Favorite old school ECW wrestler [Archive]

K.C.

03-06-2007, 07:21 PM

For me, I go Raven. From '95-'97 he was the backbone of ECW and he had the two best feuds in the history of the promotion (Raven vs. Sandman; Raven vs. Dreamer). The Raven character in Raven's prime was about as cool as is got, and its a shame WCW and WWE never gave him at a top spot in their companies. 
This message was edited by K.C. on 3-6-07 @ 11:22 PM

Team_Ramrod

03-06-2007, 07:36 PM

I wasn't big into ECW original... Mostly due to the lack of tv coverage. My favorite was Raven, mostly due to his gimmick with Kanyon a few years back where he was the rich kid with problems.I am also all for a guy who can get lypo and regain the weight faster than it came off.Quote the Ramrod Never more fuckers.

epo

03-06-2007, 07:56 PM

I voted Shane Douglas, "The Franchise" if for nothing but for that night in August of 1994 in Philadelphia.  Shane delivered one of the most "holy shit" moments in wrestling history:   "It's no question about it Too Cold Scorpio, you are one hell of a competitor and I will not be a champion that hides. I stand here, before God and my father in Heaven tonight, as I said I would be: World's Heavyweight champion. In the tradition of Lou Thesz; in the tradition of Jack Brisco; all of the Brisco Brothers; of Dory Funk Jr, of Terry Funk, the man who will never die; and the real “Nature Boy” Buddy Rogers upstairs tonight. From the Harley Races, to the Barry Windhams, to the... Ric Flairs, I accept this heavyweight title. Wait a second... wait a second, of Kerry Von Erich, of the fat man himself Dusty Rhodes... this is it tonight Dad, God that's beautiful...and Rick Steamboat... and they can all kiss my ass! Because, I am not the man who accepts the torch to be handed down to me from an organization that died R.I.P. seven years ago! "The Franchise" Shane Douglas is the man who ignites the new flame of the SPORT of professional wrestling. Tonight, before God and my father as witness, I declare... myself, “the Franchise,” as the new ECW heavyweight champion of the world! We have set out to change the face of professional wrestling. So, tonight, let the new era begin! The era of the sport of professional wrestling. The era of the “Franchise.” The era of the E-C-W!" In that singular moment he shit on the NWA title and launched ECW.

This message was edited by epo on 3-6-07 @ 11:59 PM

WintersEmbers

03-06-2007, 09:36 PM

that's pretty much the same reason I picked Taz. I always like Shane Douglas, but there was something about a small guy from Brooklyn that would LITTERALY suplex you out of the building while screaming Fuck The World the entire time. Taz was a bastard and I loved him for it.

Jaysin

03-06-2007, 09:56 PM

I voted sabu, not because he was the best spoken, best acting, or best bits....but because he is the craziest motherfucker ever to step into a ring, and for the "sport" of wrestling that is enough! homicidal, suicidal, genocidal baby! other than that i'd have to say dudley boyz, but only because i grew up with one half of em ;)

MrPink

03-07-2007, 03:50 AM

<img src="http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/s/sandman/17.jpg" border="0" width="476" height="625" />Partly because he's a bad motherfucker. Partly because a few people called me Sandman after watching me bust my head open with beer cans.

Don Stugots

03-07-2007, 03:53 AM

WintersEmbers wrote: that's pretty much the same reason I picked Taz. I always like Shane Douglas, but there was something about a small guy from Brooklyn that would LITTERALY suplex you out of the building while screaming Fuck The World the entire time. Taz was a bastard and I loved him for it.  TAZ was the man.  the whole company jobbed to him and anyone else that he could get his hands on was TAZ PLEXED into tomorrow.   Want to see his moves?  look at Kurt Angle, Shelton and other guys that use non traditional suplexs, i am looking right at you Scott Steiner.  Tommy Dreamer getting TAZPLEXed off the balcony and thru a table!  OH MY GOD!  but, since i was a bigger tag team mark than i am a TAZ mark, the dudleys were my pick.  the masters of  the three way dance!  these guys took the heel promo to a new level, insiting riots, making women and children cry (i was at the elk's lodge when they cut a promo praising RICK RUDE and a women with a kid didnt stand up, BUBBA RAY made them leave in tears).  they laid out everyone they were in the ring with the THREE D.   god, i miss those days.

Bob Impact

03-07-2007, 04:40 PM

Other: Foley is God.

JesterOfSadness

03-07-2007, 05:10 PM

I voted for Taz, but after thinking about it I realized that New Jack was another favorite of mine. As soon as Natural Born Killas(Killers..whatever) hits, all hell would break loose.

epo

03-07-2007, 05:19 PM

Bob Impact wrote: Other: Foley is God. Some people think that Mick's "Cane Dewey" promo one of the best ever.<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46GD13xAR-s">Link here.</a>

Bossanova

03-07-2007, 05:29 PM

Mine is def New Jack<img src="http://www.students.miami.edu/~mjohnso2/njfavepic.jpg" border="0" width="272" height="384" />

Tazz

03-07-2007, 05:30 PM

As if my screen name didn't answer this one....

foodcourtdruide

03-07-2007, 06:00 PM

Raven without a doubt. Cut amazing promos and was good in the ring. His promos are really what did it for me though. I'll never forget how the WWE (then WWF) completely misused him. I remember they let him be himself once on Sunday Night Heat or something, and he absolutely killed, then they turned him into quiet hardcore guy again. Bring back the Raven/Sandman feud.

K.C.

03-07-2007, 07:01 PM

Bob Impact wrote: Other: Foley is God. Cactus is a tough one to place. It's not like an Austin thing where he was only there very briefly...he was there a good year and a half. But at the same time, he never seemed like one of the core players...more like a special attraction. He did some awesome stuff for ECW, but I get the feeling that if he wasn't there, it would have been relatively the same whereas if you take some of the guys in the poll out of the question, it changes the promotion quite a bit.

K.C.

03-07-2007, 07:10 PM

Some other people who deserve some notice:-Public Enemy: Very important to the early days of old ECW. -New Jack: He's already been mentioned, but still...New Jack was the worst fucking wrestler I've ever seen but EVERYBODY talked about him because he was out of his mind. -Super Crazy & Tajiri: ECW had already lost a lot of their stars when these two came in, and I remember going nuts for their feud. Both those guys were awesome against each other. Throw in Little Guido for good measure, too.

Don Stugots

03-07-2007, 07:12 PM

no JT Smith or the BwO.  i know i had an argument with the meanie but i still loved the gimmick.

epo

03-07-2007, 08:01 PM

K.C. wrote: Bob Impact wrote: Other: Foley is God. Cactus is a tough one to place. It's not like an Austin thing where he was only there very briefly...he was there a good year and a half. But at the same time, he never seemed like one of the core players...more like a special attraction. He did some awesome stuff for ECW, but I get the feeling that if he wasn't there, it would have been relatively the same whereas if you take some of the guys in the poll out of the question, it changes the promotion quite a bit. Wasn't Foley (like Sabu) supplementing his income at the time by working a lost of dates in Japan.  When double-bookings came up...Foley generally made the smart play & took the cash.However his work in ECW was tremendous.  Like his hero, Terry Funk, he did a nice job of doing the job and putting guys over while proving how awesome he was.  "Let me put this pen behind my ear.  Oh wait it fell down because I don't have one.  I'm hardcore!  I'm hardcore!"

Bob Impact

03-08-2007, 04:39 AM

epo wrote: K.C. wrote: Bob Impact wrote: Other: Foley is God. Cactus is a tough one to place. It's not like an Austin thing where he was only there very briefly...he was there a good year and a half. But at the same time, he never seemed like one of the core players...more like a special attraction. He did some awesome stuff for ECW, but I get the feeling that if he wasn't there, it would have been relatively the same whereas if you take some of the guys in the poll out of the question, it changes the promotion quite a bit. Wasn't Foley (like Sabu) supplementing his income at the time by working a lost of dates in Japan. When double-bookings came up...Foley generally made the smart play & took the cash.However his work in ECW was tremendous. Like his hero, Terry Funk, he did a nice job of doing the job and putting guys over while proving how awesome he was. "Let me put this pen behind my ear. Oh wait it fell down because I don't have one. I'm hardcore! I'm hardcore!" Exactly, to me he put them on the map, I had NO idea who Sabu was until there was a huge Cactus Jack vs. Sabu match coming up.  I think he may not have been one of the core players, but he put that whole organization over.

ralphbxny

03-20-2007, 12:14 PM

TAZZ and SABU....tie for me.

Don Stugots

03-20-2007, 12:16 PM

ralphbxny wrote: TAZZ and SABU....tie for me. i dont know what was better, them fighting each other or when they teamed up with RVD as the New Triple Threat.

LOAF

03-20-2007, 12:31 PM

Bossanova wrote: Mine is def New Jack<img src="http://www.students.miami.edu/~mjohnso2/njfavepic.jpg" border="0" width="272" height="384" />New Jack gets my vote as well!!

ScottFromGA

03-20-2007, 01:31 PM

K.C. wrote: For me, I go Raven. From '95-'97 he was the backbone of ECW and he had the two best feuds in the history of the promotion (Raven vs. Sandman; Raven vs. Dreamer). The Raven character in Raven's prime was about as cool as is got, and its a shame WCW and WWE never gave him at a top spot in their companies. This message was edited by K.C. on 3-6-07 @ 11:22 PM New Jack....he has to be included.It was the best underground footage ever of that fat big mouth that said wrestling was fake, then they put him in a match with New Jack and he destroyed him.  Later on, found out he was 17. at least I heard thats how the story went.

j9479

03-21-2007, 05:04 PM

I picked Taz (with one Z), just because he gave the best promos in the company at the time.ÿ<div> </div><div>I remember watching the ECW show at like 2 A.M. on MSG and he would cut these awesome promos with the black towel over his head, close up shot.. just calling out the Rock, calling out Hogan, calling out his opponent and everyone else. That and the theme music made him awesome.ÿ</div>

Heather 8

03-21-2007, 05:15 PM

ScottFromGA wrote: It was the best underground footage ever of that fat big mouth that said wrestling was fake, then they put him in a match with New Jack and he destroyed him.  Later on, found out he was 17. at least I heard thats how the story went. Actually the kid, Erich Kulas (who has since passed away), was a wannabe with no formal training whatsoever; he and his father lied to Paul Heyman about his age and experience (or obvious lack thereof).The blading went horribly wrong; Kulas, who had obviously never been bladed before, flinched, and New Jack ended up severing two arteries in Kulas' forehead.  Although he allegedly showed some concern at the time (he was heard asking Kulas if he was OK), New Jack later said he had no remorse after learning about the Kulases' deception.

Tenbatsuzen

03-22-2007, 06:20 AM

I liked a few... The eliminators, although in retrospect had one of the most contrived finishers in wrestling (only next to the 619) had some spectacular interviews and brawls with da Gangstas.Three words: "DOC AND GORDY!" I had a really soft spot in my heart for JT Smith.  Especially with Joey Styles' reactions to him in the FBI.Rob Van Dam, in his no-respect gimmick, was awesome.

King Imp

03-22-2007, 08:52 AM

Tommy Dreamer was always my favorite, even though he was pretty much nothing more than a glorified jobber. All I ever wanted was to see him win the ECW title and they finally give it to him, only to take it away the same friggin night.

Don Stugots

03-22-2007, 08:57 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: I liked a few... The eliminators, although in retrospect had one of the most contrived finishers in wrestling (only next to the 619) had some spectacular interviews and brawls with da Gangstas.Three words: "DOC AND GORDY!" I had a really soft spot in my heart for JT Smith. Especially with Joey Styles' reactions to him in the FBI.Rob Van Dam, in his no-respect gimmick, was awesome.  Matty, tell people how cool JT Smith was/is?  If I do it, it would like braggin about one of my own.  go ahead, please?

epo

03-22-2007, 10:13 AM

King Imp wrote: Tommy Dreamer was always my favorite, even though he was pretty much nothing more than a glorified jobber. All I ever wanted was to see him win the ECW title and they finally give it to him, only to take it away the same friggin night.  Exactly.  That's the Dreamer character.  He's tough as nails with a huge heart, but he's not as talented as everyone else...hence he always loses the big match.

samnyc

03-22-2007, 10:31 AM

I hated Taz at the time bc I thought his promos were arrogant and a lot of his matched at Elks Lodge I looked forward to were booked at 3 minute squashes.  But looking back he had a great run.  I regret he never had the opportunity to get hte same gimmick over in wwe.

Knowledged_one

03-22-2007, 10:44 AM

although not a wrestler i miss Joel "So Big that it hurts her" GertnerAnd the Dudley Boyz got more heat as a tagteam then any team i have ever seen in my life.I was at the First PPV in 96? at the Bingo Hall and that is the other thing i miss, wrestling at the bingo hall.  I was tehre the night Kimona stripped on top of the building, or when Cactus Jack kicked a flaming chair in the crowd and created a stampeded.  Also saw Tommy Dreamer hung by a meat hook on the ceiling by RavenAnd the Sabu v. Taz feud was another good oneAnd Lita before the breast implants and whorishness when she was with Amish Road Kill and Danny DorringAlso what was the name of the tag team with Justin Credible and Lance Storm because they were bad ass also so much better then Rated RKO

King Imp

03-22-2007, 10:50 AM

Knowledged_one wrote: Also what was the name of the tag team with Justin Credible and Lance Storm because they were bad ass also so much better then Rated RKOThe Impact Players

Knowledged_one

03-22-2007, 10:53 AM

oh yeah another good crazy died before his time wrestlerBrian Fucking Pillman - this guy fucking ruledAlso miss the BWO - I stillhave my bwo shirt and the first Sandman shirt

jhawk57

03-25-2007, 05:57 PM

Big Taz fan but I voted other. I marked for Justin Credible back in the day.

epo

03-25-2007, 06:48 PM

And Lita before the breast implants and whorishness when she was with Amish Road Kill and Danny Dorring

You mean Miss Congeniality.

LilLibra

03-29-2007, 05:51 AM

Sabu.

SPeeDy_Freak

03-29-2007, 11:53 AM

Other

Mick Foley simply because there was nothing that he wouldn't do in a match.

MilkmanDann

03-29-2007, 01:27 PM

Was pretty much goofing on wrestling when ECW first came out, thought it was kids stuff. Buddy was really into it, we went to the first 3-4 ECW matches in Philly, was really impressed right off the bat.
By far though, Sabu. Never saw anyone do stuff like this guy did

El Mudo

03-30-2007, 01:21 PM

No love for Mikey Whipwreck?

I loved Mikey and his tag team with Cactus Jack (when they were feuding with PE and Cactus had to drag Mikey to the ring)

But even though Cactus wasn't there very long, I'll still pick him as my favorite. Foley always seemed to me just like a real "regular" guy. He wasn't very athletic, but he put his heart into everything he did, and I really respected him as a performer. There are guys with tons more athleticism and charisma and talent that didn't do half of what Cactus did with the hand he was dealt.

Speaking of the Eliminators, I just watched that match they had again with the Gangstas where they sandwiched New Jack between two tables, taped the tables together, and then destroyed him with Total Elimination....

here's the clip on youtube... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6PM0KLvOZ4)

Minge

03-30-2007, 02:02 PM

Justin Credible.

cougarjake13

03-30-2007, 03:48 PM

bam bam bigelow

El Mudo

03-31-2007, 04:49 PM

I was watching some of my old ECW DVD's today, and I forgot how great those matches Masato Tanaka and Mike Awesome had at HeatWave 98 and at Anarchy Rulz 99...those were WARS....

Don Stugots

03-31-2007, 04:50 PM

bam bam bigelow

I miss him.

cougarjake13

03-31-2007, 04:53 PM

I miss him.

he was a good dude, he lived about 20 miles from where i do now, im pretty sure i seen him in lowes in january, not many people have those tats on their head

AnnoyedGrunt

03-31-2007, 05:08 PM

I didn't get to watch much ECW until after they closed down and I like just about everyone on the list, I'd have to go with Tommy Dreamer. He's not the best wrestler or the best talker, but he came off as a genuinely good guy and the perfect underdog who usually got beaten down but still got enough licks in to be credible. One of my favourite ECW monets ever was when he did the arm spread and shouted out 'EC FUCKING W!" before hitting Raven with a DDT and finally beating him. And he doesn't even get to celebrate before RVD, Sabu and Jerry Lawler come in and kick the shit out of him (and most of the rest of the roster). Still gives me chills.

MrPerfect

03-31-2007, 06:06 PM

RVD. The whole f'n show. His general all-around greasiness personified ECW. When he was there, I thought he was the best there was between WWF, WCW, and ECW.

El Mudo

04-01-2007, 02:23 PM

Some love for the Big Salbowski

http://www.bsww.de/wrestler/bios/sale12.jpg

Tenbatsuzen

04-01-2007, 02:50 PM

Hearing Natural Born Killaz, Joey Styles go into hyper-mode, and Kronus laughing like a manaic takes me back.

hard to believe that was over a decade ago.

newport king

04-14-2007, 10:26 AM

the masato tanaka/mike awesome matches were always really really good.

and i don't think steve corino got alot of respect but he always put on a great match and wore a crimson mask.

El Mudo

04-14-2007, 10:53 AM

Big Sal was also responsible for the greatest chant at any wrestling event, ever.

WHERE'S MY PIZZA??

SAL E. ATE IT!!

WHERE'S MY PIZZA??

SAL E. ATE IT!!

MilkmanDann

04-15-2007, 06:35 PM

If McMahon had any intelligence left post-coke/steroids/whatever ... Sabu and RVD would make the best tag team champs in our current time. Work really well together. Then again I'm rooting for 2 guys from the Bingo hall in Philly.

OH...

Homicidal
Genocidal
Suicidal

S A B U

realmenhatelife

04-15-2007, 08:12 PM

the tajiri/super crazy series was great because, at a time when raw and nitro were doing 15 minute long promos, it went on completely without dialogue and just awesome wrestling from two guys most people hadnt heard of.

jerry lynn deserves a mention for going from being a total bore to writing 'die' on his chest in steve corino's blood.

steve corino, the old school hero, was the best heel they put out.

joel gertner doesnt fucking wrestle but i miss him

spike dudley shouldve gotten to cut 'shoot' promos more often, because he was really great out of character.

but if i only get to vote once its for the SUICIDAL, HOMICIDAL, GENOCIDAL SABUUU!

oh my god!

cougarjake13

04-16-2007, 03:54 AM

i loved the old cm punk
this new version sucks balls

Skarhead

04-19-2007, 02:31 PM

Im going way back to early ECW and saying Eddie Gilbert

Awesome Man

04-26-2007, 08:25 AM

for all those who voted new jack

i only have 2 words for ya

Mass Transit

anyways, i voted Sandman...his entrance alone made him badass, even tho he wasnt the best "ring guy" his presence made it work. i was at a CZW show in RI about 6 years ago in this tiny club with a ceiling that was so low the guys couldnt use about 1foot of the ring on one side. Sandman was on the card facing some nobody, so the music hits and Sandman starts walking through the crowd (his usual 5 min routine)...so finally he walks over to where me and my friends were standing, he walked right up to me arms length away lifted his beer can up, and poured beer all over me then just stared at me with that glazed over "im so fucking drunk i dont care" look. it was crazy...then he proceeded to stumble into the ring and "wrestle" completely smashed for the next 10 minutes...he even bumped his head on the low ceiling...twice. how can you not love a guy like that