  Doom was part of the experiment, and was also altered (similar to how he is in the movie.More to come.

Tenbatsuzen

03-08-2007, 07:57 AM

One of my favorites - Ultimate Hulk tore Ultimate Wolverine in HALF.The first part of the issue was Logan using his claws to move to find his legs.

EliSnow

03-08-2007, 08:12 AM

More Ultimate differences (some spoilers):Green Goblin is a green Hulk-like creature with a goblin like face.Thor isn't bonded to a human (and didn't change from human to god), but was thought to be a norweigan environmentalist/peacenik/nutcase, who had super powers.  Spider-woman is a female clone of Peter Parker.Ultimate Cable is not the son of Scott Summers, but rather is a current Ultimate X-Man from the future (too new of a story to spoil it here).

CofyCrakCocaine

03-08-2007, 08:22 AM

I have the first appearence of Cable in that new mutants issue way back when. Red background. Love how that dropped dramatically in price.

EliSnow

03-08-2007, 08:35 AM

Ultimate Cap during WWII:<img src="http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/5818/ultcapgx2.jpg" border="0" width="231" height="295" />

MrPink

03-08-2007, 09:07 AM

People read comic books still? It's a good idea to kill off cap america, let's get rid of that patriotism propaganda bullshit.

Captain Rooster

03-08-2007, 03:27 PM

I say he's not dead ... and he comes back as Ronin (The Masterless Samurai) of the New Avengers. PS--Don't buy Cap #25 -- Cap's death is lame, lame, lame.

samnyc

03-08-2007, 04:45 PM

I am upset since Cap is my favorite character and I wanted to see how he would deal with events in his own title. However I am relieved that the Brubaker series will continue in some form and there is a large enough supporting cast to keep it interesting until he resurfaces.My guess is that Fury helped take him underground to lay low from Stark and get at Red Skull and Kronas.  I have not read the ish yet though.

Captain Rooster

03-08-2007, 05:01 PM

So the title is not ending? Is Winter Soldier (Bucky) taking over?

Sheeplovr

03-09-2007, 03:58 AM

Captain Rooster wrote: So the title is not ending? Is Winter Soldier (Bucky) taking over?  i was thinking that to but thats crazy

Don Stugots

03-09-2007, 05:02 AM

crazy like a fox

boobieman

03-09-2007, 09:38 AM

Hello,  I am a big comic book fan. I collect a few titles a month..one of them is Captain America. What really pisses me off, I have a regular comic book store I go to every week. They sold out..with in 2 hours of receiveing the issue, they don't get that much walkin business. So they have their regulars that they must hold a side for.  So I guess I lose out..no big deal, even though I am a regular, but not spead $30 a week, I'm small time. I  have been sick all week, my wife works in the city and today she passes a comic book store that I called and told me they sold out of the issue. She stops in and they have the issue..for fuckin $10...what the fuck!?? She bought it. It just the fucking point...it pisses me off.Go to Ebay..they have it on sale for $50- $80...assholes.  Next week every single store in the country will have a shitload of this comic. Not a 2nd printing either...all the stores just under ordered. Worst part, I did not get to read the issue and it is all over the place..Newspapers, web sites.Just pisses me off...

EliSnow

10-11-2007, 11:36 AM

Looks like Captain America (well some Captain America, I'm betting Bucky) with a new costume will be returning in January.

Story here (http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.1640.Captain_America_Lives?utm_campai gn=front+page+tracking&utm_source=main+graphic&utm_medium=big+graphic+link&utm_content=%2Fnews%2Fcomicstories.1640.Captain_Am erica_Lives)

New Costume, designed by Alex Ross:

http://www.marvel.com/i/content/st/1640header_banner2118575.jpg

DarkHippie

10-11-2007, 11:43 AM

I like the idea of Cap with a gun. It'll be interesting at least. And it has to be The Winter Solider (bucky) who takes up the mantle. I can't think of anyone else who it would fit

EliSnow

10-11-2007, 11:48 AM

I like the idea of Cap with a gun. It'll be interesting at least. And it has to be The Winter Solider (bucky) who takes up the mantle. I can't think of anyone else who it would fit

Given the storyline going on in Captain America right now, I agree completely.

But it wouldn't be the first time a comic book company pulled something stupid out of their ass.

In the end, I love what Brubaker has done with the series, and trust he's going to make this good.

EliSnow

10-11-2007, 11:54 AM

Per my last thought, Brubaker has said (http://comics.ign.com/articles/826/826576p1.html) that he doesn't think that Bucky wouldn't take the mantle:

When IGN spoke to Brubaker last month, we asked him about the possibility of Bucky becoming the new Captain America should the situation or possibility present itself. Here's what he had to say: "I don't think he would think he would be good enough to do it. .... So I don't think that would be something he would want to do or he would think he was worthy of. But that's interesting."

JustJon

10-11-2007, 12:05 PM

There was a rumor for a while that Frank Castle would be taking the mantle. The Fallen Son hardcover came out yesterday but the Brubaker Cap trade where Cap dies has yet to come out.

DarkHippie

10-11-2007, 12:07 PM

Per my last thought, Brubaker has said (http://comics.ign.com/articles/826/826576p1.html) that he doesn't think that Bucky wouldn't take the mantle:

Who are the other options? Maybe Hawkeye or the Falcon. Oooh, the Falcon would be a good choice. He already has the super serum in him.

For a while I thought it may be the Punisher, but I don't think Castle would be happy having to work within the law

And Brubaker might be my new favorite writer. He's blowing me away with the Iron Fist series

EliSnow

10-11-2007, 12:08 PM

There was a rumor for a while that Frank Castle would be taking the mantle. The Fallen Son hardcover came out yesterday but the Brubaker Cap trade where Cap dies has yet to come out.

I haven't been reading Punisher War Journal, but it looks like the Punisher in that title changed his costume a little bit to incorporate some of the Cap Costume into the outfit.

BTW, here's another look at the new costume:

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/CapAmerica/t_RossCap2.jpg

JustJon

10-11-2007, 12:10 PM

Who are the other options? Maybe Hawkeye or the Falcon. Oooh, the Falcon would be a good choice. He already has the super serum in him.

For a while I thought it may be the Punisher, but I don't think Castle would be happy having to work within the law

And Brubaker might be my new favorite writer. He's blowing me away with the Iron Fist series

Um, might be too obvious, but it can't be the Falcon. He's black.

EliSnow

10-11-2007, 12:11 PM

Who are the other options? Maybe Hawkeye or the Falcon. Oooh, the Falcon would be a good choice. He already has the super serum in him.

The early images show a white Cap, so I don't think it's Falcon.

For a while I thought it may be the Punisher, but I don't think Castle would be happy having to work within the law.

There's nothing to suggest this new Cap is working within the law. But I don't think it will be the Punisher, given that Punisher War Journal is going forward as it was, with the Punisher back in his regular costume.

MadMatt

10-11-2007, 12:35 PM

Maybe they are going to give John Walker another shot...

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/b/b1/180px-Superpatriot2.jpg

cougarjake13

10-11-2007, 01:52 PM

the way i see it why would they give it to some already established superhero ??

if you have a brand new guy or some second third or lower tier superhero that doesnt already have his own title out maybe then you move that established character into the role but otherwise you're killing one franchise to re start another one

EliSnow

10-15-2007, 05:03 AM

the way i see it why would they give it to some already established superhero ??

if you have a brand new guy or some second third or lower tier superhero that doesnt already have his own title out maybe then you move that established character into the role but otherwise you're killing one franchise to re start another one

That's why I think you'll see it be Bucky.

boobieman

10-15-2007, 05:48 AM

Hello,
The punisher will not be Captain America. He gave up the costume. Now he has a sort of venom thing...sort of interesting.

I think the next Cap will either be Hawkeye or a Skrull.

Either way, once the comic's sals start to slip...Steve Rogers will return.

I really like the Captain america story line.

SEE YAY

EliSnow

10-15-2007, 05:56 AM

Hello,
The punisher will not be Captain America. He gave up the costume. Now he has a sort of venom thing...sort of interesting.

I think the next Cap will either be Hawkeye or a Skrull.

Hawkeye turned down the Cap gig. He tried it at Tony Stark's request, and decided he couldn't do it.

And as for a Skrull, ok, but who would the skrull be posing as to get picked as the next Cap?

cougarjake13

10-15-2007, 06:56 PM

That's why I think you'll see it be Bucky.

well on the marvel wesite they have the preview for the next cap amer issue and it said like the final something of cap amer dead and it ends with a bang

also shows bucky on the cover either dying or dead

EliSnow

10-16-2007, 04:11 AM

well on the marvel wesite they have the preview for the next cap amer issue and it said like the final something of cap amer dead and it ends with a bang

also shows bucky on the cover either dying or dead

Or injured.

Also, it wouldn't be the first time a cover teased that a character may be dead but was in fact alive (hell, it wouludn't even be the 101st time).

EliSnow

10-16-2007, 05:08 AM

I just wanted to add the following that was shown in the last issue of Captain America.

Essentially the end had Iron Man flying to a scene, and leaving behind a letter that said, from what could be seen:

"the worst is to happen, I'm trusting you to do two things: Don't let Bucky drift back into anger and confusion. He has a chance at a new life - help him find his way. Save him for me. And as for Captain America, the part of it that is bigger than me - that's always been bigger than me - Don't let it die, Tony.

America needs a Captain, maybe now more than ever, Don't let that dream die. Yours, Steve Rogers

I think that gives a pretty damn good clue as to who the next Cap will be.

EliSnow

10-16-2007, 05:21 AM

well on the marvel wesite they have the preview for the next cap amer issue and it said like the final something of cap amer dead and it ends with a bang

also shows bucky on the cover either dying or dead

Or injured.

Also, it wouldn't be the first time a cover teased that a character may be dead but was in fact alive (hell, it wouludn't even be the 101st time).

The last point on this. The solicitation for Captain America #32 points to the fact that the Red Skull is not seeking to kill Bucky but to use him again as the Winter Soldier:

The Falcon and Black Widow hunt together! Can they save the Winter Soldier from becoming a tool of the Red Skull again? And if they do, will he just go kill Tony Stark? And what of Agent 13, Sharon Carter, who shot the final bullets into her true love, Steve Rogers, and has seen her life fall apart since then? Those answers, much action, and more! From the Eisner Award-Winning Best Writer Ed Brubaker and Fan-Favorite Artist Steve Epting, who brought you the biggest selling comic of the year!

EliSnow

01-29-2008, 05:06 AM

The new Captain America debuts in the Captain America issue debuting tomorrow. For those of you who don't know who the new Cap is, I won't spoil it.

But I can tell you I figured out who it was from the start.

PhishHead

01-29-2008, 05:16 AM

The new Captain America debuts in the Captain America issue debuting tomorrow. For those of you who don't know who the new Cap is, I won't spoil it.

But I can tell you I figured out who it was from the start.

i thought it was well known who it was?

EliSnow

01-29-2008, 05:18 AM

i thought it was well known who it was?

It's pretty well known now, but when they first announced that there would be a new Cap, there was a host of speculation about who it could be (the Punisher, USAgent, Falcon, Bucky, Hawkeye). Look at this thread alone.

Knowledged_one

01-29-2008, 05:23 AM

It's pretty well known now, but when they first announced that there would be a new Cap, there was a host of speculation about who it could be (the Punisher, USAgent, Falcon, Bucky, Hawkeye). Look at this thread alone.

I would rather see the Left Winger and Right Winger as the new Cap even though one is crippled and the other is dead i believe

PhishHead

01-29-2008, 05:23 AM

It's pretty well known now, but when they first announced that there would be a new Cap, there was a host of speculation about who it could be (the Punisher, USAgent, Falcon, Bucky, Hawkeye). Look at this thread alone.

Well Clint Barton is already negated because of "Fallen Son" where he declines the position.

I just thought in Capt. #33 which came out in December( I think) they said who it would be, but maybe I missed something in the interim, and they have changed their mind.

I probably should read the entire thread, which I haven't. I should just spoil it for everyone!!! If they were real fans they would have read #32 and #33. There I said it, you all suck, except Eli of course:wub:

EliSnow

01-29-2008, 05:34 AM

Well Clint Barton is already negated because of "Fallen Son" where he declines the position.

I just thought in Capt. #33 which came out in December( I think) they said who it would be, but maybe I missed something in the interim, and they have changed their mind.

I probably should read the entire thread, which I haven't. I should just spoil it for everyone!!! If they were real fans they would have read #32 and #33. There I said it, you all suck, except Eli of course:wub:

It's clear from the last two issues who the new Cap will be. I'm just being ultra-careful about spoilers, especially because a bunch of you only read TPBs, and don't collect every week.

PhishHead

01-29-2008, 05:45 AM

It's clear from the last two issues who the new Cap will be. I'm just being ultra-careful about spoilers, especially because a bunch of you only read TPBs, and don't collect every week.

Maybe Eli is the new Cap., and he wants it to be a secret.

EliSnow

01-29-2008, 05:51 AM

Maybe Eli is the new Cap., and he wants it to be a secret.

God, I would look good in that uniform.

Well, after I lose a little more weight and build up a lot a muscle.

ToLEEdo

01-29-2008, 07:03 AM

This is irrelevant at this point but Punisher didn't choose that costume one of his psycho bad guys knocked him out and then put him in that costume. I think they put it in the storyline to hype the Castle Cap ties.

MadMatt

01-29-2008, 07:20 AM

Does anybody find the new costume (above), a little weird? It seems to be a little awkward to me - like he's wearing a Halloween costume over a regular black costume.

Maybe it will look a little better "in action."

EliSnow

01-29-2008, 07:27 AM

Does anybody find the new costume (above), a little weird? It seems to be a little awkward to me - like he's wearing a Halloween costume over a regular black costume.

Maybe it will look a little better "in action."

I think it's supposed to incorporate a bit about the current person filling the role (his "covert ops" history) along with the Cap image.

I do like that he doesn't just have the exact same Cap image, and I'm okay with the current costume.

PhishHead

01-29-2008, 07:32 AM

I think it's supposed to incorporate a bit about the current person filling the role (his "covert ops" history) along with the Cap image.

I do like that he doesn't just have the exact same Cap image, and I'm okay with the current costume.

the pic of the new costume is not showing up for me.

Eli can you PM me it to see if it works that way?

EliSnow

01-29-2008, 07:35 AM

the pic of the new costume is not showing up for me.

Eli can you PM me it to see if it works that way?

Can you see this:

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7889/trosscap2da7.jpg

MadMatt

01-29-2008, 07:42 AM

I think it's supposed to incorporate a bit about the current person filling the role (his "covert ops" history) along with the Cap image.

I do like that he doesn't just have the exact same Cap image, and I'm okay with the current costume.

Don't get me wrong - I like the new direction. A costume change makes complete sense and the new costume is really close to being cool. But IMO it needs a couple of tweaks to make it a great costume. And I mean minor tweaks.

Example:

I would make his boots red. The gloves are red, so why not the boots? It would provide more symmetry and carry the theme to the lower half of his body where it is lacking.
The point/V of the R/W/B make it look like the Cap portion is a big "hood" he just added. Make it look like the top is tucked into the pants and viola. The utility belt creates enough of a dividing line to make the point without creating an artificial division.
I think the metallic look also bugs me. It completely defeats the 'covert nature' of the rest of the costume.

This could be one of the gayest posts I have ever made. I am calling Tim Gunn right now...

boobieman

01-29-2008, 07:43 AM

This is irrelevant at this point but Punisher didn't choose that costume one of his psycho bad guys knocked him out and then put him in that costume. I think they put it in the storyline to hype the Castle Cap ties.

Hello,
No the Punisher picked that costum, to show that Captain America is still sort of alive. He did not have the costum on when The hate Monger knocked him. He then put the costume back on because the Hate Monger wanted to kill the american dream and it's icon.

Getting back to current Captain America, This cap will stay around until sales start to slip. Then Steve Rogers will return. But it is a interesting read and story line. Better then the Spider man crap they pulled.

Just expect tomorrows Cap #34 to be a very hot seller.
SEE YAYAYAYAYAAAAAAAAA

EliSnow

01-29-2008, 08:03 AM

Getting back to current Captain America, This cap will stay around until sales start to slip. Then Steve Rogers will return. But it is a interesting read and story line. Better then the Spider man crap they pulled.

Just expect tomorrows Cap #34 to be a very hot seller.
SEE YAYAYAYAYAAAAAAAAA

I disagree. While I do agree that Steve Rogers will be back, it may happen before sales slip, if sales slip while Brubaker is writing. I'm not sure that they will. Brubaker's run on the Cap series has been phenomeonal, especially considering the series has gotten better since Cap left.

Brubaker has had a long term plan here, and it may very well have Rogers' return in it.

PhishHead

01-29-2008, 08:21 AM

Can you see this:

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7889/trosscap2da7.jpg

yes i can and it looks awesome!!

You rock

booster11373

01-29-2008, 08:58 AM

Hello,
Getting back to current Captain America, This cap will stay around until sales start to slip. Then Steve Rogers will return. But it is a interesting read and story line. Better then the Spider man crap they pulled.

Just expect tomorrows Cap #34 to be a very hot seller.
SEE YAYAYAYAYAAAAAAAAA

Or the fanbase just continues to bitch and bitch for years untill they change it back ie. Kyle/Hal

boobieman

01-29-2008, 10:10 AM

I disagree. While I do agree that Steve Rogers will be back, it may happen before sales slip, if sales slip while Brubaker is writing. I'm not sure that they will. Brubaker's run on the Cap series has been phenomeonal, especially considering the series has gotten better since Cap left.

Brubaker has had a long term plan here, and it may very well have Rogers' return in it.

Hello,
True, the writer might have a long term plan. The story line very good, But if the sales slip, if the story line takes too long and fan interest drops, Marvel will tell the writer, get rogers back. They did it to Pete David with the Hulk. I hope not. I hope Brubaker keeps his run going and they let him tell a story the way he plans.

I just wonder how they will bring Steve back. You have a big story and you have to have a equal or bigger ending. Otherwise it will all be shit.

SEE YTAYAAAAA!!!

Knowledged_one

01-29-2008, 11:27 AM

They could bring him back to lead the army of heroes/villians against the skrull invasion storyline. As they would know for sure that he is a non skrull

But what do i know

Gvac

01-29-2008, 11:41 AM

Can you see this:

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7889/trosscap2da7.jpg

I wish I hadn't.

It stinks and I don't like it.

boobieman

01-29-2008, 11:53 AM

They could bring him back to lead the army of heroes/villians against the skrull invasion storyline. As they would know for sure that he is a non skrull

But what do i know

I read a interview with the writer of Captain America and Joe (can't remember his last name) who runs Marvel, when cap died he did not change. He is not a skrull. Just has me curious.

Maybe he will use Ron's time machine..fuck the shit out of HTG then come back right before he gets shot...Linger lodarjdsflds

SEEYAYAYAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! !!

MadMatt

01-29-2008, 11:54 AM

OK, this is quick and dirty, but it helps to illustrate my point:

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5859/trosscapmattti4.jpg

I couldn't pull the 'metallic' look without a lot more work, but even the one or 2 small changes I made make the costume look less "thrown together."

Of course it's my opinion...

ToLEEdo

01-29-2008, 02:53 PM

Hello,
No the Punisher picked that costum, to show that Captain America is still sort of alive. He did not have the costum on when The hate Monger knocked him. He then put the costume back on because the Hate Monger wanted to kill the american dream and it's icon.

Didn't he wake up from being knocked out by the hate monger with that costume on.

boobieman

01-30-2008, 07:41 AM

Didn't he wake up from being knocked out by the hate monger with that costume on.

Yes. The punisher was in the desert with his regular look. When the Hate monger punched him out and when the Punisher wakes up, he is back in the Captain America garb.

SEE YAYAYAAAAAAYYA

ToLEEdo

01-30-2008, 12:57 PM

I really liked #34 I thought it had a really good old Cap storyline and feel to it. I think it is going to a good direction. What do you guys think?

EliSnow

02-01-2008, 12:54 PM

I really liked #34 I thought it had a really good old Cap storyline and feel to it. I think it is going to a good direction. What do you guys think?

I won't get it until next week, but ign.com gave it almost a perfect rating.

ToLEEdo

02-01-2008, 07:09 PM

I won't get it until next week, but ign.com gave it almost a perfect rating.

You didn't get either comics I got at the store on Wednesday.

EliSnow

02-02-2008, 05:29 AM

You didn't get either comics I got at the store on Wednesday.

I get my comics a week late. I used to live in NYC and went to a store there weekly. When I moved here, the store gave me a deal on shipping comics to me every week. Since I wasnt' familiiar with stores up here, and wanted to make sure I got the comics I wanted, I agreed.

So I get my comics about 5-7 days late, usually.

EliSnow

05-23-2008, 07:16 AM

A Captain America is back!!!!

Okay, it's the psychotic Captain America from the 1950's, but his return as part of Red Skull's ultimate plan is really good stuff.

This story keeps gettting better.

MadMatt

05-23-2008, 07:29 AM

A Captain America is back!!!!

Okay, it's the psychotic Captain America from the 1950's, but his return as part of Red Skull's ultimate plan is really good stuff.

This story keeps gettting better.

Wait, what?!?!?!

Seriously, I am out of the loop. Is this the guy who was Cap while Jack Monroe/Nomad was Bucky? I thought HE died too. Was he just put back into "suspended animation?"

EliSnow

05-23-2008, 07:37 AM

Wait, what?!?!?!

Seriously, I am out of the loop. Is this the guy who was Cap while Jack Monroe/Nomad was Bucky? I thought HE died too. Was he just put back into "suspended animation?"

Yes. He apparently was dead, but they just revealed that Dr. Faustus had the guy, but he wasn't dead. Just badly injured.

Aqualad

05-25-2008, 08:45 AM

A Captain America is back!!!!

Okay, it's the psychotic Captain America from the 1950's, but his return as part of Red Skull's ultimate plan is really good stuff.

This story keeps gettting better.

I can't believe that a series could be this continuity-heavy yet read like a grown-up Mature Readers book. Brubaker is amazing.

Gvac

12-06-2008, 06:03 AM

Is Steve Rogers still dead?

If so, I hope Marvel goes bankrupt.

Bastards.

boobieman

12-06-2008, 06:09 AM

Steve Rogers will stay dead...until the sales start to slip..then he will return. I hope so. Don't know why but when the change the main character to another people, it just does not sit right.

The book is still a good read. I still pick it up.

SEEYAYAYYAAA

The Ogre

12-06-2008, 02:39 PM

Speaking as a guy who has a full sleeve of Cap/Red Skull/Bucky/Fury stuff I guess I'm a pretty big Cap fan. I really dug Brubaker up until about the start of the interminably long Man Who Stole America Arc. The bloom is off the rose for me. I think Cap is one of those characters that can't be changed out like a DC legacy. Steve Rogers is Cap like Peter Parker is Spider-Man. Any substitute will simply be a placeholder until the original comes back around.

donnie_darko

12-06-2008, 03:46 PM

i never liked captain america until this new arc

winter soldier captain is fabulous, sure it may be temporary, but captain just struck me as marvels heckler.....

Don Stugots

12-06-2008, 03:49 PM

i never liked captain america until this new arc

winter soldier captain is fabulous, sure it may be temporary, but captain just struck me as marvels heckler.....

HAHAHAAA. great line.

i just picked up the TPB of the death of Capt American as well as Civil War. The fight with Capt and Iron man was cool.

donnie_darko

12-07-2008, 11:41 AM

yeah, that fight was pretty decent, ironman had that moment with spiderman too....and thor as well..

boobieman

12-07-2008, 03:54 PM

If you want a good read with the death of Captain America & Civil War, pick up the 5 issue Fallen Son. Really good.

SEEYAYYAYAAAAAGOEAGLESYAYAYYAAA

JustJon

12-08-2008, 10:03 AM

The Brubaker run has been fantastic. Just picked up the latest HC last week and loved it, plus it had the return of Sin (love Sin).

The current arc is act 3 of the Death of Cap storyline, but who knows if Steve will return at the end of this act or it will continue beyond that.

donnie_darko

12-08-2008, 05:21 PM

since they didnt use the skrull card to bring back rogers i think bucky's in it for the long haul.

thankfully

EliSnow

12-09-2008, 05:34 AM

since they didnt use the skrull card to bring back rogers i think bucky's in it for the long haul.

thankfully

I agree. I don't think we'll see Steve Rogers come back for several years, at the very earliest.

The current arc running in the series portrays how his past as the Winter Soldier is coming to haunt him as Captain America. Plus, there are several threads running from the Death of Captain America that would have to be dealt with before Bucky gives up the role.

donnie_darko

12-11-2008, 09:17 PM

sadly, i know it can only last so long because of the captain america movie upcoming, just like tony stark's meteoric rise prior to the iron man movie, we know the same has to happen with captain america........and steve rogers.......

cougarjake13

12-12-2008, 04:00 PM

sadly, i know it can only last so long because of the captain america movie upcoming, just like tony stark's meteoric rise prior to the iron man movie, we know the same has to happen with captain america........and steve rogers.......

when is that movie slated to come out ??

MisterSmith

12-12-2008, 04:57 PM

when is that movie slated to come out ??

I believe 2011, with an Avengers movie following close behind.

However that means there is still time to screw everything up.

EliSnow

05-16-2009, 06:49 AM

Randy Bowen just released a "Bucky As Captain America" statue. I may have to get and put it next to my Steve Rogers Cap:

http://www.bowendesigns.com/images/sculptures/Bucky%20as%20Mod%20Capt%20Am%201.JPG

And yes, Gvac, Steve Rogers is still dead.

But there have been rumors ....

boobieman

05-16-2009, 08:59 AM

Where are these rumors...

SEEYYAYAAA

Don Stugots

05-16-2009, 09:09 AM

i think they made a good choice with Bucky as Cap. Steve Rogers is from a long gone era. his values are out of date and he represented an America that no longer (if ever) exists.

Gvac

05-16-2009, 09:11 AM

i think they made a good choice with Bucky as Cap. Steve Rogers is from a long gone era. his values are out of date and he represented an America that no longer (if ever) exists.

How dare you.

Captain America is a blond haired, blue eyed, all-American boy.

Bucky is a dick head.

Don Stugots

05-16-2009, 09:13 AM

he is a dick head and so are most of the people he represents. perfect fit.

Blonde hair and blue eyes? sounds more like Capt. Nazi.

Gvac

05-16-2009, 09:16 AM

I don't like what you're implying.

And what are these rumors?

Don Stugots

05-16-2009, 09:17 AM

If i had photoshop skills you would be looking at Steve Rogers giving the old HAIL HITLER right now with an SS on his shield.

Gvac

05-16-2009, 09:18 AM

Commie.

EliSnow

05-16-2009, 09:26 AM

Issue No. 600 is coming out in July and Marvel is being vague about it. Plus there is a storyline involving Steve's gf remembering the Red Skull using a time machine to pull an unrecognizable person to the present.

Don Stugots

05-16-2009, 09:27 AM

Capt. Commie would be a nice photo shop too.

I think part of the reason that Steve Rogers grew stale is because for a long time, this country hasnt stood for anything positive and the rest of the world hated us.

sr71blackbird

05-17-2009, 07:43 AM

All these twists and turns in the whole storyline make it difficult for the casual reader to know what's going on. I have seen this done a few times now and never can follow it. If I was a reader in the late 80's with the Captain America storys I read then, I remember he was Steve Rogers. Zoom ahead to the Ultimates, is this the same Steve Rogers as I read in the 80's?
So what happened, Steve Rogers got killed, and Captain America dies, and now Bucky is wearing Cap's suit? Did Bucky get the super soldier serum? I kind of remember a story where there was a different guy was Captain America and hed the memories of the original Captain implanted somehow? In the Ultimate X Men, Captain American recognizes Wolverine as being Jim Howlett from his days in WWII. Were these implanted memories, or was that the same Steve Rogers? Too many twists and turns.

EliSnow

05-17-2009, 07:58 AM

All these twists and turns in the whole storyline make it difficult for the casual reader to know what's going on. I have seen this done a few times now and never can follow it. If I was a reader in the late 80's with the Captain America storys I read then, I remember he was Steve Rogers. Zoom ahead to the Ultimates, is this the same Steve Rogers as I read in the 80's?
So what happened, Steve Rogers got killed, and Captain America dies, and now Bucky is wearing Cap's suit? Did Bucky get the super soldier serum? I kind of remember a story where there was a different guy was Captain America and hed the memories of the original Captain implanted somehow? In the Ultimate X Men, Captain American recognizes Wolverine as being Jim Howlett from his days in WWII. Were these implanted memories, or was that the same Steve Rogers? Too many twists and turns.

Forget Ultimate Captain America. He and the rest of the Ultimate characters are in a parallel universe.

In the main story line, Steve found out that bucky was never killed but rather was found by the russians. The russians brainwashed him and turned him into an assassin. They would keep him in suspended animation when they didn't need him. Steve helped him out ad when Steve died, bucky became Cap. He does not have the super soldier serum but has a bionic arm. .

TheMojoPin

05-17-2009, 08:11 AM

I think one of the key strengths of this storyline is that it has been very straightforward with very few "twists and turns." It reads much more like a good novel than your usual convoluted tits 'n' tights nonsense.

EliSnow

05-17-2009, 08:50 AM

I think one of the key strengths of this storyline is that it has been very straightforward with very few "twists and turns." It reads much more like a good novel than your usual convoluted tits 'n' tights nonsense.

Well it looks like he was talking outs twists and turns since the '80's which there had better be or the stories would get stale in a couple of years

sr71blackbird

05-17-2009, 06:55 PM

So is the new Captain America really Bucky with a bionic arm and no enhanced physique?

EliSnow

05-18-2009, 05:22 AM

So is the new Captain America really Bucky with a bionic arm and no enhanced physique?

Yes. However, it also should be remembered that when the Soviets brainwashed him, they also gave him additional training to become an assassin (that they called the "Winter Soldier"). So while he's got no superpowers per se, he does have a number of fighting skills, etc. that he uses as Cap. In the end, he's probably not more different than Nightwing but with a bionic arm.

EliSnow

06-15-2009, 05:53 AM

Much more information on the rumors swirling on Captain America #600.

Gvac will be happy -- Steve Rogers is returning.

If you want the spoiled information, which apparently is in the Daily News anyway, click here. (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/060915-Cap-Reborn.html)

KingGeno

06-15-2009, 05:56 AM

Much more information on the rumors swirling on Captain America #600.

Gvac will be happy -- Steve Rogers is returning.

......

That didn't work out well

EliSnow

06-15-2009, 05:58 AM

......

That didn't work out well

I'll edit it.

I really couldn't notice it until you mentioned it and I looked hard.

Damn color deficiency.

MadMatt

06-15-2009, 06:09 AM

That kind of sucks. But it kind of depends on how the follow-up series goes and

where they go with Bucky. Will he stay Cap and Steve Rogers does his own thing for a while or will he immediately be Cap again? It is kind of annoying that they do all of the work to make Bucky a reasonable fill-in as Captain America then only give him a very limited tenure.

boobieman

06-15-2009, 06:50 AM

Looks interesting...
http://marvel.com/videos/725.Reborn_Trailer

Special 5 issue run beginning July 1st.

SEEYEYEYAYAYAYAAAAA

TheMojoPin

06-15-2009, 07:04 AM

Much more information on the rumors swirling on Captain America #600.

Gvac will be happy -- Steve Rogers is returning.

If you want the spoiled information, which apparently is in the Daily News anyway, click here. (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/060915-Cap-Reborn.html)

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Show some fucking balls, Marvel. There was no reason to do this already.

boobieman

06-15-2009, 07:06 AM

Their is one reason to do what they are going to do...sales sales sales.

SEEYAYAYYAAAAAAAA

TheMojoPin

06-15-2009, 07:09 AM

Their is one reason to do what they are going to do...sales sales sales.

SEEYAYAYYAAAAAAAA

But that was a gimme. Any time they were going to bring him back was going to be big. At the same time, the replacements storyline has had good hype and I would presume be selling well. Why not let the storyling play out longer until sales start to really dip?

MadMatt

06-15-2009, 07:21 AM

Looks interesting...
http://marvel.com/videos/725.Reborn_Trailer

Special 5 issue run beginning July 1st.

SEEYEYEYAYAYAYAAAAA

That voice over SUCKED!

Did they just pull some secretary from the office to do the voice work on that thing? Freaking pathetic.

EliSnow

06-15-2009, 07:29 AM

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Show some fucking balls, Marvel. There was no reason to do this already.

I agree. Bucky hasn't done much so far as Cap. He's had one storyline with the Red Skull, helped out at the end of Secret Invasion, and then went to China where he really was Winter Soldier the whole time. And maybe one "mission" in New Avengers.

But that was a gimme. Any time they were going to bring him back was going to be big. At the same time, the replacements storyline has had good hype and I would presume be selling well. Why not let the storyling play out longer until sales start to really dip?

Exactly. Captain America is doing real well in sales. Really no different than before Steve Rogers' death.

Gmann

06-15-2009, 11:52 AM

I don't know whats worse. The fact that they're bringing Rogers back from the dead already or the fact I saw a Eminem / Punisher advert on the side. WTF Marvel ??

Gvac

06-15-2009, 12:42 PM

WAHOO!!!

Suck it bitches!!!

For all of your whining and crying about how Steve Rogers sucked, he's back!

Saw it in the Daily News this morning!

Yee hah!

I still won't read the comic, but it's just the principle of the matter...

jab

06-15-2009, 12:54 PM

papers ruin everything comic related. I WANT TO READ A STORY NOT HAVE IT RUINED FOR ME BUY A MESSAGE BOARD BLOWHARD.

people will buy it tho, good work, marvel press release people!

now it will be a chore getting books cause everyone wants to buy the issue of pet avengers with obama's dog in it!

boobieman

06-15-2009, 02:03 PM

I don't know whats worse. The fact that they're bringing Rogers back from the dead already or the fact I saw a Eminem / Punisher advert on the side. WTF Marvel ??

I saw that too...it is pretty bad and stupid. Don't know who I feel sorrier for...Marvel or Eminem. It is a digital comic and it continues or started in some magazine...It is all shit!

Hope they do a good story for bring Steve back. One thing I hate about Marvel, they have great build ups and crappy pay offs. Either way I will be getting it.

SEYEYYAAYYAYAYAAAA

MadMatt

06-15-2009, 02:20 PM

WAHOO!!!

Suck it bitches!!!

For all of your whining and crying about how Steve Rogers sucked, he's back!

Saw it in the Daily News this morning!

Yee hah!

I don't hate Steve Rogers. In fact, I like him tremendously and have for many decades.

However, I am not a fan of temporary, bullshit changes that are made strictly for increased sales. And Marvel is notorious for this kind of crap. Well, not Marvel alone, but I would argue they are the most prominent purveyors.

If they were going to kill off Steve Rogers they should have made it more of a long-term thing. They can bring him back (just like they do 99% of Marvel's "dead" characters), but why so soon? Let things play out a little more.

TheMojoPin

06-15-2009, 03:53 PM

I don't hate Steve Rogers. In fact, I like him tremendously and have for many decades.

However, I am not a fan of temporary, bullshit changes that are made strictly for increased sales. And Marvel is notorious for this kind of crap. Well, not Marvel alone, but I would argue they are the most prominent purveyors.

If they were going to kill off Steve Rogers they should have made it more of a long-term thing. They can bring him back (just like they do 99% of Marvel's "dead" characters), but why so soon? Let things play out a little more.

Exactly. I knew Rogers would be back and in the right writer's hands he is a very good character, but there was no reason to bring him back this quickly.

jab

06-15-2009, 03:59 PM

I don't hate Steve Rogers. In fact, I like him tremendously and have for many decades.

However, I am not a fan of temporary, bullshit changes that are made strictly for increased sales. And Marvel is notorious for this kind of crap. Well, not Marvel alone, but I would argue they are the most prominent purveyors.

If they were going to kill off Steve Rogers they should have made it more of a long-term thing. They can bring him back (just like they do 99% of Marvel's "dead" characters), but why so soon? Let things play out a little more.

it they made it longer term it would have been for the sales, since i *think* its doing well right now. it seems like theyre letting brubaker do his thing, which is nice to see. and its been a couple of years he's been gone hasnt it? thats kind of a long time, tho it seems like not much has been going on in the book. ill be sad if batman stays *dead* for more than a year...

EliSnow

06-15-2009, 04:16 PM

it they made it longer term it would have been for the sales, since i *think* its doing well right now. it seems like theyre letting brubaker do his thing, which is nice to see. and its been a couple of years he's been gone hasnt it? thats kind of a long time, tho it seems like not much has been going on in the book. ill be sad if batman stays *dead* for more than a year...

Rogers has been gone around 2 years normal time and a little over a year Marvel time. And it seems Bucky has been Cap for only 4 months Marvel time. He really has only been Cap for about three actual stories. And to say not much is going on, isn't accurate.

And I think Bruce Wayne will be gone at least a year, but probably no more than two.

jab

06-15-2009, 04:25 PM

actual stories. tee hee. nerd.

MadMatt

06-16-2009, 01:14 PM

So, anybody read #600 yet? I heard it was supposed to release yesterday instead of the normal Wednesday release.

EliSnow

06-16-2009, 01:16 PM

So, anybody read #600 yet? I heard it was supposed to release yesterday instead of the normal Wednesday release.

According to my local store, it only released early to stores that ordered 150 or more copies of the issue, which does not include my store.

So I haven't read it yet.

EliSnow

06-18-2009, 09:17 AM

So I read #600. It was interesting. They definitely did a few pages on each of the big characters from Death of Captain America. They don't explain how Steve is coming back, although there are plenty of hints that he was never killed. And we see the "gun" used to "kill" Cap.

Crossbones and Sin both comment that people really don't know the truth of what happened to Cap.

psycho

06-24-2009, 01:20 PM

I agree. Bucky hasn't done much so far as Cap. He's had one storyline with the Red Skull, helped out at the end of Secret Invasion, and then went to China where he really was Winter Soldier the whole time. And maybe one "mission" in New Avengers.
It seems like one of the quickest super hero returns ever.

Exactly. Captain America is doing real well in sales. Really no different than before Steve Rogers' death.
Yeah I don't think people read Captain America for the guy under the mask. He's kind of like The Flash in that sense.

lleeder

06-24-2009, 01:25 PM

Yeah I don't think people read Captain America for the guy under the mask. He's kind of like The Flash in that sense.

I wish Flashes kids were dead. I haven't read in a while so if they already died I'm happy.

psycho

06-24-2009, 02:19 PM

I wish Flashes kids were dead. I haven't read in a while so if they already died I'm happy.

I liked Kid Flash when he was Wally.

lleeder

06-24-2009, 02:26 PM

I liked Kid Flash when he was Wally.

I meant the family with the daughter and son with strange powers.

psycho

06-24-2009, 02:34 PM

I meant the family with the daughter and son with strange powers.

oh my bad, don't know anything about em.

Did it matter to any of you guys when Steve Rogers died, or were you cool with Bucky?

lleeder

06-24-2009, 02:38 PM

oh my bad, don't know anything about em.

Did it matter to any of you guys when Steve Rogers died, or were you cool with Bucky?

I thought Bucky had a cool edge that could impact the character in an interesting way. Winter Soldier was amazing so I was happy with more of him.

TheMojoPin

06-24-2009, 03:05 PM

I thought Bucky had a cool edge that could impact the character in an interesting way. Winter Soldier was amazing so I was happy with more of him.

Exactly. Rogers can be a decent character with the right writer, but he usually falls prey to Superman-syndrome in that he's just usually pretty dull and not much is done with him.

EliSnow

06-25-2009, 05:14 AM

It seems like one of the quickest super hero returns ever.

There have been quicker ones. I think Superman was quicker.

Yeah I don't think people read Captain America for the guy under the mask. He's kind of like The Flash in that sense.

I have to disagree with this one. Flash became popular because Mark Waid (for the most part), made Wally different than Barry in a number of ways. I became a Flash fan after reading what Waid did with Barry and his life. Yes, his powers were cool, but how he portrayed Barry is what kept me coming back.

And there was no reason besides publicity to bring Barry back.

psycho

06-25-2009, 07:37 AM

There have been quicker ones. I think Superman was quicker.

Has Superman died multiple times? I remember reading awhile back ago when they brought him back and he was blue and white, I thought that was cool.

I have to disagree with this one. Flash became popular because Mark Waid (for the most part), made Wally different than Barry in a number of ways. I became a Flash fan after reading what Waid did with Barry and his life. Yes, his powers were cool, but how he portrayed Barry is what kept me coming back.

And there was no reason besides publicity to bring Barry back.

I agree but don't you think most people don't really care whether it's Barry or Wally that's wearing the costume ? It seems like this Rebirth isn't picking up nearly as much heat as Green Lantern Rebirth did.

EliSnow

06-25-2009, 07:43 AM

Has Superman died multiple times? I remember reading awhile back ago when they brought him back and he was blue and white, I thought that was cool.

Nope. Just the once, and he came back normal. He became a being of energy a couple of years later.

I agree but don't you think most people don't really care whether it's Barry or Wally that's wearing the costume ? It seems like this Rebirth isn't picking up nearly as much heat as Green Lantern Rebirth did.

Green Lantern Rebirth had heat because there was a large group of fans who were upset when Hal turned evil. They campaigned for his return for years, even though Kyle Raynor stories were actually better. If DC has killed Hal off in a way similar to Barry (he saves the entire DC existance), you probably wouldn't have seen the passionate demand for Hal's return or Rebirth wouldn't have had the same heat.

As I said above, no one (or very few people) were calling for Barry's return. Fans were happy with how he went out, and were happy with Wally as Flash (though they may not have like the Flash kids developments). I think if you ask most Flash fans, they want to read more Wally stories than Barry stories.

Justice4all

06-25-2009, 08:55 AM

years ago there was a comic book character (not marvel) called GrimJack. He would hang out at a bar called Munden's at the crossroads of the universe. He walked by a place that had three doors (for the three major comic labels at the time). He asked what that was about and someone said to him "oh that's for all the hero's and villans who died"

when he saw a revolving door he asked what that was about

"Oh...those are the the ones from the Marvel universe"

Sheesh....can't anyone stay dead anymore?

I can rattle off at least 6-7 people who we thought were dead and came back to life......AGAIN.

EliSnow

06-25-2009, 09:00 AM

years ago there was a comic book character (not marvel) called GrimJack. He would hang out at a bar called Munden's at the crossroads of the universe. He walked by a place that had three doors (for the three major comic labels at the time). He asked what that was about and someone said to him "oh that's for all the hero's and villans who died"

when he saw a revolving door he asked what that was about

"Oh...those are the the ones from the Marvel universe"

Sheesh....can't anyone stay dead anymore?

I can rattle off at least 6-7 people who we thought were dead and came back to life......AGAIN.

It must have been years ago, because now DC is just as bad. If they weren't as bad before.

After all they killed off Alfred and brought him back a long time ago.

PhishHead

06-25-2009, 10:11 AM

Green Lantern Rebirth had heat because there was a large group of fans who were upset when Hal turned evil. They campaigned for his return for years, even though Kyle Raynor stories were actually better. If DC has killed Hal off in a way similar to Barry (he saves the entire DC existance), you probably wouldn't have seen the passionate demand for Hal's return or Rebirth wouldn't have had the same heat.

As I said above, no one (or very few people) were calling for Barry's return. Fans were happy with how he went out, and were happy with Wally as Flash (though they may not have like the Flash kids developments). I think if you ask most Flash fans, they want to read more Wally stories than Barry stories.

The only possible reason for bringing Barry back was because they saw how amazing GL rebirth was and did in sales and say F it lets have Johns and Van Sciver do Flash Rebirth and get some sales there as well.

GL Rebirth was necessary to bring Hal back into the picture even though Kyle was awesome.

EliSnow

06-25-2009, 10:21 AM

The only possible reason for bringing Barry back was because they saw how amazing GL rebirth was and did in sales and say F it lets have Johns and Van Sciver do Flash Rebirth and get some sales there as well.

GL Rebirth was necessary to bring Hal back into the picture even though Kyle was awesome.

Agreed, although GL Rebirth is only necessary if you're going to bring back Hal. Bringing Hal back really wasn't necessary. It was desired by a lot of fans and some creators but wasn't necessary.

PhishHead

06-25-2009, 10:24 AM

Agreed, although GL Rebirth is only necessary if you're going to bring back Hal. Bringing Hal back really wasn't necessary. It was desired by a lot of fans and some creators but wasn't necessary.

well that was what I meant. I think Geoff really liked Hal and wanted to bring him back and the only way to do that was with Rebirth.

Plus i think they had this 3 series arc already planned (rebirth, sinestro, blackest) and knew from the beginning Hal needed to be in it.

EliSnow

06-25-2009, 10:34 AM

well that was what I meant. I think Geoff really liked Hal and wanted to bring him back and the only way to do that was with Rebirth.

Plus i think they had this 3 series arc already planned (rebirth, sinestro, blackest) and knew from the beginning Hal needed to be in it.

I think Johns definitely had this whole story planned out when rebirth came out.

I'm just not sure if the decision to bring Hal back was made before he came up with the story or because of it.

PhishHead

06-25-2009, 11:00 AM

I think Johns definitely had this whole story planned out when rebirth came out.

I'm just not sure if the decision to bring Hal back was made before he came up with the story or because of it.

hmm good question to ask though.

JustJon

06-26-2009, 11:02 AM

I think Johns definitely had this whole story planned out when rebirth came out.

I'm just not sure if the decision to bring Hal back was made before he came up with the story or because of it.

I saw an interview with Johns where he has said there is some Blackest Night in Rebirth if you look. I still don't like the whole "Hal wasn't in control" gimmick, but other than that I really like Johns' GL.

I recently picked up some of the Johns Flash trades from a few years ago. People have raved about them to me for years, and while I think it's good, it's not worthy of the constant praise. I still prefer Waid, whose Flash was so good, it got me to pick up four other books.

TheMojoPin

06-26-2009, 11:16 AM

I recently picked up some of the Johns Flash trades from a few years ago. People have raved about them to me for years, and while I think it's good, it's not worthy of the constant praise.

That pretty much sums up how I feel about everything by Johns that I've read. He's nowhere near being a bad writer, but I think he comes across as distinctly unremarkable. He's basically a very solid journeyman writer: he won't really rock the boat so the story won't suck, but it's never really anything all that memorable. He's basically the Ted Lilly of comic book writers.

JustJon

06-26-2009, 11:18 AM

That pretty much sums up how I feel about everything by Johns that I've read. He's nowhere near being a bad writer, but I think he comes across as distinctly unremarkable. He's basically a very solid journeyman writer: he won't really rock the boat so the story won't suck, but it's never really anything all that memorable. He's basically the Ted Lilly of comic book writers.

To be fair, I'm really enjoying his Superman right now in addition to his GL.

psycho

06-27-2009, 07:03 AM

I think Johns definitely had this whole story planned out when rebirth came out.

I'm just not sure if the decision to bring Hal back was made before he came up with the story or because of it.

You never know, they might have some super awesome story planned out for Barry too. After Hal came back it was a awhile before Sinestro Corps War took place, and everything between Rebirth and SCW was pretty insignificant in my opinion. I know Geoff is a huge Flash fan so I'd expect him to do the character right.

EliSnow

06-30-2009, 10:22 AM

You never know, they might have some super awesome story planned out for Barry too. After Hal came back it was a awhile before Sinestro Corps War took place, and everything between Rebirth and SCW was pretty insignificant in my opinion. I know Geoff is a huge Flash fan so I'd expect him to do the character right.

Maybe, but Flash Rebirth has not been anywhere near as good as GL Rebirth.

EliSnow

06-30-2009, 10:23 AM

Marvel.com has a prelude to Captain America: Reborn (http://marvel.com/reborn/)online right now for free.

Not much to it. Not really anything we haven't seen before. Only one plot point of any importance and that's a small one.

boobieman

07-01-2009, 06:08 AM

Well what is the small plot point? I saw the offer for the prelude but I don't want to register. I don't think anyone would care if you spoiled the prelude.

SEEYAYAYAYAYAYAYYAAYYSSYEYYAYYAAAA

EliSnow

07-01-2009, 06:13 AM

Well what is the small plot point? I saw the offer for the prelude but I don't want to register. I don't think anyone would care if you spoiled the prelude.

SEEYAYAYAYAYAYAYYAAYYSSYEYYAYYAAAA

Sin, the Red Skull's daughter, asks a H.A.M.M.E.R. agent "why do you think he's dead." The question gets to Norman Osborn who wonder if she meant the Red Skull or Captain America.

So Osborne is aware that there is a possibility that Steve Rogers is alive.

boobieman

07-01-2009, 06:29 AM

Ok cool thanks for the info. I hope the my local comic shop holds me a copy of Reborn today. Otherwise I will be burning the place down...I know it is going to be hot.

Thanks again.

SEEYAYAYAYAYYAAAA

EliSnow

07-02-2009, 08:57 AM

So what were people's thoughts about Reborn?

I liked it. Hitch is art was incredible again (although he does a little retcon with potrayal of Cap in WWII), they explained how Steve Rogers still lives (with some minor plotholes), and have set up Osborn's role in the story.

I think it's going to be pretty good.

Although again, I would have like to have seen Bucky remain as Cap for another year or so. That could still happen, but we'll see.

boobieman

07-03-2009, 01:34 PM

Have not picked up my copy yet. Hope my comic book lady saved me a copy.

SEEYAYAYYAAA

MadMatt

07-06-2009, 05:54 AM

So what were people's thoughts about Reborn?

I liked it. Hitch is art was incredible again (although he does a little retcon with potrayal of Cap in WWII), they explained how Steve Rogers still lives (with some minor plotholes), and have set up Osborn's role in the story.

I think it's going to be pretty good.

Although again, I would have like to have seen Bucky remain as Cap for another year or so. That could still happen, but we'll see.

Actually, I was kind of disappointed about how Cap is still alive. I thought they could have come up with something a little more "plausible."

Hopefully it will be a little more clear and less hokie as the story progresses.

EliSnow

04-16-2010, 10:42 AM

As probably every comic book reader knows, Steve Rogers is back from the dead. But after Seige, he won't be Captain America, as he's letting Bucky have the mantle.

However, Brubaker will be writing a series about Rogers called "Steve Rogers: Super Soldier" (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25776) that will feature Rogers as a covert agent. I think that he will also be in the Secret Avengers book.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1271438425.jpg

booster11373

04-16-2010, 10:59 AM

As probably every comic book reader knows, Steve Rogers is back from the dead. But after Seige, he won't be Captain America, as he's letting Bucky have the mantle.

However, Brubaker will be writing a series about Rogers called "Steve Rogers: Super Soldier" (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25776) that will feature Rogers as a covert agent. I think that he will also be in the Secret Avengers book.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1271438425.jpg

Not very covert with a big star on his chest is he?

boobieman

04-16-2010, 11:23 AM

I think this will be a temporary thing. Down the line they can do a Steve Rogers returns to become Captain America...and I am guessing when the movie comes out.

But will pick it up.

SSSSYEYYAAAA